“The most up-to-date technology”: Mi-35M helicopters tested in Serbia

Pilots from the 714th anti-tank squadron of the 98th air brigade of the Serbian Armed Forces tested in the Mi-35 case. On April 5, the helicopter crew conducted firing at a firing range at ground targets that mimic the armored vehicles of a conditional enemy. The local military was pleased with the results.

As the publication Evening news”, The head of the military department, Alexander Vulin, who observed the fulfillment of the combat mission, said that the most modern equipment in the hands of Serbian pilots showed their readiness to defend the country without“ any compromises ”.

All members of the Serbian Armed Forces are doing everything possible and are able to maintain the independence of our country. All our combat teams and all our fighting techniques are at a master level.

- noted the Minister.

As a means of destruction, the Ataka guided missiles and the 23-mm GSh-23L cannon were used. They were highly praised by the Serbian military.

It is a wonderful feeling to work with such a rocket, even in difficult weather conditions, as they were today. But it turned out that the rocket meets all our requirements

- explained Lt. Col. Dobrosava Drndarevich, commander of the 714th squadron.

As the Serbian publication explained to its readers, the Mi-35s were put into operation at the end of last year. At the same time, the supplier of rotorcraft was not named.

The crews of Mi-35M helicopters from the 714th anti-tank helicopter squadron of the 98th air force and air defense of Serbia destroyed the conditional enemy’s positions with Ataka-M anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs) and the GSh-23L 23-mm gun at the Pasuljanske livade training ground . pic.twitter.com/cZuG5LCgnU

- SwankyStas (@StasSwanky) April 5, 2020

Comments

[APASUS]

I look at the military there was an analog of a handshake, in the video 0,05

[Cowbra]

From the film "Do not threaten South Central ..."

[Evil543]

This is now true for coronovirus

[Horst78]

Quote: APASUS

I look at the military there was an analog of a handshake, in the video 0,05

My friends and I call it "Italian". Better than OPEC + (in feet)

[svp67]

At the same time, the supplier of rotorcraft was not named.

Not really found in the field?

"The latest technology"

I wonder what would they say after testing the Mi-28 and Ka-52?

[Cowbra]

Quote: svp67

Not really found in the field?

Hindus recently bought Miles for Afghanistan ... From the manufacturer ... In Belarus

[svp67]

Quote: Cowbra

Hindus recently bought Miles for Afghanistan ... From the manufacturer ... In Belarus

After the large ocean shrimps caught in the Belarusian Sea, I won't be surprised at anything ... By the way, this also suggests that these "bears" are powered by Motor Sich motors.

[venik]

Quote: svp67

By the way, this also suggests that these "bears" are equipped with Motor Sich motors

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This is what a FARROW ??? On the Mi-35M (which can be seen from the non-retractable landing gear, and shortened wings with 4 pylons instead of 6), there are precisely the Russian Klimov VKD-2500-II TVAD!
Teach materiel!

[svp67]

Quote: venik

This is what a FARROW ???

Why suddenly scared ????? It was about the "Belarusian" "Mi" purchased by India for Afghanistan. And there is no talk about the Mi-35

[Insurgent]

Quote: Cowbra

Hindus recently bought Miles for Afghanistan ... From the manufacturer ... In Belarus

In the Postavy district, a helicopter of the State Border Committee crashed with journalists on board, 5 people died

October 20 2011

Read more: https://news.tut.by/society/255280.html


I correspond with a friend in Belarus. He served on the border. And here is what he wrote about this:

Three bought them (Helicopters of the brand "Eurocopter") After the disaster, 2 accidentally burned out.

The flyers themselves burned the helicopters after that. And, lo and behold. State Border Service Purchased Bel Helicopters in Germany

And mi17 was not buy fate .. Ended Lukas

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Cowbra

At the manufacturer ... In Belarus

only there was not a word "from the manufacturer", this is your imagination.

in March 2018, Afghanistan, India and Belarus signed a tripartite memorandum of understanding regarding the supply of the Afghan Air Force with four Mi-24 type combat helicopters. According to the agreement, India, at its own expense, will acquire four Mi-24 helicopters from the presence in Belarus and will pay for their repair and delivery for the Afghan Air Force.

[Cowbra]

Quote: Gregory_45

only there was not a word "from the manufacturer", this is your imagination.

It’s even funnier - the owners forbade Indians to buy in the Russian Federation for Afghanistan, so that the Russian Federation did not get the money. Og. Type bought a product from the manufacturer, which is not sanctioned! True, the helicopters are still Russian, and Belarus is still under sanctions and the Russian sanctioned product was bought.
So I said easy again - so as not to humiliate the Indians

[Grigory_45]

sort of like the situation is like this. They arm the Afghan army of the United States, and they initiated the abandonment of Russian helicopters with the replacement of their Black Hawks. The Afghans, on the other hand, were flying and want to continue flying in Milev cars. Hindus and fuss. They generally do not care about any sanctions

[Lipchanin]

Quote: svp67

Not really found in the field?

In "Voentorg" bought

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Lipchanin

In "Voentorg" bought

Nearly. Four Mi-35M in December last year delivered Russia.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: svp67

I wonder what would they say after testing the Mi-28 and Ka-52?

Yes, what our pilots say

[Zaurbek]

The Serbs had some sort of analogue of Spike .... maybe you can integrate on Mi?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Zaurbek

The Serbs had some sort of analogue Spike

there are only two serial analogues of Spike - American Javelin and French MMP. Is the French complex yuzali? Although, according to open sources, the French did not supply ATGM data to anyone other than their native Moscow Region.

The Serbs have Malyutka modernized on their own, as well as the Bumbar ATGM (semi-automatic command guidance system for wires) and ALAS (actually, a cruise missile controlled by fiber optic cable) developed by them

[Zaurbek]

Most likely ALAS ....

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gregory_45

ALAS (actually a fiber optic cruise missile)

Ten-kilometer RALAS
Twenty five-kilometer ALAS-A
Sixty-kilometer ALAS-B

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Spade

Ten-kilometer RALAS
Twenty five-kilometer ALAS-A
Sixty-kilometer ALAS-B

only here the ATGM data are not Spike analogs. No principle shot-forgot. Ammunition must be aimed at the target using a TV camera

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gregory_45

only here the ATGM data are not Spike analogues. No principle shot-forgot.

Serbs mention possible automatic guidance on a captured target.
Like Spike NLOS
How this is decided is incomprehensible. However, the similarity of principles of combat use is evident

[svp67]

Quote: Gregory_45

Ammunition must be aimed at the target using a TV camera

But does one of Spike's modifications not work the same way?

[Zaurbek]

25km also with fiber optic cable?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Zaurbek

25km also with fiber optic cable?

judging by the available descriptions of the complex, and oddly enough, yes - 25 km is also cable. Both the camera image and the missile control signals are transmitted through the cable

[Zaurbek]

Forgot Chinese systems.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Zaurbek

The Serbs had some sort of analogue of Spike .... maybe you can integrate on Mi?

The Mi-35M has a hereditary dislike for the hanging mode.
And Serbian "analogues of Spike" cannot live without a fiber-optic cable

[svp67]

Quote: Spade

The Mi-35M has a hereditary dislike for the hanging mode.

It’s necessary for a helicopter to get used to working with hovering, or to wean a rocket from a fiber-optic cable, switching to a radio command

[knn54]

The only universal combat helicopter in the world.

[Zaurbek]

Concept ... but 99% of the use, as a battle. The American approach won:
Iroquois + Cobra.

[svp67]

Quote: knn54

The only universal combat helicopter in the world.

And there is another Mi-8 AMSHT, here is a station wagon, so a station wagon ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: svp67

And there is another Mi-8 AMSHT, here is a station wagon, so a station wagon

The Mi-8 AMShT resembles the first versions of the "twenty-four", when it was not yet a "crocodile" and bore the designation Mi-24A ("veranda"). And remember why they began to redo it ...

[not main]

The Mi-8 has always been the veranda, and the Mi-24A was called a "glass" because of the faceted cockpit.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: non-primary

The Mi-8 has always been the veranda, and the Mi-24A was called a "glass" because of the faceted cockpit

thank you for the amendment. In addition, there is another mistake in the comment - there should be a Mi-8AMTS

[sanik2020]

Hindus recently bought Miles for Afghanistan ... From the manufacturer ... In Belarus

It’s not true, they were only being repaired in Belarus.

After the large ocean prawns caught in the Belarusian Sea, I won’t be surprised at anything ...

While you are playing wonder games, people know that Belarusian labels are glued to imported shrimp by those who are under the roof of the police and the Plywood Match Base.

I correspond with a friend in Belarus. He served on the border. And here is what he wrote about this:

Three bought them. After the disaster, 2 accidentally burned out.

The flyers themselves burned the helicopters after that. And, lo and behold. State Border Service Purchased Bel Helicopters in Germany
And mi17 was not buy fate .. Ended Lukas

You were deceived, one crashed and the rest passed to the Ministry of Emergencies. There are no turntables in the Belarusian border troops.

[Chaldon48]

May God grant that the Syrian pilots maintain high performance in battle.

[Jack O'Neill]

“The most up-to-date technology”: Mi-35M helicopters tested in Serbia

Pilots from the 714th anti-tank squadron of the 98th air brigade of the Serbian Armed Forces tested in the Mi-35 case. On April 5, the helicopter crew fired at ground targets at the firing range, simulating the armored vehicles of a conditional enemy. The local military was pleased with the results.

[bogart047]

all this is pointless. Who did Serbia fight with? Around NATO. If anything, then neither helicopters nor planes will help. Trample like Yugoslavia. A waste of money on such weapons. It is necessary to review the defensive doctrine in the direction of guerrilla warfare and resp. weapons.

[parkello]

it is a pity that so far the Mi-28 could not buy. they would love him too. Mi-35M is a universal machine. And Mi-28 is sharpened for the destruction of equipment, it has more potential of course. but maybe they will still get them. they just have an army very poor. and so they are inborn warriors. but even in this provision they think of the people, do not rob, although they are in dire need. the main thing is that there would be no war, the rest will be gathered, bought.

[Izotovp]

Excuse me: in what business did they test them? The training is, of course, good, but it is not quite the same as in a real combat CASE. And Syria is a bright and fresh example of this.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

(ATGM) “Attack-M” is still outdated, we need a more modern ATGM, an analogue of the American AGM-114 “Hellfire” with an active seeker, so that after launch the helicopter can maneuver immediately and not hang in the air in one place waiting for a missile strike ground equipment.

[not main]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

(ATGM) “Attack-M” is still outdated, we need a more modern ATGM, an analogue of the American AGM-114 “Hellfire” with an active seeker, so that after launch the helicopter can maneuver immediately and not hang in the air in one place waiting for a missile strike ground equipment.

At the expense of ATGM "Attack" perhaps I agree, tk. this is the modernization of "Shturm-V", but I disagree about hovering! Of course, there is such an ATGM launch mode, but it is not the main one. The main launch mode from the GP (horizontal flight), while the helicopter can maneuver both in height and in course up to 30 degrees. Of course this is not a lot, but this is no longer a hanging target!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

At the expense of ATGM "Attack" perhaps I agree, tk. this is the modernization of "Shturm-V", but I disagree about hovering! Of course, there is such an ATGM launch mode, but it is not the main one. The main launch mode from the GP (horizontal flight), while the helicopter can maneuver both in height and in course up to 30 degrees. Of course this is not a lot, but this is no longer a hanging target!

Anyway, the maneuver is severely limited by the fact that the target should be constantly in direct line of sight, which means that if there is any kind of air defense in that area, it can easily hit our helicopter.

I think the number of targets fired at the same time at the US helicopter with AGM-114 "Hellfire" is much higher than that of ours with ATGM "Attack".

With the AGM-114 Hellfire, the helicopter works like a dash, capture - shot (rocket launch), capture - shot, but you can’t do it on ours, keep it on our target, wait for it to fly, hit and then just choose the next one the target, and the enemy is already aware that our turntable is in the air and can respond.

And if we had a semblance of the AGM-114 Hellfire, it would be possible to rise due to some kind of elevation, attack targets and immediately hide in the folds of the terrain, or move away from a missile attack at extremely low altitude, which would significantly increase attack efficiency and survivability helicopter in battle.

In general, if you don’t tell us, we need an analog of the AGM-114 Hellfire as quickly as possible.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

rather than hanging in the air in one place waiting for a rocket to hit ground equipment.

Mi-24 does not really favor the hanging mode. Therefore, in any case, there will be shooting from horizontal flight. Moreover, it is preferable and for reasons not to be a static target.
Work from the hover mode is a necessary measure for launching ATGMs with wire control and having a limited range

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Well, you will agree that if we had an analogue of the AGM-114 Hellfire, the effectiveness of the helicopter and the Mi-35 and Mi-28 would be several orders of magnitude higher. The attack speed of several targets will increase - jumped out - discovered a group of targets - capture - fire - capture fire ... and so he shot a bunch of missiles at a pile of targets, while the first missile reaches, the helicopter is already maneuvering and moving away from a possible return fire. While the enemy understands what happened, our pilots already drink tea at the airport, while the technicians replenish the turntable.

And now on our helicopter in the same scenario, until the rocket reaches the target, you will not let the second go, and after the first hit the enemy will understand what he is dealing with and will answer or hide if possible.

[Ros 56]

It is good when a potential ally respects our weapons. Only the numbering of the parts from where a small country has such large numbers is surprising.