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Gas transit through Ukraine brings significant losses to Gazprom

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Since December 2019, $ 684 million has been received by Gazprom from the accounts of Naftogaz Ukraine as payment for gas transit. This amount also includes prepayment for April.


This was said by the Executive Director of Naftogaz Ukraine Yuriy Vitrenko in an interview with the Ukrainian edition of OilPoint.

The indicated amount has been paid by Russia since the conclusion of a new contract for the transit of natural gas through the gas transportation system of Ukraine.

Vitrenko said that Gazprom is calculated on time, without delay.

During this time, Gazprom suffered a loss of $ 190 million. The fact is that under the new contract, the Russian company is obliged to pump 178,1 million cubic meters of gas through Ukraine daily on a “download or pay” basis. The cost of transit is $ 31,72 for every thousand cubic meters. This means that you need to pay for the entire agreed transit volume, regardless of the actual volume of pumping.

Gazprom paid 21,6 billion cubic meters of gas for transit over four months, actually leaving only 15,6 billion cubic meters for this period and overpaying $ 190 million for that time.

The Russian company hopes that by the end of the year it will increase transit volumes and compensate for its losses.
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  1. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 April 13 2020 14: 33 New
    36
    This is KPP, it’s just not everyone can understand it, except for the GDP itself
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana April 13 2020 14: 40 New
      46
      I have the impression that professionally, in our Gazprom management, there are corny abnormal workers, or just Western lobbyists-saboteurs and "moles" are sitting!

      That's how it was possible under such an unstable foreign policy situation in the world with the same Ukraine and the EU countries to negotiate a constant price for supposedly constant gas flow through Ukraine, without taking into account the possible actual change in gas demand in the West and without concluding an agreement with this for the actual amount of gas pumping in% ratio ?! Here is how ?!
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 13 2020 14: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: Tatiana
        I have the impression that, professionally, we have abnormal Western lobbyists at Gazprom, and Western lobbyists - "moles" are sitting!

        Yeah...

        "Ne mala woman trouble, bought a pig"...

        I translate into Russian: Russia had no problems, began to contain the outskirts ...
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana April 13 2020 14: 48 New
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          Quote: Insurgent
          I translate into Russian: I didn’t Russia problems began to contain Outskirts ...

          So this is exactly what the West was seeking !!! To the Russian Federation contained anti-Russian Ukraine.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana April 13 2020 15: 12 New
            +6
            Moreover. It was reported that the Russian government plans to take a loan from the United States in the amount of $ 1 trillion, supposedly to fight the Russian Federation with the coronavirus.
            Then the following comparison begs. Namely.
            QUESTION.
            How much money will Washington save on aid to Ukraine, which is hostile to Russia, if Gazprom has such an agreement on gas pumping with Ukraine alone.
            ANSWER.
            For 2020.
            $ 190 billion x 3 quarters = already $ 570 billion +% for an American loan!
            For the year 2021, for sure, in their foreign policy from the Russian Federation they will benefit the same! Another $ 570 billion or so.

            And what is it all called ??? !!!

            The cost of transit is $ 31,72 for every thousand cubic meters. This means that you need to pay for the entire agreed transit volume, regardless of the actual volume of pumping.
            Gazprom paid for transit within four months, 21,6 billion cubic meters of gas, actually leaving only 15,6 billion cubic meters for this period and overpaying $ 190 billion for this time.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana April 13 2020 15: 32 New
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              For 2020. $ 190 billion x 3 quarters = already $ 570 billion +% for an American loan! For 2021, the United States, for sure, will benefit from the Russian Federation in its foreign policy! Another $ 570 billion or so.

              Typo "billion" read "million"
              The article originally indicated
              overpaying $ 190 billion over this time.
              Now fixed.
              For 2020.
              $ 190 million x 3 quarters = already $ 570 million +% for an American loan!
              For the year 2021 of the United States, for sure, in their foreign policy from the Russian Federation they will benefit the same! Another $ 570 million or so.
            2. Kamikadze19
              Kamikadze19 April 13 2020 15: 34 New
              +4
              190 million to not billion
            3. Jelezyakov
              Jelezyakov April 13 2020 15: 37 New
              0
              Millions seems to be written.
            4. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky April 13 2020 21: 53 New
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              Moreover. It was reported that the Russian government plans to take a loan from the United States in the amount of $ 1 trillion, supposedly to fight the Russian Federation with the coronavirus.

              Then you, Tatyana, got a little excited. Went gossip that they want to borrow an amount equivalent to 1 trillion rubles, but not 1 trillion dollars at all.
              All our gold and foreign exchange reserves are less than the indicated amount of the "loan" by 350-400 billion dollars.
            5. CSKA
              CSKA April 14 2020 13: 54 New
              +6
              Quote: Tatiana
              Moreover. It was reported that the Russian government plans to take a loan from the United States in the amount of $ 1 trillion, supposedly to fight the Russian Federation with the coronavirus.

              Do you even think about what you write. Firstly, it is only a rumor in the Western press. Secondly, countries in which tens of thousands of infected and thousands of victims do not take such amounts. Thirdly, no country in the world has ever received such a loan. Fourth, how the United States can give someone a loan in 20 of its GDP.
              For the rest of the nonsense that you wrote, I don’t even see the point of answering.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana April 14 2020 14: 27 New
                0
                Quote: CSKA
                Do you even think about what you write. Firstly, it is only a rumor in the Western press.

                First of all. It seems to you that this "rumor" does not surprise me at all. If there was a rumor, the Russian Foreign Ministry would have denied it long ago.
                And secondly. Yes, I did indeed have a typo in my comment: there should be not 1 trillion dollars, but 1 trillion rubles. And what essentially changes it? Moreover, it doesn’t change anything critically!
                See in detail the article dated April 3, 2020 - "Russia is going to get into debt because of the coronavirus" - https://lenta.ru/news/2020/04/03/russiandebt/
                1. Liam
                  Liam April 14 2020 14: 37 New
                  0
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  not 1 trillion dollars, but 1 trillion rubles. And what essentially changes it?

                  Nothing. Unless such a trifle that 1 trillion dollars is 80 trillion rubles. 80 times the difference.
                  Is it that in fact something changes if your pension is 10.000 rubles or 800.000 rubles. The main thing would be, but how much does not matter)
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana April 14 2020 14: 59 New
                    0
                    Quote: Liam
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    not 1 trillion dollars, but 1 trillion rubles. And what essentially changes it?
                    Nothing. Unless such a trifle that 1 trillion dollars is 80 trillion rubles. 80 times the difference.
                    Unless in fact something changes if your pension is 10.000 rubles or 800.000 rubles. The main thing that would be, but no matter how much)

                    In my comment, I do not compare with pensions, but with the cost of losses on gas transportation through Ukraine for the first quarter of 1.
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Now fixed.
                    For 2020.$ 190 million x 3 quarters = already $ 570 million +% for an American loan!
                    The United States, for sure, in its foreign policy from the Russian Federation will benefit as much! Another $ 570 million or so.

                    1 trillion rub. US loan = $ 12500 billion.

                    In 2 years we will receive
                    $ 570 million + $ 570 million = ($ 1140 +% over 2 years) will turn out to be = or> $ 12500 million.

                    Well, what has changed in the context of the article and according to this calculation in the problem of Washington shifting the content of Ukraine to the Russian Federation? Yes, absolutely nothing has changed!
                    1. CSKA
                      CSKA April 14 2020 17: 07 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      In my comment, I do not compare with pensions, but with the cost of losses on gas transportation through Ukraine for the first quarter of 1.

                      Oh my god, turn on your head. What are the losses? Any losses incurred by any company are determined at the end of the year by net profit, and not because of the first quarter. And do you have Gazprom earnings data for the 1st quarter?
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Washington shifting the content of Ukraine to the Russian Federation has changed?

                      What is the content there? Look at the budget of dill and compare in percentage terms with what Gazprom pays for transit.
                2. CSKA
                  CSKA April 14 2020 16: 53 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  First of all. It seems to you that this "rumor" does not surprise me at all. If there was a rumor, the Russian Foreign Ministry would have denied it long ago.

                  The Russian Foreign Ministry should not respond to any article by any journalist.
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  And secondly. Yes, I did indeed have a typo in my comment: there should be not 1 trillion dollars, but 1 trillion rubles. And what essentially changes it?

                  ))))) Radically everything. Do you feel the difference?
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Moreover, it doesn’t change anything critically!

                  )))) That's just funny. In general, nothing changes directly.
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  See in detail the article dated April 3, 2020 - "Russia is going to get into debt because of the coronavirus" - https://lenta.ru/news/2020/04/03/russiandebt/

                  The fact that in the tape, something is written does not mean that it is true.
                  And most importantly, you at least asked yourself the question, with gold and foreign exchange reserves of 570 billion and NWF 127 billion, why take a loan of 73 billion?!
          2. Lister
            Lister April 13 2020 17: 45 New
            15
            Quote: Tatiana
            To the Russian Federation contained anti-Russian Ukraine.

            And we still contain this Russophobian country ... It's a shame ...
          3. private person
            private person April 13 2020 19: 22 New
            +3
            So this is exactly what the West was seeking !!! To the Russian Federation contained anti-Russian Ukraine.

            So our leadership is not against, they are "brothers". The main thing is that everyone can see what a good king we have.
          4. Semen Sychev
            Semen Sychev April 14 2020 11: 55 New
            0
            Is that Putin dancing to the tune of the State Department?
        2. Trotil42
          Trotil42 April 13 2020 15: 03 New
          26
          Miller was broadcasting all over the country .. shale oil - a soap bubble that will burst soon .. taught the Americans the economy .. popped ...already snot flew to us ... that would not choke on these snot ..the price of gas depends on oil ... a genius one word .. Gref promised the collapse of the dollar ... the bankruptcy of California and the Texas branch .. almost looked into the water ..
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. April 13 2020 15: 26 New
            15
            Miller immediately after the Bandera-fascist coup put the gas junta at $ 5 billion. without payment, i.e. free of charge. Then he said that you have to pay. The junta threw the crumbs in his face and sent him to Stockholm (Arbitration Court). In Stockholm, Miller was told that he owed another $ 3 billion. Ukraine has a difficult economic situation and needs money. Miller agreed. Moreover, Miller, together with the Ukrainian Kozak, concluded another enslaving contract for the maintenance of Ukraine.
            1. Lister
              Lister April 13 2020 17: 45 New
              25
              Quote: Nikolai S.
              Miller immediately after the Bandera-fascist coup put the gas junta at $ 5 billion. without payment, i.e. free of charge.

              This proves that pests have dug in Gazprom.
            2. Igoresha
              Igoresha April 15 2020 08: 34 New
              -2
              immediately after the bandera-fascist coup
              VTB and Sberbank climbed with enviable constancy and pressure (you’re out the window at the door), banned in ya Yandex so far the news on the 1st page in the style of Kiev media puts-yes, the turn to skid the dough in Ukraine was built)))
          2. Lister
            Lister April 13 2020 17: 45 New
            17
            Quote: Trotil42
            Miller broadcast the whole country .. shale oil - a soap bubble that will burst soon

            Do not burst. Shale oil in the US is developing. And they have great opportunities in the development of oil shale ...
            1. Trotil42
              Trotil42 April 13 2020 18: 05 New
              +5
              It was sarcasm .. Americans want to reduce the cost below our production ... here such sadness .. certainly will not burst ..
              1. Lister
                Lister April 13 2020 18: 30 New
                14
                Quote: Trotil42
                That was sarcasm

                Sorry I did not understand... hi
        3. Maas
          Maas April 13 2020 15: 57 New
          +6
          "Yeah...

          "Ne little woman is a bummer, she bought a pig" ...

          I am translating into Russian: Russia had no problems, it began to support the Outskirts ... "

          If we had the opportunity to bypass Ukraine in December 2019 with other transit capacities, we would not have paid, and so, the loser pays.
          In this case, the Russian Federation.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus April 13 2020 14: 45 New
        -3
        how could it be possible under such an unstable foreign policy situation in the world with Ukraine and the EU countries to agree on a constant cost of pumping gas, not taking into account the actual change in its demand in the West, and


        ALL THE Tricky ones try to outwit and earn, sometimes they outwit and earn, more often outwit them.
        NOT A GERMAN MENTALITY MILLER, they don't see a partridge - only a crane or a titmouse, that's why the hunt goes for "profitable birds" ------------------- AND YOU NEED FOR PROFITABLE
        HOWEVER - GAZPROM-EXPORT --- ONLY A PART OF OUR AZPROM, and the entire PAOGazprom - not all of the gas industry of the Russian Federation and not all of the economy of Russia.
        excessive attention
        1. Klingon
          Klingon April 13 2020 17: 08 New
          +1
          certainly not German, for 21 years living in Germany, I have never seen a single German with the surname Miller. here is Müller (Müller) yes, they are full. and in general it’s like ours Ivanov-Petrov-Sidorov so in Germany Müller-Mayer-Schmidt. Muller, again. Not Miller or Zimmermann, because I think the Jews and not the Germans. Zimmermann so exactly the Jewish surname
          1. Fishery
            Fishery April 13 2020 17: 44 New
            -1
            Miller is a common German surname with the meaning "miller", may be of English origin (English Miller) or go back to the old Russian transmission ü as in the German surname, which is now referred to as Müller (German Müller) and can be found in this form Russified Germans. but in general you are of course an expert))))) in German and Yiddish this is a miller) total)) German Jew, German, Englishman, choose who prevents you from living more))

            Py sy- Miller never saw Jews)))) Schneider is full, but there are no Millers))
      3. BecmepH
        BecmepH April 13 2020 14: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Tatiana
        just Western lobbyists-pests and "moles" are sitting!

        !!!
      4. knn54
        knn54 April 13 2020 14: 58 New
        24
        At Gazprom! Are salaries lowered, salaries are delayed, bonuses are not paid?
        As with Rosneft. It is not they who lose, but the state — the burden falls on the shoulders of the people: tariffs, rising prices at gas stations, etc.
        1. Lister
          Lister April 13 2020 17: 46 New
          14
          Quote: knn54
          At Gazprom! Are salaries lowered, salaries are delayed, bonuses are not paid?

          This will probably never happen.
          Quote: knn54
          - the burden falls on the shoulders of the people

          They have such a policy, to reimburse their expenses at the expense of the people.
      5. Altona
        Altona April 13 2020 15: 01 New
        20
        Quote: Tatiana
        I have the impression that professionally, in our Gazprom management, there are corny abnormal workers, or just Western lobbyists-saboteurs and "moles" are sitting!

        -------------------------
        The bread-and-milk-and-dairy place was gained by the pull of non-professionals by the method of reverse selection. This is a general degradation of management, when the top is occupied by non-professionals. Suffice it to recall that a certain Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev was a lawyer at Gazprom.
      6. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion April 13 2020 15: 02 New
        -10
        Quote: Tatiana
        and without concluding a contract at the same time for the actual amount of gas pumped in% terms ?! Here is how ?!

        hi The author in a somewhat clumsy way outlined the problem of Gazprom. I suspect that he was either off topic or intentionally did it ...
        The cost of transit is determined from the forecasted annual volume of gas. The forecast volume is given by the consumer, that is, Europe, not Gazprom. At the conclusion of the contract, Gazprom operates with the volumes provided by gas consumers. This year a warm winter stood out and Europe did not select the entire volume of gas that was planned. But the transit price is set for the year and therefore it is possible that the pumping volume will increase in the fall if it is cold.
        In general, Gazprom experts are not guilty here, nature has decreed so.
        1. Avior
          Avior April 13 2020 15: 08 New
          +4
          The cost of transit is determined from the forecasted annual volume of gas.

          the contract specifies the minimum pumping volume for this year - 60 billion cubic meters per year, broken down by months
          transit price is indicated for the entire contract period
          1. Qwertyarion
            Qwertyarion April 13 2020 15: 11 New
            -3
            That's right, it will be so if the annual pumped in the contract is pumped.
            Here, in general, there are no problems, these are technical aspects of working with gas
            1. Avior
              Avior April 13 2020 15: 20 New
              +8
              even pumped though not
              Gazprom under the new contract leases and pays for the minimum transit capacities, and pays for them, and not for the volume of gas pumped. If more is necessary, then the payment will already be for the volume of gas.
              Guaranteed revenues from gas transit from Russia will amount to $ 7,2 billion over 5 years, and Gazprom will pay at least $ 32 for XNUMX cubic meters of pre-booked capacity. This was announced by the executive director of NJSC Naftogaz Yuriy Vitrenko on Facebook.
              ... the fee for the organization of transit is confidential information, but the tariffs are set by the national regulator, and they are in the public domain.
              “I would like to note that these tariffs are competitive. Naftogaz only adds a fee for its services (it is clear that this fee cannot be negative).
              When compared with a previous transit contract, it is important to realize that a direct comparison is incorrect due to a change in principles. Under the old contract, Gazprom paid monthly for the volume of gas transported under the new contract - for reserved capacities at the entry and exit points ...
        2. ccsr
          ccsr April 13 2020 17: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: Qwertyarion
          The cost of transit is determined from the forecasted annual volume of gas. The forecast volume is given by the consumer, that is, Europe, not Gazprom. At the conclusion of the contract, Gazprom operates with the volumes provided by gas consumers.

          That is exactly the case.
          Quote: Qwertyarion
          . This year a warm winter stood out and Europe did not select the entire volume of gas that was planned.

          Well, force majeure with coronavirus must be taken into account - this will also affect gas consumption in Europe, especially in the 2nd-3rd quarter.

          Quote: Qwertyarion
          But the transit price is set for the year and therefore it is possible that the pumping volume will increase in the fall if it is cold.

          Indeed, in the event of early cold weather or poor forecasts for winter temperatures, large volumes can begin to be pumped already in the 3rd quarter, and then their cost will cover the losses of the first two quarters.
          Quote: Qwertyarion
          In general, Gazprom experts are not guilty here, nature has decreed so.

          In this case, it can be compared by analogy with the yield - good weather, a large crop and the price falls, but the volume sold makes a profit. Bad weather - the crop is small, prices for agricultural products are high, but they do not cover all the costs of producers. And who to blame?
      7. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx April 13 2020 15: 58 New
        12
        Quote: Tatiana
        I have the impression that professionally in our Gazprom management trite abnormal work or just Western lobbyists-pests and "moles" are sitting!

        And I have no doubt about this - just look at the list of shareholders and the names of the “members” of the Board of Directors.
        Gas transit through Ukraine brings significant losses to Gazprom

        Gazprom? I have always believed that the losses of Gazprom, Rosneft and various other “Feduns-Deripasok-Michelsons-Timchenko-Alikperov-Friedman-Usmanov-etc.” successfully cover Miller-Sechin-Fedunov-Deripaska-Michelson-Alikperov-Friedman-Usman, etc. ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation ... belay
      8. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 13 2020 16: 02 New
        14
        Quote: Tatiana
        I have the impression that professionally, in our Gazprom management, there are corny abnormal workers, or just Western lobbyists-saboteurs and "moles" are sitting!

        And you imagine that if there is not enough volume for pumping through Ukraine, then why did they build the SP-2? The answer is simple, pipes for pipes, not without reason vrotenberg is now a shit of labor and with a multi-billion dollar fortune.
        Now it’s obvious that all their muddy dealings will come out.
        The president, by the way, is pleased with the work of Miller and Sechin.
        1. Lister
          Lister April 13 2020 17: 46 New
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          Quote: Malyuta
          The president, by the way, is pleased with the work of Miller and Sechin.

          So the work of Chubais at the top is also pleased ...
      9. Kronos
        Kronos April 13 2020 16: 39 New
        +3
        Why only there in every industry are fools and grabbers
        1. Lister
          Lister April 13 2020 17: 46 New
          17
          Quote: Kronos
          fools and grabbers sit in every industry

          This is one of our two eternal problems.
      10. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 13 2020 16: 51 New
        -7
        Well, for five years of such pumping through Ukraine, Gazprom certainly will not be impoverished since the company has more than 12 trillion rubles of equity.
      11. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 13 2020 16: 53 New
        +5
        Quote: Tatiana
        in our management of "Gazprom" corny abnormal work

        There, their posts are inherited, despite their intelligence and education. Well, such as the nobility in Russia. lol
      12. Oleg Zorin
        Oleg Zorin April 13 2020 17: 32 New
        0
        "corny abnormal" simply follow the instructions of the political leadership
      13. Lister
        Lister April 13 2020 17: 44 New
        17
        Quote: Tatiana
        I have the impression that professionally, in our Gazprom management, there are corny abnormal workers, or just Western lobbyists-saboteurs and "moles" are sitting!

        I agree with you. Western lobbyist pests sit in Gazprom, the fifth column, so to speak. They were the ones who signed the contract for gas transit through the territory of Ukraine. It is their lawyers who lose the courts to the Ukrainian side.
      14. mavrus
        mavrus April 13 2020 18: 39 New
        +3
        Yes, they are all "normal" in Gazprom ...
        And they rob Russia, and have a pullback from Ukraine. Not life, but a fairy tale ...
      15. lis-ik
        lis-ik April 13 2020 22: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Tatiana
        That’s how it was possible under such an unstable foreign policy situation in the world with the same Ukraine and with the EU countries to agree on a constant cost while supposedly constantly pumping gas through Ukraine,

        There are not abnormal, there are temporary workers, who have the main task now and more. In spite of their own greed, they even manage to do it where it would seem impossible.
      16. Comrade Michael
        Comrade Michael April 14 2020 08: 03 New
        +3
        It was not Gazprom that lost, those who were higher, lost in the international arena ... And they told us fairy tales about how we will "capture Washington" ...
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 April 13 2020 14: 43 New
      +9
      No, this is a tricky plan, at the level of the oil war, when they wanted to improve their positions a bit, but in the end they had to reduce production, more than other participants and much more than they would have had to under the old deal.

      Also here, they originally planned to launch SP-2 under the tree. Well, then from a position, and we do not really need Naftogaz, dictate the conditions, converge on the world’s suit, etc.

      In Kiev they were already hesitating, suddenly they would really go around and were ready for compromises.

      As a result, the SP-2 got covered and went away for a couple of years. I had to urgently run to Kiev and without any compromises, to conclude a rigid contract with payments for claims (and once they were paid for them, then they will probably have to be paid for new ones) and according to the "download or pay" formula for a fixed amount.
      1. Operator
        Operator April 13 2020 14: 58 New
        -27
        Measure the temperature, take the coronavirus test and stop raving: the contract with the Outskirts for gas pumping provides for an accumulative procedure for calculating the gas volume - in the spring-summer period the volume is minimal and the surcharge is actually an advance payment of the maximum gas volume in the autumn-winter period.

        A pumping contract with Outskirts is needed only to fulfill gas supply contracts with European countries. After commissioning of SP-2, the contract with Outskirts will be disposed of as a pipifax.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 April 13 2020 15: 02 New
        -18
        Quote: donavi49
        SP-2 covered

        Hmm, there’s either a blatant lie or a clumsy phrase.request.
        Quote: donavi49
        went a couple of years into the distance.

        And here again someone's Wishlist.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 April 13 2020 16: 38 New
          +5
          Phrase - SP2 launch under the tree, and there Naftogaz is not needed especially and you can squeeze out the conditions.

          Really - left for a couple of years.

          And here again someone's Wishlist.


          Well, for now, after the departure of the Swiss, 0.0% of the work has been done.
        2. Kronos
          Kronos April 13 2020 16: 42 New
          +2
          After all, the facts did not complete it
      3. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan April 13 2020 19: 02 New
        -2
        Quote: donavi49
        I had to urgently run to Kiev and without any compromises, to conclude a rigid contract with payments for claims (and once they were paid for them, then they will probably have to be paid for new ones) and according to the "download or pay" formula for a fixed amount.

        Naftogaz, by the way, plans to bring a new lawsuit against Gazprom in the amount of more than $ 17 billion.
        "Wedding table. Everyone is drunk. Suddenly a man comes out from under the table and asks:" Who has not yet had a bride? After a while, a guy with glasses raises his head from the table and answers: "Me." Who are you? " Groom! - Fuck off, you still have time. "
    3. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs April 13 2020 15: 53 New
      -1
      Is it possible hidden saw with kickbacks.
      1. Moon
        Moon April 14 2020 07: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Alex Nevs
        Is it possible hidden saw with kickbacks.

        The gas business of presidents (C) is a certain president.
        One hundred years at lunch this kind of high-ranking kickback.
    4. Lister
      Lister April 13 2020 17: 44 New
      12
      Quote: rotkiv04
      This is the hpp

      there is no hpp. there is an agreement with our "partners" (they surrendered to us) that Russia is obliged to let a certain amount of gas through the territory of Ukraine. Why did we agree ... Maybe there is a fifth column in Gazprom? request
    5. GRIGORIY76
      GRIGORIY76 April 13 2020 18: 38 New
      0
      You don’t understand nikert, you don’t have all the information, in fact Putin outplayed everyone.
      1. Comrade Michael
        Comrade Michael April 14 2020 08: 14 New
        +1
        A valid joke. Well, we, commoners, just beat ...)
    6. lis-ik
      lis-ik April 13 2020 22: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: rotkiv04
      This is KPP, it’s just not everyone can understand it, except for the GDP itself

      Oh well in FIG. You are just a liberal and an agent of the State Department, it is said that you defeated everyone. So you won.
      1. Comrade Michael
        Comrade Michael April 14 2020 08: 15 New
        +2
        All-creeper still ... A true patriot should be boastful or constantly in pink clouds to soar ...
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 April 13 2020 14: 35 New
    +3
    Maybe 190 million?
    1. Stena
      Stena April 13 2020 14: 57 New
      -9
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Maybe 190 million?

      Why what there - let them write trillions.
      Paper can stand it.
      Conveniently. Real conditions and agreements - are not indicated in the general access - that means - you can interpret them as you like. You can even write a defeatist article in the morning, and in the evening a laudatory article, or vice versa.
      But in fact - time will tell. Let’s take a look at the situation in 5 years. When the current contract for gas transit expires.
      1. svoit
        svoit April 13 2020 16: 25 New
        -3
        Quote: Stena
        Why what there - let them write trillions.
        Paper can stand it.

        Well, if you look from the other side?
        Last year, Europe drove gas at a very decent price, so all the storages to the eyeballs, but now it would be better not to pump at all, but simply to pay to Ukraine, because selling gas is now not profitable (and contract volume obligations already go last year fulfilled and for part of this). Let it stay for some time at our storage facilities, there will be a price of $ 250, then we will sell it.
        By the way, since there is a "download or pay", then "take or pay" also go and no one canceled?
        1. Stena
          Stena April 13 2020 17: 45 New
          -3
          Quote: svoit
          Well, if you look from the other side?

          There are no other parties - there is an incompleteness of information and a momentary desire to make a sensation.
          PS The Russian Federation has strategically won both in oil and in gas.
          The result will be visible in a few years.
          PSS Minus - not mine.
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  4. IC
    IC April 13 2020 14: 40 New
    12
    Ordinary people are not given the opportunity to understand the essence of the agreements concluded by the most effective Gazprom managers under the leadership of the best government. Not for nothing that Miller has been leading and receiving the appropriate salary for so many years
    1. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi April 13 2020 15: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: IMS
      Not for nothing that Miller has been leading and receiving the appropriate salary for so many years

      Duc ... Chubais nest chick .... Leningrad school of reformers .... The helmsman does not offend his ...
  5. Mastodon
    Mastodon April 13 2020 14: 46 New
    10
    and overpaying for this time 190 billion dollars.

    Well, now it’s clear why the Outskirts and the USA grabbed this pipe with a death grip and block the Sevren flow .. We actually keep the Nazi regime ourselves .. Very convenient and offensive, especially when the Donbass is bombed every day
  6. Scipio
    Scipio April 13 2020 14: 48 New
    10
    What you need to know about the leaders of the public domain! Well done, you know how to negotiate
    1. awdrgy
      awdrgy April 13 2020 15: 01 New
      +1
      Managers of the public domain is strong! Right now, how are we going to get the task together, set them a schedule for execution, give the people control Yeah, with a baton, ho-ho, not ho-ho?)))
      1. Scipio
        Scipio April 13 2020 15: 06 New
        +8
        Of course, we will do just that) at the same time we will increase the prices for ourselves)
    2. Lister
      Lister April 13 2020 17: 47 New
      15
      Quote: Scipio
      What you need to know about the leaders of the public domain!

      This is no longer a public asset ... This is the property of a handful of oligarchs ...
  7. rudolff
    rudolff April 13 2020 14: 54 New
    17
    We have a lot of cunning in the leadership of the country. It is a pity that very few are smart.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 13 2020 16: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: rudolff
      We have a lot of cunning in the leadership of the country. It’s a pity that very few smart ones ...

      ... principled and honest statesmen ... yes
  8. Andrea
    Andrea April 13 2020 14: 54 New
    +2
    It may compensate for losses if in Europe there is someone who by that time will consume gas. The storages at them and at us (which are in Europe) even after winter are filled to capacity and gas consumption has fallen. Urgently need to treat Europeans, and ourselves too ...
  9. Old partisan
    Old partisan April 13 2020 14: 55 New
    +7
    I always said the violinist is not needed.
  10. Altona
    Altona April 13 2020 14: 59 New
    11
    I wrote about this earlier, the new contract under which Gazprom was bent is extremely disadvantageous for it. Previously, Gazprom had an advantageous take-or-pay rule, that is, the consumer had to pay for the entire agreed volume of gas, regardless of need. And now the situation has unfolded exactly the opposite, allegedly Gazprom imposed "discriminatory monopoly conditions" and he was put in the well-known knee-elbow position with the "SP-2" freeze.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 13 2020 16: 55 New
      +1
      By the end of the year, joint venture 2 will be completed - the necessary ships on the way to the gas pipeline.
  11. Odysseus
    Odysseus April 13 2020 15: 00 New
    21
    To sell gas at a loss is an enchanting quality of management ....
    Although there is no why at a loss .... Here is the latest news- "The Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS) of Russia has proposed to raise gas prices for the population by three percent from July 1, 2020.".
    "Dear Russians" will pay for everything ....
    P / S. And how they breathed, how they breathed. How many assurances there were that we would not pay Maidan Ukraine, how many great gas "peremogs" were broadcast on television. Yes, only on VO I remember dozens of articles and thousands of comments about races on an empty tube. Where are all these authors and commentators ...
    1. awdrgy
      awdrgy April 13 2020 15: 22 New
      +1
      And I wrote, you can’t sell people's resources. Gazprom didn’t listen to me. And at the same time to all of us
      1. DMB 75
        DMB 75 April 13 2020 15: 40 New
        15
        Quote: awdrgy
        "Dear Russians" will pay for everything ....

        It's like drinking. These "effective" managers do not know how to work otherwise, except to cover losses in the external market at the expense of the internal consumer.
        1. Lister
          Lister April 13 2020 17: 47 New
          14
          Quote: DMB 75
          These "effective" managers do not know how to work otherwise

          This is their policy. They believe that our people will be able to cover all their expenses.
  12. yfast
    yfast April 13 2020 15: 03 New
    10
    I wonder who will cover these losses. Will they be deducted from Miller’s bonus or a fine will be imposed on the Supreme? Probably no one has ever been able to merge popular good.
    1. Lister
      Lister April 13 2020 17: 48 New
      16
      Quote: yfast
      I wonder who will cover these losses.

      They will lay the losses on the shoulders of the people.
      Quote: yfast
      probably nobody knew how to merge popular good

      They do not consider the bowels of the property of the Russian people. They act in the interests of the West.
  13. Dmitry_24rus
    Dmitry_24rus April 13 2020 15: 08 New
    14
    Hooray! We all the same endured life. But there is a way out: you can increase gas prices once again for domestic use.
    1. Looking for
      Looking for April 13 2020 15: 20 New
      +4
      And in Ukraine, Russians only call it that. And they laugh !!!
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 13 2020 17: 00 New
        -2
        It’s interesting as they call themselves - the sale of Ukraine continues at full speed already and the whole country is put up for sale. The country is head over heels in debt - the IMF, the positional war in the Donbass continues.
      2. Lister
        Lister April 13 2020 17: 48 New
        12
        Quote: Seeker
        And they laugh !!!

        Laughter for no reason ... Castrolegolov let them laugh at their own position. Especially above the ground ...
    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 April 13 2020 15: 28 New
      +3
      [Quote] [/ quote]
      What the last 20 years have been doing in the gas monopoly
  14. Chingachguk
    Chingachguk April 13 2020 15: 28 New
    +6
    Does Gazprom have its own personal oil in the bowels of the Russian land? Which sheep made the contract without foreseeing force majeure circumstances? Almost 200 lyam tanks gave Kaklam! At whose expense is the banquet !? With whose salary will these pennies be deducted?
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 April 13 2020 15: 35 New
      +4
      18 trillion rub. waiting to be mastered ...
    2. Lister
      Lister April 13 2020 17: 48 New
      15
      Quote: Chingachguk
      At whose expense is the banquet !?

      By increasing fuel prices. That is, at the expense of the people of Russia.
      1. Chingachguk
        Chingachguk April 13 2020 17: 53 New
        +1
        Then it’s clear ...... And many say that Stalin should not be resurrected. what
  15. xomaNN
    xomaNN April 13 2020 15: 35 New
    +7
    Only in delirium and with a binge could Miller and the comp. agree with the condition "Download, don't download - BUT pay!"

    Directly: "Fighting Ukrainian Nanai boys under the rug" am
  16. 16112014nk
    16112014nk April 13 2020 15: 44 New
    10
    The Russian company hopes that before the end of the year ... it will compensate for its losses.
    Yes, perhaps as before. Since June 1, gas prices have been rising by 3%.
  17. reader65
    reader65 April 13 2020 16: 03 New
    +9
    In Russia, 1 million people had to retire annually, starting in 2020. With a pension of $ 200, that's 200 million monthly. Just the money donated for the maintenance of the enemy regime. Those. pre-pensioners with their lives are paying for the decisions of effective managers and the Tsar, whose interests are behind the hill. The genocide of the Russian people in action.
    Well, what do you call these cattle from Gazprom and the Kremlin, concluding such agreements?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 13 2020 17: 09 New
      -3
      Gazprom - he does not pay pensions, he only deducts pensions to his workers in the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation, pensioners in Russia 46 million - and since the pension system is a cumulative distribution "common boiler", each pensioner from the $ 200 million announced by you will receive in pensions - $ 4,3 per snout per month ... The supplements will help you a lot - no answer is required.
      1. NKT
        NKT April 13 2020 18: 08 New
        +1
        Gazprom has its own pension program. Upon retirement, a person receives about 8-12 salaries (depending on the position) + a pension starts to be paid, which also depends on the position ... an average of 40t
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      3. reader65
        reader65 April 13 2020 19: 13 New
        0
        I mean that the money donated to the hostile country by Gazprom would allow not to carry out anti-human pension reform.
    2. Chingachguk
      Chingachguk April 13 2020 18: 01 New
      -1
      The main thing is not to forget the words - KREMLIN, Beyond the hill, Tsar, GENOCIDE OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE, PENSIONERS PAY FOR LIVES, MODE and further on ..... wassat
      Who pays your salary, COMMERCIAL? laughing wink
      How many pensioners died specifically from this transaction?
      Which king has interests beyond the hill, and why does this king today have both this hill and the tail and mane?
      And the agreement is certainly harmful for Russia and with anyone else !!!!!! I would generally forget about this country for a while! Let them jump to the end!
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  18. Guards turn
    Guards turn April 13 2020 16: 33 New
    -1
    The gas pipeline must be handed over to the military, because it is a strategic object, so let Shoigu be in charge and give him SP-2 when the construction is completed.
  19. primaala
    primaala April 13 2020 16: 35 New
    -2
    In place of Miller, a very competent leader worked. Specialist in his field.
    I will not give his last name (in order to protect him). You cannot imagine how competent the employee was. And suddenly out of nowhere !!! Miller's "amoeba" appeared. (with difficulty speaking head).
    For what??? and for what purpose ??? moved the head office of "gazprom" to St. Petersburg ???
    What kind of business executive is this ??? WHO prolonged it ??? This Miller ???
    Is the GDP not aware of what is happening in the "kingdom" of oil / gas workers and the country's energy industry ???
    Why CHANGE in the powerful power plants of competent specialist managers, for amateurs ???
    As far as I am objective (to events), I am so indignant at such actions .....
    Does he really know very little !? It’s strange.
    (Speech specifically about Siberian oil and gas companies and a powerful energy system)
    1. Leshy1975
      Leshy1975 April 13 2020 17: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: primaala
      In place of Miller, a very competent leader worked. Specialist in his field.
      I will not give his last name (in order to protect him). You cannot imagine how competent the employee was. And suddenly out of nowhere !!! Miller's "amoeba" appeared. (with difficulty speaking head).
      For what??? and for what purpose ??? moved the head office of "gazprom" to St. Petersburg ???
      What kind of business executive is this ??? WHO prolonged it ??? This Miller ???
      Is the GDP not aware of what is happening in the "kingdom" of oil / gas workers and the country's energy industry ???
      Why CHANGE in the powerful power plants of competent specialist managers, for amateurs ???
      As far as I am objective (to events), I am so indignant at such actions .....
      Does he really know very little !? It’s strange.
      (Speech specifically about Siberian oil and gas companies and a powerful energy system)

      Alla, please, stop the GDP already. Well, after all, someone is already swept away over GDP, who is just still angry with him. And only a few, unfortunately, including you, continue to wring their hands
      Does he really know very little !?

      Yes, he knows everything perfectly and knows and participates in all this mess. Vertical, in all its glory. Save your nerves, or else there will be.
      1. primaala
        primaala April 13 2020 17: 52 New
        -4
        Yes, he knows everything perfectly and knows and participates in all this mess.
        =====================
        HE cleverly displaces this "mess" ...
        As there the people say: "Niuchi father and basta !!!"
        You keep shouting "gasoline is getting more expensive". The question does not arise !? WHO is behind the price increase ???
        Oil workers ADD black gold.
        Those who privatized PROCESSING, ask those from those !!!
        with "lukoil ask (for a start).
        I’m sure you didn’t understand the hint.
    2. NKT
      NKT April 13 2020 18: 19 New
      +4
      Are you talking about Medvedev? Miller succeeded Medvedev as chairman of the board of directors.
      1. primaala
        primaala April 13 2020 18: 42 New
        0
        Quote: NKT
        Are you talking about Medvedev? Miller succeeded Medvedev as chairman of the board of directors.

        NO. Medvedev has nothing to do with the oil industry.
        It's about Gazprom. (Siberian company).
        And led to Miller - a true specialist in his field.
        1. NKT
          NKT April 13 2020 19: 31 New
          +6
          What are Siberian companies? Gazprom is the former USSR Ministry of Gas Industry. Minister of the gas industry and became the first chairman of the board of Gazprom - Chernomyrdin. Then there was Vyakhirev, then Medvedev.
          1. primaala
            primaala April 13 2020 19: 34 New
            -3
            Quote: NKT
            What are Siberian companies? Gazprom is the former USSR Ministry of Gas Industry. Minister of the gas industry and became the first chairman of the board of Gazprom - Chernomyrdin. Then there was Vyakhirev, then Medvedev.

            And today the Siberian company "carries" the name. gazprom.
            The topic is closed.
      2. primaala
        primaala April 13 2020 18: 48 New
        -2
        I will add. Siberian oil / gas companies were united into a single concern "Gazprom" under the leadership of now Miller. BEFORE ... things were a little different. A large enterprise of the Siberian "Gazprom" was run by a competent specialist (whose name I do not name). But they could have left him during the reorganization ...... Why not him !? for many it is interesting to know the answer.
  20. Fishery
    Fishery April 13 2020 17: 42 New
    -2
    Well, let not pump)))) if everything is so bad)
  21. marchcat
    marchcat April 13 2020 17: 52 New
    +6
    It seems that Gazprom has become the property of Ukraine ... fool
  22. IL-64
    IL-64 April 13 2020 18: 18 New
    -1
    After a year, it is time for the European court to challenge the enslaving terms of the agreement with Ukraine. In hindsight of course
  23. Woldemar
    Woldemar April 13 2020 18: 34 New
    +6
    It turns out very "fun". So the formula "take or pay", for Ukraine, the arbitration court found illegal, and the formula "download or pay" was quietly drawn up in the agreement, with the assistance of our European friends. Gazprom has got a glorious win, a very glorious one.
    1. Avior
      Avior April 13 2020 21: 54 New
      0
      It’s just oversimplified
      Actually another system
      Gazprom buys for a certain period the capacity of the pipeline to pump 60 billion cubic meters
      It's like an apartment, if you rented, you need to pay. Even if you don’t live in it
  24. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow April 13 2020 19: 01 New
    -4
    So what??? Sunflower seeds in the market have risen in price? Did the bread in the shops disappear? I read the comments and remember, Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side. Already crazy about self-isolation.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 13 2020 19: 10 New
      -3
      It’s just that some have a running brain lumbar - after 91 years, the disease progresses.
    2. Alexey Z
      Alexey Z April 13 2020 19: 35 New
      +3
      Seeds in the market disappeared, bread in the store went up. Perhaps it will be more correct.
    3. Comrade Michael
      Comrade Michael April 14 2020 08: 25 New
      -1
      Yes have risen in price, and not only seeds. And yes, a strategist, we win our battles. And if we lose, we do not spread responsibility and do not hide, and yes, the army of trolls does not protect us ....
  25. serggb
    serggb April 13 2020 19: 40 New
    +1
    And the feeling of great disgust is not necessary to have any business with today's Ukraine. "Don't touch it ... it doesn't smell."
    1. Mastodon
      Mastodon April 13 2020 19: 45 New
      -4
      Quote: serggb
      And the feeling of great disgust is not necessary to have any business with today's Ukraine. "Don't touch it ... it doesn't smell."

      Well, just the opposite, we will catch them sooner or later negative
      USA doesn't last forever wink
      And then "what pidmanula to me?" ..
      And oh wei come here !!! laughing
      1. serggb
        serggb April 13 2020 19: 51 New
        -2
        It will be difficult to do this without guarantee of the result.
        1. Mastodon
          Mastodon April 13 2020 20: 02 New
          -4
          Quote: serggb
          It will be difficult to do this without guarantee of the result.

          Well, in Russia, if you set a goal, then nothing is impossible ..
          If I'm wrong, kick me in the heart hi
  26. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich April 13 2020 19: 44 New
    -1
    When is Gazprom bully negotiated the pumping of gas through the Ukrainian GTS - I commented - "With Ukraine wassat it is more profitable NOT TO HAVE BUSINESS ". Immediately it would be necessary to lay SP-3, 4, 5 ...
    1. Mastodon
      Mastodon April 13 2020 20: 26 New
      -6
      Quote: cat Rusich
      When is Gazprom bully negotiated the pumping of gas through the Ukrainian GTS - I commented - "With Ukraine wassat it is more profitable NOT TO HAVE BUSINESS ". Immediately it would be necessary to lay SP-3, 4, 5 ...

      Yes, we’ve been trying for what year, but the USA clung to this gas pipeline on the outskirts .. It is beneficial for Russia to pay and suffer!
      It will be seen there, but for now we are paying Kiev and supporting their aggressive policy against us .. Funny? But nowhere to go ..
      And they still bring claims against us and win .. Well, nothing, not long left .. Here we will talk, or rather we will be silent at all ..

      Do you think this will not happen?
      1. Comrade Michael
        Comrade Michael April 14 2020 08: 30 New
        -1
        No, this will not happen. Stop practicing self-deception.
  27. flicker
    flicker April 13 2020 20: 51 New
    -3
    Gas transit through Ukraine brings significant losses to Gazprom

    Nothing, soon everything will pay off handsomely bully
  28. mortido
    mortido April 13 2020 20: 54 New
    +2
    And what are you all Miller, yes Miller .... the main one is who we have ...? It’s from him that you have to ask him about zero, he appoints and "controls" them all. And then again the Tsar is good for us, but the boyars are bad
  29. Klingon
    Klingon April 13 2020 21: 04 New
    0
    Quote: Tonya
    Miller is a common German surname with the meaning "miller", may be of English origin (English Miller) or go back to the old Russian transmission ü as in the German surname, which is now referred to as Müller (German Müller) and can be found in this form Russified Germans. but in general you are of course an expert))))) in German and Yiddish this is a miller) total)) German Jew, German, Englishman, choose who prevents you from living more))

    Py sy- Miller never saw Jews)))) Schneider is full, but there are no Millers))

    it is obvious that you do not know the German language of shopping mall. German Mill Mühle. Accordingly, Müller is a miller. not Miller. I just interviewed my German colleagues at work, both from the native Baden-Alemans and from the north (Hamburg). Nobody ever heard the name Miller. and you will prove something to me. this is the same bike as Stirlitz. there was no such surname. but there is Stieglitz-Steglitz (Steglitz) now Schneider (Schneider) by the way is also a German surname. But Schneidmann (Schneidman) is already Jewish
    1. Avior
      Avior April 13 2020 21: 57 New
      0
      What she says is a quote from Wikipedia
      https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Миллер
      This is a German surname, even though your friends have never encountered
      1. Ua3qhp
        Ua3qhp April 15 2020 09: 42 New
        0
        Yeah
        Olton Glenn Miller was born March 1, 1904 in the town of Clarinda, in the southwestern part of Iowa Corn State, into a poor Jewish family. His ancestors were American pioneers who traveled to the west of the continent in the middle of the XNUMXth century in search of a better life. The photograph of Glenn's parents resembles Grant Wood’s famous painting “American Gothic” - a half-length portrait of an ascetic-looking farmer (pitchfork in hand) with his wife against the background of his house.
        https://jew-observer.com/kultura/ego-zhiznyu-byl-dzhaz/
  30. iouris
    iouris April 13 2020 22: 52 New
    +1
    Brzezinski said: "The new world order will be built on the rubble of Gazprom and at the expense of Gazprom." By the way, who owns Gazprom and Gazprom-media?
  31. Sergey Novitsky
    Sergey Novitsky April 14 2020 00: 46 New
    +1
    Suckers shameful, because of them, and Russia as a sucker ...
  32. Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael April 14 2020 08: 00 New
    -1
    Yes, it’s HPP, we’ll find out about the essence of this tricky plan when gas and gas prices increase inside of us ...)
  33. Sergey Rudov
    Sergey Rudov April 14 2020 12: 32 New
    0
    It’s interesting, but Vitrenko comes to the conclusion that as soon as the Nord Stream is completed, Ukraine will lose 600 million annually.
  34. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova April 14 2020 18: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Lister
    This proves that pests have dug in Gazprom.

    The adoption of such decisions is somewhat wider than the scope of Gazprom. And even - the Ministry of Energy.
  35. arsenks
    arsenks April 14 2020 23: 01 New
    0
    And no one says that Gazprom is a state-owned company and that the population of the country will receive less of these losses, for which it is not easy now ... And why is this happening, because one stupid person is trying to collapse shale production, another concludes obviously unfavorable contracts .. ..And that the tsar doesn't give a damn about it - "the rich get richer, the poor get poorer" everything is normal ...
    1. Ugolek
      Ugolek April 15 2020 05: 29 New
      0
      Can anyone clearly answer why the price of gas depends on the price of oil?
  36. Igor Dvornikov
    Igor Dvornikov April 15 2020 10: 00 New
    0
    But what salaries do managers have ....