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Monument to Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev demolished in Prague

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Monument to Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev demolished in Prague

In Prague, a monument was demolished to Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev, thereby implementing the decree of September 12, 2019 on the dismantling of the monument. This was announced by the head of the Prague-6 district, Ondřej Kolář, who initiated the demolition of the monument.


Today's removal of the bronze monument to Marshal Konev from the pedestal on Interbrigade Square is the last tone in the study that broke out in the area in 1980 (the year the monument was erected - approx.). His echo will continue to resonate in a museum dedicated to the events of the XNUMXth century in Czechoslovakia and thus will contribute to an objective explanation of our recent stories

- said the headman.

Demolition of the monument was confirmed by a member of the leadership of the municipality of Prague, Gana Marvanova, who stated that the aforementioned museum had entered into a long-term agreement with the authorities of the Prague-6 district on transferring the monument to Marshal Konev in his collection.

Recall that the decision to transfer the monument to Marshal Konev in one of the museums in Prague and to install in its place "a new monument to the heroes of the liberators of Prague in 1945" was made in September last year. Prior to this, the monument was desecrated more than once, dousing it with paint.

At the end of November last year, the head of the Prague-6 district, where a monument to the Soviet Marshal was erected, said that a monument to General Vlasov might appear in its place.

Ondřej Kolář, who is the head of the district, explains his intention to erect a monument to Vlasov by the fact that the “Vlasovites” supposedly liberated Prague from the fascist invaders, and not the Soviet army. The claims to Marshal Konev at the head of the district are that in 1968, the Soviet military leader "personally supported the conduct of information intelligence before the invasion of the Warsaw Pact troops in Czechoslovakia." By the way, this is reflected on the plaque on the monument to the Marshal in Prague.

Ondřej Kolář also claims that the capital of Czechoslovakia in 1945 allegedly was able to get rid of the fascist invaders with the help of the “Vlasovites”. The Soviet tankers who arrived in Prague "have already entered the liberated city."
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  1. depressant
    depressant April 3 2020 15: 52 New
    35
    The scoundrel, the mayor of Prague, cynically declared: "He was without a mask!"
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 3 2020 15: 55 New
      28
      Quote: depressant
      The scoundrel, the mayor of Prague, cynically declared: "He was without a mask!"

      Here, judging by our law, for vandalism ... Then you look, they’ll think ... they’ll forget to come to Moscow and then immediately go down the forest, wake up under the USSR anthem .. re-educated, so to speak .. But there will be no sense of indignation .. they will continue PR on the blood of a Soviet soldier ..
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan April 3 2020 15: 59 New
        54
        Quote: Svarog
        forget to come to Moscow and then immediately go down the forest

        He is unlikely to go to Russia, why would he. Czechoslovakia was the weapons forge of the Third Reich. With trepidation, they recall the old days and cooperation with Hitler.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella April 3 2020 16: 12 New
          10
          Well, here the Czech boasted, saying that they were almost Germans.
          1. major147
            major147 April 3 2020 17: 32 New
            +3
            Quote: Campanella
            Well, here the Czech boasted, saying that they were almost Germans.

            I've heard. Is that the one with the "butterfly"?
            1. Campanella
              Campanella April 3 2020 19: 15 New
              +3
              Yes, he is the most.
        2. major147
          major147 April 3 2020 17: 31 New
          +8
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Quote: Svarog
          forget to come to Moscow and then immediately go down the forest

          He is unlikely to go to Russia, why would he. Czechoslovakia was the weapons forge of the Third Reich. With trepidation, they recall the old days and cooperation with Hitler.

          Yes, and fought against the Soviet Union next to the Germans.
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          1. Pirogov
            Pirogov April 3 2020 17: 54 New
            20
            Quote: Sgan
            The Soviet army of the 45th under the command of Marshal Konev is a liberator and savior. The Soviet army of the 68th year is the invaders and killers. It is a pity that the Czechs 68th year overshadowed the 45th. Crimes of the Soviet Army of the 68th year should not overshadow the salvation of Czechs by the Soviet Army in the 45th year ...

            They just didn’t work in the year 68, now it climbs out ..
          2. Svarog
            Svarog April 3 2020 19: 42 New
            10
            Quote: Sgan
            Crimes of the Soviet Army of the 68th year should not overshadow the salvation of Czechs by the Soviet Army in the 45th year ...

            What are the crimes of the Soviet army .. The Soviet army cleaned up their names ... unlike Russia, which calves with Ukraine .. the Soviet army did not chew snot .. and as history shows, it did right!
            My uncle served as a tankman in Czechoslovakia, in one of the villages where they stopped to get water, vilely from the underbody, they killed one colleague, stabbed him in the back .. his brother, who served in the same unit, spent all his ammunition .. if I’m not mistaken, I shot 40 shells, the village was simply wiped off the face of the earth .. Then they gave the tank for examination, wondered how the gun could stand it ... but now, this guy was shot later.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 3 2020 20: 09 New
              +4
              Quote: Svarog
              What are the crimes of the Soviet army ..

              Ours, that ... There the Germans raged. They forbade us to shoot, the Germans opened fire to defeat at the slightest hint or threat.
              I read about such a case.
              At one of the airfields in some small town a board was waiting. Then the Czechs arrived, settled down on the GDP and had a picnic. On our attention "Zero"
              Then the Germans drove up on their business. They asked ours what was the matter. Well told. They shook their heads, raised their submachine guns and put the whole company on the spot. Then they went and brought the mayor (well, or whatever he is called there) and ordered to remove, as they put it, "garbage"
              After this incident, no one approached the airfield for a cannon shot.
              1. Serwid
                Serwid April 3 2020 22: 40 New
                -6
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Ours, that ... There the Germans raged.

                As far as I know, the GDR did not introduce its troops.
                1. Victorio
                  Victorio April 3 2020 23: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: Serwid
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Ours, that ... There the Germans raged.

                  As far as I know GDR its troops did not enter.

                  ====
                  no, they were and acted harshly, there is enough material about this
              2. dedusik
                dedusik April 3 2020 22: 57 New
                +4
                How is it not introduced? winked Yes, there were almost as many as ours
                That's right. The same thing happened at the rallies, as soon as the first provocative, and not only, shot from the side of the protesters sounded, as the GDR immediately opened fire on the crowd. Our weapons were forbidden to use. In 1968, I served in the Special Forces Aviation Administration, sat on alert No. 1, with gas masks, skating rifles and assault rifles, without cartridges, so the political information told us about everything that was happening there from the second hand - we had 3 points there, ZAS communication, so that there was plenty of information ..
            2. 16329
              16329 April 3 2020 22: 16 New
              +3
              I don’t believe it, it wasn’t like that; our people in Czechoslovakia did not shoot cannons in the villages
              The Soviet army behaved very gently, political agencies and the leadership very closely monitored the behavior of Soviet troops in the "fraternal" Czechoslovakia
          3. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 3 2020 19: 54 New
            -3
            Do you even understand what words you deserve?
            Yes, look away admins at least 10 minutes, you would say that ...
            And you perfectly understand that you will not hear and use it.
            Just as you and your ancestors went on the attack hiding behind a "human shield", so you use our laws.
            Go away, don't bring people.
          4. Hto tama
            Hto tama April 3 2020 21: 05 New
            +1
            Crimes of the Poles, did you mean? No, didn’t forget who mentions them now, these are the brothers who slaughtered them before WWII and during their uprising am Outgrow your training manual, Troll, here (in VO) there are no naive ones, do not stir up anger against people like you, who sell everything for 30 pieces of silver angry
          5. Serwid
            Serwid April 3 2020 22: 37 New
            -1
            Quote: Sgan
            The Soviet army of the 68th year is the invaders and killers.

            And how many Czechs were killed by these killers?
            1. beer-youk
              beer-youk April 4 2020 17: 10 New
              0
              Much more, dozens of times! Scour the English-language sites and you will see that before the introduction of the ATS troops, 110 to 170 THOUSAND people were killed, and after the "invasion" from 0,8 to 1,1 THOUSAND! Something like this!
        4. beer-youk
          beer-youk April 4 2020 17: 03 New
          +1
          It remains to wait until they erect a monument to Obergruppenfuhrer Heydrich, who destroyed this (obscene) nation under the root!
      2. Mitroha
        Mitroha April 3 2020 16: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: depressant
        the mayor of Prague, cynically declared: "He was without a mask!"


        Scoundrels sir
      3. 4ekist
        4ekist April 3 2020 17: 48 New
        +7
        What are you going to judge them for? This is their worldview, their principles. It’s just that there were some shortcomings in their time, and these are their followers. But just like that, you can’t leave it on the brakes, it still comes back to them and will be remembered.

        ... During the anti-German Prague uprising on May 5, 1945, the SS Volunteer Company "St. Wenceslas" (Svatovaclavska dobrovolnicka) was formed from young activists of various Czech fascist organizations that appeared in the country during the occupation, and members of the SS special forces (Oddily ZZ) rota ZZ). The company joined the German garrison in the Czech capital.
        In early March 1945, secret negotiations were held in Germany on the urgent mobilization of Czech and Slovak volunteers, who were supposed to delay the advance of the Soviet troops in Germany and Czechoslovakia.
        The initiative to attract Czechs and Slovaks to the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS was put forward by Emmanuel Moravec, Minister for Youth Affairs of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, supported by the Czech Anti-Bolshevik League and even the Protectorate government.
        The idea was also supported by Dr. Toyner (Czech fascist, one of the leaders of the Ministry of Youth Affairs of the Protectorate), Dr. Victorin and the German consultant Dr. Kranihe. According to the plans, the Germans were going to attract at least a thousand volunteers.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt April 4 2020 04: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: 4ekist
          What are you going to judge them for? This is their worldview, their principles.

          In 1938, they surrendered their beloved Czechoslovakia to the Germans without firing a single shot. Having at the same time an excellently armed and fully combat-ready army of several million bayonets. And will they still tell tales that they freed themselves? They are even ready to attribute the liberation of Prague to anyone, even Vlasov, but not the Red Army. To demolish all "monuments" to the White Czechs in Russia, especially in Penza, with a bulldozer. Who the White Czechs are and what they did on the territory of Russia, everyone knows, but from the boundless kindness of the Russian people, they also built monuments with this.
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      1. jovanni
        jovanni April 3 2020 16: 43 New
        +4
        Our Russian lesson is a good one in history .. Don’t do good, you won’t get evil! And if you have done good, do not leave the monuments, they are abused by envy ..

        We will never learn these lessons. Unfortunately, but maybe fortunately. Simply our people are characterized by kindness and selflessness. Stop doing good, stop being yourself. And yes, monuments must be erected in the homeland. We have a lot of heroes, but the Motherland is big, there is enough space. Homeland, for which they shed blood and gave their lives. We will not forget ...
    3. Finches
      Finches April 3 2020 16: 00 New
      11
      Here's how to respond adequately to such? To write down what needs to be demolished in Prague - the howl will begin, to wipe oneself off - pride does not allow ... There is only one thing left - to meet the Czech on the streets of the slain city on the Neva and fill his face with all the proletarian hatred - there will be no sense in this, but, perhaps, getting moral satisfaction!
      1. depressant
        depressant April 3 2020 16: 07 New
        24
        No need to beat the mugs of the Czechs, colleague. Residents of Prague fought for the monument, defended it, marched against the mayor. And the mayor took advantage of the fact that because of the coronavirus people were sitting at home, nobody was in the streets, no one knew that the monument would be demolished. Secretly demolished!
        1. Caretaker
          Caretaker April 3 2020 16: 42 New
          +5
          Quote: depressant
          ... Residents of Prague fought for the monument, defended it, marched against the mayor. And the mayor took advantage of the fact that because of the coronavirus people were sitting at home, on the streets of no one ...

          I wonder who in the Czech Republic chooses the mayor and head of the Prague-6 district?
        2. Pavel73
          Pavel73 April 3 2020 18: 37 New
          +1
          Dirty and mean soul.
      2. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan April 3 2020 16: 08 New
        -5
        Quote: Finches
        There is only one thing left - to meet the Czech on the streets of the shale city on the Neva and to fill his face with all the proletarian hatred - there will be no sense in this, but it is possible to receive moral satisfaction!

        Then you sit in the chamber to the homeless. I do not advise.
        1. Finches
          Finches April 3 2020 16: 10 New
          +3
          This is how the Motherland is for sale - a Czech must be put in a cell in a cell, and not a Russian peasant who is offended by a power ...
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r April 3 2020 16: 20 New
            0
            Quote: Finches
            This is how the Motherland is for sale - a Czech must be put in a cell in a cell, and not a Russian peasant who is offended by a power ...

            In conscience, yes, according to the Law no! fellow
            1. Finches
              Finches April 3 2020 16: 22 New
              +3
              And the monuments to the Liberators are demolished the same according to the law ... Besides the legal one, there is also a human law!
              1. neri73-r
                neri73-r April 3 2020 16: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: Finches
                And the monuments to the Liberators are demolished the same according to the law ... Besides the legal one, there is also a human law!

                You, apparently, did not understand me. I meant that face can be filled in good conscience, but according to the Law it is impossible, in bomzhatnik.
                1. Finches
                  Finches April 3 2020 16: 38 New
                  -1
                  Why didn’t I understand? I understood! But still I want to fill the Czech face, especially the Prague citizen ... laughing
                  1. Caretaker
                    Caretaker April 3 2020 17: 04 New
                    0
                    Quote: Finches
                    And if you get beaten in Prague, for Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who betrayed our friends in the Czech Republic?

                    And if you get beaten in Prague, for Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who betrayed our friends in the Czech Republic?
                    1. Finches
                      Finches April 3 2020 17: 16 New
                      +1
                      It seems to me that Gorbachev and Yeltsin, and now also Nemtsov, are the national heroes of the Czech Republic ... laughing
                      1. Caretaker
                        Caretaker April 3 2020 17: 19 New
                        0
                        Quote: Finches
                        I think that Gorbachev and Yeltsin, ... national heroes of the Czech Republic ...

                        And the Czechs believe that these are our national heroes.
                        Czechs are different.
                      2. Finches
                        Finches April 3 2020 17: 27 New
                        +2
                        No. The Czechs could never stand us - this is a fact! Not like the Poles, of course, but anyway they have always been against us - since the time God knows what! Of course, they have reasons for this, you can’t argue ... Nevertheless, it would be right to fill the Czech face for demolition of the monument, but to get it for Gorbachev and Yeltsin would be the same! laughing Only I won’t go to the Czech Republic and I don’t advise you — I, because I’m afraid of creating an international scandal on the basis of great-power chauvinism, and you don’t feed our enemies with your money! They will gladly take your money, but they will not spit on you behind your back!
                      3. Caretaker
                        Caretaker April 3 2020 17: 32 New
                        0
                        Quote: Finches
                        The Czechs could never stand us - this is a fact!

                        I do not agree.
                        Quote: Finches
                        ... get for Gorbachev and Yeltsin - the same will be right!

                        You want, but this option does not suit me.
                      4. Finches
                        Finches April 3 2020 17: 33 New
                        0
                        And why is there to agree or disagree - if it has so historically developed! I also do not agree, but I can appreciate the justice of this act!
  • cost
    cost April 3 2020 16: 09 New
    11
    Monument to Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev demolished in Prague

    Well, and what will our leadership do on the eve of the 75th anniversary of Victory? Really pull on the brakes?
    In the USSR, ambassadors were recalled for less and diplomatic relations were torn
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 3 2020 16: 14 New
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      A note of protest will be put to their ambassador and all. There will be no breaks in dip relations. It's a shame, but we will smack again.
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  • Lelek
    Lelek April 3 2020 18: 03 New
    +5
    Quote: Finches
    Here's how to respond adequately to such?

    hi , Eugene.
    As my late friend Tolya Ryzhov used to say: "If someday I want to become a writer, then my first work will be called" SV *** CHI "." No words, no words, just mat.
    1. Finches
      Finches April 3 2020 18: 38 New
      +3
      It is hard to disagree with your friend, Leo, and Faina Ranevskaya! hi
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 3 2020 19: 49 New
      -2
      She has aphorisms for all occasions and for all times
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich April 3 2020 18: 50 New
    +2
    Ordinary people, residents of Russia and those who consider May 9 to be Victory Day - do not buy Czech goods, for example, Skoda cars (the plant belongs to Volkswagen), do not consume Czech beer Velkopopovitsky "goat's husband" ...
    1. Kronos
      Kronos April 3 2020 19: 36 New
      0
      With this approach, you simply can’t take foreign goods, because all that was bad was done against us
  • 4ekist
    4ekist April 3 2020 22: 35 New
    +1
    Not worth it. As they say, do not touch the shit, so as not to stink.
  • Vend
    Vend April 3 2020 16: 03 New
    +7
    And we continue to help Europe free of charge. Maybe enough already?
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 3 2020 16: 28 New
    +4
    Here THIS does not help in the fight against coronovirus! Sneaky little girl, fighting with history, and with common sense!
  • svp67
    svp67 April 3 2020 17: 02 New
    +4
    Quote: depressant
    Scoundrel

    I agree. Descendants of people ALL the war regularly stamping weapons for the army that killed our ancestors and at the last moment portrayed as "victims" could have behaved more modestly ... But what is already there is
    Quote: depressant
    mayor of Prague, cynically declared:

    Not the mayor, but the head of this district of the city
  • knn54
    knn54 April 3 2020 17: 17 New
    +8
    - Jiri Vaca: "Disrespect for the Czech liberators in the capital."
    - Tomasz Andel: “Without Konev and the Red Army, your grandparents would have ended up in German camps. You must understand this ... "
    - Joseph Halas: “Such a coward, the elder Kolarge, got what he wanted with the help of lies and vandalism. Followed the “mandatory rules”, so that during quarantine and the ban people gather, “proudly” remove the monument. I do not respect this deceiver. "
    At one time, President Milos Zeman gave an exhaustive description of those who are at war with the monuments.
    “Marshal Konev liberated not only Prague, but also the prisoners of Auschwitz. Those who struggle with monuments are cowards. Monuments cannot be protected. ”
  • iouris
    iouris April 3 2020 18: 21 New
    0
    He could not say that the state, whose marshal was Ivan Konev, lost the war and was erased from the political map. Do what you want!
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 3 2020 22: 35 New
      14
      there are already some individuals who believe that Germany was defending itself from the USSR ...
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  • Albert1988
    Albert1988 April 4 2020 13: 06 New
    +1
    Here's what I "liked", quote:
    "... A monument to General Vlasov may appear in its place," the end of the quote ...
    I think it’s very symptomatic, only one Vlasov will be put there ... not completely ...
    We must also put Chamberlain, Daladier and, of course, in the center of the composition, Adolf Eichmann ... Then the composition "The Liberators of Prague and Friends of the Czech Republic" will be historically and ideologically complete ...
    Then just play the funeral march!
  • Doctor
    Doctor April 3 2020 15: 52 New
    +9
    All the same, they are nits. Seized the opportunity to fight with the dead.
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok April 3 2020 15: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: Arzt
      All the same, they are nits. Seized the opportunity to fight with the dead.

      What does the "moment" have to do with it? This is an ongoing trend. According to the text of the article, the resolution was adopted on 12.09.2019.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 3 2020 15: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Arzt
      All the same, they are nits. Seized the opportunity to fight with the dead.

      Someone howl with a coronovirus, but ... with monuments
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan April 3 2020 16: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: Lipchanin
        with monuments

        Here with their monuments would be sorted out. Monument to Zhukov near the Kremlin in Moscow was dragged, no replacement was installed.
        Missing the Manege Square monument to George Zhukov was found outside the Moscow Ring Road in sawn form. The son of the sculptor Vyacheslav Klykov told Kommersant that he would personally go there to investigate what had happened.

        https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4300769
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 3 2020 15: 54 New
    +7
    Ondřej Kolarzh also claims that the capital of Czechoslovakia in 1945 allegedly managed to get rid of the fascist invaders with the help of the "Vlasovites".

    Yes? I won’t be surprised if they deliver to the American liberators a little later.
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      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 April 3 2020 16: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Mobius
        But the concentration camps in Poland were the most

        It's about the Czech Republic, actually ... request
        Quote: Mobius
        Think about it!
    2. Tuzik
      Tuzik April 3 2020 16: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      I won’t be surprised if a little later the Americans will be delivered

      Are there any monuments to them in Western Europe?
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 April 3 2020 16: 28 New
        0
        Quote: Tuzik
        Are there any monuments to them in Western Europe?

        I never asked these questions ... There are probably, how not to be?
        1. Tuzik
          Tuzik April 3 2020 20: 18 New
          +2
          At first I typed a monument to Eisenhower in Google, only in the USA it was highlighted, I typed Patton, yes, there is, and even in the Czech Republic, in Pilsen. By the way, the topic is interesting for monuments to the generals of the Second World War, maybe someone will write an article, I think it will be interesting to many.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 3 2020 17: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Yes? I won’t be surprised if they deliver to the American liberators a little later.

      And the Germans will be awarded for their "liberation" in 1938.
  • askort154
    askort154 April 3 2020 15: 55 New
    +4
    To each his own - who is fighting against viruses, who are against monuments. Oh, it’s not for nothing that viruses have often spread to planet Earth,
    human morality degenerates.
  • CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN April 3 2020 15: 55 New
    +5
    It’s easy to fight with monuments - they do not give change.
    Alas .... Czechs act with impunity.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 3 2020 16: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      It’s easy to fight with monuments - they do not give change.
      Alas .... Czechs act with impunity

      And the skakuasa and the pshek
      1. Alexey Z
        Alexey Z April 4 2020 18: 23 New
        +1
        But do not remember Russia? And for example, Dzerzhinsky?
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 4 2020 18: 26 New
          +1
          Is this someone else’s monument?
          We demolish Khatyn in response to the Pshek demolitions.
          But we can
    2. Igoresha
      Igoresha April 3 2020 16: 06 New
      +2
      because with impunity that the Russian Federation is economically frail and sanctions like Amer’s can’t. and the weak - beat
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 3 2020 15: 56 New
    +2
    Remember the story. Prague was freed from the Nazis later than Berlin. And it was not only time and territory.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin April 3 2020 15: 58 New
    -1
    and the installation in its place of "a new monument to the heroes-liberators of Prague in 1945",

    Clear. The hegemon will be surrounded by naglosax and a paddling pool
  • Mechanocleap
    Mechanocleap April 3 2020 15: 59 New
    +1
    It's easy to wave fists after a fight
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 3 2020 16: 01 New
    +1
    By "reciprocal gesture of courtesy" I propose to demolish the Prague-6 district and personally to the head of the district.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 3 2020 16: 01 New
    +3
    The Soviet tankmen who arrived in Prague "have already entered the liberated city."
    Therefore, many of them died? repeat
  • Masha
    Masha April 3 2020 16: 02 New
    +2
    Today's removal of the bronze monument to Marshal Konev from the pedestal on Interbrigade Square is the last tone in the study
    ....
    and this ....
    At the end of November last year, the head of the Prague-6 district, where a monument to the Soviet Marshal was erected, said that a monument to General Vlasov might appear in its place.

    not the last straw ????
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 3 2020 16: 02 New
    12
    Here are the cattle, but as they shouted on the radio on May 9, '45, the Russians help. My friend’s father fought on the T-34, told how it was. Everyone is drinking on the occasion of the Victory, and they were raised by alarm and at maximum speed to Prague to help.
    So thanked for the dead soldiers, scum.
  • Stalllker
    Stalllker April 3 2020 16: 05 New
    +2
    As one movie hero would say - "Petushara"
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 3 2020 16: 06 New
    0
    Can’t they raise the gas price? So to speak, tax on Russophobia ...
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  • 1536
    1536 April 3 2020 16: 13 New
    +3
    Throughout the Second World War, Czechoslovak factories produced military products for the fascist army. The Czechs fought as part of the Wehrmacht on the "Eastern Front". And, of course, they were not interested in the defeat of Germany.
    The Red Army in 1945 outstripped the Anglo-American troops, and occupied the lands of Czechoslovakia after the brilliantly carried out operation of the Prague operation on May 5-11, 1945, which was commanded by the Marshal of the USSR I.S. Konev. After the war, the USSR included this territory into the "socialist camp", giving Czechoslovakia the status of statehood. After the collapse of the USSR, this state was divided in half into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Now the Americans are already engaged in them, the management is similar to the management of the reservations in which the indigenous people of the North American continent live today. Now the Czechs have been allowed to be independent in matters of ideology and propaganda, read: to respond to past "grievances". So they returned to their usual state, they hope that the old days will return, and they will be needed again. It is a pity for them - these small peoples of Europe, who have not understood anything, have not learned anything. And, most likely, they will never understand.
    Note: The media say that instead of a monument to the victorious Marshal Konev, these Czechs want to erect a "monument" to the traitor Vlasov, who distinguished himself in the Czech Republic during the times of fascism. I wonder what position this Vlasov will be in on the future monument? ..
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 3 2020 16: 43 New
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      Quote: 1536
      The Red Army in 1945 was ahead of the Anglo-American forces, and occupied the lands of Czechoslovakia after the brilliantly conducted operation of the Prague operation on May 5-11, 1945, which was commanded by Marshal of the USSR I.S. Konev.
      By that time, the Americans had stopped at Pilsen, 70 kilometers from the Czech capital and were not going to move on, because there was an agreement that Soviet troops should occupy the city. Those were located from the place of events in 140-200 kilometers, which still had to be overcome, overcoming the resistance of the Germans.
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 April 3 2020 18: 43 New
      -1
      I wonder what position this Vlasov will be in ... there is a monument in Prague. rather, a sculpture in bronze. which depicts a thinker and a certain young lady on her knees with her face between the legs of the thinker baring her crotch. ... probably it will be so. but here is the interesting thing. ... they say that if the sculptor of the thinker and woman rub the open crotch. then it will be happiness, judging by the photo, the bronze is rubbed to a shine ... unfortunately I can’t post this sculpture on this resource, nevertheless, everyone can admire it on the Internet ..... another interesting thing. Will Vlasov’s crotch shine so much ???
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard April 3 2020 16: 16 New
    +3
    Here I am wondering, will they also send help to this?
  • Campanella
    Campanella April 3 2020 16: 16 New
    +4
    There is nothing to buy Skoda and the products of other bastards. They only understand through the loot. We must do our own thing, but with such handicrafts it is unlikely that anything will change. One Manturov rules the industry is laughter. Starting from the fact that he doesn’t make noise, ending with the fact that the government structure created by President Putin is not capable of creative work.
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV April 3 2020 16: 16 New
    +3
    Honestly, if it weren’t for my warnings, I would have given these words the behavior of these cockroaches in human form
    1. Campanella
      Campanella April 3 2020 19: 19 New
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      And how much do you have. I have 4 trying to stay, although joking in an intellectual style is difficult. It takes a lot of energy, but it boils as usual at the moment. And then hot must be served cold.))
  • avia12005
    avia12005 April 3 2020 16: 17 New
    +8
    Recall the Russian Ambassador and reduce his representation in the Czech Republic to the level of Chargé d'Affaires. Deny entry into the Russian Federation, all involved in the demolition of the monument. Arrest their assets in the Russian Federation, if any. Open a criminal case against this headman. A lot of measures, there would be a desire. But he is not in the Kremlin.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 3 2020 16: 17 New
    +1
    Religious wars traveled hard around the Czech Republic ... From the warriors there were only eternal servants of empires: German culture, intelligentsia cosmopolitan and dull beer humor.
    The Marshall Monument has always reminded the Czechs of their present place in history. That was demolished with frustration.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 3 2020 16: 40 New
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      Quote: samarin1969
      Religious wars traveled hard around the Czech Republic ... From the warriors there were only eternal servants of empires: German culture, intelligentsia cosmopolitan and dull beer humor.

      As they were Austro-Hungarians, or rather Germans, they remained such. Again, a hundred and first time I write, there was no need to release them. Prague had to be taken by storm, as was Berlin.
  • prior
    prior April 3 2020 16: 21 New
    +1
    Such a "good deed" should not go unpunished.
    Chekhov from Moscow on foot to Prague on the restoration of the memorial, step march ...
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 April 3 2020 16: 22 New
    +2
    Who demolished the Zhukov monument in Moscow?
  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. April 3 2020 16: 24 New
    +2
    Let Heydrich be erected a monument to the innocent slain.
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  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 3 2020 16: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Wend
    And we continue to help Europe free of charge. Maybe enough already?

    And to whom, apart from pasta and Serbs, are we helping? laughing
  • Overlock
    Overlock April 3 2020 16: 27 New
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    ... a monument to General Vlasov may appear in its place.

    those. Does he want to say that this was not?

    the world is going crazy
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 3 2020 16: 28 New
    +5
    Can't Skoda wrap the fins on sales in Russia? In my opinion, it would be nice to help refresh the memory.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 3 2020 16: 29 New
    -1
    Worldview warfare part 99th harnessing. laughing
  • apro
    apro April 3 2020 16: 30 New
    +2
    And what’s wrong? The USSR has long been gone. Russia is a different type of country. It has nothing to do with ideology and state building. The USSR’s international politics. Czechia is in the zone of influence of other forces. You didn’t sit in Czechoslovakia, you get such a reality. The Kremlin will influence this situation Nothing. But by and large it’s not counted. Vlasov and at the top we consider a fighter against communism. Did they screw the Manerheim board? Have they put a monument to Krasnov?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 3 2020 16: 31 New
    -1
    Yes, all of them, (cut out by censorship from ......) by next summer will be paired with Poles and Bulgarians to compete with Ukrainians. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 3 2020 16: 35 New
    -1
    Yes, everything seems to be right, as I understand it, sitting in the center of Siberia. It is treated only with money (do not give) and lyuli (give, and more!) laughing
  • anjey
    anjey April 3 2020 16: 36 New
    +1
    A good "gift" from Chekhons for the 75th anniversary of the Victory, it is a pity that there are more bastards in the West than normal people, if not for Konev, the Germans would have drenched Prague with blood ...
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine April 3 2020 16: 37 New
    +3
    The war ended, but the Germans continued to resist in the Czech capital and its surroundings for several more days. The losses of the Soviet troops in the Prague operation amounted to more than 50 thousands of soldiers and officers killed and wounded and several hundred units of military equipment; Vlasovites lost less than a thousand people, one tank and two guns.

    Germans let Vlasovites go to the Americans, Vlasovites nevertheless achieved their goal - they got to the Americans' positions. But they were not enthusiastic about meeting with "fighters for the freedom of Russia from Bolshevism." The conversation was short: “Who are you? Russians? Let the Russians understand you. ”
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild April 3 2020 18: 27 New
      +1
      Recently I read on the site how they captured Vlasov. Someone from Vlasov suggested where he could be
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 3 2020 19: 58 New
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        Quote: Astra wild
        Recently I read on the site how they captured Vlasov. Someone from Vlasov suggested where he could be

        There was a book for a long time, one spy, he was introduced to the "Vlasovites", and they helped him to catch Vlasov, already in front of the American positions. I don't remember the exactness.
  • gridasov
    gridasov April 3 2020 16: 38 New
    +1
    This is not a tragedy! This is an indicator that how this people can respond to information manipulation.
  • shoroh
    shoroh April 3 2020 16: 38 New
    +2
    By the level of Russophobia, the Czech Republic is far ahead of the planet. Our media are silent about this because their president (by the way a purely nominal figure who does not solve anything) treats Putin and Russia well, only by virtue of his advanced age. And so in fact - every Czech media considers it obligatory if you write or shoot about Russia, then only in a terrible and frightening light. The Czechs, for the most part Russophobia and haters of everything Soviet. From childhood, they are driven in tales about the defeat of democracy by the evil Soviet soldiers in the year 68, and in each of their actions they take revenge on us and Russia in general for this. So, I look at my acquaintances sweetly sighing about romantic Prague and Charles Bridge, but I also remember that the main command intelligence center and NATO propaganda is located in this Czech Republic.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild April 3 2020 18: 24 New
      0
      A shoroh colleague, it turns out like a layered pie: the Czechs and Slovaks are Slavs, but the Germans had a strong influence on the culture of the Czechs. Slovaks are related to the Czechs, but did not perceive German culture.
      In WWII, the Czechs conscientiously worked for the glory of Hitler, and Slovakia was formally Hitler's ally, but in reality they were enemies. As a child, I watched the film: "The Insurrectionary Story" about how the Slovaks really treated the fascists.
      Someone said that the Slovaks in 1942 killed the traitors in Ponezhukai (.?) They were racking their brains: how were the Reds behind the German rear?
      1. shoroh
        shoroh April 3 2020 21: 29 New
        +1
        Slovaks are really much less Russophobic. And the Czechs at all levels emanate anger over everything Russian. Starting from sports and ending with the highest political level. Yes, how it comes to business, they try to remain silent, but their propaganda works day and night telling all sorts of horrors about Russia, where an accident happens every day, a week or a time after dispersal of rallies, and that Putin doesn’t plant anyone for a month and attacks on someone. Chekhov in this case, even the Poles have not yet surpassed. Although our media are not shy about talking about Poles, the Czech Russophobic issue is never covered. In fact, in the Czech Republic there is not only a lot of German influence, but also Western Ukrainians, of whom there are a huge number since the 90s and especially now. This marginal layer has its support precisely Russophobic sentiment in the Czech authorities. Our authorities maintain a respectful attitude towards the Czechs, not focusing on the funeral, and meanwhile, monuments are demolished for the money of Russian tourists, NATO facilities are being built and the humiliation of the USSR and its role in the Second World War and Russia as the heir to the USSR are strongly promoted.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 3 2020 16: 38 New
    -4
    Russia even without marches is pulling out at least something from the territory from which it surrenders to me-soon and take something, as they say, there will be nothing other than analyzes. And blocking the gas pipeline (for example) would bring such losses that this whole chantrap is not even close. In Soviet times, in a similar situation, yes, they probably would have blocked it (well, if it had been a hypothetical possibility of developing the situation in a similar vein). Well? Would this help the Soviet Union a lot? However, let’s remember, on May 10, 1923, V. Vorovsky-Soviet diplomatic representative was killed in Lausanne. So what? Well-severed relationship for a while. Only. In 1927 in Warsaw at the Wojkow station. AND?
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    1. Kronos
      Kronos April 3 2020 19: 38 New
      0
      Tell tales, but you don’t know how they killed Soviet citizens and why they brought in troops
  • nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 April 3 2020 16: 54 New
    +1
    God sees everything ... The training manual is outdated, but it will not work to return back. They will have to eat this substance themselves.
  • u4iy
    u4iy April 3 2020 16: 55 New
    -2
    I think that they correctly demolished the monument to Konev and put up a monument to Vlasov! The people of the traitor deserve a monument to the traitor!
  • Old partisan
    Old partisan April 3 2020 16: 56 New
    +1
    More such friends and enemies are not necessary.
  • Shadow041
    Shadow041 April 3 2020 16: 56 New
    +2
    The conclusion is obvious - You don’t need to save someone else’s culture and alien peoples by sacrificing the lives of Russian soldiers !!!
  • Million
    Million April 3 2020 16: 57 New
    -1
    Clicking on the nose of Lavrov’s department.
  • 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey April 3 2020 17: 02 New
    0
    Or maybe we should go through their graves? Https: //topwar.ru/142304-zachem-chehoslovackim-ubiycam-i-maroderam-stavyat-pamyatniki-v-rossii.html
    Russia is big, but we don’t have land for scum!
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 3 2020 17: 14 New
    0
    In response, it would have been possible to clear the memorials to the "good Czech legionaries". Which we stumbled across the Trans-Siberian laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 3 2020 17: 16 New
    -2
    Pepiki are a nation of traitors and conformists, and they themselves did not hide it. A Czech friend of mine in his student years told a Czech joke "- What happens if you cross a bee with a pig? - You get a small, hardworking Czech, but at the same time a big pig."
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 3 2020 17: 19 New
    -1
    The earth is round. Everything will fall into place. The main thing is that we ourselves do not forget about it.
  • Coconut
    Coconut April 3 2020 17: 22 New
    0
    we will still pay for the monuments and your policy ......
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild April 3 2020 17: 26 New
    +1
    "will contribute to objective perception", or rather subjective perception.
    It is interesting, but if I.S. Konev died in 1968 and how could he not be tied to the events of 1968, then Kolarge would have lied