More serious than Vietnam syndrome?


Social psychology is rapidly transforming in the world. If a couple of months ago, psychology “forced” people to divide into certain social groups - by interests, including professional, by level of education, income, by political preference, now the transformation leads to a completely different one. People are wary of each other, literally perceiving each as a source of potential danger.


Under such conditions, the stable parameters of military psychology are also violated. Such concepts as “adversary”, “military confrontation”, “military alliance”, and “ally” are substantially eroded. Even within those groups, which, by definition, should have been a model of unity, psychological deformation is manifested. The reason is understandable - the reaction to a completely new threat - one that was previously unknown. Moreover, not much is known about it even now, despite the fact that literally hourly different experts and those who call themselves such speak about the coronavirus threat.

Between individuals, completely new boundaries, barriers. They are invisible, are purely psychological in nature. But they are based on the natural instinct - the instinct of self-preservation, which can often completely suppress even the voice of reason.

A new kind of stigmatization is emerging. If a person finds out that the other person has that same coronavirus, then this leads not only to rejection, but also to the urge to transfer it to almost another social category. Similar stigmatization is becoming increasingly apparent in relation to those people who are not inclined to dramatize the situation.

Returning to the military theme, it should be noted that under such conditions the very understanding of the military collective is also pretty blurred.

One vivid example is the situation with the American aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, whose commander decided to tell the press through what was happening on board. It turned out that he expressed distrust of the possible actions of his immediate superiors in the case of a “statutory” appeal and report. This distrust led to distrust of the authorities to the commander himself, and then to the adoption of decisions that now cause discontent among the crew of the aircraft carrier. On this the chain does not break: a single military team tests the strength of the attitude of its members towards each other, who blame either the commanders, the military medics, or the intelligence representatives for what can be expressed with the words “they didn’t save”.

The psychological portrait of such a military team is filled with dark colors. And the restoration of relations, which are becoming more strained and increasingly less trusting, can take much longer than can be assumed. This is the same as the initial underestimation of the so-called Vietnam syndrome in the United States. However, the psychological problems that the American army faced in the 70s suggest that underestimation was in vain. It is possible that today there is a certain underestimation of the syndrome associated with the manifestations of the coronavirus pandemic: a reaction to the fact that anyone can become a carrier of infection, problems of assessing isolation and loneliness, panic from what the media broadcast about the situation in the world and much more , including isolation ("geographic", and, possibly, psychological) from your near and dear ones. And it is quite possible that from the point of view of psychology, the situation may turn out to be more serious than the Vietnam syndrome itself.
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  1. demo April 17 2020 18: 47 New
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    The more panic in the ranks of our overseas “partners” and the more they don’t trust a friend, the better and calmer we are.
    And if they begin to eliminate threats in the most dramatic way, then this will make me very happy.

    And let the virus create such a syndrome, in comparison with which the Vietnamese will seem like child's play.
    1. swnvaleria April 17 2020 19: 10 New
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      like in the film "water world" a tanker with smokers, only now plague aircraft carriers will sail across the oceans
      1. major147 April 17 2020 20: 26 New
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        Quote: swnvaleria
        only now plague aircraft carriers in the oceans will sail

        In the Vietnam War, US casualties were estimated at between 46 and 50 thousand people. I think the virus they surpass Vietnam. As of 05:30 Moscow time today, 30 deaths were recorded in the United States.
        1. Navat April 18 2020 07: 02 New
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          It’s good that in our army they don’t have a crown and there is a complete brotherhood between brothers in arms and full trust in commanders and military doctors !!! How gratifying to read about the decay of the American army!
    2. The guard April 17 2020 19: 28 New
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      Quote: demo
      The more panic in the ranks of our overseas “partners” and the more they don’t trust a friend, the better and calmer we are.

      I agree, mind you Russophobian hysteria has subsided, only our inside the fifth column has intensified the fearing people .. hi
      Quote: demo
      And let the virus create such a syndrome, in comparison with which the Vietnamese will seem like child's play.

      Well, God forbid .. Vietnam showed the United States. That they are nobody against the people of another country .. And the Soviet specialists only helped a little!
      Then the truth is that the United States avenged us for everything .. And the Vietnamese are waiting for us all the same, but not our oligarchy is thieving, but those who used to be SOVIET!
      1. Pereira April 17 2020 19: 47 New
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        SOVIETS die of old age. Instead of them, the fists breed themselves and raise the armpits. We fight with the podkulakniki in government bodies, in business and on the Internet.
        The process has been going on for 30 years.
        1. The guard April 17 2020 21: 50 New
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          Quote: Pereira
          SOVIETS die of old age. Instead of them, the fists breed themselves and raise the armpits

          Vlasovites are likely to be called that ..
          Quote: Pereira
          We fight with the podkulakniki in government bodies, in business and on the Internet.
          The process has been going on for 30 years.

          This process began when Khrushchev Bandera and the like massively released from the camps after the 20th Congress .. Typo Stalin is a tyrant, and he is so good ...
          So we got revenge for everything .. hiAnd these types are psychologically able to attach to any power, but melt away anger and knowing how to wait in the wings ..
  2. Pereira April 17 2020 18: 55 New
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    Now plant no more than one at a time in the tank.
    The battle will now go like this:
    1. The commander of the individual car gave an order to the driver.
    2. The driver got behind the wheel, brought the tank to its place.
    3. Charger arrived on a motorcycle. I gave it to the driver, he climbed into the tank and loaded the gun. The driver drove back, left the motorcycle and climbed into an individual trailer.
    4. The gunner on a motorcycle reaches the tank, gives the motorcycle to the loader, he climbs into the tank, points a gun, shoots.
    5. At this time, the loader arrives at the individual wagon and passes the motorcycle to the driver so that he gets to the tank and relocates it until the Russians come to their senses and return fire.
    Next is the next cycle.
    1. mole April 17 2020 19: 47 New
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      You forgot about disinfection. Urgently one fighter from RCBZ in the calculation of the tank wink
      1. Navat April 18 2020 07: 05 New
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        What Americans are stupid in comparison with us! Thank you, Pereira, your sparkling article made my day !!!
    2. Peter is not the first April 17 2020 19: 48 New
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      wink You are mistaken a little. The charging Negro will not have an individual house and therefore when other crew members are in the tank, he simply either runs next to the tank or stands at a distance from it (distance from 1,5 to 5 meters and is constantly increasing according to WHO recommendations).
      1. Pereira April 17 2020 19: 49 New
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        You are behind the times. A house for every black man. And white runs nearby.
        1. Peter is not the first April 17 2020 19: 50 New
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          This is if the Negro is also gay. am
          1. Pereira April 17 2020 19: 51 New
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            Then with air conditioning
    3. Zoldat_A April 17 2020 22: 14 New
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      Quote: Pereira
      Now plant no more than one at a time in the tank.
      The battle will now go like this:
      1. The commander of the individual car gave an order to the driver.
      2. The driver got behind the wheel, brought the tank to its place.
      3. Charger arrived on a motorcycle. I gave it to the driver, he climbed into the tank and loaded the gun. The driver drove back, left the motorcycle and climbed into an individual trailer.
      4. The gunner on a motorcycle reaches the tank, gives the motorcycle to the loader, he climbs into the tank, points a gun, shoots.
      5. At this time, the loader arrives at the individual wagon and passes the motorcycle to the driver so that he gets to the tank and relocates it until the Russians come to their senses and return fire.
      Next is the next cycle.

      good
      It looks like an old task from the series of "Entertaining Mathematics" - how a peasant can transport goat, wolf and cabbage across the river in one boat so that no one will eat anyone if there are only two places in the boat, except for the peasant. smile
  3. Lopatov April 17 2020 19: 08 New
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    Some nonsense.
    Really got into this situation in the school. The epidemic of mumps just before the holidays. Non-fatal, but people are adults, the tolerance is awful, in about a third of patients with urogenital complications.

    And honestly, I did not notice what was described in the article.
    1. stalki April 17 2020 19: 14 New
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      Well, this is with us, otherwise they have it)
    2. New Year day April 17 2020 19: 31 New
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      Quote: Spade
      Non-fatal, but people are adults, the tolerance is awful, in about a third of patients with urogenital complications.

      in the form of male infertility. The problem is crucial
      Quote: Spade
      And honestly, I did not notice what was described in the article.

      if the box will escalate the situation, and not explain, then soon the psychosis will be even the most calm
      1. Lopatov April 17 2020 19: 44 New
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        Quote: Silvestr
        in the form of male infertility. The problem is crucial

        That's it.
        When the "friends" swell to such a size that they have to wear them on the apron in the toilet, it’s clear that this will not do without consequences laughing

        However, what was described in the article did not exactly arise. Not anger towards the sick, nothing.

        The only thing is the fear that someone else will fall ill by the end of the epidemic. As far as I remember before the holidays, the month remained, and they said that they would either count twenty or 25 days from the last sick person. That is, the vacation could be covered with a copper basin, they were not going to transfer it.
        1. New Year day April 17 2020 19: 47 New
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          Quote: Spade
          No anger towards the sick

          patients are not offended, it happens.
          Quote: Spade
          fear that someone else will fall ill by the end of the epidemic.

          this is probably not fear, but a strong desire to rush home when the last days stretch like rubber
          1. Lopatov April 17 2020 20: 03 New
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            Quote: Silvestr
            when the last days stretch like rubber

            Session, on the contrary jumped flew.

            It is fear. Usually, at the end of a divorce for classes, did someone ask the battery commander, "Drag major, no one got sick?" (the whole school is in quarantine, not separate units) And everyone freezes. He is "not sick" and everyone is dying. And the closer to vacation, the strained higher.
            1. New Year day April 17 2020 20: 05 New
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              Quote: Spade
              Session, on the contrary jumped flew.

              Yes now, you don’t even remember when the New Year was! And in his youth, everything quickly flowed doubly. Yes, and youth itself passes quickly
    3. Navat April 18 2020 07: 07 New
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      Quote: Spade
      Some nonsense.
      Really got into this situation in the school. The epidemic of mumps just before the holidays. Non-fatal, but people are adults, the tolerance is awful, in about a third of patients with urogenital complications.

      And honestly, I did not notice what was described in the article.


      Lopatov, so we have spiritual bonds, and the article writes about the stupid and rotten US army
      1. Lopatov April 18 2020 07: 53 New
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        Quote: Navat
        Lopatov, so we have spiritual bonds, and the article writes about the stupid and rotten US army

        it is truth too
  4. rocket757 April 17 2020 19: 29 New
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    Horror stories that come true!
    I also wanted to write about the crew of a combat vehicle! But the situation has already been described above.
    I would like to make an addition to the process. After each replacement of a crew member, the tank DISINFECT!
    1. Pereira April 17 2020 19: 42 New
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      And a motorcycle.
      1. major147 April 17 2020 20: 30 New
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        Quote: Pereira
        And a motorcycle.

        Disposable motorcycle.
        1. rocket757 April 17 2020 21: 10 New
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          Live and learn! It is not for nothing that my colleague from the department of the Russian Chemical Safety Laboratory said that their service is both dangerous and not boring!
          1. cniza April 17 2020 21: 16 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            Live and learn! It is not for nothing that my colleague from the department of the Russian Chemical Safety Laboratory said that their service is both dangerous and not boring!


            And the main thing is not so easy to breathe ... yes
            1. rocket757 April 17 2020 21: 25 New
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              The sergeant always said that the GAZA team was not to let them out, but to not swallow them inside!
              Welcome soldier
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  6. Lopatov April 17 2020 19: 56 New
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    One vivid example is the situation with the American aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt.

    The story was recalled Soviet, "Dolphin Cry."
    I read in the old binder of the "Seeker" in Chechnya
    About an epidemic aboard an underwater missile carrier. As it was represented by Soviet science fiction writers.
  7. Van 16 April 17 2020 19: 57 New
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    You know, I may not quite be in the subject, But the farther the more the whole world lives on the principle of "man to man is a wolf."
    And one involuntarily recalls another who was in the Union - "man is friend to man, comrade and brother."
  8. mavrus April 17 2020 20: 20 New
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    Quote: Pereira
    Now plant no more than one at a time in the tank.
    The battle will now go like this:
    1. The commander of the individual car gave an order to the driver.
    2. The driver got behind the wheel, brought the tank to its place.
    3. Charger arrived on a motorcycle. I gave it to the driver, he climbed into the tank and loaded the gun. The driver drove back, left the motorcycle and climbed into an individual trailer.
    4. The gunner on a motorcycle reaches the tank, gives the motorcycle to the loader, he climbs into the tank, points a gun, shoots.
    5. At this time, the loader arrives at the individual wagon and passes the motorcycle to the driver so that he gets to the tank and relocates it until the Russians come to their senses and return fire.
    Next is the next cycle.

    Forgot about disinfection, after each,
    a comrade with special liquid gets into the tank and wipes it all with a rag ... And the shell too, and then suddenly it has a coronavirus, it will already be a bacteriological weapon.
  9. iouris April 17 2020 22: 36 New
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    Quote: "The world is rapidly transforming social psychology." The end of the quote.
    In which world? Who belongs to this world and who does not belong to this world? What does the author mean by the term "social psychology"?
  10. Terenin April 17 2020 22: 58 New
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    And it is quite possible that from the point of view of psychology, the situation may turn out to be more serious than the Vietnam syndrome itself.
    in my opinion these are two different things. There was - a polite activity of politicians who had a tragic impact on ordinary participants in military events.
    Figuratively speaking, in the memory of veterans there was a subject (guilty) who did not suffer, and only then - obsessive memories of the bloody war, nightmares, constant thoughts of events in Vietnam ...
    And in the case of a pandemic, who should be blamed? All in the same conditions. If you go crazy, then everyone, no one will notice contrasts in behavior. No one here will stay in a villa on an island no
    1. NordUral April 17 2020 23: 35 New
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      And in the case of a pandemic, who should be blamed? All in the same conditions.

      I think that this is not so. Someone is in completely different, safe conditions, and always, when he starts white.
      1. Terenin April 18 2020 09: 48 New
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        Quote: NordUral
        And in the case of a pandemic, who should be blamed? All in the same conditions.

        I think that this is not so. Someone is in completely different, safe conditions, and always, when he starts white.

        Obviously, a person is so arranged that always, especially in troubles, I want to find people smarter, more selfish and more ambitious ... winked
  11. NordUral April 17 2020 23: 33 New
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    This cannot be the case with us, even as a result of the last 30 plus years, we have not reached this point. And I think that we will never reach him.
  12. Ros 56 April 18 2020 08: 30 New
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    Yes, even though throats gnaw at each other, these striped, we are what sadness. Unless liberals will worry.
  13. sanik2020 April 18 2020 09: 56 New
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    But they are based on the natural instinct - the instinct of self-preservation, which can often completely suppress even the voice of reason.

    So instinct is not mind. If a creature lives by instinct, it is an animal, if it lives by reason, it is a man. Only among people there are so many creatures living instincts that from a person they have only appearance and no matter what time, calm or crisis, he lives.