Egyptian Navy received the third diesel submarine project 209 / 1400Mod

The Egyptian Navy has armed with a third diesel-electric submarine of project 209 / 1400Mod, built at the German shipyard Kieler Werft TKMS in German Kiel. The ceremony was held on April 9th ​​without ceremonies due to the coronavirus.

An intergovernmental agreement with Germany on the construction of two submarines of project 209 / 1400Mod for Egypt in the amount of EUR 920 million was signed in 2011. The Egyptian lead boat S41 was launched on December 10, 2015, transferred to Egypt in December 2016 and arrived in Alexandria on April 19, 2017. The second S42 boat was launched in Kiel on December 5, 2016. The Egyptian Navy received it on August 8, 2017, the boat arrived in Egypt on October 18, 2017.

In 2015, a second agreement was signed for two more submarines of this type (the third and fourth). S43 was launched in Kiel on May 3, 2019 and is now handed over to the Egyptian side. The last submarine is under construction, its transfer to Egypt is scheduled for 2021.

TTX: Submarine length - 62 m, width - 6,2 m, displacement - approx. 1400/1600 tons, underwater speed - 21,5 knots. in the surface - 11 knots, cruising range - 11 thousand miles, crew - 30 people.

In service: anti-ship missiles UGM-84 "Harpoon" and torpedoes DM2A4 (eight 533-mm torpedo tubes).

It is assumed that submarines will provide security and border protection in the Mediterranean and Red Sea, as well as the Suez Canal.

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

The ceremony was held on April 9th ​​without ceremonies due to the coronavirus.

Quiet champagne sucked. )))

[Doccor18]

460 million euros apiece!
That Egypt does not like our 636?
No worse than German and much cheaper.

[Tusv]

Quote: Doccor18

No worse than German and much cheaper.

Then you understand, "suddenly" it turned out that the Japanese fleet is significantly superior to our Pacific at times. Tu-22M3 alone cannot be ironed out. Now Varshavyanka for TF is hastily standing. Not until Egypt

[petrol cutter]

Do not smooth. That is yes.
On the other hand, look ... What is your military doctrine?
If offensive, then we are in ... If defensive, then a completely different conversation.
Of course I'm always wrong, but nonetheless ...

[Tusv]

Quote: Petrol cutter

On the other hand, look ... What is your military doctrine?

In relation to the Japanese? So she is such and is known to all. Horseradish vigorous, not the Kuril Islands

[petrol cutter]

I mean, defensive. I allowed myself to conclude.
Well then, everything is fine, everything is in order. There is no reason for concern, by and large.
By the way, where does the "carcass" have - I don't quite understand, but that is ...

[Tusv]

I mean, defensive. I allowed myself to conclude

The correct conclusion. To hell We are strangers when we need to raise our darling. And defend of course

[petrol cutter]

I wouldn’t be so blunt about Japan.
Bo, as far as I know, their Armed Forces are called "self-defense forces."
Another question is that Comrade Hitler also wove something about compliance with conventions. And the thing ended with what ?!
My grandfather had to explain in Berlin how Comrade Hitler was really wrong.

[Tusv]

Quote: Petrol cutter

Bo, as far as I know, their Armed Forces are called "self-defense forces."

Bo. Our nuclear weapons are purely peaceful. But just in case, we build submarines. For he said he didn’t take, so I won’t give

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Petrol cutter

as far as I know their Armed Forces are called "self-defense forces"

you never know how they call themselves. The Japanese have always pretended to be "fools". The Japanese traditionally do not emphasize successes, trying to pretend to be such harmless simpletons.
Moreover, Japan is one of the most faithful allies and partners of the United States (which the States themselves take seriously).

As for the doctrine, even if it is defensive, this fact does not at all mean a renunciation of offensive weapons. Defense - it must be active, otherwise it is doomed to failure

[petrol cutter]

I totally agree. There is no reason to disagree.
It is always a pleasure to discuss issues with a sufficiently necessary, strong opponent.

[Doccor18]

So suddenly. Every year they take 1 pl with extra-vneu in the fleet.

[Tusv]

Quote: Doccor18

Every year they take 1 pl with extra-vneu in the fleet.

That's it. The surface fleet of the Tu-223M will be able to cope with itself, but with the underwater. Because now Varshavyanka in the Pacific Fleet is more needed than in Egypt

[pl675]

Quote: Tusv

Quote: Doccor18

No worse than German and much cheaper.

Then you understand, "suddenly" it turned out that the Japanese fleet is significantly superior to our Pacific at times. Tu-22M3 alone cannot be ironed out. Now Varshavyanka for TF is hastily standing. Not until Egypt

So these bastards (Japanese) did finish the lithium-ion battery.
just now they took the first boat to the fleet -
On March 5, 2020, in Kobe, Japan, at the Kobe Shipyard & Machinery Works of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, a solemn ceremony was held for the commissioning of the Japanese Naval Self-Defense Forces of the SS 511 Oryu non-nuclear submarine built there (the 11th in the Soryu type series), which became the world's first combat diesel-electric submarine equipped with lithium-ion batteries

[Bongo]

Quote: Tusv

One can’t smooth out the Tu-22M3.

You may not know, but the MPA was liquidated in 2011. All T-22M3s of naval aviation were either transferred to the Long-Range Aviation, or “disposed of.” There are no aviation regiments armed with Tu-22M3s in the Far East now.

[Mebius]

Quote: Doccor18

460 million euros apiece!
That Egypt does not like our 636?
No worse than German and much cheaper.

But under the control of the United States and Israel .. Feel the difference!
Electronics is clearly Jewish ..))))
They float for a year, and then red screens ... Update the software and account! Otherwise there will be problems))))
Well, now they will attack me and to hell with them .. I am writing that I know !!!

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Mobius

Well, now they will attack me and to hell with them .. I am writing that I know !!!

You don’t know anything, but you write what your brain inflamed with alcohol brings, Vitalik ....

[donavi49]

This is Mubarak's contract. Which was guided by the western equipment in purchases. This is the first.
Second, the German side has allocated 700 million euros of bank guarantees for this contract.
The third in 2011 Admiralteika was loaded with the implementation of the Vietnamese and the first Russian contracts for 12 boats in total.

Well, and then, whoever already took the slippers, he walks in them . Therefore, they are already sitting on German boats, finishing off this contract. There is also a tasty contract for the implementation of the Navy base for these boats. The largest in the region is the covered part of 500x300 meters. Well, the full stuffing of the base itself - simulators, maintenance, etc.

[petrol cutter]

This is the name day of a colleague’s heart !.

[petrol cutter]

Speaking of birds! At SRZ 10 in the city of Polyarny there were places to be PD, which covered the top!
Of course, the concern was not about employees, but that it was not visible what was in the dock. But our brother rejoiced immensely to such a bonus!

[Navat]

Doccor 18, patriotism is a good thing, but without knowledge, naked patriotism is useless. Varshavyanka and modern German submarines are not comparable, if only because the Germans have the technology of an air-independent power plant, and Russia does not have such technology. Therefore, 4 countries bought Varshavyanka, and German submarines - dozens of countries. Learn materiel and do not make yourself a laughing stock.

[Doccor18]

Do not confuse fresh with salty?
What are you talking about? About project 209? Which scattered dozens around the world since the 80s, about the project 212? About project 214?
For your information, only the last two have VNEU, and the first is nothing except our smaller size and ammunition from our 636 pl.

[Navat]

It differs and is very different in noise. This happened historically, the Soviet Union always lagged behind in the field of submarines, and after its collapse, this lag increased even more.

[Doccor18]

So lagging behind in noise that the Pike in the middle of the warrant, next to the US nuclear aircraft carrier, surfaced to evacuate a sailor with appendicitis. After this "lag" many generals' heads flew ...

[Doccor18]

This is for you, some kind of anti-patriotism.

[Doccor18]

The last customer for submarines of this type was Egypt, which ordered two boats of the 209/1400 mod type in 2011, and in 2014 ordered two more. The 61st submarine of the project - S42 - was handed over to the Egyptian fleet in August 2017. GEM: 4 diesel generators consisting of: 4 MTU12V 396 SB83 diesel engines with a capacity of 4 x 1250 liters. with. (6100 l. From.) And 4 generators 4 x 900 kW, a rowing electric motor 4000 l. with.

[vadim dok]

A little worse and not so much cheaper!

[petrol cutter]

For some reason, it seems to me that Egyptian submariners are such submariners! ...
But, I could be wrong.
By the way, it’s interesting to learn about the activities (successful, it’s not for your grandmother) of the Egyptian submarine fleet.
What are the achievements, what are the plans for the transition to the nuclear submarines for example.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Petrol cutter

what are the plans for the transition to the submarine for example.

Do they really need them in the Mediterranean or Red Sea?

[petrol cutter]

I do not know. But it is necessary to develop, to move to a qualitatively different level. Or not?...
After all, everyone knows that "diesels" are diving boats.
Qualitatively and for a long time under water, the diocese of the nuclear submarines however. To date. Or not?

[Tusv]

Quote: Petrol cutter

I do not know. But it is necessary to develop, to move to a qualitatively different level. Or not?...
After all, everyone knows that "diesels" are diving boats.
Qualitatively and for a long time under water, the diocese of the nuclear submarines however. To date. Or not?

And what is the level of VNEU now? Carbon dioxide plume. So either a diving "diesel" or Ash and Laiki. But we have a deficit with the hunters. What are the conclusions?

[petrol cutter]

VNEU unfortunately, not worked out to this day. As I know. Therefore, I put on the submarine.
Being in the submarine, you hardly want to experiment.
I have been inside a Diesel boat and not only her.
The crew is unlikely to want to do experiments.
Honestly. And I understand him perfectly.

[Navat]

The submarines have one big drawback - they are much more noisy. Nuclear submarines are good in the ocean to launch strategic nuclear missiles. And in the Mediterranean, they will be easily discovered and destroyed.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Petrol cutter

By the way, it’s interesting to learn about the activities (successful, it’s not for your grandmother) of the Egyptian submarine fleet.

What I know is not happy.
In the 1960s, we handed them small and medium diesel boats ....
Our experts went ... trained crews ...
The conclusion was disappointing.
I never heard anything about the successes of Egyptian submariners.
Attempts to ask similar questions to those who were in the subject ran into a joke (heard twice, but in the same place):
"To prevent the boats from sinking, they welded them to the piers."

[petrol cutter]

Similarly, a colleague. About what I thought ...

[petrol cutter]

Actually, as required.
Technique in the hands of a Negro, a bunch of scrap metal .....

[Mebius]

built at the German shipyard Kieler Werft TKMS in German Kiel.

Was Israel also involved in the "construction"?

[Navat]

For Israel, boats of an even more advanced project are being built at the same shipyard 212

[Mebius]

Quote: Navat

For Israel, boats of an even more advanced project are being built at the same shipyard 212

They did it according to the cunning, first they built Egypt, and then even cooler Israel and the Egyptians laid the bookmarks in the submarines there for tracking .. Oh, Egypt, they spent such money in vain Do not you listen to the advice of Russian!

[Navat]

Not in vain . Egypt is not going to fight with Israel. He needs submarines to confront Turkey and Iran with imperial ambitions. And for this project 209 submarine

[Mebius]

Quote: Navat

Not in vain . Egypt is not going to fight with Israel. He needs submarines to confront Turkey and Iran with imperial ambitions.

Are you sure about that ..?

Quote: Navat

And for this project 209 submarine

Roomy probably? And how much payload do they take on board?

[Doccor18]

Quote: Tusv

Quote: Petrol cutter

On the other hand, look ... What is your military doctrine?

In relation to the Japanese? So she is such and is known to all. Horseradish vigorous, not the Kuril Islands

So that "horseradish was more vigorous" at the Pacific Fleet there would be 12 pieces, undeservedly forgotten, of project 945B-Mars

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Doccor18

12 pieces, unfairly forgotten, project 945B-Mars

Krasnoye Sormovo will not be able to master them, they are now clogged with civilian orders (bulk carriers).

[Tusv]

Quote: Doccor18

So that "horseradish was more vigorous" at the Pacific Fleet there would be 12 pieces, undeservedly forgotten, of project 945B-Mars

I don’t know what it is, but I think 6 Ashes, 6 Huskies in the Pacific will restore order. In the meantime, alas, you have to be content with the Warsaw women and at least build them

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Tusv

but I think 6 Ashes, 6 Huskies in the Pacific will clean up

so there is neither one nor the other at the Pacific Fleet ... when they arrive, there will be two dozen Virginia Block IV ((, so that only aviation today can restore order there

[Tusv]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

so there is neither one nor the other at the Pacific Fleet

Exactly. And We propose to build a pl for Egypt, and on the cheap. Themselves naked

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Tusv

And We propose to build a pl for Egypt

Who???

[Doccor18]

Apparently I :)
It's funny somehow here people accept information and understand. I just noted that
almost 500 million euros per square meter of parameters is cool, especially for Egypt.
In the 90s, China 10 of these quickly built.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Doccor18

Apparently I :)

Well, if you are, then of course we will build ....

[mvg]

almost 500 million euros per square meter of parameters - that's cool

636,6 Varshavyanka for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation costs about 450 million euros, it is out of date twenty years ago. And pr. 209/212 is the best-selling in the world, probably buyers are fools. Based on that project, South Korean submarines and Jewish Dolphins were built. They don’t keep stupid people there. In Turkey, DEPL of the same project.

[Doccor18]

Project 212A is a fairly modern project, but 209 is still not high-tech. The fact that the best-selling one is yes, but it is also far from the first freshness.

[Doccor18]

10 636's, I meant

[Oleg Olkha]

"Ägypten hat in Kiel vier U-Boote bestellt, die bis 2021 ausgeliefert werden sollen. Das Auftragsvolumen soll sich nach unbestätigten Meldungen auf rund eine Milliarde Euro summieren." kn-online.de “Egypt has ordered four submarines in Kiel for delivery in 2021. According to unconfirmed reports, the volume of orders is expected to be around one billion euros. " Four for that amount ...