The construction of a new base for the repair of submarines is planned in Dickson

In the northernmost settlement of Russia - the village of Dikson - it is planned to create a repair base for submarines. This was reported by the press service of the administration of the Taimyr region.

The press service explained that land has already been allocated for the construction of the new base, the bottom has been inspected in the area, but the timing of the start of construction has not been specified.

The plans are to create a base for the repair of submarines in Dikson. Land has been allotted for these purposes, the bottom has been verified

- stated in the administration.

In addition, the press service noted that a new border outpost and a camp for military personnel are under construction in the village, which will include a hostel for the military, an administrative building, garages, a helipad and a gas station.

Commander of the North declared plans for the reconstruction of the port of Dixon in early December last year fleet Vice Admiral Alexander Moiseev. According to him, the reconstruction in Dixon should be completed by 2025. It is possible that the creation of a base for the repair of submarines will take place as part of the planned work.

The village of Dikson is located on the Kara Sea coast at the entrance to the Yenisei Gulf and on the island of the same name. The population of the village is about 600 people. The port is used to ensure the life of the village, military facilities, Arctic expeditions and polar stations, as well as for hydrometeorological and hydrographic services of the Northern Sea Route.

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[Mytholog]

600 people are the total population and are going to build a repair base.
It seems that Dixon will grow at least three times in the near future (taking into account families).

[75 Sergey]

I was on Yamal, sadly, only a shift.

[askort154]

75 Sergey ....I was sadly only a shift on the Yamal Peninsula.

Where exactly ? Yamal is a peninsula, not a settlement.

[orionvitt]

Quote: 75Sergey

I was on Yamal, sadly, only a shift.

And what is sad then? For example, I can’t imagine how you can live your whole life in the far north. Of course there are people who love the north with strange selfless love, but there are probably very few of them. Well, the extreme north has not been created for people.

[Piramidon]

Quote: orionvitt

Well, the extreme north has not been created for people.

Chukchi, Evenki and other northern peoples have lived there for thousands of years.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Piramidon

Chukchi, Evenki and other northern peoples have lived there for thousands of years.

Everyone knows this, so the irony is inappropriate. I'm talking about those who mastered the north and built cities there.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: orionvitt

Well, the extreme north has not been created for people.

Chukchi, Evenki and other northern peoples have lived there for thousands of years.

So what?
Are you Chukchi, Evenk, Mansi, Hunt?

I spend a lot of time in Zapolyarka. but living in Dikson permanently - only Dagestanis will ...
And they, sorry, but there are no specialists in the submarines and will never be ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: SovAr238A

Are you Chukchi, Evenk, Mansi, Hunt?

You can poke your wife, if any. I have been given the answer to the claim that the North is not made for people. In your opinion, it turns out that the Chukchi, Evenki ... not people?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: SovAr238A

Are you Chukchi, Evenk, Mansi, Hunt?

You can poke your wife, if any. I have been given the answer to the claim that the North is not made for people. In your opinion, it turns out that the Chukchi, Evenki ... not people?

Listen carefully.
Since the advent of the Internet - an appeal to YOU ​​- has been a fact of insult.
Since the Internet is an equal structure - the appeal to YOU ​​- is accepted as normal.

Listen on.
The Chukchi and Evenki, as well as the Khanty and Mansi, with whom I meet every three to four months alive and communicate live, and among whom I have really good friends - they are different.
Just different.

Do you understand this?

They do not work like that. as is customary with us.
They live as is not customary with us.

They are different.

And since you raised the topic "all people are equal" - I clearly understand that you are a populist of liberal ideas, you do not understand nifiga in people and their features.
You were hardly there and saw them, and you were unlikely to communicate with them.

[Piramidon]

Do not throw labels, an expert on humanity. During my life I met, talked, served, worked with people of almost all nationalities of the USSR. From the northern nationalities with Yakuts and Lapps (Sami). You wrote that the North is not for people, so I answered you that the Chukchi are people

[Dikson]

Well, I lived there .. long enough .. and in the service including .. Normal, human life, and people are better than on the Great Earth - in the Arctic, as a rule, shit immediately freezes ...

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Dikson

Well, I lived there .. long enough .. and in the service including .. Normal, human life, and people are better than on the Great Earth - in the Arctic, as a rule, shit immediately freezes ...

Come on.
Normal human?

Storyteller...

There are still no gas stations in Dixon.
The nearest gas station is about 500 km away, but there are no roads there in principle: no winter roads, no summers, or logging tracks. Gas must be ordered in time for navigation, and then it will be delivered by ship. Next time it can be done only in a year.

Prices in 2014 and 2020, we have almost 2 times the difference.
Notice that.
Here are the 2014 prices at Dixon ...

Now milk subsidized 120-150 per liter ...

Read the real stuff. and not the lies you write with nickname Dixon ...
https://www.sibreal.org/a/29668913.html

[Dikson]

238 .. Be careful .. you better not give a damn in the mirror .. If you wish, write in a personal letter, we’ll talk there .. about prices and nicknames ... And about the cost of a kilogram of black caviar and half a liter of alcohol .. About the flight height of the ice scout we can talk .. about the detection range of the RS-135 .. and about what touch the wool of a polar bear .. I have the honor!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: orionvitt

Well, the extreme north has not been created for people.

Rather, not all people are created for the Far North.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Mytholog

600 people are the total population and are going to build a repair base.

And it was:

The morse woman sings behind the wall with a cheerful treble,
Around the snow, at least hundreds of miles away.
The fourth day of the blizzard sways over Dixon,
But only you better ask a song about it.

Apparently, the authorities know where budget money couldn’t be slammed from ... Whatever the decision, a technical thought verified by personal experience. I’m just wondering if any of these civilians were in those latitudes or just sitting and poking at random?

[antivirus]

This will definitely attract Western partners to the SMP-climb Dixon peep.
horse ride to load east of the NSR

[Amateur]

And where will they take qualified workers with specific professions and tolerances? From the broken-down Nizhny Novgorod plants will they be on duty or will they create a cloning center? + 6-8 months frozen sea.

[75 Sergey]

Chukchi hired ....

[Amateur]

Chukchi hired ....

Such? Which "Waiting for the Dawn in the Plague"
And you can train polar bears.

[Ponchik78]

He is a Nanaian, not a Chukchi.

[Amateur]

He is a Nanaian, not a Chukchi

But the song is about the Chukchi. True, here Kola-beldy is already old. And when there was a young song went "with a bang"

[Ponchik78]

Generally, a well-deserved uncle!

[75 Sergey]

Chukchi, a figurative expression uniting many similar nationalities ....
By the way, then .... Nanai .... Russian!

[Ponchik78]

Why all of a sudden?

[seti]

Quote: 75Sergey

Chukchi hired ....

Do you have something against the Chukchi? Incidentally, this is one of the most significant peoples of the North of the Far East. And if that they are also citizens of the Russian Federation.

[75 Sergey]

Never mind! No need to look for dirt where it is not!
In general, all the peoples who live in Russia ... Russian!

[Sergey Averchenkov]

There are no Chukchi, there are Yakuts and Evenks.

[askort154]

Sergey Averchenkov ....No there are Chukchi, there are Yakuts and Evenks.

Well, guys, you blinded here by the knowledge of the geography of your homeland.
Father Dixon (with the village) is located at the mouth of the Yenisei. This is the Krasnoyarsk Territory.
And the Chukchi and Yakuts live far east.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I live in the Krasnoyarsk Territory and have been to Dixon. Brains do not compost me.

[Dikson]

You are mistaken .. Specifically, there were NEVER representatives of small peoples in the north on Dickson .. The exception was literally two people .. One of them was named after the street in the mainland village ..- Tayana street ..

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I tell you about the entire Taimyr Peninsula. By the way, in the village, as I recall, there are generally 2 streets. But were the Dolgans there? Do you know who this is? A cross between a bulldog and a rhinoceros - Russians, Evenks, Yakuts (everything mixed up in the Oblonsky’s house) ... how could mixed marriages appear if they lived in different places?

[Dikson]

There are far from two streets ..)) Well, at least five ..)) not counting the streets on the island ..)) Dolgans, Nenets, Nganasans and others - this is for you in Dudinka .. There’s an edge to their edges ..- there you can graze deer .. but on Dixon, except for lichen on stones and flowers of the polar poppy, not a damn thing grows .. -nothing deer eat. Therefore, reindeer herders very rarely went out to this coast - only in very warm years .. And Uncle Tayan was just a guide on expeditions .. By the way, I talked with his granddaughter .. - She lived on Dixon .. though she wasn’t on the street named after her grandfather ..))

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Sorry if I offended at the expense of the streets. :) I was there in about 79th - 80th - the delivery of some kind of cargo ... I don’t remember much ... yes, plus a thorough booze. :) But I definitely saw you deer. I even saw it in sight. :)

[Dikson]

In sight, yes ..)) But as an industrial reindeer herding - there is definitely no such thing .. wild deer, polar wolves, bears on the streets and other animals are easy ..)) When I was there there was a significant case when IL-14 from Krasnoyarsk, a bear came to the parking lot .. and sat down by the gangway ..)) It was difficult to live there .. but interesting. And the supplies did not come from Krasnoyarsk, which was hungry, but through the Torgmortrans office .. - that is, what was in Moscow, in "Birch" for currency, in Dixon's department store, proto lay on the shelves, including French fur coats and other rubbish .. Once, a tourist voyage from Krasnoyarsk ended deplorably for tourists - the trough was not allowed to the wall, the tourists were taken to the shore on boats .. - they were so loaded in stores that when the boat moved away from the pier, it simply went smoothly under the water due to overload. It is characteristic that when citizens were pulled out of the water, they did not let go of their trunks .. Such was the Far North ...))

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I believe. I don’t understand a damn thing about industrial reindeer husbandry. And we (Thea, the North Yenisei region) from Krasnoyarsk had supplies - once a year (in the spring) on ​​large water with barges to Bryanka. The situation is also interesting ... at first they drank all the vodka, then wine, then alcohol, it even came to inexpensive cognacs ... and at the end (already before the next delivery) on the shelves proudly, alone stood some sort of expensive cognac. :) And we also had bears (even more than necessary), and wolves, once wild deer ran into the village. On a neighboring woodpile, his brother shot a lynx. But we have taiga, and you have baldness. :) Just like you flew IL-14, even the An-2 sometimes. So you're right - life was harsh, but interesting. What is it ... earlier and women were younger ... :)

[Piramidon]

Quote: Amateur

And where will they take qualified workers with specific professions and tolerances?

It depends on how much they pay, what benefits they will receive. I remember that it was our turn to whom to go to serve in the Arctic.

[Well done]

It's good. The main thing is that Kovid19 does not introduce its own corrections.

[75 Sergey]

I wonder who will work and live there? The conditions are harsh, the delivery of goods and materials and food is expensive, the construction is prohibitive, what is the purpose - to ruin the country?
To build a base for duty - perhaps a plant - insanely expensive construction and subsequent operation ...
But for cutting a bobla - that’s it.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Who can tell me why this is done ??? We have Severomorsk, there is an Asterisk. There is no money for ship repair and re-equipment of the repair base, in bedlam production, and here a new rembase in ... Far shorter. And drive ships to Dikson from the Murmansk region ... In my opinion, the project is like the Vostochny spaceport.

[Mytholog]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

Who can tell me why this is done ??? We have Severomorsk, there is an Asterisk.

In Severomorsk, not so long ago, three Yankees were caught at the entrance. Judging by the impudence and the confidence with which they rod there, the agents there for a long time to etch ...
Most likely, Dixon will only be for special tasks. When risks need to be minimized.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Mytholog

Dixon will only be for special tasks. When risks need to be minimized.

You're right. Great is Russia, and there is no place to conduct tests. All bullshit dirtied. And now, when the borders are closed, it's time for such projects. I think many experts and retired military engineers, instead of a zomboyaschik and 4 quarantine walls from the metropolis, will agree to go to a safe and environmentally friendly Dixon. It will be interesting to follow the vacancies.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Vita VKO

I think many experts and retired military engineers, instead of a zomboyaschik and 4 quarantine walls from the metropolis, will agree to go to a safe and environmentally friendly Dixon. It will be interesting to follow the vacancies.

Have you been there for at least a month? Two months of Yamburg were enough for me to understand. what is the North ...
Safe and environmentally friendly, yeah ...
There are no less infections than in the middle lane, for guests who bring muck are always in abundance.
And people there get sick harder and harder, and the mortality from pneumonia is almost many times more, because one FAP is ...
But not a regional hospital ...

[knn54]

At the same time, AO DVZ Zvezda switched to a reduced operating mode due to the absence of MO orders.
Two or three nuclear submarines are mothballed because there is nowhere to repair.
Something strange is happening.

[maksbazhin]

Half of the comments were minus. For what?

[Uncle lee]

Quote: maksbazhin

rained

Fifth column!

[Kot_Kuzya]

Nonsense. Clean drank dough. There, the sea stands frozen for 10 months in a year, a polar night, an oak tree all year round.

[Rzzz]

Most likely for some secret affairs they want to build a base, under the guise of repair. Although in those conditions it is almost impossible to repair. And it’s somehow unrealistic to build a full-fledged plant there.

[U-58]

Of course, there are questions: what kind of repair, which boats ...
It may be this, there will be a Poseidon recharge base.
Or replacing reactors ...
In addition, it can be a backup base, the most remote from the theater.

[Dikson]

Replacement, excuse me, what ???? This is a very complicated operation .. No factory or workshop built on level ground will simply not pull it .. and they will not trust him with such work! We can’t talk about rebooting the fuel .. - it’s unrealistic just ...

[U-58]

Well then, one can conceive on this subject a hundred conspiracy theories.
Up to disguising the production of diving flying discs from New Swabia, the recipe for the manufacture of which our polar explorers still managed to get)))))
As for the complexity of technological operations, there is also nothing impossible.
For example, at Cosmonur Bikodrom, assembly-disassembly of launch vehicles completely repeats all the procedures of the manufacturer, be it Progress or the Khrunichev Center or Yuzhmash

[askort154]

The construction of a new base for the repair of submarines is planned in Dickson.

Many have christened everything, this decision. And if you delve deeper. Dikson is located at the mouth of the Yenisei, on which all the industrial cities of the Krasnoyarsk Territory are located, including his. This is a region with powerful defense industry enterprises, including rocket science. It has its own fuel, its own metal and a powerful technological base.
Therefore, everything you need to repair a nuclear submarine, as they say, is at hand. Delivery is not far, and most importantly - cheap water transport, able to transport bulky goods. And still not unimportant, in the depths of its territory.
They will pay accordingly, improve them, and the labor force will appear. Creating a modern town for 2-3 thousand people is not a problem now. Look at what military bases have been built along the entire coast of the Northern Sea Route. He, by the way, passes next to Dixon.

[CommanderDIVA]

Most likely this is the case, there is no other need for the construction of this facility, apparently the Ministry of Defense also takes into account the melting of ice in the northern latitudes, the possible opening of new sea lanes

[SovAr238A]

Quote: askort154

The construction of a new base for the repair of submarines is planned in Dickson.

Many have christened everything, this decision. And if you delve deeper. Dikson is located at the mouth of the Yenisei, on which all the industrial cities of the Krasnoyarsk Territory are located, including his. This is a region with powerful defense industry enterprises, including rocket science. It has its own fuel, its own metal and a powerful technological base.
Therefore, everything you need to repair a nuclear submarine, as they say, is at hand. Delivery is not far, and most importantly - cheap water transport, able to transport bulky goods. And still not unimportant, in the depths of its territory.

At hand? Delivery not far?
Did you look at the distance from Krasnoyarsk to Dikson? Well, on the Yenisei?
it is 2700 km.


At hand?
Have you seen any roads in this region towards Dixon? Except Yenisei?
They are not.


At hand?
Did you look at the Yenisei navigation term map?
This is the end of July-August, half of September.
2 months in total.


What a populist you are ..
Completely uneducated.
Write things torn off from realities.
From your words it abounds with the manuals of the Politburo of the late 70s ...

[Dikson]

You know .. the lack of navigation on the Yenisei absolutely does not prevent Norilsk Nickel (which, incidentally, has its own ice class fleet) from transporting Platinum, Nickel and a bunch of other expensive resources from Dudinka .. Up to using atomic icebreakers (it's certainly tin, to drive an atomic ship into a river .) .. Dixon is located a little to the north .. and not in the river .. although you are right -10 months there is ice. and in fact, even in summer, if you don’t gouge it with icebreakers, it will stand .. I remember very well how on June 25 we rode quietly on a tracked all-terrain vehicle (GAZ-71) across the entire bay, 5 km, from the mainland to the island on ice ...

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Dikson

You know .. the lack of navigation on the Yenisei absolutely does not prevent Norilsk Nickel (which, incidentally, has its own ice class fleet) from exporting Platinum, Nickel and a bunch of other expensive resources from Dudinka ..

You do not confuse Dudinka, which works through the NSR, and is equipped with icebreakers and ice tankers, with delivery across the Yenisei, where 2700 km of 2-meter ice. and on the Yenisei there are neither atomic icebreakers, nor ice-class tankers.
Where sea draft of 9-10 meters is unacceptable in principle.

Delivery to Dudinka from Murmansk.
и
Delivery to Dudinsk / Dikson from Krasnoyarsk

two huge differences that just do not stand nearby.

in any way.
From the word "Generally".

[Dikson]

You may not have understood me quite correctly, or I did not quite understand my thought .. Of course, there can be no nuclear-powered ships on the Yenisei directly .. They did not go and do not go anywhere south of the Dudinsky port .. - the depths there are not the same .. But .. Suppose we took these and solved the controversial issue of logistics .. -why carry "Sineva" to Severomorsk, when you can load it on Dikson? I am exaggerating this of course .. But, for example .. - to replenish food or water supplies, or to change part of the crew, the boat does not have to glow and wipe through the cordons of "partners" grazing our cruisers around Murmansk and Arkhangelsk .. Don't you think so? It can be banal to say that the existing bases are so targeted and unsafe in the event of any mess that it is simply stupid to keep strategic forces there .. And here are the convenience ???

[U-58]

Yes, everything is not so hopeless.
A group of ten heavy ekranoplanes can deliver more than the necessary number of cargoes and rotations along the Yenisei

[Dikson]

By the way ... Yo-mine .. STATI, for local connoisseurs - at Dixon, the headquarters of the Marine Operations of the Western sector of the Arctic was all the way to Yeltsin’s time .. Not in Murmansk, and not in Moscow .. but in a small village .. (in better times -5 thousand inhabitants) .. With the GDP of the Dikson airport, the sides flying along the Big Circle, through ALL military bases and the Arctic points of our air defense ..

[SovAr238A]

Arctic Sector Marine Operations Headquarters

Sounds loud, but shallow in fact.

Name things completely.
The Headquarters of Maritime Operations for the Western Sector of the Arctic is the headquarters for marine ice operations. Civil service. There, up to 15 people were with radio operators.

[Dikson]

No matter how it may sound, thanks to these people the NSR worked for many years .. And about the "civilians" in the Arctic .. well, well ... You also remind me of the keepers of Arctic lighthouses .. who also shone with naval epaulettes only on major holidays. .))

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

To be honest, it sounds like bullshit. Why is there a rembaza on Dikson? The conditions are really, if not the worst, then some of the worst in Russia. There is no need for the word "in general" - for the same money, you can attach another half to Zvezdochka and train the staff. And there is no reason to repair submarines in Dikson and not elsewhere.
Very similar to the banal cut under the fanfare of developing the NSR.
Z.Y. It is strange that Rogozin did not think of building a nuclear submarine rembase on the moon. That's where the real creativity and cash flows are!

[Dikson]

Distances .. you take into account the distances .. If (God forbid) the boat needs repairs, - to cut it and to cut it to Zvezdochka .. And to Severomorsk too ..

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Distances from ?? What to do submariners on the NSR? And yes, if suddenly something happens there with the boat, it will be much easier to drag her on a special ship to the same asterisk

[Dikson]

A special "vessel" was sold a long time ago .. there was such a ship .. two boats could carry ...

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Dikson

The special "vessel" was sold long ago.

Like this? Back in 2017, the trans-shelf transported submarine blocks

[Ryaruav]

two questions where will specialists be taken and who will go there if there are not enough people in the Komsomolsk on Amur then Dixon?

[SovAr238A]

What will they do there?
What will the docks be built there?
The closed hulls of the shipyard will deliver?
To heat with what?
In Dixon?
Where is clean water 3 months a year?

Where to find specialists if they are not enough at existing shipyards and shipyard?
Pay how much? 600 thousand a month with food?
And who will bring food to the Dixon?


For such news that such generals and admirals bring us - we need to tear off epaulettes ... and expel them from service ...

[Dikson]

It doesn’t have to be a repair. This could be a parking lot for loading the BC, carrying out routine maintenance, replacing the crew ... but you never know .. Exactly in the middle of our Arctic territory .. The depths there .. are certainly not enough for the submarines .. that's for sure .. at least in the bay .. (it is very convenient in terms of protection from storms - there the island, like a horseshoe, covers the bay ..) in my memory, the boats went many times .. naturally they didn’t moor to the piers, but they definitely stood on the inner roads .. Somehow a long time ago, in the early 70s, someone thought of excursions .. really .. until one aunt with a wide stern tightly got stuck in the upper hatchway ...) Finely there .. for the nuclear submarines it was finely .. Nuclear-powered boats, however, without problems come in and pass through both straits, but at the outer wall of the existing pier (and he is 80 years old .. and he is wooden ..) - 15 meters depth ..

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Dikson

It doesn’t have to be a repair. This could be a parking lot for loading the BC, carrying out routine maintenance, replacing the crew ... but you never know .. Exactly in the middle of our Arctic territory .. The depths there .. are certainly not enough for the submarines .. that's for sure .. at least in the bay .. (it is very convenient in terms of protection from storms - there the island, like a horseshoe, covers the bay ..) in my memory, the boats went many times .. naturally they didn’t moor to the piers, but they definitely stood on the inner roads .. Somehow a long time ago, in the early 70s, someone thought of excursions .. really .. until one aunt with a wide stern tightly got stuck in the upper hatchway ...) Finely there .. for the nuclear submarines it was finely .. Nuclear-powered boats, however, without problems come in and pass through both straits, but at the outer wall of the existing pier (and he is 80 years old .. and he is wooden ..) - 15 meters depth ..

What did you do with your aunt?
Did you find the slots for the slings?
:)

[Dikson]

I don’t remember the juicy details .. but the boat commander, according to the old-timers, turned gray right there .. there was never any more talk about the excursion .. There were boats on the roadstead .. but neither of them were sailors, nor any of them .. )))

[Sergey S.]

Quote: SovAr238A

For such news that such generals and admirals bring us - we need to tear off epaulettes ... and expel them from service ...

Or secretly give out rewards for misinforming enemies ...
However, if the forum users from the Pentagon report to their superiors that we are ready to repair submarines of all types and spaceships at Dixon and the North Pole.

That we can, no doubt.
And I still have no doubt that delusional dreams come from zhurnalyug, who, for example, mixed up submarines with fishing boats, and Dixon can with Murmansk, or maybe with Kerch.

[Dikson]

In the photo, it’s for sure not Dixon .. Well, excuse me .. there is now one portal crane on the pier .. - rusty HANS .. (((

[Motop4uk]

Set up concrete boxes again ...
And all energy-efficient projects will remain in layouts.

[Dikson]

There, 12 km from the village, an open deposit of very good coal .. they brought it to New Zealand not so long ago ..))

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Dikson

There, 12 km from the village, an open deposit of very good coal .. they brought it to New Zealand not so long ago ..))

There's no point. Australia is almost the second largest exporter of high-quality coal in the world.

[Dikson]

The meaning means it was, if you drove .. You can look on the Internet for a photo - the "VostokUgol" office was engaged in this .. and it all worked out mysteriously there - the border zone, the access regime for Russians, and the company receives permission to admit and moor foreign ships ..)) ) As far as I know, later "Vostokugol" ran into a steep counter hook about tax evasion .. But they carried a high-quality Arctic coal exactly to New Zealand .. And then an interesting question of logistics arises .. Why carry coal from the Borodino mine to Tiksi and Dudinka on the Yenisei in navigation, if it is closer and cheaper to bring it from Dikson ??? It turned out - is it more profitable to take him to New Zealand ???

[Motop4uk]

Quote: askort154

... look at what military bases were built along the entire coast of the Northern Sea Route. He, by the way, passes next to Dixon.

So they know at the top about the real situation with warming.