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Ukrainian generals and admirals allowed to serve up to 70 years

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The Ukrainian president has amended the Regulations on the passage of military service. We are talking about the legislative norm, which provides for age regulations for service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


So, in the new version of the Regulation there is no norm for the previous restriction on the extension of the service life "for experienced professionals." In other words, if in the Ukrainian army a specialist is recognized as experienced, then he can extend the contracts without any previous restrictions. And, on this basis, the contract can be extended for up to five years in excess of the age limit for service.

At the same time, questions arose regarding the parameters for determining the experience of some and the lack of experience of others.

The revision of the age limit for general service also applies to the new norm.

The Regulation states that for Ukrainian generals and admirals the age limit for service (including in the military reserve) is 65 years. Now, if we are guided by the norm on the possible extension of the deadline by five years, then for generals and admirals of the army and fleet Ukraine, the age limit for service will be 70 years.

Ukrainian generals and admirals allowed to serve up to 70 years


This publication in the Ukrainian media about the decision of Vladimir Zelensky caused a mixed reaction in Ukrainian society. Some consider this measure to be necessary, but correct, while others are confident that it will complicate the promotion process for young officers.
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 12 2020 16: 53 New
    +5
    The president of Uraina proposes, and the virus disposes.
    1. 210ox
      210ox April 12 2020 17: 13 New
      15
      Yes, and do not care. What is there and what time. Maxim died, to hell with him.
      1. Well done
        Well done April 12 2020 18: 32 New
        +3

        The true admiral is square.
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            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 12 2020 19: 05 New
              +1
              This is the "first swallow" laughing
              Now the main flock will fly laughing
              1. Well done
                Well done April 12 2020 23: 41 New
                +2
                No comment. drinks
    2. tol100v
      tol100v April 12 2020 18: 08 New
      -1
      Quote: Doccor18
      The president of Uraina proposes, and the virus disposes.

      And please, please separate the Virus and the President, on whom nothing depends by definition!
      1. Lelek
        Lelek April 12 2020 19: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: Tol100v
        And let's please separate the virus and the president

        hi
        Ah ... let's go. The president (he is the hetman) came, left and left no trace. And he is such a "virus" that it forces all earthlings to hide in burrows-apartments, do squats in splendid isolation and empty refrigerators and buffets with amazing speed, and also, without making a minimum of effort, made a favorite for millions of "people" a small device - WiFi ... bully
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 April 12 2020 20: 30 New
        +3
        The president of Ukraine and the virus have not so little in common. They both arose from nowhere, and ... soon disappear into nothing.
        However, now both with a crown.
      3. Well done
        Well done April 13 2020 00: 12 New
        0
        The definition of the President is like WWW on the net. We do not notice him, but he is. And vote)
    3. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 April 12 2020 18: 40 New
      +1
      In Ukraine, generals did not earn a pension.
      1. Catholic
        Catholic April 12 2020 18: 53 New
        15
        What is their pension? For the war against Donbass, they earned a scaffold.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 12 2020 19: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
        In Ukraine, generals did not earn a pension.

        Have they swung at the "sacred", at the "nenku"?
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty April 12 2020 19: 52 New
      0
      These newly minted degenerals will be awarded with a name pan, tightly brewing it under the throat of the d-General who received epaulets lol !
      1. 30143
        30143 April 12 2020 20: 12 New
        -13
        Listen, gentlemen, how can you not offend ... But the Ukrainian army (nikakosova) still did not allow the Russian Federation to capture Novorossia.
        The motivation is different, different from the Russian one (predatory). Moreover, there is a group of provocateurs who is rocking - provoking the situation, and then ... oppa, and the Russian army is drawn into the conflict.
        The campaign of Girkin and Co. is a confirmation of this.
        Well, time will put everything in its place. I think that they will not be silent for 75 years.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 April 12 2020 21: 14 New
          +4
          Quote: 30143
          Motivation is different

          It’s completely different. laughing laughing laughing
          Quote: 30143
          time will put everything

          In this case, punitive psychiatry will put everything in place. yes wassat
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 12 2020 21: 15 New
          +4
          Quote: 30143
          But the Ukrainian army (nikakosova) still did not allow the Russian Federation to capture Novorossia.

          laughing laughing laughing

          Quote: 30143
          The motivation is different, different from the Russian one (predatory).

          Punitive motivation. Kill a peaceful man so that he expels the wrong citizens of Ukraine to Russia. Those who do not want to, wearing lace panties under a black and red banner, go to Europe. If they accept.

          Let's call a spade a spade. They came to kill dissidents and got a lot of teeth. Now they are sitting in the trenches, stupidly decaying. Bukhaya, selling mine maps of mine fields for her money, doing looting. As an entertainment, killing young girls ... Worthy guys, heroic ...
        3. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 12 2020 21: 25 New
          0
          Quote: 30143
          But the Ukrainian army (nikakosova) still did not allow the Russian Federation to capture Novorossia.

          This is not the wrong Russian Army was not allowed to capture which the war never appeared?
        4. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 12 2020 21: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: 30143
          The motivation is different, different from the Russian (predatory)

          Well, of course, another
          Show a similar photo of the LDNR soldier, or Russian
          1. 30143
            30143 April 13 2020 11: 48 New
            -1
            So did this warrior stop Girkin’s campaign? AND?
        5. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 12 2020 21: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: 30143
          Well, time will put everything in its place.

          Exactly ...
          The people who seized power did not just try to maximize the number of Ukrainians in the blood of their fellow citizens ... So now these ... heroes will do anything not to be responsible for their actions. Therefore, they will fight for the interests of the breeders to the last.
          They will order, they will cut Lviv residents, and they will order people from Kiev. They will order pro-Russian, they will order pro-European. For your shirt is closer to the body.
        6. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich April 12 2020 21: 38 New
          +1
          Can you remind me how many recruits in the Armed Forces of Ukraine come to the military registration and enlistment office on the agenda? - a general can "serve" as long as he can put on a uniform with a general's shoulder straps.
        7. Vadim Golubkov
          Vadim Golubkov April 13 2020 06: 12 New
          +1
          Apart from Girkin, Aleksandrov, Erofeev, can you list the names of 20 captured Russian soldiers captured during the 6 years of the war? And why, then, when exchanging prisoners, they change the Ukrainian to the Ukrainian?
        8. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor April 13 2020 11: 20 New
          0
          did not allow the Russian Federation to seize Novorossia.
          Is the Russian Federation trying to capture New Russia?
          Russian (predatory)
          predatory activity is when they climbed into a different country (Novorossia).
          The campaign of Girkin and Co. is a confirmation of this.

          Confirmation that the Russian Federation attacked?
          And the volunteers of the whole world who went to protect the peaceful people from Bandera, confirmation that the whole world attacked?
  2. Sandor Clegane
    Sandor Clegane April 12 2020 16: 54 New
    +4
    Some consider such a measure forced
    - this is how she may be forced ??? oh, this Ukraine))
    1. cost
      cost April 12 2020 17: 14 New
      +8
      this is how she may be forced ??? oh, this Ukraine))

      Than what? Ordinary Kiev parrot. yes How is it, Muscovites can, but we can not? sad Well, quickly fix this gap. yes Yes, with overfulfillment - not only the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but all in a row. Well, Peremoga laughing
      reference:
      In Russia, you can now serve in the Ministry of Internal Affairs up to 70 years. The corresponding law was signed on August 4, 2019 by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
      The document increases the age limit for employees of internal affairs bodies: from 60 to 65 years for lieutenant generals and major generals, from 55 to 60 years old - for colonels, and up to 55 years old - for majors and lieutenant colonels.
      Moreover, after reaching the age limit for another five years, you can conclude new contracts with employees who have a positive last certification and proper state of health.
      1. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane April 12 2020 17: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Rich
        Ordinary Kiev parrot

        this is not a cause, but a consequence)))
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A April 12 2020 17: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: Rich
        this is how she may be forced ??? oh, this Ukraine))

        Than what? Ordinary Kiev parrot. yes How is it, Muscovites can, but we can not? sad Well, quickly fix this gap. yes Yes with overfulfillment - not only the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but all in a row. Well, Peremoga laughing

        Somehow not in Ukrainian ...
        "To catch up and overtake" in Raguli is immediately up to 90 ...
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky April 12 2020 19: 11 New
          +2
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Somehow not in Ukrainian ...
          "To catch up and overtake" in Raguli is immediately up to 90 ...

          They would be happy to 90, but are not sure that Ukraine will exist to this advanced age. Here and up to 70 years, they do not hold out all while serving mattresses, i.e. without a fight, handing Ukraine star-striped.
      3. tol100v
        tol100v April 12 2020 18: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: Rich
        In Russia, you can now serve in the Ministry of Internal Affairs up to 70 years. The corresponding law was signed on August 4, 2019 by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

        BUT! !! For some reason, specialists with a SPECIAL education of 45 YEARS are being retired from the current ranks of the fire department (MVD)! And for some reason their idiots-managers occupy their posts! And here is the question: Who and why removes specialists from the Fire Department of the Country!
        1. Arthur 85
          Arthur 85 April 12 2020 20: 55 New
          +2
          Um, what country do you live in? In Russia, this was a long time ago by the Ministry of Emergencies, and in Sumeria, as far as I remember, it was called exactly the same.
        2. asv363
          asv363 April 12 2020 21: 22 New
          +1
          Fire department - maybe this is for the Ministry of Emergencies, and not for the Ministry of Internal Affairs?
      4. s9883300
        s9883300 April 12 2020 18: 25 New
        +1
        They do not serve in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but go to work. Read the police law.
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 12 2020 17: 17 New
      +6
      Quote: Sandor Clegane
      - this is how she may be forced ???

      For years, lived for years ... people who are in good, "warm" places think about the future.
      1. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane April 12 2020 17: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        people in good, "warm" places think about the future.

        but this is the only common reason))
      2. 4ekist
        4ekist April 12 2020 17: 48 New
        +7
        What is the difference between the generals of the Arbat fortified district and the generals of the Podolsky district in Kuev?
        1. Arthur 85
          Arthur 85 April 12 2020 20: 56 New
          0
          The Ministry of Defense in Kuev is not on Podil. On the hem was the school of communications, killed in 2000.
      3. Avior
        Avior April 12 2020 17: 55 New
        +3
        one hundred percent
        keep the defenses of a warm place
      4. boss
        boss April 12 2020 17: 59 New
        +3
        At us, it turns out that the first warm up places were fussed up to the stop.
        Became a general - general to 70!
        You give up to 100.
        Well, up to 65 do not take generals, Schaub did not accumulate)
      5. orionvitt
        orionvitt April 12 2020 18: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        places think about the future.

        There is a suggestion. Generals in Ukraine, oblige to serve for life. And then no problem. laughing
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 12 2020 17: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Sandor Clegane
      this is how she may be forced ???

      Do not tear from the feeder laughing
      1. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane April 12 2020 18: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Do not tear from the feeder

        so right away - life status for them and their family members, such as the boyars))
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 12 2020 18: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Sandor Clegane

          so right away - life status for them and their family members, such as the boyars))

          I won’t be surprised if it comes to this laughing
      2. tol100v
        tol100v April 12 2020 18: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        this is how she may be forced ???

        Not always a feeding trough! Ine is always a benefit! Remember MARGELOV, who needed only the Airborne Forces !!!
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 12 2020 18: 46 New
          -1
          You haven’t messed up anything?
          Compare Margelov with this gang
          And the conversation is not about the Armed Forces of the USSR, but under-state with its under-army
  3. Amateur
    Amateur April 12 2020 16: 57 New
    +1
    Savings however. Those who left will have to pay a pension. Plus the salaries of the new generals and admirals. And so - only the old. And then, you see, and these positions will be abolished together with the "non-profit army i chavny"
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 12 2020 16: 58 New
    +6
    But why can't a grandson of a general become a marshal?
    Because the marshal also has a grandson !!! Not much was allowed. It would be necessary to 80 ... what really there ...
  5. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 12 2020 17: 01 New
    -1
    Ukrainian generals and admirals allowed to serve up to 70 years
    And it pleases. More they have experienced professionals, the more biomass they have per camisole unit, and it needs to be fed in geometric dimensions. repeat Look at the faces of their generals, and what will become of them at 70? Farmers have no other reflexes, biology. request
  6. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer April 12 2020 17: 06 New
    +1
    The Ukrainian admirals and the general, and at the age of 80, will get the hell out of the budget trough.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 April 12 2020 17: 24 New
      +2
      Yes, you can agree with you.
      This decision, apparently, was made by the 70-year-old generals themselves, and not by Zelensky, he only voiced.
      Something similar happened in 1992, when the newly organized Ukrainian army made changes about the age limit for military service, which mainly related to senior officers and generals, I really wanted all these former Soviet military leaders to stay at the newly formed feeding trough.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer April 12 2020 17: 26 New
        +4
        Indeed, the plundering of the arsenals of the Soviet Army, accumulated over decades, had begun. It is even tentatively impossible to imagine how many billions of dollars of arms and military equipment sold over the years.
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 April 12 2020 17: 41 New
          +5
          The current 70-year-old Ukrainian generals - former graduates of Soviet military schools and academies, former members of the CPSU, sat on their pants and wiped at party meetings (including) Now they are ordinary crooks, they don’t want to leave a meager pension, it’s not interesting. So they cling as they can.
          1. boss
            boss April 12 2020 18: 03 New
            +4
            Our non-former members of the CPSU and pants at the meetings you mentioned did not rub?
            Do we have something different?
            Or are there those under 55 who did not serve during the union?
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 April 12 2020 18: 12 New
              -3
              Quote: patron
              Our non-former members of the CPSU and pants at the meetings you mentioned did not rub?

              Ours, in 1992, they drove everyone, both the upper and the older, and the younger.
          2. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell April 12 2020 18: 03 New
            +6
            Quote: bober1982
            graduates of Soviet military schools and academies, former members of the CPSU, sat on their pants and wiped at party meetings (including) Now - these are ordinary rogues ... So they cling as they can.

            The funniest thing will start when these rogues with stripes begin to impede the implementation of NATO standards: they will not be able to get admission and they will be swept out of service - that’s where the circus begins
          3. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer April 12 2020 18: 47 New
            +5
            They are not threatened with a meager pension, so much has been stolen there that enough for the great-grandchildren is enough. More than ten generals are already known - official dollar millionaires. Despite the fact that they have served their motherland all their lives, for the meager salary of an officer.
        2. tol100v
          tol100v April 12 2020 18: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: TermNachTER
          . It is even tentatively impossible to imagine how many billions of dollars of arms and military equipment sold over the years.

          And how much dirt from their mouths sounded towards Russia, it’s also impossible to imagine even tentatively! But according to UKROSMI more than the volume of excavated soil from the bottom of the Black Sea!
    2. knn54
      knn54 April 12 2020 17: 25 New
      +2
      "We don't need the smart ones. We need the faithful."
      Br. Strugatsky, "It is difficult to be God."
  7. HAM
    HAM April 12 2020 17: 07 New
    14
    That's right --- experienced tankers only become experienced admirals by the age of 70 ...
    1. poquello
      poquello April 12 2020 17: 18 New
      10
      Quote: HAM
      That's right --- experienced tankers only become experienced admirals by the age of 70 ...

      ) so
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer April 12 2020 17: 26 New
        +2
        This one became faster because he participated in the ATO.
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A April 12 2020 17: 31 New
        +7
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: HAM
        That's right --- experienced tankers only become experienced admirals by the age of 70 ...

        ) so

        And to the 80s - by pilots? laughing
    2. tol100v
      tol100v April 12 2020 18: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: HAM
      That's right --- experienced tankers only become experienced admirals by the age of 70 ..

      Yes, there is at least a military man in the sea, and in Germany from gynecologists, and right away to the ministers! I ask you not to give parallels!
      1. Arthur 85
        Arthur 85 April 12 2020 21: 01 New
        0
        The foreman of the first article, having barely appeared with the help of Ursula, can already command the unit ...
    3. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be April 12 2020 18: 47 New
      0
      At 70, these "tankers" will not fit into a tank
  8. Normal ok
    Normal ok April 12 2020 17: 18 New
    +2
    How can one not recall the inspectors under the General Staff of the USSR))
  9. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich April 12 2020 17: 19 New
    0
    You can’t clown to power, he always has April 1 (April Fool’s Day).
    1. boss
      boss April 12 2020 18: 04 New
      +1
      Funny, and our commander in chief introduced this norm back in 19, and he has it on April 1 ?!
      Why clown?
      Well, well
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 12 2020 18: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: patron
        Funny, and our commander in chief introduced this norm back in 19

        We have only a colonel general and up to 70 can serve
        1. boss
          boss April 12 2020 19: 05 New
          0
          No, well, if only Colonel General AND ABOVE is possible, then this is fundamentally changing the FSE)
          God save the minusers!
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 12 2020 18: 05 New
      -1
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      You can’t clown to power, he always has April 1 (April Fool’s Day)

      Late recourse
  10. Same lech
    Same lech April 12 2020 17: 26 New
    +3
    Spit on Ukrainian generals ... much more important is ...
    Girl and drone - Ukraine Maidana continues to kill

    https://jpgazeta.ru/devushka-i-bespilotnik-ukraina-majdana-prodolzhaet-ubivat/?utm_source=politobzor.net
  11. cniza
    cniza April 12 2020 17: 29 New
    +2
    Now, if we are guided by the norm on the possible extension of the deadline by five years, then for generals and admirals of the army and navy of Ukraine the age limit for service will be 70 years.


    Just wondering how many generals and admirals they have? If anyone has information, share it.
    1. Avior
      Avior April 12 2020 18: 03 New
      0
      for 2018 is an acute shortage smile
      .... Head of the Main Staff Directorate - Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Arthur Artemenko.

      "In the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and the Armed Forces there are 174 positions of senior officers, in which 111 generals serve. Among them are 80 major generals, 25 lieutenant generals, 4 colonel generals and two generals of the Ukrainian army. officer corps - 174 positions of generals to the total number of personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (250 thousand persons) is 0,07% ...

      such a misfortune, well, no one wants to be generals, what can you do, you need to extend smile
      1. Freeman
        Freeman April 12 2020 19: 36 New
        0
        Avior (Sergey) Today, 18: 03
        for 2018, there is an acute shortage ... such a misfortune, no one wants to be generals, what can you do, you need to extend


        It is not for nothing that Ukrainians are called "cunning". wink
        A solution was found - a shortage of generals, will be replaced by senior warrant officers. laughing

        Here, a member of the leadership of the General Staff of the Armed Forces
        1. Avior
          Avior April 12 2020 19: 53 New
          +2
          this is probably tracing from the Americans, they have such a system for sergeants
          looked at his biography, it became interesting how from the ensign, one can get to the headquarters
          this was the very first sergeant under Yanukovych in 2012, and is still in the post, and I thought the whole headquarters was fired after 2014.
          graduated from university, was in Sierra Leone and Iraq, then in Ukrainian, but I can understand, I think
          Successfully completing the advanced training course (DLI ELC, Lackland AFB, San Antonio, Texas, USA, 2010), the course of commanding the sea infantry (USMC SOI "East", Camp Lejeune, Jacksonville, North Carolina, USA, 2010), the diver's course Підривників (FVP KPNU im. I. Ogіnka, metro Kamіnets-Podilsky, 2012), course instructors (BMATT, Military Academy, Vyskov, Czech Republic, 2012), the course of sergeants in the middle rivals for special training (Adv. VKSS NTU “KhPI”, metro Kharkiv, 2012, with a certificate of honor), a course of NATO Staff Sergeants (PSOTC, Camp Butmir, Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, 2014), a course to instill discernment and goodwill The first hour of NATO peacekeeping operations (PSOTC, Camp Butmir, Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, 2014), the NATO NATO course and the training course for NATO senior sergeants for the Western Rivne (NATO School, Oberammergau, FRN, 2017).

          Vilno Volodina English my (ECL-72). Instructor with airborne training. Diver-driver ІІІ class, the right to carry out the robot on the surface and water.

          Interestingly, but his salary is general or ensign? smile
    2. boss
      boss April 12 2020 18: 05 New
      0
      What to shield them then?
      We still have more)
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 12 2020 18: 11 New
      0
      In the Ukrainian army from 106 to 155 generals, but in the first 15 years of independence in Ukraine, 637 general ranks were awarded

      In the Ukrainian army from 106 to 155 generals, but in the first 15 years of independence in Ukraine, 637 general ranks were awarded
      The Ukrainian Navy will have 13 admirals and generals for three warships

      The Supreme Commander-in-Chief decided that in the structure of the Armed Forces there will be 2 army generals, 9 colonel and admiral generals, 41 lieutenant general and vice admiral, 99 major generals and rear admirals, and only 151 general and admiral posts. As you know, at the moment in the Armed Forces of Ukraine 121 are the general and admiral posts.

      The structure of the apparatus of the Ministry of Defense provides for 15 general posts. 34 General posts were created in the General Staff - in the apparatus, the main operational support department, armament, and the rear. 18 generals - in command of the Ground Forces. 20 generals - in the command of the Air Force, 13 admirals and generals in the command of the Navy. Another 22 generals lead other support and training areas. 3 generals - by the military service of law and order. Thus, 125 generals and admirals out of 151 are not in operational positions and do not directly manage troops or operational formations.
      In the Navy one combat-ready ship of the marine zone. One. Plus two battalions of marine corps and artillery coast defense. Well, why are there 13 admirals and generals at once? How to explain this?
      the list of generals and admirals is given according to the decree of the president http://www.president.gov.ua/documents/18795.html
      1. Avior
        Avior April 12 2020 19: 09 New
        +1
        in the first 15 years of independence in Ukraine, 637 general ranks were awarded

        I suspect that in the 90s - early 2000s, the army was reduced and, according to tradition, the generals were given "for demobilization".
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 12 2020 19: 12 New
          0
          Do you know now request
          1. Avior
            Avior April 12 2020 19: 22 New
            0
            or maybe I'm wrong
            in the first 15 years, 637 general ranks were awarded. From the dynamics of the assignment of general ranks, an interesting conclusion can be drawn that the peak of the assignment of general ranks usually fell on the year of the presidential election (in this regard, the year 1999 was characteristic, when 76 general ranks were awarded).

            but you're right, now you won’t tear it away, and nobody needs it anymore
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 12 2020 19: 26 New
              -3
              They don’t need it, and we all the more
        2. bober1982
          bober1982 April 12 2020 19: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          and according to tradition, the generals were given "for demobilization".

          They gave the colonels demobilization, for sure, it was, for example, a major - he immediately retired as a colonel (assigned the rank), but they paid the pension as a major. As smart as a hundred monkeys.
          1. Avior
            Avior April 12 2020 20: 36 New
            +1
            I remember that they did in the Union
            1. Gato
              Gato April 12 2020 21: 12 New
              0
              I remember that they did in the Union

              Exactly, both during the Union and after. Moreover, if a person left the colonel’s position, then he was a colonel and a corresponding pensioner, and if with a lieutenant colonel he was also a colonel, but with a lower pension. But the term in stock or reserve increased.
            2. bober1982
              bober1982 April 13 2020 04: 57 New
              +1
              Quote: Avior
              I remember that they did in the Union

              Under the Union this was not and could not be.
              The age limit for serving junior officers in the Soviet Army is 40 years, and in some cases, the captain officer was given the rank of major, thereby transferring him to the category of senior officer so that he would later enjoy all the benefits of a senior retired officer.
              But, this practice was not of a mass nature, the more so colonels were not appropriated like that.
              1. Avior
                Avior April 13 2020 06: 09 New
                0
                I do not have statistics on this subject, but while I served as a reset, this was in the regiment. From the captain, who did not get to the academy, to the majors on the demobilization, I saw more than once
    4. Freeman
      Freeman April 12 2020 19: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      Now, if we are guided by the norm on the possible extension of the deadline by five years, then for generals and admirals of the army and navy of Ukraine the age limit for service will be 70 years.


      Just wondering how many generals and admirals they have? If anyone has information, share it.


      According to the website of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, for 2019 - 157 general posts.
      They are replaced by 110 generals and 47 colonels.
      Whether admirals enter here, I did not understand - most likely, yes.

      source:
      http://www.mil.gov.ua/news/2019/08/14/chi-tak-bagato-v-ukraini-generaliv/

      Threat. I did not find more accurate numbers. There is a reform of the APU.
      1. Gato
        Gato April 12 2020 21: 21 New
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        This is only MO. And there are policemen, the National Guard, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, etc. So the number of wide stripes is much larger.
  12. iouris
    iouris April 12 2020 18: 39 New
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    Up to 60, the general loses the battle. Wisdom comes only after 60.
    1. Catholic
      Catholic April 12 2020 18: 57 New
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      And after 60 and after the lost battles will not come yes
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 12 2020 19: 13 New
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        Quote: Catholic
        And after 60 and after the lost battles will not come yes

        Nowhere to come laughing
    2. Gato
      Gato April 12 2020 21: 24 New
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      general loses battles

      The battles are lost by colonels and various majors there. Generals only win them laughing
      1. iouris
        iouris April 12 2020 23: 29 New
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        Quote: Gato
        Colonels and various majors there lose the battles

        ... and the Supreme Commander turns the defeat of the colonel into his victory, and the colonels become generals.
  13. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 12 2020 18: 40 New
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    ,, Ukrainian admirals ,, - sounds funny.
    1. Catholic
      Catholic April 12 2020 18: 56 New
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      Especially if you remember about their fleet lol
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 12 2020 19: 14 New
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        Quote: Catholic
        Especially if you remember about their fleet

        And look at him laughing
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor April 13 2020 11: 13 New
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      They have much more admirals than warships.
  14. Chingachguk
    Chingachguk April 12 2020 19: 01 New
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    Well, this is understandable ...... School then these generals, Russian !!!! And now some clowns remained in Ukraine. They were taught to ride a carrot in a circle around a circus arena, and they are no longer capable of anything. Wedding generals in one word ...
  15. Pavel Patrashov
    Pavel Patrashov April 12 2020 19: 18 New
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    admirals ... is there a fleet in this outskirts?
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 12 2020 19: 27 New
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      Quote: Pavel Patrashov
      admirals ... is there a fleet in this outskirts?

      And why did they dig your sea? laughing
  16. primaala
    primaala April 12 2020 19: 24 New
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    Another Maidan was organized near the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine - those who do not have land for sale, and "muzzles" were filled with those who did not have money to buy. ))
  17. Jarserge
    Jarserge April 12 2020 19: 33 New
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    This is for someone specific Zelensky took off. Just check the age of the generals and it will become clear
  18. Astra wild
    Astra wild April 12 2020 20: 01 New
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    From the fact that the tank admiral Voronchenko will serve up to 70 or even up to 80 years old ships they will not be added.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman April 12 2020 20: 48 New
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      Quote: Astra wild
      From the fact that the tank admiral Voronchenko will serve up to 70 or even up to 80 years old ships they will not be added.


      "Choy something", won't it be added?
      Amers, on conservation, still have a lot of trash. Cheaper to push Ukraine than to spend money on storage.
      Have you already forgotten about "this"?
  19. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT April 12 2020 20: 06 New
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    Serve before dementia ... wink
    1. Pardus
      Pardus April 13 2020 00: 03 New
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      Quote: ODERVIT
      Serve before dementia ...

      Dementia has long developed yes
  20. Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 April 12 2020 20: 50 New
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    And you, as long as you do not serve, you are not fit for generals ... I wonder what should be in the head of the officer who gave the Soviet Oath to go to serve the Nazis?
    1. 30143
      30143 April 12 2020 21: 35 New
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      And what about the Russian oligarchs? Or do you insist that you have the power of the people? As the party nomenclature sat, it sits ... Take, at least Matvienko.
      1. Arthur 85
        Arthur 85 April 12 2020 21: 46 New
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        No, no, do not substitute concepts. In / in Ukraine fascism. Zelensky's arrival did not change anything (which I did not doubt one iota). That is, everyone who remains in any paramilitary structures, in the military-industrial complex, in the civil service - starting from the 14th year, they are direct accomplices. Spit on the memory of their ancestors. Please do not give examples of "nothing to feed the family" with. That is not why people go to the army.
  21. sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 13 2020 12: 21 New
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    Ukrainian generals and admirals allowed to serve up to 70 years

    And it’s better immediately to the grave board, or to Alzheimer's.
  22. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 13 2020 17: 50 New
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    By the age of 70 they’ll just start to move their minds.
  23. Astra wild
    Astra wild April 13 2020 18: 07 New
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    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: 30143
    But the Ukrainian army (nikakosova) still did not allow the Russian Federation to capture Novorossia.

    This is not the wrong Russian Army was not allowed to capture which the war never appeared?

    Therefore, they did not allow us to capture it because our army was not there yet. We reached Berlin, and Lviv will be much easier to reach.