Ultraliberals Concerned About Why “Sole Leader” Has Transferred More Authority to Regional Authorities

Ultraliberals Concerned About Why “Sole Leader” Has Transferred More Authority to Regional Authorities

In the ultra-liberal circles of the country, the very ones that are “united” by the idea of ​​“anyone, just not Putin,” they now criticize the president’s position, in which he gave the regional leadership the right to independently (on the basis of the local epidemiological situation) decide on self-isolation, quarantine and etc. Those who constantly insisted on the need on the part of the president to share part of their powers and not concentrate power in one hand, suddenly became concerned about the issue of increasing the level of powers of regional authorities.


One of the concerns about this turned out to be the notorious columnist for Echo of Moscow, Yulia Latynina. Ms. Latynina was suddenly disappointed by the fact that the president enabled the regions to independently monitor the situation with the incidence rate and make decisions on this basis.

Latynina:

For 20 years we have been explained that we have such a large country that it should have one single leader, that he is a super-duper, you cannot do without him. And suddenly, at a critical moment - “let the governors decide”.

So, people like Ms. Latynina, for the same 20 years, explained that our country, with its federal structure, needs decentralization, parity of the authorities, and then suddenly they remembered the "only national leader."

At the same time, ultra-liberal circles cannot be determined in any way, for example, by the role of Sergei Sobyanin in this situation. Some call him “a sudden crisis manager,” to whom the supreme power “is ready to shift all responsibility in case of failure.” Others believe that this is the mayor of Moscow "he decided to take advantage of the situation and drag the imperious blanket over himself."
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  1. Teberii April 5 2020 10: 24 New
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    They gave it, but they are independent if they are appointed from the Kremlin. They know what it is or run like some.
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        1. Svarog April 5 2020 11: 06 New
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          Quote: Antique
          And our rights and obligations remain with us.
          And we will definitely use them in the next election.

          Yes, we don’t have any rights .. only duties .. It will be reset to zero now and will continue to ruin everything ..
          1. Chervonny April 5 2020 12: 51 New
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            what are the rights of ordinary citizens? we have one right to extras in elections.
            1. krot April 5 2020 19: 33 New
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              but again the people will suffer.

              Everything is bad for you and the people must suffer for sure. Without this, you will not have life. I think you and similar liberal saboteurs of any undertakings have long been calculated and at the right time wait for the guests ..
              1. krot April 6 2020 11: 18 New
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                I wonder why they demolished the comments of the liberal user? Are not the moderators worried that they will copy it from the special services IP? So deleting a comment will not help this)
            2. Blondy April 7 2020 05: 11 New
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              Yes, of course, individual rights, etc. etc. But, as they say: in each hut there are rattles with their cockroaches. And, here the community has the right to survive - so that all individuals, according to the unified safety rules, under one comb - otherwise we’ll die, with all our rattles and cockroaches.
          2. fyvaprold April 5 2020 14: 30 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Yes, we don’t have any rights .. only duties ..

            And what are your responsibilities? In kamenti crap and throw tantrums? laughing
            Quote: Svarog
            It will be reset to zero and will continue to ruin everything ..

            Well, you are a noble creator. laughing Have you ever made a birdhouse in your own life? Something I doubt it very much. laughing
          3. Machito April 5 2020 14: 44 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: Antique
            And our rights and obligations remain with us.
            And we will definitely use them in the next election.

            Yes, we don’t have any rights .. only duties .. It will be reset to zero now and will continue to ruin everything ..

            Vladimir, it was not he who reset, it was he who reset us.
        2. Paranoid50 April 5 2020 11: 44 New
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          Quote: Antique
          And we will definitely use them in the next election.

          However, users. laughing laughing laughing
        3. Malyuta April 5 2020 11: 58 New
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          Quote: Antique
          If you live in the image of a Hero, then the Hero must be in real life. And not in virtual. Flying with Siberian Cranes is fun. But to behave confidently in difficult days for the country,

          All this is a theater of the absurdity, in which citizens believed, there is nothing, neither a hero, nor Siberian Cranes, nor amphora, but the Kursk was there and the sailors knocked for several days and only at a depth less than the length of the boat itself, it all started or forgotten. Here is the captain Kolesnikov and the crew of the Heroes, and Shevchuk sang everything correctly, soon everything will come to the surface ..
          1. Squelcher April 6 2020 03: 59 New
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            That Putin personally collapsed the emergency rescue service in the 90s or immediately in 2000s?
            Then the sailors were doomed, there was no technical opportunity to save, but conclusions were drawn.

            After the death of Kursk, the Tiger, Falcon, Obzor-150, Venom remote-controlled underwater vehicles were purchased and delivered to the fleets, designed to search and examine underwater objects located on the ground, as well as for various underwater technical work.
        4. YOUR April 5 2020 12: 13 New
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          He expressed dissatisfaction with the fact that they could not curb the epidemic, special dissatisfaction with Sobyanin and immediately the number of cases began to decline. There were 3 of them on the 771rd, the 4th was already 582, tomorrow we will find out about an even greater decline.
          As for the transfer of powers, one needs to look at the Constitution, not only the rights are clearly indicated there, but first of all the duties of the President. And so he hid in his NovoOgorevo or where he sits there and his nose does not seem. This is strange.
          And the law that he signed on April 1, hehe, a joker, however, on allowing the FSO to use military equipment and weapons without restrictions and without regard to the damage caused. This is generally something beyond. Apparently, some progress is going on in their deck.
          1. Lopatov April 5 2020 12: 25 New
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            Quote: YOUR
            And so he hid in his NovoOgorevo or where he sits there and his nose does not seem.

            Does the surname Protsenko say nothing to you?
            I understand that you will not believe the “Kremlin propaganda”. Here is a link to an absolutely anti-Putin resource:
            https://www.dw.com/ru/путин-перешел-на-дистанционный-режим-работы-из-за-коронавируса/a-52980667
            1. YOUR April 5 2020 13: 40 New
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              How many such assumptions I have read in 20 years, can not be counted.
              But I believe if you write whether Putin has a wife and who she is.
            2. YOUR April 5 2020 14: 00 New
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              And by the way. Let me remind you that Peskov of the day for 3 said that Putin was leaving for self-isolation. Prior to this, such a word did not flash at all.
              I read what you suggested. And what's so terrible. In addition to hiding, he sits somewhere, doesn’t allow anyone to himself and every day tests are done to him.
              Tell how ordinary citizens do tests?
              First they take an analysis, they call it a biomaterial fence, I don’t know what it is plucked out, but such a definition, then they send it to the preliminary analysis laboratory, if they get a positive result, they send it to the laboratory for Siberia and the Far East in Novosibirsk, for the European part in Moscow. From the material you proposed, it is clear that he is doing some kind of tests abroad, fast.
              1. Dimy4 April 5 2020 14: 34 New
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                Besides hiding sitting somewhere ...

                Under the table and everything tongue shows.
              2. New Year day April 5 2020 19: 15 New
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                Quote: YOUR
                Sands of the day for 3 said that Putin is leaving for self-isolation.

                I went into isolation today, and Peskov said nothing about me laughing
          2. Chervonny April 5 2020 12: 54 New
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            Quote: YOUR
            He expressed dissatisfaction with the fact that they could not curb the epidemic, special dissatisfaction with Sobyanin, and immediately the number of cases began to decline.

            that's what the president’s word does laughing
            statistics for power is always the same with positive dynamics. and the average salary we have hoo what laughing
            1. YOUR April 5 2020 14: 10 New
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              Well, how to react differently.
              771 people got sick
              Speech
              - 550 people got sick
              - 440 people
              Tomorrow will be even less.
              1. Stirbjorn April 5 2020 20: 12 New
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                Quote: YOUR
                Speech
                - 550 people got sick
                - 440 people
                Tomorrow will be even less.

                Speech
                -601 people fell ill
                -582 people
                "Tomorrow" - 658! Somehow the speech didn’t really come out in the end, in this regard
          3. Vitaly Voloshin April 5 2020 13: 38 New
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            Under the guise of coronavirus, the world is being reformatted, and Putin is also seizing the moment to increase Russia's sovereignty. For more details, visit the FKT Altai website
            1. ApJlekuHo April 6 2020 15: 16 New
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              It’s already clear even to a hedgehog in the forest that the corono virus is a fake.
        5. Lopatov April 5 2020 12: 15 New
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          Quote: Antique
          Now, if we assume a hypothetical situation. Putin in Moscow, continues to work actively, takes all responsible decisions by himself, meets with people and gets the worst of it.

          Then you would be the first here to be hysterical about "why he did not self-isolate after the joint of Peskov and contacts with Protsenko and continues to infect the people"
          laughing laughing laughing

          As for me, this was Putin’s main jamb in recent times, this trip to Kommunarka.

          In a crisis, managers must lead, not ride anywhere, taking the brain to lower-level executives and performers with their visits

          Anyone who has served in the army will tell you this.
          1. Chervonny April 5 2020 12: 56 New
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            Stalin in October 1941 did not evacuate anywhere. Stalin in difficult times for the capital was in Moscow. I am sure that Stalin would not have escaped from the capital even in an epidemic.
            1. Lopatov April 5 2020 13: 18 New
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              Quote: Red
              Stalin in October 1941 did not evacuate anywhere.

              From the place of "evacuation of Putin" to the Kremlin, 26 kilometers 8)))))))))))

              And by the way, the "place of evacuation" is located eight kilometers from the "distant summer residence" of Stalin and 17 kilometers from the "near" Approximately between them
              In terms of. the "distant summer residence" was farther from the Kremlin than the "place where Putin hid" 8)))))))))))))

              The globe of Ukraine is power ....
              1. sabakina April 5 2020 13: 50 New
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                Quote: Spade
                Quote: Red
                Stalin in October 1941 did not evacuate anywhere.

                From the place of "evacuation of Putin" to the Kremlin, 26 kilometers 8)))))))))))
                And by the way, the "place of evacuation" is located eight kilometers from the "distant summer residence" of Stalin and 17 kilometers from the "near" Approximately between them
                In terms of. the "distant summer residence" was farther from the Kremlin than the "place where Putin hid" 8)))))))))))))
                Shovels, why this spitch? Do you have evidence that I.V. Stalin in the early days stayed in the country? Yes, on June 22, it was not he who addressed the people, but Molotov. Because he was shocked. He needed to think, to figure out what to do next. Nevertheless, in November, when the enemy was near the walls of the capital, I.V. Stalin was in Moscow. But you don’t have to think much about wandering around in an infectious clothing suit and then sitting in isolation, posing as a guardian for the Russian land. Have you read the law on credit holidays? So, he inspired me with a phrase from a book about Germany after WWII: "Die Germany, but pay."
                1. Malyuta April 5 2020 15: 41 New
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                  Quote: sabakina
                  Shovels, why this spitch? Do you have evidence that I.V. Stalin in the early days stayed in the country?

                  Lopatov is now going to attract everyone for fakes, and sometimes he carries .... mmm ..., well, now fashionable ...., a blizzard.
                2. English tarantas April 5 2020 18: 50 New
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                  Because he was shocked

                  Maybe Stalin’s voice was not joyful or there was no time to read a piece of paper? What shock was he, tired of this song, did everyone know only Stalin was very surprised at the 22nd?
                3. Okolotochny April 6 2020 00: 17 New
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                  Right, in shock, at a loss. But there are no Molotov? So why then sculpt God from Stalin?
                4. ApJlekuHo April 6 2020 15: 20 New
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                  Because he was shocked. He needed to think, to figure out what to do next.

                  And what did he eat for breakfast these days, do you also have information? Or just idiotic fantasies?
          2. Overlock April 5 2020 23: 05 New
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            Quote: Spade
            it was Putin’s main jamb in recent times, this trip to Kommunarka.

            so why did it go there?
        6. Cheldon April 5 2020 12: 22 New
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          Quote: Antique
          During the speech, fear and insecurity were clearly visible on the President's face.

          no physiognomist from you. laughing
          Quote: Antique
          Putin in Moscow, continues to work actively, makes all responsible decisions for himself

          Listed the decisions that “SAM” should take?
          What decisions have not been made?
          Quote: Antique
          dating people

          those. a trip to Kommunarka and a meeting with the head physician, with the sick - is it NOT CARE?
          haven’t met you yet? Oh well.
          1. Chervonny April 5 2020 12: 57 New
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            Quote: Cheldon
            no physiognomist from you.

            krntriki sit in the oligarchy, but in power structures, ruining the country
            1. AU Ivanov. April 5 2020 14: 43 New
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              Strongly collapsed? The Communists in 1991 turned out much better.
              1. vlad106 April 5 2020 22: 12 New
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                Rural medicine is weak
          2. Snarkxnumx April 5 2020 13: 26 New
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            Cheldon. You're a troll. The brain turn on your stone. You will be judged later on those articles that you did not accept about fakes.
          3. ihnovich990 April 6 2020 01: 10 New
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            Cheldon, he is also an African cheldon.
          4. flicker April 6 2020 12: 46 New
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            Quote: Antique
            During the speech, fear and insecurity were clearly visible on the President's face.

            no physiognomist from you.

            Duc, the "antique" himself disappeared somewhere.
            It seems that he felt in one place "fear and insecurity"
            Or the moderators felt ... bully
            1. antique April 6 2020 14: 35 New
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              Quote: flicker
              Duc, the "antique" himself disappeared somewhere.
              It seems that he felt in one place "fear and insecurity"

              No, I do not feel anything. The speech was removed by the moderators. Clearly, hard times for the president. There should not be opposition opinions. The immortal must be alone. Only forward on a white horse with a saber at the ready.
              A piece of text from an old song: "Semyon Budyonny, rode on a white mare ..."
              1. flicker April 6 2020 14: 43 New
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                No, I do not feel anything. The speech was removed by the moderators.

                Why was it removed?
                They usually indicate the reason, as explained?
                1. antique April 6 2020 14: 46 New
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                  Quote: flicker
                  Why was it removed?
                  They usually indicate the reason, as explained?

                  No information. The dark times have come.
                  1. flicker April 6 2020 15: 30 New
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                    The dark times have come.
                    Not yet arrived, but will come soon (as soon as "appearances" reveal grant-eaters, grantosos and other ghouls).
                    And not "dark", but light. And so everything is correct bully
                    1. antique April 6 2020 16: 44 New
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                      Not yet arrived, but will come soon (as soon as "appearances" reveal grant-eaters, grantosos and other ghouls).
                      And not "dark", but light. And so everything is correct
                      Yes, let them reveal to us anyway.
                      But there cannot and should not be one opinion. One person cannot consist of virtues. And you can not cultivate sneakiness and servility. The president is functional, not human.
        7. 16329 April 5 2020 13: 03 New
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          Hurray, another primitive anti-Putin agitation, just confirming the subject of the article.
          The normal coordination of power in a problem situation is stupidly criticized with the transition to personality, such as "he was scared, etc."
          At the same time, reality, adequate actions by the authorities, and world experience are not taken into account
        8. 4ekist April 5 2020 13: 56 New
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          ".... And we all saw a frightened man. Who, with all his actions, shows us that ....." - I do not understand, "we all" - who is this? No need dear subscribe to all. Say: I saw, I didn’t like it, I am against it.
        9. 210ox April 5 2020 14: 12 New
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          We will take advantage ..... But to the vast majority of the population, more than 50% do not even get to the point that they need to go to the polls.
        10. Sergej1972 April 5 2020 14: 19 New
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          I did not see any fright.
        11. fyvaprold April 5 2020 14: 33 New
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          Quote: Antique
          During the speech, fear and insecurity were clearly visible on the President's face.

          Buy glasses and tie with "substances", hallucinations and reference will certainly recede. wassat
        12. forester1971 April 5 2020 19: 25 New
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          Perhaps you have some kind of vision - you see what you would really like. You can blame Putin for anything, but with the “frightened person” and the fact that “fear and uncertainty were being read,” you obviously went too far.
          1. Dart2027 April 5 2020 20: 58 New
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            Quote: Forester1971
            You can blame Putin for anything, but with the “frightened person” and the fact that “fear and uncertainty were being read,” you obviously went too far.

            Putin can be considered anyone, but back in the USSR he was a KGB officer who worked in the GDR. That is, he was in the elite of special services, where you simply won’t get there, and if the USSR had not collapsed, he would now be a retired KGB general. And the presidency did not fall on him from heaven, as there were always more than those who wanted to sit on the throne than thrones.
          2. antique April 5 2020 22: 17 New
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            Quote: Forester1971
            You can blame Putin for anything, but with the “frightened person” and the fact that “fear and uncertainty were being read,” you obviously went too far.

            I didn’t want to insert a picture, but especially for you. What are the emotions on the face of the President?
            1. Dart2027 April 5 2020 22: 54 New
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              Quote: Antique
              embed a picture

              Where is this from?
            2. forester1971 April 6 2020 21: 05 New
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              If you revise your archive with personal videos, you will most likely find footage and worse.
        13. Unic April 5 2020 21: 44 New
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          Where did you see the scared person? Rave..
        14. Overlock April 5 2020 23: 02 New
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          Quote: Antique
          And we all saw a scared man.

          and very tired and sick
      2. 4ekist April 5 2020 11: 23 New
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        Why then are the heads of regions generally needed?
        1. Vadim237 April 5 2020 11: 44 New
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          Why why - absolution is always necessary.
      3. yuliatreb April 5 2020 11: 32 New
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        With a positive outcome of the events, Mr. Chief Liberal will rest on our laurels, with negative our courageous Doctors, although the word positive is now purely negative, and a negative result is already a direct victory.
        1. depressant April 5 2020 12: 15 New
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          I see another aspect.
          Sooner or later, the peak of the epidemic will pass. And then, in accordance with the statistics of morbidity and mortality, the heads of the regions in which medicine is most killed will turn out to be bad. Although, perhaps, these leaders of the night did not sleep and did everything in their power to crush the spread of the virus. Such a trump card in the hands of the president to keep regional governments in check. And already their heads fell and the regional leaders voluntarily ran from their posts. To make guilty means to be submissive to people who may not be at all guilty, but simply victims of existing medical conditions.
          1. Alexander Seklitsky April 5 2020 12: 37 New
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            Of course, the poor and unhappy governors are right. And who destroyed these medical conditions in their regions?
            Quote: depressant
            To make guilty means to be submissive to people who may not be at all guilty, but simply victims of existing medical conditions.
            1. kotvov April 5 2020 12: 48 New
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              .And who ruined these medical conditions in their regions ?,
              And who gave the instructions for this same collapse? Really decided?
              1. Campanella April 5 2020 13: 27 New
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                How could you call the lightest reform the collapse?)))
                He set a solid four for Medvedev!
                In general, it is difficult to look for logic in the actions of the president.
                It is only in the desire to strengthen personal power and keep the country in check. It is not to develop, but to keep in check. And in this sense I see her (logic). In all other respects, this is complete liberalism towards the oligarchs and dictatorship towards the people. The number of responsibilities of the people is growing exponentially.
              2. fyvaprold April 5 2020 14: 38 New
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                Quote: kotvov
                And who gave the instructions for this same collapse?

                So they were ruined by the order “from above”? Something new in liberal delirium. laughing By the way, all the "reforms" have been going on since the liberal camarilla of Boris "Sinemore" Yeltsin.
                1. kotvov April 5 2020 19: 53 New
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                  By the way, all the "reforms" have been going on since the liberal camarilla of Boris "Sinemore" Yeltsin. ,,
                  So on this, is he building centers for him? And as for the liberal, take an interest in what Putin stated on the question of liberals. I see right, wearing glasses, Fyvaprold is looking for where the liberal is wandering around.
              3. AU Ivanov. April 5 2020 14: 47 New
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                Of course, it was Putin who commanded: to ruin medicine, not to repair roads, to steal money. Right in the May decrees and prescribed.
                1. Avior April 5 2020 15: 20 New
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                  If I wrote in May, then this would not be carried out
                  And so it is
                2. New Year day April 5 2020 19: 23 New
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                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  Of course, it was Putin who ordered: medicine - to ruin

                  Health care reform in Russia began in 2010. She suggested optimizing costs through the closure of inefficient hospitals, as well as the use of high-tech medical facilities. At the same time, the salaries of doctors should have increased.
                  The result: no hospitals, no doctors either
                  You want to say that reforms in the country are being carried out bypassing the President? Then why is he needed if he does not lead?
            2. English tarantas April 5 2020 18: 53 New
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              Everything does not always depend on local authorities. How much money will be sent, where will they say to spend ...
          2. Chervonny April 5 2020 12: 59 New
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            Quote: depressant
            To blame means obedient people

            this is their main task. make submissive individuals out of people
          3. 4ekist April 5 2020 14: 05 New
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            "... already rained their heads and regional leaders voluntarily ran from their posts." -

            Some ran, that's good. Random “passengers” are not needed in the power structures, which means that not everyone in the region is good and can take, as they say, gills.
          4. for
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            Quote: depressant
            Although, perhaps, these leaders of the night did not sleep and did everything in their power

            Minister of Health of the Samara Region resigned in connection with the promotion and transfer to Moscow.
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            Quote: depressant
            heads of regions in which medicine is most killed.

            Moscow killed medicine with the hands of Golikova-Skvortsova with the approval of Putin.
            Sobyanin personally boasted in the Moscow City Duma about optimization, and a year later, around the clock, he restored part of the man he had been killed.
            The regions have NO money for medicine. The governors of Lipetsk and Belgorod called on the population and business to REDUCE to fight the virus. This is with enormous gold and foreign exchange reserves, about which we all sing! Do they exist?
      4. Pivot April 5 2020 11: 48 New
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        Yes, it’s complete, if the quarantine were announced or the emergency mode was entered, it’s understandable, and so our rear-wheel drive governor introduced a “quarantine” type of cars not to drive, stay at home and no one canceled taxes, pay rent, pay loans, pay salaries to employees . If our president is so cool and cares about business, he would introduce an emergency mode with all the ensuing consequences, but if he didn’t throw the task to his lackeys in the field, get out like that. Words are not some mats.
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          Quote: Pivot
          tin is complete, if the quarantine were announced or the emergency mode was entered, it’s understandable, and so our rear-wheel drive governor introduced a “quarantine” type of cars not to drive, stay at home and no one canceled taxes, pay rent too, pay loans, pay employees wages.

          You were put in a home prison, but unlike ZKa, you pay for your cell, food, for heat, electricity, gas, and you also pay security guards, security commanders, and the commander of all commanders and keep them with their families, junk, etc. by the way ..
          Agree, cleverly invented?
          1. Pivot April 5 2020 12: 31 New
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            Very cleverly, we have 12 factories in England, they stopped work before the end of April, most workers were fired because of the spread of the virus, workers are automatically charged benefits from the state to stop the factories, then people will again be invited to work when the factories start working. And note that no inquiries or statements are required from people; the employer himself passes all the documents to the employment service.
          2. Cheldon April 5 2020 12: 32 New
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            Quote: Malyuta
            You were put in a home prison

            Welkam to Italy, Spain, the same USA and a bunch of other countries. You can to the UK. You’ll either snoop in a garbage bag or run in a suit of a bush in small dashes for a beer.

            And in the US, treatment for the taba will cost 75 thousand. “Baku” if you will be without insurance. This is so for you, note, if you decide to jerk from the "home prison" to freedom. laughing
            1. Pivot April 5 2020 12: 39 New
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              Come on, don’t need delirium.
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            Do you want greenhouse conditions and not pay?
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              If my business is closed by decision of the government or the president for a certain period of time, so that during this period no taxes are taken from me and that the state automatically undertakes obligations to maintain dismissed employees, according to the lists from the employer.
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            You were put in a home prison

            However, you have crappy housing conditions, since you are comparing your native home with a prison. laughing This is where the roots of your "truthfulness" and hysteria grow from. Sucks to be you. laughing
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            You were put in a home prison

            Go to freedom - the Darwin Prize awaits you! How wonderful that you are all applicants here, and the offended by life (by my own admission) squabble and newly registered, gathered.
            I only hope that you will not have time to replay anyone. But what am I talking about? You won’t go anywhere, all your freedom is freedom to anonymously sprinkle on the clave ....
            1. Pivot April 5 2020 19: 37 New
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              Do you essentially have anything to say? Why isn’t quarantine declared in case of influenza, and from 200 to 600 thousand people die each year from it, how many died of coronovirus? Look at the mortality statistics for this and last year, even for Italy, even for China, you won’t be much of a difference, this is pure money laundering through pharmaceutical companies and the removal of unwanted competitors.
              1. bk316 April 5 2020 22: 10 New
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                Why the flu is not quarantined, and from it dies from 200 to 600 thousand people a year

                Because if you do not announce, then in a year will die about TEN MILLION.
                I wrote it 10 times already with calculations - I'm tired of it.
                Check out my comments.
                When you are carried to the morgue, it may and will come, or maybe not.
                1. Pivot April 5 2020 23: 36 New
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                  But what about the recommendations for those who have a mild coronavirus that is at home, which means the disease goes away easily in some cases.
                  1. bk316 April 6 2020 15: 26 New
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                    then the disease goes away easily in some cases.

                    Not in some, but in most of at least 70%. Only 10 million is only 0,2% of the world's population.
      5. Xnumx vis April 5 2020 11: 54 New
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        Glorious Analyte Malyuta wassat , not skurats ... Malyuta glory to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union .. fellow I decided to guess at a difficult time in Russia!
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          It seemed to me not to Russia, but to very specific people whom you somehow associate with an entire country.
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            Well, if here, right on the site, it is not known who associates himself with her, and speaks about bad power on her behalf, then why can't the specific people who lead this country associate themselves with her?
            You, the fighters with the regime, have a major drawback - you repeat what is poured into your brain (or whatever you have).
            You begin to repeat what causes normal people to irritate first, then laugh.
            You actually harm your masters with such stupid repeatability.
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              "it is not known who associates herself with her, and speaks about bad power on her behalf" - is it? Again, it seems to me that everyone who does not agree with the actions of the state leadership speaks only on their own behalf (well, at least the majority). I certainly only on my own))). Moreover, a large percentage (and possibly even a larger one) of the people really supports the head of state (I will not analyze the reasons now, they are very different).
              “You actually harm your owners” - this is not to paint and insult many people sincerely worried about the future of the country.
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        I read the comments and yours in particular ... One gets the impression like "Farewell IN and hello EM." Whining whining whining, sucking out of the finger, unwinding and winding a continuous continuous negative. Aren't you tired of whining and being stingy, sufferers?
        Or is life already not a joy without it?
        The president gave the right to the regions, what problems? It is easier for regional governors to assess the situation on the ground and make a decision.
        Previously, you had few freedoms among the heads of regions and a lot of presidential power. Now here you have a great reason to discuss the topic - Putin, if you have all the responsibility. What kind of people are you.
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          Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
          I read the comments and yours in particular ... One gets the impression like "Farewell IN and hello EM." Whining whining whining, sucking out of the finger, unwinding and winding a continuous continuous negative. Aren't you tired of whining and being stingy, sufferers?
          Or is life already not a joy without it?
          The president gave the right to the regions, what problems? It is easier for regional governors to assess the situation on the ground and make a decision.
          Previously, you had few freedoms among the heads of regions and a lot of presidential power. Now here you have a great reason to discuss the topic - Putin, if you have all the responsibility. What kind of people are you.
          good The liburd with VO will not understand this, for them the flail is a lifestyle, the protest is the meaning of existence, the Oval is God. Reason - no, that is not, that is not. repeat
          1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 5 2020 14: 55 New
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            Reason - no, that is not, that is not.


            As for the lack of reason, these people are the least worried.
          2. unaha April 5 2020 18: 30 New
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            “A liburd with VO will not understand this” - this seems like a vivid example when they write according to a template, without delving into the real state of things. As far as I can see, the so-called "liburds" (actually, rather, natural conservatives) have very few resources, mostly adherents of socialism and a "firm hand" who were not close to liberalism. But the notorious "bulk" (which is rarely mentioned here) is it absolutely necessary for you to insert?
            If you don’t “work for the government”, it’s worth considering why people with directly opposing views on the state system are extremely negative about the existing system and its personalities.
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          I don’t understand, you have quarantine in St. Petersburg !!! That you do not sit at trolls. To work, everything to work. Do not burn there at the post ...
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          In this case, I didn’t give it and transferred it with all the consequences, it worked out for you, it worked out for us, it didn’t work out for you, so you are not good managers.
      7. flicker April 5 2020 12: 59 New
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        There was a usual avoidance of liability
        How did you quickly identify wink it seems that they themselves have evaded responsibility more than once in this way bully
      8. Chervonny April 5 2020 13: 10 New
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        what a king, such boyars.
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          what a king, such boyars.

          Your king was Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev .... You have become kingdom, it’s so scary to remember your rule ... One socialism with a human face is worth it !!
      9. Awaz April 5 2020 15: 10 New
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        Yes, that is right . Moreover, local “boyars” are still not responsible for anything: whether their decisions will improve the situation or worsen, they will not answer for failure, but will receive a reward for victory.
        Well, the supreme power here, in case of failure, will turn out to be white and fluffy.
      10. Motorist April 5 2020 16: 08 New
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        There was a usual avoidance of liability

        A man on the spot controls the situation. If you do not let him act according to circumstances and demand to call Moscow with or without, then you can put a simple relay of commands instead of him.
      11. Rzzz April 5 2020 16: 18 New
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        avoiding responsibility and placing it on those very bad boyars who, for 20 years, served as a lightning rod for the chief manager.

        Quote: Malyuta
        Now, on the front lines of battle, not the president with his camarilla, but DOCTORS.

        This reminds me of the situation at my last job. Why did I leave there. I did quite a lot of all organizational work there. Part of the work was standard and walked along the thumb track. Some of the non-standard situations turned out to be resolved successfully, something with difficulties, something did not work out at all.
        Well, about once a week there was a “procedural” laughing at the main boss. And our director drove us there too. When it was necessary to report on what results, he reported to the boss about success himself. And when the boss asked, "but why didn’t you do something ??" then the director is: "And this is Rzzz who will report to us now!" That is, it turned out that he reported on all the successes, and I on the shortcomings. In the role of a whipping boy on duty, it was not very pleasant for me to be, and with the next occasion I left. By the way, on time, taking into account this crisis, that office is unlikely to survive.
      12. RUSS April 5 2020 16: 44 New
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        The authors of the article again decided to let all the dogs go to the liberals, but did not ride. Everyone already understands who is who.
    2. Chervonny April 5 2020 12: 49 New
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      there are no more independent ones. remained dependent, those of which can be kept in check.
      1. flicker April 5 2020 13: 09 New
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        remained dependent, those of which can be kept in check.
        So I often say to the "Israeli patriots" that Israel is completely dependent on the United States, if suddenly Israel moves away from the line of the Washington Political Bureau, then someone will immediately sponsor the Palestinians who are launching rocket attacks on Israel. The latter responds with devastating rocket attacks from Palestinian settlements. The UN condemns the actions of Israel, and the United States vetoes the UN resolution, making it clear to Israel who "saves" them. This is called
        keep in check
        bully
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      There can be nothing independent in the conditions of our “flea market” created by the authorities.
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        There can be nothing independent in the conditions of our “flea market” created by the authorities.

        You apparently live in some other alternative Russia. Do not torture yourself, emigrate to Europe. laughing
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          Do not torture yourself, emigrate to Europe.

          Just a tip of the day! The comment that has not been surpassed today on content, deep meaning and sparkling humor. This masterpiece! wassat
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            Quote: Malyuta
            Quote: fyvaprold
            Do not torture yourself, emigrate to Europe.

            Just a tip of the day! The comment that has not been surpassed today on content, deep meaning and sparkling humor. This masterpiece! wassat

            You overestimate yourself amiable baby.! In addition to filth and vulgarity in your "masterpieces" there is nothing!
    4. st25310 April 6 2020 13: 41 New
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      He has one problem, how to maintain his power with a negative rating. The rest is on the drum, survive as you wish
  2. Doccor18 April 5 2020 10: 24 New
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    In manual mode, one person cannot manage 17 million square meters. km This had to be done a long time ago. Only now the frames would have to be picked up ...
    1. Cowbra April 5 2020 10: 34 New
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      In the event that there is an epidemic throughout the country. Otherwise, how this mess in the world ends - it will be necessary to return everything back. In mind, the introduction of an emergency mode is the prerogative of a strictly central authority. Otherwise, there is a chance that the country will break up into uluses, like Ukraine. In emergency situations, Sobyanin is not given a decree - neither the cops, nor the Constitution.
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        And I already wanted to work!
        1. flicker April 5 2020 13: 16 New
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          "Putin gave a month to rest ..."
          And at this time, many enterprises plow in three shifts. They produce medical masks, respirators, antiseptics, protective suits, mechanical ventilation, thermal imaging scanners, etc.
          The Ministry of Defense (in three shifts) is building multifunctional modular medical centers in 16 cities of the country. The first 8 will be completed by April 30, the remaining 8 by May 15.
          While we rest, another part of the country plows 24/7.
          1. Chervonny April 5 2020 13: 52 New
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            Medical masks are released

            By the way, about the masks. we have an epidemic, which means that masks should be distributed free of charge, and not make a profit on them.
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              Do you all have to? Case, you do not have to wash the machine?
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Do you all have to? Case, you do not have to wash the machine?

                I really apologize, but will you wash everyone, or just Comrade Arlene? belay Something reminds me a lot .....
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                Do you all have to?

                Must in force majeure, which is PANDEMIA. Why are there no masks in hospitals? Why should doctors risk their lives because of gouging authorities? By the way, according to the order 198n of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation, ALL physicians working with the virus must be provided with N95 PPF3 respirators, which are NOT in the hospitals that we buy ourselves. I ordered in China, but did not have time. today is self-insulated by contact at work. Why the hell am I such power?
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                  Must in force majeure, which is PANDEMIA. Why are there no masks in hospitals? Why should doctors risk their lives because of gouging authorities?

                  I have a sister in Moscow a doctor. Mobilized to fight coronavirus. They gave out a SMALL jumpsuit from non-woven fabric, and ordinary masks. In this jumpsuit she must go to the challenges! 1 jumpsuit for the whole day. If you get infected, then with her robe she will spread the infection to the rest.
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                  Why are there no masks in hospitals?
                  Strange, the entire population is masked, but they are not in the hospitals?
                  I haven’t heard this from doctors.
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                    Quote: flicker
                    Strange, the entire population is masked, but they are not in the hospitals?
                    I haven’t heard this from doctors.

                    1. “Three days in one mask”
                    https://www.znak.com/2020-03-23/mediki_so_vsey_rossii_zhaluyutsya_v_socialnyh_setyah_na_otsutstvie_masok
                    2. They brought masks to hospitals: the head of the Alliance of Doctors was fined for violating the law on self-isolation
                    https://www.kp.ru/daily/27113.7/4190619/
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                      The Alliance of Doctors Navlinskaya desk, has nothing to do with doctors.
                      Do you think people only read your comments and do not know anything besides them?
                  2. Russian jacket April 6 2020 02: 54 New
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                    Why are there no masks in hospitals?
                    Strange, the entire population is masked, but they are not in the hospitals?
                    I haven’t heard this from doctors.

                    Energy Enterprise. 500 people staff. Scrubbed somewhere around 1500 masks. No more, management said. Well, I have a stock of gloves and masks in my garage - I used it during construction. I distribute to my colleagues, but enough for a week. Regarding the "guarantor", let us see how his "terrible" instructions will be carried out by the same central bank. So far, it seems that the authorities are counting that everything will resolve itself. So let's look at the effectiveness of the vertical and draw conclusions. At Domodedovo Airport, parts of the staff reduced their salaries to 0.2 of par. And part of the staff was sent to the BS, despite the formidable shouts of the guarantor ... This is in MOSCOW !!!! And what is going on in the regions is horror.
                    1. flicker April 6 2020 11: 16 New
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                      Energy Enterprise. 500 people staff. Scrubbed somewhere around 1500 masks. No more, management said. Well, I have a stock of gloves and masks in my garage - I used it during construction. I distribute to my colleagues, but enough for a week.
                      good
                      You are a great fellow!
                      You just explained the reasons for the lack of masks and gloves!
                      You, personally, have provided 500 (!) People with masks and gloves for a week!
                      Based on one mask per person per day, we get:
                      500x7 = 3500 masks, which for some reason were in your garage.
                      Z.Y. I remembered: all the doctors said that ambulance drivers provide masks and gloves from the garage bully
                      This is in MOSCOW !!!! And what is going on in the regions is horror.

                      If you didn’t inflame the panic, and sometimes looked at the statistics, then to your surprise you would find that there are few in the regions, thanks to timely measures.
                      Not like in Ukraine.
                      1. Russian jacket April 6 2020 12: 11 New
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                        Do not distort. I am from Siberia. And read off the diagonal. I have about 200 masks in a pack, I used it during the repair so as not to swallow the dust. Purchased last summer. Not 500, but about 10 good friends. This is the first. The second one. Read about shoots after arrival in the same Shelekhovo. Thirdly. About Moscow it was about working in an organization that was not small, but did not give a damn about the "guarantor." In the regions, hard workers are simply expelled to the BS. In the Irkutsk region this is practiced. So have a snack before writing nonsense. And more often read the official statistics. I especially recommend you watch Kiseleva. The same thing about Ukraine.
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                        I have about 200 masks in a pack, I used it during the repair so as not to swallow the dust
                        You’re doing well anyway.
                        Use medical masks for repairs (have you tried a respirator?). If everyone who repairs will buy 200 masks, then no doctors will be enough.
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                        You will laugh, but I use a respirator for concrete and work with bulk materials that create dust. And the mask when painting together with a hat, so as not to get dirty. And again I advise you not to distort. The liberal is very similar. Consider yourself smarter than others and give advice. Something you did not comment on the situation with BSs. And the way employers put the device on decrees of the "guarantor".
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                      About Moscow it was about working in an organization that was not small, but did not give a damn about the "guarantor."

                      If so, then they did not give a damn about the "guarantor", but at US!
                      Name this organization!
                      Otherwise, do not dissolve gossip.
                    3. Russian jacket April 6 2020 12: 45 New
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                      Carefully read my first post. Read slower. But for you I repeat. Domodedovo airport. Lowering of some employees to 0.2 salaries. You can call and check.
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                      Lowering of some employees to 0.2 salaries.
                      Ask about what kind of employees are you talking about?
                      About dispatchers or cafe workers owned by tenants?
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                      About employees who have an employment contract specifically with the airport itself and its subsidiaries. It doesn’t matter if this is a cleaner or a dispatcher. Or do you think a cleaner can sit in the BS or at 0,2 salary, because her work is less important?
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                      having an employment contract specifically with the airport itself and its subsidiaries.

                      Suppose you rented some area (signed a lease "with the airport itself" or "its subsidiaries", opened a cafe there, recruited staff: cooks, cleaning lady, waitress, etc.
                      You have the right to fire any of them.
                      You get fired, and the airport is to blame?
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                      Distort again. I'm talking about the structure related to the airport. And not about tenants. You yourself noted that I wrote about the employment contract with the airport and its subsidiaries, and not about the lease.
  • fyvaprold April 5 2020 14: 50 New
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    we epidemicsI, therefore, should give out masks for free, and not make a profit on them.

    We capitalismtherefore no one owes you anything. And masks are the same product as any other, they will be given to you at the hospital, and sold at a commercial pharmacy
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      they’ll give her to you in the hospital,

      don't star no them
    2. Overlock April 5 2020 23: 14 New
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      Quote: fyvaprold
      therefore no one owes you anything.

      maybe then YOU doctors do not owe anything?
      Quote: fyvaprold
      We have capitalism

      drive money
  • flicker April 5 2020 20: 36 New
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    masks should be distributed free of charge, and not make a profit on them.
    Now, some enterprises sew these masks in three shifts.
    First of all, masks (and someone: respirators, protective clothing) will be given to workers who do not rest, but are forced to work (they release special protective equipment against coronavirus) and will receive it for free.
    Then the workers of the remaining enterprises will begin to receive.
    Well, then the rest of the population (probably paid) for use in everyday life.
    In the meantime, the bulk of the population does not work, but at the same time their salaries will be preserved.
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    Medical masks are released

    which still do not, and in China bought 80 million pcs. masks. if released. then where are the products? Stopped China and all. Sailed
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      if released. then where is the product
      I have a sister doctor, she says nothing about the absence of masks. How many doctors I see - all in masks. I would understand if it was a question of the population, otherwise doctors
      request
      Doctors are not secret agents (which they don’t see), but doctors see everyone.
  • Motorist April 5 2020 16: 18 New
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    Who is the author of the "aphorism"? Do you have any thoughts?
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    If you wanted to. carry potatoes to the elderly pensioners or weak?
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    Otherwise, there is a chance that the country will break up into uluses

    such a probability is very high
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      Yes. you communists have already ruined and sold it.
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        Yes. you communists have already ruined and sold it.

        What communist is he? Put a flag on the avatar and immediately the communist?
        To become a communist, you must first at least read and comprehend the classics.
        But to become a troller avatars and clavs are enough ...
      2. Vadim237 April 5 2020 16: 44 New
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        All the Communists later became sellers - all that their system allowed them to steal.
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          More precisely, whose snout was closer to the state manger. And now many have already forgotten that they were such and miraculously turned into honest patriots. And the most important thing is the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Comrade (Mr.) Gorbachev, who lives on his own behind the hill and chuckles.
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          All communists subsequently became sold -

          Not everything, my grandfather did not, and father did not.
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      such a probability is very high

      This option is excluded from the word at all.
      The authorities do not have the Gorbachevs, if, suddenly, the distraught part of the people (and only the distraught people are ready to ruin their state) tries to do this, they will receive the Tiananmen, under the approval of most of the people.
      So the flock of “Skomorokhov” won’t get anything, since they’ll have a brain inserted.
  • Svarog April 5 2020 10: 52 New
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    Only now the frames would have to be picked up ...

    Personnel are already selected .. all as one patriots .. the truth is not clear which particular country ..
    There are problems not only in personnel, but also in responsibility .. there must be someone who would ask them for results .. but there are none .. you won’t ask friends ...
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      Here they are) the best shots that the Tsar picked up for us, and unpopular measures to take it to her, not royal things, it's all to the boyars
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        Quote: spirit
        Here they are) the best shots that the Tsar picked up for us, and unpopular measures to take it to her, not royal things, it's all to the boyars

        Well, that’s probably all and act in accordance with the order of Mr. Putin. After all, it was he who promised a credit vacation (source Rossiskaya Gazeta): Sberbank explained the rules for granting credit vacations. If the borrower cannot documented within the specified time period, the right to get a credit vacation, the terms of the contract will return to the former, says the first deputy chairman of the board of Sberbank Alexander Vedyakhin ...
        Therefore, in Sberbank advised not to rush to apply for a loan vacation - non-working days are extended until May, and all applications received will be considered in any case ...
        The Law on the Right to Credit Vacations entered into force on April 3, and it applies to loans issued before this date. Vacations are provided if the borrower's official income for last month decreased by more than 30% compared with the average monthly income for 2019. Deferral of payments can be obtained for a maximum of six months, there are restrictions on the size of the loan.

        What can be noted in this regard:
        1) And with whom it was built all this developed gray economy? Not under Mr. Putin, definitely not? Source Lenta.ru:
        The share of the shadow economy in Russia reaches 33,7 percent of GDP. This was reported by the Kommersant newspaper with reference to a study by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which estimates the size of the shadow sector in 158 countries in 2010-2017.
        In Russia, the share of the shadow economy is at the global average level, for a European country this level is extremely high. A similar situation is observed in the relatively developed countries of Africa and Pakistan.. In the European Union, only Romania and Bulgaria have a similar level of “shadow”.
        2) The wording - for the last month, as far as I understand, May cannot be taken into account, because it has just begun. And the same Security Council is cordially, with outstretched hands, waiting for all its debtors to repay loans in the month of May, but according to the results of the month, they will already decide. But the bulk of people will lose their income just in May. And it turns out that the rest of the money so far needs to be taken and given without fail to the banks.

        Sketches for the real situation on the labor market in the field of small and medium enterprises.

        Yesterday was the day of calling (there was a reason):
        1) I talked with my friend, a security guard in Moscow for many years, and all the years without registration. Never when does he drink at work (like many such guards), in good standing, disciplined (former military). They have already been told that it is quite possible they will be paid 50% for this shift. He said that probably then he won’t go to such a job anymore, because There is no economic sense, but he does not know what will happen next.

        2) Former friend (now just a friend). Two small enterprises in Voronezh.
        One is still clandestinely repairing bicycles, it says real pennies there, and the month of April is the season in this area and makes the whole fiscal year. If the next May month will not be able to give the results of April (as part of the average statistical), most likely it will close in May.
        The second, in the field of leisure and catering - is already closed. The collective is, of course, dissolved. Paid to employees only for the first week. May month workers will be BS. A further decision will be made in May, following negotiations with the landlord and looking at the fin. May results.

        3) Familiar. Food service network in Voronezh. A large team of several hundred people. Everyone is dismissed, and those who are with the design and who are without, without any preservation of zp. With a recommendation, who wants to return, let him expect what really happens in the month of May, who does not agree, free will, go look for work. Because the payment fund is large and the enterprise cannot really pull it off without carrying out activities.

        4) Another acquaintance, an employee of the enterprise that mounted the ventilation, was engaged in industrial mountaineering. Everything, the enterprise is closed, already unemployed.


        In practice, people were left without a livelihood now, and not according to the results of the month.
        I myself, who have been engaged in business for many years, cannot blame my friends who did this to the employees. I perfectly understand and know this situation. It’s one thing to declare from the screen that with conservation, and it’s quite another thing to find this very money in reality. And MiS business has long had no fin. stocks and pillows, worked, what is called off the wheels. There is a client flow, there are funds, there is no flow, there are no funds.

        PS Useless statements from the screen, a worthless leader who does not understand what is happening in the country and how things are really going. And, as usual, some ultra-liberals are to blame. It was they who forcibly dragged someone, seated them at the table and forced them to declare throughout the country not to understand something that had no connection with reality. And what is most surprising is that they were able to do so with a great man already twice in a row. Ata, these nasty ultra-liberals! And he, of course, has nothing to do with it, and only for all the good, against all the bad! Great leader!

        PPS And the banks, too, after the leader of the country, remember about you and citizens are waiting for you. hi
        1. flicker April 5 2020 13: 21 New
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          I don’t know, I don’t borrow money ...
          1. Leshy1975 April 5 2020 13: 39 New
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            Quote: flicker
            I don’t know, I don’t borrow money ...

            Well, I don’t know you either. Maybe you are just one of those who just occupies the people (well, some kind of bank executive). And it doesn’t matter what you personally know, because I have a habit of referring to information sources. You can see for yourselves the promised credit holidays for GDP and what is the result.
            Anyway, everything is not possible to know. I don’t know much either, GDP doesn’t know much, it’s not scary. It is scary when a person who does not know much at the head of the state, and those who know are afraid to tell him that he is simply lying (taken from El-Murid blog):
            In Russia there is a clear definition of the middle class, documented. The middle class "... includes persons with a per capita income of more than 6 living wages, as well as people with a car, bank savings and the possibility of regular holidays abroad) ..." (Order of the Government of the Russian Federation of 17.11.2008 No. 1662-r ( as amended on September 28.09.2018, 2020) <On the Concept of Long-Term Socio-Economic Development of the Russian Federation for the Period Until 2020> (together with the "Concept for Long-Term Socio-Economic Development of the Russian Federation for the Period Until XNUMX")

            As of January 3, 2020, the cost of living in Russia was set at 12 rubles. Six-fold income from this amount is 130 rubles. And this is a per capita income, that is, a family of 72780 should receive an income of 4 rubles in order to get to the lowest part of the middle class in Russia.

            There are two options for explanation. Either Putin is simply not familiar with the documents of his government, or is familiar, but out of habit he lied.

            The conclusion from the foregoing is understandable. Only those who have a per capita income of at least 73 thousand rubles, or almost 300 thousand per family, can be attributed to the middle class in Russia. All who do not have such income are poor. I provide the middle class share to those interested in calculating on their own. But even without data retrieval, I think it’s understandable - no 70% are close here. Well, if 15 percent is typed. Another 5 percent are rich. All the rest are poor or poor.

            One of the main arguments of supporters of Putin and his regime is that he "pulled the country out of poverty." 75-80 percent of the poor and poor - is it "pulled"?

            PS And you read more independent sources, see more and will know more. hi
            1. flicker April 5 2020 14: 23 New
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              And you read more independent sources
              Is El Murid independent? You better not mention it.

              When I hear that health care has collapsed or education, I’m ready to agree.
              I can understand when people with serious health problems complain that they are short of money.
              But when healthy men begin to whine that they can’t earn and feed their families, I can’t understand this.

              I see how even single women work in two (and who in three) jobs and support two (or even three) children and do not whine.
              Nor do they take loans.

              Before you take a loan, you should well calculate your chances of repaying this loan.
              I know several cases where they took a loan under a cafe, under a furniture salon, etc., bought a foreign car, proudly cut through the city, and then whined that they could not repay the loan.

              As a rule, 8 out of 10 cases, those who took a loan themselves were to blame.
              1. Leshy1975 April 5 2020 14: 41 New
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                Quote: flicker
                And you read more independent sources
                Is El Murid independent? You better not mention it.

                When I hear that health care has collapsed or education, I’m ready to agree.
                I can understand when people with serious health problems complain that they are short of money.
                But when healthy men begin to whine that they can’t earn and feed their families, I can’t understand this.

                I see how even single women work in two (and who in three) jobs and support two (or even three) children and do not whine.
                Nor do they take loans.

                Before you take a loan, you should well calculate your chances of repaying this loan.
                I know several cases where they took a loan under a cafe, under a furniture salon, etc., bought a foreign car, proudly cut through the city, and then whined that they could not repay the loan.

                As a rule, 8 out of 10 cases, those who took a loan themselves were to blame.

                1) And what if El-Murid lied when he refers to a government document where the criteria for the middle class are defined? I didn’t lie, it can be checked, he has a link on his blog and it redirects to such a document.
                2) Maybe Putin lied when he ranked, unfortunately, the existing documents of the Russian Federation, 70% of the middle class? Based on the text of the document, it turns out like this.
                3) Here you are writing
                As a rule, 8 out of 10 cases, those who took the loan themselves were to blame
                Or give a link that would also make sure what exactly is the fault of such people and that they certainly 80%.

                But then how is it that it is better not to mention El-Murida, they want a person to point to sources of information, but you can be mentioned? After all, you also give numbers, so indicate the sources. So that in the future I would know that it is better to mention you, not El-Murid, since you, unlike him, are so independent (something tells me that you will also be independent from the sources of information).

                PS
                But when healthy men begin to whine that they cannot earn and feed their family - I can’t understand it.

                Indeed, you do not understand and confuse. Because these very healthy men do not whine, but come to understand that it is time to change the situation in the country as a whole, and not to deal with rearrangement of beds in a brothel, as well as to ask the guilty for violation of the law (Constitution, corruption, etc.). You personally will not begin to whine and object to bringing the perpetrators to a legal answer? hi
                1. flicker April 5 2020 17: 24 New
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                  the most healthy men do not whine

                  They came to understanding ... to understanding
                  it’s time to change the situation in the country as a whole
                  .
                  So, no less.
                  Take and change the situation ... in general. "In particular" they do not want, but immediately as a whole.
                  ***
                  First, in order to "change the situation in the country as a WHOLE", you must be the owner of the item (i.e. country) that you want to change, i.e. have legal rights to such changes. But these rights are given by the people through elections. And who gave you the right to change the country? None.

                  The second, before talking about changing the situation in the country as a whole, it is necessary:
                  a) understand what is WHOLE in general.
                  Any WHOLE (and this is a "country") consists of parts. In order to change the situation in the COUNTRY as a WHOLE, one must at least understand from what PARTS this situation is formed in the COUNTRY.
                  Moreover, the property of the WHOLE is not equal to the sum of the properties of the PARTS of which it consists, but has a QUALITATIVE new property, which was not in any of the properties of the parts.
                  Those. even knowing all the PARTS (and you don’t know them!) and their properties (and you don’t know them!), you still need to connect these PARTS with a strictly defined connection (and you don’t know this connection!) to get the WHOLE (read the situation in country) of the required quality.

                  ***
                  What is the result: you have NO legal law from the PEOPLE of Russia!
                  WHAT to change and (especially) HOW to change you do not know from the word ABSOLUTELY.
                  Give you free rein, you’ll just destroy everything, and in this you are no better than Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
                  Just whine, while the country plows, and some people in the country plow 24/7.
              2. Oleg Zorin April 5 2020 15: 17 New
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                Listen, you just, on the fingers and with references to regulatory documents, the person explained his vision of the general situation. And even gave free advice on how to know more. You turn the conversation somewhere into the bushes, in particular, telling ... a billiard, actually. What is it, malicious intent or cognitive dissonance?
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              Quote: Leshy1975
              You can see for yourselves on the promised credit holidays for GDP and what is the result

              Putin can order commercial banks? The state may not be commercial. It is necessary to live within our means, and not to do debts.
              Quote: Leshy1975
              And you read more independent sources, see more and will know more

              "Echo of Moscow" or FBK with "Rain" and "New Time"? Yes, yes, there are completely "knowledgeable people" sitting. laughing
              1. Leshy1975 April 5 2020 15: 17 New
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                Quote: fyvaprold
                Quote: Leshy1975
                You can see for yourselves on the promised credit holidays for GDP and what is the result

                Putin can order commercial banks? The state may not be commercial. It is necessary to live within our means, and not to do debts.
                Quote: Leshy1975
                And you read more independent sources, see more and will know more

                "Echo of Moscow" or FBK with "Rain" and "New Time"? Yes, yes, there are completely "knowledgeable people" sitting. laughing

                Wait, i.e. You are now trying to convince me that when Mr. Putin was talking about credit holidays, then he, because he doesn’t have such opportunities, just cast bullets? And if not about the Security Council, then who are we talking about? But in general, you are also casting bullets now, because everyone is obliged to comply with the laws of the Russian Federation, and not selectively, commercial or state. cans. And this is not an initiative of the Security Council separately, and there is an explanation of the Central Bank on this issue.
                (source interfax.ru):
                On Friday, the President of the Russian Federation signed the law, which gives the right to citizens whose income has decreased by more than 30% compared with the previous year, to receive credit holidays for six months. Similar measures are also envisaged for SMEs from the sectors most affected by the COVID-19 pandemic.

                By the way, if you definitely need to refer to the Echo of Moscow, then please (source echo.msk.ru), as well as can be read in forbes.ru, regnum.ru, yandex.ru, kp.ru and others:

                The bookmaker Fonbet is on the list backbone enterprises of Russia. laughing
                The new list, approved by the government commission, has nearly 650 companies, which, in times of crisis, may qualify for state support - soft loans, investments and debt refinancing. The source of the Russian service of the BBC in the market of betting companies suggested that Fonbet was listed as a major employer with the most extensive network of points receiving bets in the country. laughing laughing laughing


                PS You see, what an awkward situation has arisen. You branded
                "Echo of Moscow" or FBK with "Rain" and "New Time"
                , although I did not mention them initially, but you yourself, without understanding the issue, cast the bullets. The law is binding on all. hi
                1. depressant April 5 2020 20: 22 New
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                  My colleague Leshiy, I’ll add: the bookmaker Fonbet is registered in Cyprus, this is an offshore.
              2. Pivot April 5 2020 20: 29 New
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                But he ordered the closure of cafes, restaurants and factories, but the banks do not, is not an option? Yes, in general, now is a favorable time for raider conquests. Knowledgeable people just do not sit, and squeeze business from competitors.
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                  Quote: Pivot
                  But he ordered the closure of cafes, restaurants and factories, but the banks do not, is not an option? Yes, in general, now is a favorable time for raider conquests. Knowledgeable people just do not sit, and squeeze business from competitors.

                  How, if arbitration cases are not considered in the courts, the FSSP does not work, no one allows private security companies to move around the country? To pay the police to arrest a competitor and get up on a guarded object with a hunting barrel? laughing Do you understand what you write?
    2. Deck April 5 2020 11: 18 New
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      With such cadres, it’s good to cut the budget and cheat on elections. Sobyanin declared that it was impossible to pay financial aid in the hands of people who had to sit unemployed for another month of self-isolation because the budget would crack and announced tenders for laying lawns, replacing tiles, curbs, asphalt for 12 billion rubles. When will their faces crack?
      1. Arlen April 5 2020 13: 15 New
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        Quote: Deck
        When will their faces crack?

        Only when the people say: “That's enough! Go away!”
    3. Chervonny April 5 2020 13: 15 New
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      Personnel are already selected .. all as one patriots .. the truth is not clear which particular country ..

      not ours, not Russia, that's for sure.
      1. Campanella April 5 2020 15: 12 New
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        They are patriots of a good life.
        Life is called short and you have to have time to enjoy sausage, jamon, Armagnacs, patekfilipy, yachts, cars, well, and girls, of course. And for this, the Motherland is not needed.
      2. Vadim237 April 5 2020 16: 48 New
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        Definitely not yours, your homeland is located outside of Russia.
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          Quote: Vadim237
          Definitely not yours, your homeland is located outside of Russia.

          More precisely, outside of Moscow. This is where Russia begins.
  • Malyuta April 5 2020 11: 37 New
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    In manual mode, one person cannot manage 17 million square meters. km This had to be done a long time ago. Only now the frames would have to be picked up ...

    Look, what happens, a person has built a certain system for 20 years, let's call it a “vertical” and then it suddenly turns out that there is no management system? Do you speak frames? Well, where are these shots?
    Oh yes, the hero of labor Rotenberg, the hero of Kinder Surprise, the honorary order-bearers the sons of Ragozin and the nobleman Patrushev, but yes there is a loyal portfolio bearer Sechin and a lover of cavaliers with a view of the Chemez Spasskaya tower, oh yes and the little things that rebelled from hell, well there are personal guards, massage therapists, cooks, "solvers", well, that's all the solitaire.
    Someone will yell now, but the puck ?! And I’ll answer that I’ve wiped the puck on my party work during the Soviet Union all my life, and then joined the new “team”, and most importantly, what he did was to ruin the civil defense, which worked to prevent emergencies and came up with the Ministry of Emergencies, that is, a structure to eliminate everything only the consequences of these emergencies.
    I know firsthand what a Soviet civil defense was and I saw what happened later on, how the bomb shelter system, the storage facilities of the defense squadron, special equipment, the warning system, and how backup waves were sold to please cellular operators were sold and plundered.
    What do we see now? SMS from the Ministry of Emergencies? And what will happen if the light goes out, than they will be SMS, with flashlights? No wonder evil tongues say that the Ministry of Emergencies is an evacuation service who knows whom.
    I declare with responsibility that if the threat of a virus epidemic occurred during the time of civil war, then EVERY citizen, young and old, would have to have 100 respirators and 20 gas masks each, I’m not even talking about medicines, drinking water supplies (now and "tanks" from stainless steel have long been scrapped) and products.
    And this we are talking about the most "effective" minister, and what then about the others .., here are such shots ......
    1. Arlen April 5 2020 13: 17 New
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      Look, what happens, a person has built a certain system for 20 years, let's call it a “vertical” and then it suddenly turns out that there is no management system?

      There is no management system. There is a created system of capitalist relations named "flea market".
      1. Oleg Zorin April 5 2020 15: 19 New
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        No, I do not agree. The flea market has internal logic and a certain order
    2. Vadim237 April 5 2020 16: 58 New
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      "I declare with responsibility that if the threat of a virus epidemic occurred during the time of civil war, then EVERY citizen, from small to large, would have to have pieces of 100 respirators and pieces of 20 gas masks, I’m not even talking about medicines, supplies of drinking water (now and "tanks" from stainless steel have long been scrapped) and products. " - Stop thumping, now the time is different and the equipment is different and the virus is new, but you are still sitting in a Soviet gas mask and closed in a tank.
    3. flicker April 5 2020 23: 53 New
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      20 years man built a certain system, let's call it "vertical"

      Do you seriously think that the vertical can be called a "system" or is it such a joke? wassat
  • Vadim237 April 5 2020 11: 48 New
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    That's how a full-fledged AI will be created so it will manage everything on an area of ​​17 million square kilometers online including creating a plan to conduct financial flows, conducting an audit, checking the quality of work, and much more - everything will be digital.
    1. The popuas April 5 2020 11: 54 New
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      And the embezzlers of the AI ​​will identify and plant! laughing AI just doesn’t appear out of thin air, people will develop it according to someone’s order, so the customer will have a profit, which can’t be said about the rest
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        Now a lot of people are involved in it: Rosatom, KRET, Roselectronics, ERA, Roscosmos, Technodynamics, Moscow State University, and a dozen other enterprises and research institutes. All grandmothers will be tracked electronically on the blockchain system, all the chicks are in sight when someone has something to do - stealing unnoticed will no longer work and you will not escape responsibility.
        1. Campanella April 5 2020 15: 07 New
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          And where is the blockchain?
          1. Vadim237 April 5 2020 17: 00 New
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            For secure database storage and uptime.
        2. CT-55_11-9009 April 5 2020 20: 59 New
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          Quote: Vadim237
          Roskosmos

          Quote: Vadim237
          stealing discreetly will no longer work and you will not escape responsibility.

          Seriously? Roscosmos from embezzlement will wean only mass shooting. Thrice in a row. Minimum.
      2. flicker April 6 2020 00: 01 New
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        And the embezzlers of the AI ​​will identify and plant! AI just doesn’t appear out of thin air, people will develop it according to someone’s order, so the customer will have a profit, which can’t be said about the rest

        You are strong.
        Especially this
        AI just does not appear out of thin air, people will develop it
        - very deep.
        1. The popuas April 6 2020 00: 15 New
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          And how else, to respond to stupidity bully
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          There is a system on the roads, which fines for violations through video cameras. It seems to be a good thing, but .... The software for those tasks is such that you can exclude the car number from the base. And who do you think is in these "excluded - exceptional"?
  • Arlen April 5 2020 13: 13 New
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    We have a problem with personnel. People are and are worthy. And there are many worthy. But our entire structure is created in such a way that worthy people are not needed, but those who know how to adapt to existing conditions are needed without changing the very essence of these conditions.
    1. flicker April 6 2020 00: 05 New
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      We have a problem with personnel. People are and are worthy. And there are many worthy.
      So is there a problem with the staff or it is not (people are and are worthy)?
  • 210ox April 5 2020 14: 26 New
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    I do not mind that the president would give power to the field. Just how will they be distributed among them? Here in Kuban, Kondratiev led very harshly. And of course with shoals and confusion. A man after chemotherapy for two days could not get home, for passes and lines and crowded people. And why people were forbidden to move in cars — in our house there are five more children, except my wife and me, and they need to be fed and bought food not only in the store, but also from private traders. Kuban village. It is possible to work only on a company bus; in half a shift, a person gets into this bank. Here he is a nursery. But on the machine, no way!
  • for
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    In manual mode,

    So he created it and, in a bad situation, he decided to turn it off, and it will work out again. The governors threw the vice and mayors.
  • Mountain shooter April 5 2020 10: 27 New
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    How else? An acute situation requires quick solutions. The center is far away, but in place it is more visible. The center will ask for the result! Then...
    1. Insurgent April 5 2020 10: 30 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The center will ask for the result! Then...

      Someday, maybe ... yes

      1. Insurgent April 5 2020 10: 38 New
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        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        The center will ask for the result! Then...

        Quote: Insurgent
        Someday, maybe ...


        And now the minus ...

        Obviously from someone who understands that in a critical situation, a pandemic, with a generally gloomy picture with the "ability" of local authorities to work even in a situation NOT crisis, "demand from officials later"will turn into a disaster for citizens now ...
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          the "ability" of local authorities to work even in a NOT crisis situation, "demand from officials later," will turn into a disaster for citizens now

          Is it really not clear that if the local authorities allow an increase in the incidence rate, the reaction from the center will be INSTANT. And if they don’t allow it, then ... they will sort out what was there and how ...
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            Is it really not clear that if the local authorities allow an increase in the incidence rate, the reaction from the center will be INSTANT.

            Me NOT the decision of the Center to provide freedom of action in emergency situations is clear the same officials, to "effective managers" who, even in better times, did not mumble or smack, could not solve elementary, everyday tasks on their own, and, in short, they were UNABLE.
            1. Mountain shooter April 5 2020 12: 07 New
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              I don’t understand the very decision of the Center to provide freedom of action in emergency situations to the same officials, “effective managers” who, in better times, did not moo or smack, could not independently solve elementary, everyday tasks, and, in short, they were NOT UNABLE

              Apparently, that's why you are NOT leading anything. If the head will UNDERSTAND all the details without delegating authority to the underlying level ... He will quickly destroy any system. Because his possibilities are limited, even if he is a genius ...
              1. Mestny April 5 2020 12: 48 New
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                Comrade reveals himself completely. On the one hand, "he does not understand," on the other hand, he immediately concludes - "they are not competent."
                That is, I do not know nichrome, but I have an opinion.
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                If the manager will UNDERSTAND all the details without delegating authority

                This had to be done before.
          2. New Year day April 5 2020 19: 35 New
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            And if they don’t allow it,

            if you turn statistics, then everything will be fine. Frauds with statistics take place
        2. flicker April 6 2020 00: 26 New
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          demand from officials later, "will turn into a disaster for citizens now ...
          But NOT demand - will it be better?
          Why did they give part of the decisions to the regions?
          Suppose that in one family someone is under supervision, then other family members should take serious protective measures (wear masks inside the apartment, etc.)
          And in the second family there are no possible carriers - then there is no need to wear masks inside the apartment.
          Those. the family determines the rule of conduct inside the apartment on their own.
          But in case of serious symptoms, they must not only comply with protective measures, but also inform the medical services in order to spread the virus to others.
          So, everything is correct with the transfer of some decisions to the regions.
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    3. Svarog April 5 2020 11: 06 New
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      The center will ask for the result! Then.

      In the next life..
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The center will ask for the result! Then...

      while the center is self-insulated so as not to be guilty. There is a battle. and the army commander locked himself in the outhouse and shouts: themselves
  • Snarkxnumx April 5 2020 10: 28 New
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    Why, he is naked! - suddenly said some child.

    And everyone began to whisper to each other the words of the child.

    - He's naked! Here the child says that he is naked!

    - He's naked! Finally shouted the whole nation.
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        Wow, Zelensky is also able to accompany this place with a guitar!
        We underestimated this gifted man! wink
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          Quote: Paul Siebert
          Wow, Zelensky is also able to accompany this place with a guitar!
          We underestimated this gifted man! wink

          In general, talent is multifaceted. And the First Lady, in their development, helps in every possible way, and encourages ... yes yes

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      Why, he is naked! - suddenly said some child.

      You can make wooden ones scream anything.
      It's good that you mainly live on the Internet.
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    "Concerned," what else to add.
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      ..... In the meantime, troops have entered New York to prevent panic and looting .. Feel the difference "gentlemen screamers down with the regime." !!! hi

      How so? And no one protested and called the strangler of freedom and the gulag? It's somehow indecent even wassat our measures were condemned as restriction of freedom
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        1. Reptiloid April 5 2020 11: 32 New
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          Quote: Mobius
          .... Double standards, how is it all familiar .. And what is happening in Europe with migrants? After all, there were hundreds of thousands of them there .. And no one does the tests for them for 450 pounds ..
          And the tests do not, and the distance between them in the places of residence ---- not 1,5m, but less, probably.
          Although I read somewhere that 2 meters is not enough.
          Yesterday, having read the order, I went to the supermarkets and markets, was in the grocery supermarket. In general, people abide by
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            Quote: Reptiloid
            Although I read somewhere that 2 meters is not enough.

            Well, if down, then lol
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            Yesterday, having read the order, I went to the supermarkets and markets, was in the grocery supermarket. In general, people abide by

            right. Marks are applied to the floor and all are marked
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              And without marks on the eyes, in your opinion, you won’t get it? Nobody breathes in spmu, do not come close, turn away from each other .....
    2. Lipchanin April 5 2020 10: 41 New
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      They just need to Neolibers trample and ruin Russia ..

      1. Prjanik April 5 2020 15: 45 New
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        Not stupid, however, was a man! good
        1. Lipchanin April 5 2020 15: 54 New
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          Quote: Prjanik
          Not stupid, however, was a man!

          Tell it to those who put minuses for this post laughing
          1. Prjanik April 5 2020 16: 09 New
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            I put you +) But the minus bots, the campaign, is full of here, Churchill, as they say, hit the bull's-eye. wink
    3. SSR
      SSR April 5 2020 10: 59 New
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      Quote: Mobius
      In the meantime, troops entered New York to prevent panic and looting .. Feel the difference "gentlemen screamers down with the regime." !!!

      I read an interesting article, there is such a moment, I’ll try to explain it.
      When the signs of the epidemic began to appear, one small part of the officials began to demand the introduction of tough measures to prevent the spread, the second small part defiantly pledged and "spit" on the imaginary threat, and a large third thought so. - We will be for tough measures, they will consider alarmists, we will ignore and suddenly an epidemic will happen, we will become overlooked and as a result they began to take half measures and got Italy.
      So do citizens, until the threat and illness of them and their loved ones are touched, shouting and making noise - what kind of self-isolation is this ?! Small business kaput!
      When trouble comes specifically to them, the screams are diametrically opposite.
      The epidemic in Italy, killed both part of the business and people.
      Imha.
      Many people talk about emergencies, but an emergency force majeure cheating on everything and the decree of the president and the government allows us to solve the difficulties by dialogue without chopping a cocoa. It seems to me that if the situation drags on me and worsens, then the state, based on the data, will routinely look for ways to support it in order to minimize the damage to both business and the state. The budget and revenues to the treasury come not only from corporations, but also from each citizen, both spending money and receiving in the form of various taxes and excises.
      It's hard to chop the branch on which you sit and understand what will happen if you cut it. Personally, I would not like to be in the place of decision-makers today.
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        I read an interesting article

        Read to anyone interested, found it.
        https://inosmi.ru/science/20200404/247198275.html

        Become aware of your cognitive bias. In the early stages, the Covid-19 crisis in Italy did not at all look like a crisis. Initial announcements of the state of emergency were met with skepticism both by the public and by many representatives of political circles, although some scientists had warned of a possible disaster a few weeks before.
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          Read to anyone interested, found it.

          And you read this
          https://minskblog.livejournal.com/244146.html
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    4. Andrey Mikhaylov April 5 2020 11: 14 New
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      Great comments !!! I fully support you.
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      I can imagine what would happen if some kind of neoliberal was in power

      Laponka ... And who else is in power in Russia, if not a liberal? North American school, moderate wing. This is the one where the liberal economy was easily combined with slavery for certain categories, complete freedom for the rich, and the restriction of the rights of the free, but not too wealthy. Do not agree? Well, try to describe the political position of the guarantor.
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  • APASUS April 5 2020 10: 35 New
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    It is logical that the difference between the starting conditions for patients, population density, and the number of cases can be enormous, and this is where the opportunity to regulate the quarantine period comes from.
    Take Moscow and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug as an example - Ugra
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      Quote: APASUS
      It is logical that the difference between the starting conditions for patients, population density, and the number of cases can be enormous, and this is where the opportunity to regulate the quarantine period comes from.
      Take Moscow and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug as an example - Ugra

      Take for example then: Moscow and Krasnodar Territory !!! Moscow HUB and self-isolation, but in our region ... QUARANTINE and Special pass !!!! Here is the logic ...
      1. den3080 April 5 2020 11: 29 New
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        Quote: Rjkley
        Quote: APASUS
        It is logical that the difference between the starting conditions for patients, population density, and the number of cases can be enormous, and this is where the opportunity to regulate the quarantine period comes from.
        Take Moscow and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug as an example - Ugra

        Take for example then: Moscow and Krasnodar Territory !!! Moscow HUB and self-isolation, but in our region ... QUARANTINE and Special pass !!!! Here is the logic ...

        You, I think, have a “pilot project.” They are watching how people behave.

        about "making decisions on the ground" ... I think that not one of the boyars will take any facilitating actions simply out of a sense of self-preservation, because of the fear of losing their chair.
        but to tighten it up - you are always welcome, it is absolutely safe, and maybe even praised.
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        Do you want to swap with Moscow and become the epicenter?
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          Do you want to swap with Moscow and become the epicenter?

          The course of your thought is clear to me ... But, too, too much excesses, as it were, do not please. Huber ahead of the whole country waved his saber ... Then he would have shown appropriate activity in providing the population with the same masks, for example, and other means of protection. So no - I limited myself to all sorts of prohibitions and threats, dispersed everyone (those without a pass) by holes, and live like you want, and rent is dripping, loans, etc. in the absence of income! You can continue, but I'm not strong in the epistolary genre ... In general, it looks more like a deflection and window dressing before the Chief Chief!
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        Treatment should not be worse than the disease .... But in our region it seems they think differently and decided to pull the "stop-crane" of the regional economy.
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        Quote: Rjkley
        and in our region ... QUARANTINE and Special pass !!!! Here is the logic ...

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  • Gardamir April 5 2020 10: 35 New
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    New chip. You will not argue with the actions of the president, if you are not a liberal.
    But the trick is that it already was. The good president promised, and the evil boyars do not want to fulfill. Sobyanin refused to pay for a self-termination. And Nabiulina refused to introduce credit vacations.
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    2. Vadim237 April 5 2020 11: 55 New
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      Now loans are issued at zero percent for those industries that have suffered the most and yes they have also introduced credit holidays for them.
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        Yes, they also introduced credit holidays.

        Yeah, they entered .. interest will drop .. nobody canceled them ..
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          The guys at VTB are already taking at zero percent.
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        Now loans are issued at zero percent for those industries that have suffered the most and yes they have also introduced credit holidays for them.


        An interesting list of these industries.

        Moscow. April 2 INTERFAX.RU - On March 20, a government commission to increase the sustainability of the Russian economy reviewed and approved a new list of systemically important organizations whose financial condition in the face of a collapse in oil prices and coronavirus pandemics will monitor and, if necessary, consider providing support.


        Among them, for example, there is one. Proposed by the Ministry of Finance of Russia.



        For reference. LLC "F.O.N." - This is the well-known bookmaker "Fonbet".
        That is, with the money of the budget formed from the taxes of citizens, it is proposed to help the owners of the totalizator.
        - Apparently this is the most backbone branch of the economy.

        source:
        https://www.interfax.ru/sistemoobrazuyuchieorgangizatisii.html
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          I don’t read Interfax - I'm talking about the current help in the form of no interest loans, they are there and they are being taken. And what kind of OOO the state plans to help me now, the least concern is like everyone else.
    3. Million April 5 2020 12: 05 New
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      A joke has already appeared: Putin enters the bar and shouts loudly: to all of the beer at the expense of the establishment!
      1. Motorist April 5 2020 16: 49 New
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        Million, hello, we have already met. The employer must interact with employees correctly, not only in "fat" times. A friend in need is a friend indeed.
    4. Chervonny April 5 2020 13: 25 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      You will not argue with the actions of the president, if you are not a liberal.

      the trick is that the president is the country's main liberal. he has repeatedly spoken out about this.
  • bar
    bar April 5 2020 10: 35 New
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    Is there much honor in discussing the delusional fabrications of this “oscilloscope needle” here?
    1. bukhach April 5 2020 10: 46 New
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      Here it’s not her thoughts that are discussed, but they demonstrate the degree of her powerful thinking. laughing
  • prior April 5 2020 10: 38 New
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    Well, times, well, mores ...
    About yesterday’s explosion of a five-story building in Orekhov-Zuyev there wasn’t a word in VO, but the nonsense of the liberal woman from “Echo Matz” is here for you, discuss ...
  • askort154 April 5 2020 10: 45 New
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    Ultraliberals Concerned About Why “Sole Leader” Has Transferred More Authority to Regional Authorities

    The ultra-liberals have one desire - always try to swim against the tide. They never succeed in this, they will bite their teeth together in anger, but they do not refuse stupid desire, and continue to persist. But in the end - "zilch" and even greater anger.
    1. Campanella April 5 2020 11: 15 New
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      Yes, as if the situation in the country got everyone, and not just ultra-liberals.
      It’s clear with them, they pull the blanket to themselves! What should the people do?
  • Tank jacket April 5 2020 10: 47 New
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    December 8, 2008 was awarded the prize "Defender of Freedom", established by the US Department of State. [40] The Latynina Prize was awarded personally by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
    1. silberwolf88 April 5 2020 11: 41 New
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      the right post ... for those who are in the liberals)) ... and writes plus any omnipresent here ... we understand who you drown for)
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        we understand who you drown for
        Well, share, who are you and for whom are we drowning? Do not forget to explain why the powers were transferred to the governors to solve the problem, and not to the center?
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        Quote: silberwolf88
        the right post ... for those who are in the liberals)) ... and writes plus any omnipresent here ... we understand who you drown for)


        и

        For a balance of power, so to speak
    2. Leshy1975 April 5 2020 12: 55 New
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      Quote: Tank jacket

      December 8, 2008 was awarded the prize "Defender of Freedom", established by the US Department of State. [40] The Latynina Prize was awarded personally by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

      Bye, yes we have enough of this. I also have not seen. Maybe someday GDP will also award Latynin. That's just finished rewarding his loved ones. Why is Latynina worse?




      PS 8 September 2017 Yu. Latynina of the year became a prize winner Union of Journalists of Russia "Tuning fork" named after Anna Politkovskaya.
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    for April 5 2020 10: 52 New
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    And they handed the vice governors, these mayors. Our Marsha opened public baths, and only municipal ones.
    1. Cowbra April 5 2020 11: 01 New
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      And good. The virus at 70 degrees is already dying. Hot in the bath
      1. Lipchanin April 5 2020 11: 41 New
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        And good. The virus at 70 degrees is already dying.

        And if he still has a little broom in his face ... lol
        1. AU Ivanov. April 5 2020 11: 46 New
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          And if you swell for a couple of weeks, then the virus becomes visible to the naked eye and is easily destroyed by a fly swatter.
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            You won’t see a fly swatter, after a couple of weeks of thumping, Andrei.
  • sanik2020 April 5 2020 10: 58 New
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    Regions, of course, I can make certain decisions on my own, but then I will have to pay for my decisions from the regional budget. Therefore, all decisions will not be made rationally and with an eye to their own budgetary opportunities, and they are different for everyone.
    Most likely it will turn out as usual in such a situation, if it is possible to quickly crush the infection, the president will write himself into an asset, as his own wise decision will fail, then the provincial bosses will answer.
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      Quote: sanik2020
      Regions, of course, I can make certain decisions on my own, but then I will have to pay for my decisions from the regional budget. Therefore, all decisions will not be made rationally and with an eye to their own budgetary opportunities, and they are different for everyone.
      Most likely it will turn out as usual in such a situation, if it is possible to quickly crush the infection, the president will write himself into an asset, as his own wise decision will fail, then the provincial bosses will answer.

      03.04/2020. XNUMX ... In less than a day, four governors resigned in Russia. The heads of Komi, the Arkhangelsk region, the Nenets Autonomous Okrug and Kamchatka left their posts. Rotation messages appeared immediately after a speech by Russian President Vladimir Putin on the spread of coronavirus in Russia.
      1. silberwolf88 April 5 2020 11: 42 New
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        when the rats run away ... the sediment is less ... and it’s easier to hike
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          The main thing is they stop eating your stocks laughing and sediment and speed so nice addition ...
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            Quote: Demon_is_ada
            The main thing is they stop eating your stocks laughing and sediment and speed so nice addition ...


            Oh, not a fact.
            "Our rats" usually "flee the ship" along with "supplies."
            Examples with the ex-Minister of Finance of the Moscow Region Alexei Kuznetsov and the colonel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Sergey Terentyev ("colleague" Zakharchenko) - this is confirmed.
  • Tank jacket April 5 2020 11: 01 New
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    ... the problems of the radio station in covering the Georgian war, including the statement by one reporter Yulia Latynina, who called the Russian soldiers enemy troops, as well as the message about the movement of troops, which was based only on Georgian information ...
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      Quote: Tank jacket
      who called the Russian soldiers enemy troops

  • Campanella April 5 2020 11: 12 New
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    Ultra liberals criticize liberal? Liberal Putin has given responsibility for the consequences of the coronavirus to regional leaders sounds somehow strange!
    More precisely, the dictator would have appointed the guilty just in case.
    In general, it is not up to laughter, a person with absolute power to call a liberal? The funniest thing is that he calls himself a liberal and this causes cognitive dissonance.
    What excites me most is how Russia will emerge from this absolute monarchy in conditions of "great friendship" with the West and a falling standard of living of the people.
    1. AU Ivanov. April 5 2020 12: 26 New
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      Where is the liberal GDP? He is a conservative of pure water.
      1. Campanella April 5 2020 12: 34 New
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        He himself stated that he was a liberal in an interview. Recently literally shown.
        1. AU Ivanov. April 5 2020 14: 01 New
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          You can say anything. Hitler called himself a humanist.
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            You can say anything. Hitler called himself a humanist.

            This is absolutely correct, you can say anything. And therefore, you personally can say as much as you like that Putin is not a liberal, but we will still believe Mr. Putin in this matter. Because these are his views and he needs to know which ones he shares. And it’s unlikely that you know Putin better than he does.
            1. AU Ivanov. April 5 2020 14: 28 New
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              And judging by deeds? The fear of reforms that the country needs is conservatism, and not liberalism at all.
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                And judging by deeds? The fear of reforms that the country needs is conservatism, and not liberalism at all.

                If on business, it’s even worse. He will not even pull on a liberal.
                Liberalism (from lat. Liberalis - free) - a philosophical and socio-political movement, proclaiming inviolability of human rights and personal freedoms.
                What kind of liberal is he after the summer Moscow protests, when they even took people just strolling, without slogans and posters? He’s just flattering himself.
                And if on business, and look at his surroundings, and remember that representatives of the Tambov organized crime group were part of the leadership of the cooperative. The lake, that criminal proceedings were instituted against his boss, his associates and himself, could well be pulled to the holder of the common fund.
                And where does the conservatism?
                Conservatism (from lat. Conservo - I keep it) is an ideological adherence to traditional values ​​and orders, social or religious doctrines. The main value is taken to preserve the traditions of society ...
                What kind of social tradition is it - driving society into poverty? In the traditions of Russian society, the interest of the collective is above the private interest. And with him, the wild growth of stratification in society in favor of individuals.
                If they just did a hap, and categorically do not want to change anything, or even more so to answer for what they have done.
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                And judging by deeds? The fear of reforms that the country needs is conservatism, and not liberalism at all.

                It’s just cowardice, a liberal coward.
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          “Marriage is the union of a man and a woman” (c)
          LGBT promotion is prohibited.
          Maternity capital is now given for the first child.
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Where is the liberal GDP? He is a conservative of pure water.

        Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview with a number of Russian and foreign television channels affirmatively answered a statement by a journalist who asked him to confirm that he was “a true liberal and holds liberal views”

        https://lenta.ru/news/2014/01/19/liberally/
        1. AU Ivanov. April 5 2020 14: 04 New
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          Judged not by words, but by deeds. In fact: an activist afraid of reform cannot be a liberal.
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          In another interview, he called himself a Russian nationalist.
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Where is the liberal GDP? He is a conservative of pure water.

        Darling, conservatism is not a political conviction. Conservatism in general is rather a life position.
        Conservatism (from the Latin. Conservare - to preserve) is an ideology based on a negative attitude to change. Proponents believe that change is either not needed at all, or should take place slowly and gradually.
        The conservative, in the conditions of Russia in 2000, is an ardent communist. In the conditions of, say, the war of the American south and north, he is a supporter of moderate liberals, that is, D. Washington, with rights for free citizens, and a personal plantation with slaves, who is a talking tool, in the conditions of which Nigeria is a conservative who advocates maintaining a tribal system.
        And the political views of our dearest guarantor - the purest water - American liberalism of the late 18th and early 19th centuries, based on the freedom to earn money for everyone, and the estate built on entering a certain circle and stuffing the wallet. Wild such liberalism, the simplest. Complete freedom for the elect, and with the sticks of those slaves who imagined that he was not a working cattle. You would ... Terms first studied with which you use. And then the right word comes out funny.
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Where is the liberal GDP? He is a conservative of pure water.

        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        You can say anything.

        Putin is lying?
  • askort154 April 5 2020 11: 18 New
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    Even on the VO website, the "liberals" ran through and were exposed with "minuses", fearing to enter into a discussion. This once again says that - "ultra-liberalism" is inherently unable to create, in their blood - resists and destroys.
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      hold on)) ... this is the way ... and liberals and all-fussers ... who poorly manage their backside and a lot of critics and advice ... it became a bit too much ... but those who are well versed in the subject of aircraft construction less and less)) ...
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      Quote: askort154
      This once again says that - "ultra-liberalism" is inherently unable to create, in their blood - resists and destroys.


    3. Campanella April 5 2020 12: 38 New
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      Liberalism is inherently not a constructive construct, but perhaps in combination with others, it has the right to life.
  • rocket757 April 5 2020 11: 27 New
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    Empty chatter can you change the situation in the country? NO!
    About nothing.
  • iouris April 5 2020 11: 31 New
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    The real problem is different: there is a "restructuring", and everything is in smoke. "Coronavirus" covered "acceleration" like a bull to a sheep.
    1. Campanella April 5 2020 12: 40 New
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      More details pzhlst.
      There are a lot of versions, but really in this smoke it is not clear yet who and what is trying to catch
  • Mavrikiy April 5 2020 11: 36 New
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    Liberals, like a monkey with a grenade, can not decide: Tolley in Russia is a dictatorship, or democracy. But yell, gallop and yell, the soul (although the monkeys? .....) requires.
    1. Campanella April 5 2020 12: 48 New
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      I would not rush to the extreme. No models are 100% perfect.
      A little absolutism, a little democracy, a little anarchy, the main thing is that at the same time a person feels like a man and enjoys life.
      1. Mavrikiy April 5 2020 16: 28 New
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        , the main thing is that at the same time a person feels like a man and enjoys life.
        For all the good, against all the bad. belay How to do that. request
        The main thing is to bring out the liberals, so that the state grows stronger, which alone can provide us with protection, security, living and working conditions. Then all will be happy. request
        1. Campanella April 5 2020 18: 12 New
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          That's not sure. Liberasts, of course, are a destructive element, but they are needed in a certain proportion, as an example of what you need to fight with, and so that society does not turn into a swamp.
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          Yes, to shoot their bastards all to one, yes? ))) And in orderly rows, all as one forward, to a brighter future! )
  • silberwolf88 April 5 2020 11: 48 New
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    The traitor (and the whole way of the Latins and others like them) never speaks the truth and deed ... it is always a lie and distortion ... never get fooled by such ... all their info in the basket ... values ​​are no noise and smoke ...
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    The Liberasts are completely driven.
  • Yury Siritsky April 5 2020 11: 53 New
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    Putin did the right thing. On the ground, they must decide whether to do universal quarantine or only partial. As for Latynina, it’s her hobby to cheat on everyone.
  • Dart2027 April 5 2020 11: 57 New
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    I read the comments and wonder. What is the problem? Those in the field will solve current issues? So now the president did not track every sneeze on the ground. The vertical of power? And what is she going somewhere?
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    Only the procession to the king-priest, led by priest Gapon, will save.
    -The king does not know how the people live, and what the boyars do.
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      And you in the role of Gapon?
      1. Mebius April 5 2020 12: 40 New
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        Quote: NordUral
        And you in the role of Gapon?

        Well, Gaponov and the slutters here divorced exponentially .. Nothing can be written from the heart, only scolding the authorities and Russia .. That's wink I was fooled here .. God be their judge to the demons of neoliberalism.!
        So he wrote correctly and it reassures me .. All good luck and take care of children and grandchildren !!!!
        1. NordUral April 5 2020 12: 43 New
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          And for me, Partizan, only the victory of a single candidate from the people in the elections is next October. The first option is desirable.
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            neither the king nor the priests nor the boyars will give up power without a fight. And they will win the election even if no one comes. The turnout will be 71%. And ahead edros with the eternal and the lawyer.
            Type the people and the party are one.
            And the priests are a separate column.
            1. NordUral April 5 2020 14: 51 New
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              Well, Fate on a crooked mare will not go round. But a rebellion needs a foundation. And this may be another and insolent falsification. But for this it is necessary at least once for all the people to go to the polls and vote wisely.
              1. Old partisan April 5 2020 15: 24 New
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                As our grandfathers said
                Our cause is right
                Victory will be ours!
                1. NordUral April 5 2020 18: 17 New
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                  It will be, if we have time, Partizan!
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              Quote: Old Partisan
              neither the king nor the priests nor the boyars will give up power without a fight. And they will win the election even if no one comes. The turnout will be 71%. And ahead edros with the eternal and the lawyer.
              Type the people and the party are one.
              And the priests are a separate column.

              "Choi" separate? You "hold together" that, do not loosen ... / sarcasm /
  • Snail N9 April 5 2020 12: 00 New
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    ABOUT! we have a new gradation of "liberals" - "ultra-liberals"! I wonder how they differ from the "classical liberals"? Can anyone explain? winked
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    2. _Sergei_ April 5 2020 12: 57 New
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      These liberals are on the Echo, their names are to be seen. But in VO these are ultra-liberals, they hide under nicknames and do not like the country.
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        Liberals on "Echo" and this "Echo" itself is a studio of colloquial artists.
    3. askort154 April 5 2020 13: 33 New
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      Snail N9 ....ABOUT! we have a new gradation of "liberals" - "ultra-liberals"! I wonder how they differ from the "classical liberals"? Can anyone explain?

      In a nutshell". Latin Liberal is - "free".
      Everyone wants to achieve this status, but only at the initial stage.
      Even Peter the Great can be attributed to the "liberal" of that time.
      But since the "Latin times", the world has undergone multiple deformations, as a result
      why "liberalism" propagated into currents and "subspecies":
      - individualistic,
      - pluralistic
      - cultural
      - anarcho liberalism,
      libertarianism.
      But the most widespread is “individualistic liberalism”, it is the most radical, which unites all the most negative available in
      ultra-liberal theory, which leads to the decomposition of personality .. It is actively used in the 21st century, for the psychological treatment of man and society as a whole. This is clearly visible on generations of the 21st century, with a view to their future.
      This strategy is developed and funded by the United States. Do not blame me for conspiracy theories. Everything is in reality and in plain sight. The first successful experiment was conducted in Europe. Ultra-liberalism has already been thoroughly settled there;
      - “tolerance” has already shown its negativity in practice, even England
      groans. European traditions and "blood" are being washed away.
      - widespread adoption of same-sex marriage, parent number 1 and number 2, Europe adopted,
      - Europe does not have its army, it has become completely dependent on the United States.
      - color revolutions and "yellow vests" in the "right countries" have become familiar.
      - all legal powers of the UN are reduced to "O".
      - financiers are fighting to reduce the population by
      Earth, supporting local wars. They need no more than 6 billion.
      population. This is the optimal figure for their activities.
      I will not list further. I’ll ask one question - who benefits from all this? hi
      1. Snail N9 April 5 2020 14: 43 New
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        I’ll ask one question - who benefits from all this?

        Ultpatriotam, no? lol It is necessary to blame someone all the time for failures in the economy, failures in politics, inability to manage, enrichment of a handful of the state close to the top officials, rampant corruption, monstrous property stratification and a drop in the standard of living of the main part of the population ... Initially, the "liberals were blamed" ", the State Department and non-profit organizations with banks, then, when the" hillock "said that he was the most important" liberal ", it became somehow embarrassing to blame the" liberals ", they came up with the" ultra-liberals "-that they are to blame for everything, and also .... the State Department, NPOs, bulked and .... coronavirus .... yes hi .
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          Snail N9.... blaming the "liberals", they came up with the "ultra-liberals" -that they are to blame for everything, and also .... the State Department, NPOs, bulked and .... coronavirus ...

          You have a "mess" in judgments - "people mixed up in a bunch of horses."
          Liberalism is an ideology. And since now in Russia there is no clear-cut ideology of the further development of society, a holy place does not exist. Therefore, on the resulting ideological void, after the collapse of the ideology of communism, they are trying hard to sow us
          ultra-liberalism. The older and middle generation are not being fooled by this, and young people can easily. Given the availability of up-to-date information,
          sown seeds take root quickly. That is the problem in the further development strategy of Russia. There is no clear ideology where we are going, what awaits us beyond the horizon. And the “bulkers” you brought and other Russophobes,
          they can not only change anything, but even offer. They only act as irritants to society, achieving instability and buildup. At whose expense do they do all this? You try to collect at least half a hundred people, draw them posters and banners, convince them to follow you for free. Current youth will not go for free.
          And where to get the money for this? So they give them. ! Who? Hedgehog understands - those who do not want to strengthen Russia in the international arena.
          De Gaulle was ousted by "student riots", who organized them?
          To whom was it profitable? The answer is known - USA!
    4. Overlock April 5 2020 23: 42 New
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      Quote: Snail N9
      ABOUT! we have a new gradation of "liberals" - "ultra-liberals"! I wonder how they differ from the "classical liberals"? Can anyone explain?

      something like this: liberals are for Putin, and ultra-liberals are against Putin.
  • Oleg Zorin April 5 2020 12: 16 New
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    Zaliz counted
  • Russian Bear_2 April 5 2020 12: 25 New
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    These liberels are not so.
    1. NordUral April 5 2020 12: 34 New
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      Is that all right for you, Bear? I’m not a liberalist or even a liberal, but I don’t like all this. If you can’t lead, tell me bluntly: I’m tired. There will be patriots in the country worthy of this post.
      1. Vadim237 April 5 2020 17: 16 New
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        No one will adapt to you - whoever he will be appointed and will be the new president or whether Mishustin is one of the security forces, there are no others to this post and will not appear in the next four years - there is no mass and no authority.
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        Cool you, 237th. Already sweat from fear.
      3. ApJlekuHo April 6 2020 15: 33 New
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        Everything in words is as simple as in your empty head.
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          I won’t answer Bot either.
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            Here you have it all, through the "ass", say one thing, and do the exact opposite.
  • Victor March 47 April 5 2020 12: 28 New
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    The technique that the martial arts specialist took for this human ballast — using the opponent’s argument to the detriment of him — worked. This shit fell into a hole that had been dug for many years. Let him live there, if he can.
  • Victor March 47 April 5 2020 12: 31 New
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    ABOUT! we have a new gradation of "liberals" - "ultra-liberals"! I wonder how they differ from the "classical liberals"? Can anyone explain? winked

    Just a liberal in the name of love for democracy (to the one as he understands it) can sell his homeland. Ultaliberal sells everything.
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      Quote: Victor March 47
      Just a liberal in the name of love for democracy (to the one as he understands it) can sell his homeland. Ultaliberal sells everything.

      you can not do it this way! Putin has repeatedly stated that he is a liberal. Next, I'm afraid to continue
  • NordUral April 5 2020 12: 32 New
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    The "guarantor" simply merged.
    1. Vadim237 April 5 2020 17: 18 New
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      It seems like you have been merging for six years, merging, merging, merging, but the drain seems to be clogged - it does not work.
      1. NordUral April 5 2020 18: 13 New
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        The reason is simple - there are still a lot of people like you, Vadim.
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        Quote: Vadim237
        It seems like you have been merging for six years, merging, merging, merging, but the drain seems to be clogged

        why clogged?
        HIS frauds:
        - pension reform
        - rejection of the constitution
    2. Overlock April 5 2020 23: 46 New
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      Quote: NordUral
      The "guarantor" simply merged.

      as always! "Kursk" was dying, he was in the country and sat.
  • Radikal April 5 2020 13: 05 New
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    [quote = Shovels] [quote = antique]

    As for me, this was Putin’s main jamb in recent times, this trip to Kommunarka.

    In a crisis, managers must lead, not ride anywhere, taking the brain to lower-level executives and performers with their visits

    Anyone who has served in the army will tell you this. [/ Quote] Samopiar and taking care of one’s own rating are sacred, they don’t fit into army logic and expediency. lol At any ... a political strategist will tell you. hi
  • fyvaprold April 5 2020 13: 05 New
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    How many tantrums and clicks got out !!! But no. All the same faces. Always whining and hysterical for any reason. Putin forbade him to work. Really for all the previous months, "tireless work" have not been able to accumulate a "safety cushion" to sit at home for a month? Or did they drop all the money for Adam's apple girls in Thailand? Hopefully enough money for a new iPhone? wassat Although no, all whineers are “small and medium-sized businessmen,” who will certainly go bankrupt. laughing Although judging by the frequency and number of comments from the hardening public, they had not worked too hard before, because whining, hysteria, and kibbotzha in comments in 365/24 mode did not go very well with fruitful work. But you, ladies and gentlemen of hysterics, do not reduce the degree of inadequacy, read fortunes in kamenty with redoubled zeal, now there is plenty of time. Better yet, go to the next “insanity”, I sincerely hope that it will not be limited to cooling “̶д̶и̶л̶д̶о̶”, a stick-posting, maybe someone will “self-isolate” for a couple of years. You look and acquire some profession, say, seamstresses, minders, and for the majority of 2% of the substance - this will be the first work experience in life. laughing laughing laughing
    Well, now on the topic. The decision to transfer part of the authority to the heads of regions is logical and only true in the current situation. On the ground, information is more operational and measures will be taken faster, excluding the transfer of information to the Fed. the center and receiving from there the central office and orders. This is understood by everyone who has more than one gyrus (the one that shares the ass). Although some especially ̶i̶s̶t̶e̶r̶i̶ch̶n̶y̶e̶ gifted characters have already seen fear on the face of the president. Or is it not from hysteria, but from "substances"? The dilemma, however. laughing laughing
    PS: Citizens clicks, start to minus, I want to know the exact number of tantrums on the VO. good
    1. AU Ivanov. April 5 2020 14: 09 New
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      Most of the fraudsters are small businesses and self-employed who either understated profits or did not pay taxes from the word “in general” and were even proud of it. Well, what are they counting on? What measure you measure, this will be measured to you. Cruel? But fair.
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Most of the fraudsters are small businesses and self-employed who either understated profits or did not pay taxes from the word “in general” and were even proud of it. Well, what are they counting on? What measure you measure, this will be measured to you. Cruel? But fair.

        I absolutely agree with you. Although calling all the hysteria businessmen, I was ironic. Most of the whoopers are mother’s carbonarians who haven’t earned a single ruble in their lives, the rest are “creaks” and “office plankton,” and speculators cannot be discounted either. As you rightly noted, social obligations, in the form of taxes, they don’t want, they "Rights ™"come on, they want to hang out and help from the state, of course. Usually they are called" social parasites. " hi
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          Quote: fyvaprold
          The decision to transfer part of the authority to the heads of regions is logical and only true in the current situation.

          These chants want Chukotka to be like in Moscow: checkpoints at the entrance to the camp Pass to visit the tundra wassat
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          small businesses and self-employed who either underestimated profits or did not pay taxes from the word "in general" and were even proud of it.

          Definitely yes I know a bunch of these firsthands And about violations of all kinds in this area winked You can write a hundred novels And all about crime
      2. Vadim237 April 5 2020 17: 26 New
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        They are loving guys rummaging through garbage dumps and picking in barrels, often photographs with this case are laid out here under the heading "Life brought garbage to the power of the country" - speaking on its own behalf for the whole country.
  • Radikal April 5 2020 13: 11 New
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    Quote: Spade
    Quote: Antique
    Now, if we assume a hypothetical situation. Putin in Moscow, continues to work actively, takes all responsible decisions by himself, meets with people and gets the worst of it.

    Then you would be the first here to be hysterical about "why he did not self-isolate after the joint of Peskov and contacts with Protsenko and continues to infect the people"
    laughing laughing laughing

    As for me, this was Putin’s main jamb in recent times, this trip to Kommunarka.

    In a crisis, managers must lead, not ride anywhere, taking the brain to lower-level executives and performers with their visits

    Anyone who has served in the army will tell you this.

    Samopiar, and your own rating is "sacred." They do not fit into any army logic and expediency. At any ... a political strategist will tell you. laughing hi
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    Latynina, with her chicken brains, is trying to think, as if she hadn’t got into a psychiatric hospital .... unlike some artists, she has nothing to beat
  • mag nit April 5 2020 13: 26 New
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    The leader is reset.
    1. Round Smesharik April 5 2020 14: 23 New
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      Quote: mag nit
      The leader is reset.

      It’s the liberties reset, here we are watching them how they react
      And they can’t escape and they’re afraid to go to Bolotnaya))))
      And the grants no longer pay .. Wake up so with a hangover and silence on all phones))))
      They will start yelling at the windows, and there silence ..))) Then they will start scribbling on soap, like what stock and where and how much .. AND AGAIN SILENCE !!! laughing
  • Radikal April 5 2020 13: 32 New
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    Quote: Cheldon
    Quote: Antique
    During the speech, fear and insecurity were clearly visible on the President's face.

    no physiognomist from you. laughing
    Quote: Antique
    Putin in Moscow, continues to work actively, makes all responsible decisions for himself

    Listed the decisions that “SAM” should take?
    What decisions have not been made?
    Quote: Antique
    dating people

    those. a trip to Kommunarka and a meeting with the head physician, with the sick - is it NOT CARE?
    haven’t met you yet? Oh well.

    And you, my friend, is a revolutionary ?! And to which party you deign to belong? Eser, Menshevik? Or "Octobrist"? Or maybe the Bund? wassat
  • Round Smesharik April 5 2020 14: 17 New
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    The article is called “excite the Libers” .. Most often, such articles, otherwise they would tear and rush here in connection with the weekend (night cobs are closed and airfields too) ..!
    In general, the main ones in Russia all work, as usual!
    So go on and yell ..)))))
    1. Vadim237 April 5 2020 17: 33 New
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      And the most important thing was that they also covered up the issuance of rations in foreign embassies - now the embassies themselves will not let these guys go, in short, grant-eaters are eating up grants.
      1. Revival April 5 2020 18: 47 New
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        And the rest, on which they do not care what they eat up?
        What do people without salary who are forbidden to work eat up?
    2. Revival April 5 2020 18: 48 New
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      Round Smesharik, absolutely agree "round Smesharik"!
    3. Revival April 5 2020 18: 50 New
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      The article is called call all the "bots otdeblet salary"
      1. AU Ivanov. April 5 2020 21: 17 New
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        And underage at what salary? Foreign exchange, of course ...
  • evgen1221 April 5 2020 14: 29 New
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    Of course, in our kingdom of crooked mirrors, many who croak just to get their own score more (all without exception). For this, I have no desire to seriously comment on this hype.
  • Aliken April 5 2020 14: 30 New
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    He recalled the cartoon, "but the woman-yaga is against," no matter what, against everything.
  • fa2998 April 5 2020 14: 34 New
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    Quote: Red
    make submissive individuals out of people

    The word "individuals" is inappropriate here, say, SUBMISSIONS.
    And local independence and power begins with MONEY. It means all the money in the country in Moscow, and he gave the rights, they say, fight the coronavirus. And when everything is established, there is a reason for some to dismiss for omissions. hi
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      Quote: fa2998
      Quote: Red
      make submissive individuals out of people

      The word "individuals" is inappropriate here, say, SUBMISSIONS.
      And local independence and power begins with MONEY. It means all the money in the country in Moscow, and he gave the rights, they say, fight the coronavirus. And when everything is established, there is a reason for some to dismiss for omissions. hi

      Well, it’s not in vain that avatars have appeared among people like you! Medal of Honor ".. Shameful you .. fool

      It would be better already in the avatars "medal for victory in the Cold War over the USSR!" they sculpted themselves
      It suits you all better ..!

      Judah’s medal is called ..))))
      How is it all hushed up ..?
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    Ultraliberals Concerned About Why “Sole Leader” Has Transferred More Authority to Regional Authorities
    =======================
    To check for "lice" ...
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    Quote: Round Smesharik
    Medal of Honor ".. Shameful you ..

    It’s not you who handed me the medal, insignificance! And the country was called differently.
    1. Vadim237 April 5 2020 17: 40 New
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      This country has been gone for 30 years, brought its own to bankruptcy and ruined it - face it.
  • the same doctor April 5 2020 18: 29 New
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    There is no contradiction. Obliged to decide - give me money. He didn’t give money, right without money is just a mockery.
    .
    On the whole, Putin’s thought is understandable — each region has its own characteristics. But Putin’s refusal from overall coordination is a mistake. For example, Muscovites (who can) must leave for their country houses. But the conditions for self-isolation are not spelled out. As a result, those who leave become victims of local arbitrariness. And some areas generally blocked the road, do not let in and fine those who come in large numbers. Who should resolve this contradiction? It’s cool to decide, not in a snap. Not like Minsk in 2014 or weekend in 2020.
  • Revival April 5 2020 18: 41 New
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    Why such a "good" article is not signed?
    Shame on you?
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      Why such a "good" article is not signed?
      Shame on you?
      The east wind, and in fact the complete calm is the pseudonym of the team of pseudo-patriots-makers. The article is just as hysterical, but without facts and logic, like the previous ones, which the woman most likely wrote. I think so.
  • Revival April 5 2020 18: 45 New
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    Nameless Author, well, if you pretend to be, I chew a little bit:
    We need a “single leader” only for good news, to make it beautiful, but as something bad and “no money”, then you can immediately entrust others with it.
    So see?
  • Pacifist with AK April 5 2020 18: 54 New
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    Suppose I flew in, say, from Mars .... I studied the Russian language .... mastered the Internet .... went to VO and ..... All my eight eyes crawled out of their orbits, a shiver appeared in 5,9,14 and 22 limbs, stood on end pseudo-flagella on the upper end of the body ...... Why, you ask ?????????
    There is such a terrible territory on our third planet from our star - Russia .... hellish terrain .... At the head is a clan of murderers, liars and torturers, led by some terrible Pu, whose task is to spread rot and humiliate Aboriginal people, torment the elderly and rob the young ... A terrible mutant does not sleep day and night, destroying and ruining his dark empire ..... he is surrounded by some Tatis and round fools .... and if it weren’t for the luminous power of the truth-loving tribes of liberdroids, the terrible would bring to send everyone to the raw grave ... for, as you know, everything that the terrible Pu does is all to the detriment of the earth-Russians ....
    ..... I don’t know your Pu, he did not shine on Mars ...
    Well, is my anti-science fiction good? Ah, enlightened ones?
    By the way, to us, Martians, your horizontal lines to a black hole))))) wassat
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      Quote: Pacifist with AK
      Well, is my anti-science fiction good? Ah, enlightened ones?

    2. Revival April 6 2020 05: 30 New
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      Here is what it means to wake up after "a lot of everything" and immediately, without even washing up, scribble comments))
      PS
      How is it on Mars?
  • Victor March 47 April 5 2020 20: 23 New
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    The reason is simple - there are still a lot of people like you, Vadim.

    As long as there is someone like you, he will be.
  • Victor March 47 April 5 2020 20: 27 New
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    Quote: Revival
    Why such a "good" article is not signed?
    Shame on you?

    You need to have a head on your shoulders, not a stack of straw. Then it will be clear that if the article is not signed, it means that it is on behalf of the editors.
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      So what's stopping you? Self-isolation?
      How it ends sell your haystack and buy a head. Success))
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