"Signal for NATO": data on tests of the T-14 Armata tank in the SAR are discussed in the foreign press

A statement by the head of the Russian Ministry of Industry and Trade, Denis Manturov, that the latest Tanks T-14 "Armata" were tested in combat conditions in Syria. Recall that Manturov, reporting on such “Syrian tests” of “Armata”, added that the tests will form the final appearance of the new generation tank.

So, in the Greek press they consider the news from Manturov about the tests of the T-14 Armata tank in Syria "a great surprise for the West and Turkey."

Browser Andreas Muntsurulias writes that adding intrigue to the current lack of images of “Almaty” in Syria, as well as the lack of data as to whether these tanks left the territory of the ATS or still remain there.

The Greek publication Pentapostagma believes that Russia, by announcing the tests of the T-14 Armata in Syria, "sends a signal to NATO and specifically to the Turkish president so that he does not have illusions about the great Mediterranean war."

A few comments from users of the mentioned Greek media:

This is all Russian propaganda. There is no way to use it (the tank) there without being seen by anyone. This, most likely, only portends its use, being a warning to NATO.

We could order several such armored vehicles, but our authorities will block this, without giving such an opportunity.

Denis Manturov's message is being discussed in the Indian press. Indian media reports on the application for testing the T-14 Armata in Syria receive tens of thousands of retweets on social networks and diverge on blogs.

The Thai press reported on the tests of the T-14 Armata in the Syrian Arab Republic, which also causes considerable interest among military experts and ordinary users in Southeast Asia.

Comments

[Pereira]

It was a test, it wasn’t. But there is noise. The world remembered about Armata.
And this is the only achievement in recent years.

[Thrifty]

Pereira was reminded of the world, and it is clear that with some goals, possibly financial, that we can create such a super tank.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Thrifty

Pereira was reminded of the world, and it is clear that with some goals, possibly financial, that we can create such a super tank.

USSR could! RF, no.

[A009]

That is, it is not there, I understand you correctly?

[private person]

Yeah, another "Duck" to distract from the problems with the coronavirus. To test the "Armata" in Syria and no one saw it or filmed it? Then the patrol drove into the mud, filmed and showed a video. And then the T-14 and no one saw how they brought it and where. Video in the studio or is there nothing to be proud of? The T-14 did not show outstanding results, the barmaley would certainly have shown the "shaitanmashina."

[st25310]

Fake, of course, but beautiful!

[Angelo Provolone]

A girl with a bare chest, rubbing booty on a tank and two obscure subjects ... What is it?

[Black Colonel]

And how many of their "white helmets" did Nagor give ?! And the foreign people were eating it, already smiling. And it was or was not - let the striped-eared and their henchmen have a head splitting.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: private person

Video to the studio or is there nothing to be proud of?

Why do you need to show something if you have nothing more to be proud of?

[Piramidon]

Quote: private person

to distract from problems with the coronovirus

Are you few articles on the Internet and messages on the box about this virus? From each iron, I can only hear about it.

Studio video

In order for your requirement to be fulfilled, you need to stamp your foot and bump with your fist.

[private person]

Do you have few articles on the internet about this virus?

So about this I say people are already tired of everything about the virus and the virus, but here such a topic. And all together URA !!!

[NIKN]

Quote: Piramidon

From each iron, I can only hear about it.

I don’t know about irons, but refrigerators are aware of the coronovirus on the fact of their contents.

[Piramidon]

Quote: private person

as in LDNR so you yelled together .... where is the evidence that the batteries on the phones are dead

Do not confuse sour with soft. There they poured fakes about the presence of a large army of hundreds on hundreds of tanks, which is impossible not to see, but here we are talking about tests of one or two vehicles, which, on the contrary, tried not to shine.

[private person]

Do not confuse sour with soft.


Everything is clear to you, even the count on the head of the chesha. Manturov said and it’s true, but to show.

[gurzuf]

Everyone understood what he wanted.

[Res_Ullus]

Number on the head SCRATCH ??? Mmmmmm, how do you imagine this, my friend?

[Piramidon]

Quote: private person

you at least count on the head of the cheshi

The count will not help you either. To those like you, the main thing is that the MO before you, from some sort of hangover, is accountable for all its actions, provides reports on testing programs with video confirmations. Who are you to report to you? Shorten your constant clatter with feet and knocking with handles.

[ciujoilu]

Reading your posts, I recall the words of Puchkov

[datura23]

and when they show you what you say - are you lying? - is it made of cardboard?

[Zabvo]

Among the fakes (of which there were many), were there real photos of our army there, or have you been believing in miners for 6 years who are capable of destroying the regular army in boilers on an ongoing basis?

[Piramidon]

Quote: ZABVO

there were real photos of our army there. Do you believe in miners for 6 years who can destroy the regular army in boilers on an ongoing basis?

I have never seen such photos with real evidence. If svidomye and tried to upload photos, allegedly with our army on / on, then all of them after a while were exposed, like fake. Do you believe them for 6 years?

[Zabvo]

Not all of them were exposed, the same BTR82A destroyed, T-72B3, KamAZ-Shot, etc. and often our own inexperience gave evidence.

[Piramidon]

Quote: ZABVO

Not all of them were exposed, the same BTR82A destroyed, T-72B3, KamAZ-Shot, etc.

So what? Even if these are genuine, proven photos of individual copies of Russian equipment (there is the possibility of smuggling in pieces by smuggling), does this mean that the RUSSIAN ARMY invaded / to Ukraine? And if you post a photo with the equipment and weapons of the Armed Forces, then it is quite possible to write about such an invasion.

[Zabvo]

She (the RF Armed Forces) did not invade, only very professionally and precisely + very limited contingent solved the issue of LDNR.

[Piramidon]

Quote: ZABVO

She (RF Armed Forces) did not intrude

But why then are your not ambiguous hints here?

Not all of them were exposed, the same BTR82A destroyed, T-72B3, KamAZ-Shot, etc. moreover, our own and inexperience gave evidence.

Proofs of what, ours have given? I wrote about the fake "invasion" of the RF AF into / into Ukraine, and you began to object to me in the sense that it was not a fake. I took your comments that way.

[Zabvo]

I don’t give hints and I’m directly talking about what happened.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: ZABVO

She (the RF Armed Forces) did not invade, only very professionally and precisely + very limited contingent solved the issue of LDNR.

I haven’t decided yet.
But he will definitely decide.
You will cry.

[Zabvo]

Why should I cry?

[Vladimirsky]

I agree, precisely inflicted powerful artillery attacks on the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And on the eve of Givi, from the only Nona K, he was firing and another T-12 without an aim - they were pointing along the barrel .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWA7QawpNwU
and then suddenly bam. and there is no APU brigade ... https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = oWHeo-30fN0

[Bad_gr]

Quote: ZABVO

She (RF Armed Forces) did not invade, only extremely professionally and precisely + very limited contingent

DNR population
• Evaluation (2020) - 2 [257] people.
LPR People
• Assessment (2016) - 1497170 people.
Total 3 people (with more than). But there are no men, did you have to call the Russian Army?

[atalef]

Quote: Piramidon

So what? Even if these are genuine, proven photos of individual copies of Russian technology (there is the possibility of smuggling in pieces by smuggling)

is that shrimp from Belarus to be smuggled 7
And the miners are serviced by this equipment, and of course the miners are seated.
After the slaughter, they studied it on electives, on the Internet.

Quote: Piramidon

does it mean that the RUSSIAN ARMY invaded / to Ukraine?

All, of course, not all. No one claimed that all.

[boris epstein]

The burned-out Leoperd-2A4 is still standing in Mayorsk. Ukraine buys from the Czech Republic wheeled self-propelled guns "Dana". Delivery goes along the Danube through the Black Sea and Odessa. Purchased from Poland BMP-1 (160 vehicles) and MiG-29 fighters. The United States has patrol boats, anti-tank missile systems, sniper rifles, night vision devices, counter-battery systems, and drones in Israel and Turkey. American soldiers have been in the Armed Forces since 2014. Back in June 2014, a DNR sniper was killed in the Sea of ​​Azov, three US colonels, and a Kharkov partisan detachment named after Ilya Grigorievich Starinov near Izyum blew up a command post of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - a major and a US colonel were killed, General Key Randy Allen was seriously wounded and evacuated to the United States, where he successfully threw hooves. And now American instructors at the Yavoriv training ground are teaching the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and in Vinnitsa and Severodonetsk, the regiment of special operations of Ukraine. About T-72B3. We bought not tanks, but kits for their modernization. And tanks (including T-72), armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, MT-LB, self-propelled guns "Carnations", "Akatsii", artillery, mortars, small arms were from 46 tank division, stationed Artyomovsk-Trehizbenka, 36 motorized rifle division (Luhansk-Kommunarsk) and BHVT Ilovaisk. DPR T-64 tanks received from the 254 motorized rifle division (Artemovsk)

[1976AG]

Miners are adult men who at one time also served in the army and have experience in handling weapons, both small arms and tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. Plus they have life experience, more brains. The regular army of Ukraine, for the most part, has jerks who were sitting at a school desk yesterday. So it’s surprising that the miners kicked their ass ???

[Zabvo]

Adult men on the one hand and the regular army on the other (albeit in a low combat readiness), who will do better in military affairs ... And the example in something of a mirror situation in Chechnya says a lot about adult men and the regular army. This is if on the fingers to explain the obvious things.

[Piramidon]

Quote: ZABVO

Adult men, on the one hand, and the regular army, on the other (albeit in low combat readiness), who will do better in military affairs

So you seriously think that there is a full-scale invasion of the RF Armed Forces in / in Ukraine? Or are you repeating the nonsense of Svidomo media here? A few vacation instructors are enough to unite and "build" several thousand reservists. Take off the saucepan and think (if there is anything under the saucepan than you might think)

[Zabvo]

Oh God, you were there in 14g. especially "Ilovaisk", I will give 100% no and you have never been anywhere in general, as well as have little understanding of war. I didn’t poke you, I told you only facts and nothing more, that yes there was a case, but they burned a little (due to lack of experience) and that's it, but I already have to put a saucepan on my head, maybe someone can take off the “blind hat” need for a long time. When not a single militia is able to spread rot on the siloviki boiler after boiler, it is simply not realistic as the sunrise is always in the East.

[1976AG]

I’ll clarify ... adult men who have served in the regular army, are able to handle weapons and protect their land.

[Zabvo]

And on the other hand, the same uncles, only a little smarter in military terms and that’s all, they would have won if not for our army. I xs, how else to explain, apparently not real, as well as the fact that our Armed Forces cleaned the ATS from the damp (not the SAA, namely our guys).

[atalef]

Quote: 1976AG

Miners are adult men who at one time also served in the army and have experience in handling weapons, both small arms and tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.

well. yes they wrote - like the Afghans.
nothing. that it should be 50 year old men 7
with beer bellies and phenomenal memory - how else to explain 7
30 years have passed, and they from the face and immediately - to the artillery, city, tanks, signalmen. procurers. specialists in armaments, military doctors, reconnaissance, electronic warfare, downed and rallied units, combat command and cooperation, staff and operatives. etc. etc. Why the heck is asked military schools to graduate and academies. if this is how a regular army got out of the face and immediately into the boiler.

what talented people.

[1976AG]

They are talented, it’s their genetics that has been around since they beat the fascists in the Great Patriotic War. And then the new fascists came and immediately remembered everything. And once again, poke around even get tighter.

[Zabvo]

Are you generally adequate, did you, in principle, serve in the army? Who will "get"?, They write to you from the Russian Federation, moreover, one of them was a participant in those battles as part of the militia.

[Vadim Golubkov]

They taught well in the USSR and tactics of combat in exercises and field exits, now they put me in the BRDM-2 "Competition", and I still remember which levers and buttons to press to prepare the car and ATGM for battle, and manually, too, but passed for 28 years, I generally keep quiet about the machine gun, I think there are quite a few of them who served in the army in their specialties, not to mention officers.

[Vadim Golubkov]

A civil war is going on in Ukraine, Russian volunteers are fighting both on the side of Kiev and on the side of the Donbass, Americans, Poles, Georgians and others. The USA supports Kiev, Russia Donbass, nothing surprising. Only during the exchange of prisoners that there are no Russian soldiers and Russians, they change the Ukrainian for the Ukrainian, maybe simply because there are not so many volunteers, but the local are fighting.

[Zabvo]

Now the "north wind" is no longer needed for combat missions, remember the years 14-15. ours were captured there, but extremely rarely. Why rarely, because ours were able to use the army very skillfully then, BTG worked at the highest level.

[Evil Booth]

The best trolongo 2020 is to send Chchub urgently to the trenches. it’s not even a question of whose Crimea it’s finally a troll

[Zabvo]

I need to shift the photo to convince myself what and how it was? Or to convince you, if you take your tender foothold where it can fly to it 5,45 and look how you say what you say, wake up, well, purely challenge, unloading and armor will be given on site.

[Evil Booth]

commercials torment you. whose Crimea?

[d1975]

Yes, is it really bad that the boilers appeared, but it’s a pity that so little Mariupol ukropovsky remained (((((((((((Politics is not always honest, especially our mother came across such mothers of Russia, now don’t whine!

[A009]

You can repost here at least one photo of our Army in the Donbas. Of which, in your words, there were not a few.

[Zabvo]

And I can immediately go to the zone, for mercenaries (well, as we like). The fact that the Russian Federation helped it right is difficult for me to realize our guys in those battles, this is not respect for them.

[Alex bergman]

I believe! And many Russians too !!! Is there evidence to the contrary ??? !!!

[A009]

That is, to prove the absence? you, as I understand it, skipped logic at school? How to prove the absence? some nonsense. Many believe in spirits. And there is no evidence either. And it can’t be. And you can always demand to prove that they are not. Logical impossibility and complete stupidity

[Reklastik]

But what kind of "regular army", "the strongest on the continent", I beg you ...

[Zabvo]

Ok, our SPN was whose, or the same nightmare miners for several days "control" insolently came with VSS and PBS-at 7,62 ... It is clear that they are fired, it is clear that they are "devils" done because the service involves death But not disclosure.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: ZABVO

Do you believe in miners for 6 years who are capable of destroying a regular army in boilers on an ongoing basis?

And what is the regular army of Ukraine ?:
draftees + Nazis + officers in officer positions + instructors from the USA.
On the other hand:
draftees + already served 2g. in the army (to protect his family and home) + officers in officer posts + instructors (including from Russia).
Old technology is full on both sides, and new (and all kinds of Javelins) are thrown to Ukraine from Europe, and the LPR and DPR from Russia.
A fundamental difference in motivation: some protect their home and families,
and others do not even know how to formulate.

[atalef]

Quote: Piramidon

and here we are talking about testing one or two cars, which, on the contrary, tried not to shine

Tests in combat conditions - tried not to shine 7
What is it like ?
Some kind of stealth invisibility.
or a girl. and toli vision?

[fyvaprold]

Quote: private person

Yeah, another "Duck" to distract from the problems with the coronavirus

Yeah, and the coronavirus is a distraction of attention from amendments to the Constitution, amendments to the Constitution, to disguise "zeroing", "zeroing", to conceal the "All-Russian Holodomor" due to sanctions and the "collapsed economy", but the "Holodomor" with the economy, to disguise the Anunnaki invasion from the planet Nibiru. A multi-port, however! Keep up the good work.

[Olgovich]

Quote: private person

To experience "Armata" in Syria and this is no one not seen and not filmed?

Let me remind you that the goal of the tests isnot at allfor someone to "see or take off".

At the same time, during the tests all measures are taken so that no one sees and removes.

[private person]

Let me remind you that the goal of testing is not at all

And in what? Drive a little sand around the air base and stand under the scorching sun? That's just interesting.

[Piramidon]

Quote: private person

And what? Drive a little sand around the air base and stand under the scorching sun?

No, only to be filmed and shown at the request of some "private person". And the technology testing program is already the tenth thing.

[Nikolaevich I]

It is not excluded that after a while a refutation of "Manturov's statement" will appear! What I have already hinted at in the commentary to the previous article about the "tests in Syria ,, Armata" ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Olgovich

At the same time, during the tests all measures are taken so that no one sees and removes.

the cameras of the satellites are sealed, eyewitnesses are gouged out and their tongue is cut off, cell phones are removed from everyone?

The regime of complete secrecy is still somehow - difficult, but possible - to be ensured even in Russia, but certainly not in Syria. where is the shaped courtyard.
how can a tank be tested in combat conditions (and Manturov stated:

Yes, they were in Syria. Tanks were sent to this country in order to take into account all the nuances of their use in combat conditions.

), so that no one noticed him? Do you associate Syria with the far side of the moon?

[Shooter22]

Good day! And you google the Internet about the first meeting in 1982 of T-72 and M1 Abrams on the sands of South Lebanon. Then, too, no one knew anything about the "Abrams", but it was there that they took their first fight. And Americans still deny this fact. Not everything is always so obvious. I do not argue that there are a lot of fakes nowadays, but that is why you are here on the site and experts, in order to separate the obvious from the incredible.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Shooter22

And you google the Internet about the first meeting in 1982 of the T-72 and the M1 "Abrams" on the sands of South Lebanon. Then, too, no one knew anything about the "Abrams", but it was there that they took their first fight. And Americans still deny this fact.

There is a lot of false information on the Internet. And the Lebanese war is full of fakes. Essays and odes were written about the battles of T-72 and Merkav (naturally, each side writes about hundreds of burned enemy tanks without losses with its own), although these tanks did not meet in Lebanon in battle

I also read the story you quoted, but I have never met any confirmation of it. Not from this, nor from that, nor from the third party

[atalef]

Quote: Shooter22

Good day! And you google the Internet about the first meeting in 1982 of the T-72 and the M1 "Abrams" on the sands of South Lebanon

W. interesting. Abrams in the sand?
First find the sands in southern Lebanon. and then let's move on to the question, and there Abrams was there

Quote: Shooter22

Not everything and not always so obvious. I don’t argue, there are a lot of fakes now,

And what you wrote is one of them

[Shooter22]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Shooter22

Good day! And you google the Internet about the first meeting in 1982 of the T-72 and the M1 "Abrams" on the sands of South Lebanon

W. interesting. Abrams in the sand?
First find the sands in southern Lebanon. and then let's move on to the question, and there Abrams was there

Quote: Shooter22

Not everything and not always so obvious. I don’t argue, there are a lot of fakes now,

And what you wrote is one of them

Firstly, atalef, the word "you" in Russian is written with a capital letter, this is both grammar and a sign of politeness.
Secondly, do not cling to the words on the tanks in southern Lebanon, not only the Israelis moved. Have you been there yourself? The mountainous-desert area is there, the rest is a particular artistic invention of the author. (It's a pity the terrain photo does not load).
Thirdly. At one time, in our garrison, an officer (deputy head of a tank regiment) returned from a Middle Eastern business trip with a star of a Hero of the Soviet Union. In short, from a fortified position alone (the Syrian guys gave the drape), he burned several Israeli tanks in one battle. This was not written in the newspapers, including the Israeli ones, but the fact is a stubborn thing. And nobody was going to prove anything to anyone. You may or may not believe in my previous comment - this is exclusively your right. Only from this, no one is cold and not hot (especially to me). Have you caught the thought?
And you couldn’t even know that there was something American and dokel in 1982 in South Lebanon, unless, of course, Yitzhak Navon or Ariel Sharon personally told you about this.

[atalef]

Quote: Shooter22

It’s not just the Israelites who moved to Lebanon. Have you been there yourself?

I - yes, and you?

Quote: Shooter22

an officer (deputy tank regiment) returned from a Middle Eastern business trip with a star of a Hero of the Soviet Union. In short, then from a fortified position alone (the Syrian guys gave a drape), he burned several Israeli tanks in one battle

Storyteller.

[Shooter22]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Shooter22

It’s not just the Israelites who moved to Lebanon. Have you been there yourself?

I - yes, and you?

Quote: Shooter22

an officer (deputy tank regiment) returned from a Middle Eastern business trip with a star of a Hero of the Soviet Union. In short, then from a fortified position alone (the Syrian guys gave a drape), he burned several Israeli tanks in one battle

Storyteller.

Again, no respect. "I -, yes, and you? "Well, well, then it will be mutual. So I don't know you, but in general I don't want to know. But I listened to this Hero of the Soviet Union personally in the House of Officers. So, who is the storyteller - a big question! you grovel with details - do not respect yourself.

[atalef]

Quote: Shooter22

I don’t know you, but in general I don’t want to know. But this Hero of the Soviet Union listened personally in the House of Officers.

storyteller.

Quote: Shooter22

So who is the storyteller here - a big question!

Of course, you.

Quote: Shooter22

And in front of you with the details of crucifying - do not respect yourself.

here on the site. warrior and witnesses warrior - like you --- like dogs not cut.

[Shooter22]

Learn the art of polemics from a professor, an ignoramus and a hamlo.

[codetalker]

May I ask you what are the problems with coronovirus? And what is the reason to distract from them, if the same authorities and the media constantly attract attention to them ...

[Jean-paul marat]

For the most part, the world does not know anything about such abuses, and few people care about it.

[1976AG]

And I, by and large, absolutely do not care about the opinion of the world on this fact

[A009]

You don’t care so much that you wanted to write about it!))

[Roman123567]

But there is noise. The world remembered about Armata.
And this is the only achievement in recent years.

And this is the only purpose for which this statement was made ..

[svp67]

Quote: Pereira

But there is noise.

Take it cooler - INTRIGA

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Pereira

It was a test, it wasn’t. But there is noise.

This is already a plus for us, or in Plus +
Moreover, in fact, there are several important results.
1. Armata is and will be. Whatever and whoever says ...
2. The General Staff has excellent plans for operations ... including operations for the pilot operation of new weapons.
3. Konrrazvedka knows the matter. A very encouraging fact. Especially for spiteful mothers and homeowners ...
4. In Syria, everything is quite strong. Otherwise, we would not have decided on such a step.
5. The civilian minister in the course of events tankers. The fact itself is encouraging, but over time the tank crews will clarify ... I don’t have full confidence in this point.

Quote: Pereira

The world remembered about Armata.
And this is the only achievement in recent years.

Since the Prophetic Oleg?
Over the past 30 years ...?
Or after 2014?
Or in conditions of self-isolation?

[atalef]

Quote: Sergey S.

1. Armata is and will be

eat and will eat

Quote: Sergey S.

The General Staff is well planning operations ....

excellent - excellent from what?

Quote: Sergey S.

Konrrazvedka knows the matter. Very encouraging fact

Tyneus agentus?

Quote: Sergey S.

In Syria, everything is quite strong. Otherwise, we would not have decided on such a step.

decided on what?

Quote: Sergey S.

Civil Minister in the course of events tankers. The fact itself is encouraging, but over time the tank crews will clarify ... I don’t have full confidence in this point.

ministers don't lie

Quote: Sergey S.

Or in conditions of self-isolation?

more precisely, self-PR.

[fn34440]

DO NOT SELL ANYONE. They will copy and MAKE analogues.
As with the S-300, delivered to Greece in 1996, even Israel is training its F-35 flyers there.

[atalef]

Quote: Pereira

It was a test, it wasn’t. But there is noise

honestly, periodically watching enemy news channels, as it did not notice the hype about this, from the word in general.
Strange, what signal? To whom the signal?
Armata has not yet been adopted. release - units.
But this prodigy already managed to send a signal to the whole NATO. Turkey and drive the type into a panic.

[Thrifty]

Manturov poured binzin into the fire, I wonder if he was "asked" to make such a statement, or was it his private initiative in order to knock out the contract and finance the production of a large batch of T14? ?? He played, so to speak, the role of a lobbyist for the Manturov industry. ..

[Alekseev]

Quote: Thrifty

his private initiative in order to knock out the contract and financing the production of a large batch of T14?

Baby talk ... Who is it Manturov

Quote: Thrifty

poured binzin into the fire

To myself?
Or

Quote: Thrifty

financing the production of a large batch of T14?

depends on the opinion of low-skilled sofa Internet experts?
Or are those who it really depends on (the president, first of all, the Moscow region) receive information from Manturov?
So were the T-14 tanks in the SAR or not? Of course, you can’t say for sure.
The Minister of Industry, by the way, did not provide details in his statement. How were the combat tests conducted and what tests? The engine and transmission can be tested without any Syria, sending cars there for such tests does not make sense.
But at night, for example, to test the capabilities of computer aiming and surveillance devices when firing at real targets with all types of ammunition, not on the directing track of the landfill, but in a real battle, where dust, fires and real resistance, even from great distances, the means of communication modern management, etc., is probably possible. It is possible to check in practice, such as loading ammunition in the course of hostilities, and not in the box of the park. Incidentally, this is an important tactical problem in modern conditions; tank ammunition today is not at all the same as in the years of the Second World War. A box with an o / f shot weighs in the region of 60 kg, and there are 40 of them. It’s difficult to deliver to the front line, it’s hard to carry with your hands, you can take tanks to the rear area to replenish the ammunition, but this unmasks, takes time, etc. Or maybe MZ Armat also needs TZM?
So there is something to check. Why not see it? And what, all the battles in Syria were shot as a series?
Remember how much screeching there was after the shots about the use of Turkish UAVs.
Everything, they say, was gone, everything was gone !!! But it turned out that even having a video (and not always from there, either) it is impossible to draw correct conclusions about the course of hostilities as a whole, which was confirmed by later events.

[atalef]

Quote: Alekseev

But to test, for example, at night the capabilities of computer devices for aiming and observing when firing at real targets with all types of ammunition, not on the landfill, but in a real battle

what the fuck in Syria is a real fight?

Quote: Alekseev

but in a real battle where dust, fires and real opposition

describe in a couple of lines. what do you mean ?

Quote: Alekseev

A box with an o / f shot weighs in the region of 60 kg, and there are 40 of them. It’s difficult to deliver to the front line, it’s hard to carry with your hands, you can take tanks to the rear area to replenish the ammunition, but this unmasks, takes time, etc. Or maybe MZ Armat also needs TZM?

expert level - God

Quote: Alekseev

So there is something to check. Why not see? And what, all the battles in Syria were shot as a series?

because there wasn’t.

Quote: Alekseev

which was confirmed by later events.

recent events have shown one thing.
The Turks control the idlib, the bandits are also there, and no major changes have occurred.

[Yrec]

Let the Arabs brothers post pictures or vidos, otherwise we will all be in words, as in organs. Something I recently stopped believing a word.

[nikon7717]

And why do you need confirmation from the Arabs? When Mr. with a test tube in the UN Security Council tells you that this is chemical weapons and you conditionally believed him. Moreover, it was a blatant lie, and after that tens of thousands of innocent people died. So democracy, dear, they told you in the media, an official, it means so. You will disassemble the truth or not in 10 years. Today it is true. Especially considering that our truth and it with fists.

[atalef]

Quote: nikon7717

And why do you need confirmation from the Arabs?

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Quote: nikon7717

When you are told by Mr with a test tube in the UN Security Council that this is chemical weapons and you conditionally believed him

This also applies to the words of Manturov

Quote: nikon7717

So democracy, dear, they told you in the media, an officialmeans so

what are you talking about

Quote: nikon7717

Especially considering that our truth and it with fists.

their spies and our scouts.

[nikon7717]

Consider that those who filmed are no longer with us ... Therefore, delivery of the footage is not possible.

[Varaga]

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Will manage. It is not a great honor to prove something to someone. Believe it or not. And it is enough for us that we know this.

[Pivot]

And what is there in Syria that is not at landfills in Russia? Is that halal meat?

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Pivot

And what is there in Syria that is not at landfills in Russia? Is that halal meat?

Intense heat, wind with sand, and when entering into war zones, shelling from various projections and different weapons. Somewhere like that ...

[evgenii67]

Intense heat, wind with sand

we can agree with this.

Quote: Starover_Z

and when entering into combat zones, shelling from various projections and different weapons.

but this is unlikely, who will take such a risk?

[bukhach]

Yeah, no matter how it turns out, well, it's out of harm's way .. Listen, well, you can't do it like that, a tank is being tested or a parquet jeep ?! If the "Armata" was there on trial, they had to check it in battle under fire, in my amateurish opinion, otherwise what kind of weapon is it that is afraid of battle!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Buhach

in my amateurish opinion

you noticed that correctly)
Do you know that equipment is being bombarded? They shoot at armor samples, finished tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, armored vehicles, shell armored vehicles of aircraft and helicopters?
And how did we manage this for so many years as training grounds when Syria was not there? (this is a test for logic)

[Varaga]

And how did we manage this for so many years as training grounds when Syria was not there? (this is a test for logic)

And what did ours do in Korea, Vietnam, Angola, Afghanistan?! .. In the Caucasus (Ka-50), in the end?! ..
You yourself have successfully failed your "logic test". Before you teach someone, you yourself would be well prepared.

[Essex62]

Quote: Waraga

And what did ours do in Korea, Vietnam, Angola, Afghanistan?! .. In the Caucasus (Ka-50), in the end?! ..

In all these places except the last, the USSR defended the socialist idea. So far, the leadership of the country has been since the early, Stalinist and wartime. The right guide.
Political tasks were solved. Running-in equipment and L / C is not the last thing, but still in second place. If the warriors, at their discretion, made decisions by the troops and circled the new wunderwaffles, the fight would go all over the planet, rather than locally.

[Varaga]

Officially - "defended the socialist idea." In fact, he tested new types of weapons at the best "testing ground" - war.

[Essex62]

Do you seriously think that I.V. Stalin sent a contingent of troops to Korea with the sole aim of launching new MIGs? The country is only from the ruins of the east. Was the prospect of clashing with the collective West again, with the economically underdeveloped allies, did it scare him full-blown?
The answer is simple - as a true communist, he was obliged to support national movements, which realized and most importantly found the strength and courage to destroy the bourgeois burials in another point on the planet. The same and Brezhnev L.I. The priority is political tasks, or rather the main task is the elimination of capitalism on the planet, the running-in of weapons - by itself.

[Varaga]

Yes, I seriously think that participation in any conflict is not only geopolitics.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: evgenii67

and when entering into combat zones, shelling from various projections and different weapons.
but this is unlikely, who will take such a risk?

And right ... why should a cat grease a cat with butter? They shine already!

[Pivot]

Drive these tanks into Kalmykia, there is no less sand and heat and fire it as you want.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Starover_Z

Intense heat, wind with sand

did you study our vast geography? Russia is so great that we have deserts, permafrost, and coastal areas.

Quote: Starover_Z

firing from various projections and different weapons

Is this not possible in the landfill? Have the Russian military taken away weapons?
And I’ll tell you a terrible secret: when testing military equipment that has a reservation, it is mandatory to test with shelling. In order to shoot, you do not need to go to Syria.

[atalef]

Quote: Starover_Z

Intense heat, wind with sand,

where is 7 now?
Now the weather is absolutely comfortable.
On average +20.
A little rain periodically.
Neither caves of birr nor heat have been observed for the last 4 months.
Yes, and from where?
Spring is with us.

Quote: Starover_Z

and when entering into combat zones, shelling from various projections and different weapons.

and of course the bandits were so busy. that --- they could fire. and take a picture

[Lopatov]

Quote: Pivot

And what is there in Syria that is not at landfills in Russia?

Public response.

[Pivot]

And most importantly, the discussion by experts of the bash

[atalef]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Pivot

And what is there in Syria that is not at landfills in Russia?

Public response.

Is he there?
If only in Russia.
All the rest are exclusively occupied by the crown.

[Keeping]

The parade on Red Square was canceled and the opportunity appeared to illuminate the five available samples elsewhere ...

[tagil]

The main thing is that this tank is and is in metal, unlike others. Therefore, such a howl costs like from a Baskervilian dog in the swamps.

[igorra]

Someone needed to stick a stick in an adder?

[awdrgy]

It's just that those who tried to take off "Armata" got a little frustrated)

[APASUS]

It looks like a competent PR, once again reminded of themselves and bent "partner !!"

[rocket757]

But the noise went !!! Positive / negative, it doesn’t matter anymore, IT IS!
So what could have been bored with the minister in vain? He did his job, then everything will be smashed or spread in the media ... it’s already becoming more fun and interesting!

[atalef]

Quote: rocket757

But the noise went !!! Positive / negative, it doesn’t matter anymore, IT IS!

it is not.
Well, I have not heard a single report about this. maybe somewhere in passing and mentioned - but I did not hear.
and I watch the news regularly.

[rocket757]

Your word is "Comrade Mauser"! my guess may not be correct ....
Now is the time for other news, more importantly.

[Gennady Fomkin]

At least something is not about the virus. Thank you

[rocket757]

The news of those that is SIMPLY INTERESNO and FUN!

[sanik2020]

It's simple, Armata is too old and still raw, there is no money to finish it and especially purchase now, because such a fuss has two goals: to knock out money for finishing Armata and warm up the public interest of potential customers, everything else is just foam.

[Keeping]

If our tanks are there, then our troops are taking part in the battles, in addition to the VKS?

[Maas]

About tens of thousands of retweets reminded of the famous Suvorov "Why should you feel sorry for them, bastard, write more"
So about the tanks, no one saw them in Syria, but this is a signal for Nata, and tens of thousands of retweets from the Indians. It's funny and sad where this crazy digital world is heading!

[Esaul]

It was necessary to put the BM Dagger on the Boomerang and send it to the SAR so that it would go first in the convoy and drive American trucks out of the way.

[KCA]

The BTR-80 followed the "Tiger", and the shooting was carried out from it, the eighty would have easily removed the American from the road, but somehow they did not do it

[Roman123567]

This is all Russian propaganda. There is no way to use it (the tank) there without being seen by anyone. This, most likely, only portends its use, being a warning to NATO.

For some reason, the Greeks better understand what purpose this statement was made ..
Unlike ours, believers, that the goal was "to identify numerous sores" ..))

[Evgeny Velikanov]

And someone saw the su-57 and showed it in the photo until ours announced it?

But here only storytellers are sitting

[ender]

Quote: Evgeny Velikanov

And someone saw the su-57 and showed it in the photo until ours announced it?

But here only storytellers are sitting

not only - not declared, but also denied at first

Moscow. February 22. INTERFAX.RU - Two fifth-generation fighters Su-57 (T-50, PAK FA) have been relocated to Syria, informed sources confirmed to Interfax on Thursday.

“They are really there,” one source said, commenting on reports of the arrival of two Su-57s at Khmeimim airbase.

The interlocutors of the agency did not specify the purpose of relocation of the fighters. However, one of the sources recalled that the aircraft is being tested. They suggest, inter alia, the test of weapons of the Su-57.

Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security Viktor Bondarev said on Thursday that he did not know about the Su-57 in Syria. “We were not given such information,” Bondarev, until recently the commander-in-chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces, told reporters, answering a question from Interfax.

The fact that Russia has sent two fifth generation Su-57 fighters to Syria was reported earlier Thursday by the media, citing Syrian activists. In particular, the radio station "Echo of Moscow" notes that the day before, these planes landed at the Russian airbase Khmeimim. It is reported that four Su-35 fighters and an A-50 long-range radar patrol aircraft also arrived at the base in Syria.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Evgeny Velikanov

And someone saw the su-57 and showed it in the photo until ours announced it?

yeah, yeah)) First, the entire Internet, all social networks were full of photos and videos of the Su-57 in Syria. And then only MO woke up, with its slurred comments.

[Evgeny Velikanov]

What do you prove?

[Paphnutius the Unforgettable]

Yes, a big click on the nose of Turkish intelligence! Dee and NATO intelligence too! I understand what’s the matter, all NATO intelligence is self-isolated and sitting at home!

[Keeping]

Yes, now at NATO headquarters there is a commotion. Everyone is running, everyone is running in the bus, a signal has been received, everyone is discussing Armata in Syria.
In the evening there will be a briefing, they will hold a round table on the topic: The use of tanks with an uninhabited combat module against radical terrorists ...

[Siberian54]

but in advertising: participated in hostilities (just like with the F-35)

[Yury Siritsky]

You would have to write obituaries, prices would not be on the market day.

[fif21]

This is the third article on VO about "Armata". What was tested in Syria is +. The fact that countries are interested in the new product + And what to discuss? TTX, used ammunition ...... The tank is modern, expensive, so it will be sold over the hill. Questions of price, service? I think that these issues are not considered at VO. Advertising KA-50 (Black Shark) made a feature film, but about "Armata" in the same Syria that filmed? A flaw, however.

[Peter is not the first]

They will be removed, it is quite possible that this was one of the goals of the appearance of the tank in Syria. And we will see how the shell flies into the window of the house where the meeting of the leaders of "An Nusra" (banned in Russia) with the terrorist troops of Turkey and the United States (banned all over the world) is taking place.

[Lord of the Sith]

Great news against the backdrop of spiteful critics howling that "Armata is all."
While they are scribbling all kinds of dregs on the Internet, combat trials are proceeding quite successfully.

[lot]

If only a word on the case. reprint of some kind of Greek pancake.

[Nitarius]

here as in the BAZAAR .. one Jew climbs on the barrel .. and Screams .. that Moishe's wife is sending .. then he goes down the barrel .. he stands nearby and says! why did you lie to the people .. it's not like that! Yes it’s not so .. but now, go and prove it to everyone! and here .. the main thing they’ll call out))) and they’ll think up the panic themselves)))

[iouris]

What data? What were these tests? If he was shot at N times with Javelins, but could only hit n times (n <

[Boratsagdiev]

Now is not the beginning of the 20th century; they know how to disguise themselves.
Repainted, put in a group of next alterations of the Syrian Kulibin, and there the devil himself will not make out.
Yes, and it’s convenient to compare on a high-quality picture and when there is something to compare with (reference sample).
In reality, you can’t always substitute a ruler. And the human eye and brain love to think and invent themselves.

[atalef]

Quote: BoratSagdiev

Now is not the beginning of the 20th century; they know how to disguise themselves.

and sozvizdet ... so in general.

Quote: BoratSagdiev

And the human eye and brain love to think and invent themselves.

that's for sure.

[Alexey-74]

I hope the tests went well, and the T-14 confirmed the claimed characteristics!

[smaug78]

And what to discuss if they were not

[VDV1985]

Wow ! How many dyke iksperdahs, which besides crying and crying, nichrome do not know how, crawled out! :)))

[Miron]

The yuan fell sharply.
And China, from almost admitting guilt in the spread of the virus, Kovid suddenly found in himself the spine to remember that scientific evidence indicates its American origin.
This is what happens when the Turkish President disappears in a deep Sino - Saxon accent.
You see, by the end of August oil will hit its 60, and suddenly for all the Russo-maydown it will turn out that Armata is the cheapest Russian tank in the history of the tank structure.

[Igor E.]

Zadolbali moronic cartoons!

[Varaga]

This is all Russian propaganda. There is no way to use it (the tank) there without being seen by anyone.

I disagree. There are, of course, ways. One way is to fire from long distances. Musk. the network has not been canceled either. Especially if they are used on all tanks (including ATS tanks). And go and figure out where there is "Armata", and where is T-72 (90). In addition, we have already heard similar doubts about the Su-57 at one time.

[Varaga]

Russia is so great that we have deserts

Did you study well? I will also reveal to you a "terrible secret" ... There is only one desert in "our immense" whole - Astrakhan. And that rather semi-desert overgrown with grass. And even where there are sand dunes, grass also grows right from the sand. This is the first thing.
And the second: to fully test the "product", polygon conditions are not enough. Sooner or later it will be necessary to conduct tests "in conditions as close as possible to combat conditions." I am sure that this was done to the fullest before sending to Syria. But without testing in real combat conditions, the "product" will not be considered complete. Testing at the training ground, at the exercises, is a game of chess with oneself. The real combat situation is a completely different "calico".

[Varaga]

Quote: private person

Let me remind you that the goal of testing is not at all

And in what? Drive a little sand around the air base and stand under the scorching sun? That's just interesting.

Including that no one really knew anything. And all these gossip on the Web confirm that the goal has been achieved.

[Yury Siritsky]

Whether it was not, the main hint was understood.

[bar]

The foreign media are actively discussing the statement by the head of the Russian Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov

Launched a hedgehog under a blanket, fussed
This is good, even if fake. Let them start to be afraid.

[Evil Booth]

Quote: Sergey S.

Since the Prophetic Oleg?
Over the past 30 years ...?
Or after 2014?
Or in conditions of self-isolation?

ahem um perhaps like the general of armored hoofed space submarines i choose varian E

[CAMS]

I don’t even remember when these are our warriors in vain .., well or not, but the main thing, until the warriors completed, there was no market. These are more Americans amateurs ...

[Simon]

Quote: private person

Yeah, another "Duck" to distract from the problems with the coronavirus. To test the "Armata" in Syria and no one saw it or filmed it? Then the patrol drove into the mud, filmed and showed a video. And then the T-14 and no one saw how they brought it and where. Video in the studio or is there nothing to be proud of? The T-14 did not show outstanding results, the barmaley would certainly have shown the "shaitanmashina."

Nobody saw the T-90 as they were being transported to Syria, and yet he was there and fought. And the T-14 is good that Russia quietly transported this tank to Syria and checked this tank in modern military operations. In military operations, the advantages and disadvantages of this tank are always visible, which are then eliminated.

[Chingachguk]

Vyyyyy, gopher see?
Nooo !!!!
And he is there !!!!!

[Corundum]

So in Syria, there is no real modern battle .. And will the Russian budget pull Armata after the pandemic and the fall in oil and gas prices? The fat years are over .. "How the table and the house were ready under each bush."

[Chingachguk]

Mdaaaaaaa ... I read a bunch of comments on the VO on this article ....
It seemed that all the weapons described by Putin during his reign are fake ...... S-400 seems to be there, but he doesn’t shoot, he shoots like the coolest patriots, according to most experts of the local spill ....
Well what can I say, not surprised .......