It's time to change the operating system of the country

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It's time to change the operating system of the country

Something strange is happening in the world. Humanity ceases to believe. The pandemic has become a litmus test, which shows precisely this attitude of the majority towards specialists, towards analysts, towards governments. Ordinary people, repeatedly deceived and "used", began to be skeptical of everything that is said, written or inspired by the TV.

Today, part of the world's population does not believe in the forecasts of experts more than the predictions of various seers, oracles, shamans, psychics and other people from this world. Moreover, any forecast is perceived exactly the opposite. They started talking about stabilization of the economy - wait for some trick in this very economy. They started talking about some kind of negotiations between the military - wait for increased fire and new victims.



Many specialists have appeared in some field - wait for trouble


Remember the wild capitalism of the 90s? When literally every day companies appeared and disappeared, when could money be lost or earned literally on the same day? “MMM”, “Chara”, numerous funds and more ... But I will remind you of another sign of that time.

Almost on every post in any city in Russia there were announcements about courses, express training, about “schools”, where in two or three months you were offered to get a new and necessary specialty of an accountant or even an economist. How easy it was then! Paid the money, and that’s it, you're a graduate! Moreover, such "specialists" were happy to hire the "new Russians."

And it was completely unimportant that the company was quickly disappearing. Even the fact that law enforcement officers took accountants as the causal place. The only important thing was that the risk was well paid. How many destinies were broken then ...

Or another example. Soviet story. Remember the "millions of executed and repressed" by Stalin? Remember when the word “human rights activist” became abusive in our country? And the beautiful name “Memorial” was blamed so that even today few people use it. And the newly made candidates and doctors of science, even academicians, spoke about this!

They were echoed by writers, artists, directors, and journalists. Remember the movies of that period? All these "Penalties", "Bastards" and the like? Remember the many “facts from the KGB archives”? And they spoke so convincingly that people began to doubt even the history of their own family. And anyone who was convicted in that period automatically became “political,” a victim of Stalinist terror.

For those readers who were born in those days or later, it sounds wild today. How wildly the parents' memories of treating the country with a wave of their hands through TVs by Chumak or Kashpirovsky sound wild! When in almost every family, when these magicians spoke, there was a can of water in front of the screen and some creams and so on. And this, as is now clearly visible, is among fairly well-educated people.

Why we do not want to learn from our own mistakes


Years passed. Many of the "cured" Chumak and Kashpirovsky forgot themselves in those years. “Yes, it was. All my neighbors charged creams. Oh, and then I laughed at them! .. ”Those who enjoyed watching the talentedly filmed“ masterpieces of world cinema ”turned into ardent critics of these films. "Accountants" and "economists" work in completely different positions. Life has put everything in its place.

But take a look at what's happening today. Do not you think that we again blindly believe in what they say from TV screens, computer monitors, stands at rallies, on benches in parks and squares?

Any decision made by the government on the basis of the recommendations of doctors of sciences, academics and other specialists, after many consultations and meetings, will be necessarily criticized by other doctors of science, academics and specialists. With the same sonorous titles, awards, authority.

And it turns out some kind of nonsense. A group of specialists versus a group of specialists. And all this on the head of a simple layman. Okay, the older generation, beaten by life, having a certain experience, having its own opinion and hard enough to change their own views. And how to be young? For those for whom these scientists and specialists are truly credible?

Those who are in opposition today or, conversely, support the government, rely on authoritative opinion in their disputes. Scientists have become modern "Chumaks." Their idea, which is being discussed in a narrow circle of like-minded people, is becoming a dogma. At least for a part of society.

By the way, officials, no matter how paradoxical this may sound, support society in such a “spoiled" state. How many times have we heard from fairly high-ranking officials and authoritative politicians about the liberal economic bloc in the government? A sort of complaint about life from people who are followed by tens and hundreds of thousands. We would do it, but they are bothering us ... Some of our politicians have been "bothering" for almost three decades.

Need to change the "operating system" of society


The fact that a universal talking room is harmful is at least clear to me. There is an old saying that answers the question of democracy and authoritarianism in government. Horses do not change at the crossing! Otherwise, it is simply impossible. You can’t pull the cart on one bridge, then one or the other. In this case, the bridge will be infinite.

We must stop listening to everyone at once. Yes, it is necessary to listen to the proposals of all. Yes, if in any sentence there is at least a piece of common sense, you need to discuss it. But after discussion it is necessary to make a decision. And bear collective responsibility for this.

We are well settled. “We” are the majority of Russians. How many times have I heard from people who were outraged by any decision of the government or the president: they say that I don’t go to the polls, nothing will change anyway! The popular version of the bureaucratic “is hindered by liberals (communists, anarchists, astronauts, Papuans and all around). I did not vote for him, which means that I don’t need to ask me.

One smart person recently gave me an interesting thought for thought. Simple and quite voluminous. “Tell me why, as soon as many economists appear in the country, is there an economic crisis?” Really, why?

I seem to have found the answer. It's all about horses! Too fond of harnessing these poor animals to the cart. And from different sides. It looks, of course, grandiose. A lot of people, a lot of horses, everyone is busy with work. Yes, not just busy. They work enthusiastically, with a twinkle. And for some reason the cart stands still. And if you get to any coast, then this day is a national holiday.

But all you need to do is start a business after a decision is made. And do not have ten coachmen on one cart. One is enough. But the one who will know which coast he needs to cross. And for everyone else, just stop wagging your tongue to tell everyone how you personally were “in favor” in the event of victory or “against” in the event of failure. And for your age, "carts" and "bridges" are enough.
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  1. +45
    April 8 2020 14: 13
    "If you criticize - offer, offer - do, done - answer" - one of Stalin's sayings.
    1. +59
      April 8 2020 14: 17
      Good formula. But the Kremlin is not working .. especially in the part -Made-answer ..
      Yes, actually they do not criticize themselves, they only sing odes ..
      1. +62
        April 8 2020 14: 23
        Quote: Svarog
        Good formula. But the Kremlin is not working.

        Complete absence of a personal responsibility system. At the top and in the middle of the pyramid of power exactly. If I, during my work for my uncle, fed my bosses with only promises, and then shrugged my hands, "well, I didn’t, I didn’t, I was mistaken, with whom it doesn’t happen, I’m not to blame, it would have turned out that way, and in general these are evil intrigues from a competitor's firm ", then I would fly out of work in a month. But they can ... For decades ...
        1. +27
          April 8 2020 14: 38
          It's time change operating system governing the country

          Without a change of carriers (a tsar with a camarilla) it will not work.
          1. +6
            April 8 2020 18: 48
            Quote: Stas157
            It's time change operating system governing the country

            Without a change of carriers (a tsar with a camarilla) it will not work.

            And to whom to change? They do not allow options.
            1. +11
              April 9 2020 07: 39
              Absolutely not admit, who?, Or again pennies of children are imprisoned, and that the complete collapse and fragmentation of the country. Only all the quiet horror is that the country is like a whole, but inside everything is divided, cut into allotments, and that the cannibals' children will be "good", I doubt, effective Fuhrer, yes, but people will not. Complete feudal fragmentation with the appearance of the country's integrity. Something like this..
          2. +10
            April 8 2020 18: 52
            Quote: Stas157
            No media change

            Therefore, in the next election it is necessary to vote for the Communists. Only Soviet power is capable of changing the situation in the country.
            1. +10
              April 8 2020 21: 45
              I agree, of all the participating candidates, the Communists voiced the most intelligible thoughts.
              Well, not for the same vote - Zhirinovsky, Yavlinsky or Sobchak.
              1. +9
                April 8 2020 22: 47
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Sobchak.

                It’s not worth voting for dogs. She is already called a candidate against everyone.
              2. 0
                April 9 2020 20: 32
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                distinct
                ??
                By nominating a candidate - who proposed the program strictly the opposite Communist Party program ????
            2. +26
              April 9 2020 05: 07
              Quote: Gene84
              Therefore, in the next election it is necessary to vote for the Communists.

              That’s for sure, it remains to understand who in the modern Communist Party is a communist laughing
            3. +17
              April 9 2020 08: 38
              Are they Communists? Or werewolves?
            4. +6
              April 9 2020 09: 00
              Fig, behold! And who did you vote for before? However, I always vote for them, but this does not affect anything. They will also perform after the victory as Zyuganov in 96, merge, give everything to the new Yeltsin and choose a comfortable opposition role for themselves. So I always vote for them. This is either just an outlet, or "against everyone", or an irrational choice)))
            5. 0
              April 11 2020 14: 43
              Who to vote for? Communists are different. Stalin, Khrushchev? Brezhnev, Gorbachev?
              Do you have Stalin to vote for? Not even Brezhnev, only Gorbachev
              1. 0
                April 11 2020 16: 20
                Worse. Some Zyuganovs
          3. 0
            April 10 2020 07: 05
            And what bytes are written to these media is not important anymore? Or do you need to change the bytes too? Bytes can be different, some cream for TV with chumak carriers, and others create rockets for flying into space.
          4. +2
            April 13 2020 05: 06
            this is the biggest mistake. treatment should begin with the masses, and then the director will change by itself
        2. +18
          April 8 2020 15: 48
          I agree. I worked at one time in a state office ... If I tried not to execute the document (instructions, etc.) on time, I would have been mercilessly raped. And this is correct, because just let the subordinates think about the possibility of ignoring the instructions of the leadership, the collapse will begin. Therefore, they were always beaten for violating the performance discipline ... But this is at the lower level ... And at the top one is already tired of reading how many instructions of the President (etc.) have not been fulfilled ... And they will not be executed if responsibility for this does not come. There is another side to the coin: instructions and instructions must be FULFILLABLE within the specified time frame. But this is somewhat different. Although, by and large, everything is the same - an irresponsible official, without difficulty, gave the leadership a "linden", and that "linden" went through the chain of command to the very top and was born as a result of this "linden" instruction, which is impossible to execute, since the instruction is based on " linden ", but is weakly connected with reality
          1. +5
            April 8 2020 17: 14
            And what is right? You just took it under the hood and were afraid to prove what you need to do differently. It's not about subordinates. The point is you.
            1. +1
              April 10 2020 16: 07
              bandabas but what should I do, having received the direction of the leadership? Take a peak and execute or enter into a discussion and sabotage? And where did you get the idea that I was afraid to prove the impossibility of fulfilling this or that instruction? Have you come up with? There were cases, which proved (it is argued that it was done, why there is no result, what needs to be done in order to get it, deadlines, etc.) made proposals .... All this was.
              1. 0
                April 11 2020 06: 06
                Sabotage has nothing to do with it. And, it's not about subordinates. The point is how to properly organize the work. You can roll square by decree, but you can do everything easier and more efficient. Therefore, my subordinates never beat me. No sooner said than done. Without whining and procrastination.
          2. +3
            April 8 2020 17: 52
            This went back to the second half of the 50s, when the quantity mercilessly trampled quality. They drove the plan everywhere.
        3. -3
          April 9 2020 12: 19
          This is a feature of democratic forms of government. It is especially pronounced in the USA.
      2. AUL
        +24
        April 8 2020 14: 31
        An article written to insert one worn-out thesis
        There is an old saying that answers the question of democracy and authoritarianism in government. Horses do not change at the crossing! Otherwise, it’s simply impossible .... And do not have ten coachmen on one cart. One is enough.
        1. -29
          April 8 2020 14: 43
          Well, your comment was written in order to ensure that on the planet Nibiru, the quadcruders did not defeat long-diggers. or if in a different tone, look for what is not.
        2. +22
          April 8 2020 14: 49
          So we have one coachman. Nobody changed him.
          And there are many critics, because there are no positive results.
          1. +23
            April 8 2020 18: 52
            Quote: Mole
            There are many critics because there are no positive results.

            it would be surprising if it was the other way around
            1. Aag
              0
              April 9 2020 20: 07
              Quote: Mole
              There are many critics because there are no positive results.

              it would be surprising if it was the other way around
              Illogical. I think that if there were positive results, critics would be reduced.
          2. -5
            April 9 2020 15: 58
            It only seems to you that much. To gather in small piles on the Internet does not mean much.
            Elections show the opposite.
            1. +1
              April 9 2020 21: 13
              Quote: Mestny
              Elections show the opposite.

              You would shut your mouth with your “fair elections”, in which 146% of those participating. Your stuffing and administrative-command tricks have long been known to everyone.
              1. -1
                April 10 2020 09: 12
                You want to say that the majority of votes for the current government are stuffing and that other candidates are more popular among the people?
                1. 0
                  April 10 2020 09: 36
                  Quote: Voyager
                  You want to say that the majority of votes for the current government are stuffing and that other candidates are more popular among the people?

                  The system of elections and appointments (after them) operates in such a way that those who collect 46% of the vote (of which at least 10-15% of the stuffing) as a result have more than 75% of the seats in the State Duma ... Although according to mathematical calculations for one deputy (so that he got into parliament) in a fair and principled election should vote:
                  100%: 450 = 0, 22% of eligible voters, or 176 people (from 000).
                  Here is what I want to say ... In addition, a person who violates the election rules (refuses to debate) should be removed from them as not respecting the constitution, law and source of power.
                  1. 0
                    April 10 2020 10: 27
                    How did you calculate the number of real stuffing and how are they proved? This is a serious charge.
                    I've heard about cases when demonstrative stuffing was made out exclusively for media reports representing the liberal public.
              2. 0
                April 11 2020 19: 47
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Quote: Mestny
                Elections show the opposite.

                You would shut your mouth with your “fair elections”, in which 146% of those participating. Your stuffing and administrative-command tricks have long been known to everyone.

                Allow me to insert my "five kopecks" about the elections, one example: the elections of the head of Yekaterinburg in 2013, we will not get hung up on the personality of Roizman (who became the head of the city), but the result is indicative - the people CHOSE not a nominee from Edr, but another, although United Russia members poured so much "slop" and kompressat on Roizman that "Mama don't cry." There is another example: the election of the head of another Ural city of Pervouralsk in 2011, again, a nominee from Edr "flew like plywood", and the communist Pereverzev (at that time a communist) was elected, which cost the successful political career of another "celebrity" Brozovsky, who was entrusted win "Pervouralsk.
                So not everything is so bad, sometimes, people can say their word if they want.
        3. +1
          April 8 2020 15: 17
          Quote from AUL
          Horses do not change at the crossing!

          I remember the unforgettable film tail wags the dog ... hi
        4. +7
          April 8 2020 15: 33
          All right. One trouble, we don’t know where our coachman is taking us. Do not get lost. Or just tired and the cart is standing.
          1. +23
            April 8 2020 18: 53
            Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
            One trouble, we don’t know where our coachman is taking us

            there is only one way - capitalism, which is a dead end in development.
            1. +6
              April 8 2020 21: 50
              I agree that even Yeltsin turned the cart into capitalism and Putin didn’t turn the cart around, but he is also trying to pull it there, but the cart seems to have already fallen off its last wheel. The cart is all.
            2. -6
              April 9 2020 15: 59
              Quote: Gene84
              There is only one thing - capitalism, which is a dead end in development.

              One misfortune - capitalism exists, but socialism has died.
              How so?
              1. -4
                April 9 2020 16: 27
                The key question!
                Capitalism exists due to the threat of socialism. Worse for capitalism is anarchy.
                Our anarchy was averted in the late 90s.
          2. +2
            April 9 2020 07: 47
            Soon he will be 70, ... but his income with the income of ordinary people, for some reason, doesn’t coincide. Maybe an accountant, there is some kind of wrong one, well, in the Kremlin ...? Maybe Nabiulina (just rearrange the letter, and, to a point, the Minister of Economics) is very effective? ... In general, I look at Trutnev, the Minister of Labor, Murashko for medicine, who is clearly a comedian in their personnel department.
            1. Aag
              0
              April 9 2020 20: 13
              Trutnev is the Minister of Labor, Murashko for medicine, who is clearly a comedian in their personnel department.
              You forgot the former Minister of Sports. smile
      3. -36
        April 8 2020 14: 43
        Quote: Svarog
        But not working in the Kremlin

        You don’t nod to the Kremlin - first apply to yourself. About people like you saying. Clear? I criticized you - and immediately said that YOU do - apply to yourself. You - missed the bell, and there at least do not dawn
        1. +20
          April 8 2020 17: 13
          There is no more spectacle than hysterical kremlebot.
          1. -4
            April 9 2020 16: 01
            So you really are empty chimes.
            Your upper communists are just empty chimes. And your lower link is also stupid.
          2. 0
            April 9 2020 18: 30
            I support, inadequate and primitive, even rather boorish
      4. +4
        April 8 2020 14: 45
        But not working in the Kremlin

        Then I am addressing it to you, to all of you.
      5. +25
        April 8 2020 14: 51
        Quote: Svarog
        Good formula. But the Kremlin is not working .. especially in the part -Made-answer ..
        Yes, actually they do not criticize themselves, they only sing odes ..

        A modern joke on this subject:
        - Hello, the Kremlin? I would like to work in the government!
        - Are you crazy?
        - Is this a prerequisite?
        1. 0
          April 9 2020 16: 03
          This, in general, is a joke with a beard. I heard him back in the 80s.
      6. 0
        April 8 2020 15: 52
        You criticize - offer ..
        1. +2
          April 8 2020 19: 18
          There are many adequate criticisms. But only hddde effect?
          All competitors finished, there were "devils from the snuffbox". Do not understand Who will jump out!
          What about your suggestions?
          1. -7
            April 9 2020 16: 02
            Each of its shallow swamp climbs to criticize.
            This is especially true for us: the stupider and poorer - the better versed in the management of the country. Moreover, global advice gives the authorities.
      7. -7
        April 8 2020 17: 31
        Mr. Svarog, and you, you personally, whom you would like to see in the Kremlin. Tryndet not coolies tossing and turning - you personally.
        1. -22
          April 8 2020 17: 55
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Mr. Svarog, and you, you personally, whom you would like to see in the Kremlin. Tryndet not coolies tossing and turning - you personally.
          Trump -
          Svarog (Vladimir) January 20, 2020 15:42
          Trump is generally well done. Until now, I have not unleashed a war with anyone; I am fulfilling campaign promises.
          He not only wants to tie Trump's shoelaces himself, he wants everyone else in Russia to tie shoelaces to him.
          1. +20
            April 8 2020 20: 01
            Quote: Jura
            He not only wants to tie Trump's shoelaces himself, he wants everyone else in Russia to tie shoelaces to him.

            Trump is now right in the Kremlin .. well, or people with his own views .. when does it reach you wassat
        2. +7
          April 8 2020 19: 59
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Mr. Svarog, and you, you personally, whom you would like to see in the Kremlin. Tryndet not coolies tossing and turning - you personally.

          Yes, I have answered this question a hundred times. I want to see a team with socialist views in the Kremlin. Grudinin, Platoshkin .. in my opinion worthy candidates.
          1. +11
            April 8 2020 21: 53
            All who were not afraid to publicly oppose the pension robbery are worthy candidates.
            What little, there are such.
            1. +1
              April 10 2020 06: 53
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              All who were not afraid to publicly oppose the pension robbery are worthy candidates.

              Is this, for example, Khodorkovsky? laughing
          2. +7
            April 9 2020 05: 27
            Quote: Svarog
            Grudinin, Platoshkin ..

            There is such a joke
            Grudinin is a communist
            As for Platoshkin, there is such a level of inadequacy over the last half of the year that you wonder
            1. -2
              April 9 2020 16: 05
              Tell me who your idol is and I’ll tell you who you are.
              Grudinin?
              This is not just stupid. This is already funny.
              1. AUL
                0
                April 9 2020 18: 12
                Quote: Mestny
                Tell me who your idol is and I’ll tell you who you are.

                Well, who YOUR idol is understandable. Further - in the text ...
            2. Aag
              +1
              April 9 2020 20: 19
              As for Platoshkin, there is such a level of inadequacy over the past half year
              You can link, or whatever you have, otherwise I did not notice.
              1. -2
                April 10 2020 01: 26
                Yes please https://vk.com/platoshkin.nikolay
                1. Aag
                  +1
                  April 10 2020 08: 48
                  Thank you. But what exactly seemed to you inadequate, at least thesisally.
                  1. +2
                    April 10 2020 15: 09
                    A lot of text will turn out. I look at his page at the moment. Just take the latest posts.
                    1. Well, let’s skip the video about Lenin. I don’t want to spend time on parsing chatter
                    2. post: have you heard anything about the party Veterans of Russia?
                    I googled this Ildar Rezyapov. And I found exactly one article that exactly repeats the information presented by Platoshkin as a kind of political "insider" (with a hint "I know all these ghouls"). And this article was published at https://www.idelreal.org/a/29957271.html Wow, a source of information for a member of the Communist Party. Let us suppose. Rezyapov is a veteran of military operations in the North Caucasus. I fully admit that he "served as a clerk at the headquarters," but Platoshkin spent the entire 90s in Germany at the ambassadorial grub, with a short break, so he also did not feed the lice in the trench. Consider the conflict of Rezyapov and the "Greens" mentioned in the article, on whose side Platoshkin and his "new socialism" stand. Who are the "green" in Russia and the world has long been clear (I spoke about this recently https://topwar.ru/169713-v-evrope-zagovorili-o-nehvatke-medikamentov-i-zavisimosti-ot-proizvoditelej-v- kitae-i-indii.html # comment-id-10286775) and it is strange that a member of the Communist Party, in fact, is in favor of blocking the access of the country's largest enterprise in its industry to the field on the basis of the howling of the "greens" with their tarnished reputation. Moreover, he does not offer any alternative. Platoshkin for stopping a strategic enterprise to please the extortionists? Well, right, and then how then yell that Putin closed all the factories :) Further on the WHO-declared pandemic on March 11. Yes, Putin closed the borders only on March 16 (Platoshkin stands for the priority of the WHO order over the legislation of the Russian Federation?), But already on March 17, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is holding an "all-Russian protest action", and this is during the fight against the virus ... What was the need, besides PR, unclear. It was possible to transfer to May without problems. Somehow, he immediately lost the thought of a pandemic declared by WHO ... here he refers to a permit issued earlier by city administrations, which was issued long before WHO was announced. At least strange behavior, isn't it? "It is necessary to sue Putin that he delayed 5 days with the closure of the borders, and we can hold rallies because PR is important ..."Pure infantilism.
                    I wanted to comment on several of his posts, but "many letters" are obtained laughing hi
                    1. Aag
                      +1
                      April 10 2020 16: 09
                      Thanks for the clarification and your time. hi
                      Until digging through your links.
                      I'm afraid it may turn out that all the applicants are just talkers, or, as always, pursue their goals that do not coincide with the interests of the country and people.
                      But for now, everything I heard from Platoshkin sounded reasonable and convincing ... hi
                      1. 0
                        April 10 2020 17: 24
                        Quote: AAG
                        But for now, everything I heard from Platoshkin sounded reasonable and convincing ...

                        I also thought so at one time, but the further into the forest, the thicker the partisans ... I will get lost, even half a year or a year ago I did not seem to say stupid things, but apparently the struggle for "political capital" requires sacrifices. One involuntarily wonders, isn't it more comfortable for him in "eternal opposition to power", when he doesn't have to do anything special, and most importantly he never has to answer for anything? Has the well-fed "Zyuganov pension" become an end in itself for the current "communists"? I do not know... request
                      2. Aag
                        +1
                        April 10 2020 22: 16
                        Yes, like, he doesn’t favor them, Zyuganov’s ... He doesn’t rank himself among them. Or did I miss something again?
                      3. Aag
                        +1
                        April 10 2020 22: 21
                        Your "I don't know .." applies to me too.
                        The wildly increased number of radicals is straining, lacking knowledge, but is furiously eager to do something.
                        And you need to do something ... hi
          3. -1
            April 10 2020 03: 35
            It's not meant to be. Only not Grudinin. Socialist - yes. It turns out we are not so different.
        3. +3
          April 8 2020 22: 53
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          who would like to see in the Kremlin.

          I voted for Grudinin. And according to how much dirt the official media poured on him, he is our man. And his program is correct. hi
          1. -5
            April 9 2020 16: 06
            That is, the dirtier the person - the more he is yours?
            Everything is clear, cho.
            Is everything that was told about him turned out to be untrue?
            1. +4
              April 9 2020 16: 22
              Quote: Mestny
              That is, the dirtier the person - the more he is yours?

              Yes, because official media outlets only honest honests. If an honest person is poured with mud, he will still remain honest. But the corrupt scum as you do not launder, it will still remain corrupt scum.
              Quote: Mestny
              Is everything that was told about him turned out to be untrue?

              Do you have at least one legally proven fact of theft by Grudinin? And about the violation of privatization, you tell Putin’s friends about it. Chubais, Deripaska, Sechin.
              1. +1
                April 9 2020 19: 31
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Yes, for the official media only smears dirt on honest

                Is it Mavrodi and Basayev, in your opinion, were honest? Obama and Bush? Poroshenko, Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky? Well, they are also watered by the official media laughing
                But in general, the statement of the phrase "The media throw mud at only the honest" says a lot. The media are corrupt, this is undoubtedly, but to say that all information that goes against your worldview is false is just the apogee of infantilism
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                And about the violation of privatization, you tell Putin’s friends about it. Chubais, Deripaska, Sechin.

                You will go so far as to justify Vlasov's betrayal on the grounds that millions more were captured in one way or another. What is the difference then? Any honest communist would put Grudinin against the wall, and you have a "Communist Party" as his first number in the elections. How did it happen that the former employees of YUKOS entered the State Duma on the lists of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation? No, we don't fucking need such "communists". People do not believe you and they have every reason for this.
                Nominate a worthy candidate, drive all trash out of the party, finally do at least something for the country, and do not boast of what was done in the USSR (to which the current Communist Party has nothing to do). Then I and many others will vote for such a Communist Party. And while they have what they have, their rating is around 15%. This is the honest response of the people to the actions of such a "Communist Party"
            2. +1
              April 9 2020 16: 41
              The truth is not important to them.
              We came to the conclusion that those who do not have support have nothing to catch.
              The field over there is clearly cleared, just the question: Why did Sobchak use the administrative levers as now, he lost the election to Yakovlev. GDP at that time was the right hand.
              I do not agitate anyone, everyone does it himself.
              1. +2
                April 10 2020 07: 30
                The field is cleared, you say? Khakassia, the governor of the region from the Communist Party, before that they were from United Russia. Well? How did the region live better? Wages have increased, the region has closed debts, prices have decreased? Is the governor raising the authority of the Communist Party by his deeds? Yes, there is nothing of this, everything is like everywhere else, prices are rising, salaries are falling, infrastructure is declining, the governor draws salaries for himself and his people and distributes an apartment. Now, the coronavirus does not bother communists either, they have innate immunity. Well, straight face of the party. So what is the difference between modern communists in business from those who offer to "eat macaroshki", "you were not asked to give birth," etc. The answer is simple, in nothing but verbal diarrhea.
          2. 0
            April 9 2020 20: 42
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
            who would like to see in the Kremlin.

            I voted for Grudinin. And according to how much dirt the official media poured on him, he is our man. And his program is correct. hi

            His program was contrary to the program of the Communist Party.
            And yet - the village voted for anyone, but not for him. The village is aware of how they squeezed land into 90 land- SPK-AO-ZAO
            How do you know ZAO from AO? The fact that there are 49 holders of shares in the company, of which 96% of the shares belong to the family ...
            Too shy to ask, did he refuse the shares in favor of the Communist Party? Asya ?????
            1. +1
              April 9 2020 21: 49
              Quote: your1970
              His program was contrary to the program of the Communist Party.

              Putin’s actions contradict his statements. This is much cooler! wink
              1. +2
                April 10 2020 08: 52
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Quote: your1970
                His program was contrary to the program of the Communist Party.

                Putin’s actions contradict his statements. This is much cooler! wink

                No! You have already decided that it is bad, this is enough!
                But Grudinin going to the polls and not able to deal with the minimum problem - with his accounts (he closed everything, no, he didn’t close, he forgot, but there’s no money for that!) Causes confusion and fear ...
                After all, they put a little pressure on him, a bit and he swam. Not the United States, terrorists, pensioners, oligarchs, cheap wages, NATO, emergency housing, coronovirus, falling oil prices, security officials ......- no! ¡In total merely his own accounts ...
                If he didn’t even cope with this penny threat, how will he keep the US strike? No way ....
      8. +22
        April 8 2020 18: 51
        Quote: Svarog
        But not working in the Kremlin

        There are many formulas and economic laws that do not work.
        1. +5
          April 8 2020 21: 55
          There is obscurity and personal loyalty to a superior and everything, nothing else works.
          1. -3
            April 9 2020 16: 07
            Is this about the Soviet regime?
            Exactly, it was. I remember very well - extreme sycophancy, theft, meanness, and contempt for the working people. "
            1. +1
              April 9 2020 18: 33
              So you haven’t changed your habits now
            2. Aag
              +1
              April 9 2020 20: 24
              "utter sycophancy, theft, meanness, and contempt for the working people"
              Is it more direct, large-scale than now?
              1. +1
                April 9 2020 20: 47
                Quote: AAG
                "utter sycophancy, theft, meanness, and contempt for the working people"
                Is it more direct, large-scale than now?

                Yes, no less .........
                "If you study, you will go to college, if you will not, go to vocational school !!!!" ....
                Purely respectful to the working class, each parent spoke in 70-80 ....
                1. 0
                  April 10 2020 02: 33
                  Quote: your1970
                  Quote: AAG
                  "utter sycophancy, theft, meanness, and contempt for the working people"
                  Is it more direct, large-scale than now?

                  Yes, no less .........
                  "If you study, you will go to college, if you will not, go to vocational school !!!!" ....
                  Purely respectful to the working class, each parent spoke in 70-80 ....

                  On my own behalf, I will add how in those "distant" times the attitude of society towards working professions was.
                  Decoding GPTU - "Lord, Help
                  Stupid Get in. "
                  That's it. sad
                  1. Aag
                    +1
                    April 10 2020 23: 32
                    Well, really, don’t bend over. More often than not they said it with self-irony.
                    Do you think they’re better treated now? When for each (not self-employed, with all the risks) workaholic there are a couple of managers, an accountant, a lawyer, a general manager, a manager, a deputy general manager ... a gene .der.po ...? Yes, and how many vocational schools are left? With the Soviets, a worker could get more than a manager! Now I see no examples.
                    1. 0
                      April 11 2020 19: 36
                      Quote: AAG
                      Well, right, don't go too far.This was often said with self-irony.
                      Do you think they’re better treated now? When for each (not self-employed, with all the risks) workaholic there are a couple of managers, an accountant, a lawyer, a general manager, a manager, a deputy general manager ... a gene .der.po ...? Yes, and how many vocational schools are left? With the Soviets, a worker could get more than a manager! Now I see no examples.

                      Not at all! "Most often said"in all seriousness. Tested on myself. And so it is.
                      And I'm not bending anything.
                      And yes, now they are not better treated, unfortunately.
                      "Nothing is new under the moon."
        2. AUL
          +1
          April 9 2020 18: 14
          Quote: Gene84
          There are many formulas and economic laws that do not work.

          And not only economic!
      9. +13
        April 8 2020 19: 41
        As I understand it, the author claims that academics are to blame for all our troubles, that there should be collective discussion and collective responsibility for everyone. Awesome!
        What academicians does the author condemn? And who and when listened to them? Mr. Yeltsin was more driven by alcohol, psychics and lust for power; Mr. Sergey Vladilenovich Kindersurprise, now approaching the position of a gray cardinal, when he was the head of the oil and gas complex, also surrounded himself not at all with academicians, but with psychics; the thieving swindler Boris Gryzlov, who stained himself with tricks with the criminal Petrik, even stated that “the Academy of Sciences is a“ bulwark of obscurantism. ”They were never interested in the opinion of professionals - otherwise they would not have hung themselves up with stolen swindlers like“ academician ”Kadyrov,” doctor technical sciences "Rogozin or one nationwide candidate of economic sciences, not a day in science.
        Collective responsibility, you say? Shchaz! We are already paying the price for the fact that for three decades the country has been sitting deep between the buttocks, from the second place in the economy it has sunk into the same buttocks, and there is no way for that. Hundreds of domineering husbands, allegedly "responsible" for something, having sucked their fill, piled over the hill, hundreds more are ready to do it. But what have the academics to do with if the RAS, which once played an important role in the creation of atomic weapons, delivery vehicles, energy, etc., is now reduced to a state of insignificance, if cash flows are redirected past the honest RAS towards all kinds of Skolkovo and Rusnano?
        And one more thing: in order to accept or reject the opinion of academicians, one needs to have a comparable level of knowledge and experience with them. The crowd, by definition, does not possess this; Ball opinion from the government, as well as from the crowd, does not matter. There is no need to hang dogs on academics, especially since they have nothing to do with the decisions of the authorities.
      10. +2
        April 9 2020 08: 08
        The real saying .... didn’t didn’t answer, delegated didn’t answer, pretended not to hear didn’t answer either.
    2. +21
      April 8 2020 14: 21
      So for a long time everything was offered - OS of the USSR 2.1, corrected and supplemented .. 2.1 - this is so that the version is odd, otherwise it's a bad omen .. wink
      1. -18
        April 8 2020 14: 45
        But what about those who do not want USSR 2.0? Will you plant or send? Or maybe just bury it? and there’s more than enough to believe. especially to the younger generation, this is all alien and strange. no need to reanimate corpses. need to move forward.
        1. +12
          April 8 2020 14: 49
          Well - you liberists did something with those who did not want to put the bourgeois on their necks? So we are. And if you will be coddled - that means, we will plant and evict. Or maybe just bury it if necessary. According to circumstances..
          1. -17
            April 8 2020 15: 00
            Firstly, I'm generally apolitical. completely. me that white that red that green and generally any color to one place. and everything else thanks for the answer. he once again proved to me that you won’t bring anything good to the country.
            1. +20
              April 8 2020 15: 16
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Firstly, I'm generally apolitical. completely. me that white that red that green and generally any color to one place. and everything else thanks for the answer. he once again proved to me that you won’t bring anything good to the country.

              Well, if you are as apolitical as you assure
              me that white that red
              then how to understand you
              you won’t bring anything good to the country
              .
              Then wait for the result, since you are so apolitical. But you are deceiving us when you assure yourselves of political apathy. After all, you are well-known on the website of Patriot. wink
              1. -11
                April 8 2020 15: 31
                I am a patriot of the country and not beliefs. I'm tired of repeating this. As for the result, I will answer this way. I will defend and defend what is dear to me. country of loved ones. not the colors of flags and people carrying them. so clear?
                1. +11
                  April 8 2020 16: 01
                  A country without beliefs does not exist.
                  1. -8
                    April 8 2020 16: 35
                    in general, it’s pretty normal that someone loves their home and does not have political preferences.
                    1. +11
                      April 8 2020 16: 54
                      Then I don’t understand your trembling at all .. Nobody is going to touch your house even under the Soviet regime. Or do you still have a mansion on Rublevka? Then yes - you will get ..
                      1. -11
                        April 8 2020 17: 43
                        you somehow strange understand my words. I say that after your words it seems to me personally that your desires will harm my country. which means I will be your enemy. and that’s it. but not for political reasons, but because you want to destroy people that you don’t like. I do not want the resuscitation of a state that destroyed itself and betrayed its inhabitants. everything is much more commonplace. Do you really think that I will believe that only those who have a mansion on Rublevka bother you? yeah. Shaz. we already passed it. for you, those who live better than you will become badly growing. and you first wring out the mansions. then press the cottages and then you will get to simple cottages. thank. do not.
                      2. +15
                        April 8 2020 17: 50
                        No - you don’t understand correctly .. The enemy is not the one who I don’t like about political motives, but the one who wants to destroy me because he doesn’t like my political motives .. Actually, that was how it started in 1917, After all, the Bolsheviks were quite a peaceful people, even the death penalty was immediately abolished .. But when they started to cut them, they turned on the answer, no less cruel. Well, how do you like? So about here and will be ..
                        As for property - if you stole it from the state, or stole it, then you got ... No - but who needs your summer cottage? Own yourself calmly .. Just teach - if you have a brick mansion with a swimming pool and about three floors - you will have to sweat a lot to prove the legality of receiving funds for it .. wink
                      3. -2
                        April 9 2020 16: 15
                        I'll tell myself. There is plenty to shoot from, I know how to do it perfectly.
                        If such a turmoil begins, and such guardians for justice appear, I will shoot as many communist heads as I can.
                        So it is still unknown which of us got.
                        For now, download on the Internet. It is safe for you.
                      4. 0
                        April 9 2020 20: 52
                        Quote: paul3390
                        Then I don’t understand your trembling at all .. Or do you still have a mansion on Rublevka? Then yes - you will get ..

                        Zhores Alferov also had a mansion and the income from the funds was not sickly.
                        Would he too - would he hit?
              2. +17
                April 8 2020 22: 09
                Quote: Leshy1975
                But you are deceiving us when you assure yourselves of political apathy. After all, you are well-known on the website of Patriot.

                I will add that a very, very stubborn ryaputriot. She doesn’t even go to bed and doesn’t go out to dinner, she tells everything and talks about how and to whom it is good to live in Russia.
                Sometimes I even feel sorry for him, a person doesn’t protect himself at all. crying
                1. 0
                  April 9 2020 16: 18
                  Patriot is better than you traitors.
                  What do you think-burn out under the new government? What if not?
                  1. 0
                    April 9 2020 18: 38
                    Well, now we feel the bottom.
                    That's better?
            2. AUL
              +9
              April 8 2020 20: 45
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Firstly, I'm generally apolitical. completely. me that white that red that green and generally any color to one place

              Oh, you are cunning, Dmitry! Godlessly dissemble! Apolitical, you say? So why then in every discussion on political topics you are present in huge doses? On duty? bully
              1. -2
                April 9 2020 16: 21
                So far, only communist nonsense here on the site are blooming in double flowers.
                Why are you there, minus the whole basement? Fighters for the happiness of the common people.
                You are a pack, as befits the Communists. Vicious, but fortunately not numerous and not very smart.
                Not all of you understand, but these sprays of red saliva occur on the Internet.
                Take the risk of doing this in real life, and red snot will fly instead of drooling.
                1. AUL
                  +1
                  April 9 2020 18: 21
                  Quote: Mestny
                  You are a pack, as befits the Communists.

                  If this is addressed to me - I must upset you. Not a communist, not a member of the CPSU, not a member of the Communist Party and never was. And, even more so, not edros. Convinced non-partisan. True, he was a pioneer and Komsomol member. But then they didn’t ask me, they accepted everyone with a conveyor belt.
          2. -8
            April 8 2020 15: 18
            Quote: paul3390
            And if you will be coddled - that means, we will plant and evict. Or maybe just bury it if necessary.

            are you not afraid to be in places not so remote? bully
            1. +15
              April 8 2020 16: 51
              No. If I nakosyach at a jail time - it means I’ll sit down. You have to take yours. And you, as I understand it, an adherent of the liberal theory that in the USSR they planted millions and for no reason?
              1. -14
                April 8 2020 17: 02
                Quote: paul3390
                And you, as I understand it, an adherent of the liberal theory that in the USSR they planted millions and for no reason?

                1) I understand your way of thinking, or rather, its lack - you think in cliches ... I don’t see any reason to persuade - life will teach ... bully
                2) according to Zemsky in the USSR was planted:
                "At the beginning of 1954, the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs compiled a certificate on them of NS Khrushchev about the number of those convicted of counterrevolutionary crimes, that is, according to Article 58 of the RSFSR Criminal Code and according to the corresponding articles of the Criminal Code of other Union republics, for the period 192I-1953 (the document was signed by three people - the Prosecutor General of the USSR R.A.Rudenko, the Minister of Internal Affairs of the USSR S.N.Kruglov and the Minister of Justice of the USSR K.P. Gorshenin) It was a certificate on five typewritten pages, compiled according to to the direction of NS Khrushchev and dated February 1954, XNUMX.
                The document said that, according to the data available in the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, for the period from 1921 to the present, i.e., until the beginning of 1954, the counter-revolutionary crimes were condemned by the OGPU College and the NKVD Troika, the Special Conference, the Military College, courts and military tribunals 3 777 380 people, including to capital punishment - 642 980, to detention in camps and prisons for a period of 25 years and below - 2 369 220, to exile and deportation - 765 180 people. "
                as you see, this is, according to Soviet data, almost 4 million ... request
                I note that the dispossessed -4,5 million of which more than 2 million were exiled, as well as the exiled peoples-more than 2 million ...
                I recommend learning the history of Russia - you might grow wiser, although I do not believe ... request
                1. +11
                  April 8 2020 17: 05
                  Maybe - will you grow wiser if you learn the basic operations of arithmetic? And notice that this figure is over 32 years. And the number of repressed included the post-war, Vlasovites, policemen, traitors, etc. .. And then - compare with the numbers who served 30 years of democracy today.
                  1. -9
                    April 8 2020 17: 21
                    Quote: paul3390
                    Maybe - you get smarter

                    in your coordinates, no ... hi
                    Quote: paul3390
                    if you learn the basic operations of arithmetic? And notice that this figure is over 32 years.

                    yes, but crimes for the Kyrgyz Republic - not for criminal ... request

                    Quote: paul3390
                    And then - compare with the figures of the democracy that have served 30 years.

                    What is the number of political during this time! So are you a proponent of anal? bully
                    Quote: paul3390
                    And the number of repressed included post-war, Vlasovites, policemen, traitors, etc.

                    unlike you, I am educated and informed ...
                    "In one of the certificates prepared by the 1st special department of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs in December 1953 there is a note:" In total, 1921 people were convicted in 1938-2, of which 944% (879) were criminals "[ 30]. " hi
                    1. -2
                      April 9 2020 16: 27
                      It is useless to argue with them stubborn.
                      I tried once to ask such a question - you say millions did not plant, everyone lies. And how much they planted, and did they squeeze at all?
                      How much do you need, to say something - is this a bloody regime?
                      It turns out that everyone was rightly clamped (!!!!).
                      This is the main thing for the Communists. If you kill a person, you must necessarily repeat that you are doing this because he was against communism.
                      Then it does not count, it is possible.
                      Now imagine - they will come again. And they themselves will decide on the spot - whom to kill, and who just to rob.
                      1. 0
                        April 9 2020 17: 54
                        Quote: Mestny
                        How much do you need, to say something - is this a bloody regime?

                        if you look at the Republic of Ingushetia, then the Bolsheviks called IN2 bloody for ridiculous losses by their standards .... for Bloody Sunday - 130 killed and 299 wounded. hi
                        Quote: Mestny
                        It is useless to argue with them stubborn.

                        useless request these are fanatics - they need a freebie and that's all ... for her sake they’re ready to break, kill, rob ... they’re not able to build .... feel
          3. -11
            April 8 2020 16: 50
            See how you are buried - a random bulldozer at a construction site.
          4. +10
            April 8 2020 17: 20
            You are somehow too bloodthirsty. Do not scare liberal Putinists. Frightened, they will generally become inadequate. It’s enough to tighten the article in the modern Criminal Code and really put on it the problem with liberals of all stripes from security forces to sislibs will resolve itself: some will sit down, others will run away. But for this you yourself need the prerequisites ...
            1. -2
              April 9 2020 16: 28
              Do not be afraid of the Communist Zagrudininians.
              Nothing will break off for you.
              Jump on the Internet here and shut up.
        2. +16
          April 8 2020 16: 49
          Quote: carstorm 11
          But what about those who do not want USSR 2.0? Will you plant or send? Or maybe just bury it?

          "What are you worried about these people? Well, thirty million will die out. They did not fit into the market. Do not think about it - new ones will grow."
          I remember your ideologist spoke so. Well, replace the word market with the USSR or socialism. Or when others die out, for your pocket, that's fine. And here you are for what, you are children. So do you reason?
          1. -3
            April 9 2020 16: 30
            Ideologist? So what happens - is there any ideology?
            And since it is, it’s no worse than yours.
            And why change it to yours from a rotten corpse in the Mausoleum?
        3. +6
          April 8 2020 19: 44
          Quote: carstorm 11
          But what about those who do not want USSR 2.0? Will you plant or send? Or maybe just bury it? and there’s more than enough to believe. especially to the younger generation, this is all alien and strange. no need to reanimate corpses. need to move forward.

          Move forward! But only for millions!
          What is the cliché immediately hanging: "plant or send"? Or dig holes? It's time to get away from stereotypes.
          Where do you live? Here!!!
          When do you live? Now!
          Communicate with whom? With us!
          Well, talk here and now!
          Do not offer to plant or evict! Zaezh
          A hackneyed topic!
          1. -2
            April 9 2020 16: 35
            So here half of them today are jumping with this theme - "Grudinin will come, then we will rob!"
            We will determine who bourgeois and who not.
            So I can immediately tell how it works, what to guess.
            There are two neighbors - one is normal, the other is a communist. One of them has a house, a house, while the other has a Soviet coat and Internet access.
            And so the communists came to power.
            Ah, do you have a house? Bourgeois! We’ll take away, and shoot the family. Well, let’s hand it over to the authorities, let them die - after all, we are for communist legality!
            This is not what I came up with if anyone does not know.
            It has already been so.
            1. -5
              April 9 2020 18: 30
              It happened before. They began to squeeze property from the rich, then it came to engineers, doctors, in short, the then middle class. Well, then the boomerang flew back, they began to shake the peasants more prosperous and more skilled workers. Lumpen, I mean the Sharikovs. In general, Bulgakov's Heart of a Dog is a masterpiece.
              So qualitatively display the Communists and their fans ..
        4. 0
          April 9 2020 08: 53
          It will be as simple as two and two laughing didn't fit ... in the commune wink
        5. +1
          April 9 2020 11: 32
          Quote: carstorm 11
          But what about those who do not want USSR 2.0? Will you plant or send? Or maybe just bury it? and there’s more than enough to believe. especially to the younger generation, this is all alien and strange. no need to reanimate corpses. need to move forward.

          Do not worry, no one will be sent to prison, no one will be sent out, and the corpse cannot be reanimated in any way - no one has returned from there. A couple of dozens of quasi-communists in VO cannot do all this laughing
          1. -3
            April 9 2020 16: 43
            And they jump so vigorously - it’s a pleasure to watch.
            It's a shame that this is VO. It is in.
            No matter how few this dirty crowd of comm trolls are, the mood of normal people can be spoiled.
            Well, this is how you walk along the street, and such are standing, and swearing together and dirty. What kind of conversation can take place here? And the administration of the resource does not respond to this. type - we have different opinions.
            There are sectarian resources, the name of one person, the Leader of the sect, such as oper.ru But this is understandable - the owner himself decides what to fill in the brains of the "people".
            And here it seems, these dirty friendly crowds should not be.
            1. +1
              April 9 2020 16: 56
              If you post your thoughts here, then please read the strangers.
              Or there are two opinions, one is Yours, the other is wrong.
              Or want to hear only His? Because doesn't smell?
            2. +1
              April 9 2020 18: 44
              How do you tear that start)
              Feeling already ... that's good
        6. Aag
          0
          April 9 2020 20: 32
          "No need to reanimate the corpses. We must move forward."
          In bright capitalism? No, really, tell me. I even put + to you, but they minded me for a very reasonable question. Judging by previous posts, you advocate something else.
    3. +10
      April 8 2020 16: 15
      Quote: Doccor18
      You criticize - offer
      Easily.

      Quote: Doccor18
      suggest - do
      At this moment, the Russian Guard comes, and the FSB begins an investigation into the attempt on the foundations of the constitutional system.
      1. -14
        April 8 2020 17: 03
        Quote: military_cat
        The FSB begins an investigation into the attempt on the foundations of the constitutional system.

        and rightly - without this, RI was destroyed by the benign ... request
        1. +16
          April 8 2020 17: 23
          The Russian Empire was, you will not believe, destroyed by the elite of the Russian Empire. So that complacency has nothing to do with it ...
          1. -4
            April 8 2020 18: 21
            Quote: romey
            was not believe

            why do I just know that ... hi
            Quote: romey
            complacency has nothing to do with it ...

            not at all - it was the compassion and benefit of the stupidity of monarchists like Shulgin that brought them into the car IN2 request
        2. -1
          April 8 2020 23: 47
          Quote: ser56
          and right
          Have you ever heard of the Stockholm Syndrome?
          1. -2
            April 9 2020 13: 57
            Quote: military_cat
            Have you ever heard of the Stockholm Syndrome?

            I know a lot ... wanted to say something? request
      2. +2
        April 8 2020 19: 46
        Don’t drop it!
        They have enough real affairs!
    4. +22
      April 8 2020 18: 51
      Quote: Doccor18
      "If you criticize - offer, offer - do, done - answer" - one of Stalin's sayings.

      He was a wonderful person. Great.
    5. +1
      April 10 2020 00: 35
      Actually, it was said by Sergei Korolev, not Stalin
    6. 0
      April 12 2020 18: 14
      Offered
      1. Create a state bank for servicing bonus personal accounts of citizens of the Russian Federation
      2. Put 90% of the NB fund into personal accounts of citizens of the Russian Federation (about $ 3000 per account)
      3. Monthly transfer to personal accounts of citizens of the Russian Federation 50% of the total sales of raw materials
      4. In order to encourage savings, establish account returns of at least 10% per annum
  2. +10
    April 8 2020 14: 14
    after all, it is only necessary to start a business after a decision is made. And do not have ten coachmen on one cart. One is enough. But the one who will know which coast he needs to cross.

    That's when such a coachman appears then and there will be nothing to discuss .. then only Ur will remain screaming. But while there is no such coachman .. the one that is, he is not the same ..
    1. +10
      April 8 2020 14: 44
      Grandfather Krylov has long described it ...
    2. -7
      April 8 2020 14: 47
      All, alas, are mortal. And Putin too. That is why it is better for the country that, while he is alive and has not yet lost his "rating", he WOULD step aside and recommend his successor, whom he trusts (for today, I see Shoigu as his successor). The people will support (would support).
      Then, remaining a living conscience of the nation, the transfer of power would have passed, gently.
      Otherwise, while Putin is in place, an alternative will not appear. Then, after Putin (alas), a new debate will begin, and, I think, the last collapse of the country. The deputies have already adopted amendments to the Constitution. Everything is ready for the new election of Putin.

      However, the point is not even in Putin’s lifelong rule, but in his virtually permanent environment, and this is definitely a disaster!
      1. -14
        April 8 2020 15: 02
        Quote: PavelM
        All, alas, are mortal. And Putin too. That is why it is better for the country that, while he is alive and has not yet lost his "rating", he WOULD leave and recommend his successor, whom he trusts (for today, I see Shoigu as his successor)

        Putin left and Shoigu? laughing Oh, how tired I am here to warn sons inflated with Western propoganda .. Well, you don’t need to drive the western wave to Russia! Maybe we can figure it out calmly? And we’ll drive the wave backwards .. Russia is resisting, despite the economic sanctions and other Western set-ups .. Do you want the 90s again? Russia has a pillow to counter Western provocations and not in US treasury bills only ..
        China and I were preparing for this .. hi And we did it !!!!!
        1. -2
          April 8 2020 15: 20
          Quote: Mobius
          We are with china

          Are you sure that China is with you? bully Nothing red teaches ... request
          1. +3
            April 8 2020 23: 04
            Quote: ser56
            Are you sure that China is with you? Nothing red teaches

            China is not our friend at all, that’s understandable. But their economic system is much better built. Social capitalism, or capitalist socialism.
            1. -2
              April 9 2020 13: 53
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Social capitalism, or capitalist socialism.

              long back from there? hi
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              But their economic system is much better built.

              well, where we are not .... you are funny - you know little, but are prone to exaltation, like a young lady .... request
              1. +4
                April 9 2020 14: 24
                Quote: ser56
                well, where we are not .... you are funny - you know little, but are prone to exaltation, like a young lady ....

                In a decent society, farting is not cultural! wink If you do not want your um ... the answers did not look like gas, formulate the answer \ question correctly, with arguments / rebuttals. bully
                1. -3
                  April 9 2020 14: 38
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  In a decent society, farting is not cultural!

                  depends on the country .... by the way - you are definitely not a young lady? feel
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  formulate the answer \ question correctly, with arguments / rebuttals

                  take your teaching to you and your messages ... request
                  1. +3
                    April 9 2020 14: 47
                    Quote: ser56
                    By the way - you are definitely not a young lady?

                    Want to check it out? belay
                    Quote: ser56
                    relate your teachings to you and your messages

                    My message is the main thing - the meaning. What can not be said about yours. Silly questions
                    Quote: ser56
                    long back from there?

                    and even more worthless and meaningless assumptions.
                    Quote: ser56
                    you're funny - you know little, but are prone to exaltation, like a young lady ....

                    tongue
                    1. -2
                      April 9 2020 14: 57
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Want to check it out?

                      I believe women, I’ll lie anyway ... request
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      My message is the main thing - the meaning

                      this is your misconception, usually peculiar to the illiterate .... request
                      consider ....
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      But their economic system is much better built.

                      typical illiterate statement - what is better? Yes, much more?
                      Enlightenment - China is not self-sufficient in energy and food products, the country has a terrible ecology request In the Russian Federation, this is much better, as well as the standard of living ....
                      we go further:
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      capitalist socialism.

                      oxymoron or if in a simple terminological nonsense, issuing no knowledge of the basics ....
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      more worthless and meaningless assumptions.

                      see above - this is just a statement of the situation, young lady ... request
            2. 0
              April 10 2020 09: 22
              How much better? You will take an interest in what salaries, pensions, living conditions and social equality are.
              1. 0
                April 10 2020 19: 22
                Quote: Voyager
                And social equality.

                Take an interest in the meaning of the term median wealth, and compare the numbers for this indicator in China and ours.
                1. 0
                  April 10 2020 19: 27
                  Compare how many elderly in percentage terms receive pensions from us and from them.
      2. +8
        April 8 2020 16: 32
        Ha, Ha ... Successor ... Is it really not clear that the successor will be faithful to the Zero, and not the country and people.
      3. -6
        April 8 2020 18: 03
        All, alas, are mortal. And Putin too. That is why it is better for the country that, while he is alive and has not yet lost his "rating", he WOULD move away and recommend his successor

        laughing
        Well, like, while you are alive, if you love your wife, then recommend your successor to your wife.
        laughing
        Interestingly, your wife will be delighted with such news or will give you a head with a rolling pin?
        But seriously, then
        don’t worry about the successor, Putin’s circle is surrounded by security forces, there will always be successors, and they’re extremely tough.
        Another thing is that Putin is a very experienced politician and with him we are more likely to take a softer path, without much upheaval. And it would be extremely foolish to refuse this experience. bully
        1. +9
          April 8 2020 22: 19
          What experience? The demographics are negative, fewer people are born than they die. The economy is not developing, foreign policy is in the pen: they don’t let us into the Olympics, they don’t want to sell us anything, they don’t give us loans, they even put pressure on the Chinese so that they don’t give us anything, they made us supply gas to Ukraine, and even at a European price, 3 The lard of greens was fined in favor of the Ukrainians, the whole world was convinced that we poisoned Skripal and our daughter, they shot down a Boeing in Donbas, and we put the doping of athletes at the state level, even taking away medals from our Olympians for Sochi.
          1. 0
            April 9 2020 11: 23
            What experience?

            Well, yes, there are a lot of problems in our country: our economy is weak, and in health and education problems and corruption, and utilities are growing and salaries are low, and we go under sanctions, which in many ways create and exacerbate the above problems. Moreover, we see all this with our own eyes, and therefore it is impossible to convince us, because we cannot but believe our own words.
            And for all this, the head of state - Putin is responsible.
            ***
            That's right, but for example, the diagram:
            We are all adults and we understand that normal body temperature is 36,6, we measure body temperature and see 37,9 and understand that this is a symptom of some kind of unhealthy body. And no one can convince us of this. After all, we are adults and we well know that a healthy body should have a temperature of 36,6.
            The attending physician is to blame!
            All right.
            But only when the attending physician began to heal at the moment when the body temperature was 41.
            During the treatment, it was possible to lower the temperature to 37,9.
            It’s somewhat strange to blame and suspect the doctor that he wants to kill the patient (and after all, many people in VO say this, question: for what purpose are they doing this?) - I would like to kill I would kill when the temperature was 41.

            When Putin headed the state he got: pro-Western oligarchs (remember their "Russian" surnames), corrupt officials (including employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Prosecutor's Office), a defeated army and a tortured, exhausted, barely surviving people.

            Question: what forces did he have to rely on to prevent the country from dying? (if inters, they can tell who Putin was forced to lean on to save the country)
            In order to build a just life in the country, first you need to save this country.
            ---
            By 2007, the country came to life, largely due to the fact that the nationalization of the oil sector began, that criminal cases were instituted against corrupt officials, that the personalities of the oligarchy changed, the state budget already increased the income of the oligarchs.
            ---
            But by 2007, Russia faced a different challenge: the population still does not know that the country was facing the threat of a full-scale civil war, in comparison with which the war in Chechnya would seem like an easy walk.
            Cherkesov's article "We cannot allow the soldiers to become traders" - about that time.
            The conflict escaped the valuable efforts of former KGB officers including Kryuchkov, a valuable compromise: instead of Ustinov, Chaika took over.
            Nationalization has stopped, the fight against corruption, too. Once again: paused, not stopped.
            ---
            The Soviet Union was a wonderful state, the healthcare system (sanatoriums, dispensaries, first-aid posts at factories, etc.), the education facilities were built almost perfectly ... you can still list a lot of good things in the Union.
            But, but he collapsed, along with everything wonderful. And it collapsed not because most of the people wanted it, but primarily because the CPSU elite wanted to legitimize their privileges and wanted to merge in ecstasy with the West. That destroyed the country.
            An important point: not the people, but the ELITE destroyed the country. That is, the elite’s possibilities for the collapse of the country are almost more than that of the people (especially if they manipulate the people, we recall the temperature of 37,9)
            ---
            Putin inherited not only a weakened country, but also a pro-Western elite, ready for the merger with the West to allow the collapse of Russia.
            As Shoigu recalled, he (then the Minister of Emergency Situations flew with the newly elected president) in a plane from another emergency, Putin was silent then suddenly said "there is still a chance to save Russia and this chance must be used."
            Once again: CHANCE.
            ---
            What is happening now.
            In January, the government changed.
            What does this mean?
            This means a change in the country's movement for integration with the West. This change occurred right after Merkel’s visit to Moscow (it seems that she didn’t bring the best news for us).
            A change of course is an increase in the split of the elites (who are able to break up the country) into pro-Western and national.
            In order to defeat the pro-Western bloodlessly, you need powerful support from the people.
            The pro-Western elite understands this, and therefore fully charges all social networks, including HE, with anti-Putin content (speculating on pandemics).
            And in a hurry, because she understands that before the summer she has no time.
            Continued later.
            1. Aag
              +1
              April 9 2020 21: 39
              "Well, yes, we have a lot of problems in our country" ...
              No, it’s true, you started approving lives (hereinafter referred to as the text)., I also believed this earlier (or I wanted to). But realities insistently talk about something else.
              Further in your commentary, you will look at external causes. (Yes, they have always been and will be). But, you must agree, there are no objective arguments for convincing those who doubt that the country is moving in the right, progressive direction, as it were, no longer (?!).
        2. +7
          April 8 2020 23: 10
          Quote: flicker
          Putin’s entourage is surrounded by many security forces, there will always be successors, and they’re extremely tough.

          And will these tough people crush tanks? I don’t think so.
          To conclude your analogy about your wife, I want to ask you a question - how will your wife behave if you spend a large part of your family’s budget on maintaining your mistress and expensive toys for a long time? At the time when she and the children in the castoffs are walking? I think you will not get off with a rolling pin. wink
          1. 0
            April 9 2020 12: 31
            And will these tough people crush tanks? I don’t think so.

            I also don’t think so, especially the people.
            Who condemns China today for Tiananmen?
            But the people sometimes appear distraught part. Maidan to you as a keepsake.
            So did Yanukovych have to suppress the Maidan or is it too bloody? And how many people died in the Donbass? And how many people died in Ukraine, because of this distraught people on the Maidan? How long has Ukraine left to exist?
            It was necessary to suppress the Maidan or not?
            ***
            how will your wife behave if you spend a large part of the family budget on maintaining your lover and on expensive toys for a long time?

            You have a strange view of the family.
            A family is created when family values ​​become higher than different mistresses and all the more expensive toys. Making lovers means breaking up a family.

            Putin has preserved and strengthened the country, because he appreciates it.

            At the time when she and the children in the castoffs are walking?

            I look and see traffic jams even in the provinces. Moreover, cars are pretty decent. Castoffs?
            Well, do your children walk in cast-offs?

            And yet, do you think it is better to die in expensive boots or survive in holey sandals?
            1. +3
              April 9 2020 13: 46
              Quote: flicker
              So did Yanukovych have to suppress the Maidan or is it too bloody?

              Your mistake is that you are discussing ways to solve popular unrest. The main mistake of Yanukovych is not this, but that he brought the country to the Maidan. Now Putin is following the same path.
              Quote: flicker
              Making lovers means breaking up a family.

              To invest in mansions abroad and a stabilization fund in state bonds of countries, likely opponents a way to ruin the country.
              Quote: flicker
              Putin has preserved and strengthened the country, because he appreciates it.

              Judging by the degradation of medicine and education, he strengthened it with a negative value. Count the number of hospitals in the country for the year 2000, and now.
              Quote: flicker
              I look and see traffic jams even in the provinces. Moreover, cars are pretty decent.

              And some one hundred and fifty years ago, the king rode horses. wink Zadolbali you measure the standard of living for cars - in the United States, all unemployed cars have. Let us consider the level of provision of housing and food - these methods are more relevant. In general, there is such a term as median wealth. Although what I mean - you do not care, Ave Putin! laughing
              1. -1
                April 9 2020 22: 39
                The main mistake of Yanukovych is not this, but that he brought the country to the Maidan
                Yeah, I brought it to mind:
                Kravchuk - get!
                Kuchma is getting!
                Yushchenko - Get!
                Yanukovych - get!
                Poroshenko - get!
                Zelensky - don't go to your grandmother
                And that "country" (at the peak of the Maidan gathered 150 thousand - is this a country?) Is Ukraine now breathing easier?
                Let’s on the level of housing and food
                Let's. Do you have no housing or do you have nothing?
        3. Aag
          -2
          April 9 2020 21: 19
          "It's another matter that Putin is a very experienced politician."
          Here I agree with you.
          ...
          "finish the journey"...
          Q. Where to?
    3. +11
      April 8 2020 16: 34
      Svarog ... Considering that Putin used to be the right person, you are relying on the capture of Crimea - well, not on a ride on a Siberian Crane. But Crimea is a geopolitical interest. Army, Navy would not be forgiven. And the people of Crimea. And all of Russia. I was forced to become "one". He became a companion for us, as he became a companion for all of us in the construction of the bridge. And then he returned to his previous state of a seven-bank mercenary, separate from us. It is possible to jump over your head once. But constantly, if there is no task and the corresponding level of personality? Dismiss! And we, not showing understanding, still treat him as an independent political figure, we all demand something. Not realizing that we are not on the list of his priorities.
      1. -5
        April 9 2020 16: 49
        As it is communist - he did it right, thank him for that, but we don’t like it, and we’ll shoot him.
        As a result - to shoot, to appropriate everything for yourself.
  3. -1
    April 8 2020 14: 15
    It’s time to put things in order in the country, but it seems to me that the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, and there is almost no time left.
    1. +23
      April 8 2020 14: 24
      Duc, he bred this whole muddy mess in the country, moreover, he carefully cherished it and cherished it for 20 years .. How now will it be to destroy its own brainchild with its own hands?
      1. +1
        April 8 2020 14: 29
        And he is afraid to admit that he is an eccentric.
        1. -5
          April 9 2020 16: 50
          It's good that he has people like you - smart, honest.
          What would he do without your advice? Perhaps the country would have collapsed long ago.
    2. +21
      April 8 2020 14: 29
      Quote: Ros 56
      It’s time to put things in order in the country, but it seems to me that the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, and there is almost no time left.

      And most likely he is not able to restore order in the sense that you offer. In order to do this, one must have strategic thinking. It is necessary to clearly imagine the image of the future that you are building, and accordingly to successively solve the problems that arise.
      Our president solves problems situationally. The image of the future he has is something between the Russian monarchy and wild capitalism. For some reason, hating everything Soviet, completely denying Leninism and Stalinism, Putin formed a support layer in the form of oligarchic layers and the largest bourgeoisie. The masses of the people became no longer needed in this picture of the world. That's why everything happens as it is.
      1. AUL
        +12
        April 8 2020 14: 47
        Quote: Antique
        Putin formed a support layer in the form of oligarchic layers and the largest bourgeoisie.

        And now "the tail wags the dog"!
        1. +7
          April 8 2020 16: 46
          And now "the tail wags the dog"!
          It is only necessary to add that the dog herself strove for this. When Putin was asked at a press conference who his stratum is and what social strata, he out of habit turned away from a direct answer.
          Because he always knew that power would never be delegated to the people. Because power is being transformed into capital and vice versa. And we see this very well with the example of government bodies. When the overwhelming majority of deputies are millionaires, or billionaires, the same thing is in SovFed. A federal minister is usually a dollar millionaire or multi-millionaire. Well and so on.
          1. 0
            April 9 2020 08: 11
            Dear porridge in your head - Because he always knew that power would never be delegated to the people. Everything is exactly the opposite, this people delegates power to the president and deputies, since he himself is the source of power.
            1. -1
              April 9 2020 08: 22
              Quote: Ros 56
              Everything is exactly the opposite, this people delegates power to the president and deputies, since he himself is the source of power.

              That is how it should be. In fact, as a result of a powerful brainwashing of the population, the destruction of the opposition, massive and regular election fraud, changes in laws and the Constitution, everything happens as I wrote. Power with the people, power is not going to be divided.
              From the very beginning of his political career, it was about 90 years, Putin clearly understood the importance of manipulative influences on legislative structures. Including the Constitutional Court. And there is clear evidence of this.
              Therefore, I am right. And about the porridge in the head, leave it to yourself.
              1. -2
                April 9 2020 12: 41
                Quote: Antique
                Quote: Ros 56
                Everything is exactly the opposite, this people delegates power to the president and deputies, since he himself is the source of power.

                That is how it should be. In fact, as a result of a powerful brainwashing of the population, the destruction of the opposition, massive and regular election fraud, changes in laws and the Constitution, everything happens as I wrote. Power with the people, power is not going to be divided.
                From the very beginning of his political career, it was about 90 years, Putin clearly understood the importance of manipulative influences on legislative structures. Including the Constitutional Court. And there is clear evidence of this.
                Therefore, I am right. And about the porridge in the head, leave it to yourself.

                facts of the annihilation of the opposition, massive and regular election fraud, clear evidence of manipulative influences on the legislative structures and the Constitutional Court - in the studio, or a talker and yap.
                1. 0
                  April 9 2020 13: 06
                  Quote: Gost2012
                  facts of the annihilation of the opposition, massive and regular election fraud, clear evidence of manipulative influences on the legislative structures and the Constitutional Court - in the studio, or a talker and yap.

                  Wow, as it is written! Experienced career activist. Immediately visible. I do not feed trolls. Goodbye.
                  1. -4
                    April 9 2020 16: 52
                    So are there facts, or not?
                    What troll burst? You at your communist seminars taught to be rude and answer a question with a question?
                2. +3
                  April 9 2020 18: 59
                  Well, here you are about the Constitutional Court: according to the same constitution, the Constitutional Court previously ruled that ebn should no longer be elected, but now it has rendered the opposite that n is possible. Shyly explaining this by the fact that it is not necessary to perceive the relationship here, since the historical moment is different, although the law is one and the same.
                  "You need to understand, yes!").
                  At this point, the cop finally legally fell to the bottom
    3. -23
      April 8 2020 14: 40
      It’s time to put things in order in the country, but it seems to me that the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, and there is almost no time left.

      A change of government is essentially a sign of a change from a pro-Western course. After the change of government, the split between the elites intensified (into pro-Western and national). For an unconditional victory, Putin needed powerful support from the people - hence the adoption of amendments through a nationwide poll. The strong support of the people would not allow deputies to preserve real estate abroad.
      In response, the pro-Western elite energized the "scribe-provocateurs" who drove the anti-Putin (read: anti-Russian) waves under the guise of "people's".
      The eternally dissatisfied "curds, yes atases" and all sorts of Bandera and "patriots of Israel" were immediately excited.

      And the deputies took it all together supporting the amendments (amendments necessary for the country!), As if making the president understand that they are more true than the people. bully

      But there is no silver lining. All the busiters are already on the pencil, soon they will hit their financiers. It will be fun. bully
      1. +6
        April 8 2020 15: 05
        Are you preparing to sign up for the black rascals or the Cossack that shed the blood of the common people like under the tsar?
        1. -9
          April 8 2020 19: 33
          And count how much blood Nikolashka shed and how many Bolsheviks? Well, which of them is bloody?
          1. +1
            April 8 2020 19: 34
            Nicholas of course and his fans
            1. -8
              April 8 2020 19: 49
              Yes, you teach history! Among the White movement of the monarchists was once or twice and miscalculated. General Alekseev, one of the founders of the movement, was one of those who forced Nikolai to abdicate. For the entire reign of Nikolai Slyunyavy, died in riots and executed by court verdicts 17 total 17 thousand people. On the conscience of the Bolsheviks, hundreds of thousands. And this is without the Civil War.
              1. -1
                April 8 2020 21: 47
                In one hodynka far more than 17 people died, the Lensky execution of a thousand hanged by Stolypin sentences
                1. -4
                  April 8 2020 22: 34
                  Again - learn the story. About 1400 people died on Khodynka, mainly because of their own stupidity: a stampede for a free drink and a snack. And this is not repression. Lensky execution of 1912 - 250 - 300 dead. And there was also the Lensky execution of 1938. There, the Bolsheviks shot four times more than the tsarist authorities in 1912. So, taking into account the events of 1905, 17 thousand were repressed for the entire reign of Nicholas II. And in just a few months of 1918, over 60 thousand were destroyed by the Bolsheviks in Petrograd alone.
                  But, for some reason, "bloody" - Nikolasha. Although compared to Lenin, he is a kitten.
                  1. +3
                    April 9 2020 09: 06
                    Bolsheviks shot as.ivanovs and vadimov wink ...
                    1. +2
                      April 9 2020 12: 46
                      Quote: Popuas
                      Bolsheviks shot as.ivanovs and vadimov wink ...

                      The popoids could also go under the distribution ... one name would be enough - popoats! - continuous counterrevolution, of course to shoot ..
                      1. -4
                        April 9 2020 16: 56
                        A more bloody, cynical regime than the communist one did not exist in history. It would seem all on this.
                        So no, again some are trying to raise this banner soaked in blood.
          2. +1
            April 9 2020 19: 01
            If Tsarek Niki 2 took care of the people, and not shed blood in response to just demands, then he would not have finished in the pit
            1. -2
              April 9 2020 19: 32
              And I thought that Nikolas was pushed by his entourage, the highest generals and the then oligarchy. But it turns out the people, in how. Urgently open a history textbook.
      2. +17
        April 8 2020 15: 10
        The strong support of the people would not allow deputies to preserve real estate abroad.
        The paragraph on real estate quietly disappeared from the amendments.
        1. -11
          April 8 2020 17: 03
          And that - all foreign real estate is now very easily seized by the decision of the local authorities of those countries where this property is purchased and the block is blocked. Happy days for our crooks are over.
          1. +11
            April 8 2020 18: 24
            Vadim, how easy you are! Three trillion dollars were taken abroad by the scoundrels oligarchs! And yes, their bank accounts, real estate and yachts will be arrested - and all this good, which by moral right belongs to our people, will go to a strategic enemy. And what about Putin? He was "persuading"! He tried to persuade the oligarchs to return the money to Russia. And this is the position of the head of state?!? He persuaded ... And when one person, naively believing him, returned the capital to Russia and the investigating authorities immediately began to brutally gut him, Putin stood aside and calmly watched the evisceration process. Yes, his shout would have been enough to stop this shame, but he kept silent. Therefore, only 2016 billion have returned since 15. I can't calm down - three trillion! How would the country flourish even with one in the form of cash. It turns out that he did not insist, did not form laws prohibiting the withdrawal of capital, and did not even persuade - he simply informed that this could be. So the oligarchs themselves knew it. My God, who controls us ...
            1. -1
              April 9 2020 15: 21
              Do you have any documents that the oligarchs withdrew three trillion dollars from Russia - one grandmother said calculations of documents or information from the category - and others retold? I know for sure that from 2000 to 2014, 1,5 trillion dollars were invested in Russia from abroad, let half of this money come from offshore companies but they worked in Russia - there is no money in the vacuum from the whole economy, they are always on the move and everyone uses someone else’s services and goods, even those that were spent inappropriately and all the oligarchs and billionaires of whom 120 pay their taxes locally in Russia and then only withdraw money abroad and pay wages and they produce and buy everything else in Russia since all of them are produced Your factory has stores and enterprises located in Russia. And what kind of law is it that prohibits the withdrawal of capital? I paid further that I do it with my money, and you and the state have no right to indicate me as well as foreign investors in this matter - you can ask but you cannot demand as it is already getting into the management of private business.
              "I can't calm down - three trillion!" Take a pill - and read any media less jaundice.
              1. +2
                April 9 2020 19: 05
                Do you have any documents that from the year 2000 to 2014, 1,5 trillion dollars were invested in Russia from abroad?
      3. +21
        April 8 2020 15: 25
        All these calls "Putin needs our support", we have already heard enough before the presidential elections in Russia in 2018. People came, voted for him, and after a couple of months Putin "thanked" them by raising the retirement age, while also proving that his words cannot be trusted.
        1. +14
          April 8 2020 22: 01
          Quote: tatra
          All these calls "Putin needs our support", we have already heard enough before the presidential elections in Russia in 2018. People came, voted for him, and after a couple of months Putin "thanked" them by raising the retirement age, while also proving that his words cannot be trusted.

          And not yet evening, he again all, as he wants to breed the last suckers.
        2. -5
          April 9 2020 16: 57
          You are local communists, you can not go to what elections. Your 30 people will not affect anything.
          1. +1
            April 9 2020 17: 15
            Only now you are not able to answer, who are YOURS, to whom under this Yeltsin-Putin regime "and now it is better than under the communists"
        3. Aag
          +1
          April 9 2020 22: 12
          "Putin" thanked them "by raising the retirement age" ....
          On the day of the opening of the World Cup. Not a fan, but an event of this level, and even on domestic sites, an event! (At whose expense, in whose interests?).
      4. Aag
        0
        April 9 2020 21: 59
        "A change of government is essentially a sign of a change from a pro-Western course" ...
        Or maybe everything is a little different: “This is our cow, and we will milk it!” And under the guise of national interests.
    4. +20
      April 8 2020 14: 41
      Quote: Ros 56
      the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, but there is almost no time left.

      So he is not Taras Bulba!

      It's a pity to kill mine. do-it-yourself
    5. +4
      April 8 2020 14: 44
      the darkest of which is shy

      Shy?
      Is that subtle humor?
    6. +4
      April 8 2020 14: 58
      We haven’t given him any reason yet, so he is “embarrassed”, Yuri.
    7. -17
      April 8 2020 15: 17
      Quote: Ros 56
      It’s time to put things in order in the country, but it seems to me that the darkest of which is shy and therefore hesitates, and there is almost no time left.

      Putin (the darkest) simply does not want a civil war .. And in general, a war, he knows what it is by his parents and other relatives .. hi
      And the more protesters slander him in the West, the more trust he has in Russia (although there are a lot of questions, etc.) ..
      These are the things in the villages of the province of Russia hi

      That's how we live..))))
      1. -4
        April 8 2020 21: 55
        Putin (the darkest) just doesn't want a civil war

        To many here in VO does not reach.
        Outside here, kneading is planned not for life, but for death, so there was still not enough civil war.
        The West (geldings) really want to provoke a civil war in our country, so especially exalted citizens join in to help them.
        Putin wanted to softly consolidate the country, but it seems he will have to be tough.

        The batch seems to be serious, but China and I are in the same boat.
        The Chinese introduced constitutional amendments to extend the term of Xi Jinping's rule.
        Extension of the term as a guarantee of inviolability for partnership arrangements.
        China wants the same guarantees from us - they trust Putin (one of the "zeroing out" factors) and are extremely interested in Putin's presidency.
        The Anglo-Saxons want to break this alliance, they understand that they will not agree with Putin, and therefore they are hoping for a successor.
        In this situation, we urgently need internal stability and it will be achieved: it will not work out gently, it will be tough.
        Putin (the darkest) just doesn't want a civil war
        1. Aag
          +2
          April 9 2020 22: 26
          "but we are in the same boat with China" ...
          Do not put the Chinese in my boat! They already flooded the whole deck, it is hard to breathe in the hold (Irk. Region.)
          "The Anglo-Saxons want to break this alliance," ...
          Take a look at Wiki, estimate the share of shares of all hydroelectric power stations in the Angara basin, aluminum, a hackneyed topic .... We haven’t looked into the taiga yet (or rather, what is left of it)!
          1. Aag
            +1
            April 9 2020 22: 38
            I don’t want civilization, I don’t want any other! But I don’t need consolidation either. And I don’t need about SCRAPY. There was power earlier, Soyuz. Yes, somewhere drawn, somewhere, even far-fetched, but you are for a strong hand. , - arranged a large part of the population. Yes, and in the world arena in some positions was, if not the first, then in stable leaders.
            ... what is now being bitten ...
      2. +1
        April 9 2020 19: 07
        His trust in Russia almost nullified
    8. -8
      April 8 2020 16: 57
      Hitting the clave and impulsing you are not even in the country, but you will not restore order in your life.
  4. +12
    April 8 2020 14: 16
    It is time for the darkest man to leave. Go away uncle, just go away.
    1. -10
      April 8 2020 14: 30
      And who will take the place of "leave"? Shall we cry?
      1. +12
        April 8 2020 14: 32
        Here you are under my breath, nothing to say. Everything is cleared.
        1. -6
          April 8 2020 14: 40
          We have already thought once: Gorbachev will leave and heal, as in Christ's bosom.
      2. +17
        April 8 2020 14: 53
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        And who will take the place of "leave"? Shall we cry?

        a holy place is never empty. Possess the spell of immortality of a 67-year-old man?
      3. +5
        April 8 2020 14: 56
        The dead don't cry, Andrew. And this threatens the country with this not childishly.
      4. +1
        April 9 2020 19: 08
        Have already cried without "go away"
    2. +18
      April 8 2020 14: 34
      Quote: Lamata
      It's darkest time to leave like a man. Go away uncle, just go away.

      After zeroing does not work. Quite a frivolous procedure. Sandbox Games.
    3. -10
      April 8 2020 14: 37
      Quote: Lamata
      It is time for the darkest man to leave. Go away uncle, just go away.

      And who do you suggest? There are millions of such statements online, but there are no specific individuals to replace, except for anal and K.
      Let's create an alternative, etc. Or just poke, how has long been fashionable in interest? hi
      1. +2
        April 8 2020 14: 42
        I told her, nobody cleaned up. There is no one to offer
        1. -8
          April 8 2020 15: 21
          Quote: Lamata
          I told her, nobody cleaned up. There is no one to offer

          But why is this nagging then all over the world ..?
          Maybe if there is no one, then Russia will self-destruct? How good it will be .. In the whole world, democracy will immediately be established))))
          Or vice versa, under Putin and Russia it was good laughing
          1. -2
            April 8 2020 17: 48
            Propose a candidacy, pliz.
            1. -3
              April 8 2020 20: 10
              Propose a candidacy, pliz.

              Netanyahu bully
              1. +2
                April 9 2020 08: 49
                I warn you, I am anti-Semitic))))) but moderate.
            2. +4
              April 8 2020 22: 27
              Propose a candidacy, pliz.

              Once again I say, the candidacy is any of those who were not afraid to publicly oppose the pension robbery.
      2. +8
        April 8 2020 14: 54
        He voted for Grudinin and will vote for him again if he goes to the polls. And it won’t work, he’s not the only one in the country who deserves to become the President of the Renaissance.
        1. -8
          April 8 2020 15: 03
          The populist Grudinin, an ordinary populist. There is not a single figure who, like Churchill, honestly declared: "I can offer nothing but blood, hard work, tears and sweat." I would believe him.
          1. +6
            April 8 2020 15: 08
            You have mixed up a surname, Andrey. It is written like this - PUTIN.
            And even if they are right, then let him practice on a national scale this "populism" that he arranged in his village.
        2. -4
          April 8 2020 15: 21
          Quote: NordUral
          He voted for Grudinin and will vote for him again if he goes to the polls.

          Hmm, according to Senka and a hat ... feel
          1. +3
            April 8 2020 22: 30
            Have you seen what kind of life Grudinin organized for people at his state farm? I haven’t seen, but you are persecuting lies. The Internet is full of about the Grudininsky state farm.
            1. +3
              April 8 2020 23: 17
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              I haven’t seen, but you are persecuting lies.

              This work. request For the ostentatious lack of alternatives is the same method of manipulation. hi
              1. -2
                April 9 2020 13: 51
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                For the ostentatious lack of alternatives is the same method of manipulation.

                another specialist in special propaganda .... bully
            2. 0
              April 9 2020 13: 50
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              Have you seen

              I don’t need to poke - rude to my wife, if you have .... hi
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              what life did Grudinin organize for his people at his state farm? I haven’t seen, but you are persecuting lies. The Internet is full of about the Grudininsky state farm.

              1) I recommend that you familiarize yourself with how he robbed his collective farmers with the land, and withdrew the money over a hill ... bully
              https://newizv.ru/news/society/13-01-2018/kolhoznik-grudinin-hranit-tsennosti-v-elitarnom-ofshore
              2) "Initially, more than 500 people participated in the privatization of the Lenin State Farm, and now Grudinin himself owns almost half of the shares." Https://rueconomics.ru/299788-kommunisticheskii-oligarh-chem-obernetsya-kprf-avantyura-s- kandidatom-grudininym
              3) maybe you are lying? bully
      3. +21
        April 8 2020 14: 56
        Quote: Mobius
        And who do you suggest?

        let’s look at the debate with Putin’s participation, the strongest will be determined
        Quote: Mobius
        but there are no specific individuals to replace

        so it’s the fault and misfortune of Putin himself, who has been driving a bulldozer in the clearing of competitors for 20 years
    4. +2
      April 8 2020 14: 53
      "A specialist is like a gumboil, his completeness is one-sided." (Kuzma Prutkov).
      EVERYONE BELIEVE. Not to be confused with believers.
      1. ALL budget employees were not paid salaries for six months, and for some for a year.
      2. Emergency services (police, ambulance. Emergency gangs) were given 20 liters of gasoline per car. That is, well, very often they simply could not come to the call.
      3. The war in Chechnya, smoldering conflicts in other regions of the UK.
      4. Endless loans with constant wars of the oligarchs. The mass of showdowns and contract killings.
      5. More than 40% of deviators from military service.
      6. In 2000, the country's gold and foreign exchange reserves amounted to TOTAL 12,5 million dollars.
      7. The natural population decline (up to 500000 per year) was stopped 10 years ago.
      Enough? EVERYTHING it was before the darkest, or what is Putin called there? Everyone who is 50 or more remembers it well!
      1. +5
        April 8 2020 15: 31
        Does it lead to any conclusions?
        1. +9
          April 8 2020 18: 44
          NordUral, I will add. The natural population decline, according to ROSSTAT, for 2019 amounted to 259.6 thousand people. The Central region, the Russian plain, turned out to be especially dying. If necessary, I can give a layout for the regions. It seems that Putin’s apologists, having no worthy arguments in support of him, are turning to outright lies. Apparently, counting on the lack of information of people. So after all, access to data is not closed! Moreover, the government is the government! - was depressed by the current situation with the extinction of the population. Think where the measures to support families come from? We had topics here, we discussed this catastrophe. But here comes a man and with an innocent look declares that Putin’s extinction here, it turns out, stopped 10 years ago ... Just a circus!
          1. +6
            April 8 2020 18: 53
            Good afternoon, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! Be sure to post the data, otherwise there are so many apologists for the indispensability of this and these, and their only true path to the abyss.
            1. +6
              April 8 2020 21: 33
              Yes, that's just part of the table for 2019.
              The natural, mind you, population decline in thousands of people.
              Linen. area - 27.12/XNUMX
              Moscow - 11.93
              Kaliningrad - 3.31
              Kaluga - 11.56
              Belgorod - 16.52
              Voronezh - 35.1
              Samara - 23.41
              Yaroslavskaya - 17.01/XNUMX
              Lipetsk - 15.31
              Kursk - 19.3
              Nizhny Novgorod --40.76
              Ryazan - 18.34
              And so on ...
              The Russian plain is dying. And here fairy tales tell us that the king, as usual, is great and bright. So I managed that, apart from the Tajiks, no one will remain in our original territory.
              1. Aag
                -1
                April 10 2020 00: 24
                Well, you nits, you don’t want to work for a penny no social guarantees. There are no irreplaceable ones (below)! I can’t say this, albeit with a narrow section of the eyes of the children. And the Guarantor may and Must (soft, but confident and tough) .
      2. -5
        April 8 2020 20: 17
        1. ALL budget employees were not paid salaries for six months, and for some for a year.
        2. Emergency services (police, ambulance. Emergency gangs) were given 20 liters of gasoline per car. That is, well, very often they simply could not come to the call.
        3. The war in Chechnya, smoldering conflicts in other regions of the UK.
        4. Endless loans with constant wars of the oligarchs. The mass of showdowns and contract killings.
        5. More than 40% of deviators from military service.
        6. In 2000, the country's gold and foreign exchange reserves amounted to TOTAL 12,5 million dollars.
        7. The natural population decline (up to 500000 per year) was stopped 10 years ago.
        Enough? EVERYTHING it was before the darkest, or what is Putin called there? Everyone who is 50 or more remembers it well!

        All true.
        Only here the audience is special, for them the ideal is Ukraine:
        Kravchuk - get!
        Kuchma is getting!
        Yushchenko - Get!
        Yanukovych - get!
        Poroshenko - get!
        Zelensky - G ...
        bully
    5. -2
      April 8 2020 22: 06
      It is time for the darkest man to leave. Go away uncle, just go away.
      Do not worry.
      According to Kissinger’s forecast in a year, maybe in two Israel will cease to exist. This forecast has a good reason. What do you think?
      1. -3
        April 8 2020 22: 10
        Quote: flicker
        It is time for the darkest man to leave. Go away uncle, just go away.
        Do not worry.
        According to Kissinger’s forecast in a year, maybe in two Israel will cease to exist. This forecast has a good reason.

        There is no hope laughing
        1. -3
          April 8 2020 22: 14
          There is no hope

          I just hope that you stand.
          And you: "do not hope" bully
    6. -2
      April 9 2020 16: 59
      Who decided this? You?
      Just don't say "this is the people."
      People decide differently.
  5. lot
    +4
    April 8 2020 14: 17
    Comp is old. will not pull.
  6. +16
    April 8 2020 14: 17
    Remember the wild capitalism of the 90s? Or another example. Soviet history.

    Remember the movies of that period? All these "Penalties", "Bastards"

    ,, what, what period? Shtrafbat (2004), Bastards (2006).
    Alexander, a bad example.
    1. +5
      April 8 2020 14: 26
      Well, I think "Saboteur" is a decent series.
      1. -2
        April 8 2020 14: 32
        This you tell those who know))))
        1. 0
          April 8 2020 14: 37
          Sorry, I didn’t understand the message ....
          1. -2
            April 8 2020 14: 42
            About a saboteur, he was friendly with comrades from Afghanistan, they only laughed
            1. +2
              April 8 2020 14: 51
              Ah, I got it. Did you communicate with the "deep-seated" or DShBshniks?
              1. -2
                April 8 2020 14: 56
                one reconnaissance commander the second pear
                1. +3
                  April 8 2020 15: 03
                  Well, the pearman could still smile, but the DShB battalion commander was sinful.
                  1. 0
                    April 8 2020 15: 13
                    not a battalion commander of the DShB, but a commander of a military base baht 316 (not a mission) division in Afghanistan. GRUshnik, I’m very interested in what he was doing in Senegal.
                    1. +6
                      April 8 2020 15: 26
                      , I’m very interested in what he did in Senegal.
                      It’s better not to ask such a question.
                      I, about 20 years ago, became interested: in what local conflicts, the second half of the 20th century, did our specialists not participate? I found the answer for myself: in the occupation of Grenada! On that and calmed down.
                      1. 0
                        April 8 2020 17: 50
                        Are you sure that among the Cuban workers our foremen were not))))
                      2. 0
                        April 8 2020 19: 47
                        At first - I think it was not, then - at full height!
      2. +5
        April 8 2020 14: 34
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        Well, I think "Saboteur" is a decent series.

        And I think this film is the best in post-Soviet Russia. This is generally one of my favorite films about the Second World War. Already 10 times watched .. laughing
        1. +2
          April 8 2020 14: 44
          There is also the "Brest Fortress" and, in my opinion, "Panfilov's 28".
          As for the film, I also watched it many times. One of these people taught history at my school, gave us lessons several times, on "substitutions"
          1. +1
            April 8 2020 14: 48
            The fortress is a strong film and 28 Panfilov’s people are good, one phrase - And the Kazakhs, whether they are not Russians or something, a German will come to Kazakhstan, we will show everyone what Kazakhs we are.)))
            1. +2
              April 8 2020 14: 55
              Yes, just for the sake of this phrase it was worth making a film.
      3. +6
        April 8 2020 14: 35
        3x3zsave (Anton) Today, 15: 26

        ,, I would put the Apostle in a row with him.
        1. +2
          April 8 2020 14: 53
          Good film, but too much stretch.
    2. 0
      April 8 2020 14: 39
      Quote: bubalik
      Remember the wild capitalism of the 90s? Or another example. Soviet history.

      Remember the movies of that period? All these "Penalties", "Bastards"

      ,, what, what period? Shtrafbat (2004), Bastards (2006).
      Alexander, a bad example.

      Here they are victims of the Unified State Exam .. By the way, in the State Duma there is already a project on the abolition of this Western dope in training .. It's time to return the Soviet standard of education !!!!
      Well, how can you communicate with them here, if only to shoot .. negative
      1. 0
        April 8 2020 14: 43
        I, a threesome in physics, and I know better than the victims of the exam
      2. +6
        April 8 2020 14: 47
        Here they are victims of the exam
        ,, as far as I remember The author is a former military officer.
        Or are you talking to me? victim of the exam belay laughing
        1. +5
          April 8 2020 23: 21
          Quote: bubalik
          former military officer.

          Former officers do not exist! wink bully
      3. +1
        April 8 2020 15: 38
        And you do not communicate here! Make a man’s act, come to the district school, at the time of the Sabbath of the exam in history, with a light machine gun. And fill all nafig !!!! laughing
        1. +4
          April 8 2020 18: 53
          And fill all nafig !!
          Anton belay you wanted to say ,, fill up ”with your knowledge?
          1. 0
            April 8 2020 20: 02
            No, Sergey. I suggested that the character commit an act that falls under Articles 131 and 150 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, rather than brandishing his own charmed diapers. USE is to blame for him, damn it !!!
        2. +2
          April 8 2020 19: 26
          And at an interview with lawyers I asked one question, what is the right of ownership, rained down, If I, my favorite civil law teacher would ask and I would not answer, scribe, it would be a disgrace
    3. +3
      April 8 2020 14: 47
      Here are the films "Gu-ha" (1989), also about the penal battalion. But with "Penal Battalion" can not be compared. Apparently in 89 there were still people who remembered how it was. Well, "Bastards" is generally a schizophrenic delusion.
      1. +3
        April 8 2020 14: 57
        Penalty in general, mmm, beautiful, but stupid.
  7. +3
    April 8 2020 14: 20
    Land, 20 acres (2000 sq.m. (two thousand square meters)) - to each adult Citizen. Muscovite - in MOSCOW. A resident of St. Petersburg - in PETERSBURG. Etc. Land, in the amount of 1 (one) piece, With the possibility of exchange for other cities. For the construction of a house and the arrangement of gardening ... WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications. WITHOUT communications.
    i.e. NOT in -kukuevo.
    For a Russian business of all calibers, this will be the least evil ...
    1. -4
      April 8 2020 14: 29
      Your record sticks. Wipe the cartridge. At least with alcohol.
      1. +7
        April 8 2020 14: 33
        Yes, and you are not far behind
      2. +9
        April 8 2020 14: 33
        Alcohol !!! What are you !!! Alcohol only eat.
  8. +28
    April 8 2020 14: 20
    Horses do not change at the crossing!

    Yeah. We’ve been listening to this mantra for 20 years. And don’t rock the boat yet, you like in Ukraine, who if not him, there’s no money but you hold on, treat with understanding, etc. etc. I’m tired of it. And you have to go to the polls, I don’t understand those who don’t go. With your failed votes, you will have pension reforms, gasoline prices and all that sort of thing ..
    1. +3
      April 8 2020 14: 33
      What to take from a person who has sworn an oath.
  9. +14
    April 8 2020 14: 20
    Will the new operating system fit the old hardware?
    1. +19
      April 8 2020 14: 38
      Quote: Hagalaz
      Will the new operating system fit the old hardware?

      try it, but it's clear that it won't boot, there will be a "blue screen of death"
      1. 0
        April 8 2020 14: 57
        Once upon a time, in the old issue of the magazine "Behind the Wheel" under the heading of questions and answers, I read: the question was asked (not literally), is it possible to put a certain part from a certain model of one car on another of the same brand. To which the answer was given that it was possible to bet, but it would not work.
        So do not even offer, I will not try.
    2. -5
      April 8 2020 14: 44
      The main driver for the old iron pick up.
      1. +2
        April 8 2020 14: 50
        Are you talking about magic pendal?
      2. -3
        April 8 2020 14: 52
        No, I'm talking about professionals - professionals. Iron can also crumble from a kick. Thirty years ago it happened.
      3. +13
        April 8 2020 14: 57
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        The main driver for the old iron pick up.

        put the old memory and disk on the cable and forward to the future laughing
    3. +1
      April 8 2020 14: 57
      Iron upgrade? wink
    4. +1
      April 8 2020 15: 46
      Sooner or later, it will have to be installed. But the later the iron will age.
  10. +5
    April 8 2020 14: 21
    It’s just that in one cart two horses from different sides were harnessed to meet one another, and therefore it comes out — a step forward, two back, three to the side!
    1. +3
      April 8 2020 14: 52
      No, thrifty, these horses have a well-coordinated team. Only she jumps off to the side, which is useful to Russia and us, her people.
  11. +9
    April 8 2020 14: 22
    Something strange is happening in the world. Humanity ceases to believe. The pandemic has become a litmus test, which shows precisely this attitude of the majority towards specialists, towards analysts, towards governments. Ordinary people, repeatedly deceived and "used", began to be skeptical of everything that is said, written or inspired by the TV.

    Human distrust began from the moment when something completely ceased to depend on these simplest people.
    1. -1
      April 8 2020 14: 48
      as if once something depended on us) 17 year old women and half of the country with their convictions were left behind. 91 year old women and the same thing. we can’t stand another babakh.
      1. +3
        April 8 2020 14: 50
        Quote: carstorm 11
        as if once something depended on us) 17 year old women and half of the country with their convictions were left behind. 91 year old women and the same thing. we can’t stand another babakh.

        Many still firmly believe that in the elections they choose something there.
        1. -8
          April 8 2020 14: 55
          In the local elections they just choose. There are even more dirty tricks from local authorities than from the supreme.
          1. +2
            April 8 2020 14: 57
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            In the local elections they just choose.

            Yeah ... and after reading the news, the mayor of some town of Tmytarakan was detained, due to exorbitant hairy paws and boundless love for banknotes. And then the people chose his type.
            1. -1
              April 8 2020 14: 59
              He was "chosen" by those who did not show up for the elections. Have you seen the turnout of citizens in local elections?
              1. +1
                April 8 2020 15: 03
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                He was "chosen" by those who did not show up for the elections. Have you seen the turnout of citizens in local elections?

                And so everywhere ... it’s easier to throw everything away, and not to think that nepotism, protestation, PR campaigns and stupidly promises that only stupid and paralytic believes in at the initial stage are trends today.
                1. -3
                  April 8 2020 15: 14
                  In my small homeland, they chose the same prokhendey, about whom the whole village knew that it was a prokhendey. They chose without appearing at the polls. In local elections, it’s difficult to manipulate anything. Yes, and in elections of the highest order, with one hundred percent turnout, you can cheat 10-20 percent, but it will not work anymore.
        2. -4
          April 8 2020 15: 02
          at least by choosing you can say that you did what you could. I generally ignoring the elections completely tell myself that I do not care who will be in power. and this is my decision)
          1. 0
            April 8 2020 15: 08
            Quote: carstorm 11
            at least by choosing you can say that you did what you could. I generally ignoring the elections completely tell myself that I do not care who will be in power. and this is my decision)

            Each time, I am more and more inclined to the idea that the socialist system or the capitalist or feudal system are all models of the incorrect construction of society. Since they always have the rich and the poor, wars, ambitions, etc. We chose EBN, has it become easier? We chose the tagged? Become happier?
            1. -4
              April 8 2020 15: 27
              Man is imperfect and everything created by him too. Well this is a philosophy. Until we have a normal civil society, we will deserve the government that we deserve for our indifference. In other words, there is always a shepherd for the herd. And in the pack, (the pack is a collective) - there is a leader.
            2. -4
              April 8 2020 15: 33
              exactly. there is no panacea. there are simply strong and weak.
              1. +4
                April 8 2020 19: 01
                Pilot Ivanov, support!
                But how to create it - civil society? Dog lovers and cat people unite with impunity. But as soon as normal people try to unite with an acceptable political program, they are immediately being defamed, attributing terrorist concerns, being seized, judged, etc. The opposition, fed up by the authorities, crawls out to the rallies, portraying discontent at showing the whole world - a showcase of democracy. And the people ... The people, by the way, understand who is who. The boiler boils softly.
    2. +7
      April 8 2020 14: 50
      Human distrust began from the moment when something completely ceased to depend on these simplest people.

      Nothing really depends on those who sit in the bushes.
  12. +3
    April 8 2020 14: 23
    There is no way for the country to change the leader, for haggy people are climbing to power from politics and hypocrites, and those who usurped power will not allow a specialist, especially in the field of economics, to power!
    1. +5
      April 8 2020 14: 48
      We will not vote for alternatives, for example, for Grudin (he actually showed how a country can live), so there will be grabber and thieves in power. I agree that not everyone likes him, but why not try to live with him, where is he the President, and not the guarantor of the dumping to nowhere, tired of us. At least once try than whining after the elections, they say, I did not know that the "guarantor" is such a bad guy.
      1. -8
        April 8 2020 15: 03
        what did he show sorry? how can a country live? on what example? What are you about ?))))
        1. +3
          April 8 2020 15: 10
          He did not show, he made his village.
          1. -5
            April 8 2020 15: 37
            Mon Colonel)))) This is not an example, but simply an indicator of work at its level. I have seen dozens of times how people who know how to command a company well completely messed up commanding a battalion. it is figurative but the meaning shows in full. and if you don’t go into details like losing trials to your own shareholders and going to the radio for freedom to give interviews.
            1. +4
              April 8 2020 16: 55
              And the level of the club?
              PS I went to the pharmacy (Peter, by the way) and inspired the view of the streets: night, street, street lamp, pharmacy ....... everything will be like that, there’s no outcome ...
              1. -7
                April 8 2020 17: 45
                you know, sometimes I don’t understand people ... and what they say. I told you openly that it does not matter who this person is if he does his job well. I want to know why you think that this is enough to lead the state?
                1. +6
                  April 8 2020 18: 03
                  My life experience tells me this. Yes, he is not alone, but in a team of people competent for governing the country.
                  And the counter-question - why do you think that he will not be able to successfully lead the country, Dmitry?
                  1. -3
                    April 8 2020 22: 31
                    country may be. There is no Russia. he does not understand her. he goes to radio freedom and gives an interview there. just one stupid step like that says it all. next step will be a speech in the US Congress? his own printed organ all the same. he just did not understand that in Russia, first of all, you need to be your own
                    1. +1
                      April 8 2020 22: 43
                      On this "freedom" who only does not flutter his tongue. And Grudinin was blocked, except for YouTube. So he tried to expand the reach of listeners. It may be a mistake, but the enemy must be used for the good of the cause.
    2. +13
      April 8 2020 14: 49
      Quote: Thrifty
      The country does not have the opportunity to change the leader, for power haggy climb from politics and hypocrites

      What is going on! Horror!!! Who is this allowed?

      If you leave everything as it is, without a change of leader, then they will climb to power hanygi from politics and hypocrites.
  13. +15
    April 8 2020 14: 30
    The current coachman has been crossing for twenty years, and the end of the crossing is not even visible.
    And to stop scratching your tongue - this is again to him, to the one who does not change. Neither at the crossing, nor where.
    And we ... I think the majority of the people, (including those on the site) honestly do their job, who are doctors, who are engineers, who are workers, and have every right to express their opinion on horses, crossings, bridges. Whatever it is.
    1. +6
      April 8 2020 14: 44
      The current coachman has been crossing for twenty years, and the end of the crossing is not even visible.

      not across, but along the river smile
      And also the sea will be somewhere ....
      1. +4
        April 8 2020 15: 05
        Ah, yes, and somewhere in the fog the galley still looms))
  14. +27
    April 8 2020 14: 37
    And for your age, "carts" and "bridges" are enough.

    Unfortunately, and cones too.
    If we recall the lessons of botany about the process of formation of the swamp, then we now have a swamp. The fontanels were flooded with concrete, the banks were again flooded with them, and the power was behind a large concrete wall on which the armed guard. And so they lived: the elite behind the wall, the people under the wall.
    It is not necessary to change the operating system, it is necessary to demolish the concrete wall between the people and the authorities. And the matter is not in personalities, but in this very wall.
    A simple example: a country suffocates without medical equipment, the virus mows thousands, there isn’t that, and Sobyanin concluded the largest contract for the purchase of concrete borders totaling 3,2 billion rubles. Earlier, Moskovskaya Gazeta wrote that tenders were held in the capital for the purchase of “concrete products” totaling about 6,8 billion rubles.
    And the order is received by the only participant in the competition - the trustee of Putin and Sobyanin request
    Well, it seems we live in different countries
    1. +4
      April 8 2020 14: 44
      We have been swimming for a long time.
    2. +4
      April 8 2020 14: 53
      ,,, yes there is already another tender for 12 lard Yes
    3. +1
      April 8 2020 15: 07
      It’s necessary to transfer the capital!
      For example, to Siberia! To rebuild a city, infrastructure from scratch, nearby villages with servants, to shove all the embassies there. It is a closed city, office housing, public transport, except that the President is allowed to move around on office. Service housing according to the position held, furnished. Well, like in the garrison. But everything is under supervision. Some character flew in with a box of money: Why, to whom, for what? The construction and maintenance of such a "ZATO" will probably be cheaper for the budget.
      Officials will stick around, but bureaucratic service is for the good of the State! Let them endure the "hardships" bravely! wink
      1. +1
        April 9 2020 15: 24
        Yes, not a problem - prepare a dozen trillions of rubles, the transfer of the capital will be exclusively at your expense.
        1. -2
          April 9 2020 16: 12
          Calculate not only the direct costs of maintaining all power in Moscow, but also indirect ones. Everything will be compact, everything is under control. Espionage will become difficult to implement, bribes in Stolitsa are unlikely, clerks ride public transport, buy food from one source, cook and feed the same, all government officials are equal or so.
          All the same, due to the budget are provided. But: a minimum of temptations, a maximum of time to think about Russia!
          And for the money, an example is the Vostochny spaceport. No spaceport, no money.
          The question is not money, the question is desire.
    4. +3
      April 8 2020 18: 22
      laughing Well, such a tradition among Moscow mayors. One SU-155 was produced, the next two times a year it changes tiles and borders ... Rejoice. In our house, after 40-50 years of operation, we began to plaster and paint only when Putin arrived. My truth on age has not yet passed. Only 54 years old at home ... It still stands a couple of decades. No bars live I guess
  15. +7
    April 8 2020 14: 40
    The situation with the coronavirus has clearly shown that the authorities in our country are: a) incapacitated, b) the authorities are only interested in themselves and the citizens are only food for them, c) the authorities in our country, instead of caring for citizens, are engaged in self-promotion - they provide humanitarian aid to those to whom they are need not; "wins" in the foreign policy field (so much so that the price of oil from the comfortable 62 flies at $ 25 brent). It is clear that in this situation, none of us has a normal future, the country lives in a mode of survival or pressure. Foreign political "victories" are becoming more and more magnificent every day - since the beginning of the year our elite has successfully "defeated" Lukashenko, Erdogan and Crown Prince Ben-Salman. Another such "victory" and the country will be washed off the map of the world. In the economy, too, "victory" after "victory" is the result on the display of the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar.
    1. -6
      April 8 2020 15: 39
      Quote: Altona
      The situation with coronavirus clearly showed

      that you don’t know how to read, or are reading the State Department manual ... request look at EU or US countries for comparison ... feel
      Quote: Altona
      provides humanitarian assistance to those who do not need it

      Seriously ? someone refused? you. by the way about whom, about Serbia?

      Quote: Altona
      It is clear that in this situation, none of us has a normal future, the country lives in a survival or squeeze regime

      for sure - maidanoid ... bully

      Quote: Altona
      Another such "victory" and the country will be washed off the map of the world.

      if about Ukraine, then that's for sure ...
      Quote: Altona
      result on the scoreboard of the ruble to dollar exchange rate.

      75,5 is not a reason to panic ... hi
      1. -1
        April 9 2020 09: 46
        But essentially there is something to answer in addition to dimagogy points?
  16. -3
    April 8 2020 14: 41
    Alexander, you have raised an interesting problem, the problem of management.
    But the root of the problem is not in the field of management but in the field of information.
    Let's not write about the government, neither you nor I know who they are actually listening to.
    Take VO. It’s not obvious to you that instead of specialists in military equipment or senior employees of the military-industrial complex, and just specialists came people who simply express their dissatisfaction with the authorities or the United States or the Jews, well, at best describe their political or historical views, people are neither politicians nor historians.
    List NIKi? Yes, they are in any topic on the first page. Look Stakhanovite offended (he admitted) - a fuss. Perhaps I can already write a bot that no one will distinguish it from a squabble.
    Such came to VO and all where now is the MILITARY review? And the administration in the mustache is not blowing. Well, there are still a dozen enthusiasts who are interesting to read. But the rest come not to read, but to write.
    Do you understand? Exactly how you write, they don’t listen - they say they are not even interested in listening to anyone. THEY JUST SPEAK.
    Well, if those are at VO, why shouldn't they be at the academy on television in the government?
    So everywhere dull and merciless information noise is pouring out, drowning out a useful signal.

    What is the way out of this?
    Well, I see two.
    We ourselves will learn how to filter this stream and begin to ignore messages that do not contain information.
    The authorities will do this for us in the broadest sense (from GDP to the direct employer).
    For me, both are good.
    1. +4
      April 8 2020 14: 54
      Quote: bk316
      It’s not obvious to you that instead of specialists in military equipment or senior employees of the military-industrial complex, people just came for specialists

      -------------------------
      Well, in our military-industrial complex, apparently, there are also specialists, you can even list the names - Dmitry Rogozin (journalist), Serdyukov (furniture dealer). In the fuel and energy complex - Igor Ivanovich Sechin (translator and philologist). We go further, just as recently there is news about the modernized Tu-160. And what do we see? The Soviet groundwork is taken and customized. But what about a new one from scratch? Uuu, the technology is lost. And so in everything, up to the "hypersound", where the Soviet still "Stiletto" produced in 1985 goes to launch these gliders. And people like you come and start "yes, everything is nishtyak, there are offended here, they interfere, you understand."
      PS Let's discuss the technique, only a new one, and not customizing the old one.
      1. -3
        April 8 2020 15: 35
        Does such a technique exist in nature? By what criteria do you determine that a technique is new? In ancient times, ships were invented, tanks, planes in the early 20th century, small arms even earlier. Why the Russian Federation should not use the Soviet reserve ??? Nothing in this world is created from scratch.
        1. +4
          April 8 2020 15: 41
          Quote: gvozdan
          Nothing in this world is created from scratch.

          ----------------------
          We no longer build airplanes from scratch, which are called "strategic bomber", that is, we import material and make completely new ones. This is what we are talking about. We take an old physically glider and modernize it. In this world, a lot is created from scratch in terms of manufacturing and manufacturing, including your boots. You are not constantly fixing old ones.
          Ps By the way, what is produced from scratch is also small in number. Small ships have been sailing for years, the same "calibers" must be produced for a year for one salvo of two frigates.
          1. -2
            April 9 2020 17: 04
            About the number of "Calibers". Information from the bowels of the Ministry of Defense? From a trusted source?
            No, from the Internet. From the same fighters with cutting.
            This is what they write to you about.
            But you certainly will not hear.
      2. -6
        April 8 2020 15: 42
        Quote: Altona
        Let's discuss a technique, only a new one,

        Armata, Kurganets or Su-57? Tell them few? ONLY - everything is according to the training manual of the State Department ... hi
        you burned with zeal ... request
        1. +8
          April 8 2020 17: 13
          Quote: ser56
          Armata, Kurganets or Su-57? Tell them few? ONLY - everything is according to the training manual of the State Department ...

          ----------------------------------------
          Yes, yes ... They are already mass-produced in our country, and a certain Borisov, Deputy Prime Minister, by the way, just recently said that all this is excessive for the budget, the T-72B3 and Su-27 in different versions will be enough. Do not feed people like you, just let them reset something. And then run to Trump, "Trumpushka, help, protect from Saudi oil, save from sanctions, take it under your wing." So, write according to the manual of the "evening M", write on. And by the way, you can be proud of the fact that our average warship has a tonnage of 5000 tons, and the oligarch's yacht is 12000 tons. Where do you get such people? It's even funny ... armata, Kurgan ... laughing laughing
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          2. 0
            April 9 2020 15: 28
            Borisov said a lot of things - the mass production of the Su 57 launched the installation batch of T 14, too, but the tests continue. And you do not make yourself the tago of the evening M in a cube, otherwise it is very similar.
            1. -3
              April 9 2020 17: 05
              So he is one of those about whom you write. He comes here to shout against the authorities.
              Brains apparently do not have enough to understand that if this power collapses, it will most likely be crushed as well.
              Or maybe he’s trying for the money, whoever is there, the Opposition officer will take apart.
              Yes, and to understand the grades it is known that a decent person does not need.
      3. -1
        April 8 2020 18: 38
        Let's discuss a technique, only a new one, not customizing the old one.

        Double offer KasperskyOS.
        Or are you more interested in Rogozin? am
      4. 0
        April 9 2020 01: 52
        Well, what will Eugene discuss? laughing
    2. +10
      April 8 2020 15: 12
      Take VO. It’s not obvious to you that instead of specialists in military equipment or senior employees of the military-industrial complex, and just specialists came people who simply express their dissatisfaction with the authorities

      It would be strange if, in an article about power, a commentator would talk about the military-industrial complex ..
      Well, at best, they describe their political or historical views, people are neither politicians nor historians.

      And who are you, a historian, a politician? This is too narrow a platform for specialists .. The opinion of the population of the country, an ordinary layman, is expressed differently here ..
      Quote: bk316
      Look Stakhanovite offended (he admitted) - a fuss.

      What have I confessed to you? laughing Pass by my comments if they hurt you .. But for me it is strange .. winked
      Well, there are still a dozen enthusiasts who are interesting to read

      So read this ten .. but for some reason Svarog is interesting to you .. masochism? in general, if there are a dozen commentators on VO, then VO will not be popular ..
      Do you understand? Exactly how you write, they don’t listen - they say they are not even interested in listening to anyone. THEY JUST SPEAK.

      Of course it’s interesting, for me personally, the comments themselves are often more interesting than the articles .. and a lot of sensible commentators on VO ..
      So everywhere dull and merciless information noise is pouring out, drowning out a useful signal.

      So voice these useful signals .. instead of blaming .. They just don’t want to hear and annoy you .. but don’t want to hear, because the signals that you send are not perceived by the majority .. people open their eyes .. and then more..
      What is the way out of this?
      Well, I see two.
      We ourselves will learn how to filter this stream and begin to ignore messages that do not contain information.

      So start with yourself .. otherwise you mention me through a comment .. just ignore .. but you don’t like that they started to ignore you and this is the problem ..
      The authorities will do this for us in the broadest sense (from GDP to the direct employer).

      The capitalist dictatorship is slavery .. Do you long for this?
      1. -4
        April 8 2020 16: 16
        Any dictatorship is slavery. Communist is no exception.
        1. +4
          April 8 2020 16: 18
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Any dictatorship is slavery. Communist is no exception.

          Did you feel like a slave in the USSR? Me not. Because the dictatorship of the proletariat was.
          1. -3
            April 8 2020 16: 43
            More precisely, the dictatorship of the CPSU. Professional party officials had nothing to do with the proletariat. But it is worth recognizing that now I feel much freer - there are no masses of awkward prohibitions.
            1. -2
              April 8 2020 17: 31
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              But it is worth recognizing that now I feel much freer - there are no masses of awkward prohibitions.

              1) seriously? and what is forbidden to you now - do not share? hi
              2) But I was annoyed in the USSR by the need to consist of the Komsomol, the CPSU, the trade union, to sit there at meetings and political education, to write newspapers according to the order of the newspaper, to receive recommendations and specifications, a ban on reading what is interesting or going abroad at will, etc.,
              1. -3
                April 8 2020 17: 48
                I write that NOW I am much freer. And on the second point, I completely agree with you. And add the third point:
                I could not have more than 1 apartment in the USSR, even if the second is for children.
                I could not have 2 or more cars in the family. Although my wife works outside the city, my business is in another area. Although what am I talking about: I couldn’t have my own business, for this article shone.
                I could not build a capital house on my summer cottage - only a summer one, and no more than a certain size, despite the number of children.
                I was bothered by the plus to what you said that they practically dictated to me what music to listen to, what films to watch and what clothes to wear. What a dog deal!
                1. -4
                  April 8 2020 18: 25
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  I write that NOW I am much freer.

                  Sorry - I didn’t read it correctly and understood .... feel
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  I could not have more in the USSR

                  this is true and can be repeated indefinitely .... request
                  could not buy an apartment in the South for recreation ...
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  What a dog deal!

                  I agree, but this is commonplace - it was necessary to control everything so that people could not find out and compare - how stupidly SV manages resources and robs Russia ... hi
          2. -2
            April 8 2020 17: 28
            Quote: Svarog
            because the dictatorship of the proletariat was.

            since 1977 - a nation-wide state - study ... request
            1. -1
              April 8 2020 17: 49
              They forgot to put quotes on the word "nationwide"
              This common people sat on the Old Square in Moscow.
              1. -3
                April 8 2020 18: 52
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                This common people sat on the Old Square in Moscow.

                no need to simplify - a feudal system was created - with feudal lords (district, region, republic), its type of clergy - ideologists of the CPSU, its inquisition and finally the emperor - uniting political and spiritual power ... request
                1. -3
                  April 8 2020 20: 51
                  Forgot to mention religion. Supreme deity, saints of all stripes, mantras, praise, temples, icons. Rites and dogmas.
                  1. -2
                    April 8 2020 20: 53
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    Forgot to mention religion

                    and now you are not careful request
                    Quote: ser56
                    their type ministers of kul
                    1. -3
                      April 8 2020 20: 55
                      Ministers are ministers, and religion was built orderly. Even the analogue of the kingdom of God is not forgotten. When everyone needs it.
                      1. 0
                        April 9 2020 13: 45
                        Quote: AS Ivanov.
                        and religion was built harmonious.

                        it was not in vain that the IVS studied at the seminary - so the pro worked ... request
      2. -1
        April 8 2020 18: 48
        It would be strange if, in an article about power, a commentator would talk about the military-industrial complex ..

        The article is not about power. About management and information. And for you, everything about power ....
        It would be strange if, in an article about power, a commentator would talk about the military-industrial complex ..

        A article about launching a rocket must remember Rogozin? Are you a rocket engineer?
        And in the forecasts for coronavirus about the collapse of medicine? You are a doctor?
        And in the article on scientific achievements is necessarily about the exam? Are you a teacher?

        that they began to ignore you and this is the problem ..

        Not at all. I don't like the drop in discussion level. to the level of ehamatsi.
        For example, ALL that I wrote about coronavirus is justified and confirmed by scientific facts. I am rather scrupulous about this topic. And I was thanked for that. BUT a lot of people just did not find it difficult to read (although I set out at the high school level), because as I wrote it is interesting for them not to read but to write. I don’t care about that (I don’t let such people in my life), I’m worried that there are less and less interesting articles and comments on VO.
        So read this ten ..

        So I read, but there are fewer and fewer such people ... because of you.
        1. +9
          April 8 2020 19: 54
          A article about launching a rocket must remember Rogozin? Are you a rocket engineer?

          So Rogozin is not a rocket engineer .. and not even a manager .. HE is a journalist who screwed up and is clearly not in his place ..
          And in the forecasts for coronavirus about the collapse of medicine? You are a doctor?

          I use the "services" of doctors and I am not satisfied with the quality and price of these services .. so why should I be silent?
          And in the article on scientific achievements is necessarily about the exam? Are you a teacher?

          I have children .. and all that you list are urgent problems that voicing is the duty of a citizen .. and singing psalms is to you in church ..
          So I read, but there are fewer and fewer such people ... because of you.

          So the culprit appointed laughing This is why because of me or because of us .. I express my point of view and, as a rule, about life inside the country .. it excites me and does not affect the alternative point of view, well, if only by comment .. You are very strange ..
          The fact that VO is a unique resource, here I agree with you completely, but the resource must be developed and VO do it and do it right, articles on politics are about 30 percent of the total and they should be because politics affects all spheres of life, including MIC ..
    3. +2
      April 8 2020 18: 36
      Hello Vladimir. I agree in you in many ways. Indeed, the resource has changed quite a bit since its inception. It is in that aspect that you are talking about. Naturally, a popular resource attracts quite a few random people, not specialists, and even those who are little interested in military issues in the broad sense of the word.
      But ... You probably remember the series of articles on Lend-Lease, which was published in the past and the year before last, remember the materials on armored trains, aircraft, ships. Remember how many specialists gathered there and are gathering today. I remember how they carried me with their physiognomy in some articles for the slightest inaccuracy.
      For other colleagues, it is really important to express your point of view. For some, this is just a job. It seems to me that knowing the enemy is necessary in the same way as knowing your own positions. Everyone has the right to express their opinion on the issues raised in the articles. For this, the site rules exist. And there are moderators for fans to troll. Periodically clean up the resource
      1. +1
        April 8 2020 18: 57
        Naturally, a popular resource attracts quite a lot of random people,

        I understand, it's just a shame.
        Indeed, if not unique, then a very rare thing.
        Well, yes, I attend professional forums of virologist nuclear experts and, of course, programmers, but also fishing laughing
        And here in ONE place so many different and interesting people gathered, it's a shame when they leave.
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  17. +6
    April 8 2020 14: 43
    What did you want to say, Alexander Staver? I understood only one thing, that we are still being "charged" and "horses" at the crossing are not changed.
    About the system - nothing!
    1. 0
      April 8 2020 18: 40
      Not a medic. and not a teacher. I will not treat and teach. Not understood? Well, okay. The main thing is not to be nervous. I also don’t understand anything in some matters ... You will drink Valerianochka and everything goes away. Calm, only calm. Everything else is nonsense, a matter of everyday life.
      1. +1
        April 8 2020 18: 50
        I agree, the main process. Good luck
  18. +7
    April 8 2020 14: 50

    The ambiguous statement of the author of the article.
    ... one is enough. But one who will know which coast him need to get over.

    First, it is advisable for the "coachman" to ask the passengers where they need to, and not him.
    Secondly, if the "coachman" took the place of the ferryman, then do not expect good. A team of specialists should work.
    1. -1
      April 8 2020 18: 42
      Quote: Caretaker
      The ambiguous statement of the author of the article.

      And the middle of the article seems to be read and not necessary?
      1. 0
        April 8 2020 19: 37
        Quote: domokl
        Quote: Caretaker
        The ambiguous statement of the author of the article.
        ... one is enough. But one who will know which coast him need to get over.

        First, it is advisable for the "coachman" to ask the passengers where they need to, and not him.
        Secondly, if the "coachman" took the place of the ferryman, then do not expect good. A team of specialists should work.

        And the middle of the article seems to be read and not necessary?
        Suggest quoting sections?

        The beginning, middle, and most of the "ending" are all about what not to do.
        The post in question comments on the author’s conclusion
        Constructive proposals in the article are not formulated.
  19. +2
    April 8 2020 14: 56
    They don’t change Charon at the crossing, and there is no one to replace him.
  20. +3
    April 8 2020 15: 04
    Yes, the author is right, you only need to listen to "Kiselev-Soloviev TV" and work, work for a bowl of stew and "do not complain" and then we will live ... yes, we will "live" .... Yes
  21. AB
    0
    April 8 2020 15: 13
    Need to change the "operating system" of society

    I spoke about this back in 1991 ...
    1. +1
      April 8 2020 15: 42
      Well, they changed it in 1991. And instead of "reds" the "operating system" of society began to be defined by "whites." What the system, power, ideology will be in the country is determined not by the entire people, but only by those who own the country. And it does not matter at all, which of the "whites" will be instead of Putin, there will still be power of the same quality, the same system with a huge gap in the income of the people, the same evil and cowardly ideology "but we have nothing to do with it, these are all communists, to blame "," everything was bad in the USSR ".
      1. AB
        0
        April 8 2020 15: 46
        No, I offered this new OS Reset, and then Reboot and a return to the updated USSR.
        1. -2
          April 8 2020 16: 15
          The USSR has already crashed into a blue screen or in kernel panic,
    2. +1
      April 8 2020 15: 45
      Well, what kind then and now do you offer?
    3. 0
      April 8 2020 18: 56
      Alexey! Duck it was then that everything changed to this merde.
  22. +2
    April 8 2020 15: 15
    "One is enough." request for dictatorship? bully
  23. +1
    April 8 2020 15: 26
    An adult is responsible for his life and his family. And infantile kids always blame someone for all their troubles.
    1. +2
      April 8 2020 19: 00
      Are you talking about the power of "our", Viktor Yuryevich? These people always have the West, but the wrong people are to blame, and now viruses are already hindering them (or maybe they help, that's the question what?).
  24. 0
    April 8 2020 15: 29
    "Today, part of the world's population does not believe in the forecasts of specialists more than in the predictions of various seers, oracles, shamans, psychics and other people not of this world."
    but the author believes polls! bully
    usually everyone knows and offers simple solutions to solve complex problems (such as managing the country), people who have not really done anything in life, have not achieved it - therefore everything seems simple and obvious to them ... request
    alas, but let them go to power - everyone will fall apart, and then they will be justified by the fact that they wanted the best - examples in the history of our country are dark - from the Bolsheviks to Gabriel Popov or Zelensky request
  25. -3
    April 8 2020 15: 36
    Enough already whining and authors and readers.
  26. 0
    April 8 2020 15: 43
    The prologue is certainly correct. And it is written beautifully. Only about anything. Mass media, especially those controlled by the state, conduct informational work quite clearly.
    And the government does not shy away.
    It has a clear line for self-isolation of the population, development of a vaccine, subsidizing of business, organization of medical assistance, etc. Where the author saw the floundering is not clear.
    Well, experts ... They have disputes in an incomprehensible situation a natural thing. And it is all over the world, and not just in Russia.
    It is in disputes that truth is born, as you know.
    So here. The author made a beautiful, detailed preamble. So you wait at the end of the same beautiful and concrete conclusion-proposal.
    But his ... no. The author was blown away?
    1. 0
      April 8 2020 18: 45
      Quote: ezdiumno ru
      But his ... no. The author was blown away?

      No really. I brought bread, I put it on the table, chewed it and put it in your mouth. Then we ourselves ... Again, "my hut is on the edge", "I didn't offer it"?
  27. +2
    April 8 2020 15: 48
    . Moreover, any forecast is perceived exactly the opposite. They started talking about stabilization of the economy - wait for some trick in this very economy.

    So we have already adapted to listen "between the lines", to determine when there is a hidden opinion poll, when the shitty things "start to sing songs about stability."
    You can recall the information flow a year before raising the retirement age. There, officials sang through one thing: some that did not raise the retirement age, others that needed to be raised.
  28. +1
    April 8 2020 16: 22
    I seem to have found the answer. It's all about horses! Too fond of harnessing these poor animals to the cart. And from different sides ..

    Unsuccessful author's allegory.
    Harnessing a horse in a cart is possible only on one side - where are the shafts Yes
    1. +4
      April 8 2020 18: 46
      Quote: Rich
      Unsuccessful author's allegory.

      Your cart is not modernized .. On our shafts stick out in all directions. Depending on where the coachman sits
      1. +1
        April 8 2020 20: 14
        On our shafts stick out in all directions. Depending on where the coachman sits

        I understood this, for which I put article +. I liked her. And about the shafts, as a rural man specified. By the way, Alexander, coachmen do not ride carts - they consider their dignity below their dignity - their destiny is carriages, but spans wink
        1. -2
          April 9 2020 17: 19
          Red cart? Yes, it is just that - the shafts are rearranged on the go. As the coachman has changed, so he puts shafts. The boards are already rotten, the wheels are hanging out - and they are busy - back and forth they shuffle the shafts. People are pulling it here and there. he doesn’t care where, people, they would give.
          And above all this the slogan is "Forward to a bright future."
  29. +3
    April 8 2020 16: 28
    Some common words.
    If you got into cards with swindlers, the result is clear.
    1) You can recall how there were 120% of the votes in the election, and how, without hiding with impunity, the packets were thrown into the ballot box ..... you can at least manage to vote ...
    2) And remember the popular independent presidential candidates - the doctor and the general .... recall what they ended up with?

    "One is enough. But the one who will know which bank he needs to cross. And everyone else just stop fluttering their tongues in order to tell everyone how you personally were" for "in case of victory or" against "in case of failure. your age of "carts" and "bridges" is enough. "

    Is it Putin's life-long presidency ?, and the rest in an eternal ban?
    IMHO, as they did not try, but no one without revolutions succeeded ...
    1. -2
      April 8 2020 17: 15
      Indecisive and poor losers a priori cannot make any revolutions - now even the strong and courageous hell that the authorities will make all such attempts will stop in the bud.
    2. -1
      April 9 2020 17: 20
      Well, try it. What is the problem? Is there no suitable leader?
      Communists without a leader - that donkey without carrots.
  30. +1
    April 8 2020 17: 31
    "And do not have ten coachmen on one cart. One is enough. But the one who will know which coast he needs to cross."

    And if the coachman no longer knows the road along which to lead the cart with the horse, and does not want to leave his coachman's position, arguing that he has been appointed to this position by "honor", which means he will be on it until the very, very ... ?

    Although his previous coachman, when he realized that he was not coping, he found the strength to honestly declare this and leave his coachman's place ...
  31. +2
    April 8 2020 17: 36
    The state’s power structure is at the level of two thousand years ago and is not intended for reform or restructuring. If you compare with the plant, where the President is the director of the plant, then there is no plant management in it, except for the accounting and production department, which is the Government. The director himself is one for all, having at least seven spans in his forehead under the current power structure, the President will not be able to do anything good for the country and people, just like the director of a factory without a plant management. If the power in the factories were organized in the image of the current “democracy”, then not a single plane would fly, not a single machine would budge, not a single gun could shoot
    Now the President can only listen and implement the advice of internal and external "well-wishers" - lobbyists who, hiding behind the good of the people, pursue their own selfish goals. "Well-wishers" advised to introduce democracy, and the President introduced the power of lobbyists, puppeteers and fraudsters as a result, the country fell apart not in the interests of the people, but in the interests of "well-wishers". "Well-wishers" advised President Yeltsin to replace the form of ownership in the interests of the people, but the economy collapsed in the interests of "well-wishers."
  32. -1
    April 8 2020 17: 48
    Quote: AS Ivanov.
    And who will take the place of "leave"? Shall we cry?

    Alas, all are mortal. And Putin too. That is why it is better for the country that, while he is alive and has not yet lost his "rating", he WOULD move away and recommend his successor, whom he trusts (for today, I see Shoigu as his successor).
    The people will support (would support).
    Then, remaining a living conscience of the nation, the transfer of power would have passed, gently.
    Otherwise, while Putin is in place, an alternative will not appear. Then, after Putin (alas), a new debate will begin, and, I think, the last collapse of the country.

    However, the point is not even in Putin’s lifelong rule, but in his virtually permanent environment, and this is definitely a disaster!
    1. 0
      April 8 2020 22: 59
      Shoigu from his immediate circle, a friend can be said, therefore, he will continue the work of the great helmsman.
  33. +4
    April 8 2020 21: 02
    The authoritative author raised two problems:
    1) The people cease to "believe".
    And this is a payback for the demonstrative work of "image makers", "PR people", PR agencies, teams of political scientists and other masters of half-truths. If to tell the truth, then why are these people needed at all ?! ... So you have to include after Marx, "Doubt everything."

    2) We are not united! ... This is a question for the "coachmen"! Shared power. First along Montesquieu, then into "thirty-nine" units, 85 subjects and dozens of "political forces. Why? One leader and his deputies would be enough. Then we will march like the Red Army in horror stories of the West." soldier laughing
    These are all questions to the Kremlin, not ordinary people.
  34. -1
    April 8 2020 21: 05
    All this is called the "vertical of power", which is now working and for which you so mercilessly criticized Putin. In extreme circumstances, he competently manages the country and the "vertical of power" helps him in this, the results of this work are determined by the number of deaths from the coronavirus. And what would have happened if the liberals were in power - look at the deaths in the "developed" Western countries.
  35. +1
    April 8 2020 21: 15
    No wonder today's world is called the world of post-truth, where there are no starting points at all. Any assertion is immediately validated, a total filling with all and all fakes. Welcome-)))
  36. -2
    April 8 2020 22: 06
    And we are simple people, we won’t go anywhere to vote (and this is not a responsibility to take off) Anyway, whoever goes to power wants to fill his pocket and earn money for us. A good boss, who does not want to be a boss, but such people don’t go to power
  37. +2
    April 8 2020 22: 09
    Quote: paul3390
    So for a long time everything was offered - OS of the USSR 2.1, corrected and supplemented .. 2.1 - this is so that the version is odd, otherwise it's a bad omen .. wink

    Does a person who believes in signs speak of the reconstruction of the USSR? All this is sad
  38. +1
    April 8 2020 22: 11
    Quote: turbris
    All this is called the "vertical of power", which is now working and for which you so mercilessly criticized Putin. In extreme circumstances, he competently manages the country and the "vertical of power" helps him in this, the results of this work are determined by the number of deaths from the coronavirus. And what would have happened if the liberals were in power - look at the deaths in the "developed" Western countries.

    But if true communists ruled, we would have heard about the virus only by rumors.
    1. +1
      April 9 2020 11: 47
      And what are real communists? After the CPSU, such things cannot be in nature, or are you alluding to this miserable semblance of the opposition led by Zyuganov?
      1. -3
        April 9 2020 13: 19
        Return to our reality. Do you seriously think that after the seizure of the USSR by the enemies of the communists, the communists and their supporters suddenly disappeared somewhere? And to have ideological convictions, it is not necessary to be a member of any party. And Putin will never allow any politician or any party of true patriots of Russia. As soon as before the last "Putin's elections", he saw the rapidly growing popularity of Grudinin among the people, he immediately set his propagandists against him in the media, on TV, on the Web.
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  39. for
    +1
    April 8 2020 23: 09
    Almost every post in any city in Russia posted courses announcements,

    And now the site for writing dissertations is declared socially significant.
  40. 0
    April 8 2020 23: 12
    Quote: turbris
    All this is called the "vertical of power", which is now working

    Of course it works. The best management system is bureaucratic. Nobody argues. The problem is that the crisis with which the "vertical" is struggling so successfully becomes permanent. And it was precisely for legitimization that they “believed”. Putin is a wonderful crisis manager. Unfortunately, as soon as the situation normalizes, the manager’s efficiency drops sharply. This is just my, quite possibly erroneous judgment, which, however, I am ready to argue.
    Well, on the topic of the article, I can assume that replacing the "OS" will not lead to anything good. This is a historical experience. On the other hand, changes are REQUIRED. One can only hope for the prudence of the parties. And the fact that these changes will not cost blood. Too few inhabitants of this country are left. There is a chance to completely disappear. As a people and as a nation. Unfortunately, so far prudence is not observed.
  41. +2
    April 8 2020 23: 38
    Quote: Svarog
    But the Kremlin is not working .. especially in the part -Made-answer ..
    Yes, actually they do not criticize themselves, they only sing odes ..
    Reply


    Kremlin HEAD - PUTIN ...
    The words of I.V. Stalin refer to the vertical of power.
    It is in this dissonance ...
    The deputy-official layer of the ode adds about itself! There is little responsibility for them!
    They don’t cut their heads and do not put them in prison ...
    ... But in vain ... ☝️☝️☝️
  42. -1
    April 8 2020 23: 58
    Quote: romey
    There is no more spectacle than hysterical kremlebot.


    If in 2 years, such speakers "gain 15 votes, and not the gray shoulder straps of a fascist ...
    The forum was completely changed and there’s nothing to do here ... ☝️☝️☝️
  43. 0
    April 9 2020 00: 20
    Quote: depressant
    A country without beliefs does not exist.


    ... UKRAINE ... ☝️☝️☝️
  44. 0
    April 9 2020 00: 33
    During a reboot (or is it "perestroika"?), The power can be turned off, and then cuckoo - the whole bird is gone ...
  45. +2
    April 9 2020 00: 56
    Quote: romey
    You are somehow too bloodthirsty. Do not scare liberal Putinists. Frightened, they will generally become inadequate. It’s enough to tighten the article in the modern Criminal Code and really put on it the problem with liberals of all stripes from security forces to sislibs will resolve itself: some will sit down, others will run away. But for this you yourself need the prerequisites ...
    You can imagine a situation in which Tereshkova will go to the rostrum of the current State Duma ... you, will offer you what is written, and the State Duma ... and instantly adopt the law? ...

    Referring to the "operating system" the author apparently still meant the system, and the system is not individual characters for which the prison is really crying. Plant some characters, the system will give birth to new ones and will also hand over it for profit, more precisely, for the landing of characters that are not pleasing to it and do not fit perfectly into the rules of the system.
    Characters on bunks - hardly anyone will argue with this except for a kremlebot or a tightly zombified one, but for real changes it is necessary to change the system in the country and, moreover, radically. We did not build capitalism of the Western type, what turned out to be an unviable monster, we still have a high share of large state-owned companies and all experiments with transferring them into private hands ended only with the fact that the state had to buy them out and inject investments, or cover debts by failures as a result of the activities of "effective managers" from yesterday's security officers, neighbors in the dacha cooperative, etc. So since now the share of state enterprises is so high, it will not be difficult for us to nationalize and privatize to return to the rails of the planned economy, and still follow the path of socialism with a share of a market economy, while maintaining private initiative in a number of areas, while maintaining the number of small and medium-sized private businesses that have arisen since the collapse of the USSR and developed through the initiative, intellect and abilities of the owners. To attract the same foreign investments, but on transparent terms and with a guarantee of protection of their rights, property, including intellectual property.
    We urgently need to solve problems in the education system by returning the planning and distribution of personnel, and this is not only the practice of the USSR, but also of the leading industrialized countries. Education, including higher education, should be free, training should be carried out only by state universities and according to a single standard, to revive and increase the number of secondary specialized educational institutions. Investing in personnel will bring more to the country and economy. To close all private shops, riveting diplomas and unnecessary pseudo-specialists of under-education and unnecessary quantities to anyone, their existence is just a matter of arrogance and stupidity of many of us going to anything just so that the child has some kind of diploma, though we don’t see what is happening next of this, our children, and our country as a whole, have no future.
    We urgently need to solve the problem of medical care for the population by modernizing and re-introducing the Soviet system of free medical care for the population.
    Roll back and return to a normal pension system.
    It is very important to abandon national borders within the country, the administrative division should take into account the preservation of culture and the preservation of national diversity, but first of all it should serve the economic interests and production chains. Ensure a single law, its supremacy and enforcement.
    Refuse to attach the national currency, ruble, to the dollar.
    We have raw materials, we need to maximize the% of its processing within the country.
    The most important resources in this century will be food and water, we must ensure our food independence and introduce effective technologies in agriculture, ensuring not only lower costs and costs of production, but also increase food exports.
    Develop regions beyond the Urals, solve the problem of internal migration and outflow of population from the eastern regions of the country. In the case of the rule of law, the inevitability of punishment, and incorruptible courts, we will have a lot of working hands ... we will find the pick and scrap, send everyone to build infrastructure in the interests of developing the eastern regions, creating comfortable conditions for the population in general, and not just attracting them.

    This current story with the coronovirus has revealed many problems, questioned the dominance, I am moral, of the States, so to speak, their right to the ultimate truth. We have a chance to come to a strong country and a high standard of living of the population, if at a critical moment we don’t take up homework like the current Communists or characters like Navalny, and all the more if we don’t buy another tale about a white bull from liberals or a thief posing as a statesman Imperials, etc. on their background.
    1. 0
      April 9 2020 08: 21
      There will be tractors and fuel, there will be food. Food has not been a problem in the presence of land for about 60 years. It amazes me that in the year 2020, people still argue as an eternally starving 19th-century peasant who prays naturally for bread.

      Develop regions beyond the Urals, solve the problem of internal migration and outflow of population from the eastern regions of the country.


      Bulk, is that you?
      1) Stop the epidemic.
      2) Defeat the coronavirus.

      Here's the exact same plan. I have better. "Make everyone good."

      Roll back and return to a normal pension system.


      I propose returning to the time of its introduction, in 1932, when the collective farmers were not supposed to receive any pension what, by the way, was logical, if you didn’t want to go to the collective farm, go to the city, and if you are a stubborn single-handed person, then why should the state solve your problems .

      Well, or to make a retirement age from 50 years, even healthy and experienced men, instead of working, drink too much from sudden idleness. But no one starts children after 30, in principle, since only the child graduated from school, he still has to invest in it, and it’s time to retire. But a social state.
      1. -2
        April 9 2020 16: 08
        In 1932, when the retirement age was introduced, the average life expectancy was about 50 years. That is, the age of survival was generally negative.
    2. 0
      April 9 2020 17: 52
      Sarkazm, I would like to subscribe to almost every your thesis. But you listed all the available political forces in the last paragraph - inside and out. And there are no others. I am for the lesser of evils, and for at least some real prerequisites - a new type of socialist party can be created only on the basis of the Communist Party. Yes, there are enough fair compromisers there today. I believe that the struggle should be waged simultaneously - for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and within the Communist Party against the "opportunists" of our time. A new political force from scratch? - the modern Russian nobility will not create.
  46. 0
    April 9 2020 06: 38
    At such difficult moments in the history of our country, there is always a moment of truth. The Ministry of Education has declared that only 25% of students can use distance learning. For the rest, it is not available. But what about the exaggerated figure of 75%? Many representatives of the elite resemble buttons. About which Raikin said "Are there any claims to buttons? No buttons are sewn to death." Why are technocrats dangerous? They do everything right, but they do not know how to mobilize. And then they dissolve altogether among bureaucrats. And this must be said to be a separate global group of people who have taken over the leadership of the IMF, WHO, and a bunch of already unnecessary organizations.
    1. -1
      April 9 2020 11: 55
      So what? Yes, they were not ready for distance learning, and this is mainly due to the fact that parents can not provide children with laptops. Now everything is getting better, programs and manuals are being developed, organizational issues are being worked out, the same officials that you hate are working on, and the issue of distance learning will be resolved, I have no doubt about it. But you did not notice that we have the most important thing for this - affordable Internet, in most regions, and this is also the merit of the authorities.
  47. +1
    April 9 2020 08: 11
    Officials are a direct derivative of the people. What kind of people, such officials. If you have unpleasant and incompetent people sitting in your local tax office or police, then all of them are your neighbors and studied at the same schools as you, and it is not a fact that you will be better in their place.

    And it was sewn to change for soap, or even for air, as was done in the neighboring Edification Country, as A. Gasparyan calls it, so she and Edification are not needed.
  48. 0
    April 9 2020 08: 45
    When not:
    - state worldview (a system of views on the world order, shared by the majority of the people),
    - state ideology [system (goal-method-resource) of the moral principles of the organization of society, shared by the majority of the people],
    - the source of morality (what kind of country, take nothing, nothing),
    It turns out "swan, cancer and pike", which is good for one, unacceptable for his neighbor. Pluralism in one head is schizophrenia, pluralism in society is a talking shop. It turns out a half-crazy, immoral country, screaming with each other; with a story similar to scattered puzzles, and all the good that we have left are memories of a not quite arranged life according to the Code of Morality.
    Who are you, where are you from and where are you rushing, Russia, "Give me an answer ... Doesn't give an answer."
    It is necessary and possible to change the "operating system" only with the understanding of the strategy, goals, methods of development of society and the source of morality to verify the listed categories, which can NOT be developed by "talking shop", but must exclusively be obtained by a scientific method, which we do not have yet. Or is there?
  49. 0
    April 9 2020 09: 40
    Quote: Svarog
    they do not criticize themselves, only odes

    Soloviev was wary. Strongly guarded.
  50. -1
    April 9 2020 09: 55
    Quote: ser56
    Tell them few?

    there are not a few of them, they are insignificantly small, in fact - several experimental specimens that test everything, but in parades they show
  51. 0
    April 9 2020 10: 07
    Quote: ser56
    Armata, Kurganets or Su-57? Tell them few? ONLY - everything is according to the training manual of the State Department ...

    that is, if anyone claims that there are many of them, they have been in service for a long time and are successfully sold abroad in the hundreds, then he is a loyal Putinite and a patriot. and if he names the true number of these superwaffles, the actual state of affairs with their production - then he is a friend of Trump and an agent of the State Department? Your logic is strange, strange, to say the least. and why do you write the State Department with a capital letter? out of habit? this is where you slept
  52. -1
    April 9 2020 10: 23
    Quote: turbris
    And what would happen if liberals were in power - look at the deaths in the “developed” countries of the West.

    and who is in power here? and Putin himself admitted that he is a liberal, completely voluntarily
    1. 0
      April 9 2020 11: 58
      Well, it depends on who you call liberals, for me liberal democrats are all Yeltsin officials and current oppositionists, Putin is not one of them.
  53. -1
    April 9 2020 10: 29
    Quote: NordUral
    The only thing I understood was that we were still being “charged” and the “horses” were not changed at the crossing.
    About the system - nothing!

    and this is the system, carefully cultivated and popularly (in elections), approved
  54. -2
    April 9 2020 10: 59
    Where is the author aiming? Does he want to be a coachman in a cart, or to be harnessed?
  55. +1
    April 9 2020 12: 25
    In my philistine opinion, but with a good Soviet education that allows you to somehow think logically and perform actions like 2+2 that are already beyond the control of many, I think. To begin with, as 100 years ago, with the first decrees (similar to the year 18) to restore an adequate Soviet system of primary education and EDUCATION, vocational education and the system of universities, the Academy of Sciences at the ministry level, to educate not an “advanced consumer” but a creative and educated person, having fundamental knowledge, with historical cultural values. To do this, it is necessary, preferably in a peaceful and bloodless way, by LEGAL methods to bring to power, like the same 100 years ago, people, first of all, highly moral and patriotic, possessing professionalism, and most importantly, unconditional and highest responsibility for the results of their work, regardless on their personal ideological and political views. Nationalization of the banking system, exclusion of the influence of the Central Bank and the Higher School of Economics, other non-profit organizations on all aspects of life in the country, as instruments of external neo-colonial control and influence. Restoration of the bodies and structure of the state plan. Nationalization of strategic and defense sectors of the economy. Restoration and development of adequate state security bodies with broad legal powers. Otherwise, it seems to me, there will be no luck, the built semi-colonial estate inherited society, where the ruling class despises the country and the people, on the basis of lies, betrayal and crimes, is not capable of development and the fate of the country becomes sad.
    1. 0
      April 14 2020 18: 39
      There is no return to the USSR and every reasonable person understands this, so all your fantasies on this topic are only regrettable.
  56. +1
    April 9 2020 13: 23
    The concept of “Operating system” is completely out of place in this case. This is just a service like cash registers, carts and baskets in a supermarket. In the 60s there were no operating systems, but there were automated control systems and the hardware on which it all worked. In terms of hardware, we are an order of magnitude behind. If we go to the supermarket analogy, we still have the goods, but the staff are stealing. At one time, Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich collected money for the Russian navy. He did not steal the rest of the money, but invested it, contrary to the opinion of Minister of War Sukhomlinov, in the creation of military aviation. The revolution destroyed such people or drove them abroad.
    Stalin added with his purges. The war undermined the gene pool. And what do you gentlemen want?
    All that remains is to float in the boat, so as not to capsize, and grow English lawn in a box.
    The rest is all vanity of vanities.
    1. -5
      April 9 2020 17: 14
      In this case, this dirty “article” was published only to feed the red trolls here.
      Look how they are going crazy.
      What it is called and what its meaning is is completely unimportant. The main thing is that something was written there against the authorities.
      The phrases “power, bad, and Putin” cause mass furious hysteria and howling among local trolls.
      This is how the VO administration incites conflict within the country. Even if it’s only on the Internet for now, there will still be a residue.
      1. 0
        April 9 2020 18: 41
        I disagree with you, not in essence or in form.
        In form = disrespectful to call a supporter of a position different from the author a troll
        Essentially = you can pretend that everything is fine by closing your eyes = this is what children do, or you can rationally discuss issues, this is what adults, rational people do.
        Would you rather foment harmony within the country? But I might have become your supporter, but what do you want to agree on?
      2. -1
        April 9 2020 18: 56
        The conflict within the country is being fueled not by “red trolls,” but by the bourgeois-oligarchic “elite,” of which you are the lawyer in this case. It is fueled by the wild disproportion in income between the “snouts at the trough” and everyone else. It is fueled by the total impoverishment of the regions with the transformation of the capital into one endlessly greedy “stomach of our Motherland.” It inflames the impoverished population with taxes and fines, even poor pensioners, according to the principle “at least a tuft of wool from a dead sheep.” It inflames the mockingly small, deliberately defined “(not) subsistence level.” It inflames the actual lack of rights of the hired worker in the labor market. It inflames the self-removal of state power from real economic regulation, putting the citizen alone in settlements with lured "commercial pads" (housing and communal services - a classic of the genre). It inflames with empty chatter about the “digital economy,” where everything is fine in numbers, like a polished balance sheet, but “the warehouses are empty” (that is, in the pockets of the population). It is fueled by a step-by-step, steady transfer of healthcare and education to a paid monetary basis, with the emasculation of free services. It’s inflaming because at least 50% of families in such an “economy” are not able to support/educate/cloth 2 children in a family under the age of 18. Inflames with mockery in the form of penny "material aid", depicting a farce in the social sphere. It kindles with mumbles about the uselessness of state ideology, with the silently implanted ideology of the Golden Calf, the principle “your shirt is closer to your body,” “whoever (creatively tightens) managed to eat it,” etc. It has been fueled by negative demographics for 20 years (since 1999 at least). It inflames by encouraging the hiring of migrants for pennies, instead of Russian citizens for a minimum decent wage. It is fueled by a deliberate reluctance to create new high-tech production of goods and corresponding jobs. COMPLETELY ENOUGH, I think, to rub one’s nose into the one who is “stirring up” here. This is me as the “red troll”. I have never been a member of any party, I declare.
        1. +2
          April 9 2020 22: 42
          Come on, let's pretend you're poor - you and the liberals are brothers-in-arms. What did not work for some, others are now trying to do. And there is no need to push your pearls from the manual here.
      3. +1
        April 9 2020 22: 50
        This dirty scribbling is intended not so much to feed the red-blooded trolls, but to serve as agitation and propaganda material for maximalist youth. On the outskirts, before Poroshenko came to power, active propaganda work was also carried out on young people. The comments here echoing the meaning of the article are nothing more than a chorus of activists singing along.
        And the administration will someday wait for Pativen to arrive (although I think that the admins themselves live somewhere abroad). “Freedom of speech” is one thing, but allowing political crooks to carry out their subversive work on this initially remarkable site is another thing. They confused “freedom” (which implies a number of restrictions and responsibility to society) and “permissiveness”.
      4. 0
        April 14 2020 18: 43
        And who are you? White troll, again divide the people into whites and reds, and present yourself as a hero, a fighter against the regime, Putin is to blame for everything, and you are so smart and educated, you lie down on the couch, we don’t go to elections, but we allow ourselves to condescendingly criticize everything and all.
  57. 0
    April 9 2020 14: 12
    Divide and Conquer
  58. 0
    April 9 2020 15: 45
    Right. The decision has been made - let it be carried out. And it doesn’t matter how much you don’t like it. Machiavelli also pointed out that the sovereign must carry out the decisions they make.
  59. +1
    April 9 2020 16: 51
    There can only be one saving “operating system” - Socialism! Without excesses, with the state. support for small and medium-sized businesses, but strictly limited in turnover and only in consumer sectors. . With the mandatory presence of a chain of state-owned enterprises in every sector of the economy. to prevent "cartel" agreements of any kind. With the tariffication of salaries in the public sector and government bodies of the country, - together, - from the cleaner of a state-owned enterprise to the prime minister, tied to the indexed amount of the REAL subsistence level for a family of 4 people. With the elimination of the monstrous multi-order gap in wages between the “working man” and all sorts of top managers of state corporations and the public who amuse them (all these United Russia athletes/artists/experts of sour cabbage soup who have fallen to the crap of the state budget). With the first priority mandatory nationalization of resource monopolies, strategically important enterprises and housing and communal services (in housing and communal services, a citizen must pay with the State, and not with “commercial gaskets”, and let the State attract outsourcers as it pleases). With the development of small eco-cities, with the revival of the countryside, and simply with the Settlement (!) of the territories of the Far East. But ALL this is impossible under the rule of the bourgeois-oligarchic clique and its “service personnel”, which is so popular with such gentlemen as carstorm11 and ser56. My criticism of the Putin model is that it is not “on the right” (like the Navalnyts), it is “on the left.” Whether it’s the liberals nodding to the West, the Putins guarding the good, or the circus performers like the LDPR and the “fairly” Russians serving the system - for my people death is certain, the only difference is in the timing of the “optimization of the population.” A few words about the Constitutional amendments: the point is not even that bourgeois “patriots” WENT IN there. The fact is that they DIDN’T put it in there, and this makes the value of these same amendments NU-LE-VOY. - IBD.. I was never a blind apologist for Communism, but in 1989 I still took exams at the university on the History of the CPSU. Everything happened in my youth, and I left the Komsomol in 1991, and even voted for Borka in the last days of the RSFSR. However, since 1993, I have had a strong desire to wring (politically) the necks of the “chicks of Gaidar’s nest” and his current monetarist followers. The situation is simple: either these “creative” gentlemen will finally go to the dustbin of history, or the entire “optimized” Russian People.
    1. 0
      April 12 2020 02: 30
      There is no such thing as a rescue system.
      There is only safe mode.
      1. 0
        April 13 2020 10: 29
        Please read the letters more carefully. There was no talk about the “rescue” system. This is for the Ministry of Emergency Situations. The Russian word "saving" has a different meaning... But this is not the place for lectures on semantics.
  60. -6
    April 9 2020 17: 11
    Quote: Svarog
    Did you feel like a slave in the USSR? Me not. Because the dictatorship of the proletariat was.

    And, that is, the proletariat itself, mine and the dictatorship - I am the master, and the rest, not the proletariat, are slaves. Even if you die.
    And this is normal.
    Cheerfully. Communist.
    1. -5
      April 9 2020 18: 38
      Wake up! When was the proletariat allowed to take power? Or were high-ranking CPS members proletarians?
  61. 0
    April 9 2020 18: 28
    Wonderful, informative article!
    I don’t agree with some of these points:
    1. The problem is the multitude of opinions and because of this, the people, the government, because of the many opinions, do not make one decision and do not implement it, hence the hesitation and loss of effectiveness.
    Regarding the first thesis, I think that the problem for both the government and many Russians is that when making decisions they rely not on facts and science, but on something else (expert opinions are another excellent option; the question is how to choose experts and how At the same time, making decisions is a separate issue, more often I think so, because it’s right because I think so, or they don’t think at all, but simply act on a whim.
    The reasons for this are the following:
    1. Cultural
    a) The habit of shifting responsibility for your life, not to mention the life of the city, the country, to someone other than yourself. (from parents to the history of the country, Putin, the Government, the Masons, etc. = this does not mean that they do not exist or they do not influence on our lives, but for some reason many people forget that the person himself is generally not a complete zero and not only an object but also a subject)
    b) The focus of attention in the media and many citizens is on failures (I don’t mean to shout praises to the Government and Putin with enthusiastic cries, but both success and failure in our country, as it happens) are not covered equally, and most importantly , in my opinion, when discussing neither successes nor failures, there is almost no analysis of what worked well and how it was done, and what needs to be improved and the reasons for successes and failures.
    c) The almost complete absence of a positive agenda = what’s not to like is clear to everyone here, but the work plan for a better future, the program for its implementation, meaningful ones are practically absent from left to right. And the main thing here, in my opinion, is not that we will have capitalism, socialism, but specific content = like human life, 90% of the people will become better due to what and what everyone will have to do for this. And not at the behest of a pike, but on the basis of calculation, science.
    d) Subjectively, I can’t give statistics, the level of education has decreased massively and hence, the majority have lost the ability to form their judgments in a rational way. (They were able to fantasize and believe in different things even in prehistoric times)
    e) Discrediting of social sciences in the Russian Federation as a science - from a system that, like any science, has predictive power = twice two always turns out to be 4 and there is absolutely no need to believe in it, they turned all issues of social development into a talk show = chatterology, where you can spin it like in a kaleidoscope and twist any facts (it’s still good if they are facts) and get completely different pictures and boldly say I think so and it seems that this is enough....
    f) In our country, for some reason, many people believe that the Government rules the country almost like God - you just have to want it and everything will be great, and the Government only acts within the framework of the laws and available resources and they are people like any of us - with their own limitations, weaknesses, talents, inclinations. These are just people. As is obvious to anyone who has managed at least 2 people, it is inevitable to rely on subordinates, including their opinions, when making decisions and implementing decisions. The higher up the management ladder the further a person is from reality, and he is essentially a hostage to the reports and draft decisions that are prepared for him. Due to life and professional experience, common sense and the struggle of factions within the system, there is a small chance of finding an inconsistency or an error. But taking into account the monstrous volume of issues that need to be considered and decisions approved, I am simply amazed at how everything simply works in the current system, for me it is rather a miracle... In general, it would be great if our citizens had a rational idea of ​​how the Government works , relevant ministries. In reality, who makes these or those decisions and how, for example, healthcare is managed. I’ll say it’s scary to understand what management in general is without mysticism, but purely pragmatically and specifically = management technology.

    2. Economic and political (the base determines the superstructure)
    a) Whose interests can the Government express in a bourgeois society? Rhetorical question
    b) Have we had any experience when, under socialism, the interests of the proletariat, of a specific person, were sold. trampled and betrayed - yes. Hence, socialism is not a religion, but a rational path, a program of action to achieve the highest rates of growth in well-being for the majority of the country's citizens with a rational management system from the level of their home to the state with the participation of every person
  62. aba
    -1
    April 9 2020 19: 01
    In fact, the social system that we have, capitalism, does not have the task of improving the social health of society, it has only one goal - profit. And the general talking shop is muddy water in which there is good fishing.
  63. +2
    April 9 2020 19: 18
    Quote: Mestny
    Tell me who your idol is and I’ll tell you who you are.

    ^ SECOND COMMANDMENT. Thou shalt not make for thyself an idol or any likeness, such as the tree in heaven, and the tree below on earth, and the tree in the waters under the earth: thou shalt not bow down to them, nor serve them. You shall not make for yourself an idol or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or on the earth below, or in the waters under the earth; do not worship or serve them.
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  65. -1
    April 9 2020 20: 25
    Quote: Mestny
    This is how the VO administration incites conflict within the country. Let it be only on the Internet for now,

    In Sportloto laughing
  66. -1
    April 9 2020 21: 15
    Ten generations of Windows have passed
    It's time to change the operating system
  67. 0
    April 9 2020 21: 29
    Quote: andrew42
    Sarkazm, I would like to subscribe to almost every your thesis. But you listed all the available political forces in the last paragraph - inside and out. And there are no others. I am for the lesser of evils, and for at least some real prerequisites - a new type of socialist party can be created only on the basis of the Communist Party. Yes, there are enough fair compromisers there today. I believe that the struggle should be waged simultaneously - for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and within the Communist Party against the "opportunists" of our time. A new political force from scratch? - the modern Russian nobility will not create.
    Hmm, I didn’t know that March 1 is the date of registration of the RSDLP in the tsarist “Ministry of Justice”...
    Both in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and outside it, we have several communist movements in our country, many practicing communists, but of course there are more “members”. The whole gang is now decorated with “members” of the CPSU, doesn’t this give you any ideas?
    Answer yourself the following question: is the “legitimacy” of the operetta of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and, as a consequence, its recognition by the gang so important? To spend energy and time fighting “in and around” the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
    Given the impossibility of a legitimate struggle, be it through free and objective elections, unbiased courts, what is the point of this legitimacy of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation? IMHO, the price is a penny, and only if you like formalism - membership cards, badges, stamps on the payment of party dues.
    Once upon a time we taught others to fight and win in conditions that were obviously worse than ours now, but we ourselves have apparently forgotten how.

    The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is part of the system, and the system must not only be broken, but dismantled, destroyed to the ground and thrown into the trash. And the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is there, it’s just a registered political organization, but this is not about an idea, neither communism nor practicing communists live according to a piece of paper from the Ministry of Justice. And our party was called the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks). Any socialist or communist party can be created always and everywhere, we had good teachers and have their experience.
  68. -1
    April 9 2020 22: 56
    Vinaigrette...or porridge...whatever

    law enforcement officers took accountants as the cause of action
    They still take stupid people to this day...
  69. +2
    April 10 2020 00: 49
    Oy-vey: I think I ended up in a “blue oyster” bar - because here in the comments there are almost only “left-wing” men laughing
  70. -1
    April 10 2020 07: 23
    "It's all about the horses!" Only these are not horses, but donkeys and camels.
  71. -1
    April 10 2020 09: 12
    But I think that the whole point is not in the horses, but in the cart itself. We can remove the horses and install a solar-powered engine, but this is not the case, we need to change the frame and chassis
  72. 0
    April 10 2020 10: 02
    Quote: Gene84
    Quote: Stas157
    No media change

    Therefore, in the next election it is necessary to vote for the Communists. Only Soviet power is capable of changing the situation in the country.

    Where are they communists? Where did you see them? There are only compromisers and traitors, starting with Zyuganov and further down the ladder!
    1. -3
      April 10 2020 13: 30
      Thank God there are no communists. They will ruin the country again.
  73. 0
    April 10 2020 10: 06
    Quote: gromovanton
    Wonderful, informative article!
    I don’t agree with some of these points:
    1. The problem is the multitude of opinions and because of this, the people, the government, because of the many opinions, do not make one decision and do not implement it, hence the hesitation and loss of effectiveness.
    Regarding the first thesis, I think that the problem for both the government and many Russians is that when making decisions they rely not on facts and science, but on something else (expert opinions are another excellent option; the question is how to choose experts and how At the same time, making decisions is a separate issue, more often I think so, because it’s right because I think so, or they don’t think at all, but simply act on a whim.
    The reasons for this are the following:
    1. Cultural
    a) The habit of shifting responsibility for your life, not to mention the life of the city, the country, to someone other than yourself. (from parents to the history of the country, Putin, the Government, the Masons, etc. = this does not mean that they do not exist or they do not influence on our lives, but for some reason many people forget that the person himself is generally not a complete zero and not only an object but also a subject)
    b) The focus of attention in the media and many citizens is on failures (I don’t mean to shout praises to the Government and Putin with enthusiastic cries, but both success and failure in our country, as it happens) are not covered equally, and most importantly , in my opinion, when discussing neither successes nor failures, there is almost no analysis of what worked well and how it was done, and what needs to be improved and the reasons for successes and failures.
    c) The almost complete absence of a positive agenda = what’s not to like is clear to everyone here, but the work plan for a better future, the program for its implementation, meaningful ones are practically absent from left to right. And the main thing here, in my opinion, is not that we will have capitalism, socialism, but specific content = like human life, 90% of the people will become better due to what and what everyone will have to do for this. And not at the behest of a pike, but on the basis of calculation, science.
    d) Subjectively, I can’t give statistics, the level of education has decreased massively and hence, the majority have lost the ability to form their judgments in a rational way. (They were able to fantasize and believe in different things even in prehistoric times)
    e) Discrediting of social sciences in the Russian Federation as a science - from a system that, like any science, has predictive power = twice two always turns out to be 4 and there is absolutely no need to believe in it, they turned all issues of social development into a talk show = chatterology, where you can spin it like in a kaleidoscope and twist any facts (it’s still good if they are facts) and get completely different pictures and boldly say I think so and it seems that this is enough....
    f) In our country, for some reason, many people believe that the Government rules the country almost like God - you just have to want it and everything will be great, and the Government only acts within the framework of the laws and available resources and they are people like any of us - with their own limitations, weaknesses, talents, inclinations. These are just people. As is obvious to anyone who has managed at least 2 people, it is inevitable to rely on subordinates, including their opinions, when making decisions and implementing decisions. The higher up the management ladder the further a person is from reality, and he is essentially a hostage to the reports and draft decisions that are prepared for him. Due to life and professional experience, common sense and the struggle of factions within the system, there is a small chance of finding an inconsistency or an error. But taking into account the monstrous volume of issues that need to be considered and decisions approved, I am simply amazed at how everything simply works in the current system, for me it is rather a miracle... In general, it would be great if our citizens had a rational idea of ​​how the Government works , relevant ministries. In reality, who makes these or those decisions and how, for example, healthcare is managed. I’ll say it’s scary to understand what management in general is without mysticism, but purely pragmatically and specifically = management technology.

    2. Economic and political (the base determines the superstructure)
    a) Whose interests can the Government express in a bourgeois society? Rhetorical question
    b) Have we had any experience when, under socialism, the interests of the proletariat, of a specific person, were sold. trampled and betrayed - yes. Hence, socialism is not a religion, but a rational path, a program of action to achieve the highest rates of growth in well-being for the majority of the country's citizens with a rational management system from the level of their home to the state with the participation of every person

    Verbiage! When will you learn to speak Russian? Briefly and clearly so that people can understand?
  74. 0
    April 10 2020 10: 14
    Quote: seacap
    In my philistine opinion, but with a good Soviet education that allows you to somehow think logically and perform actions like 2+2 that are already beyond the control of many, I think. To begin with, as 100 years ago, with the first decrees (similar to the year 18) to restore an adequate Soviet system of primary education and EDUCATION, vocational education and the system of universities, the Academy of Sciences at the ministry level, to educate not an “advanced consumer” but a creative and educated person, having fundamental knowledge, with historical cultural values. To do this, it is necessary, preferably in a peaceful and bloodless way, by LEGAL methods to bring to power, like the same 100 years ago, people, first of all, highly moral and patriotic, possessing professionalism, and most importantly, unconditional and highest responsibility for the results of their work, regardless on their personal ideological and political views. Nationalization of the banking system, exclusion of the influence of the Central Bank and the Higher School of Economics, other non-profit organizations on all aspects of life in the country, as instruments of external neo-colonial control and influence. Restoration of the bodies and structure of the state plan. Nationalization of strategic and defense sectors of the economy. Restoration and development of adequate state security bodies with broad legal powers. Otherwise, it seems to me, there will be no luck, the built semi-colonial estate inherited society, where the ruling class despises the country and the people, on the basis of lies, betrayal and crimes, is not capable of development and the fate of the country becomes sad.

    You are a naive person, dear! Do you hope that they will bloodlessly give up their power to the people? Yes, this will never happen and forget even to think about it!!! Does the last “zeroing” mean anything to you?
  75. 0
    April 10 2020 10: 20
    Quote: Sarkazm
    Quote: romey
    You are somehow too bloodthirsty. Do not scare liberal Putinists. Frightened, they will generally become inadequate. It’s enough to tighten the article in the modern Criminal Code and really put on it the problem with liberals of all stripes from security forces to sislibs will resolve itself: some will sit down, others will run away. But for this you yourself need the prerequisites ...
    You can imagine a situation in which Tereshkova will go to the rostrum of the current State Duma ... you, will offer you what is written, and the State Duma ... and instantly adopt the law? ...

    Referring to the "operating system" the author apparently still meant the system, and the system is not individual characters for which the prison is really crying. Plant some characters, the system will give birth to new ones and will also hand over it for profit, more precisely, for the landing of characters that are not pleasing to it and do not fit perfectly into the rules of the system.
    Characters on bunks - hardly anyone will argue with this except for a kremlebot or a tightly zombified one, but for real changes it is necessary to change the system in the country and, moreover, radically. We did not build capitalism of the Western type, what turned out to be an unviable monster, we still have a high share of large state-owned companies and all experiments with transferring them into private hands ended only with the fact that the state had to buy them out and inject investments, or cover debts by failures as a result of the activities of "effective managers" from yesterday's security officers, neighbors in the dacha cooperative, etc. So since now the share of state enterprises is so high, it will not be difficult for us to nationalize and privatize to return to the rails of the planned economy, and still follow the path of socialism with a share of a market economy, while maintaining private initiative in a number of areas, while maintaining the number of small and medium-sized private businesses that have arisen since the collapse of the USSR and developed through the initiative, intellect and abilities of the owners. To attract the same foreign investments, but on transparent terms and with a guarantee of protection of their rights, property, including intellectual property.
    We urgently need to solve problems in the education system by returning the planning and distribution of personnel, and this is not only the practice of the USSR, but also of the leading industrialized countries. Education, including higher education, should be free, training should be carried out only by state universities and according to a single standard, to revive and increase the number of secondary specialized educational institutions. Investing in personnel will bring more to the country and economy. To close all private shops, riveting diplomas and unnecessary pseudo-specialists of under-education and unnecessary quantities to anyone, their existence is just a matter of arrogance and stupidity of many of us going to anything just so that the child has some kind of diploma, though we don’t see what is happening next of this, our children, and our country as a whole, have no future.
    We urgently need to solve the problem of medical care for the population by modernizing and re-introducing the Soviet system of free medical care for the population.
    Roll back and return to a normal pension system.
    It is very important to abandon national borders within the country, the administrative division should take into account the preservation of culture and the preservation of national diversity, but first of all it should serve the economic interests and production chains. Ensure a single law, its supremacy and enforcement.
    Refuse to attach the national currency, ruble, to the dollar.
    We have raw materials, we need to maximize the% of its processing within the country.
    The most important resources in this century will be food and water, we must ensure our food independence and introduce effective technologies in agriculture, ensuring not only lower costs and costs of production, but also increase food exports.
    Develop regions beyond the Urals, solve the problem of internal migration and outflow of population from the eastern regions of the country. In the case of the rule of law, the inevitability of punishment, and incorruptible courts, we will have a lot of working hands ... we will find the pick and scrap, send everyone to build infrastructure in the interests of developing the eastern regions, creating comfortable conditions for the population in general, and not just attracting them.

    This current story with the coronovirus has revealed many problems, questioned the dominance, I am moral, of the States, so to speak, their right to the ultimate truth. We have a chance to come to a strong country and a high standard of living of the population, if at a critical moment we don’t take up homework like the current Communists or characters like Navalny, and all the more if we don’t buy another tale about a white bull from liberals or a thief posing as a statesman Imperials, etc. on their background.

    All this verbiage, alas... None of this will happen. We need a new LENIN and STALIN. Then Russia will be reborn!
  76. +1
    April 10 2020 13: 41
    What kind of unhealthy desire to change the system?
    At the beginning of the article, you talk about how it was in the 90s, giving an example up to the employer level.

    In the second block, you already talk about how one group of specialists criticizes another, leading to the conclusion that this is bad.

    In the third block you convey the message that many opinions are bad and therefore “it’s all about the horses”; there are too many of them, one is enough.

    Attention question: who are you Mr. Anderson? Why are you acting as just another horse? In fact, you yourself contradict your own theses.
    And why change the system?
    I didn't find any answers.
  77. 0
    April 11 2020 18: 09
    In general, there is an idea. I only disagree with the thesis about youth and authority. Young people (often) have no authority. And this is absolutely correct. If you express an “authoritative” opinion, prove it. And we are full of old fools with inflated “authorities” in our heads.