The economic end of the United States: and forecasts are still not justified ...


In connection with the powerful crisis that has now hit the United States economy, forecasts again begin to sound about the collapse of the American financial system, the “sunset of the dollar era”, etc. It is difficult to say how many times we have heard such “prophecies”: in 2008, the time of the mortgage crisis that struck the United States, before. Nevertheless, the "magic" Fed press continues to work just as well, over and over again, not only fulfilling its mission to save the American economy, but also continuing to maintain world dollar hegemony. Why is this happening?


First of all, it must be recognized that the pawn first in Bretton Woods in 1944, and then in Jamaica in 1976, the global system of financial relations created such a tricky comprehensive basis for the global dominance of the American currency, which replaced the noble gold as the universal standard of world money, that the destruction it is not beneficial to anyone. Even the most violent haters of the United States and their many opponents of the trade wars do not seem enough, tomorrow will turn dollars into a pile of worthless green pieces of paper.

Moreover, all the negativity regarding dollars that wanders from one article to another (regarding their revaluation as the main global reserve currency, their complete lack of security both in the US gold reserve, in the volume of goods and services produced in the country, and so on) is completely fair. Moreover, the allegations that the gigantic national debt of the United States, which has crossed the mark of 23 trillion dollars, are a thing completely abnormal from an economic point of view, and in no way testifies to the financial "health" of the country.

The whole thing is that the American dollar has long been something more than even a global reserve currency and a monetary unit in which more than 50% of transactions are made on the entire planet. In fact, it is a kind of pivot on which the entire system of not only commodity-money and financial relations is “strung”, but also the political and social structure of the whole society in which we live. That is why the United States can afford to accumulate any debts and at the same time feel great.

Standing not just outside, but over the American state, the Federal Reserve does not cost anything to issue the national currency in any amount, covering all possible deficits, interest and other US needs. Any other state that has thrown money of a similar volume into its own economy would simply have choked in it, drowned in imminent hyperinflation and died. But not the United States - after all, the green papers they print instantly disperse around the world, they turned into the main article of national export a long time ago.

Yes, a number of states (the same China or Japan) today have in their hands US debt in such volumes that, if they demand repayment of not all loans overnight, but just a significant share of them, the American state will inevitably turn into bankrupt. But they won’t do it! At least in the current coordinate system ...

Who will buy Japanese cars, Chinese smartphones and many thousands of other items of goods produced exclusively for external consumption, if the dollar does not become, and the United States, the largest world market with almost bottomless consumption, goes bankrupt? And how to continue to conduct business between states without a monetary unit acceptable for settlements everywhere and by all? Naturally, over time, any vacuum will be filled - with another currency or the same gold as the old, but it's hard to imagine what kind of economic desert our world will turn into during this time.

The Fed’s “game” with the printing press can be stopped only by setting the goal of not only depriving the dollar of world currency status, but also firmly intending to “move” the United States themselves from all-planet hegemons. Enough courage, and, most importantly, forces like that, can be for a group of states that have both significant economic potential and military power so impressive that none of the American leaders have a glimpse of using the "last argument of the kings." China, India, Russia ... And who else? A lot depends on how the European Union, Japan and South Korea, which are so far faithful US allies, will behave. And will the countries that have decided to “overthrow” the dollar be able to maintain unity in the face of imminent trials?

All these questions seem to be rhetorical. Nevertheless, the current difficult economic situation, and even in combination with the global pandemic, is able to give rise to completely extraordinary scenarios. The "anti-dollar revolution" may well become one of them. But this is just another forecast of dozens of these over the past decade. But they didn’t come true ...
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  1. Uncle lee April 3 2020 08: 46 New
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    it is a certain core on which the whole system is "strung"
    Eureka invented to replace the buck, but so far to no avail ....
    1. Rather, for alternatives and duplication "in case of what."
      1. Uncle lee April 3 2020 08: 52 New
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        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        for alternative

        At least in Europe ....
    2. Basil50 April 3 2020 08: 57 New
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      Everything is more complicated there
      In reality, the United States today belongs to PRIVATE people who really govern the country. The obstinate presidents and others who dare to doubt the right of these private traders to control are simply shot by bandits, police, and the army. This is despite the fact that all the PR work is for real US owners.
      By the way, in the United States itself, all information about the Fed is classified, up to the concealment of names and surnames.
      The euro was introduced in the hope of making * printing money * for Europe a private affair of the very elect.
      1. Malyuta April 3 2020 09: 53 New
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        Quote: Vasily50
        am getting harder
        In reality, the United States today belongs to PRIVATE people who really govern the country. The obstinate presidents and others who dare to doubt the right of these private traders to control are simply shot by bandits, police, and the army.

        A strange picture of deja vu, a steady feeling that I have already seen somewhere.
        1. Snail N9 April 3 2020 10: 32 New
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          It is strange that they did not mention how the KhPP for “killing” the shale oil industry, now it will 100% kill the United States. wink well, with the “crown” it’s understandable, the USA is already at death, they are still fluttering in “agony”, but this will not last long lol So, kirdyk USA, whatever one may say. yes And yes, if that, there is also Yellowstone .... wink
      2. Harry.km April 3 2020 14: 04 New
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        Quote: Vasily50
        By the way, in the United States itself, all information about the Fed is classified, up to the concealment of names and surnames.


        Today's Fed was conceived by seven people who possessed in 1910 about 25 percent of the world's wealth. The seven secretly met on Jekyll Island, owned by JPMorgan. The conspirators included Nelson Aldrich, Senator of Rhode Island, the future chairman of the National Currency Commission. He organized this meeting, which was later called "duck hunting." He was a co-owner of JPMorgan and was also the father-in-law of John D. Rockefeller Jr. - one of the richest men of the time on the planet. Aldrich actively worked in the Senate to increase his capital and intervened in all the financial aspects discussed in the US Congress.

        Other participants in the meeting also had big names: Frank Fanderlip, President of National City Bank of New York; Henry Davison, another co-owner of JPMorgan; Charles Norton, President of the First National Bank of New York; Benjamin Strong of the JPMorgan Bankers Trust, as well as Warburg, Kuhn's partner, Loeb and a representative of the Rothschild family. (with)

        Historical fact.
      3. for
        for April 3 2020 19: 13 New
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        Quote: Vasily50
        In reality, the USA today belongs to PRIVATE persons

        That we have Private person and his entourage.
      4. antivirus April 3 2020 22: 17 New
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        and the article itself about analytics ............................................ .
      5. zenion April 4 2020 16: 23 New
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        Fall apart! The voice of the people is the voice of God! Soon the United States will be the USA. The divided states of America.
    3. tihonmarine April 3 2020 10: 58 New
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      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Eureka invented to replace the buck, but so far to no avail.
      One of the main reasons for introducing the euro was the consolidation of the entire European region.
      But nothing good came of it, and now it has begun to come out.
  2. The leader of the Redskins April 3 2020 08: 48 New
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    My favorite virtual "funeral")))
    Whom we just didn’t "bury" in recent years ... the European Union, Ukraine, the United States ... Separate branches of different countries ... Just a "trip to the cemetery."
    But, it is worth noting that we were "buried" more than once. Probably a long time ...
    1. neri73-r April 3 2020 10: 25 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      My favorite virtual "funeral")))
      Whom we just didn’t "bury" in recent years ... the European Union, Ukraine, the United States ... Separate branches of different countries ... Just a "trip to the cemetery."
      But, it is worth noting that we were "buried" more than once. Probably a long time ...

      There are exceptions to the British pound, as the world currency was still buried, replaced by the dollar! Yes, he holds on, but this is a completely different pound sterling.
    2. BARKHAN April 3 2020 15: 19 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      My favorite virtual "funeral")))
      Whom we just didn’t "bury" in recent years ... the European Union, Ukraine, the United States ... Separate branches of different countries ... Just a "trip to the cemetery."
      But, it is worth noting that we were "buried" more than once. Probably a long time ...

      Like when empires died ... Russian, Mongol-Tatar, Byzantine, Ottoman, Roman ... not to mention the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians of different ... the USA will die, And Russia, the planet, the galaxy, and the universe will collapse. ..only I don’t remember a single true prophecy on the timing ...
  3. YOUR April 3 2020 08: 48 New
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    They bury something, bury the United States, the dollar, and they creep out the bastards. Looks like they’re not digging deeply.
    1. Svarog April 3 2020 09: 25 New
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      Quote: YOUR
      They bury something, bury the United States, the dollar, and they creep out the bastards. Looks like they’re not digging deeply.

      While the fat dries up ... it’s dead ... It’s about the funeral of the USA .. Only the USSR could collapse the USA as the second world economy .. and then, provided that it would be very focused .. but as dear analysts wrote, before the collapse of the USA they themselves were on the verge of a tremendous crisis, and the collapse helped them a lot .. now the United States does not have a serious geopolitical rival .. mostly some vassals, including Russia .. this can be seen on the call of Putin, who asked Trump to help with oil prices. .
      1. Alexander S. April 4 2020 17: 15 New
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        Putin himself told you about this?
    2. Malyuta April 3 2020 09: 56 New
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      Quote: YOUR
      They bury something, bury the United States, the dollar, and they creep out the bastards. Looks like they’re not digging deeply.

      They imitate for our domestic consumption, while a plebs in a TV set has been celebrating all the reptiles for 20 years, the rulers are taking out resources there and buying up real estate. In general, more ADA !!!
    3. tihonmarine April 3 2020 11: 04 New
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      Quote: YOUR
      They bury something, bury the United States, the dollar, and they creep out the bastards.

      You can't bury a dollar. Remember, Bretton Woods. July 1944 The age-old dream of a separate group of people came true in July 1944, the dream of creating a perpetual motion machine. The energy generated by him should move its creators to world domination. The eternal money engine. He is eternal because he creates money himself. When money is made from nothing. And this is the engine to break must not.
      1. Harry.km April 3 2020 14: 09 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        The eternal money engine. He is eternal because he creates money himself. When money is made from nothing. And this engine cannot be broken.


        And fuel for him is a loan interest. Take away the loan interest and you will get a completely different financial system ... But before, hands were chopped off in Europe for a loan interest, sometimes around the neck. And then we realized that money from the air is very, very ...))
      2. aybolyt678 April 3 2020 14: 33 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        And this engine cannot be broken

        This is a controversial statement. What to call an engine, what is fuel and what is a car smile And where is he going. smile If you remember the 90s, remember how crises happened? when the dollar soared over half a year 10 times (1993-94) 4 times (1998) 1,5-2 times (2014) and now, despite all the efforts - coronavirus, oil collapse, it lost only about 20% of the ruble, i.e. e. 20% of all our well-being they migrated ....
        if you combine everything together, then green paper has become more expensive, oil cheaper - this is a contradiction!, hence the conclusion: that there is psychological sabotage, information war. The more the world fakir will be able to keep the attention of the audience on the coronavirus, the more it will have an airbag, it may survive this crisis, but I doubt the next one.
        Now is the time to offer the world a new standard - Energy Ruble, a ruble that corresponds to kilowatt / hour of electricity. Transmitted by wire. Despite any crises and currency fluctuations, it should correspond to a kilowatt. This would give weight to our "currency" and really bring down the dollar forever
        1. tihonmarine April 3 2020 14: 40 New
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          Quote: aybolyt678
          What to call an engine, what is fuel and what is a car And where does it go. If you remember the 90s, remember how crises happened? when the dollar soared over half a year 10 times (1993-94) 4 times (1998) 1,5-2 times (2014) and now, despite all the efforts - coronavirus, oil collapse, it lost only about 20% of the ruble, i.e. e. 20% of our well-being has migrated to them ...
          Remember the terrible financial famine since the Gaidar reforms? It was caused by the fact that the country could not print its currency, because it did not have foreign currency. And it wasn’t because the gold reserves of the USSR disappeared somewhere else under Gorbachev, and under Yeltsin the “young reformers” quickly privatized the oil and other extractive industries. Forgetting to ensure a normal tax system and turning a blind eye to the withdrawal of money through offshore companies.
          And all the talk about the fact that you can’t print rubles to pay pensions to your old people, all these horror stories about inflation are just a smokescreen to cover up the system that sucks juices from Russia (and the whole world).
          1. aybolyt678 April 3 2020 14: 52 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            And it wasn’t because the gold reserves of the USSR disappeared in the middle of nowhere under Gorbachev

            the gold reserve has nothing to do with it Money can be secured by material production. smile
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Remember the terrible financial famine since the Gaidar reforms?

            yes because production has depreciated. and Khodors have not yet shared with the state
            Quote: tihonmarine
            it's just a smoke screen

            + very accurate!
  4. Grandfather Crimea April 3 2020 08: 52 New
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    It will be justified, one can believe it or not, but it will be so that ordinary paper will cost more than an American banknote and this will be in our lifetime and those over 60 will also see it.
  5. Ross xnumx April 3 2020 08: 53 New
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    The economic end of the United States: and forecasts are still not justified ...

    To paraphrase a "famous saying":
    HOW MANY RUSSIA DO NOT FEED FORECASTS, BUT THE ECONOMIC END OF THE USA IS THICKER ...
    wassat
    1. aybolyt678 April 3 2020 14: 37 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      HOW MANY RUSSIA DO NOT FEED FORECASTS, BUT THE ECONOMIC END OF THE USA IS THICKER ...

      nothing more than a phrase based on the betrayal of national interests by the Elite
  6. AAK
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    The overthrow of the United States from the position of hegemon and the exclusion of the dollar as a world currency is possible only if China, the European Union and Russia agree on this issue at the same time, which will begin coordinated actions, but have not yet “fused” and economic issues are not conducive to unification ... China will want the US to enter hegemony, but it is not very profitable for Europe and Russia ...
    1. tihonmarine April 3 2020 14: 51 New
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      If the United States leaves for hegemony, China will want it, but it is not very profitable for Europe and Russia.

      And it will begin utterly .... as in an institution for women with low social responsibility. For everything is connected.
  7. DMB 75 April 3 2020 09: 04 New
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    But this is just another forecast of dozens of such over the past decade. But they didn’t come true ...

    Yes, I don’t remember how many such predictions I had in my life .. I remembered that the demobilization is inevitable, like the collapse of capitalism .. The West is decaying .. How many years have we been waiting for Kirdyk America, but only while the fat one dries up, the dead one dies. decays, but something does not decay ... America is decaying, decaying, and it is not decaying either ... We are all rising from our knees, we are rising - but we are not getting up .. So we have a crisis, then gasoline is getting more expensive, then the dollar collapsed, then self-isolation, something will happen ... But in general, to this America from the bell tower, I like life in my country more important and interesting, but not "what’s there with the hahlov" and "how everything is bad abroad."
    1. Malyuta April 3 2020 10: 06 New
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      The West is rotting .. How many years have we been waiting for kirdyk to America, but only until the thick one dries up, the thin one dies. It rots, I look, it rots, but it does not rot in any way ... America rots and rots, but it also does not rot ... We all rise from our knees, rise - but we won’t get up .. So we have a crisis, then gasoline is getting more expensive, then the dollar has collapsed, then self-isolation, something will happen.

      One hope is that Yellowstone jerked and the Gulf Stream turned back, then the Putriots will heal. Forward detachments!
  8. knn54 April 3 2020 09: 06 New
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    The only country that can make the US-Russia challenge. For the welfare of the United States in the first place is based on military power.
    The dollar is secondary. Therefore, endless sanctions, the desire to prevent the union of the Russian Federation and the PRC ..
    The dominance of the dollar is based on two points:
    - armed conflicts around the world, Export of democracy with bombing (again democratic) dissenting and stubborn.
    "bending" of competitors and, above all, the EU.
    At the same time, the USA itself remains an island of calm.
    The resources of the whole world for the "picture".
    Now about the debt of the United States. A country that is not going to give it back does not care about the size of the debt. And who will "force".
    All economies are put on a dollar "needle". But "addiction" is being treated!
    1. Malyuta April 3 2020 10: 11 New
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      Quote: knn54
      The only country that can make a call to the US-Russia.

      Correctly!!!!
    2. Tavrik April 3 2020 10: 37 New
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      1. Military power is always based on economic power.
      2. Why should Russia challenge the United States? Who will bull against his own nest egg? What purpose? Replace the dollar with the ruble? Enough to fantasize, it would be better to take care of your country. Everything will be brought together in one place from the world mega-projects ...
      3. The dollar needle did not prevent China from becoming the second economy in the world. Looks, it's not about the dollar ...
      1. knn54 April 3 2020 11: 42 New
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        The point is the Fed. Today is the dollar, tomorrow is different. For them, the main thing is that the golden equivalent does not return.
        As for the PRC. After a quarrel with Khrushchev, China was a beggar. Until the Yankees, in the peak of the USSR, they did not invest in the world factory facilities and technologies.
        Next, the arrival of the Yankees. But here friendship with the Russian Federation is energy carriers. Raw materials, military technologies.
        Historically, China alone has ALWAYS been a "tertiary" country. Now it is VERY LITTLE accumulated bucks and disposes.
        When the USSR was, we did not know what a crisis was, Communalka, in my memory, remained the same for twenty years.
        Vodka, furs, automobiles and jewelry rose in price.
        As for the dollar. If it weren’t for “Birch” and other stores with UNLIMITED currency (comparing prices for similar goods in Germany), the value of the currency would not be so popular.
        Even in Yugoslavia for our "quarter". Yes and dozens, for example. In hotels. gave at least 1: 1.
      2. "The dollar needle did not stop China from becoming the second economy in the world."
        The Chinese economy became the number 1 economy in the world back in 2014, in December. The trend continues and the Chinese is becoming more and more. Could the yuan soon replace the dollar? England once had the strongest economy in the world - and the pound dominated the world. In 1872, if I’m not mistaken, the American economy caught up and began to overtake the English one. Soon, the dollar began to dominate the world. So, yes, after some time, the yuan will begin to dominate, 100%. Moreover, the real production is behind the yuan, and the "value" of the stock exchange is behind the dollar. The transition will not go smoothly, as the dollar will resist violently. Little will not seem to anyone. In the current situation, when we are witnessing the beginning of the most ambitious economic chudger and the restructuring of literally all relations in the world, the collapse of the dollar can begin literally today.
    3. ccsr April 3 2020 11: 02 New
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      Quote: knn54
      The only country that can make a call to the US-Russia.

      Militarily - yes, economically - no. And since the West will not allow a global war with the destruction of America itself, all its efforts will be aimed at destroying the US economic adversary - China. In this situation, we seem to be like a passing pawn, capable of becoming a queen during a military conflict, but not playing any economic role in peacetime. That is why they reckon with us all over the world, but nobody is going to take into account our interests, and this was proved by the prolongation of sanctions by European countries.
      Quote: knn54
      At the same time, the USA itself remains an island of calm.

      This is not at all the case, especially against the background of racial clashes and illegal migrants, and the current situation with the Cornavirus has shown that the United States is not so omnipotent as it was in the 50-70s and that period of their history was much more stable.
      Quote: knn54
      All economies are put on a dollar “needle”.

      The Chinese yuan will help many countries get off it - now China’s GDP is more than American, and Chinese society is more manageable and stable, and this is the key to future investments. By the way, the new giant India will help the Chinese economy fight America in the global share of manufactured products, the percentage of which the United States has been decreasing for several years after the collapse of the USSR.
      1. georgiigennadievitch April 7 2020 18: 30 New
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        The confrontation between the United States and China is only just beginning to unfold in a serious way. As they say, the farther into the forest, the more firewood. As long as the states are in the lead due to the money machine, science and technology. But China has a pronounced development trend and gradually presses the states in these areas. as this trend continues, relations between them will escalate. And so it will be for several more decades. God grant that this confrontation does not turn into a military conflict. But we need to take care of our sheep. Russia is stubbornly stalling in place. The current system of division of labor, when Russia is a raw materials appendage of the so-called developed economies, where we export raw materials and goods of first redistribution, and import technologies, equipment and goods with high added value, is economically unprofitable and dead-end for our country. the fact is that our "offshore aristocracy" is satisfied with this situation. And it lives on the principle that after us at least a flood. Despite all the talk about import substitution and the development of our own innovative projects duction, by and large, things are tam.Esli Russia will not change the current economic model, we will be on the sidelines of the changes occurring in the world and will increasingly lag behind the global development of locomotives.
        1. ccsr April 7 2020 19: 24 New
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          . But we need to take care "of their sheep." Russia is stubbornly "stalling" in place.

          You all correctly assess the future confrontation between the USA and China, and here my point of view coincides with yours. As for Russia, I can say that we are losing to these countries in human resources, which is why in the foreseeable future we will not be able to catch up with them economically. But at the same time, we will constantly feel the threat of loss of our territories, which is why we will have to spend more and more money on developing weapons, and this in itself puts us at a disadvantage, i.e. we will conditionally "slip" in other sectors. We must either recognize the priority of independence, or reconcile ourselves to the fact that we will be torn apart. I think that independence is dearer to us, which is why we will have to sacrifice our well-being.
    4. aybolyt678 April 3 2020 14: 47 New
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      Quote: knn54
      The only country that can make the US-Russia challenge. For the welfare of the United States in the first place is based on military power.

      controversial statement. US well-being is based on the principle of the pivot. In the governments of any countries, they have their own people, lured, dependent. They are also in the immediate circle of the rulers ... In difficult times, conflicts erupt, key figures die, betrayals are committed and the world illusionist brings down the currency of a country by pulling a blanket of prosperity .... For the rest, I agree +++
  9. rocket757 April 3 2020 09: 09 New
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    Again and again.
    The USA is a powerful, rich power.
    They ruined the world for themselves, their interests, for many, many years !!! It just doesn’t collapse.
    But everything happens in due time. Empires self-destructed earlier and will be destroyed later. The run of history cannot be stopped.
  10. Sergey Averchenkov April 3 2020 09: 09 New
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    "but what kind of economic desert during this time our world will turn into"
    I'm for the desert. Better once is a desert than a constantly rotting ulcer. How much can you endure these parasites stuck to the world?
  11. Vitaly Tsymbal April 3 2020 09: 12 New
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    Why the article? Nothing new - so "chatter" on the topic of political science: "The end of decaying imperialism and the victory of the ideas of socialism in the world" .... But, the "end" does not decay, and imperialism has entered the phase of imperial globalism ... but this is from the point of Marxism- Leninism))) The lower classes do not want to change consumer appetites, and the tops miss (already miss) the next World War and a series of revolutions !!!! But there is no "Lenin - Trotsky - Chegevar" yet, and there will not be until all of them are sitting on a "social life mortgage" debts for which are inherited ....
  12. fa2998 April 3 2020 09: 14 New
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    As soon as our native ruble is going to "dive" deep, "terrible forecasts" about the dollar begin. Calm down, everything will end that the dollar will be for one hundred rubles. Bet! belay hi
    1. ccsr April 3 2020 11: 04 New
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      Quote: fa2998
      Calm down, it will all end that the dollar will be for one hundred rubles. Bet!

      Chickens in the fall consider it, so by the end of the year we'll see if you win the argument, or your forecast will be junk.
  13. 1536 April 3 2020 09: 14 New
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    I quote one great woman: "After the rain, a rainbow always comes, after tears - happiness." (Mother Teresa)
    It seems that some time will pass, and today's map of the distribution of the coronovirus, the one that is now available on the Internet with red circles for the spread of the disease, will be a map of the economic, social and political development of the world. It is the zones of greatest damage that will become the locomotives of this development. No matter how anyone says the opposite, but in a few months the world will become even more global, even more united.
  14. Romario_R April 3 2020 09: 22 New
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    Good article! I agree with the author.
  15. thinker April 3 2020 09: 42 New
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    A completely extraordinary scenario lol
    US President Donald Trump signed the “Government Debt Act”, which completely writes off all debts of the American state to creditors... According to Trump, a massive public debt creates pressure on the American economy and does not allow it to develop properly. Zeroing it will not only help economic growth, but also confuse the cards of Russian and Chinese propaganda, which claim that the American state is heading for collapse because of debts. The decision was enthusiastically greeted on Wall Street, where solemn spontaneous demonstrations in support of Trump's decision took place.
  16. Grading April 3 2020 09: 53 New
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    Russian GDP for 2019 at the old dollar exchange rate of 1 trillion. 610,381 billion dollars
    AAPL market capitalization of 1 trillion 071.686.316.400 billion dollars
  17. Santa Fe April 3 2020 09: 58 New
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    China, India, Russia ... And who else?

    No one

    Anglo-Saxon civilization created this world as we know it. Hundreds of years will pass until a worthy rival is able to offer something new.

    For reference, a reason to think:
    Oxford University Founded -1096

    The first university in Russia was created in 1755

    We are dealing with the oldest of the European, well-organized societies, which developed hundreds of years earlier than anyone and taking advantage of this, crushed the whole world under themselves.
    1. Tavrik April 3 2020 10: 40 New
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      I agree. Gumilyov with his theory of ethnogenesis was right. Different superethnoses that appeared at different times. He is several hundred years older.
    2. 16329 April 3 2020 12: 51 New
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      That is, William the conqueror (1066 conquest of England, the beginning) bequeathed to his son (William ||) to found the University of Oxford?
      By the way, Oxford was founded in the middle of the 13th century.
      No need to write about the creation of the world by the Anglo-Saxons, until the XNUMXth century in England in decent society they spoke only French and the book Death of Arthur (the legend of King Arthur) was written in French
      So it would be more correct to write about the French immigrants from Scandinavia, as the founders of civilization according to your theory
    3. However, dear April 5 2020 00: 32 New
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      We are dealing with the oldest of the European, well-organized societies, which developed hundreds of years earlier than anyone and taking advantage of this, crushed the whole world under themselves.


      The problem is deeper than just "they are ancient, and therefore they crushed everything for themselves." If you look at fluctuations in the world currencies of all developed countries (including young ones) versus the US dollar over the past 30 years, you can see that they (fluctuations) are not significant, and the Russian ruble dives down all the time. But a country with Russian resources could live no worse than Norway.
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        Igor, have you ever heard of the “raw curse”

        Possession of natural wealth does not help to become a strong and developed country with a high standard of living. Rather, it only harms the development of the country. Venezuela. Philippines. Botswana and its diamonds. Congo is the main supplier of coltan ore in the world market, without which microcircuits are impossible. Everyone slipped into utter squalor, and the reason is clear as day. For the extraction of raw materials, the country does not need to take care of its population, it does not need either education, development, or the associated ambitions and incomes. Ten families will assign everything to the country - the rest will be at the level of slaves; they will mine diamonds and coltan for them with pickaxes. And the poorer and more disenfranchised the better

        Norway and the Emirates are rare exceptions, partly due to their microscopic size, belonging to a Western European society with its high organization (Norway), and suddenly dwindling insights on the UAE leadership, who realized that the financial center and attracting investments instead of oil production will allow them to become even more cool and respected people, including and in the west.

        Significantly larger 30 millionth Saud. Arabia despite the money continues to degrade in the Middle Ages. does nothing and does not create. degenerates

        Therefore, all the talk about the relationship of natural wealth with the standard of living in the country is not worth a penny
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          about the "raw curse"


          Of course, Oleg, I heard about a wonderful invention of Russian propagandists: the “raw curse”, as an explanation of the eternal “catch up and drive west.” In the original, it is from the English paradox of plenty - a paradox of abundance. But it’s absurd to say that we (the people) are poor, because the country is rich. That is, it can be argued, but this is not the cause of poverty. And the reason for poverty is because of theft and corruption. Because industry and science are not developing. The United States at one time was a raw materials appendage of Britain. They were forbidden to develop industry. But the Americans realized that the development of a country without its industry is impossible. They fought with Britain for this and became an economic giant with a very wealthy population. There are many other countries, except Norway and the United Arab Republic, which use the natural resources of their countries for the benefit of the entire population, and not a handful of rulers at the top of the pyramid. To say that we are such because of the abundance of raw materials is the same as signing "we are stupid and we can’t do anything else", or "we are thieves, we so want, we are so full and bold, and we don’t care about the people .. pile up. " Both that and another are bad, and certainly not rich mineral resources are to blame for this.
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    1. Doccor18 April 3 2020 10: 03 New
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      And why international trade will collapse. Capitalism is a division of labor. Nothing will crash. Yes, some players will leave, but all will remain with their own. And the US dollar is still int. payment instrument, then there is no other.
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    I had never believed in the collapse of the dollar before. In 2008, he laughed at those who prophesied his collapse. In the States, the most cunning and dodgy bankers and they can figure out how to get out and shift the severity of the crisis to others. And so it happened.
    But now it’s a completely different matter. Now no one knows what to do. The solution is simply absent and the situation is stalemate.
    The essence of the dollar system is as simple as a steamed turnip.
    The dollar serves as a means of calculation in international trade. Everything else - funds, zvr, various financial operations and speculations, these are derivative things and are based on the foundation of trade.
    Trade will collapse, as a result of quarantine; inevitably, the dollar will collapse. Who needs a piece of paper for which you can buy a lot of things that are completely unnecessary in our situation, but do not buy what is needed? Why stash this paper? What speculations can be made with her? Everything loses its meaning.
    If the situation continues for a long enough time, we can actually see a collapsed dollar.



  20. Beringovsky April 3 2020 10: 06 New
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    The dollar is the main means of international trade. This is the essence of the dollar. Everything else is derivative.
    If trade collapses, the dollar will inevitably collapse.
  21. AU Ivanov. April 3 2020 10: 24 New
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    There is one way out - a supranational world currency. Tied to either gold or kilowatts.
    1. Pessimist22 April 3 2020 10: 38 New
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      Who needs this solution if there is a dollar? Putin’s Russian servants like Leontief or Iran or whom?
  22. Alexander Sosnitsky April 3 2020 10: 26 New
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    The dignity of the United States and its dollar should be attributed to the fact that they did not drink their achievements as in the so-called Russian world, but multiplied them and bought everything and everything. Each action is strictly professionally analyzed and performed exactly for their benefit. They have no drunken Yeltsin dancing in the political arena, crazy Khrushchev, bloodthirsty Trotsky, close wild vassals, etc. Man and the microbe cannot equal themselves; they don’t see the second at all. Each European country has decisive achievements in this civilization and the Slavic world must have them, if it can. So far it's gypsies. The Germans have stealing gypsies in honor of 5-6 places in society after the Germans. And the Russians are behind them, all Soviet there are Russians. Despite the fact that the Germans have 5 categories of Germans, starting from the West, and they strictly honor this, their civilization rests on it. Russian Germans are in Siberia, where there is 200 km to the nearest village and there was no one, except Germans, also Russians who are poisoned in Germany, for example, in Swabia. Children in schools are being persecuted, the Russians themselves are building Russian houses there, where they can spend time. And they cry specifically to me. Children prepared flash "Boomer", miss their homeland. Russia learned to be poor, did not learn to be RICH, although it is richer than all. There is no science in Russia, just as it is not in the former republics. Everywhere blat, "their", kums, courtiers, scammers, "I will hide my hut" and so on. Everything is stupidly copied everywhere and everything without its own name and pride. To be proud and inherited, one must become ORIGINALS and not COPIES.
    1. 16329 April 3 2020 12: 35 New
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      Russian civilization has enough of its achievements. The Germans respect these achievements.
      Germans distinguish "Russian Germans" from real Russians.
      There is a certain share of attitude towards the “Russian Germans” as towards traitors, moreover, from both sides, but in the conditions of modern expansion from the east this will soon pass.
      Children of Russian Germans (and there are large families) have already integrated into the structure of German society
      Informal ties and hidden mechanisms of interaction in Germany are also very strong, family and clan ties and conflicts also play a huge role, as elsewhere.
      1. Alexander Sosnitsky April 3 2020 13: 53 New
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        The Germans are our brothers both in blood and in spirit. If we connected, it would be super power. This is what they are afraid of, starting with the protocols of the Zionite sages. Everything is described there. By the way, these sages are also from ours, but they forgot. Scythian, and along the way also Egyptian priests, the origin of the Meso (between) Potamian (streams). Then Eurasia was in glaciers and Hyperboreans lived in the south of Ukraine and lower around the Black Sea and even lower beyond the mountains of Iraq-Iranian places. Ours is all that.
        1. 16329 April 3 2020 14: 20 New
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          No, these are not Anglo-Saxon brothers to us; they are the same Germans, for a German it’s normal to worship the Englishman and obey him, and the German dynasty sits in England
          The Germans can be used and cooperated with them, but it’s not worth too close, and there is negative experience
          1. Alexander Sosnitsky April 3 2020 14: 58 New
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            Not so simple. The so-called Kievan Rus lasted 70 years in total as a way from the Varangians to the Greeks. "We came to own you," this is a typical Norman enterprise, nothing personal. At the same time, the rural brethren was driven / driven free of charge by the sword to Kafu (Feodosia, quarantine (as he later became known as) as goods there and back for their goods. Then they found a shorter and safer way along the Rhine. Nobody knows the real story. And if you read European chronicles from their genealogy sites (there are a lot of them and they are also very paid), then you can find out everything. what ours do not know. In particular, the Scandinavians came from Syrian territories (an analogue of Rome, but stronger) and their names easily passed from Arabic to Scandinavian names. In particular, Zaki moved to the Saxons, the Angels to the Angles, etc. Moreover, they carried culture and the northern lands it was like a link and hid there from destruction. + non-freezing sea and fish. There appeared royal houses from civilian aliens. The Mongols did not go there because they already did not like much at the level of the middle band and were limited to a label. Then the colonization went to the further islands. Zaki took shaving, cattle, irov, etc. By the way, all the Slavs. The Irish were considered for nothing else in the USA. East Germany is purely Slavs, the coast, the whole of Europe was almost Slavic. The homeland of the Slavs between the three famous seas. Genealogy is clear. They always ate their own kind when we had multi-storey cities along all the great rivers from the Danube to the Yenisei and the Lena and there were crafts and goods. So they remained predators so far. Because real survival was unrealistic. 5300 years ago they wanted to eat the Tyrolean fossil Etzi, but he fled to the mountains, but died. And then, about 500 years ago, everything shot at them after many millennia of continuous wars. China is also rich because they haven’t eaten for many thousands of years and now everyone is taking up everything to survive.
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          A couple of hundred years ago, the opus “The Last Day of England” was created, where the author urges NOT to ALLOW the union of the three powers: Russia, Germany and Japan.
          That is (purely hypothetically) the USSR + "Anti-Comintern Pact" could put an end to the hegemony of the Anglo-Saxons.
          But, as Comrade Enver Hoxha told Comrade Mao, one should not call Satan into allies in the fight against the devil.
  23. Grading April 3 2020 10: 30 New
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    The dignity of the United States and its dollar should be attributed to the fact that they did not drink their achievements as in the so-called Russian world, but multiplied them and bought everything and everything. Each action is strictly professionally analyzed and performed exactly for their benefit. They have no drunken Yeltsin dancing in the political arena, crazy Khrushchev, bloodthirsty Trotsky, close wild vassals, etc. Man and the microbe cannot equal themselves; they don’t see the second at all. Each European country has decisive achievements in this civilization and the Slavic world must have them, if it can. So far it's gypsies. The Germans have stealing gypsies in honor of 5-6 places in society after the Germans. And the Russians are behind them, all Soviet there are Russians. Despite the fact that the Germans have 5 categories of Germans, starting from the West, and they strictly honor this, their civilization rests on it. Russian Germans are in Siberia, where there is 200 km to the nearest village and there was no one, except Germans, also Russians who are poisoned in Germany, for example, in Swabia. Children in schools are being persecuted, the Russians themselves are building Russian houses there, where they can spend time. And they cry specifically to me. Children prepared flash "Boomer", miss their homeland. Russia learned to be poor, did not learn to be RICH, although it is richer than all. There is no science in Russia, just as it is not in the former republics. Everywhere blat, "their", kums, courtiers, scammers, "I will hide my hut" and so on. Everything is stupidly copied everywhere and everything without its own name and pride. To be proud and inherited, one must become ORIGINALS and not COPIES.

    Our goal alone is self-destructing and we are getting closer to it!
    1. Alexander Sosnitsky April 3 2020 13: 47 New
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      I do not believe, no matter how our people are called, they are the strongest in all aspects. Such a need just didn’t come to him. Ours have taken the richest lands and carry the richest values. The time will come they will take their toll. But through natural selection. This is difficult, but the descendants at the edges will do it. But you can and by mind. But here it is not enough. therefore, we pay for study with blood
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    forecasts start to sound about the collapse of the American financial system, "the decline of the dollar era"

    so we have a whole galaxy of professional undertakers of the USA- Kiselev, Solovyov, etc. How will they live?
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    Whatever the ruble has been doing over the past 30 years, something does not stand behind it ... But they promised ... smile
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      Quote: parusnik
      Whatever the ruble has been doing over the past 30 years, something does not stand behind it ... But they promised ... smile
      And let's remember, Alexei, what did they do to him? In my preschool, there were no dollars.
      Then they appeared. Then the ruble was reduced by one and a half times, then by 2, then by 98m ---- like 6. times. At 14m --- still at 2, now again. That's what they did to the ruble. But that's not all. Before that, there were reforms, including Pavlovskaya, but I don’t know their meaning. You can try to take a sheet of paper, do such manipulations with it. What will we see?
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  27. Maks1995 April 3 2020 11: 20 New
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    In fact, the "dollar is about to fall" noodles on their ears has been hanging for 30 years. Every 2 weeks. Sometimes even courtiers with iksperdy.

    Nobody bears any responsibility for this untruth, as well as for the rest, since "the boy said, the boy did" does not apply to frayers (people).

    Real publications, such as Komersant, do not give any such forecasts. They have a different audience.

    USD 77,25 0,00, - And once it was 60, 30, 15, ..
    "The economic end of the USA," write again certain media?
    And they will write, write, write ...
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    It is difficult to imagine anything absurd in this discussion. It is striking that some in Russia are concerned about the fate of the dollar, shale oil, etc. Especially now. Look at the ruble exchange rate, the stagnation of the economy in recent years and other problems. In this situation, the real influence of the country on the world community will only decrease.
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    To talk about any currency, you need to know the participation of this currency in the global economy.
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  31. fa2998 April 3 2020 12: 35 New
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    Calm down, it will all end that the dollar will be for one hundred rubles. Bet!

    Chickens in the fall consider it, so by the end of the year we'll see if you win the argument, or your forecast will be junk.

    Of course, it is possible to carry out a monetary reform before the fall and make the course $ -65 kopecks, but I will say more precisely, by June it will be around 100 rubles. hi
  32. flicker April 3 2020 12: 53 New
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    But this is just another forecast of dozens of such over the past decade. But they didn’t come true ...

    Interestingly, but the strike of “Sarmat” will meet expectations? bully
    Everything is so fragile bully
  33. BastaKarapuzik And April 3 2020 12: 54 New
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    Why does the article say that the forecasts did not materialize? The United States still exists, and the dollar seems to be in place, but the current crisis in the economy by 90% is a crisis of just the same dollar and America. That is, forecasts for 90% are already justified. You can’t live on drawn pieces of paper endlessly.
    1. Kronos April 3 2020 14: 42 New
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      The crisis in all countries that were hit by the virus and there is far from everywhere the dollar
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        A crisis would have been without a virus, and the virus drives it altogether to the collapse of the entire system. I don’t see much point in dividing all this into a dollar or a euro. Everything about the dollar and the euro. This is a crisis of the system in which it is customary to make money from the air, for decades pumping resources from all over the globe. A system in which they trade and speculate in shares of an enterprise that exists only in the form of a foundation pit, in which even work is not conducted, cannot resist.
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          So this is the crisis of capitalism as a whole and not the collapse of the United States
  34. Grading April 3 2020 13: 32 New
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    The only country that can make a call to the US-Russia.

    Militarily - yes, economically - no. And since the West will not allow a global war with the destruction of America itself, all its efforts will be aimed at destroying the US economic adversary - China. In this situation, we seem to be like a passing pawn, capable of becoming a queen during a military conflict, but not playing any economic role in peacetime. That is why they reckon with us all over the world, but nobody is going to take into account our interests, and this was proved by the prolongation of sanctions by European countries.
    Quote: knn54
    At the same time, the USA itself remains an island of calm.

    This is not at all the case, especially against the background of racial clashes and illegal migrants, and the current situation with the Cornavirus has shown that the United States is not so omnipotent as it was in the 50-70s and that period of their history was much more stable.
    Quote: knn54
    All economies are put on a dollar “needle”.

    The Chinese yuan will help many countries get off it - now China’s GDP is more than American, and Chinese society is more manageable and stable, and this is the key to future investments. By the way, the new giant India will help the Chinese economy fight America in the global share of manufactured products, the percentage of which the United States has been decreasing for several years after the collapse of the USSR.

    You would at least sometimes read and think before writing would be much better. good The goal of China and the United States to gain control over each other but not destroy destroy!
  35. A. Privalov April 3 2020 16: 41 New
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    I was here at VO, once, I read the article "Media: Medvedev the other day will approve a plan to de-dollarize the Russian economy." Did not work out...

    In fact, "getting rid" of the dollar is very simple.
    1. Return the butterfly. That was the name of article 88 of the 1960 Criminal Code of the RSFSR “Violation of the rules on foreign exchange transactions” in the slang of foreign exchange operators.
    The article provided criminal penalties for operations with foreign currency and currency values. Condemnation of art. According to 88, depending on the nature of the crime, imprisonment for a term from 3 to 15 years, confiscation of property, a reference to up to 5 years and the death penalty.

    2. Give citizens a week for an official exchange of greenbacks for rubles (of course, at the lousiest rate, not 79 rubles for 1 green, as today, but 20, or even 10, you don’t think they will give it back?

    3. Leave the greens only for interstate settlements, as was the case with the USSR. For enterprises that have to buy raw materials or components for dollars, to make non-cash sale of green also at a predatory rate - there will be an incentive to switch to everything domestic ...

    As you know, this is all a joke. In fact, the Russians are holding at least 45 billion green under their pillows, which is 3,6 trillion rubles. (At the same time, I'm not talking about the oligarchs and other cellists hiding their greens in foreign banks and offshore.)
    Do not forget about the more than 100 billion greenbacks for which the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (read, your own native government) permanently buys and sells government securities that you hate so much.
    And rightly, by the way, they do. Why? Your grandmothers will be more whole. They will be preserved in the best possible way, and even they will give a steady profit. Their securities quite liquid. Rest assured. It will not be so easy to pull them away. Just what happens with the wooden one will be what a piece of bread (and even with butter) to buy.

    One of the indicators of a strong economy is a stable and expensive currency, for which there is a demand not only within the country, but also from other states buying it. The US dollar is not the best thing in the world, but the most popular currency in the world. The economy of the issuing country of this currency is diversified and quite stable (it can withstand even financial crises) and therefore, it is the dollar that is the world's reserve currency.
    The collapse of this currency will lead to innumerable troubles in the global economy, to the immediate collapse of the governments of dozens of countries, to the most bloody civil wars on all continents, including ... (but don’t bring Gd!). We wish the American dollar good health and many years of a quiet life for the joy of all who hold it. hi
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      This is exactly what the Revolution and the fall of the bourgeoisie in Russia need.
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    The author and many others completely do not understand the essence of the changes. The fact is that money, even in the USA, is given at interest, and these percentages must be constantly paid. And these percentages are already so high that it is impossible to repay the debt. Therefore, the amount of interest will constantly increase. But from printing an additional amount of dollars from them - inflation will gradually accelerate in the Western world. And confidence in the dollar will decrease more and more, which will accelerate inflation even more. And after some time a default will occur, and with it the US economic collapse. Of course, Americans will not die from this (although many will shoot themselves), but America will become a beggar - like Argentina.
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      It is strange that everyone prints and inflation is not in the dollar but in currencies like the ruble
  37. NF68 April 3 2020 18: 42 New
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    None of those who are friends with their own heads is not interested in quickly dropping the United States because it is as large as the United States, the “closet” will crush its legs while falling. Therefore, the United States will try to slowly push it out of the feeder.
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    BRICS could move the dollar, but it seems to have fallen apart.
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    The United States may have buried it would have helped the Second World War. And not only get out, but also become one economy and make the dollar a world currency.
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    this can be seen on the call of Putin, who asked Trump to help with oil prices ..

    I never would have thought that you were initiated into conversations of such a level! My respect!
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    All who predicted the death of the United States have long been crap who the next ....
  42. iouris April 5 2020 14: 19 New
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    Given the disposition, we can conclude: the United States will be the last. The US national debt will lay a heavy burden on the population of the rest of the world.
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      I don’t want it myself!
  43. Artunis April 6 2020 15: 11 New
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    There will be no kirdyk to the dollar, and the US will not go anywhere. Kirdyk insists the world financial elite and its superprofits, that's all. Manufacturers of real (material) products, rather than air, will come to the fore - 50% of the profit from any product now belongs to financiers, and before 1944 it was only 5%. Everything will return to common sense and nothing more. In the real sector of world production, the United States now occupies less than 20%, and in 1944 it was 52-54%. Not on Senka hat already. Therefore, there will be a redistribution of zones of influence - China, India, the United States and possibly Russia (if you manage to rebuild the economy). This is just an objective picture of the world today. And the author of the article is engaged in self-hypnosis, no longer ride. But in one thing he is right - it will be shitty to all simple people in the whole world. Although for those who have nothing and have nothing to lose, it’s straightforward from the classics of Marxism!