Boots versus boots - the centuries-old evolution of military shoes

Boots versus boots - the centuries-old evolution of military shoes

Nobody will argue about the critical importance for each soldier in high-quality, durable and comfortable shoes. With pounded, soaked, and even more so, dislocated limbs, you won’t get much. Without going into the gray depths of time, let us try to trace how this most important part of army equipment has changed over the past and present centuries.


By the beginning of the twentieth century, some armies of the world came up in the most reliable and solid shoes at that time - leather boots. Someone is inclined to assert that the matter is in the “fashion”, which was asked by the cavalry represented in the troops to a rather large extent, but this is unlikely. The soldier’s tibia, like the foot, needs to be protected, especially in the process of moving over rough terrain with tall grass and shrubs, crossing rivers and crawling. The proof of this assertion is that even in those armies whose soldiers were not wearing boots, but boots, they also included windings that were absolutely necessary to wear.

Some experts consider them to be “pioneers” in wearing the windings of the fighters of the British East India Company, who “spied” wide strips of fabric that protect the lower leg of the inhabitants of the Himalayas. Domestic patriots object that Russian peasants wore such things from time immemorial and called onuchi ... One way or another, but many soldiers of both the European armed forces and the Russian army wore short boots with windings during the First World War. The Japanese, however, fought in this form right up to 1945.

I must say that the only thing in which such a style of shoes won over boots was the cheap rag “bootlegs”, which was incomparable with the price of leather shoes (and there simply wasn’t another one then). The rest of the windings were a useless thing - they practically didn’t protect them from mechanical damage or ice water, they quickly became dirty and became hotbeds of fungal and other infections, and besides, they stretched to the limit by the end of the day turning soldiers' legs into numbed “decks” . So, boots or boots?

The problem with the boots was different - it was impossible to put trashy skin on them, as a rule (at least in Russia) for army shoes they used the skin of spring, young cows and gobies, which possessed the necessary qualities. In peacetime, this was still doable, but when World War I broke out, and a year later, entire units of our army flaunted their bast shoes. Well, it wasn’t barefoot to go into battle ... Obviously, precisely because of this, the most radical and practical problem of making mass, reliable and practical soldier’s shoes was solved in our country. Speech, of course, about the legendary "cake".

Actually, they invented it in Russia twice - for the first time the prototype of this material was created by Major General Mikhail Pomortsev, and even before the Russo-Japanese War. However, the innovation “didn’t go,” they say that it was largely due to the machinations of leather boot manufacturers. The second "birth" of tarpaulin happened already in the USSR in the 30s of the twentieth century. The first samples were unsuccessful and during the “Winter War” with Finland at extremely low temperatures proved to be bad - they were torn and burst. However, after the completion of the accelerated pace of development, the Red Army nevertheless received the very legendary shoes in which it survived the entire Great Patriotic War and reached Berlin. And even more than one generation of soldiers of the Soviet army served in the same “kirzachs”.

New page in stories military shoes opened by the Americans. They again brought army boots back to life, while, however, significantly improving their quality due to the high boot-tibia, firmly fixing and protecting the ankle. The first such model was the shoes of the sample M-1943. However, the true masterpiece was created by the shoe makers of Corcoran Stoughton, who developed the first ever special airborne footwear. Boots Corcoran Field II, released in 1942 to this day are in great demand despite the fact that their design has not changed an iota for almost 80 years. Exceptional lightness, durability and reliability.

In the future, the army boot underwent changes, for the most part, in the field of, so to speak, specialization. Today, there are shoes designed specifically to be worn both in a temperate climate and in the desert or mountains. Since the invention of the special “tractor” sole during the Korean War, special Jungle boots have been produced, as the name implies, ideally suited for wearing in the jungle. With the advent of new synthetic materials for soles and fabrics, such as, for example, cordura, an increasing number of army shoes are made from their combinations, which provide it with even greater reliability and functionality. A modern soldier’s boot is, in fact, a real work of art, modeled and created using the most advanced technologies. However, the requirements for him remained the same as a century ago - a soldier shrouded in him should move to victory through fire and water, never tripping and not losing step.
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  1. Mytholog April 7 2020 16: 59 New
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    Yes, not against, but complement each other. On the march - more comfortable boots. To jump in a short exit or with a parachute - boots.
    In short, depending on which parts.
  2. Andrey VOV April 7 2020 17: 01 New
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    Earlier, there were articles on Army footwear on Vaud, and they were much deeper, more interesting and informative, but here is some kind of hidden advertisement for American shoe manufacturers ....
    1. The leader of the Redskins April 7 2020 17: 08 New
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      I agree. Galloping over shoes ... Very poor and superficial.
    2. Chaldon48 April 7 2020 23: 51 New
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      Andrey VOV, are our shoes better? If so, with what?
      1. Severok April 12 2020 17: 53 New
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        are our shoes better? If so, with what?
        And all the better, boots with high berets have either a reassorted size or a suede such that it is a huge desire for buyers and suppliers of such shoes to sew to death without removing it! As a result, you have to buy your own shoes. I don’t know what the conscripts are, what guano they’re giving out !!!
  3. paul3390 April 7 2020 17: 06 New
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    If you wear it in a field for a long time, I personally categorically have a boot and a footcloth .. Of course, I’ve got more breezy in my berets, but climbing a mud is a gloom .. And if you need to quickly take it off or put on a cloth .. So, footcloth - you won’t get enough socks for a long time , even high-quality ..
    1. Andrey VOV April 7 2020 17: 12 New
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      Footcloths are a great thing ... a small river or a pond, prostrated, squeezed, hung on a boot, dried up, instantly reeled up and forward .. and their legs were not sung in them
      1. bk316 April 7 2020 17: 51 New
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        Footcloths are a great thing ...

        My father, up to 70 years old, went camping and only in footcloths. Yes, and I'm still in boots too. Actually in boots, footcloths are better than any socks, even the most sophisticated type of X-Sox.
        But modern shoes is another story, I would prefer them to the Kirzach. Only berets are not about that. If you choose between berets and kirsachs, I would choose boots.

        Well, modern shoes, and they dry faster and keep the ankle and they can step on the spikes and do not slip- AND ONE STANDS AS A KIRZA TO THE PLANT. laughing
      2. Gaersul April 8 2020 08: 56 New
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        Quote: Andrey VOV
        Footcloths are a great thing

        There is another plus. When children are born in the family, you can swaddle the baby better than the spouse. To the wife's round eyes and her surprised question: "How are you so swaddled that he cannot get out?" With a smile he answered: "What was it in vain that I learned to wind my footcloths?" laughing
    2. Lopatov April 7 2020 20: 11 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      but climb the mud

      Rubber. As an addition to the shoes, this is it.
    3. sak1969 April 8 2020 00: 46 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      If you wear it in a field for a long time, I personally categorically have a boot and a footcloth .. Of course, I’ve got more breezy in my berets, but climbing a mud is a gloom .. And if you need to quickly take it off or put on a cloth .. So, footcloth - you won’t get enough socks for a long time , even high-quality ..

      In the field, looking at what time of year? Maybe in rubber boots it’s best.
      By the way, about socks, I bought BATES berets and two pairs of inner boots for them in the 90s.
      These boots are an unkillable thing.
      1. sak1969 April 8 2020 00: 53 New
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        Here are the berets and the inner boot.

  4. Lamata April 7 2020 17: 11 New
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    No matter what they say, but kirsa !!! Well, who served he knows !!! 27 years have passed and I can still wind my footcloths.
    1. Andrey VOV April 7 2020 17: 18 New
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      and it’s like on a bicycle, I just learned it, you won’t forget it anymore))))
      1. DMB 75 April 7 2020 17: 21 New
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        Who was not - that will be, who was - will not forget 730 days in boots! drinks
        Boots should be cleaned in the evening and worn in the morning on a fresh head. Boots are your face.
        There are no narrow boots, there are wrong legs.
        What kind of look do you have, comrade soldier? The boots are not cleaned, the face is unshaven - how small!
        Private comrade, what kind of boots do you have? Heels are stitched to the tip.
        1. Lamata April 7 2020 18: 27 New
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          The guy was in the unit, says all 2 years he served in the same boots. and I believe him
          1. Sergey Valov April 7 2020 18: 58 New
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            In the 70s. a pair of boots was issued for one year. By the end of the year, almost everyone had holes in the lower part of the bootlegs, and after all, I served in the air defense, what was in the infantry.
            1. Lamata April 7 2020 18: 59 New
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              I know, thanks, for clarification, but really the guy 2 years in the same boots, Although there were shoes and boots seemed to give out, but he cut through them.
            2. tatarin1972 April 10 2020 20: 51 New
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              We were given boots for 8 months. I don’t know what is kirsa, yuft boots with a short shaft that goes with a bell. The boot is certainly heavy, but the very thing to run on the stones.
            3. Engineer engineer April 11 2020 14: 57 New
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              Our foreman was a noble! Issued a substitution. And with cotton as well (69-71)
            4. vadivm59 April 12 2020 16: 30 New
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              And we were given 1 pair for 8 months in the winged infantry, for a total of 3 pairs for 2 years. 70s.
          2. tolancop April 7 2020 22: 43 New
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            I do not believe that 2 years in some boots will be able to pass.
            Quote: Sergey Valov
            In the 70s. a pair of boots was issued for one year. By the end of the year, almost everyone had holes in the lower part of the bootlegs, and after all, I served in the air defense, what was in the infantry.

            I served in the early 80s. The standard term for wearing socks is 8 months. It is unlikely that in the 70s this period was higher.
            And even 8 months is a lot! After about 6 months, personally, my boots required repair. Replacing the stitched heel does not count, as they say - a consumable. And I served where shagistic and legwork (crosses) were not reached, and then the socks did not fit in due time. And how did the infantry manage to go through them for 8 months ?, - for me this mystery is great.
            There is a special conversation about footcloths .... I didn’t go to berets, so I can not say anything about them. And here is a pair of foot-boots, IMHO, the best combination for the average warrior. 2 years passed in footcloths and was normal, I have never washed my feet. It was once that he unsuccessfully twisted a footcloth and crushed the edge of the foot. Unpleasant and painful, but not like from scuffs. But he didn’t wear socks in principle, since the footcloth was cozy and comfortable. I am a resident of the village and began to wear kirzachi 2-3 years before the army, incl. Arriving at the troops he climbed into his usual shoe. True, he did not use footcloths before the army and did not know how to wind them. On the very first day in the army, the sergeant showed how to wind them properly and that was enough. I still can’t understand why this can be difficult? In fairness, I should note that I saw people with their legs worn out: in the training of these “sufferers” they were taken out as a separate team, since the soldier in slippers in general looks more than strange.
            And the article is empty: there’s nothing new, the author is like that .... he knocked the tops on well-known facts and nothing more ...
            1. Fitter65 April 8 2020 00: 59 New
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              Quote: tolancop
              I served in the early 80s. The standard term for wearing socks is 8 months. It is unlikely that in the 70s this period was higher.

              It is tarpaulin for 8 months. We in the SGV were given yuft - couple for a year ...
            2. Lamata April 8 2020 01: 51 New
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              Turkmenistan had its own peculiarities.
        2. Lamata April 7 2020 20: 32 New
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          EEE, Kamrad, what right now 730 days in boots, moms, folders, mobile phones, something else, and then, in the SA, you answer for yourself, the boys were there.
      2. Lamata April 7 2020 17: 24 New
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        This is yes + to you, it’s a reflex, sort of like giving honor or reloading when changing the guard
        1. Alexey RA April 7 2020 18: 40 New
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          Quote: Lamata
          This is yes + to you, it’s a reflex, sort of like giving honor or reloading when changing the guard

          Yeah ... first, turn the shutter, and then disconnect the store - and finally learn a lot of new and unexpected about yourself, your biography and genealogy. smile
          1. Lamata April 7 2020 18: 42 New
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            I repent, I was from the clergy a couple of times, got into plywood, realized. wink
    2. Old partisan April 7 2020 18: 20 New
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      Well, yes, someone else did not know how to wind up the first march of a throw at KMB. But then purely on the machine.
      1. Lamata April 7 2020 18: 28 New
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        She taught two things at once, to give way and footcloths.
    3. Lopatov April 7 2020 20: 15 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      and I can still wind my footcloths.

      But the legs can’t stand it anymore ...
      By the end of the second year, I was a ten-jungler parachuting with footcloths, I extinguished the bulls on an argument about heels ... Now I won’t pull it for sure

      In fact, during the KMB, footcloths do not learn to wind, and legs get used to foot with boots with footcloths
      1. Lamata April 7 2020 20: 35 New
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        Maybe I don’t argue, everyone has his own, but I dig the ground at the dacha or drag out my footcloths and boots, and off we go, then they will not let the moderators go))))))))))))))))))))) ))) but the indefinite article .. for, is present)))))
  5. 30143 April 7 2020 17: 15 New
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    The question is interesting. I had the experience of wearing only a kirzach. Shoes - only to dress uniform.
    Intuitively, I need boots for certain conditions, and bots for others.
    And what will the experienced say?
    1. Lamata April 7 2020 17: 19 New
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      ceremonial boots, well, torment, was not always worn often, but what we were given in 1991-92 was NO !!! , kersey was worn. In addition, the so-called lightweight, but they were few. No, at that time our kirsa was everything.
      1. tolancop April 8 2020 08: 50 New
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        In formal boots during the service he walked only a couple of times. We didn’t like them, preferring to walk in boots. And the thing is rather not even in the shoes, but in the fact that you get so used to the belt that without it (wearing shoes, without a belt, boots with a belt, uniform requirements for those who do not know) it feels like you're not wearing it. ..
    2. zuber April 7 2020 18: 07 New
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      In the army I had a chance to walk around in boots and boots, since the summer uniform for Central Asia involves boots. In winter, kirsach is definitely better. It's too hot in summer. The legs begin to swell at once. It’s easier in boots, only socks “burned” with terrible force.
      I’m already in civilian life when I worked in geology in the fall, when the snow falls, I tried to walk in kirszach.
    3. 113262a April 7 2020 19: 21 New
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      In the war in the Donbass, I-for the boots! Summer-tarpaulin, spring-autumn -or rubber, or tarpaulin + stocking from OZK. Winter-that doesn’t get wet-gets wet! The boot-even with a hole-rewound-and dry, the footcloth dries up. Yes, a dukhan from a week-long winter-blue is such a thing, but nothing can be compared! Yes, in winter, bike and summer, that's it! Socks do not stock up! And berets, for show, are in the dugout.
      1. Lamata April 7 2020 20: 37 New
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        And in the rubber, it’s not dreary to fight? even walk
    4. awdrgy April 7 2020 21: 49 New
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      In winter, it is better for daggers with a blunt nose (well, those with a heavy strap on the side) wore 2 footcloths or terry socks and a summer footcloth with an envelope. stupid I didn’t use it, but some people had it, it seemed like the topic for the field Well, berets, it’s a little cold in the winter because of this you need to take a larger size so that inside there is air space and a footcloth, too, an envelope to the socks in them immediately because they quickly become by sweatshirts, but in lightweight amphibious assault current socks are also terry socks. As for the heat, it’s best to import socks with a berets from ventilated material (the main thing is that there wouldn’t be any legs on the main part of this net, and then, like a stoker) or sneakers sock Well, for a trench mud-rubber on a woolen sock (I still need to get this dream of the occupier nada)
  6. knn54 April 7 2020 17: 22 New
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    Those who served in the army know that: in kirzach. with prolonged wear, it was possible to earn a fungal infection of the skin, and even nails.
    1. Andrey VOV April 7 2020 17: 49 New
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      I don’t know, elementary minimum rules of hygiene and no fungus, whoever had chushkar, yes, not only fungus, but everyone else in the company had no problems
    2. Lamata April 7 2020 18: 29 New
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      Fungus !! it was necessary to wash the feet more often and to dry the cheeses.
    3. Sergey Valov April 7 2020 19: 01 New
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      The fungus was earned from dirty footcloths (they were washed centrally once a week, or independently if necessary).
      1. awdrgy April 7 2020 22: 07 New
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        Yes, no. When there is no water to wash for a month or even more, it’s all the same for some fungus and some haven’t, and for whom it usually appears different for everyone on their feet (the most aggressive garbage you can’t actually walk from the hospital you won’t return to the part) between the fingers and nails naturally I was lucky, but on a civilian in the bath I took a pain. The doctor generally explained that everyone has immunity to certain forms, even if the nail fungus has a strain on each nail (or something like that I remember how it is right) But about 10 percent of the population are lucky (they don’t take them at all) And of course it’s important to wash your feet (firstly, you won’t be stinky; secondly, you’ll be lucky and wash this microscopic particle before it penetrates the skin), but this is if possible there is
  7. Doccor18 April 7 2020 17: 25 New
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    He served in tarpaulin boots. For war, shoes are indispensable. Strong and cheap. Foot socks are not a brother, they will wipe their nose off any sock. But generally not comfortable. After several hours in them, the legs begin to die slowly.
    Bertsa is certainly better, more functional, but much more expensive.
  8. boris epstein April 7 2020 17: 27 New
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    Even after the army, when I work on the line, I prefer boots. And in bad weather and dirt, only boots.
  9. Gvardeetz77 April 7 2020 17: 27 New
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    Something in the offers of shoes for hiking I did not see tarpaulin boots, and I didn’t notice tarpaulin among tourists ... Maybe they don’t know what and use inconvenient trekking boots ...
    1. Andrey VOV April 7 2020 17: 50 New
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      You compared the tourist and the soldier, incorrectly
    2. Azis April 7 2020 18: 01 New
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      You do not confuse tourism with service. A tourist does not need to take off his shoes for more than a day + trekking shoes are several times more expensive than the mass army. Also give an example that tourists do not walk on the beach in boots ... Beach, beach, strife
      1. abrakadabre April 7 2020 20: 50 New
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        A tourist does not need to take off his shoes for more than a day + tracking shoes are several times more expensive than the mass army.
        It happens often. If we are talking about sports, not beach / recreational and sightseeing. Another thing is that with very rare situations, exceptions, it is not a problem for a tourist to keep an eye on the change of socks, drying their legs and so on. And wallowing / crawling in the mud is a force majeure for the tourist.
        He served in the army - went in kirzach, I have a rich tourist and mountaineering experience. There is nothing to compare. For the mass army I will vote for the boots. For special forces and short exits, I think expensive and correct shoes are better.
        The cost of a good sports hiking shoe is ten times higher than army boots. Depreciation is the same, maintainability is ten times worse than that of boots. Climbing shoes are 3-5 times more expensive than tourist ones.
        1. pmkemcity April 8 2020 05: 54 New
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          Quote: abrakadabre
          The cost of a good sports hiking shoe is ten times higher than army boots. Depreciation is the same, maintainability is ten times worse than that of boots. Climbing shoes are 3-5 times more expensive than tourist ones.

          Yes, it’s not even the price. Membrane bots live for two or three days, then a week they need to bring to life. Not only in the field, even in a barracks, this is impossible. Kirzachi, of course, sucks - the last century. We need a “nano-boot” and a “nanoporyanka”. Lightweight, comfortable, warm. In his hectic civilian life, he came to this combination - an EVA boot without a liner (!) And membrane socks. This is from +5 to -15. Below, there is no alternative to felt boots - I wear a felted stocking in a leather boot. For the "Siberian summer" it would be nice to have a leather bottom and cordura top instead of a tarpaulin, but for some reason there are none. Bertsa is a show off, perhaps, that in mountains?
          1. abrakadabre April 8 2020 11: 22 New
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            Yes, it’s not even the price.
            If you need to wrap a company of special forces, then I agree. But if you need to dress a million-strong army, and then also a few waves of mobilization in a big (and even in a regional) war, then the price of the issue goes sharply to the first lines of importance. Along with ease of use and maintainability in the field.
            Yes, a good hiking / climbing boot is very, VERY durable and comfortable. But in comparison it is indecently expensive. And ... the boot can be repaired with quite simple and cheap means. But modern tourist / climbing shoes in tent conditions are almost impossible to fix. Unless the seam threads are frayed. But the firmware immediately completely eliminates the waterproof. In terms of wear resistance, I’ll say this if sports shoes are as much worn as an army boot, that is 365 (days) / 16-24 (h), then expensive branded shoes last on average for a year. Like the incomparably cheaper tarpaulin boot. Cheap Chinese / Turkish and other shoes are a pure lottery: it can fall apart in a week, or it can walk as a brand.
            And still do not forget about the mobilization stock, the simplicity of production in wartime conditions. All modern synthetic materials very quickly (in comparison with leather and tarpaulin) lose their superproperties during long-term and even medium-term storage. Therefore, for example, no normal climber will use the rope as the main one if it has lain for about 10 years. Even if it was stored in ideal conditions. Maximum - on the railing. Because the synthetic threads of which it is made begin to degrade over time and the rope loses strength from 30 to 60%, as well as elasticity.
            Membrane bots live for two or three days, then a week they need to bring to life.
            Freshly bought membrane bots live well and come to life overnight in a tent. If in cold weather, then spending the night with the owner in the sleeping bag.
        2. Azis April 8 2020 17: 32 New
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          Quote: abrakadabre
          It happens and often ... for a tourist is Force Majeureohms.
          That is what he meant. He climbed mountains in trikons, vibrams, berets, reps / guanotopes and kirzachs. And for boots you still need laces, insoles, socks, when for boots, in fact, only dry and properly wound footcloths. "If money is preserved - kirsa nafig is not needed" (c)
    3. awdrgy April 7 2020 23: 00 New
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      So I didn’t meet in the “offer” shoes for the throw march of throwing “uncomfortable tracking boots” and didn’t notice among my colleagues (But I'm sure they hid them under footcloths)))
    4. ROMAN R April 8 2020 00: 27 New
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      Tourists salabons do not understand their happiness!
  10. Amateur April 7 2020 17: 30 New
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    The author clearly never heard the word "Kearza".
    According to the archives of the Polytechnical Museum, Mikhail Pomortsev is considered the inventor of the tarpaulin. Since 1903, Pomortsev began to conduct experiments with rubber substitutes, and only with those whose components were produced in Russia. Already in 1904, he received a waterproof tarpaulin, successfully tested as a material for covers for artillery pieces and fodder bags. Work on waterproof fabrics prompted the scientist to search for such a material for impregnation, which would impart skin properties to the tissues. Mikhail Mikhailovich found such a composition of the emulsion, consisting of a mixture of egg yolk, rosin and paraffin, impregnated with it a multilayer cotton fabric [7] and received a fabric that is impervious to water, but permeable to air - a combination of properties characteristic of natural skin and determining its hygienic qualities . The resulting material was named “kirsa”. The fabric was successfully tested in 1904 during the Russo-Japanese War as a material for the manufacture of horse ammunition, bags, cases, etc.

    And he didn’t wear the canvas boots “SINGLE TIME!”
  11. gabonskijfront April 7 2020 17: 38 New
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    I urgently was in virgin snow on virgin snow, immediately changed into shoes like a Vietnamese warrior. He also stole at the warehouse of NZ, breeches and gymnast from the Great Patriotic War, it is difficult to imagine a practical outfit, comfortable, fashionable and just beautiful. When I returned to the unit , the foreman refused, even an old substitution, and I still stumbled about this for a week, until the kambat saw and forced the foreman to change my clothes.
  12. Million April 7 2020 17: 50 New
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    Kirzachi + footcloths will defeat a NATO soldier)
    1. Lamata April 7 2020 18: 31 New
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      And the boot could be pulled into a negligent spirit or sentinel)))
  13. akinfeeffr April 7 2020 17: 51 New
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    He served in short-cutter shorts with straps on the top, practical, convenient. Bertsa were dressed in oval and on demobilization.
    1. Lamata April 7 2020 18: 31 New
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      And where did they give boots, Airborne Forces?
      1. akinfeeffr April 7 2020 19: 16 New
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        In Border Troops
        1. Lamata April 7 2020 19: 22 New
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          Yes, they came across them in Turkmenistan, like ordinary boots were, although I will not dispute them.
      2. Lopatov April 7 2020 20: 17 New
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        Quote: Lamata
        And where did they give boots, Airborne Forces?

        Everywhere.
        Airborne were lacing
      3. Technician72 April 7 2020 23: 06 New
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        Quote: Lamata
        And where did they give boots, Airborne Forces?

        12 GUMO.
  14. Free wind April 7 2020 17: 59 New
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    Onuchi is a footcloth, Bast slipped on top. All this magnificence was tied with a bast under the lower leg. Windings dangled from boot to shin. Sometimes in documentaries, Sherpas walk in windings nowadays. The bottom of the boot, leather toe and back, top of the canvas. Indians, primitive people, invented moccasins, Poles, Bulgarians - pistons, Czechs. All leather, less wear. We have bast shoes, from which he can protect his leg, he does not protect his leg, he doesn’t let him wear off quickly.
    1. AllBiBek April 7 2020 21: 12 New
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      Well, so what? From the need to wash my feet from dirt and shit every time you go into the hut from the yard.
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        Well, so what? From the need to wash my feet from dirt and shit every time you go into the hut from the yard.

        The barefoot walked around the courtyard until the frost, then in felt boots. Bast shoes - only in the "village council" and the store.
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        And then we didn’t have shit with dirt)
  15. Sergey Averchenkov April 7 2020 18: 03 New
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    Boots, and only boots. Regiment rise - how much will be lacing in time? Only boots and footcloths.
    1. Lamata April 7 2020 19: 48 New
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      Battery rise, what kind of shoes, dived into boots and EVERYTHING
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      You're right!! Having adopted the American fashion, it will reach the first mess and you will have to change shoes on the go.
  16. Ethnarchist April 7 2020 18: 09 New
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    The last Soviet demobilization, an urgent one, served in Turku, but northern Kazakhstan, in winter, boots in the summer and summer mabut boots, in practice it turned out mabut boots! This is the question of practicality .....
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      Turkvo North Kazakhstan !!! but not mistaken. maybe Central Asian
      1. agond April 7 2020 19: 49 New
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        The topic of boots is very interesting and relevant, thanks to the author that he picked it up, and the boots are different, for example, someone tried to sew them, or at least "disassemble" and see what it consists of, /? I didn’t sew myself, but I adapted the yuft boots for hunting, why then? the answer is that one new yuft boot of size 43 weighs 1100-1150 g, while it consists of a dozen parts, about one hundred nails, different, steel, aluminum, but mostly copper alloy, by the way, if we calculate the thermal conductivity of the sole, it turns out that through the nails more heat is lost than through the rest of the sole, since the copper has a thermal conductivity of 380 W / m * and the rubber has 0.25 W / m * .. and if water gets into the boot, then pouring it is then completely impossible, without shaking it, in short I tore off the factory sole and glued soy from micropore and layer leather, the boot began to weigh 750-760 g and it became easier to pour water, so that there was no reason to admire the kirzach or yuft people, how many people froze in them ... by the way, the northern peoples always sewed the boots themselves, (in the Chukchi with a bone needle) then in they literally lived, there are minus 50 in the north, and water in the snow. And in the tsarist army, some officers ordered themselves special boots sewn from one piece of leather with one seam at the back, the so-called "hooks", they were expensive, but worth it ..
  17. Martin April 7 2020 19: 30 New
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    The article does not talk about anything. Where is the analysis of the advantages of the boot over the boot? Where is the analysis of the advantages of the boot over the boot? Where are the comparative advantages and disadvantages of socks and footcloths?
    Single shot.
  18. 113262a April 7 2020 19: 38 New
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    It depends! Mozh, infantry and berets will suit all special forces. I, too, have the experience of wearing the Bundesvenra 14 in 15-2002, and then 2004 (second-hand, but good!) Yes, soundly, but from fuels and lubricants, the handsome men just turned their soles! In old Fritz, between the tread and the leather sole, there is a layer of micropores, it is also softened, Those that are newer, sound, but heavy! Especially when wet! Nebraska trophy TALAN-high-tech, and with CORDURA, is GORTEX, but oak and fragile-thread cut the skin and everything will break apart! And in a tank-tarp with a footcloth and a jumpsuit, it’s just the start! Tighten the trouser leg a little bit! And you won’t catch it, and the earth does not pour in the boot when you dig in. And the burning boot is easy to pull off! But only with kirsa! Yuft and chrome to the enemy for a day! Heavy and when burning, instantly clamp the leg with ankle boot! And they dry for a long time! Although, for 1,5 years, I ran in such a GSVG.
    1. Lamata April 7 2020 19: 49 New
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      And what demobilization from the GUS were in kirzach, MIND IS NOT TENSIBLE))))))))))))))))
  19. faterdom April 7 2020 19: 41 New
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    Best of the best are the boots. Leather, strong, heavy, it is true, but they should knock the door out at once, and give the possible enemy Penderovich handy. The lame people in our country, unfortunately, massively did ... say, so-so, at least Skorokhod, at least Severokhod. The seams in the back were torn, the soles were torn off, for the year for which they were issued they weren’t enough in any way - they had to buy more for their own. Better quality - in private sewing (expensive), those who served in Germany - the boots there were much better.
    Kirza, what can I say - better, of course, bast shoes, but besides the cheapness and possibilities of mass production, there are few pluses.
    1. Lamata April 7 2020 19: 50 New
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      You can’t put on infantry in chrome
  20. rocket757 April 7 2020 19: 45 New
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    And what cool footcloths were issued for the winter !!! After all, they invented special material for them.
    For winter fishing, you will wind them in felt boots ... However, felt boots were also issued on guard, when it was very cold.
    And so, according to the service, it was normal in boots. Although, when quite in the warmest places .... it is better to wear shoes easier.
    1. Lamata April 7 2020 19: 51 New
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      And in the sheepskin coat and felt boots on the tower didn’t stand?))))) There is also a hat, the ears are tied up, this is not a sentinel, bunker, it’s intended))))
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        And in a sheepskin coat and boots on the tower were not?

        I had to guard a couple of times, even in training, to store large arsenal of art weapons. Then they sent us to very far south, VERY FAR. There wasn’t up to sheepskin coats, there was generally only one dress uniform ... oh mother, mother, mother, where is my "panama"!
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    Shoes to the first swamp, wet feet of a soldier is a scribe !!!
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    Two different types of shoes and each has its own advantages and disadvantages. Shoes are comfortable, lightweight, and do not fall. But I can say that from the start, flying into the stretched muddle in boots is not a buzz. You will get confused and that's it, torment yourself to get out. You just get out of the boots, pull them out and crawl out perfectly on your knees and elbows. The main thing is not to lose footcloths. Learned by yourself. wink good
    1. agond April 7 2020 20: 04 New
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      And there are still completely canvas boots, only the rubber sole, of course they are damp, but they do not let water pass, but they dry quickly, faster than any others. in Yaroslavl sew
  23. Mavrikiy April 7 2020 20: 07 New
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    Boots versus boots - the centuries-old evolution of military shoes
    And the age-old blah blah blah. At VO periodically: Footcloths, Kirza, Valenki, Boot. Honestly - thanks! This is correct and important, for the new generation does not see the problems of choice.
    However, after the completion of the accelerated pace of development, the Red Army nevertheless received the very legendary shoes in which it survived the entire Great Patriotic War and reached Berlin.
    Yes, and on potatoes in the 60-70s. students did not contact shoes.
  24. Sklendarka April 7 2020 21: 37 New
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    Quote: DMB 75
    Who was not - that will be, who was - will not forget 730 days in boots! drinks
    Boots should be cleaned in the evening and worn in the morning on a fresh head. Boots are your face.
    There are no narrow boots, there are wrong legs.
    What kind of look do you have, comrade soldier? The boots are not cleaned, the face is unshaven - how small!
    Private comrade, what kind of boots do you have? Heels are stitched to the tip.

    I will continue
    - you can’t shine with your mind, but you must shine with your boot !!!
  25. LKW UE April 7 2020 22: 11 New
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    I think tarpaulin boots are from poverty and disregard for a simple soldier, it is only the bourgeois who can afford the good berets, but with us it will do.
  26. tolancop April 7 2020 23: 01 New
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    EEE, Kamrad, what right now 730 days in boots, moms, folders, mobile phones, something else, and then, in the SA, you answer for yourself, the boys were there.

    Speak the truth. !!!! In CA, mother’s tits were torn off specifically and with the root !!! And they tried to serve as far as possible to drive away from home. Not always happened, but the trend, IMHO, had a place to be. And from my own experience I’ll say that it was better ... it wasn’t so drawn home. And I don’t know about other parts, but to get my leave after a year of service - it was necessary to really try. T.ch. all communication with the "small homeland" is just letters and that's it. The phone is a separate story ... Somewhere the opportunity to call home was (unofficial), but this, IMHO, was rare. In particular, through the communications unit of my unit, most of the garrison's communications went and the guys managed to ring home for the chocolate men. And geography was the whole country, but !!!! except Moscow !!! Muscovites were in flight, as they explained, the signalmen did not risk occupying the line ...
    And now you read: "mobile phones", a year of service, then yes ...., and you think "... so that I live" ... then ....
    1. garri-lin April 7 2020 23: 50 New
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      Well would live, so what? Think about how much life experience brought out of the army. If I had the opportunity to send my son to service on the model of the 70s, I would have done it with pleasure. And let the letter 2 to 3 years once a quarter. But science is for life. and modern year-olds are not even really scared of real time. And again, under mother's guardianship. Which of them will grow? I don’t trust them in Achtung’s trunk. I'm afraid. Litter what on you. Health to you.
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    At the "term" (1983-1985) he managed to wear 4 kinds of boots, the opinion:
    1. Kirzachs are ordinary: for 5 cadet months in training, he changed 3 pairs of heels, flew off for one or two at 3-4 hours of daily drill. Normally they wore out in about a month, but the shaft had to be crumpled into an accordion, it was very tough, the main minus was a terrible "ungulate" appearance. The best footcloths, even in summer - winter ones, from dense bikes, washed several times (excess pile leaves), it is enough to rewind to the dry side every 2-3 hours and there are no problems with wearing;
    2. Cows: too heavy, it is difficult to pick up the leg and it is necessary to go through them for 2-3 months to become comfortable. Indeed, in the autumn-winter, even with constant cleaning and regular grease, they strongly accumulate moisture in the skin and dry for a long time, it is necessary to hammer dry sand inside when drying, otherwise they warp very much;
    3. Officer limps: good in ordinary socks, but only as a daily drill and are categorically not suitable for a field exit. In order not to wrinkle the shafts, a lining was made of thin hard pressboard between the top and the shins lining, we got practically “bottle” boots like the merchants of the first guild with a crease only in the ankle area, looked good like lacquer with good cleaning ...;
    4. For the “field” and the guards, already being the ZKV, he took out awesome boots through the clothing storehouse, he said that the mountain rifle, I don’t know the truth or not, the pair’s weight is less than one kirzach, the sole is about 2 cm thick, elastic but soft, shafts of the type of thin rubberized fabric. Lightweight, comfortable, waterproof, the only drawback - due to poor air circulation, rewinding footcloths at least every two hours for comfort.
  28. ROMAN R April 8 2020 00: 38 New
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    How many lovers of footcloths and boots in the comments! It is strange that no one raised the question of wonderful overcoats and godless fleece and jackets with gortex. It is amazing that people wear special rubber boots for winter fishing designed for cold weather, walking through mud in forests and fishing in rubber boots. In bad weather, in windbreakers and other high-tech membrane clothing. In the mountains, I have never seen anyone in kirsach - everyone has trekking boots. In the summer - crosses, sneakers, low boots and more. Who and where voluntarily carries kirzachi, with the exception of the cases when they got free then?
    1. pmkemcity April 8 2020 06: 38 New
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      It is strange that no one raised the question of wonderful overcoats and godless fleece and jackets with gortex.

      Personally, I only got accustomed to the microfleece, as the first, and he is the second layer. Minus 10, minus 15 and I change all the “chemistry” to a fur flight suit with a jacket, by the way all the “fleece-tinsuleits” turn off sharply. Primoft likes it, but it’s expensive, and a maximum of minus 25 in dvizhuha. Membrane, generally for a very narrow temperature regime - plus five, minus five (only for Europe). And the Pitmen wear tracking boots and two more pairs to them - bots for the parking lot and the Chuni tent, and besides the “flashlights" - gaiters. If a soldier carries all this shnyag with him, then he will have to give out a cart instead of a thing bag.
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        And the Pitmen wear tracking boots and two more pairs to them - bots for the parking lot and the Chuni tent, and besides the “flashlights" - gaiters. If a soldier carries all this shnyag with him, then he will have to give out a cart instead of a thing bag.

        Himself not funny? Chuni, leggings and camp shoes (modern galoshes made of foam rubber) will weigh 1 kg! It's a strange thing, but different specialists and contractors buy them for their money, including tracking boots and socks with different kulmaks or menbrana. But they could wear boots and winter footcloths!
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          Himself not funny? Chuni, leggings and camp shoes (modern galoshes made of foam rubber) will weigh 1 kg!

          It’s funny. In a week, the entire company will only be wearing the left, with Chuni and leggings and knickers. And a month later, the remains will be collected in a battalion and locked in a barn lock.
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      I won’t say anything good about the overcoat in the Soviet Army; the best of all that I wore in the army was the usual insulated cotton coat. Nobody wears kirzachi in the mountains. Judging by the comments, you, colleague Roman, are absolutely urban people, travel through the villages - you will see. In addition, kirsa is a mobilization leatherette, for the case when you need a lot and cheaply, so as not to feel sorry ...
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        I support. The overcoat (soldier's) is blown through. Pea jacket is a completely different matter !!! In addition to the green pea coat, we also had “blackness” - a set of pea jacket and trousers with cotton underwear. That was the THING .... The lining from the pants, though it was unfastened, otherwise the eggs were fogging. T.ch. an overcoat only for construction, after which to the barracks for dressing in black.
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    No matter what they say, but kirsa !!! Well, who served he knows !!! 27 years have passed and I can still wind my footcloths.

    This year will be 50 years old as footcloths taught to wind. And now I’ll easily wind it up!
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    I changed the first kirzachi after nine months of service and regretted it, then changed it like a seed (there was a good opportunity), constantly got wet and torn only on the road without any tension, and the first got excellent quality and I think it would have served more than one month.
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    In training in the Siberian Military District in the winter they gave out two footcloths. Comfortable and warm.
    And when they went to the guard, they still immersed the boots in boots, plus a sheepskin coat. But in the regiment, when there was one set, the newspaper was wound on footcloths. It was warm...
    But about the overcoat, they raised a topic at VO, I can say that this is the most universal uniform. Rain, mud-dried up, cut off and like new. Yes, and cover yourself in the winter in the bunk it is. It used to be that the strap removed and ...
  32. KOMA April 8 2020 17: 55 New
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    I won’t say anything about kirsa, but in the modern age of high technology I wear Haix ranger BGS (patrol boots of the German border service). Good, soft, waterproof 4 layers of Gorteks, tenacious soles of DAVOS oil-resistant.

    And Haix nepal pro official shoes of the French army since 2015, stuffed with the most modern technology, very good, Vibram sole, oil-resistant, anti-puncturing, non-slip.

    My wife wears the Meidel Combat PRO GTX French army mountain boots, good but very tough. own sole, slippery on ice.

    In winter I wear LOWA innox ice gtx, lightweight and excellent outsole Vibram elica g3

    Soon I will do a review on shoes if anyone is interested.
    1. LKW UE April 8 2020 19: 05 New
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      Of course, make it interesting, otherwise the grandfathers gathered, overgrown with moss and let's nostalgic for SA and kirzach with overcoats. I understand that kirzach and overcoats in warehouses are still probably 100 years ahead.
      I repeat, there is no way for normal army berets to be made and given out to soldiers, so they are in mammoth skins, oh, sorry overcoats and kirzachs who are offered to wear 100 years ago.
      1. agond April 8 2020 22: 11 New
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        The dispute that it’s better to have boots or berets for a long time, and opinions differ, partly this can be explained by the fact that few people saw really good boots, however as well as berets, and even fewer who wore them far from civilization, by the way small nations they don’t wear berets at all, but take history, nobles massively wore boots, although they rode on horseback or on carts, kings on statues and paintings in boots, Stalin and his entourage walked around the Kremlin in boots, doctors in the past recommended that sick and elderly people walk around the house in boots, why, simply if everything is done correctly, then the boots give a different level of protection for the legs and level of comfort,. If a staunch supporter of the berets sew real boots, his opinion can radically change, and in general they need to be given more serious attention, because, as they said, not every soldier shoots in the war, but the one who shoots, it’s not every day, but everyone walks in boots every day ..
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          If a staunch supporter of berets sew real boots, his opinion can radically change

          The key word “if” - kirsa is not normal, it’s cheap and massive, it drove me out of poverty during the war, then riveted forward for centuries. In all the armies of the world they go in berets and do not bathe, and we have mass psychosis, if we make normal boots, then the meaning of mass and cheapness is lost in them, again, the berets win.
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            I propose to compare the obviously good boots and berets with the same bootleg height
            And so the pros of boots
            1 boots will be easier than berets
            2 boots will be simpler and more technologically advanced, as they consist of fewer parts
            3 boots, unlike berets, have a smaller external surface area, so they will have less heat loss
            4 boots are easier to keep clean as there is no lacing and less dirt sticks to them
            5 boots take off and put on faster
            Boots have only one minus
            1 berets better and more accurately fixed on the leg and therefore it is easier and faster to run in them.
            With all this, we do not sew boots with ankle to the knee.
            Therefore, in my opinion, it was more correct to walk around the territory of a military unit in low shoes or sneakers, and in a field in boots.
            On the issue of price, it is customary to think that a well-known saog can only be sewn from leather, ideally from one piece, yes it is, but very functional and cheap boots can be sewn entirely from good tarpaulin, (only one sole from rubber) they will get wet as well as tarpaulin, but they will dry out very quickly.
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      It will be very interesting. thank
  33. KOMA April 10 2020 20: 04 New
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    And so the pros of boots
    1 boots will be easier than berets
    2 boots will be simpler and more technologically advanced, as they consist of fewer parts
    3 boots, unlike berets, have a smaller external surface area, so they will have less heat loss
    4 boots are easier to keep clean as there is no lacing and less dirt sticks to them
    5 boots take off and put on faster
    Boots have only one minus
    1 berets better and more accurately fixed on the leg and therefore it is easier and faster to run in them.

    1. The main weight of the berets is the sole. At the sole of modern berets there is a cushioning layer (anti-shock) so that when jumping from a high height or with a strong blow, keep the foot, the plate protecting the foot from puncture, nails and other elements affecting the foot, a pump for moisture withdrawal into the tongue of the tibia and pumping air inside the boot, a toe and a heel reinforced with special plastic are attached to the sole to protect the foot from bumps and drops of various objects, plus a rubber belt is glued to the sole that protects the seam at the junction with the sole from water leakage. If such a sole is attached to the boot, then the weight of the boot will change greatly.
    2. Ankle boots are tailored from a single piece of leather, with one seam on the heel, and for technological reasons excuse me for smoking boots.
    3. Layers of goretex and tinsulate can easily tolerate up to -60 degrees.
    4. In the 21st century, it’s good enough to take care of shoes, kerem and impregnation, no matter what the dirt remains on the word at all, just chatting with a shoe in a puddle is enough.
    5. Fast lacing systems, dual-zone lacing, etc. make the process almost instantaneous, and removal is definitely faster than boots.
    Further, in general, there are some pluses, convenience, reliability, comfort, absolute waterproofness (4 layers of hydratex, you can crawl through marshes for 6-7 hours, the main thing is not to scoop up.), Benzo oil is resistant sole, self-cleaning tread, tenacious, etc.
    The only minus of the berets is the price, modern army models cost from 200-500 euros. Well, you need to wear boots with a membrane only with a special tracking toe that contains CoolMax fibers or merino wool.
  34. Lynx2000 April 10 2020 23: 44 New
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    Ideal shoes do not exist and universal for the army too ...
    There are downsides and pros to using boots or boots.
    In Russia, boots were traditional shoes.
    I grew up in the countryside, wore grandfather's long boots.
    He knew how to wind footcloths since childhood.
    According to my feelings, the boots are heavy, the leather sole is slippery, the bootleg saved the foot from the sliding blow of the ax, the foot does not sweat, it does not freeze in winter, it is uncomfortable to wear from someone else’s foot.
    The tarpaulin boots are less durable, in the place of the boot of the bootleg with a toe and heel, folds are formed that are wiped, it is cold in winter.
    I have a high rise in the foot, size 43-44 boots are crushing. Good boots, like a suit, are made to order.
    My father worked for some time as a mountain tourism instructor in the Altai Mountains, often went hiking with him.
    I will say that for service in the mountains, boots with ankle fixation are most preferable to boots, taking into account the load on the foot of the combat unit.
    From my own experience of service, I will give preference to boots, even if to tarpaulin berets (crocodiles).
    KMB wore tarpaulin boots with straps on the top. The boots are sewn on the average soldier. Someone has a wide foot, a high rise, a shin is thin or full, hence squeezing and rubbing arise.
    Under combat conditions, puddles, streams and ditches, according to the law of meanness, are usually higher than the ankle. In this case, the water will surely be scooped up in boots, you cannot run with water in the boot. Shoes laced in this case are better, running - checked. We wore boots with footcloths.
    In the field, when moving in a forest or field, you can damage your legs from lying branches, tangled grass or rhizomes in the area of ​​the toe, lifting the foot. In this case, it doesn’t matter in your boots or boots.
    Regarding the dirt, Russian black soil or Chechen dirt - the outsole comes off at a time. For these cases, rescue - rubber boots or stockings from the OZK.
    It is of course beneficial for the state to sew cheap tarpaulin boots with tarpaulin tops.
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    What they just do not write for a red word -
    real work of art


    Where is art there? "Product of high technology" wrote something ...
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      a pump for removing moisture into the tongue of the tibia and pumping air inside the boot,

      I have never heard of berets with a pump for pumping water and subsequent purging, I wonder how it works, and the question is, can gortex take moisture out if there is water on the outside of the berets?
      1. KOMA April 12 2020 23: 35 New
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        Almost all Haix berets have the HAIX MSL system PU, HAIX PU Dampfunngskell systems - these systems are responsible for pumping water from the membrane into the tongue and perforated back, and the HAIX Climate system is responsible for pumping air inside the boot.
        Gortex does not remove water, but removes steam. Steam is diverted to the outside of the membrane and then exits through hydrophobic skin. If there is water outside, then the steam remains between the membrane and the skin, and turns into water, for this it is necessary to divert this water into the tongue and back.
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          I expected to see in your berets a rubber pump with a valve for pumping water and a pump for purging air, but everything turned out to be built on membranes, ...
          in general, stores have such a variety of berets, but mostly shit, two of them, old and new, it’s very difficult for new ones to wash the sole, even with a washcloth under running hot water, only a screwdriver can completely dig out the dirt from the gaps between the “lugs” and this despite the fact that I downloaded them on a tape machine !!! Looking at many models of berets, I want to knock on the heads of those who invent and sew them, the tread is like on a tractor wheel, the dirt drags into the barracks with shovels, the sole itself is thick, by the way this increases the height of the soldier’s dimensions, probably it would be easier for the enemy to aim at him and that the fighter himself would often hit his head on the low ceilings in the conveyors.
  36. Chaldon48 April 14 2020 09: 44 New
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    In my opinion it is necessary to differentiate the use of army shoes and use sopagi and shoes where it is profitable and convenient.
  37. IL-64 April 14 2020 16: 48 New
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    What is the article about?