It's time to change the operating system of the country

It's time to change the operating system of the country

Something strange is happening in the world. Humanity ceases to believe. The pandemic has become a litmus test, which shows precisely this attitude of the majority towards specialists, towards analysts, towards governments. Ordinary people, repeatedly deceived and "used", began to be skeptical of everything that is said, written or inspired by the TV.


Today, part of the world's population does not believe in the forecasts of experts more than the predictions of various seers, oracles, shamans, psychics and other people from this world. Moreover, any forecast is perceived exactly the opposite. They started talking about stabilization of the economy - wait for some trick in this very economy. They started talking about some kind of negotiations between the military - wait for increased fire and new victims.

Many specialists have appeared in some field - wait for trouble


Remember the wild capitalism of the 90s? When literally every day companies appeared and disappeared, when could money be lost or earned literally on the same day? “MMM”, “Chara”, numerous funds and more ... But I will remind you of another sign of that time.

Almost on every post in any city in Russia there were announcements about courses, express training, about “schools”, where in two or three months you were offered to get a new and necessary specialty of an accountant or even an economist. How easy it was then! Paid the money, and that’s it, you're a graduate! Moreover, such "specialists" were happy to hire the "new Russians."

And it was completely unimportant that the company was quickly disappearing. Even the fact that law enforcement officers took accountants as the causal place. The only important thing was that the risk was well paid. How many destinies were broken then ...

Or another example. Soviet история. Remember the "millions of executed and repressed" by Stalin? Remember when the word “human rights activist” became abusive in our country? And the beautiful name “Memorial” was blamed so that even today few people use it. And the newly made candidates and doctors of science, even academicians, spoke about this!

They were echoed by writers, artists, directors, and journalists. Remember the movies of that period? All these "Penalties", "Bastards" and the like? Remember the many “facts from the KGB archives”? And they spoke so convincingly that people began to doubt even the history of their own family. And anyone who was convicted in that period automatically became “political,” a victim of Stalinist terror.

For those readers who were born in those days or later, it sounds wild today. How wildly the parents' memories of treating the country with a wave of their hands through TVs by Chumak or Kashpirovsky sound wild! When in almost every family, when these magicians spoke, there was a can of water in front of the screen and some creams and so on. And this, as is now clearly visible, is among fairly well-educated people.

Why we do not want to learn from our own mistakes


Years passed. Many of the "cured" Chumak and Kashpirovsky forgot themselves in those years. “Yes, it was. All my neighbors charged creams. Oh, and then I laughed at them! .. ”Those who enjoyed watching the talentedly filmed“ masterpieces of world cinema ”turned into ardent critics of these films. "Accountants" and "economists" work in completely different positions. Life has put everything in its place.

But take a look at what's happening today. Do not you think that we again blindly believe in what they say from TV screens, computer monitors, stands at rallies, on benches in parks and squares?

Any decision made by the government on the basis of the recommendations of doctors of sciences, academics and other specialists, after many consultations and meetings, will be necessarily criticized by other doctors of science, academics and specialists. With the same sonorous titles, awards, authority.

And it turns out some kind of nonsense. A group of specialists versus a group of specialists. And all this on the head of a simple layman. Okay, the older generation, beaten by life, having a certain experience, having its own opinion and hard enough to change their own views. And how to be young? For those for whom these scientists and specialists are truly credible?

Those who are in opposition today or, conversely, support the government, rely on authoritative opinion in their disputes. Scientists have become modern "Chumaks." Their idea, which is being discussed in a narrow circle of like-minded people, is becoming a dogma. At least for a part of society.

By the way, officials, no matter how paradoxical this may sound, support society in such a “spoiled" state. How many times have we heard from fairly high-ranking officials and authoritative politicians about the liberal economic bloc in the government? A sort of complaint about life from people who are followed by tens and hundreds of thousands. We would do it, but they are bothering us ... Some of our politicians have been "bothering" for almost three decades.

Need to change the "operating system" of society


The fact that a universal talking room is harmful is at least clear to me. There is an old saying that answers the question of democracy and authoritarianism in government. Horses do not change at the crossing! Otherwise, it is simply impossible. You can’t pull the cart on one bridge, then one or the other. In this case, the bridge will be infinite.

We must stop listening to everyone at once. Yes, it is necessary to listen to the proposals of all. Yes, if in any sentence there is at least a piece of common sense, you need to discuss it. But after discussion it is necessary to make a decision. And bear collective responsibility for this.

We are well settled. “We” are the majority of Russians. How many times have I heard from people who were outraged by any decision of the government or the president: they say that I don’t go to the polls, nothing will change anyway! The popular version of the bureaucratic “is hindered by liberals (communists, anarchists, astronauts, Papuans and all around). I did not vote for him, which means that I don’t need to ask me.

One smart person recently gave me an interesting thought for thought. Simple and quite voluminous. “Tell me why, as soon as many economists appear in the country, is there an economic crisis?” Really, why?

I seem to have found the answer. It's all about horses! Too fond of harnessing these poor animals to the cart. And from different sides. It looks, of course, grandiose. A lot of people, a lot of horses, everyone is busy with work. Yes, not just busy. They work enthusiastically, with a twinkle. And for some reason the cart stands still. And if you get to any coast, then this day is a national holiday.

But all you need to do is start a business after a decision is made. And do not have ten coachmen on one cart. One is enough. But the one who will know which coast he needs to cross. And for everyone else, just stop wagging your tongue to tell everyone how you personally were “in favor” in the event of victory or “against” in the event of failure. And for your age, "carts" and "bridges" are enough.
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  1. Doccor18 April 8 2020 14: 13 New
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    "You criticize - offer, offer - do, do - answer" - one of the proverbs of I. Stalin.
    1. Svarog April 8 2020 14: 17 New
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      Good formula. But the Kremlin is not working .. especially in the part -Made-answer ..
      Yes, actually they do not criticize themselves, they only sing odes ..
      1. Lannan Shi April 8 2020 14: 23 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Good formula. But the Kremlin is not working.

        The complete lack of a personal responsibility system. At the top and in the middle of the pyramid of power for sure. If I, when I was working for my uncle, fed the authorities with only promises, and then shrugged, “Well, I couldn’t, I couldn’t, I made a mistake, it’s not my fault, it’s not my fault, it’s all intrigue from a competitor’s firm, then would fly out of work in a month. But they can ... For decades ...
        1. Stas157 April 8 2020 14: 38 New
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          It's time change operating system governing the country

          Without a change of carriers (a tsar with a camarilla) it will not work.
          1. lis-ik April 8 2020 18: 48 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            It's time change operating system governing the country

            Without a change of carriers (a tsar with a camarilla) it will not work.

            And to whom to change? They do not allow options.
            1. fk7777777 April 9 2020 07: 39 New
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              Absolutely do not allow who ?, or again they put the pennies of children, and that the complete collapse and fragmentation of the country. Only all the quiet horror is that the country is like a whole, but inside everything is divided, cut into allotments, and that the children of cannibals will be “good”, I doubt effective Fuhrer, yes, but people will not. Complete feudal fragmentation with the appearance of the integrity of the country. Something like this..
          2. Gene84 April 8 2020 18: 52 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            No media change

            Therefore, in the next election it is necessary to vote for the Communists. Only Soviet power is capable of changing the situation in the country.
            1. Fan-fan April 8 2020 21: 45 New
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              I agree, of all the participating candidates, the Communists voiced the most intelligible thoughts.
              Well, not for the same vote - Zhirinovsky, Yavlinsky or Sobchak.
              1. Ingvar 72 April 8 2020 22: 47 New
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                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Sobchak.

                It’s not worth voting for dogs. She is already called a candidate against everyone.
              2. your1970 April 9 2020 20: 32 New
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                Quote: Fan-Fan
                distinct
                ??
                By nominating a candidate - who proposed the program strictly the opposite Communist Party program ????
            2. user1212 April 9 2020 05: 07 New
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              Quote: Gene84
              Therefore, in the next election it is necessary to vote for the Communists.

              That’s for sure, it remains to understand who in the modern Communist Party is a communist laughing
            3. Ptolemy Lag April 9 2020 08: 38 New
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              Are they Communists? Or werewolves?
            4. Reklastik April 9 2020 09: 00 New
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              Damn it! And before, who did you vote for then? However, I always vote for them, but it does not affect anything. They will also perform after the victory as Zyuganov in 96, merge, surrender everything to new Yeltsin and choose a comfortable role for the opposition. So I always vote for them. Is it just an outlet, or "against all", or an irrational choice)))
            5. BastaKarapuzik And April 11 2020 14: 43 New
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              Who to vote for? Communists are different. Stalin, Khrushchev? Brezhnev, Gorbachev?
              Do you have Stalin to vote for? Not even Brezhnev, only Gorbachev
              1. Oleg Zorin April 11 2020 16: 20 New
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                Worse. Some Zyuganovs
          3. savage1976 April 10 2020 07: 05 New
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            And what bytes are written to these media is not important anymore? Or do you need to change the bytes too? Bytes can be different, some cream for TV with chumak carriers, and others create rockets for flying into space.
          4. Archon April 13 2020 05: 06 New
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            this is the biggest mistake. treatment should begin with the masses, and then the director will change by itself
        2. tolancop April 8 2020 15: 48 New
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          I agree. At one time he worked in the same state office ... If I tried not to execute the document (instructions, etc.) on time - I would be raped mercilessly. And this is correct, since only let the subordinates think about the possibility of ignoring the instructions of the leadership, the collapse will begin. Therefore, they always beat for violating executive discipline .. But this is at the lowest level ... And at the top it’s already tired of reading how many instructions of the President (etc.) have not been executed ... And it will not be executed if responsibility for this does not occur. There is another side to the coin: instructions and instructions must be EXECUTIVE in the specified time. But this is already somewhat different. Although, by and large, everything is the same - the irresponsible official gave the leadership "linden" without any difficulties, and that "linden" went up to the top and was born as a result of this "linden tree" a pointer that cannot be executed because the pointer is based on " linden ", but weakly connected with reality
          1. bandabas April 8 2020 17: 14 New
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            And what is right? You just took it under the hood and were afraid to prove what you need to do differently. It's not about subordinates. The point is you.
            1. tolancop April 10 2020 16: 07 New
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              bandabas but what should I do, having received the direction of the leadership? Take a peak and execute or enter into a discussion and sabotage? And where did you get the idea that I was afraid to prove the impossibility of fulfilling this or that instruction? Have you come up with? There were cases, which proved (it is argued that it was done, why there is no result, what needs to be done in order to get it, deadlines, etc.) made proposals .... All this was.
              1. bandabas April 11 2020 06: 06 New
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                Sabotage has nothing to do with it. And, it's not about subordinates. The point is how to properly organize the work. You can roll square by decree, but you can do everything easier and more efficient. Therefore, my subordinates never beat me. No sooner said than done. Without whining and procrastination.
          2. Doccor18 April 8 2020 17: 52 New
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            This went back to the second half of the 50s, when the quantity mercilessly trampled quality. They drove the plan everywhere.
        3. DemikSPb April 9 2020 12: 19 New
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          This is a feature of democratic forms of government. It is especially pronounced in the USA.
      2. AUL
        AUL April 8 2020 14: 31 New
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        An article written to insert one worn-out thesis
        There is an old saying that answers the question of democracy and authoritarianism in government. Horses do not change at the crossing! Otherwise, it’s simply impossible .... And do not have ten coachmen on one cart. One is enough.
        1. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 14: 43 New
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          Well, your comment was written in order to ensure that on the planet Nibiru, the quadcruders did not defeat long-diggers. or if in a different tone, look for what is not.
        2. mole April 8 2020 14: 49 New
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          So we have one coachman. Nobody changed him.
          And there are many critics, because there are no positive results.
          1. Gene84 April 8 2020 18: 52 New
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            Quote: Mole
            There are many critics because there are no positive results.

            it would be surprising if it was the other way around
            1. Aag
              Aag April 9 2020 20: 07 New
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              Quote: Mole
              There are many critics because there are no positive results.

              it would be surprising if it was the other way around
              Illogical. I think that if there were positive results, critics would be reduced.
          2. Mestny April 9 2020 15: 58 New
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            It only seems to you that much. To gather in small piles on the Internet does not mean much.
            Elections show the opposite.
            1. Ross xnumx April 9 2020 21: 13 New
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              Elections show the opposite.

              You would shut your mouth with your “fair elections”, in which 146% of those participating. Your stuffing and administrative-command tricks have long been known to everyone.
              1. Voyager April 10 2020 09: 12 New
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                You want to say that the majority of votes for the current government are stuffing and that other candidates are more popular among the people?
                1. Ross xnumx April 10 2020 09: 36 New
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                  Quote: Voyager
                  You want to say that the majority of votes for the current government are stuffing and that other candidates are more popular among the people?

                  The system of elections and appointments (after them) operates in such a way that those who collect 46% of the vote (of which at least 10-15% of the stuffing) as a result have more than 75% of the seats in the State Duma ... Although according to mathematical calculations for one deputy (so that he got into parliament) in a fair and principled election should vote:
                  100%: 450 = 0, 22% of eligible voters, or 176 people (from 000).
                  Here is what I want to say ... In addition, a person who violates the election rules (refuses to debate) should be removed from them as not respecting the constitution, law and source of power.
                  1. Voyager April 10 2020 10: 27 New
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                    How did you calculate the number of real stuffing and how are they proved? This is a serious charge.
                    I've heard about cases when demonstrative stuffing was made out exclusively for media reports representing the liberal public.
              2. EwgenyZ April 11 2020 19: 47 New
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                Quote: ROSS 42
                Quote: Mestny
                Elections show the opposite.

                You would shut your mouth with your “fair elections”, in which 146% of those participating. Your stuffing and administrative-command tricks have long been known to everyone.

                Allow me to insert my “five kopecks” about elections, one example: the election of the head of Yekaterinburg in 2013, we will not focus on the personality of Roizman (who became the head of the city), but the result is indicative - the people did not elect a nominee from Edra, but another, although the United Russia party poured so much "slop" and dirt on Roizman that "mother do not grieve." There is another example: the election of the head of another Ural city of Pervouralsk in 2011, again a nominee from Edra “flew like plywood”, and they chose the communist Pereverzev (at that time the communist), which was worth the successful political career of another “celebrity” Brozovsky, who was commissioned win "Pervouralsk.
                So not everything is so bad, sometimes, people can say their word if they want.
        3. ser56 April 8 2020 15: 17 New
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          Quote: AUL
          Horses do not change at the crossing!

          I remember the unforgettable film tail wags the dog ... hi
        4. Pashhenko Nikolay April 8 2020 15: 33 New
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          All right. One trouble, we don’t know where our coachman is taking us. Do not get lost. Or just tired and the cart is standing.
          1. Gene84 April 8 2020 18: 53 New
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            Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
            One trouble, we don’t know where our coachman is taking us

            there is only one way - capitalism, which is a dead end in development.
            1. Fan-fan April 8 2020 21: 50 New
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              I agree that even Yeltsin turned the cart into capitalism and Putin didn’t turn the cart around, but he is also trying to pull it there, but the cart seems to have already fallen off its last wheel. The cart is all.
            2. Mestny April 9 2020 15: 59 New
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              Quote: Gene84
              There is only one thing - capitalism, which is a dead end in development.

              One misfortune - capitalism exists, but socialism has died.
              How so?
              1. mole April 9 2020 16: 27 New
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                The key question!
                Capitalism exists due to the threat of socialism. Worse for capitalism is anarchy.
                Our anarchy was averted in the late 90s.
          2. fk7777777 April 9 2020 07: 47 New
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            Soon he will be 70, ... but his income with the income of ordinary people, for some reason, doesn’t coincide. Maybe an accountant, there is some kind of wrong one, well, in the Kremlin ...? Maybe Nabiulina (just rearrange the letter, and, to a point, the Minister of Economics) is very effective? ... In general, I look at Trutnev, the Minister of Labor, Murashko for medicine, who is clearly a comedian in their personnel department.
            1. Aag
              Aag April 9 2020 20: 13 New
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              Trutnev is the Minister of Labor, Murashko for medicine, who is clearly a comedian in their personnel department.
              You forgot the former Minister of Sports. smile
      3. Cowbra April 8 2020 14: 43 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        But not working in the Kremlin

        You don’t nod to the Kremlin - first apply to yourself. About people like you saying. Clear? I criticized you - and immediately said that YOU do - apply to yourself. You - missed the bell, and there at least do not dawn
        1. Romey April 8 2020 17: 13 New
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          There is no more spectacle than hysterical kremlebot.
          1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 01 New
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            So you really are empty chimes.
            Your upper communists are just empty chimes. And your lower link is also stupid.
          2. Revival April 9 2020 18: 30 New
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            I support, inadequate and primitive, even rather boorish
      4. bk316 April 8 2020 14: 45 New
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        But not working in the Kremlin

        Then I am addressing it to you, to all of you.
      5. Leshy1975 April 8 2020 14: 51 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Good formula. But the Kremlin is not working .. especially in the part -Made-answer ..
        Yes, actually they do not criticize themselves, they only sing odes ..

        A modern joke on this subject:
        - Hello, the Kremlin? I would like to work in the government!
        - Are you crazy?
        - Is this a prerequisite?
        1. AU Ivanov. April 9 2020 16: 03 New
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          This, in general, is a joke with a beard. I heard him back in the 80s.
      6. Alexander S. April 8 2020 15: 52 New
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        You criticize - offer ..
        1. mole April 8 2020 19: 18 New
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          There are many adequate criticisms. But only hddde effect?
          All competitors finished, there were "devils from a snuffbox". Do not understand Who will jump out!
          What about your suggestions?
          1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 02 New
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            Each of its shallow swamp climbs to criticize.
            This is especially true for us: the stupider and poorer - the better versed in the management of the country. Moreover, global advice gives the authorities.
      7. Sergey Averchenkov April 8 2020 17: 31 New
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        Mr. Svarog, and you, you personally, whom you would like to see in the Kremlin. Tryndet not coolies tossing and turning - you personally.
        1. Yura April 8 2020 17: 55 New
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          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Mr. Svarog, and you, you personally, whom you would like to see in the Kremlin. Tryndet not coolies tossing and turning - you personally.
          Trump -
          Svarog (Vladimir) January 20, 2020 15:42
          Trump is generally well done. Until now, I have not unleashed a war with anyone; I am fulfilling campaign promises.
          He not only wants to tie Trump's shoelaces himself, he wants everyone else in Russia to tie shoelaces to him.
          1. Svarog April 8 2020 20: 01 New
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            He not only wants to tie Trump's shoelaces himself, he wants everyone else in Russia to tie shoelaces to him.

            Trump is now right in the Kremlin .. well, or people with his own views .. when does it reach you wassat
        2. Svarog April 8 2020 19: 59 New
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          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Mr. Svarog, and you, you personally, whom you would like to see in the Kremlin. Tryndet not coolies tossing and turning - you personally.

          Yes, I have answered this question a hundred times. I want to see a team with socialist views in the Kremlin. Grudinin, Platoshkin .. in my opinion worthy candidates.
          1. Fan-fan April 8 2020 21: 53 New
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            All who were not afraid to publicly oppose the pension robbery are worthy candidates.
            What little, there are such.
            1. user1212 April 10 2020 06: 53 New
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              Quote: Fan-Fan
              All who were not afraid to publicly oppose the pension robbery are worthy candidates.

              Is this, for example, Khodorkovsky? laughing
          2. user1212 April 9 2020 05: 27 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Grudinin, Platoshkin ..

            There is such a joke
            Grudinin is a communist
            As for Platoshkin, there is such a level of inadequacy over the last half of the year that you wonder
            1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 05 New
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              Tell me who your idol is and I’ll tell you who you are.
              Grudinin?
              This is not just stupid. This is already funny.
              1. AUL
                AUL April 9 2020 18: 12 New
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                Quote: Mestny
                Tell me who your idol is and I’ll tell you who you are.

                Well, who YOUR idol is understandable. Further - in the text ...
            2. Aag
              Aag April 9 2020 20: 19 New
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              As for Platoshkin, there is such a level of inadequacy over the past half year
              You can link, or whatever you have, otherwise I did not notice.
              1. user1212 April 10 2020 01: 26 New
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                Yes please https://vk.com/platoshkin.nikolay
                1. Aag
                  Aag April 10 2020 08: 48 New
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                  Thank you. But what exactly seemed to you inadequate, at least thesisally.
                  1. user1212 April 10 2020 15: 09 New
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                    A lot of text will turn out. I look at his page at the moment. Just take the latest posts.
                    1. Well, let’s skip the video about Lenin. I don’t want to spend time on parsing chatter
                    2. post: have you heard anything about the party Veterans of Russia?
                    I googled this Ildar Rezyapov. And I found exactly one article that exactly repeats the information that Platoshkin gives as a political “insider” (with the hint “I know all these ghouls”). And this article is published at https://www.idelreal.org/a/29957271.html Wow source of information for a member of the Communist Party. Let us suppose. Rezyapov is a war veteran in the North Caucasus. I fully admit that he "served a clerk at the headquarters," but Platoshkin spent the whole 90s in Germany at the embassy grubs, with a short break, so he also did not feed lice in the trenches. Consider the conflict of Rezyapov and the Greens mentioned in the article, on the side of which Platoshkin and his "new socialism" stand. Who are the "green" in Russia and the world has long been clear (on this occasion, I spoke recently https://topwar.ru/169713-v-evrope-zagovorili-o-nehvatke-medikamentov-i-zavisimosti-ot-proizvoditelej-v- kitae-i-indii.html # comment-id-10286775) and it’s strange that a member of the Communist Party advocates, in fact, for blocking the access of the country's largest enterprise in its industry to the field on the basis of howling “greens”, with their then tarnished reputation. And it does not offer any alternative. Platoshkin for stopping a strategic enterprise for ransomware? Well, right, and then how to yell that Putin closed all the plants :) Further, regarding the WHO pandemic announced on March 11. Yes, Putin closed the borders only on March 16 (Platoshkin advocates the priority of the WHO order over the legislation of the Russian Federation?), But already on March 17 the Communist Party is holding an “all-Russian protest rally”, and this is during the fight against the virus ... What was the need, except for PR, unclear. It was possible to transfer to May without problems. Somehow he immediately lost the thought of a pandemic announced by WHO ... here he refers to a permit issued earlier by city administrations, which was issued long before the announcement of WHO. At least strange behavior, don’t you? "It is necessary to sue Putin that he delayed 5 days with the closure of the borders, and we can hold rallies because PR is important ..."Infantilism of pure water.
                    I wanted to comment on several of his posts, but the "multi-letter" turns out laughing hi
                    1. Aag
                      Aag April 10 2020 16: 09 New
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                      Thanks for the clarification and your time. hi
                      Until digging through your links.
                      I'm afraid it may turn out that all the applicants are just talkers, or, as always, pursue their goals that do not coincide with the interests of the country and people.
                      But for now, everything I heard from Platoshkin sounded reasonable and convincing ... hi
                      1. user1212 April 10 2020 17: 24 New
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                        But for now, everything I heard from Platoshkin sounded reasonable and convincing ...

                        I also thought so at the time, but the farther into the forest the thicker the partisans ... I’m lost, as far back as half a year or a year ago, I didn’t say stupid things, but apparently the struggle for “political capital” requires sacrifice. One wonders involuntarily if it’s more comfortable for him in “eternal opposition to power”, when he doesn’t need to do anything special, and most importantly he’ll never have to answer for anything? Has the well-fed "Zyuganov pension" become an end in itself for the current "communists"? I do not know... request
                      2. Aag
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                        Yes, like, he doesn’t favor them, Zyuganov’s ... He doesn’t rank himself among them. Or did I miss something again?
                      3. Aag
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                        Your "I don’t know .." applies to me.
                        The wildly increased number of radicals is straining, lacking knowledge, but is furiously eager to do something.
                        And you need to do something ... hi
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        It's not meant to be. Only not Grudinin. Socialist - yes. It turns out we are not so different.
    2. Ingvar 72 April 8 2020 22: 53 New
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      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      who would like to see in the Kremlin.

      I voted for Grudinin. And according to how much dirt the official media poured on him, he is our man. And his program is correct. hi
      1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 06 New
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        That is, the dirtier the person - the more he is yours?
        Everything is clear, cho.
        Is everything that was told about him turned out to be untrue?
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          That is, the dirtier the person - the more he is yours?

          Yes, because official media outlets only honest honests. If an honest person is poured with mud, he will still remain honest. But the corrupt scum as you do not launder, it will still remain corrupt scum.
          Quote: Mestny
          Is everything that was told about him turned out to be untrue?

          Do you have at least one legally proven fact of theft by Grudinin? And about the violation of privatization, you tell Putin’s friends about it. Chubais, Deripaska, Sechin.
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            Yes, for the official media only smears dirt on honest

            Is it Mavrodi and Basayev, in your opinion, were honest? Obama and Bush? Poroshenko, Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky? Well, they are also watered by the official media laughing
            But in general the statement of the phrase “only honest people are covered in mud” says a lot. The media are corrupt, it’s unconditional, but to say that all the information that goes against your worldview is false - just the apogee of infantilism
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And about the violation of privatization, you tell Putin’s friends about it. Chubais, Deripaska, Sechin.

            You will reach the point of justifying Vlasov’s betrayal on the grounds that millions more were captured one way or another. What is the difference then? Any honest communist Grudinin would put to the wall, and you have the "Communist Party" his first number for the election. How did it happen that former Yukos employees went to the State Duma on the lists of the Communist Party? No, we don’t need such “communists”. People do not believe you and they have every reason for this.
            Nominate a worthy candidate, expel all trash from the party, finally do at least something for the country, and do not brag about what was done in the USSR (to which the present Communist Party has nothing to do). Then I and many others will vote for such a Communist Party. In the meantime, they have what they have, their rating is around 15%. This is the honest answer of the people to the actions of such a "Communist Party"
        2. mole April 9 2020 16: 41 New
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          The truth is not important to them.
          We came to the conclusion that those who do not have support have nothing to catch.
          The field over there is clearly cleared, just the question: Why did Sobchak use the administrative levers as now, he lost the election to Yakovlev. GDP at that time was the right hand.
          I do not agitate anyone, everyone does it himself.
          1. savage1976 April 10 2020 07: 30 New
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            The field is cleared, say? Khakassia, the governor of the region from the Communist Party, before that were from United Russia. Well? What is the best way the region began to live? Salaries increased, region closed debts, prices fell? Does the governor raise the profile of the Communist Party by his own affairs? Yes, there’s nothing of this, everything is like everywhere else, prices are rising, salaries are falling, infrastructure is declining, the governor is drawing salaries for himself and his people and distributing the apartment. Now, even the coronavirus does not stick to the Communists, they have innate immunity. Well, it's the face of the party. So what is the difference between modern Communists in matters and those who suggest "eating macaroni", "they did not ask you to give birth", etc. The answer is simple, in no way except verbal diarrhea.
      2. your1970 April 9 2020 20: 42 New
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        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
        who would like to see in the Kremlin.

        I voted for Grudinin. And according to how much dirt the official media poured on him, he is our man. And his program is correct. hi

        His program was contrary to the program of the Communist Party.
        And yet - the village voted for anyone, but not for him. The village is aware of how they squeezed land into 90 land- SPK-AO-ZAO
        How do you know ZAO from AO? The fact that there are 49 holders of shares in the company, of which 96% of the shares belong to the family ...
        Too shy to ask, did he refuse the shares in favor of the Communist Party? Asya ?????
        1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 21: 49 New
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          His program was contrary to the program of the Communist Party.

          Putin’s actions contradict his statements. This is much cooler! wink
          1. your1970 April 10 2020 08: 52 New
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            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: your1970
            His program was contrary to the program of the Communist Party.

            Putin’s actions contradict his statements. This is much cooler! wink

            No! You have already decided that it is bad, this is enough!
            But Grudinin going to the polls and not able to deal with the minimum problem - with his accounts (he closed everything, no, he didn’t close, he forgot, but there’s no money for that!) Causes confusion and fear ...
            After all, they put a little pressure on him, a bit and he swam. Not the United States, terrorists, pensioners, oligarchs, cheap wages, NATO, emergency housing, coronovirus, falling oil prices, security officials ......- no! ¡In total merely his own accounts ...
            If he didn’t even cope with this penny threat, how will he keep the US strike? No way ....
  2. Gene84 April 8 2020 18: 51 New
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    But not working in the Kremlin

    There are many formulas and economic laws that do not work.
    1. Fan-fan April 8 2020 21: 55 New
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      There is obscurity and personal loyalty to a superior and everything, nothing else works.
      1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 07 New
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        Is this about the Soviet regime?
        Exactly, it was. I remember very well the utmost slaughter, theft, meanness, and contempt for the working people. "
        1. Revival April 9 2020 18: 33 New
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          So you haven’t changed your habits now
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          Aag April 9 2020 20: 24 New
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          "marginal abuse, theft, meanness, and contempt for the working people"
          Is it more direct, large-scale than now?
          1. your1970 April 9 2020 20: 47 New
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            "marginal abuse, theft, meanness, and contempt for the working people"
            Is it more direct, large-scale than now?

            Yes, no less .........
            "If you study, you’ll go to college; if you don’t, then you will go to vocational school !!!!" ....
            Purely respectful to the working class, each parent spoke in 70-80 ....
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              Quote: AAG
              "marginal abuse, theft, meanness, and contempt for the working people"
              Is it more direct, large-scale than now?

              Yes, no less .........
              "If you study, you’ll go to college; if you don’t, then you will go to vocational school !!!!" ....
              Purely respectful to the working class, each parent spoke in 70-80 ....

              I’ll add from myself how in those "distant" times they treated workers in the society.
              Decoding GPTU - "Lord, Help
              Stupid Get Around. "
              That's it. sad
              1. Aag
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                Well, really, don’t bend over. More often than not they said it with self-irony.
                Do you think they’re better treated now? When for each (not self-employed, with all the risks) workaholic there are a couple of managers, an accountant, a lawyer, a general manager, a manager, a deputy general manager ... a gene .der.po ...? Yes, and how many vocational schools are left? With the Soviets, a worker could get more than a manager! Now I see no examples.
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                  Well, right, don't go too far.This was often said with self-irony.
                  Do you think they’re better treated now? When for each (not self-employed, with all the risks) workaholic there are a couple of managers, an accountant, a lawyer, a general manager, a manager, a deputy general manager ... a gene .der.po ...? Yes, and how many vocational schools are left? With the Soviets, a worker could get more than a manager! Now I see no examples.

                  Not at all! "Most often said"in all seriousness. It is checked on itself. And it is so.
                  And I'm not bending anything.
                  And yes, now they are not better treated, unfortunately.
                  "Nothing is new under the moon."
    2. AUL
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      There are many formulas and economic laws that do not work.

      And not only economic!
  3. astepanov April 8 2020 19: 41 New
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    As I understand it, the author claims that academics are to blame for all our troubles, that there should be collective discussion and collective responsibility for everyone. Awesome!
    What academicians does the author condemn? And who and when listened to them? Mr. Yeltsin was more guided by the effects of alcohol, psychics, and a thirst for power; Mr. Sergey V. Kindersurprise, now approaching the position of a gray cardinal, when he was head of the oil and gas complex, also surrounded himself not with academics, but with psychics; the thieving rogue Boris Gryzlov, who had stained himself with tricks with the felon Petrik, even stated that “the Academy of Sciences is a“ stronghold of obscurantism. ”They were never interested in the opinion of professionals - otherwise they would not have been stolen by stolen tsatskas like“ academician Kadyrov, ”the doctor technical sciences "Rogozin, or one nationwide candidate of economic sciences, who did not work a day in science.
    Collective responsibility, you say? Shchaz! We are already paying for the fact that for three decades the country has been sitting deep between the buttocks, from the second place in the economy it has sunk into the same buttocks, and there is no clearance for that. Hundreds of powerful men who allegedly "answered" for something, having pumped their fill, dumped over the hill, hundreds more are ready to do it. But what do academics have to do with it, if the RAS, which once played a crucial role in the creation of atomic weapons, delivery vehicles, energy, etc., is now reduced to a state of insignificance if cash flows are redirected past an honest RAS in the direction of all sorts of Skolkovo and Rusnano?
    And one more thing: in order to accept or reject the opinion of academicians, one needs to have a comparable level of knowledge and experience with them. The crowd, by definition, does not possess this; Ball opinion from the government, as well as from the crowd, does not matter. There is no need to hang dogs on academics, especially since they have nothing to do with the decisions of the authorities.
  4. smart ass April 9 2020 08: 08 New
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    The real saying .... didn’t didn’t answer, delegated didn’t answer, pretended not to hear didn’t answer either.
  • paul3390 April 8 2020 14: 21 New
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    So for a long time everything was offered - OS of the USSR 2.1, corrected and supplemented .. 2.1 - this is so that the version is odd, otherwise it's a bad omen .. wink
    1. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 14: 45 New
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      But what about those who do not want USSR 2.0? Will you plant or send? Or maybe just bury it? and there’s more than enough to believe. especially to the younger generation, this is all alien and strange. no need to reanimate corpses. need to move forward.
      1. paul3390 April 8 2020 14: 49 New
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        Well - you liberists did something with those who did not want to put the bourgeois on their necks? So we are. And if you will be coddled - that means, we will plant and evict. Or maybe just bury it if necessary. According to circumstances..
        1. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 15: 00 New
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          Firstly, I'm generally apolitical. completely. me that white that red that green and generally any color to one place. and everything else thanks for the answer. he once again proved to me that you won’t bring anything good to the country.
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            Firstly, I'm generally apolitical. completely. me that white that red that green and generally any color to one place. and everything else thanks for the answer. he once again proved to me that you won’t bring anything good to the country.

            Well, if you are as apolitical as you assure
            me that white that red
            then how to understand you
            you won’t bring anything good to the country
            .
            Then wait for the result, since you are so apolitical. But you are deceiving us when you assure yourselves of political apathy. After all, you are well-known on the website of Patriot. wink
            1. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 15: 31 New
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              I am a patriot of the country and not beliefs. I'm tired of repeating this. As for the result, I will answer this way. I will defend and defend what is dear to me. country of loved ones. not the colors of flags and people carrying them. so clear?
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                A country without beliefs does not exist.
                1. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 16: 35 New
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                  in general, it’s pretty normal that someone loves their home and does not have political preferences.
                  1. paul3390 April 8 2020 16: 54 New
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                    Then I don’t understand your trembling at all .. Nobody is going to touch your house even under the Soviet regime. Or do you still have a mansion on Rublevka? Then yes - you will get ..
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                      you somehow strange understand my words. I say that after your words it seems to me personally that your desires will harm my country. which means I will be your enemy. and that’s it. but not for political reasons, but because you want to destroy people that you don’t like. I do not want the resuscitation of a state that destroyed itself and betrayed its inhabitants. everything is much more commonplace. Do you really think that I will believe that only those who have a mansion on Rublevka bother you? yeah. Shaz. we already passed it. for you, those who live better than you will become badly growing. and you first wring out the mansions. then press the cottages and then you will get to simple cottages. thank. do not.
                    2. paul3390 April 8 2020 17: 50 New
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                      No - you don’t understand correctly .. The enemy is not the one who I don’t like about political motives, but the one who wants to destroy me because he doesn’t like my political motives .. Actually, that was how it started in 1917, After all, the Bolsheviks were quite a peaceful people, even the death penalty was immediately abolished .. But when they started to cut them, they turned on the answer, no less cruel. Well, how do you like? So about here and will be ..
                      As for property - if you stole it from the state, or stole it, then you got ... No - but who needs your summer cottage? Own yourself calmly .. Just teach - if you have a brick mansion with a swimming pool and about three floors - you will have to sweat a lot to prove the legality of receiving funds for it .. wink
                    3. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 15 New
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                      I'll tell myself. There is plenty to shoot from, I know how to do it perfectly.
                      If such a turmoil begins, and such guardians for justice appear, I will shoot as many communist heads as I can.
                      So it is still unknown which of us got.
                      For now, download on the Internet. It is safe for you.
                2. your1970 April 9 2020 20: 52 New
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                  Then I don’t understand your trembling at all .. Or do you still have a mansion on Rublevka? Then yes - you will get ..

                  Zhores Alferov also had a mansion and the income from the funds was not sickly.
                  Would he too - would he hit?
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          But you are deceiving us when you assure yourselves of political apathy. After all, you are well-known on the website of Patriot.

          I will add that a very, very stubborn ryaputriot. She doesn’t even go to bed and doesn’t go out to dinner, she tells everything and talks about how and to whom it is good to live in Russia.
          Sometimes I even feel sorry for him, a person doesn’t protect himself at all. crying
          1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 18 New
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            Patriot is better than you traitors.
            What do you think-burn out under the new government? What if not?
            1. Revival April 9 2020 18: 38 New
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              Well, now we feel the bottom.
              That's better?
      2. AUL
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        Firstly, I'm generally apolitical. completely. me that white that red that green and generally any color to one place

        Oh, you are cunning, Dmitry! Godlessly dissemble! Apolitical, you say? So why then in every discussion on political topics you are present in huge doses? On duty? bully
        1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 21 New
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          So far, only communist nonsense here on the site are blooming in double flowers.
          Why are you there, minus the whole basement? Fighters for the happiness of the common people.
          You are a pack, as befits the Communists. Vicious, but fortunately not numerous and not very smart.
          Not all of you understand, but these sprays of red saliva occur on the Internet.
          Take the risk of doing this in real life, and red snot will fly instead of drooling.
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            You are a pack, as befits the Communists.

            If this is addressed to me - I must upset you. Not a communist, not a member of the CPSU, not a member of the Communist Party and never was. And, even more so, not edros. Convinced non-partisan. True, he was a pioneer and Komsomol member. But then they didn’t ask me, they accepted everyone with a conveyor belt.
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      And if you will be coddled - that means, we will plant and evict. Or maybe just bury it if necessary.

      are you not afraid to be in places not so remote? bully
      1. paul3390 April 8 2020 16: 51 New
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        No. If I nakosyach at a jail time - it means I’ll sit down. You have to take yours. And you, as I understand it, an adherent of the liberal theory that in the USSR they planted millions and for no reason?
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          And you, as I understand it, an adherent of the liberal theory that in the USSR they planted millions and for no reason?

          1) I understand your way of thinking, or rather, its lack - you think in cliches ... I don’t see any reason to persuade - life will teach ... bully
          2) according to Zemsky in the USSR was planted:
          "At the beginning of 1954, the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs compiled a statement on them of N. S. Khrushchev on the number of convicts for counter-revolutionary crimes, that is, under article 58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR and according to the corresponding articles of the Criminal Code of other union republics, for the period 192I-1953 (three people signed the document — USSR Prosecutor General RA Rudenko, USSR Minister of Internal Affairs SN Kruglov and USSR Minister of Justice KP Gorshenin). This was a five-page reference compiled from direction of N.S. Khrushchev and dated February 1954, XNUMX
          The document said that, according to the data available in the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, for the period from 1921 to the present, i.e., until the beginning of 1954, the counter-revolutionary crimes were condemned by the OGPU College and the NKVD Troika, the Special Conference, the Military College, courts and military tribunals 3 777 380 people, including to capital punishment - 642, to detention in camps and prisons for a term of 980 years and below - 25, to exile and deportation - 2 people. "
          as you see, this is, according to Soviet data, almost 4 million ... request
          I note that the dispossessed -4,5 million of which more than 2 million were exiled, as well as the exiled peoples-more than 2 million ...
          I recommend learning the history of Russia - you might grow wiser, although I do not believe ... request
          1. paul3390 April 8 2020 17: 05 New
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            Maybe - will you grow wiser if you learn the basic operations of arithmetic? And notice that this figure is over 32 years. And the number of repressed included the post-war, Vlasovites, policemen, traitors, etc. .. And then - compare with the numbers who served 30 years of democracy today.
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              Quote: paul3390
              Maybe - you get smarter

              in your coordinates, no ... hi
              Quote: paul3390
              if you learn the basic operations of arithmetic? And notice that this figure is over 32 years.

              yes, but crimes for the Kyrgyz Republic - not for criminal ... request

              Quote: paul3390
              And then - compare with the figures of the democracy that have served 30 years.

              What is the number of political during this time! So are you a proponent of anal? bully
              Quote: paul3390
              And the number of repressed included post-war, Vlasovites, policemen, traitors, etc.

              unlike you, I am educated and informed ...
              "In one of the certificates prepared by the 1st special department of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs in December 1953, there is a note:" In total, 1921 people were convicted for 1938-2, of which 944% (879) were criminals "[ 30]. " hi
              1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 27 New
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                It is useless to argue with them stubborn.
                I tried once to ask such a question - you say millions did not plant, everyone lies. And how much they planted, and did they squeeze at all?
                How much do you need, to say something - is this a bloody regime?
                It turns out that everyone was rightly clamped (!!!!).
                This is the main thing for the Communists. If you kill a person, you must necessarily repeat that you are doing this because he was against communism.
                Then it does not count, it is possible.
                Now imagine - they will come again. And they themselves will decide on the spot - whom to kill, and who just to rob.
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                  How much do you need, to say something - is this a bloody regime?

                  if you look at the Republic of Ingushetia, then the Bolsheviks called IN2 bloody for ridiculous losses by their standards .... for Bloody Sunday - 130 killed and 299 wounded. hi
                  Quote: Mestny
                  It is useless to argue with them stubborn.

                  useless request these are fanatics - they need a freebie and that's all ... for her sake they’re ready to break, kill, rob ... they’re not able to build .... repeat
    3. Vadim237 April 8 2020 16: 50 New
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      See how you are buried - a random bulldozer at a construction site.
    4. Romey April 8 2020 17: 20 New
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      You are somehow too bloodthirsty. Do not scare liberal Putinists. Frightened, they will generally become inadequate. It’s enough to tighten the article in the modern Criminal Code and really put on it the problem with liberals of all stripes from security forces to sislibs will resolve itself: some will sit down, others will run away. But for this you yourself need the prerequisites ...
      1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 28 New
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        Do not be afraid of the Communist Zagrudininians.
        Nothing will break off for you.
        Jump on the Internet here and shut up.
  • Lannan Shi April 8 2020 16: 49 New
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    Quote: carstorm 11
    But what about those who do not want USSR 2.0? Will you plant or send? Or maybe just bury it?

    "What are you worried about these people? Well, thirty million will die out. They did not fit into the market. Do not think about it - new ones will grow."
    I remember your ideologist spoke so. Well, replace the word market with the USSR or socialism. Or when others die out, for your pocket, that's fine. And here you are for what, you are children. So do you reason?
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      Ideologist? So what happens - is there any ideology?
      And since it is, it’s no worse than yours.
      And why change it to yours from a rotten corpse in the Mausoleum?
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    Quote: carstorm 11
    But what about those who do not want USSR 2.0? Will you plant or send? Or maybe just bury it? and there’s more than enough to believe. especially to the younger generation, this is all alien and strange. no need to reanimate corpses. need to move forward.

    Move forward! But only for millions!
    What kind of cliche immediately hanging: "plant or send"? Or dig holes? It’s time to leave stereotypes.
    Where do you live? Here!!!
    When do you live? Now!
    Communicate with whom? With us!
    Well, talk here and now!
    Do not offer to plant or evict! Zaezh
    A hackneyed topic!
    1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 35 New
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      So here half today jumps with this topic - "Grudinin will come already, then we will rob!"
      We will determine who bourgeois and who not.
      So I can immediately tell how it works, what to guess.
      There are two neighbors - one is normal, the other is a communist. One of them has a house, a house, while the other has a Soviet coat and Internet access.
      And so the communists came to power.
      Ah, do you have a house? Bourgeois! We’ll take away, and shoot the family. Well, let’s hand it over to the authorities, let them die - after all, we are for communist legality!
      This is not what I came up with if anyone does not know.
      It has already been so.
      1. AU Ivanov. April 9 2020 18: 30 New
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        It happened before. They began to squeeze property from the rich, then it came to engineers, doctors, in short, the then middle class. Well, then the boomerang flew back, they began to shake the peasants more prosperously and more skilled workers. Lumpen, that is, the Sharikovs. In general, Bulgakov's “Dog Heart” is a masterpiece.
        So qualitatively display the Communists and their fans ..
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    It will be as simple as two and two laughing didn't fit ... in the commune wink
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    But what about those who do not want USSR 2.0? Will you plant or send? Or maybe just bury it? and there’s more than enough to believe. especially to the younger generation, this is all alien and strange. no need to reanimate corpses. need to move forward.

    Do not worry, no one will be sent to prison, no one will be sent out, and the corpse cannot be reanimated in any way - no one has returned from there. A couple of dozens of quasi-communists in VO cannot do all this laughing
    1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 43 New
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      And they jump so vigorously - it’s a pleasure to watch.
      It's a shame that this is VO. It is in.
      No matter how few this dirty crowd of comm trolls are, the mood of normal people can be spoiled.
      Well, this is how you walk along the street, and such are standing, and swearing together and dirty. What kind of conversation can take place here? And the administration of the resource does not respond to this. type - we have different opinions.
      There are sectarian resources named after one person, the leader of a sect, such as oper.ru. But this is understandable - the owner himself decides what to pour into the brains of the "people".
      And here it seems, these dirty friendly crowds should not be.
      1. mole April 9 2020 16: 56 New
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        If you post your thoughts here, then please read the strangers.
        Or there are two opinions, one is Yours, the other is wrong.
        Or want to hear only His? Because doesn't smell?
      2. Revival April 9 2020 18: 44 New
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        How do you tear that start)
        Feeling already ... that's good
  • Aag
    Aag April 9 2020 20: 32 New
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    "no need to reanimate corpses. just move forward."
    In bright capitalism? No, really, tell me. I even put + to you, but they minded me for a very reasonable question. Judging by previous posts, you advocate something else.
  • military_cat April 8 2020 16: 15 New
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    Quote: Doccor18
    You criticize - offer
    Easily.

    Quote: Doccor18
    suggest - do
    At this moment, the Russian Guard comes, and the FSB begins an investigation into the attempt on the foundations of the constitutional system.
    1. ser56 April 8 2020 17: 03 New
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      Quote: military_cat
      The FSB begins an investigation into the attempt on the foundations of the constitutional system.

      and rightly - without this, RI was destroyed by the benign ... request
      1. Romey April 8 2020 17: 23 New
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        The Russian Empire was, you will not believe, destroyed by the elite of the Russian Empire. So that complacency has nothing to do with it ...
        1. ser56 April 8 2020 18: 21 New
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          Quote: romey
          was not believe

          why do I just know that ... hi
          Quote: romey
          complacency has nothing to do with it ...

          not at all - it was the compassion and benefit of the stupidity of monarchists like Shulgin that brought them into the car IN2 request
      2. military_cat April 8 2020 23: 47 New
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        Quote: ser56
        and right
        Ever heard of the Stockholm Syndrome?
        1. ser56 April 9 2020 13: 57 New
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          Quote: military_cat
          Ever heard of the Stockholm Syndrome?

          I know a lot ... wanted to say something? request
    2. mole April 8 2020 19: 46 New
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      Don’t drop it!
      They have enough real affairs!
  • Gene84 April 8 2020 18: 51 New
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    Quote: Doccor18
    "You criticize - offer, offer - do, do - answer" - one of the proverbs of I. Stalin.

    He was a wonderful person. Great.
  • aiden April 10 2020 00: 35 New
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    Actually, it was said by Sergei Korolev, not Stalin
  • orlovtube April 12 2020 18: 14 New
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    Offered
    1. Create a state bank for servicing bonus personal accounts of citizens of the Russian Federation
    2. Put 90% of the NB fund into personal accounts of citizens of the Russian Federation (about $ 3000 per account)
    3. Monthly transfer to personal accounts of citizens of the Russian Federation 50% of the total sales of raw materials
    4. In order to encourage savings, establish account returns of at least 10% per annum
  • Svarog April 8 2020 14: 14 New
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    after all, it is only necessary to start a business after a decision is made. And do not have ten coachmen on one cart. One is enough. But the one who will know which coast he needs to cross.

    That's when such a coachman appears then and there will be nothing to discuss .. then only Ur will remain screaming. But while there is no such coachman .. the one that is, he is not the same ..
    1. Uncle lee April 8 2020 14: 44 New
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      Grandfather Krylov has long described it ...
    2. PavelM April 8 2020 14: 47 New
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      All, alas, are mortal. And Putin too. That is why it is better for the country that, while still alive and has not yet lost its “rating,” he would leave and recommend his successor, whom he trusts (for today, I see Shoigu as the successor). The people will support (would support).
      Then, remaining a living conscience of the nation, the transfer of power would have passed, gently.
      Otherwise, while Putin is in place, an alternative will not appear. Then, after Putin (alas), a new debate will begin, and, I think, the last collapse of the country. The deputies have already adopted amendments to the Constitution. Everything is ready for the new election of Putin.

      However, the point is not even in Putin’s lifelong rule, but in his virtually permanent environment, and this is definitely a disaster!
      1. Mebius April 8 2020 15: 02 New
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        Quote: PavelM
        All, alas, are mortal. And Putin too. That is why it is better for the country that, while still alive and has not yet lost its “rating,” he would leave and recommend his successor, whom he trusts (for today, I see Shoigu as the successor)

        Putin left and Shoigu? laughing Oh, how tired I am here to warn sons inflated with Western propoganda .. Well, you don’t need to drive the western wave to Russia! Maybe we can figure it out calmly? And we’ll drive the wave backwards .. Russia is resisting, despite the economic sanctions and other Western set-ups .. Do you want the 90s again? Russia has a pillow to counter Western provocations and not in US treasury bills only ..
        China and I were preparing for this .. hi And we did it !!!!!
        1. ser56 April 8 2020 15: 20 New
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          Quote: Mobius
          We are with china

          Are you sure that China is with you? bully Nothing red teaches ... request
          1. Ingvar 72 April 8 2020 23: 04 New
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            Quote: ser56
            Are you sure that China is with you? Nothing red teaches

            China is not our friend at all, that’s understandable. But their economic system is much better built. Social capitalism, or capitalist socialism.
            1. ser56 April 9 2020 13: 53 New
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Social capitalism, or capitalist socialism.

              long back from there? hi
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              But their economic system is much better built.

              well, where we are not .... you are funny - you know little, but are prone to exaltation, like a young lady .... request
              1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 14: 24 New
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                Quote: ser56
                well, where we are not .... you are funny - you know little, but are prone to exaltation, like a young lady ....

                In a decent society, farting is not cultural! wink If you do not want your um ... the answers did not look like gas, formulate the answer \ question correctly, with arguments / rebuttals. bully
                1. ser56 April 9 2020 14: 38 New
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                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  In a decent society, farting is not cultural!

                  depends on the country .... by the way - you are definitely not a young lady? repeat
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  formulate the answer \ question correctly, with arguments / rebuttals

                  take your teaching to you and your messages ... request
                  1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 14: 47 New
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                    Quote: ser56
                    By the way - you are definitely not a young lady?

                    Want to check it out? belay
                    Quote: ser56
                    relate your teachings to you and your messages

                    My message is the main thing - the meaning. What can not be said about yours. Silly questions
                    Quote: ser56
                    long back from there?

                    and even more worthless and meaningless assumptions.
                    Quote: ser56
                    you're funny - you know little, but are prone to exaltation, like a young lady ....

                    tongue
                    1. ser56 April 9 2020 14: 57 New
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                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Want to check it out?

                      I believe women, I’ll lie anyway ... request
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      My message is the main thing - the meaning

                      this is your misconception, usually peculiar to the illiterate .... request
                      consider ....
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      But their economic system is much better built.

                      typical illiterate statement - what is better? Yes, much more?
                      Enlightenment - China is not self-sufficient in energy and food products, the country has a terrible ecology request In the Russian Federation, this is much better, as well as the standard of living ....
                      we go further:
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      capitalist socialism.

                      oxymoron or if in a simple terminological nonsense, issuing no knowledge of the basics ....
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      more worthless and meaningless assumptions.

                      see above - this is just a statement of the situation, young lady ... request
            2. Voyager April 10 2020 09: 22 New
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              How much better? You will take an interest in what salaries, pensions, living conditions and social equality are.
              1. Ingvar 72 April 10 2020 19: 22 New
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                Quote: Voyager
                And social equality.

                Take an interest in the meaning of the term median wealth, and compare the numbers for this indicator in China and ours.
                1. Voyager April 10 2020 19: 27 New
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                  Compare how many elderly in percentage terms receive pensions from us and from them.
      2. vladnp April 8 2020 16: 32 New
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        Ha, Ha ... Successor ... Is it really not clear that the successor will be faithful to the Zero, and not the country and people.
      3. flicker April 8 2020 18: 03 New
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        All, alas, are mortal. And Putin too. That is precisely why it is better for the country that, while still alive and has not yet lost its “rating,” he would leave and recommend his successor

        laughing
        Well, like, while you are alive, if you love your wife, then recommend your successor to your wife.
        laughing
        Interestingly, your wife will be delighted with such news or will give you a head with a rolling pin?
        But seriously, then
        don’t worry about the successor, Putin’s circle is surrounded by security forces, there will always be successors, and they’re extremely tough.
        Another thing is that Putin is a very experienced politician and with him we are more likely to take a softer path, without much upheaval. And it would be extremely foolish to refuse this experience. bully
        1. Fan-fan April 8 2020 22: 19 New
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          What experience? The demographics are negative, fewer people are born than they die. The economy is not developing, foreign policy is in the pen: they don’t let us into the Olympics, they don’t want to sell us anything, they don’t give us loans, they even put pressure on the Chinese so that they don’t give us anything, they made us supply gas to Ukraine, and even at a European price, 3 The lard of greens was fined in favor of the Ukrainians, the whole world was convinced that we poisoned Skripal and our daughter, they shot down a Boeing in Donbas, and we put the doping of athletes at the state level, even taking away medals from our Olympians for Sochi.
          1. flicker April 9 2020 11: 23 New
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            What experience?

            Well, yes, there are a lot of problems in our country: our economy is weak, and in health and education problems and corruption, and utilities are growing and salaries are low, and we go under sanctions, which in many ways create and exacerbate the above problems. Moreover, we see all this with our own eyes, and therefore it is impossible to convince us, because we cannot but believe our own words.
            And for all this, the head of state - Putin is responsible.
            ***
            That's right, but for example, the diagram:
            We are all adults and we understand that normal body temperature is 36,6, we measure body temperature and see 37,9 and understand that this is a symptom of some kind of unhealthy body. And no one can convince us of this. After all, we are adults and we well know that a healthy body should have a temperature of 36,6.
            The attending physician is to blame!
            All right.
            But only when the attending physician began to heal at the moment when the body temperature was 41.
            During the treatment, it was possible to lower the temperature to 37,9.
            It’s somewhat strange to blame and suspect the doctor that he wants to kill the patient (and after all, many people in VO say this, question: for what purpose are they doing this?) - I would like to kill I would kill when the temperature was 41.

            When Putin headed the state he got: pro-Western oligarchs (remember their "Russian" surnames), corrupt officials (including employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Prosecutor's Office), a defeated army and a tortured, exhausted barely surviving people.

            Question: what forces did he have to rely on to prevent the country from dying? (if inters, they can tell who Putin was forced to lean on to save the country)
            In order to build a just life in the country, first you need to save this country.
            ---
            By 2007, the country came to life, largely due to the fact that the nationalization of the oil sector began, that criminal cases were instituted against corrupt officials, that the personalities of the oligarchy changed, the state budget already increased the income of the oligarchs.
            ---
            But by 2007, Russia faced a different challenge: the population still does not know that the country was facing the threat of a full-scale civil war, in comparison with which the war in Chechnya would seem like an easy walk.
            Cherkesov’s article “We must not allow soldiers to become merchants” is about that time.
            The conflict escaped the valuable efforts of former KGB officers including Kryuchkov, a valuable compromise: instead of Ustinov, Chaika took over.
            Nationalization has stopped, the fight against corruption, too. Once again: paused, not stopped.
            ---
            The Soviet Union was a wonderful state, the healthcare system (sanatoriums, dispensaries, first-aid posts at factories, etc.), the education facilities were built almost perfectly ... you can still list a lot of good things in the Union.
            But, but he collapsed, along with everything wonderful. And it collapsed not because most of the people wanted it, but primarily because the CPSU elite wanted to legitimize their privileges and wanted to merge in ecstasy with the West. That destroyed the country.
            An important point: not the people, but the ELITE destroyed the country. That is, the elite’s possibilities for the collapse of the country are almost more than that of the people (especially if they manipulate the people, we recall the temperature of 37,9)
            ---
            Putin inherited not only a weakened country, but also a pro-Western elite, ready for the merger with the West to allow the collapse of Russia.
            As Shoigu recalled, he (then the Minister of Emergency Situations flew with the newly appointed president) on the plane with the next emergency, Putin was silent then suddenly said "all the same there is a chance to save Russia and this chance must be taken."
            Once again: CHANCE.
            ---
            What is happening now.
            In January, the government changed.
            What does this mean?
            This means a change in the country's movement for integration with the West. This change occurred right after Merkel’s visit to Moscow (it seems that she didn’t bring the best news for us).
            A change of course is an increase in the split of the elites (who are able to break up the country) into pro-Western and national.
            In order to defeat the pro-Western bloodlessly, you need powerful support from the people.
            The pro-Western elite understands this, and therefore fully charges all social networks, including HE, with anti-Putin content (speculating on pandemics).
            And in a hurry, because she understands that before the summer she has no time.
            Continued later.
            1. Aag
              Aag April 9 2020 21: 39 New
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              "Well, yes, there are many problems in our country" ...
              No, it’s true, you started approving lives (hereinafter referred to as the text)., I also believed this earlier (or I wanted to). But realities insistently talk about something else.
              Further in your commentary, you will look at external causes. (Yes, they have always been and will be). But, you must agree, there are no objective arguments for convincing those who doubt that the country is moving in the right, progressive direction, as it were, no longer (?!).
        2. Ingvar 72 April 8 2020 23: 10 New
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          Quote: flicker
          Putin’s entourage is surrounded by many security forces, there will always be successors, and they’re extremely tough.

          And will these tough people crush tanks? I don’t think so.
          To conclude your analogy about your wife, I want to ask you a question - how will your wife behave if you spend a large part of your family’s budget on maintaining your mistress and expensive toys for a long time? At the time when she and the children in the castoffs are walking? I think you will not get off with a rolling pin. wink
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            And will these tough people crush tanks? I don’t think so.

            I also don’t think so, especially the people.
            Who condemns China today for Tiananmen?
            But the people sometimes appear distraught part. Maidan to you as a keepsake.
            So did Yanukovych have to suppress the Maidan or is it too bloody? And how many people died in the Donbass? And how many people died in Ukraine, because of this distraught people on the Maidan? How long has Ukraine left to exist?
            It was necessary to suppress the Maidan or not?
            ***
            how will your wife behave if you spend a large part of the family budget on maintaining your lover and on expensive toys for a long time?

            You have a strange view of the family.
            A family is created when family values ​​become higher than different mistresses and all the more expensive toys. Making lovers means breaking up a family.

            Putin has preserved and strengthened the country, because he appreciates it.

            At the time when she and the children in the castoffs are walking?

            I look and see traffic jams even in the provinces. Moreover, cars are pretty decent. Castoffs?
            Well, do your children walk in cast-offs?

            And yet, do you think it is better to die in expensive boots or survive in holey sandals?
            1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 13: 46 New
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              Quote: flicker
              So did Yanukovych have to suppress the Maidan or is it too bloody?

              Your mistake is that you are discussing ways to solve popular unrest. The main mistake of Yanukovych is not this, but that he brought the country to the Maidan. Now Putin is following the same path.
              Quote: flicker
              Making lovers means breaking up a family.

              To invest in mansions abroad and a stabilization fund in state bonds of countries, likely opponents a way to ruin the country.
              Quote: flicker
              Putin has preserved and strengthened the country, because he appreciates it.

              Judging by the degradation of medicine and education, he strengthened it with a negative value. Count the number of hospitals in the country for the year 2000, and now.
              Quote: flicker
              I look and see traffic jams even in the provinces. Moreover, cars are pretty decent.

              And some one hundred and fifty years ago, the king rode horses. wink Zadolbali you measure the standard of living for cars - in the United States, all unemployed cars have. Let us consider the level of provision of housing and food - these methods are more relevant. In general, there is such a term as median wealth. Although what I mean - you do not care, Ave Putin! laughing
              1. flicker April 9 2020 22: 39 New
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                The main mistake of Yanukovych is not this, but that he brought the country to the Maidan
                Yeah, I brought it to mind:
                Kravchuk - get!
                Kuchma is getting!
                Yushchenko - Get!
                Yanukovych - get!
                Poroshenko - get!
                Zelensky - don't go to your grandmother
                And what about the “country” (at the peak of the Maidan it collected 150 thousand - is this a country?) Is Ukraine breathing easier now?
                Let’s on the level of housing and food
                Let's. Do you have no housing or do you have nothing?
        3. Aag
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          "Another thing is that Putin is a very experienced politician."
          Here I agree with you.
          .
          "finish the journey"...
          Q. Where to?
    3. depressant April 8 2020 16: 34 New
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      Svarog ... Considering that Putin used to be what you need, you rely on the capture of the Crimea - well, not on a flight on horseback. But Crimea is a geopolitical interest. Army, Navy would not be forgiven. And the people of Crimea. And all of Russia. Forced to become "one." He became our fellow traveler, as he became our fellow traveler in the construction of the bridge. And then he returned to his former state as a mercenary of the seven-bankers separate from us. It’s possible to jump above your head once. But constantly, if there is no task and the corresponding level of personality? Dismiss And we, not showing understanding, still regard him as an independent political figure, we all demand something. Not understanding that we are not on the list of his priorities.
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        As it is communist - he did it right, thank him for that, but we don’t like it, and we’ll shoot him.
        As a result - to shoot, to appropriate everything for yourself.
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    It’s time to put things in order in the country, but it seems to me that the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, and there is almost no time left.
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      Duc, he bred this whole muddy mess in the country, moreover, he carefully cherished it and cherished it for 20 years .. How now will it be to destroy its own brainchild with its own hands?
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        And he is afraid to admit that he is an eccentric.
        1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 50 New
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          It's good that he has people like you - smart, honest.
          What would he do without your advice? Perhaps the country would have collapsed long ago.
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      Quote: Ros 56
      It’s time to put things in order in the country, but it seems to me that the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, and there is almost no time left.

      And most likely he is not able to restore order in the sense that you offer. In order to do this, one must have strategic thinking. It is necessary to clearly imagine the image of the future that you are building, and accordingly to successively solve the problems that arise.
      Our president solves problems situationally. The image of the future he has is something between the Russian monarchy and wild capitalism. For some reason, hating everything Soviet, completely denying Leninism and Stalinism, Putin formed a support layer in the form of oligarchic layers and the largest bourgeoisie. The masses of the people became no longer needed in this picture of the world. That's why everything happens as it is.
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        Quote: Antique
        Putin formed a support layer in the form of oligarchic layers and the largest bourgeoisie.

        And now the tail rotates the dog!
        1. antique April 8 2020 16: 46 New
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          And now the tail rotates the dog!
          It is only necessary to add that the dog herself strove for this. When Putin was asked at a press conference who his stratum is and what social strata, he out of habit turned away from a direct answer.
          Because he always knew that power would never be delegated to the people. Because power is being transformed into capital and vice versa. And we see this very well with the example of government bodies. When the overwhelming majority of deputies are millionaires, or billionaires, the same thing is in SovFed. A federal minister is usually a dollar millionaire or multi-millionaire. Well and so on.
          1. Ros 56 April 9 2020 08: 11 New
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            Dear porridge in your head - Because he always knew that power would never be delegated to the people. Everything is exactly the opposite, this people delegates power to the president and deputies, since he himself is the source of power.
            1. antique April 9 2020 08: 22 New
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              Quote: Ros 56
              Everything is exactly the opposite, this people delegates power to the president and deputies, since he himself is the source of power.

              That is how it should be. In fact, as a result of a powerful brainwashing of the population, the destruction of the opposition, massive and regular election fraud, changes in laws and the Constitution, everything happens as I wrote. Power with the people, power is not going to be divided.
              From the very beginning of his political career, it was about 90 years, Putin clearly understood the importance of manipulative influences on legislative structures. Including the Constitutional Court. And there is clear evidence of this.
              Therefore, I am right. And about the porridge in the head, leave it to yourself.
              1. Gost2012 April 9 2020 12: 41 New
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                Quote: Antique
                Quote: Ros 56
                Everything is exactly the opposite, this people delegates power to the president and deputies, since he himself is the source of power.

                That is how it should be. In fact, as a result of a powerful brainwashing of the population, the destruction of the opposition, massive and regular election fraud, changes in laws and the Constitution, everything happens as I wrote. Power with the people, power is not going to be divided.
                From the very beginning of his political career, it was about 90 years, Putin clearly understood the importance of manipulative influences on legislative structures. Including the Constitutional Court. And there is clear evidence of this.
                Therefore, I am right. And about the porridge in the head, leave it to yourself.

                facts of the annihilation of the opposition, massive and regular election fraud, clear evidence of manipulative influences on the legislative structures and the Constitutional Court - in the studio, or a talker and yap.
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                  Quote: Gost2012
                  facts of the annihilation of the opposition, massive and regular election fraud, clear evidence of manipulative influences on the legislative structures and the Constitutional Court - in the studio, or a talker and yap.

                  Wow, as it is written! Experienced career activist. Immediately visible. I do not feed trolls. Goodbye.
                  1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 52 New
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                    So are there facts, or not?
                    What troll burst? You at your communist seminars taught to be rude and answer a question with a question?
                2. Revival April 9 2020 18: 59 New
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                  Well, here you are about the Constitutional Court: according to the same constitution, the Constitutional Court previously ruled that ebn should no longer be elected, but now it has rendered the opposite that n is possible. Shyly explaining this by the fact that it is not necessary to perceive the relationship here, since the historical moment is different, although the law is one and the same.
                  "Understand, yes!").
                  At this point, the cop finally legally fell to the bottom
    3. flicker April 8 2020 14: 40 New
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      It’s time to put things in order in the country, but it seems to me that the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, and there is almost no time left.

      A change of government is essentially a sign of a change from a pro-Western course. After the change of government, the split between the elites intensified (into pro-Western and national). For an unconditional victory, Putin needed powerful support from the people - hence the adoption of amendments through a nationwide poll. The strong support of the people would not allow deputies to preserve real estate abroad.
      The pro-Western elite in response powerfully charged the "scribble-provocateurs" who drove the anti-Putin (read: anti-Russian) waves under the guise of "folk".
      Immediately excited forever dissatisfied with "curds and atases" and all sorts of Bandera and "patriots of Israel."

      And the deputies took it all together supporting the amendments (amendments necessary for the country!), As if making the president understand that they are more true than the people. bully

      But there is no silver lining. All the busiters are already on the pencil, soon they will hit their financiers. It will be fun. bully
      1. Kronos April 8 2020 15: 05 New
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        Are you preparing to sign up for the black rascals or the Cossack that shed the blood of the common people like under the tsar?
        1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 19: 33 New
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          And count how much blood Nikolashka shed and how many Bolsheviks? Well, which of them is bloody?
          1. Kronos April 8 2020 19: 34 New
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            Nicholas of course and his fans
            1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 19: 49 New
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              Yes, you teach history! Among the White movement of the monarchists was once or twice and miscalculated. General Alekseev, one of the founders of the movement, was one of those who forced Nikolai to abdicate. For the entire reign of Nikolai Slyunyavy, died in riots and executed by court verdicts 17 total 17 thousand people. On the conscience of the Bolsheviks, hundreds of thousands. And this is without the Civil War.
              1. Kronos April 8 2020 21: 47 New
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                In one hodynka far more than 17 people died, the Lensky execution of a thousand hanged by Stolypin sentences
                1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 22: 34 New
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                  Again - learn the story. About 1400 people died on Khodynka, mainly because of their own stupidity: a stampede for a free drink and a snack. And this is not repression. Lensky execution of 1912 - 250 - 300 dead. And there was also the Lensky execution of 1938. There, the Bolsheviks shot four times more than the tsarist authorities in 1912. So, taking into account the events of 1905, 17 thousand were repressed for the entire reign of Nicholas II. And in just a few months of 1918, over 60 thousand were destroyed by the Bolsheviks in Petrograd alone.
                  But, for some reason, the "bloody" - Nikolasha. Although compared to Lenin, he is a kitten.
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                    Bolsheviks shot as.ivanovs and vadimov wink ....
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                      Quote: Popuas
                      Bolsheviks shot as.ivanovs and vadimov wink ....

                      The popoids could also go under the distribution ... one name would be enough - popoats! - continuous counterrevolution, of course to shoot ..
                      1. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 56 New
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                        A more bloody, cynical regime than the communist one did not exist in history. It would seem all on this.
                        So no, again some are trying to raise this banner soaked in blood.
          2. Revival April 9 2020 19: 01 New
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            If Tsarek Niki 2 took care of the people, and not shed blood in response to just demands, then he would not have finished in the pit
            1. AU Ivanov. April 9 2020 19: 32 New
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              And I thought that Nikolas was pushed by his entourage, the highest generals and the then oligarchy. But it turns out the people, in how. Urgently open a history textbook.
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        The strong support of the people would not allow deputies to preserve real estate abroad.
        The paragraph on real estate quietly disappeared from the amendments.
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          And that - all foreign real estate is now very easily seized by the decision of the local authorities of those countries where this property is purchased and the block is blocked. Happy days for our crooks are over.
          1. depressant April 8 2020 18: 24 New
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            Vadim, how easily you reason! Three trillion dollars brought the villains of the oligarchs abroad! And yes, their bank accounts, real estate and yachts will be arrested - and all this good, which, by moral law, belongs to our people, will go to the strategic adversary. But what about Putin? He "persuaded"! He persuaded the oligarchs to return the money to Russia. And this is the position of the head of state?!? I tried to persuade ... And when one person, naively believing him, returned the capital to Russia and the investigating authorities started brutally gutting him, Putin stood by and watched the process of evisceration calmly. Yes, his shout would be enough to stop this shame, but he said nothing. Therefore, only 2016 billion have returned since 15. I can’t calm down - three trillion! As if the country blossomed even with one in the form of cash. It turns out that he did not insist, did not formulate laws prohibiting the withdrawal of capital, and did not even persuade - he simply informed that this could happen. So the oligarchs themselves knew this. My God, who rules us ...
            1. Vadim237 April 9 2020 15: 21 New
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              Do you have any documents that the oligarchs withdrew three trillion dollars from Russia - one grandmother said calculations of documents or information from the category - and others retold? I know for sure that from 2000 to 2014, 1,5 trillion dollars were invested in Russia from abroad, let half of this money come from offshore companies but they worked in Russia - there is no money in the vacuum from the whole economy, they are always on the move and everyone uses someone else’s services and goods, even those that were spent inappropriately and all the oligarchs and billionaires of whom 120 pay their taxes locally in Russia and then only withdraw money abroad and pay wages and they produce and buy everything else in Russia since all of them are produced Your factory has stores and enterprises located in Russia. And what kind of law is it that prohibits the withdrawal of capital? I paid further that I do it with my money, and you and the state have no right to indicate me as well as foreign investors in this matter - you can ask but you cannot demand as it is already getting into the management of private business.
              "I can’t calm down - three trillion!" Take the pill - and read less any junk.
              1. Revival April 9 2020 19: 05 New
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                Do you have any documents that from the year 2000 to 2014, 1,5 trillion dollars were invested in Russia from abroad?
      3. tatra April 8 2020 15: 25 New
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        All these calls "Putin needs our support", we have already heard enough before the presidential elections in Russia in 2018. People came, voted for him, and after a couple of months Putin “thanked” them by raising his retirement age, while also proving that he could not be trusted.
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          Quote: tatra
          All these calls "Putin needs our support," we have already heard enough before the presidential elections in Russia in 2018. People came, voted for him, and after a couple of months Putin “thanked” them by raising his retirement age, while also proving that he could not be trusted.

          And not yet evening, he again all, as he wants to breed the last suckers.
        2. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 57 New
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          You are local communists, you can not go to what elections. Your 30 people will not affect anything.
          1. tatra April 9 2020 17: 15 New
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            Only now you are not able to answer, who are YOURS who, under this Yeltsin-Putin regime, "are now better than under the Communists"
        3. Aag
          Aag April 9 2020 22: 12 New
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          "Putin" thanked them "raising the retirement age" ....
          On the day of the opening of the World Cup. Not a fan, but an event of this level, and even on domestic sites, an event! (At whose expense, in whose interests?).
      4. Aag
        Aag April 9 2020 21: 59 New
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        "A change of government is essentially a sign, a change from the pro-Western course" ...
        Or maybe it’s all a bit different: “This is our cow, and we will milk it!” And under the guise of national interests.
    4. Overlock April 8 2020 14: 41 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, but there is almost no time left.

      So he is not Taras Bulba!

      It's a pity to kill mine. do-it-yourself
    5. bk316 April 8 2020 14: 44 New
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      the darkest of which is shy

      Shy?
      Is that subtle humor?
    6. NordUral April 8 2020 14: 58 New
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      We haven’t given him a reason yet, that’s “shy”, Yuri.
    7. Mebius April 8 2020 15: 17 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      It’s time to put things in order in the country, but it seems to me that the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, and there is almost no time left.

      Putin (the darkest) simply does not want a civil war .. And in general, a war, he knows what it is by his parents and other relatives .. hi
      And the more protesters slander him in the West, the more trust he has in Russia (although there are a lot of questions, etc.) ..
      These are the things in the villages of the province of Russia hi

      That's how we live..))))
      1. flicker April 8 2020 21: 55 New
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        Putin (the darkest) just doesn't want a civil war

        To many here in VO does not reach.
        Outside here, kneading is planned not for life, but for death, so there was still not enough civil war.
        The West (geldings) really want to provoke a civil war in our country, so especially exalted citizens join in to help them.
        Putin wanted to softly consolidate the country, but it seems he will have to be tough.

        The batch seems to be serious, but China and I are in the same boat.
        The Chinese introduced constitutional amendments to extend the term of Xi Jinping's rule.
        Extension of the term as a guarantee of inviolability for partnership arrangements.
        China wants the same guarantees from us - they trust Putin (one of the factors of "zeroing") and are extremely interested in Putin's presidency.
        The Anglo-Saxons want to break this alliance, they understand that they will not agree with Putin, and therefore they are hoping for a successor.
        In this situation, we urgently need internal stability and it will be achieved: it will not work out gently, it will be tough.
        Putin (the darkest) just doesn't want a civil war
        1. Aag
          Aag April 9 2020 22: 26 New
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          "but we are in the same boat with China" ...
          Do not put the Chinese in my boat! They already flooded the whole deck, it is hard to breathe in the hold (Irk. Region.)
          "The Anglo-Saxons want to break this alliance," ...
          Take a look at Wiki, estimate the share of shares of all hydroelectric power stations in the Angara basin, aluminum, a hackneyed topic .... We haven’t looked into the taiga yet (or rather, what is left of it)!
          1. Aag
            Aag April 9 2020 22: 38 New
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            I don’t want civilization, I don’t want any other! But I don’t need consolidation either. And I don’t need about SCRAPY. There was power earlier, Soyuz. Yes, somewhere drawn, somewhere, even far-fetched, but you are for a strong hand. , - arranged a large part of the population. Yes, and in the world arena in some positions was, if not the first, then in stable leaders.
            ... what is now being bitten ...
      2. Revival April 9 2020 19: 07 New
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        His trust in Russia almost nullified
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      Hitting the clave and impulsing you are not even in the country, but you will not restore order in your life.
  • Lamata April 8 2020 14: 16 New
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    It is time for the darkest man to leave. Go away uncle, just go away.
    1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 14: 30 New
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      And who will take the place of "leave"? Do not cry?
      1. Lamata April 8 2020 14: 32 New
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        Here you are under my breath, nothing to say. Everything is cleared.
        1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 14: 40 New
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          We have already thought once: Gorbachev will leave and heal, as in Christ's bosom.
      2. Overlock April 8 2020 14: 53 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        And who will take the place of "leave"? Do not cry?

        a holy place is never empty. Possess the spell of immortality of a 67-year-old man?
      3. NordUral April 8 2020 14: 56 New
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        The dead don't cry, Andrew. And this threatens the country with this not childishly.
      4. Revival April 9 2020 19: 08 New
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        Already burst into tears without "leave"
    2. Stas157 April 8 2020 14: 34 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      It's darkest time to leave like a man. Go away uncle, just go away.

      After zeroing does not work. Quite a frivolous procedure. Sandbox Games.
    3. Mebius April 8 2020 14: 37 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      It is time for the darkest man to leave. Go away uncle, just go away.

      And who do you suggest? There are millions of such statements online, but there are no specific individuals to replace, except for anal and K.
      Let's create an alternative, etc. Or just poke, how has long been fashionable in interest? hi
      1. Lamata April 8 2020 14: 42 New
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        I told her, nobody cleaned up. There is no one to offer
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          Quote: Lamata
          I told her, nobody cleaned up. There is no one to offer

          But why is this nagging then all over the world ..?
          Maybe if there is no one, then Russia will self-destruct? How good it will be .. In the whole world, democracy will immediately be established))))
          Or vice versa, under Putin and Russia it was good laughing
          1. Lamata April 8 2020 17: 48 New
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            Propose a candidacy, pliz.
            1. flicker April 8 2020 20: 10 New
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              Propose a candidacy, pliz.

              Netanyahu bully
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                I warn you, I am anti-Semitic))))) but moderate.
            2. Fan-fan April 8 2020 22: 27 New
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              Propose a candidacy, pliz.

              Once again I say, the candidacy is any of those who were not afraid to publicly oppose the pension robbery.
      2. NordUral April 8 2020 14: 54 New
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        He voted for Grudinin and will vote for him again if he goes to the polls. And it won’t work, he’s not the only one in the country who deserves to become the President of the Renaissance.
        1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 15: 03 New
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          The populist Grudinin, an ordinary populist. There is not a single figure who, like Churchill, honestly declared: "I can offer nothing but blood, hard work, tears and sweat." I would believe him.
          1. NordUral April 8 2020 15: 08 New
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            You have mixed up a surname, Andrey. It is written like this - PUTIN.
            And even if they are right, then let him work on the scale of the whole country with this "populism" that he arranged in his village.
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          He voted for Grudinin and will vote for him again if he goes to the polls.

          Hmm, according to Senka and a hat ... repeat
          1. Fan-fan April 8 2020 22: 30 New
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            Have you seen what kind of life Grudinin organized for people at his state farm? I haven’t seen, but you are persecuting lies. The Internet is full of about the Grudininsky state farm.
            1. Ingvar 72 April 8 2020 23: 17 New
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              I haven’t seen, but you are persecuting lies.

              This work. request For the ostentatious lack of alternatives is the same method of manipulation. hi
              1. ser56 April 9 2020 13: 51 New
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                For the ostentatious lack of alternatives is the same method of manipulation.

                another specialist in special propaganda .... bully
            2. ser56 April 9 2020 13: 50 New
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              Quote: Fan-Fan
              Have you seen

              I don’t need to poke - rude to my wife, if you have .... hi
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              what life did Grudinin organize for his people at his state farm? I haven’t seen, but you are persecuting lies. The Internet is full of about the Grudininsky state farm.

              1) I recommend that you familiarize yourself with how he robbed his collective farmers with the land, and withdrew the money over a hill ... bully
              https://newizv.ru/news/society/13-01-2018/kolhoznik-grudinin-hranit-tsennosti-v-elitarnom-ofshore
              2) "Initially, more than 500 people participated in the privatization of the Lenin State Farm, and now Grudinin himself holds almost half of the shares." Https://rueconomics.ru/299788-kommunisticheskii-oligarh-chem-obernetsya-kprf-avantyura-s- kandidatom-grudininym
              3) maybe you are lying? bully
      3. Overlock April 8 2020 14: 56 New
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        Quote: Mobius
        And who do you suggest?

        let’s look at the debate with Putin’s participation, the strongest will be determined
        Quote: Mobius
        but there are no specific individuals to replace

        so it’s the fault and misfortune of Putin himself, who has been driving a bulldozer in the clearing of competitors for 20 years
    4. knn54 April 8 2020 14: 53 New
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      "The specialist is similar to flux, its fullness is one-sided." (Kuzma Prutkov).
      EVERYONE BELIEVE. Not to be confused with believers.
      1. ALL budget employees were not paid salaries for six months, and for some for a year.
      2. Emergency services (police, ambulance. Emergency gangs) were given 20 liters of gasoline per car. That is, well, very often they simply could not come to the call.
      3. The war in Chechnya, smoldering conflicts in other regions of the UK.
      4. Endless loans with constant wars of the oligarchs. The mass of showdowns and contract killings.
      5. More than 40% of deviators from military service.
      6. In 2000, the country's gold and foreign exchange reserves amounted to TOTAL 12,5 million dollars.
      7. The natural population decline (up to 500000 per year) was stopped 10 years ago.
      Enough? EVERYTHING it was before the darkest, or what is Putin called there? Everyone who is 50 or more remembers it well!
      1. NordUral April 8 2020 15: 31 New
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        Does it lead to any conclusions?
        1. depressant April 8 2020 18: 44 New
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          NordUral, I will add. The natural population decline, according to ROSSTAT, for 2019 amounted to 259.6 thousand people. The Central region, the Russian plain, turned out to be especially dying. If necessary, I can give a layout for the regions. It seems that Putin’s apologists, having no worthy arguments in support of him, are turning to outright lies. Apparently, counting on the lack of information of people. So after all, access to data is not closed! Moreover, the government is the government! - was depressed by the current situation with the extinction of the population. Think where the measures to support families come from? We had topics here, we discussed this catastrophe. But here comes a man and with an innocent look declares that Putin’s extinction here, it turns out, stopped 10 years ago ... Just a circus!
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            Good afternoon, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! Be sure to post the data, otherwise there are so many apologists for the indispensability of this and these, and their only true path to the abyss.
            1. depressant April 8 2020 21: 33 New
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              Yes, that's just part of the table for 2019.
              The natural, mind you, population decline in thousands of people.
              Linen. area - 27.12/XNUMX
              Moscow - 11.93
              Kaliningrad - 3.31
              Kaluga - 11.56
              Belgorod - 16.52
              Voronezh - 35.1
              Samara - 23.41
              Yaroslavskaya - 17.01/XNUMX
              Lipetsk - 15.31
              Kursk - 19.3
              Nizhny Novgorod --40.76
              Ryazan - 18.34
              And so on ...
              The Russian plain is dying. And here fairy tales tell us that the king, as usual, is great and bright. So I managed that, apart from the Tajiks, no one will remain in our original territory.
              1. Aag
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                Well, you nits, you don’t want to work for a penny no social guarantees. There are no irreplaceable ones (below)! I can’t say this, albeit with a narrow section of the eyes of the children. And the Guarantor may and Must (soft, but confident and tough) .
      2. flicker April 8 2020 20: 17 New
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        1. ALL budget employees were not paid salaries for six months, and for some for a year.
        2. Emergency services (police, ambulance. Emergency gangs) were given 20 liters of gasoline per car. That is, well, very often they simply could not come to the call.
        3. The war in Chechnya, smoldering conflicts in other regions of the UK.
        4. Endless loans with constant wars of the oligarchs. The mass of showdowns and contract killings.
        5. More than 40% of deviators from military service.
        6. In 2000, the country's gold and foreign exchange reserves amounted to TOTAL 12,5 million dollars.
        7. The natural population decline (up to 500000 per year) was stopped 10 years ago.
        Enough? EVERYTHING it was before the darkest, or what is Putin called there? Everyone who is 50 or more remembers it well!

        All true.
        Only here the audience is special, for them the ideal is Ukraine:
        Kravchuk - get!
        Kuchma is getting!
        Yushchenko - Get!
        Yanukovych - get!
        Poroshenko - get!
        Zelensky - G ...
        bully
    5. flicker April 8 2020 22: 06 New
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      It is time for the darkest man to leave. Go away uncle, just go away.
      Do not worry.
      According to Kissinger’s forecast in a year, maybe in two Israel will cease to exist. This forecast has a good reason. What do you think?
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        Quote: flicker
        It is time for the darkest man to leave. Go away uncle, just go away.
        Do not worry.
        According to Kissinger’s forecast in a year, maybe in two Israel will cease to exist. This forecast has a good reason.

        There is no hope laughing
        1. flicker April 8 2020 22: 14 New
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          There is no hope

          I just hope that you stand.
          And you: "do not hope" bully
    6. Mestny April 9 2020 16: 59 New
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      Who decided this? You?
      Just do not say "this is the people."
      People decide differently.
  • lot
    lot April 8 2020 14: 17 New
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    Comp is old. will not pull.
  • bubalik April 8 2020 14: 17 New
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    Remember the wild capitalism of the 90s? Or another example. Soviet history.

    Remember the movies of that period? All these "Penalties", "Bastards"

    ,, what, what period? Shtrafbat (2004), Bastards (2006).
    Alexander, a bad example.
    1. 3x3zsave April 8 2020 14: 26 New
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      Well, I think "Saboteur" is a decent series
      1. Lamata April 8 2020 14: 32 New
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        This you tell those who know))))
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          Sorry, I didn’t understand the message ....
          1. Lamata April 8 2020 14: 42 New
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            About a saboteur, he was friendly with comrades from Afghanistan, they only laughed
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              Oh, got it. Did you communicate with the “deep-sea” or DShBshnikami?
              1. Lamata April 8 2020 14: 56 New
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                one reconnaissance commander the second pear
                1. 3x3zsave April 8 2020 15: 03 New
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                  Well, the pearman could still smile, but the DShB battalion commander was sinful.
                  1. Lamata April 8 2020 15: 13 New
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                    not a battalion commander of the DShB, but a commander of a military base baht 316 (not a mission) division in Afghanistan. GRUshnik, I’m very interested in what he was doing in Senegal.
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                      , I’m very interested in what he did in Senegal.
                      It’s better not to ask such a question.
                      I, about 20 years ago, became interested: in what local conflicts, the second half of the 20th century, did our specialists not participate? I found the answer for myself: in the occupation of Grenada! On that and calmed down.
                      1. Lamata April 8 2020 17: 50 New
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                        Are you sure that among the Cuban workers our foremen were not))))
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                        At first - I think it was not, then - at full height!
    2. Svarog April 8 2020 14: 34 New
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      Well, I think "Saboteur" is a decent series

      And I think this film is the best in post-Soviet Russia. This is generally one of my favorite films about the Second World War. Already 10 times watched .. laughing
      1. 3x3zsave April 8 2020 14: 44 New
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        There is also the Brest Fortress and, in my opinion, the 28 Panfilov’s.
        As for the film, he also reviewed it many times. One of such people at my school taught history, gave us lessons several times, on “substitutions”
        1. Lamata April 8 2020 14: 48 New
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          The fortress is a strong film and 28 Panfilov’s people are good, one phrase - And the Kazakhs, whether they are not Russians or something, a German will come to Kazakhstan, we will show everyone what Kazakhs we are.)))
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            Yes, just for the sake of this phrase it was worth making a film.
    3. bubalik April 8 2020 14: 35 New
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      3x3zsave (Anton) Today, 15: 26

      ,, I would put the Apostle in a row with him.
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        Good movie, but too many "stretch".
  • Mebius April 8 2020 14: 39 New
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    Quote: bubalik
    Remember the wild capitalism of the 90s? Or another example. Soviet history.

    Remember the movies of that period? All these "Penalties", "Bastards"

    ,, what, what period? Shtrafbat (2004), Bastards (2006).
    Alexander, a bad example.

    Here they are victims of the Unified State Exam .. By the way, in the State Duma there is already a project on the abolition of this Western dope in training .. It's time to return the Soviet standard of education !!!!
    Well, how can you communicate with them here, if only to shoot .. negative
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      I, a threesome in physics, and I know better than the victims of the exam
    2. bubalik April 8 2020 14: 47 New
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      Here they are victims of the exam
      ,, as far as I remember The author is a former military officer.
      Or are you talking to me? victim of the exam belay laughing
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        Quote: bubalik
        former military officer.

        Former officers do not exist! wink bully
    3. 3x3zsave April 8 2020 15: 38 New
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      And you do not communicate here! Make a man’s act, come to the district school, at the time of the Sabbath of the exam in history, with a light machine gun. And fill all nafig !!!! laughing
      1. bubalik April 8 2020 18: 53 New
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        And fill all nafig !!
        Anton belay you wanted to say ,, fill up ”with your knowledge?
        1. 3x3zsave April 8 2020 20: 02 New
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          No, Sergey. I suggested that the character commit an act that falls under Articles 131 and 150 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, rather than brandishing his own charmed diapers. USE is to blame for him, damn it !!!
      2. Lamata April 8 2020 19: 26 New
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        And at an interview with lawyers I asked one question, what is the right of ownership, rained down, If I, my favorite civil law teacher would ask and I would not answer, scribe, it would be a disgrace
  • Doccor18 April 8 2020 14: 47 New
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    Here are the films "Gu-ha" (1989), also about the penal battalion. But with the “Shtrafbat” can not be compared. It can be seen in 89 there were still people who remembered how it was. Well, "Bastards" - this is generally nonsense schizophrenic.
    1. Lamata April 8 2020 14: 57 New
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      Penalty in general, mmm, beautiful, but stupid.
  • Alexey Polyakh April 8 2020 14: 20 New
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    Land, 20 acres (2000 sq.m. (two thousand square meters)) - to each adult Citizen. Muscovite - in MOSCOW. A resident of St. Petersburg - in PETERSBURG. Etc. Land, in the amount of 1 (one) piece, With the possibility of exchange for other cities. For the construction of a house and the arrangement of gardening ... WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications.
    i.e. NOT in -kukuevo.
    For a Russian business of all calibers, this will be the least evil ...
    1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 14: 29 New
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      Your record sticks. Wipe the cartridge. At least with alcohol.
      1. Alexey Polyakh April 8 2020 14: 33 New
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        Yes, and you are not far behind
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        Alcohol !!! What are you !!! Alcohol only eat.
  • DMB 75 April 8 2020 14: 20 New
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    Horses do not change at the crossing!

    Yeah. We’ve been listening to this mantra for 20 years. And don’t rock the boat yet, you like in Ukraine, who if not him, there’s no money but you hold on, treat with understanding, etc. etc. I’m tired of it. And you have to go to the polls, I don’t understand those who don’t go. With your failed votes, you will have pension reforms, gasoline prices and all that sort of thing ..
    1. Lamata April 8 2020 14: 33 New
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      What to take from a person who has sworn an oath.
  • Hagalaz April 8 2020 14: 20 New
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    And will the new OS get on the old hardware?
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      Quote: Hagalaz
      And will the new OS get on the old hardware?

      try, but it’s so clear, it won’t boot, there will be a "blue screen of death"
      1. Hagalaz April 8 2020 14: 57 New
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        Once, a long time ago, in the old issue of the magazine “Behind the Wheel”, under the heading of questions and answers, I read: a question was asked (not verbatim) whether it is possible to put a certain part from a particular model of one car on another of the same brand. To which the answer was given that it is possible to deliver, only it will not work.
        So do not even offer, I will not try.
    2. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 14: 44 New
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      The main driver for the old iron pick up.
      1. Hagalaz April 8 2020 14: 50 New
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        Are you talking about magic pendal?
      2. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 14: 52 New
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        No, I'm talking about professionals - professionals. Iron can also crumble from a kick. Thirty years ago it happened.
      3. Overlock April 8 2020 14: 57 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        The main driver for the old iron pick up.

        put the old memory and disk on the cable and forward to the future laughing
    3. mole April 8 2020 14: 57 New
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      Iron upgrade? wink
    4. Pashhenko Nikolay April 8 2020 15: 46 New
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      Sooner or later, it will have to be installed. But the later the iron will age.
  • Thrifty April 8 2020 14: 21 New
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    It’s just that in one cart two horses from different sides were harnessed to meet one another, and therefore it comes out — a step forward, two back, three to the side!
    1. NordUral April 8 2020 14: 52 New
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      No, thrifty, these horses have a well-coordinated team. Only she jumps off to the side, which is useful to Russia and us, her people.
  • NEXUS April 8 2020 14: 22 New
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    Something strange is happening in the world. Humanity ceases to believe. The pandemic has become a litmus test, which shows precisely this attitude of the majority towards specialists, towards analysts, towards governments. Ordinary people, repeatedly deceived and "used", began to be skeptical of everything that is said, written or inspired by the TV.

    Human distrust began from the moment when something completely ceased to depend on these simplest people.
    1. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 14: 48 New
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      as if once something depended on us) 17 year old women and half of the country with their convictions were left behind. 91 year old women and the same thing. we can’t stand another babakh.
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        as if once something depended on us) 17 year old women and half of the country with their convictions were left behind. 91 year old women and the same thing. we can’t stand another babakh.

        Many still firmly believe that in the elections they choose something there.
        1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 14: 55 New
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          In the local elections they just choose. There are even more dirty tricks from local authorities than from the supreme.
          1. NEXUS April 8 2020 14: 57 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            In the local elections they just choose.

            Yeah ... and after reading the news, the mayor of some town of Tmytarakan was detained, due to exorbitant hairy paws and boundless love for banknotes. And then the people chose his type.
            1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 14: 59 New
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              Those who did not appear at the polls “chose” him. Have you seen the appearance of citizens in local elections?
              1. NEXUS April 8 2020 15: 03 New
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Those who did not appear at the polls “chose” him. Have you seen the appearance of citizens in local elections?

                And so everywhere ... it’s easier to throw everything away, and not to think that nepotism, protestation, PR campaigns and stupidly promises that only stupid and paralytic believes in at the initial stage are trends today.
                1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 15: 14 New
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                  In my small homeland, they chose the same prokhendey, about whom the whole village knew that it was a prokhendey. They chose without appearing at the polls. In local elections, it’s difficult to manipulate anything. Yes, and in elections of the highest order, with one hundred percent turnout, you can cheat 10-20 percent, but it will not work anymore.
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          at least by choosing you can say that you did what you could. I generally ignoring the elections completely tell myself that I do not care who will be in power. and this is my decision)
          1. NEXUS April 8 2020 15: 08 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            at least by choosing you can say that you did what you could. I generally ignoring the elections completely tell myself that I do not care who will be in power. and this is my decision)

            Each time, I am more and more inclined to the idea that the socialist system or the capitalist or feudal system are all models of the incorrect construction of society. Since they always have the rich and the poor, wars, ambitions, etc. We chose EBN, has it become easier? We chose the tagged? Become happier?
            1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 15: 27 New
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              Man is imperfect and everything created by him too. Well this is a philosophy. Until we have a normal civil society, we will deserve the government that we deserve for our indifference. In other words, there is always a shepherd for the herd. And in the pack, (the pack is a collective) - there is a leader.
            2. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 15: 33 New
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              exactly. there is no panacea. there are simply strong and weak.
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                Pilot Ivanov, support!
                But how to create it - civil society? Dog lovers and cat people unite with impunity. But as soon as normal people try to unite with an acceptable political program, they are immediately being defamed, attributing terrorist concerns, being seized, judged, etc. The opposition, fed up by the authorities, crawls out to the rallies, portraying discontent at showing the whole world - a showcase of democracy. And the people ... The people, by the way, understand who is who. The boiler boils softly.
    2. NordUral April 8 2020 14: 50 New
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      Human distrust began from the moment when something completely ceased to depend on these simplest people.

      Nothing really depends on those who sit in the bushes.
  • Thrifty April 8 2020 14: 23 New
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    There is no way for the country to change the leader, for haggy people are climbing to power from politics and hypocrites, and those who usurped power will not allow a specialist, especially in the field of economics, to power!
    1. NordUral April 8 2020 14: 48 New
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      We will not vote for alternative ones, for example, for Grudin (he actually showed how the country can live), so there will be grabbers and thieves in power. I agree that he doesn’t like everyone, but why not try to live with him, where he is the President, and not the guarantor of dumping us anywhere. At least once to try, than to whine after the election, they say, I did not know that the "guarantor" of such a junk.
      1. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 15: 03 New
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        what did he show sorry? how can a country live? on what example? What are you about ?))))
        1. NordUral April 8 2020 15: 10 New
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          He did not show, he made his village.
          1. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 15: 37 New
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            Mon Colonel)))) This is not an example, but simply an indicator of work at its level. I have seen dozens of times how people who know how to command a company well completely messed up commanding a battalion. it is figurative but the meaning shows in full. and if you don’t go into details like losing trials to your own shareholders and going to the radio for freedom to give interviews.
            1. NordUral April 8 2020 16: 55 New
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              And the level of the club?
              PS I went to the pharmacy (Peter, by the way) and inspired the view of the streets: night, street, street lamp, pharmacy ....... everything will be like that, there’s no outcome ...
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                you know, sometimes I don’t understand people ... and what they say. I told you openly that it does not matter who this person is if he does his job well. I want to know why you think that this is enough to lead the state?
                1. NordUral April 8 2020 18: 03 New
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                  My life experience tells me this. Yes, he is not alone, but in a team of people competent for governing the country.
                  And the counter-question - why do you think that he will not be able to successfully lead the country, Dmitry?
                  1. carstorm 11 April 8 2020 22: 31 New
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                    country may be. There is no Russia. he does not understand her. he goes to radio freedom and gives an interview there. just one stupid step like that says it all. next step will be a speech in the US Congress? his own printed organ all the same. he just did not understand that in Russia, first of all, you need to be your own
                    1. NordUral April 8 2020 22: 43 New
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                      On this "freedom" who just does not speak with his tongue. But they blocked Grudinin, except for YouTube. So he tried to expand the reach of listeners. It may be a mistake, but the enemy must be used for the good of the cause.
    2. Stas157 April 8 2020 14: 49 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      The country does not have the opportunity to change the leader, for power haggy climb from politics and hypocrites

      What is going on! Horror!!! Who is this allowed?

      If you leave everything as it is, without a change of leader, then they will climb to power hanygi from politics and hypocrites.
  • Van 16 April 8 2020 14: 30 New
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    The current coachman has been crossing for twenty years, and the end of the crossing is not even visible.
    And to stop scratching your tongue - this is again to him, to the one who does not change. Neither at the crossing, nor where.
    And we ... I think the majority of the people, (including those on the site) honestly do their job, who are doctors, who are engineers, who are workers, and have every right to express their opinion on horses, crossings, bridges. Whatever it is.
    1. Avior April 8 2020 14: 44 New
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      The current coachman has been crossing for twenty years, and the end of the crossing is not even visible.

      not across, but along the river smile
      And also the sea will be somewhere ....
      1. Van 16 April 8 2020 15: 05 New
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        Ah, yes, and somewhere in the fog the galley still looms))
  • Overlock April 8 2020 14: 37 New
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    And for your age, "carts" and "bridges" are enough.

    Unfortunately, and cones too.
    If we recall the lessons of botany about the process of formation of the swamp, then we now have a swamp. The fontanels were flooded with concrete, the banks were again flooded with them, and the power was behind a large concrete wall on which the armed guard. And so they lived: the elite behind the wall, the people under the wall.
    It is not necessary to change the operating system, it is necessary to demolish the concrete wall between the people and the authorities. And the matter is not in personalities, but in this very wall.
    A simple example: a country suffocates without medical equipment, the virus mows thousands, there isn’t that, and Sobyanin concluded the largest contract for the purchase of concrete borders totaling 3,2 billion rubles. Earlier, Moskovskaya Gazeta wrote that tenders were held in the capital for the purchase of “concrete products” totaling about 6,8 billion rubles.
    And the order is received by the only participant in the competition - the trustee of Putin and Sobyanin request
    Well, it seems we live in different countries
    1. NordUral April 8 2020 14: 44 New
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      We have been swimming for a long time.
    2. bubalik April 8 2020 14: 53 New
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      ,,, yes there is already another tender for 12 lard yes
    3. mole April 8 2020 15: 07 New
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      It’s necessary to transfer the capital!
      For example, to Siberia! To rebuild the city, infrastructure from scratch, nearby villages with service staff, put all the embassies there. The city is closed, official housing, public transport, unless the President is allowed to move on the official. Furnished office housing. Well, like in a garrison. But everything is under supervision. A character with a box of money flew in: Why, to whom, for what? The construction and maintenance of such a ZATO for the budget will probably get cheaper.
      Officials will play, but bureaucratic service-service for the good of the State! Well, let them stand the "hardships"! wink
      1. Vadim237 April 9 2020 15: 24 New
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        Yes, not a problem - prepare a dozen trillions of rubles, the transfer of the capital will be exclusively at your expense.
        1. mole April 9 2020 16: 12 New
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          Calculate not only the direct costs of maintaining all the power in Moscow, but also the indirect ones. Everything will be compact, everything under control. Espionage will become difficult to realize, bribes in the Capital are unlikely, clerks ride on public transport, purchase feed from the same source, prepare and feed the same way, all state officials are equal or about.
          All the same, due to the budget are provided. But: a minimum of temptations, a maximum of time to think about Russia!
          And for the money, an example is the Vostochny spaceport. No spaceport, no money.
          The question is not money, the question is desire.
    4. domokl April 8 2020 18: 22 New
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      laughing Well, such a tradition among Moscow mayors. One SU-155 was produced, the next two times a year it changes tiles and borders ... Rejoice. In our house, after 40-50 years of operation, we began to plaster and paint only when Putin arrived. My truth on age has not yet passed. Only 54 years old at home ... It still stands a couple of decades. No bars live I guess
  • Altona April 8 2020 14: 40 New
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    The situation with the coronavirus clearly showed that the authorities in our country: a) are incapable, b) the authorities are only interested in it and the citizens are only feed for it, c) the authorities in our country are engaged in self-PR, they provide humanitarian assistance to those to whom it need not; "wins" in the foreign policy field (so much so that the price of oil from a comfortable 62 flies away at $ 25 brent). It is clear that in this situation, none of us has a normal future, the country lives in a survival or squeeze regime. Foreign political “victories” are becoming ever greater every day - our elite from the beginning of the year has successfully “defeated” Lukashenko, Erdogan and the crown prince Ben-Salman. Another such "victory" and the country will be washed off the world map. In the economy, too, “victory” after “victory” is the result of the ruble to dollar exchange rate display.
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      Quote: Altona
      The situation with coronavirus clearly showed

      that you don’t know how to read, or are reading the State Department manual ... request look at EU or US countries for comparison ... repeat
      Quote: Altona
      provides humanitarian assistance to those who do not need it

      Seriously ? someone refused? you. by the way about whom, about Serbia?

      Quote: Altona
      It is clear that in this situation, none of us has a normal future, the country lives in a survival or squeeze regime

      for sure - maidanoid ... bully

      Quote: Altona
      Another such "victory" and the country will be washed off the world map.

      if about Ukraine, then that's for sure ...
      Quote: Altona
      result on the scoreboard of the ruble to dollar exchange rate.

      75,5 is not a reason to panic ... hi
      1. evgen1221 April 9 2020 09: 46 New
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        But essentially there is something to answer in addition to dimagogy points?
  • bk316 April 8 2020 14: 41 New
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    Alexander, you have raised an interesting problem, the problem of management.
    But the root of the problem is not in the field of management but in the field of information.
    Let's not write about the government, neither you nor I know who they are actually listening to.
    Take VO. It’s not obvious to you that instead of specialists in military equipment or senior employees of the military-industrial complex, and just specialists came people who simply express their dissatisfaction with the authorities or the United States or the Jews, well, at best describe their political or historical views, people are neither politicians nor historians.
    List NIKi? Yes, they are in any topic on the first page. Look Stakhanovite offended (he admitted) - a fuss. Perhaps I can already write a bot that no one will distinguish it from a squabble.
    Such came to VO and all where now is the MILITARY review? And the administration in the mustache is not blowing. Well, there are still a dozen enthusiasts who are interesting to read. But the rest come not to read, but to write.
    Do you understand? Exactly how you write, they don’t listen - they say they are not even interested in listening to anyone. THEY JUST SPEAK.
    Well, if those are at VO, why shouldn't they be at the academy on television in the government?
    So everywhere dull and merciless information noise is pouring out, drowning out a useful signal.

    What is the way out of this?
    Well, I see two.
    We ourselves will learn how to filter this stream and begin to ignore messages that do not contain information.
    The authorities will do this for us in the broadest sense (from GDP to the direct employer).
    For me, both are good.
    1. Altona April 8 2020 14: 54 New
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      It’s not obvious to you that instead of specialists in military equipment or senior employees of the military-industrial complex, people just came for specialists

      -------------------------
      Well, apparently, experts are also sitting in our military-industrial complex, even names can be listed - Dmitry Rogozin (journalist), Serdyukov (furniture dealer). In the fuel and energy complex-Igor Ivanovich Sechin (translator and philologist). We go further, not further than recently there is news about the modernized Tu-160. And what do we see? Gets the Soviet backlog and customizes. But what about the new one from scratch? Ooooh, technology is lost. And so in everything, up to the "hypersound", where the Soviet still gets the "Stiletto" of 1985 to launch these gliders. And people like you come and start "yes, all nishtyak, there are those offended, they interfere, you understand."
      PS Let's discuss the technique, only a new one, and not customizing the old one.
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        Does such a technique exist in nature? By what criteria do you determine that a technique is new? In ancient times, ships were invented, tanks, planes in the early 20th century, small arms even earlier. Why the Russian Federation should not use the Soviet reserve ??? Nothing in this world is created from scratch.
        1. Altona April 8 2020 15: 41 New
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          Quote: gvozdan
          Nothing in this world is created from scratch.

          ----------------------
          We no longer build aircraft from scratch, which are called the “strategic bomber,” that is, we import material and make completely new ones. This is about this. We take the physically old glider and upgrade. In this world, much is created from scratch in terms of production and manufacturing, including your shoes. You’re not repairing the old ones all the time.
          Ps By the way, what is produced from scratch is also small. Small boats go on for years, the same "calibers" must be released for a year for one salvo of two frigates.
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            About the number of "Caliber". Information from the bowels of the Ministry of Defense? From a trusted source?
            No, from the Internet. From the same fighters with cutting.
            This is what they write to you about.
            But you certainly will not hear.
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        Let's discuss a technique, only a new one,

        Armata, Kurganets or Su-57? Tell them few? ONLY - everything is according to the training manual of the State Department ... hi
        you burned with zeal ... request
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          Armata, Kurganets or Su-57? Tell them few? ONLY - everything is according to the training manual of the State Department ...

          ----------------------------------------
          Yes, yes ... They are already being mass-produced here, and a certain Borisov, deputy prime minister, by the way, recently said that all this is excessive for the budget, T-72B3 and Su-27 in different versions will suffice. Don’t feed people like you, just let me nullify something. And then run to Trump, "Trump, help, protect from Saudi oil, get rid of sanctions, take it under the wing." So, write on the methodology of "evening M", write on. And by the way, you can be proud further that our average warship has a tonnage of 5000 tons, and the oligarch’s yacht is 12000. Where do you get these? It’s already funny ... Armata, Kurgan ... laughing laughing
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          2. Vadim237 April 9 2020 15: 28 New
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            Borisov said a lot of things - the mass production of the Su 57 launched the installation batch of T 14, too, but the tests continue. And you do not make yourself the tago of the evening M in a cube, otherwise it is very similar.
            1. Mestny April 9 2020 17: 05 New
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              So he is one of those about whom you write. He comes here to shout against the authorities.
              Brains apparently do not have enough to understand that if this power collapses, it will most likely be crushed as well.
              Or maybe he’s trying for the money, whoever is there, the Opposition officer will take apart.
              Yes, and to understand the grades it is known that a decent person does not need.
      3. bk316 April 8 2020 18: 38 New
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        Let's discuss a technique, only a new one, not customizing the old one.

        Double offer KasperskyOS.
        Or are you more interested in Rogozin? am
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        Well, what will Eugene discuss? laughing
    2. Svarog April 8 2020 15: 12 New
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      Take VO. It’s not obvious to you that instead of specialists in military equipment or senior employees of the military-industrial complex, and just specialists came people who simply express their dissatisfaction with the authorities

      It would be strange if, in an article about power, a commentator would talk about the military-industrial complex ..
      Well, at best, they describe their political or historical views, people are neither politicians nor historians.

      And who are you, a historian, a politician? This is too narrow a platform for specialists .. The opinion of the population of the country, an ordinary layman, is expressed differently here ..
      Quote: bk316
      Look Stakhanovite offended (he admitted) - a fuss.

      What have I confessed to you? laughing Pass by my comments if they hurt you .. But for me it is strange .. winked
      Well, there are still a dozen enthusiasts who are interesting to read

      So read this ten .. but for some reason Svarog is interesting to you .. masochism? in general, if there are a dozen commentators on VO, then VO will not be popular ..
      Do you understand? Exactly how you write, they don’t listen - they say they are not even interested in listening to anyone. THEY JUST SPEAK.

      Of course it’s interesting, for me personally, the comments themselves are often more interesting than the articles .. and a lot of sensible commentators on VO ..
      So everywhere dull and merciless information noise is pouring out, drowning out a useful signal.

      So voice these useful signals .. instead of blaming .. They just don’t want to hear and annoy you .. but don’t want to hear, because the signals that you send are not perceived by the majority .. people open their eyes .. and then more..
      What is the way out of this?
      Well, I see two.
      We ourselves will learn how to filter this stream and begin to ignore messages that do not contain information.

      So start with yourself .. otherwise you mention me through a comment .. just ignore .. but you don’t like that they started to ignore you and this is the problem ..
      The authorities will do this for us in the broadest sense (from GDP to the direct employer).

      The capitalist dictatorship is slavery .. Do you long for this?
      1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 16: 16 New
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        Any dictatorship is slavery. Communist is no exception.
        1. Svarog April 8 2020 16: 18 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Any dictatorship is slavery. Communist is no exception.

          Did you feel like a slave in the USSR? Me not. Because the dictatorship of the proletariat was.
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            More precisely, the dictatorship of the CPSU. Professional party officials had nothing to do with the proletariat. But it is worth recognizing that now I feel much freer - there are no masses of awkward prohibitions.
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              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              But it is worth recognizing that now I feel much freer - there are no masses of awkward prohibitions.

              1) seriously? and what is forbidden to you now - do not share? hi
              2) But I was annoyed in the USSR by the need to consist of the Komsomol, the CPSU, the trade union, to sit there at meetings and political education, to write newspapers according to the order of the newspaper, to receive recommendations and specifications, a ban on reading what is interesting or going abroad at will, etc.,
              1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 17: 48 New
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                I write that NOW I am much freer. And on the second point, I completely agree with you. And add the third point:
                I could not have more than 1 apartment in the USSR, even if the second is for children.
                I could not have 2 or more cars in the family. Although my wife works outside the city, my business is in another area. Although what am I talking about: I couldn’t have my own business, for this article shone.
                I could not build a capital house on my summer cottage - only a summer one, and no more than a certain size, despite the number of children.
                I was bothered by the plus to what you said that they practically dictated to me what music to listen to, what films to watch and what clothes to wear. What a dog deal!
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                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  I write that NOW I am much freer.

                  Sorry - I didn’t read it correctly and understood .... repeat
                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  I could not have more in the USSR

                  this is true and can be repeated indefinitely .... request
                  could not buy an apartment in the South for recreation ...
                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  What a dog deal!

                  I agree, but this is commonplace - it was necessary to control everything so that people could not find out and compare - how stupidly SV manages resources and robs Russia ... hi
          2. ser56 April 8 2020 17: 28 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            because the dictatorship of the proletariat was.

            since 1977 - a nation-wide state - study ... request
            1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 17: 49 New
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              Quotation marks forgot to put on the word "nationwide"
              This common people sat on the Old Square in Moscow.
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                This common people sat on the Old Square in Moscow.

                no need to simplify - a feudal system was created - with feudal lords (district, region, republic), its type of clergy - ideologists of the CPSU, its inquisition and finally the emperor - uniting political and spiritual power ... request
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                  Forgot to mention religion. Supreme deity, saints of all stripes, mantras, praise, temples, icons. Rites and dogmas.
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                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    Forgot to mention religion

                    and now you are not careful request
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                    their type ministers of kul
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                      Ministers are ministers, and religion was built orderly. Even the analogue of the kingdom of God is not forgotten. When everyone needs it.
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                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        and religion was built harmonious.

                        it was not in vain that the IVS studied at the seminary - so the pro worked ... request
      2. bk316 April 8 2020 18: 48 New
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        It would be strange if, in an article about power, a commentator would talk about the military-industrial complex ..

        The article is not about power. About management and information. And for you, everything about power ....
        It would be strange if, in an article about power, a commentator would talk about the military-industrial complex ..

        A article about launching a rocket must remember Rogozin? Are you a rocket engineer?
        And in the forecasts for coronavirus about the collapse of medicine? You are a doctor?
        And in the article on scientific achievements is necessarily about the exam? Are you a teacher?

        that they began to ignore you and this is the problem ..

        Not at all. I don't like the drop in discussion level. to the level of ehamatsi.
        For example, ALL that I wrote about coronavirus is justified and confirmed by scientific facts. I am rather scrupulous about this topic. And I was thanked for that. BUT a lot of people just did not find it difficult to read (although I set out at the high school level), because as I wrote it is interesting for them not to read but to write. I don’t care about that (I don’t let such people in my life), I’m worried that there are less and less interesting articles and comments on VO.
        So read this ten ..

        So I read, but there are fewer and fewer such people ... because of you.
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          A article about launching a rocket must remember Rogozin? Are you a rocket engineer?

          So Rogozin is not a rocket engineer .. and not even a manager .. HE is a journalist who screwed up and is clearly not in his place ..
          And in the forecasts for coronavirus about the collapse of medicine? You are a doctor?

          I use the "services" of doctors and I am not happy with the quality and price of these services .. so why should I be silent?
          And in the article on scientific achievements is necessarily about the exam? Are you a teacher?

          I have children .. and all that you list are urgent problems that voicing is the duty of a citizen .. and singing psalms is to you in church ..
          So I read, but there are fewer and fewer such people ... because of you.

          So the culprit appointed laughing This is why because of me or because of us .. I express my point of view and, as a rule, about life inside the country .. it excites me and does not affect the alternative point of view, well, if only by comment .. You are very strange ..
          The fact that VO is a unique resource, here I agree with you completely, but the resource must be developed and VO do it and do it right, articles on politics are about 30 percent of the total and they should be because politics affects all spheres of life, including MIC ..
    3. domokl April 8 2020 18: 36 New
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      Hello Vladimir. I agree in you in many ways. Indeed, the resource has changed quite a bit since its inception. It is in that aspect that you are talking about. Naturally, a popular resource attracts quite a few random people, not specialists, and even those who are little interested in military issues in the broad sense of the word.
      But ... You probably remember the series of articles on Lend-Lease, which was published in the past and the year before last, remember the materials on armored trains, aircraft, ships. Remember how many specialists gathered there and are gathering today. I remember how they carried me with their physiognomy in some articles for the slightest inaccuracy.
      For other colleagues, it is really important to express your point of view. For some, this is just a job. It seems to me that knowing the enemy is necessary in the same way as knowing your own positions. Everyone has the right to express their opinion on the issues raised in the articles. For this, the site rules exist. And there are moderators for fans to troll. Periodically clean up the resource
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        Naturally, a popular resource attracts quite a lot of random people,

        I understand, it's just a shame.
        Indeed, if not unique, then a very rare thing.
        Well, yes, I attend professional forums of virologist nuclear experts and, of course, programmers, but also fishing laughing
        And here in ONE place so many different and interesting people gathered, it's a shame when they leave.
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  • NordUral April 8 2020 14: 43 New
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    Would you like to say something, Alexander Staver? I understood only one thing that they still "charge" us and "horses" at the crossing do not change.
    About the system - nothing!
    1. domokl April 8 2020 18: 40 New
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      Not a medic. and not a teacher. I will not treat and teach. Not understood? Well, okay. The main thing is not to be nervous. I also don’t understand anything in some matters ... You will drink Valerianochka and everything goes away. Calm, only calm. Everything else is nonsense, a matter of everyday life.
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        I agree, the main process. Good luck
  • Caretaker April 8 2020 14: 50 New
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    The ambiguous statement of the author of the article.
    ... one is enough. But one who will know which coast him need to get over.

    Firstly, it is advisable for the “coachman” to ask the passengers where they need it, and not him.
    Secondly, if the "coachman" took the place of the ferryman, then do not wait for good. A team of specialists should work.
    1. domokl April 8 2020 18: 42 New
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      Quote: Caretaker
      The ambiguous statement of the author of the article.

      And the middle of the article seems to be read and not necessary?
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        Quote: domokl
        Quote: Caretaker
        The ambiguous statement of the author of the article.
        ... one is enough. But one who will know which coast him need to get over.

        Firstly, it is advisable for the “coachman” to ask the passengers where they need it, and not him.
        Secondly, if the "coachman" took the place of the ferryman, then do not wait for good. A team of specialists should work.

        And the middle of the article seems to be read and not necessary?
        Suggest quoting sections?

        The beginning, middle, and most of the "ending" is dedicated to what should not be done.
        The post in question comments on the author’s conclusion
        Constructive proposals in the article are not formulated.
  • Narak-zempo April 8 2020 14: 56 New
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    They don’t change Charon at the crossing, and there is no one to replace him.
  • Snail N9 April 8 2020 15: 04 New
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    Yes, the author is right, you only need to listen to “Kiselev-Soloviev TV” and work, work for a bowl of pottage and “don’t complain” and then we will heal ... yes, we will “heal” .... yes
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    Need to change the "operating system" of society

    I spoke about this back in 1991 ...
    1. tatra April 8 2020 15: 42 New
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      Well, that changed in 1991. And instead of the "reds," the "operating system" of society began to be defined as "whites." What will be the System, power, ideology in the country, determines not the whole nation, but only those who own the country. And it doesn’t matter which of the “whites” will be in place of Putin, all the same, there will remain the same quality power, the same system with a huge gap in the incomes of the people, the same vicious and cowardly ideology "and we have nothing to do with it, it's all communists, to blame "," everything was bad in the USSR. "
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        No, I offered this new OS Reset, and then Reboot and a return to the updated USSR.
        1. AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 16: 15 New
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          The USSR has already crashed into a blue screen or in kernel panic,
    2. ezdiumno ru April 8 2020 15: 45 New
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      Well, what kind then and now do you offer?
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      Alexey! Duck it was then that everything changed to this merde.
  • ser56 April 8 2020 15: 15 New
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    "One is enough." request for dictatorship? bully
  • gvozdan April 8 2020 15: 26 New
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    An adult is responsible for his life and his family. And infantile kids always blame someone for all their troubles.
    1. NordUral April 8 2020 19: 00 New
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      Are you talking about "our" power, Viktor Yurievich? These are always the West, but the wrong people are to blame, and now viruses also hinder them (or maybe they help, but what kind of question is that?).
  • ser56 April 8 2020 15: 29 New
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    "Today, part of the world's population does not believe in the forecasts of experts more than the predictions of various seers, oracles, shamans, psychics and other people from this world."
    but the author believes polls! bully
    usually everyone knows and offers simple solutions to solve complex problems (such as managing the country), people who have not really done anything in life, have not achieved it - therefore everything seems simple and obvious to them ... request
    alas, but let them go to power - everyone will fall apart, and then they will be justified by the fact that they wanted the best - examples in the history of our country are dark - from the Bolsheviks to Gabriel Popov or Zelensky request
  • gvozdan April 8 2020 15: 36 New
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    Enough already whining and authors and readers.
  • ezdiumno ru April 8 2020 15: 43 New
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    The prologue is certainly correct. And it is written beautifully. Only about anything. Mass media, especially those controlled by the state, conduct informational work quite clearly.
    And the government does not shy away.
    It has a clear line for self-isolation of the population, development of a vaccine, subsidizing of business, organization of medical assistance, etc. Where the author saw the floundering is not clear.
    Well, experts ... They have disputes in an incomprehensible situation a natural thing. And it is all over the world, and not just in Russia.
    It is in disputes that truth is born, as you know.
    So here. The author made a beautiful, detailed preamble. So you wait at the end of the same beautiful and concrete conclusion-proposal.
    But his ... no. The author was blown away?
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      Quote: ezdiumno ru
      But his ... no. The author was blown away?

      No, really. I brought bread, I laid it on the table, chewed it and put it in your mouth. Then yourself ... Again, "my hut from the edge", "this is not what I suggested"?
  • Qwertyarion April 8 2020 15: 48 New
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    . Moreover, any forecast is perceived exactly the opposite. They started talking about stabilization of the economy - wait for some trick in this very economy.

    So we have already adapted to listen “between the lines”, to determine when there is a hidden public opinion poll, when bad things “start to sing songs about stability”.
    You can recall the information flow a year before raising the retirement age. There, officials sang through one thing: some that did not raise the retirement age, others that needed to be raised.
  • rich April 8 2020 16: 22 New
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    I seem to have found the answer. It's all about horses! Too fond of harnessing these poor animals to the cart. And from different sides ..

    Unsuccessful author's allegory.
    Harnessing a horse in a cart is possible only on one side - where are the shafts yes
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      Quote: Rich
      Unsuccessful author's allegory.

      Your cart is not modernized .. On our shafts stick out in all directions. Depending on where the coachman sits
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        On our shafts stick out in all directions. Depending on where the coachman sits

        I understood this, for which I put article +. I liked her. And about the shafts, as a rural man specified. By the way, Alexander, coachmen do not ride carts - they consider their dignity below their dignity - their destiny is carriages, but spans wink
        1. Mestny April 9 2020 17: 19 New
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          Red cart? Yes, it is just that - the shafts are rearranged on the go. As the coachman has changed, so he puts shafts. The boards are already rotten, the wheels are hanging out - and they are busy - back and forth they shuffle the shafts. People are pulling it here and there. he doesn’t care where, people, they would give.
          And above all this, the slogan is "Forward to a brighter future."
  • Maks1995 April 8 2020 16: 28 New
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    Some common words.
    If you got into cards with swindlers, the result is clear.
    1) You can recall how there were 120% of the votes in the election, and how, without hiding with impunity, the packets were thrown into the ballot box ..... you can at least manage to vote ...
    2) And remember the popular independent presidential candidates - the doctor and the general .... recall what they ended up with?

    "One is enough. But the one who knows which coast he needs to cross over to. And all the rest just stop wagging his tongue to tell everyone how you personally were in favor if you won or against if you failed. And on your age of carts and bridges is enough. "

    Is it Putin's life-long presidency ?, and the rest in an eternal ban?
    IMHO, as they did not try, but no one without revolutions succeeded ...
    1. Vadim237 April 8 2020 17: 15 New
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      Indecisive and poor losers a priori cannot make any revolutions - now even the strong and courageous hell that the authorities will make all such attempts will stop in the bud.
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      Well, try it. What is the problem? Is there no suitable leader?
      Communists without a leader - that donkey without carrots.
  • Brigadier April 8 2020 17: 31 New
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    "And do not have ten coachmen on one cart. One is enough. But the one who will know which coast he needs to cross."

    And if the coachman no longer knows the road along which he should drive a cart with a horse, but does not want to leave his coachman’s position, motivating that he has been put to this position by “obscenity”, which means that he will be on it to the very end ... What to do then ?

    Although his previous coachman, when he realized that he was not coping, he found the strength to honestly declare this and leave his coachman's place ...
  • Anatoly Sivenkov April 8 2020 17: 36 New
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    The state’s power structure is at the level of two thousand years ago and is not intended for reform or restructuring. If you compare with the plant, where the President is the director of the plant, then there is no plant management in it, except for the accounting and production department, which is the Government. The director himself is one for all, having at least seven spans in his forehead under the current power structure, the President will not be able to do anything good for the country and people, just like the director of a factory without a plant management. If the power in the factories were organized in the image of the current “democracy”, then not a single plane would fly, not a single machine would budge, not a single gun could shoot
    Now the President can only listen and implement the advice of internal and external "well-wishers" - lobbyists who, hiding behind the good of the people, pursue their own selfish goals. "Well-wishers" advised to introduce democracy, and the President introduced the power of lobbyists, puppeteers and fraudsters as a result, the country fell apart not in the interests of the people, but in the interests of "well-wishers". "Well-wishers" advised President Yeltsin to replace the form of ownership in the interests of the people, but the economy collapsed in the interests of "well-wishers."
  • PavelM April 8 2020 17: 48 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    And who will take the place of "leave"? Do not cry?

    Alas, all are mortal. And Putin too. That is why it is better for the country that, while still alive and has not yet lost its “rating,” he would leave and recommend his successor, whom he trusts (for today, I see Shoigu as the successor).
    The people will support (would support).
    Then, remaining a living conscience of the nation, the transfer of power would have passed, gently.
    Otherwise, while Putin is in place, an alternative will not appear. Then, after Putin (alas), a new debate will begin, and, I think, the last collapse of the country.

    However, the point is not even in Putin’s lifelong rule, but in his virtually permanent environment, and this is definitely a disaster!
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      Shoigu from his immediate circle, a friend can be said, therefore, he will continue the work of the great helmsman.
  • samarin1969 April 8 2020 21: 02 New
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    The authoritative author raised two problems:
    1) People cease to "believe."
    And this is reckoning for the demonstrative work of “image makers”, “PR managers”, PR agencies, teams of political scientists and other masters of half-truth. If to tell the truth, then why are these people needed at all?! ... So we have to include, after Marx, “Subject everything to doubt”.

    2) We are not united! ... This is a question for the "coachmen"! Shared power. First, along Montesquieu, then into “thirty-nine” units, 85 subjects and dozens of “political forces. Why? One leader and his deputies would be enough. Then we will march like the Red Army in the horror stories of the West. soldier laughing
    These are all questions to the Kremlin, not ordinary people.
  • turbris April 8 2020 21: 05 New
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    All this is called the "power vertical", which is now working and for which you have criticized Putin so mercilessly. He in extreme circumstances competently governs the country and the "power vertical" helps him in this, the results of this work are determined by the number of deaths from coronavirus. And what would happen if there were liberals in power - look at the deaths in the "developed" countries of the West.
  • Ajevgenij April 8 2020 21: 15 New
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    No wonder today's world is called the world of post-truth, where there are no starting points at all. Any assertion is immediately validated, a total filling with all and all fakes. Welcome-)))
  • awdrgy April 8 2020 22: 06 New
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    And we are simple people, we won’t go anywhere to vote (and this is not a responsibility to take off) Anyway, whoever goes to power wants to fill his pocket and earn money for us. A good boss, who does not want to be a boss, but such people don’t go to power
  • Red Alert April 8 2020 22: 09 New
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    So for a long time everything was offered - OS of the USSR 2.1, corrected and supplemented .. 2.1 - this is so that the version is odd, otherwise it's a bad omen .. wink

    Does a person who believes in signs speak of the reconstruction of the USSR? All this is sad
  • Red Alert April 8 2020 22: 11 New
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    Quote: turbris
    All this is called the "power vertical", which is now working and for which you have criticized Putin so mercilessly. He in extreme circumstances competently governs the country and the "power vertical" helps him in this, the results of this work are determined by the number of deaths from coronavirus. And what would happen if there were liberals in power - look at the deaths in the "developed" countries of the West.

    But if true communists ruled, we would have heard about the virus only by rumors.
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      And what are real communists? After the CPSU, such things cannot be in nature, or are you alluding to this miserable semblance of the opposition led by Zyuganov?
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        Return to our reality. Do you seriously think that after the capture of the USSR by the enemies of the Communists, the Communists and their supporters suddenly disappeared somewhere? And in order to have ideological convictions, it is not necessary to be a member of any party. And Putin will never allow any politician, and no party of true patriots of Russia. As soon as before the last “Putin election”, he saw the rapidly growing popularity of Grudinin among the people, he immediately set his propagandists on him in the media, on TV, on the Web.
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    Almost every post in any city in Russia posted courses announcements,

    And now the site for writing dissertations is declared socially significant.
  • KSVK April 8 2020 23: 12 New
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    Quote: turbris
    All this is called the "power vertical", which is now working.

    Of course it works. The best management system is bureaucratic. Nobody argues. The problem is that the crisis with which the "vertical" is struggling so successfully becomes permanent. And it was precisely for legitimization that they “believed”. Putin is a wonderful crisis manager. Unfortunately, as soon as the situation normalizes, the manager’s efficiency drops sharply. This is just my, quite possibly erroneous judgment, which, however, I am ready to argue.
    Well, on the topic of the article, I can assume that replacing the "OS" will not lead to anything good. This is a historical experience. On the other hand, changes are REQUIRED. One can only hope for the prudence of the parties. And the fact that these changes will not cost blood. Too few inhabitants of this country are left. There is a chance to completely disappear. As a people and as a nation. Unfortunately, so far prudence is not observed.
  • GRIGORIY1957 April 8 2020 23: 38 New
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    Quote: Svarog
    But the Kremlin is not working .. especially in the part -Made-answer ..
    Yes, actually they do not criticize themselves, they only sing odes ..
    Reply


    Kremlin HEAD - PUTIN ...
    The words of I.V. Stalin refer to the vertical of power.
    It is in this dissonance ...
    The deputy-official layer of the ode adds about itself! There is little responsibility for them!
    They don’t cut their heads and do not put them in prison ...
    ... But in vain ... ☝️☝️☝️
  • GRIGORIY1957 April 8 2020 23: 58 New
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    Quote: romey
    There is no more spectacle than hysterical kremlebot.


    If in 2 years, such speakers "gain 15 votes, not the gray epaulettes of the fascist ...
    The forum was completely changed and there’s nothing to do here ... ☝️☝️☝️
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    A country without beliefs does not exist.


    ... UKRAINE ... ☝️☝️☝️
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    During the reboot (or is it still “perestroika”?) The power can be turned off, and then cuckoo - the whole bird’s abyss ...
  • Sarkazm April 9 2020 00: 56 New
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    Quote: romey
    You are somehow too bloodthirsty. Do not scare liberal Putinists. Frightened, they will generally become inadequate. It’s enough to tighten the article in the modern Criminal Code and really put on it the problem with liberals of all stripes from security forces to sislibs will resolve itself: some will sit down, others will run away. But for this you yourself need the prerequisites ...
    You can imagine a situation in which Tereshkova will go to the rostrum of the current State Duma ... you, will offer you what is written, and the State Duma ... and instantly adopt the law? ...

    Mentioning the "operating system", the author apparently still had in mind the system, and the system is not individual characters for whom the prison really cries. Plant some characters, the system will give birth to new ones, and it will itself be handed over to live, or rather, to plant characters that are not pleasing to her and do not fit perfectly into the rules of the system.
    Characters on the bunks - hardly anyone will argue with this except the Kremlin boat or tightly zombied, but for real changes you need to change the system in the country and moreover, radically. We did not build Western-style capitalism, that it turned out to be a non-viable freak, we still have a large share of large state-owned companies, and all experiments with transferring them to private hands ended only with the state having to buy them back and inject investments, or cover debts on failures as a result of the activities of "effective managers" from yesterday's security officers, neighbors in a country cooperative, etc. So since now the share of state-owned enterprises is so high, it will not be difficult for us to nationalize and privatized to return to the rails of a planned economy, and still follow the path of socialism with a share of a market economy, while preserving private initiative in a number of areas, while maintaining the number of medium and small private businesses that arose since the collapse of the USSR and developed due to the initiative, intelligence and abilities of the owners. Attract the same foreign investment, but on transparent terms and with a guarantee of protection of their rights, property, including intellectual property.
    We urgently need to solve problems in the education system by returning the planning and distribution of personnel, and this is not only the practice of the USSR, but also of the leading industrialized countries. Education, including higher education, should be free, training should be carried out only by state universities and according to a single standard, to revive and increase the number of secondary specialized educational institutions. Investing in personnel will bring more to the country and economy. To close all private shops, riveting diplomas and unnecessary pseudo-specialists of under-education and unnecessary quantities to anyone, their existence is just a matter of arrogance and stupidity of many of us going to anything just so that the child has some kind of diploma, though we don’t see what is happening next of this, our children, and our country as a whole, have no future.
    We urgently need to solve the problem of medical care for the population by modernizing and re-introducing the Soviet system of free medical care for the population.
    Roll back and return to a normal pension system.
    It is very important to abandon national borders within the country, the administrative division should take into account the preservation of culture and the preservation of national diversity, but first of all it should serve the economic interests and production chains. Ensure a single law, its supremacy and enforcement.
    Refuse to attach the national currency, ruble, to the dollar.
    We have raw materials, we need to maximize the% of its processing within the country.
    The most important resources in this century will be food and water, we must ensure our food independence and introduce effective technologies in agriculture, ensuring not only lower costs and costs of production, but also increase food exports.
    Develop regions beyond the Urals, solve the problem of internal migration and outflow of population from the eastern regions of the country. In the case of the rule of law, the inevitability of punishment, and incorruptible courts, we will have a lot of working hands ... we will find the pick and scrap, send everyone to build infrastructure in the interests of developing the eastern regions, creating comfortable conditions for the population in general, and not just attracting them.

    This current story with the coronovirus has revealed many problems, questioned the dominance, I am moral, of the States, so to speak, their right to the ultimate truth. We have a chance to come to a strong country and a high standard of living of the population, if at a critical moment we don’t take up homework like the current Communists or characters like Navalny, and all the more if we don’t buy another tale about a white bull from liberals or a thief posing as a statesman Imperials, etc. on their background.
    1. EvilLion April 9 2020 08: 21 New