Ukrainian generals and admirals allowed to serve up to 70 years

The Ukrainian president has amended the Regulations on the passage of military service. We are talking about the legislative norm, which provides for age regulations for service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

So, in the new version of the Regulation there is no norm for the previous restriction on the extension of the service life "for experienced professionals." In other words, if in the Ukrainian army a specialist is recognized as experienced, then he can extend the contracts without any previous restrictions. And, on this basis, the contract can be extended for up to five years in excess of the age limit for service.

At the same time, questions arose regarding the parameters for determining the experience of some and the lack of experience of others.

The revision of the age limit for general service also applies to the new norm.

The Regulation states that for Ukrainian generals and admirals the age limit for service (including in the military reserve) is 65 years. Now, if we are guided by the norm on the possible extension of the deadline by five years, then for generals and admirals of the army and fleet Ukraine, the age limit for service will be 70 years.

This publication in the Ukrainian media about the decision of Vladimir Zelensky caused a mixed reaction in Ukrainian society. Some consider this measure to be necessary, but correct, while others are confident that it will complicate the promotion process for young officers.

Comments

[Doccor18]

The president of Uraina proposes, and the virus disposes.

[210ox]

Yes, and do not care. What is there and what time. Maxim died, to hell with him.

[Well done]

The true admiral is square.

[Lipchanin]

This is the "first swallow"
Now the main flock will fly

[Well done]

No comment.

[tol100v]

Quote: Doccor18

The president of Uraina proposes, and the virus disposes.

And please, please separate the Virus and the President, on whom nothing depends by definition!

[Lelek]

Quote: Tol100v

And let's please separate the virus and the president

Ah ... let's go. The president (he is the hetman) came, left and left no trace. And he is such a "virus" that it forces all earthlings to hide in burrows-apartments, do squats in splendid isolation and empty refrigerators and buffets with amazing speed, and also, without making a minimum of effort, made a favorite for millions of "people" a small device - WiFi ...

[Doccor18]

The president of Ukraine and the virus have not so little in common. They both arose from nowhere, and ... soon disappear into nothing.
However, now both with a crown.

[Well done]

The definition of the President is like WWW on the net. We do not notice him, but he is. And vote)

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

In Ukraine, generals did not earn a pension.

[Catholic]

What is their pension? For the war against Donbass, they earned a scaffold.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

In Ukraine, generals did not earn a pension.

Have they swung at the "sacred", at the "nenku"?

[Thrifty]

These newly minted degenerals will be awarded with a name pan, tightly brewing it under the throat of the d-General who received epaulets !

[30143]

Listen, gentlemen, how can you not offend ... But the Ukrainian army (nikakosova) still did not allow the Russian Federation to capture Novorossia.
The motivation is different, different from the Russian one (predatory). Moreover, there is a group of provocateurs who is rocking - provoking the situation, and then ... oppa, and the Russian army is drawn into the conflict.
The campaign of Girkin and Co. is a confirmation of this.
Well, time will put everything in its place. I think that they will not be silent for 75 years.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: 30143

Motivation is different

It’s completely different.

Quote: 30143

time will put everything

In this case, punitive psychiatry will put everything in place.

[Lopatov]

Quote: 30143

But the Ukrainian army (nikakosova) still did not allow the Russian Federation to capture Novorossia.

Quote: 30143

The motivation is different, different from the Russian one (predatory).

Punitive motivation. Kill a peaceful man so that he expels the wrong citizens of Ukraine to Russia. Those who do not want to, wearing lace panties under a black and red banner, go to Europe. If they accept.

Let's call a spade a spade. They came to kill dissidents and got a lot of teeth. Now they are sitting in the trenches, stupidly decaying. Bukhaya, selling mine maps of mine fields for her money, doing looting. As an entertainment, killing young girls ... Worthy guys, heroic ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 30143

But the Ukrainian army (nikakosova) still did not allow the Russian Federation to capture Novorossia.

This is not the wrong Russian Army was not allowed to capture which the war never appeared?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 30143

The motivation is different, different from the Russian (predatory)

Well, of course, another
Show a similar photo of the LDNR soldier, or Russian

[30143]

So did this warrior stop Girkin’s campaign? AND?

[Lopatov]

Quote: 30143

Well, time will put everything in its place.

Exactly ...
The people who seized power did not just try to maximize the number of Ukrainians in the blood of their fellow citizens ... So now these ... heroes will do anything not to be responsible for their actions. Therefore, they will fight for the interests of the breeders to the last.
They will order, they will cut Lviv residents, and they will order people from Kiev. They will order pro-Russian, they will order pro-European. For your shirt is closer to the body.

[cat Rusich]

Can you remind me how many recruits in the Armed Forces of Ukraine come to the military registration and enlistment office on the agenda? - a general can "serve" as long as he can put on a uniform with a general's shoulder straps.

[Vadim Golubkov]

Apart from Girkin, Aleksandrov, Erofeev, can you list the names of 20 captured Russian soldiers captured during the 6 years of the war? And why, then, when exchanging prisoners, they change the Ukrainian to the Ukrainian?

[Incvizitor]

did not allow the Russian Federation to seize Novorossia.

Is the Russian Federation trying to capture New Russia?

Russian (predatory)

predatory activity is when they climbed into a different country (Novorossia).

The campaign of Girkin and Co. is a confirmation of this.

Confirmation that the Russian Federation attacked?
And the volunteers of the whole world who went to protect the peaceful people from Bandera, confirmation that the whole world attacked?

[Sandor Clegane]

Some consider such a measure forced

- this is how she may be forced ??? oh, this Ukraine))

[cost]

this is how she may be forced ??? oh, this Ukraine))

Than what? Ordinary Kiev parrot. How is it, Muscovites can, but we can not? Well, quickly fix this gap. Yes, with overfulfillment - not only the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but all in a row. Well, Peremoga

reference:
In Russia, you can now serve in the Ministry of Internal Affairs up to 70 years. The corresponding law was signed on August 4, 2019 by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The document increases the age limit for employees of internal affairs bodies: from 60 to 65 years for lieutenant generals and major generals, from 55 to 60 years old - for colonels, and up to 55 years old - for majors and lieutenant colonels.
Moreover, after reaching the age limit for another five years, you can conclude new contracts with employees who have a positive last certification and proper state of health.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Rich

Ordinary Kiev parrot

this is not a cause, but a consequence)))

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Rich

this is how she may be forced ??? oh, this Ukraine))

Than what? Ordinary Kiev parrot. How is it, Muscovites can, but we can not? Well, quickly fix this gap. Yes with overfulfillment - not only the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but all in a row. Well, Peremoga

Somehow not in Ukrainian ...
"To catch up and overtake" in Raguli is immediately up to 90 ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Somehow not in Ukrainian ...
"To catch up and overtake" in Raguli is immediately up to 90 ...

They would be happy to 90, but are not sure that Ukraine will exist to this advanced age. Here and up to 70 years, they do not hold out all while serving mattresses, i.e. without a fight, handing Ukraine star-striped.

[tol100v]

Quote: Rich

In Russia, you can now serve in the Ministry of Internal Affairs up to 70 years. The corresponding law was signed on August 4, 2019 by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

BUT! !! For some reason, specialists with a SPECIAL education of 45 YEARS are being retired from the current ranks of the fire department (MVD)! And for some reason their idiots-managers occupy their posts! And here is the question: Who and why removes specialists from the Fire Department of the Country!

[Arthur 85]

Um, what country do you live in? In Russia, this was a long time ago by the Ministry of Emergencies, and in Sumeria, as far as I remember, it was called exactly the same.

[asv363]

Fire department - maybe this is for the Ministry of Emergencies, and not for the Ministry of Internal Affairs?

[s9883300]

They do not serve in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but go to work. Read the police law.

[svp67]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

- this is how she may be forced ???

For years, lived for years ... people who are in good, "warm" places think about the future.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: svp67

people in good, "warm" places think about the future.

but this is the only common reason))

[4ekist]

What is the difference between the generals of the Arbat fortified district and the generals of the Podolsky district in Kuev?

[Arthur 85]

The Ministry of Defense in Kuev is not on Podil. On the hem was the school of communications, killed in 2000.

[Avior]

one hundred percent
keep the defenses of a warm place

[boss]

At us, it turns out that the first warm up places were fussed up to the stop.
Became a general - general to 70!
You give up to 100.
Well, up to 65 do not take generals, Schaub did not accumulate)

[orionvitt]

Quote: svp67

places think about the future.

There is a suggestion. Generals in Ukraine, oblige to serve for life. And then no problem.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

this is how she may be forced ???

Do not tear from the feeder

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Lipchanin

Do not tear from the feeder

so right away - life status for them and their family members, such as the boyars))

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

so right away - life status for them and their family members, such as the boyars))

I won’t be surprised if it comes to this

[tol100v]

Quote: Lipchanin

this is how she may be forced ???

Not always a feeding trough! Ine is always a benefit! Remember MARGELOV, who needed only the Airborne Forces !!!

[Lipchanin]

You haven’t messed up anything?
Compare Margelov with this gang
And the conversation is not about the Armed Forces of the USSR, but under-state with its under-army

[Amateur]

Savings however. Those who left will have to pay a pension. Plus the salaries of the new generals and admirals. And so - only the old. And then, you see, and these positions will be abolished together with the "non-profit army i chavny"

[Mountain shooter]

But why can't a grandson of a general become a marshal?
Because the marshal also has a grandson !!! Not much was allowed. It would be necessary to 80 ... what really there ...

[Mavrikiy]

Ukrainian generals and admirals allowed to serve up to 70 years

And it pleases. More they have experienced professionals, the more biomass they have per camisole unit, and it needs to be fed in geometric dimensions. Look at the faces of their generals, and what will become of them at 70? Farmers have no other reflexes, biology.

[TermNachTer]

The Ukrainian admirals and the general, and at the age of 80, will get the hell out of the budget trough.

[bober1982]

Yes, you can agree with you.
This decision, apparently, was made by the 70-year-old generals themselves, and not by Zelensky, he only voiced.
Something similar happened in 1992, when the newly organized Ukrainian army made changes about the age limit for military service, which mainly related to senior officers and generals, I really wanted all these former Soviet military leaders to stay at the newly formed feeding trough.

[TermNachTer]

Indeed, the plundering of the arsenals of the Soviet Army, accumulated over decades, had begun. It is even tentatively impossible to imagine how many billions of dollars of arms and military equipment sold over the years.

[bober1982]

The current 70-year-old Ukrainian generals - former graduates of Soviet military schools and academies, former members of the CPSU, sat on their pants and wiped at party meetings (including) Now they are ordinary crooks, they don’t want to leave a meager pension, it’s not interesting. So they cling as they can.

[boss]

Our non-former members of the CPSU and pants at the meetings you mentioned did not rub?
Do we have something different?
Or are there those under 55 who did not serve during the union?

[bober1982]

Quote: patron

Our non-former members of the CPSU and pants at the meetings you mentioned did not rub?

Ours, in 1992, they drove everyone, both the upper and the older, and the younger.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: bober1982

graduates of Soviet military schools and academies, former members of the CPSU, sat on their pants and wiped at party meetings (including) Now - these are ordinary rogues ... So they cling as they can.

The funniest thing will start when these rogues with stripes begin to impede the implementation of NATO standards: they will not be able to get admission and they will be swept out of service - that’s where the circus begins

[TermNachTer]

They are not threatened with a meager pension, so much has been stolen there that enough for the great-grandchildren is enough. More than ten generals are already known - official dollar millionaires. Despite the fact that they have served their motherland all their lives, for the meager salary of an officer.

[tol100v]

Quote: TermNachTER

. It is even tentatively impossible to imagine how many billions of dollars of arms and military equipment sold over the years.

And how much dirt from their mouths sounded towards Russia, it’s also impossible to imagine even tentatively! But according to UKROSMI more than the volume of excavated soil from the bottom of the Black Sea!

[knn54]

"We don't need the smart ones. We need the faithful."
Br. Strugatsky, "It is difficult to be God."

[HAM]

That's right --- experienced tankers only become experienced admirals by the age of 70 ...

[poquello]

Quote: HAM

That's right --- experienced tankers only become experienced admirals by the age of 70 ...

) so

[TermNachTer]

This one became faster because he participated in the ATO.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: poquello

Quote: HAM

That's right --- experienced tankers only become experienced admirals by the age of 70 ...

) so

And to the 80s - by pilots?

[tol100v]

Quote: HAM

That's right --- experienced tankers only become experienced admirals by the age of 70 ..

Yes, there is at least a military man in the sea, and in Germany from gynecologists, and right away to the ministers! I ask you not to give parallels!

[Arthur 85]

The foreman of the first article, having barely appeared with the help of Ursula, can already command the unit ...

[To be or not to be]

At 70, these "tankers" will not fit into a tank

[Normal ok]

How can one not recall the inspectors under the General Staff of the USSR))

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

You can’t clown to power, he always has April 1 (April Fool’s Day).

[boss]

Funny, and our commander in chief introduced this norm back in 19, and he has it on April 1 ?!
Why clown?
Well, well

[Lopatov]

Quote: patron

Funny, and our commander in chief introduced this norm back in 19

We have only a colonel general and up to 70 can serve

[boss]

No, well, if only Colonel General AND ABOVE is possible, then this is fundamentally changing the FSE)
God save the minusers!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

You can’t clown to power, he always has April 1 (April Fool’s Day)

Late

[Same lech]

Spit on Ukrainian generals ... much more important is ...

Girl and drone - Ukraine Maidana continues to kill

https://jpgazeta.ru/devushka-i-bespilotnik-ukraina-majdana-prodolzhaet-ubivat/?utm_source=politobzor.net

[cniza]

Now, if we are guided by the norm on the possible extension of the deadline by five years, then for generals and admirals of the army and navy of Ukraine the age limit for service will be 70 years.

Just wondering how many generals and admirals they have? If anyone has information, share it.

[Avior]

for 2018 is an acute shortage

.... Head of the Main Staff Directorate - Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Arthur Artemenko.

"In the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and the Armed Forces there are 174 positions of senior officers, in which 111 generals serve. Among them are 80 major generals, 25 lieutenant generals, 4 colonel generals and two generals of the Ukrainian army. officer corps - 174 positions of generals to the total number of personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (250 thousand persons) is 0,07% ...

such a misfortune, well, no one wants to be generals, what can you do, you need to extend

[Freeman]

Avior (Sergey) Today, 18: 03
for 2018, there is an acute shortage ... such a misfortune, no one wants to be generals, what can you do, you need to extend

It is not for nothing that Ukrainians are called "cunning".
A solution was found - a shortage of generals, will be replaced by senior warrant officers.

Here, a member of the leadership of the General Staff of the Armed Forces

[Avior]

this is probably tracing from the Americans, they have such a system for sergeants
looked at his biography, it became interesting how from the ensign, one can get to the headquarters
this was the very first sergeant under Yanukovych in 2012, and is still in the post, and I thought the whole headquarters was fired after 2014.
graduated from university, was in Sierra Leone and Iraq, then in Ukrainian, but I can understand, I think

Successfully completing the advanced training course (DLI ELC, Lackland AFB, San Antonio, Texas, USA, 2010), the course of commanding the sea infantry (USMC SOI "East", Camp Lejeune, Jacksonville, North Carolina, USA, 2010), the diver's course Підривників (FVP KPNU im. I. Ogіnka, metro Kamіnets-Podilsky, 2012), course instructors (BMATT, Military Academy, Vyskov, Czech Republic, 2012), the course of sergeants in the middle rivals for special training (Adv. VKSS NTU “KhPI”, metro Kharkiv, 2012, with a certificate of honor), a course of NATO Staff Sergeants (PSOTC, Camp Butmir, Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, 2014), a course to instill discernment and goodwill The first hour of NATO peacekeeping operations (PSOTC, Camp Butmir, Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, 2014), the NATO NATO course and the training course for NATO senior sergeants for the Western Rivne (NATO School, Oberammergau, FRN, 2017).

Vilno Volodina English my (ECL-72). Instructor with airborne training. Diver-driver ІІІ class, the right to carry out the robot on the surface and water.

Interestingly, but his salary is general or ensign?

[boss]

What to shield them then?
We still have more)

[Lipchanin]

In the Ukrainian army from 106 to 155 generals, but in the first 15 years of independence in Ukraine, 637 general ranks were awarded

In the Ukrainian army from 106 to 155 generals, but in the first 15 years of independence in Ukraine, 637 general ranks were awarded

The Ukrainian Navy will have 13 admirals and generals for three warships

The Supreme Commander-in-Chief decided that in the structure of the Armed Forces there will be 2 army generals, 9 colonel and admiral generals, 41 lieutenant general and vice admiral, 99 major generals and rear admirals, and only 151 general and admiral posts. As you know, at the moment in the Armed Forces of Ukraine 121 are the general and admiral posts.

The structure of the apparatus of the Ministry of Defense provides for 15 general posts. 34 General posts were created in the General Staff - in the apparatus, the main operational support department, armament, and the rear. 18 generals - in command of the Ground Forces. 20 generals - in the command of the Air Force, 13 admirals and generals in the command of the Navy. Another 22 generals lead other support and training areas. 3 generals - by the military service of law and order. Thus, 125 generals and admirals out of 151 are not in operational positions and do not directly manage troops or operational formations.
In the Navy one combat-ready ship of the marine zone. One. Plus two battalions of marine corps and artillery coast defense. Well, why are there 13 admirals and generals at once? How to explain this?
the list of generals and admirals is given according to the decree of the president http://www.president.gov.ua/documents/18795.html

[Avior]

in the first 15 years of independence in Ukraine, 637 general ranks were awarded

I suspect that in the 90s - early 2000s, the army was reduced and, according to tradition, the generals were given "for demobilization".

[Lipchanin]

Do you know now

[Avior]

or maybe I'm wrong

in the first 15 years, 637 general ranks were awarded. From the dynamics of the assignment of general ranks, an interesting conclusion can be drawn that the peak of the assignment of general ranks usually fell on the year of the presidential election (in this regard, the year 1999 was characteristic, when 76 general ranks were awarded).

but you're right, now you won’t tear it away, and nobody needs it anymore

[Lipchanin]

They don’t need it, and we all the more

[bober1982]

Quote: Avior

and according to tradition, the generals were given "for demobilization".

They gave the colonels demobilization, for sure, it was, for example, a major - he immediately retired as a colonel (assigned the rank), but they paid the pension as a major. As smart as a hundred monkeys.

[Avior]

I remember that they did in the Union

[Cat]

I remember that they did in the Union

Exactly, both during the Union and after. Moreover, if a person left the colonel’s position, then he was a colonel and a corresponding pensioner, and if with a lieutenant colonel he was also a colonel, but with a lower pension. But the term in stock or reserve increased.

[bober1982]

Quote: Avior

I remember that they did in the Union

Under the Union this was not and could not be.
The age limit for serving junior officers in the Soviet Army is 40 years, and in some cases, the captain officer was given the rank of major, thereby transferring him to the category of senior officer so that he would later enjoy all the benefits of a senior retired officer.
But, this practice was not of a mass nature, the more so colonels were not appropriated like that.

[Avior]

I do not have statistics on this subject, but while I served as a reset, this was in the regiment. From the captain, who did not get to the academy, to the majors on the demobilization, I saw more than once

[Freeman]

Quote: cniza

Now, if we are guided by the norm on the possible extension of the deadline by five years, then for generals and admirals of the army and navy of Ukraine the age limit for service will be 70 years.

Just wondering how many generals and admirals they have? If anyone has information, share it.

According to the website of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, for 2019 - 157 general posts.
They are replaced by 110 generals and 47 colonels.
Whether admirals enter here, I did not understand - most likely, yes.

source:
http://www.mil.gov.ua/news/2019/08/14/chi-tak-bagato-v-ukraini-generaliv/

Threat. I did not find more accurate numbers. There is a reform of the APU.

[Cat]

This is only MO. And there are policemen, the National Guard, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, etc. So the number of wide stripes is much larger.

[iouris]

Up to 60, the general loses the battle. Wisdom comes only after 60.

[Catholic]

And after 60 and after the lost battles will not come

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Catholic

And after 60 and after the lost battles will not come

Nowhere to come

[Cat]

general loses battles

The battles are lost by colonels and various majors there. Generals only win them

[iouris]

Quote: Gato

Colonels and various majors there lose the battles

... and the Supreme Commander turns the defeat of the colonel into his victory, and the colonels become generals.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

,, Ukrainian admirals ,, - sounds funny.

[Catholic]

Especially if you remember about their fleet

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Catholic

Especially if you remember about their fleet

And look at him

[Incvizitor]

They have much more admirals than warships.

[Chingachguk]

Well, this is understandable ...... School then these generals, Russian !!!! And now some clowns remained in Ukraine. They were taught to ride a carrot in a circle around a circus arena, and they are no longer capable of anything. Wedding generals in one word ...

[Pavel Patrashov]

admirals ... is there a fleet in this outskirts?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pavel Patrashov

admirals ... is there a fleet in this outskirts?

And why did they dig your sea?

[primala]

Another Maidan was organized near the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine - those who do not have land for sale, and "muzzles" were filled with those who did not have money to buy. ))

[Jarserge]

This is for someone specific Zelensky took off. Just check the age of the generals and it will become clear

[Astra wild]

From the fact that the tank admiral Voronchenko will serve up to 70 or even up to 80 years old ships they will not be added.

[Freeman]

Quote: Astra wild

From the fact that the tank admiral Voronchenko will serve up to 70 or even up to 80 years old ships they will not be added.

"Choy something", won't it be added?
Amers, on conservation, still have a lot of trash. Cheaper to push Ukraine than to spend money on storage.
Have you already forgotten about "this"?

[ODERVIT]

Serve before dementia ...

[Pardus]

Quote: ODERVIT

Serve before dementia ...

Dementia has long developed

[Arthur 85]

And you, as long as you do not serve, you are not fit for generals ... I wonder what should be in the head of the officer who gave the Soviet Oath to go to serve the Nazis?

[30143]

And what about the Russian oligarchs? Or do you insist that you have the power of the people? As the party nomenclature sat, it sits ... Take, at least Matvienko.

[Arthur 85]

No, no, do not substitute concepts. In / in Ukraine fascism. Zelensky's arrival did not change anything (which I did not doubt one iota). That is, everyone who remains in any paramilitary structures, in the military-industrial complex, in the civil service - starting from the 14th year, they are direct accomplices. Spit on the memory of their ancestors. Please do not give examples of "nothing to feed the family" with. That is not why people go to the army.

[sanik2020]

Ukrainian generals and admirals allowed to serve up to 70 years

And it’s better immediately to the grave board, or to Alzheimer's.

[sgr291158]

By the age of 70 they’ll just start to move their minds.

[Astra wild]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: 30143

But the Ukrainian army (nikakosova) still did not allow the Russian Federation to capture Novorossia.

This is not the wrong Russian Army was not allowed to capture which the war never appeared?

Therefore, they did not allow us to capture it because our army was not there yet. We reached Berlin, and Lviv will be much easier to reach.