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The State Duma approved the law on criminal liability for violation of quarantine

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The State Duma approved the law on criminal liability for violation of quarantine

The State Duma at a plenary meeting on Tuesday approved the first reading of the bill on criminal liability for violation of quarantine for coronavirus. This is reported by Russian media.


The adopted bill proposes to increase the punishment for violation of sanitary-epidemiological rules in force during quarantine. So, non-compliance with the rules, which entailed a massive illness of people by negligence, is proposed to be punished with a fine of 500 thousand to 1 million rubles, or by deprivation of the right to occupy certain posts or engage in certain activities for up to three years, or imprisonment for up to three years.

The same act, which entailed the death of a person by negligence, or involving the deliberate creation of a threat of mass disease of people, is proposed to be punished with a fine of 1 to 2 million rubles, or by deprivation of the right to a profession for up to five years, or by imprisonment up to five years. If a violation of the rules entails, through negligence, the death of two or more persons - imprisonment for up to seven years.

In addition, the deputies approved the bill as amended by the Code of Administrative Offenses (CAO RF), which establishes thousands of fines for violations of the coronavirus quarantine.

It is proposed to introduce administrative liability for violation of sanitary rules during the emergency mode or when there is a threat of the spread of a dangerous disease, during the period of quarantine, as well as for failure to comply with the issued order or requirement within the prescribed period. These offenses are punishable by a fine of 15 to 40 thousand rubles for individuals, from 50 to 150 thousand rubles for officials and individual entrepreneurs, and from 200 to 500 thousand rubles for legal entities. It is also possible to suspend activities for up to 90 days in relation to organizations and individual entrepreneurs.

The same acts that caused harm to human health or caused his death, but which do not contain signs of a crime, are punishable by a fine: for citizens - from 150 to 300 thousand rubles, for officials - from 300 to 500 thousand rubles or disqualification for a term of 1 years to 3 years, for entrepreneurs and legal entities - from 500 thousand to 1 million rubles, or suspension of activity for up to 90 days.

Also, amendments to the Code of Administrative Offenses on fines for disseminating false information about life-threatening circumstances, including epidemics, to the media or the Internet have been prepared. It is proposed to punish a fine of 1,5 to 3 million rubles for the distribution of fakes. If the distribution of a fake led to the death of a person, causing harm to human health or property, massive disruption of public order or termination of the functioning of life support facilities - from 3 to 5 million rubles. With repeated - from 5 to 10 million rubles.
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  1. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 31 March 2020 12: 08 New
    10
    DG is the resident of evil.
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 31 March 2020 12: 49 New
      19
      judging by the laws adopted, it’s an anti-people’s structure.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 31 March 2020 13: 28 New
        13
        That HD - parasites (by majority) - I agree.
        But during an epidemic, the law in favor of quarantine is correct.
        Now the main thing is to save as many lives as possible.
        When the trouble affected the State Duma itself, laws began to be adopted correctly, and quickly.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 31 March 2020 13: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: Shurik70
          But during an epidemic, the law in favor of quarantine is correct.

          Какой закон,какой карантин - "Из них 290 случаев заболевания зафиксированы в Москве. Власти столицы разрешили лечиться на дому тем, у кого коронавирус проявляется в легкой форме."
          1. Oden280
            Oden280 31 March 2020 18: 03 New
            0
            According to our legislation, quarantine can be introduced by decision of the government, with the consent of the State Duma simultaneously with the introduction of an emergency mode. If you introduce an emergency, then all the first howl and no one will complain.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 31 March 2020 18: 07 New
              -2
              Quote: Oden280
              If you introduce an emergency, then all the first howl and no one will complain.

              Well, yes, there is no one to complain about without emergency situations, but there is no reason to howl at all. Although if everything is voiced like that, then there will be no one to howl without emergency situations, and there will be no complainers ..
              1. Oden280
                Oden280 31 March 2020 18: 08 New
                0
                Well, without an emergency, you can write to the prosecutor and appeal to the court. The bar again has the right to vote.
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 31 March 2020 18: 12 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Oden280
                  Well, without an emergency, you can write to the prosecutor and appeal to the court.

                  But how will you get to this court, will you? Or didn’t you isolate yourself? Although you can’t let you go in there, you can write a fine or deadline right at the entrance.
                  And probably Lopatov’s colleagues will pass.
        2. Galleon
          Galleon 31 March 2020 13: 55 New
          0
          What is right in the law - real terms? Bring the disease to the colony, raise many terms to the highest measure? There is enough tuberculosis already.
          Why was it necessary to raise the responsibility to criminal, why it was impossible to dwell on the administrative? After all, the administration is easier and faster to impose a fine.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 31 March 2020 15: 39 New
            +1
            Those who are in the colony are not affected by these laws; they apply to those who have found the coronovirus free and those who place their garbage on the Internet.
            1. Galleon
              Galleon 31 March 2020 15: 53 New
              -3
              Quote: Vadim237
              Those in the colony are not affected by these laws.

              Of course it does not. But it can touch if an infected person gets there by sentence. And then it will be overnight hundreds and thousands of infected people, and with the level of medicine in the ITU, the fate of patients can only be sympathized with. In the current situation, I believe that the most serious vigilance and organizational measures should be implemented under quarantine of military units of constant readiness, military schools, boarding schools and ... institutions of the penitentiary system.
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        3. Snarkxnumx
          Snarkxnumx 31 March 2020 18: 47 New
          +3
          Let the emergency and quarantine be clearly announced. And compensate for the salaries of people.
          1. Senior seaman
            Senior seaman 31 March 2020 19: 20 New
            +1
            What about the self-employed?
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 31 March 2020 19: 58 New
              -2
              Quote: Senior Sailor
              What about the self-employed?

              Self-isolate if they do not want to self-destruct. request
              1. Senior seaman
                Senior seaman 31 March 2020 21: 05 New
                +2
                Я про "компенсировать зарплату людям".
                1. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 31 March 2020 22: 38 New
                  0
                  Quote: Senior Sailor
                  Я про "компенсировать зарплату людям".

                  And no how, most likely ... request
        4. grandfather_Kostya
          grandfather_Kostya April 1 2020 12: 22 New
          0
          When the trouble affected the State Duma itself, laws began to be adopted correctly, and quickly.

          I would agree when I saw in the law for deputies the most severe penalties.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 14: 08 New
        +6
        Quote: Gene84
        judging by the laws adopted, it’s an anti-people’s structure.

        And judging by the faces ... No.

        By the way, the lower right is suspiciously reminiscent of a certain gentleman in the letter “F”
        laughing
    2. dauria
      dauria 31 March 2020 12: 50 New
      20
      DG is the resident of evil.

      У евреев за нарушение 5 000 шекелей ( 1 500 баксов ) . Квитанция сразу, распечатывают в полицейской машине. Иди, гуляй . Жёстко . Ортодоксы вопят "нацисты", а их за шиворот и в автозак. Потом сваркой дверь синагоги намертво заварили. Пустые улицы, только по пропуску. Лихо организовано. Фейк - штраф или тюрьма.
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 31 March 2020 12: 55 New
        +1
        So in Israel, it’s warm there. laughing
      2. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 31 March 2020 13: 32 New
        +1
        Jews have for violation of 5 shekels (000 bucks)


        And approximately in Austria and France for the first violation - 130-150 euros. We have 2500 euros. And at vaaaaas, I can’t count the rubles well, but it seems immediately goes to 3500 euros .... well, give ... laughing

        Actually, Israel is not an example; it is a little military power (or a lot). In normal powers, the police work and there is no need to immediately crush people with huge, heavy fines. It’s just rubbish, canine fines ... we have already been fined more than hundreds of people for 2500 euros for a walk in the parks. Everything will fall in court after the state of emergency. Not a single euro will be raised. Today, the court filed more than 80 complaints about the order to wear masks on the street (a fine again 2500 euros). And the fact that one FFP3 mask costs 15-20 euros is worth nothing to them, while others are not very necessary and even harmful (according to the SZO, as it is - World Health Association, I do not know how it is in Russian.)

        In general, a little more stupidity and the people will take Kalashi instead of masks. Now I understand why we are not allowed to arm themselves as a population in Shchaty. Fig will come to me a fat policeman if he knows that I have a Glock in my holster, at home - Kalash, and on the phone - a good lawyer.
        1. dauria
          dauria 31 March 2020 14: 17 New
          +1
          Fig will come to me a fat policeman if he knows that I have a Glock in my holster, at home - Kalash, and on the phone - a good lawyer.


          когда доходит до калаша , адвокаты остаются без работы. Как и учителя, врачи, полиция, учёные и искусствоведы. Рушится государство. Потом правда снова зарождается, начиная с банд, группировок, отрядов "самообороны" - и по новой. До новой полиции, врачей , учёных , искусствоведов и адвокатов. Только закопать сотню-другую тысяч трупов.
          And it starts with the fact that someone was embarrassed to immediately shake a club
          rams need to stay at home during an epidemic. Spit that the treasury will not collect fines later. The main thing - now in a word, with a whip, not to miss the reins with anything.
        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 31 March 2020 16: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          as a population in Shchaty. Fig will come up to me a fat policeman, if he knows what Glock is in my holster

          In the states, if a fat policeman knows what you have in your holster, you will already be lying with a shot head. No need to idealize America. They will shoot only for the suspicion of the presence of weapons, if you reach for a holster.
        3. Oden280
          Oden280 31 March 2020 17: 59 New
          +3
          He will not come to you. He will shoot like a dog at your first move and will be right.
        4. Senior seaman
          Senior seaman 31 March 2020 19: 25 New
          +2
          And vaaaaas, I can’t count the rubles well

          the first - 500, the following with 15 rubles.
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 14: 10 New
        -3
        Quote: dauria
        Jews have for violation of 5 shekels

        Jews have a lot to learn. If it’s hard with science-intensive and legal issues, you can start with “circumcision” ... Moreover, without taking off your pants ... wassat
      4. Senior seaman
        Senior seaman 31 March 2020 19: 23 New
        +1
        Well, damn it, I can’t but approve!
    3. 4ekist
      4ekist 31 March 2020 13: 47 New
      +4
      Soon it will be warm everywhere. Forests begin to burn. We are waiting for the law on intentional and unintentional arson. And adequate punishment for this. Every year the same epic, damn it.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 14: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: 4ekist
        We are waiting for the law on intentional and unintentional arson.

        Conduct an experiment: make a fire in the city and stand with a portrait on the picket - when will the police drive up faster?
        1. 4ekist
          4ekist 31 March 2020 17: 24 New
          +3
          They will rush to the picket instantly, here the Zolotov guards will work instantly. And natural resources are like draws, robbery, cut down, burn, litter someone who is not lazy.
    4. den3080
      den3080 31 March 2020 14: 37 New
      +8
      The most interesting thing is that in the adopted law there is no mention of coronavirus. This means that the coronavirus will leave (there is no doubt), and the law will remain and everything is spelled out in it, and it will be possible to "pull" practically anyone the soul desires.
  2. lis-ik
    lis-ik 31 March 2020 12: 09 New
    27
    The deputies are not masked, a mass gathering in the conference room. Maybe they’ll start with themselves already.
    1. Dmitry Potapov
      Dmitry Potapov 31 March 2020 12: 18 New
      20
      Our deputies even touch the coronovirus zapadlo!
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 31 March 2020 13: 43 New
        +4
        Our deputies even touch the coronovirus


        But if now you bomb our Parliament into dust, I honestly take UTB as a friendly, fraternal gesture of the Russian people towards Bulgaria. We will put you another Alyosha or whatever you want in the center of Sofia. Well, maybe the Caliber layout, which you lower to the building ... something in grade. Yes, even a platoon Alesh - for this you do not have to skimp. Only chur - so that not a single cockroach would survive. bully
        1. dauria
          dauria 31 March 2020 14: 24 New
          -2
          But if now you bomb our Parliament into dust, I honestly take UTB as a friendly, fraternal gesture of the Russian people towards Bulgaria.


          Something you, Evgeny is evil today. The bill for the communal has come, or quarreled with the family? Now even the lousy government and the state must be protected - less bodies will have to be buried.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 31 March 2020 15: 16 New
            0
            Something you, Evgeny is evil today.


            Yes, I’m not evil - I’ve put a plus for you, so as not to minus :)

            Or I’m already evil, I don’t know - I’ve been sitting in quarantine for a month now, I’m watching the economy and the state fail, and my Government is stealing billions of euros and nothing comes of people. Well, it seems all the same evil :)
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 31 March 2020 15: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          let’s leave you another Alyosha or whatever you want in the center of Sofia.

          Alyosha do not touch, okay, right?
        3. Senior seaman
          Senior seaman 31 March 2020 19: 28 New
          +2
          Sorry, dear Eugene. Once we have already helped you. Next yourself!
    2. dison
      dison 31 March 2020 12: 18 New
      +1
      Why do they need it? I think they checked everything already.
      1. Gene84
        Gene84 31 March 2020 12: 51 New
        20
        they should set a positive example to people.
        they show a negative example.
        1. dison
          dison 31 March 2020 12: 55 New
          -2
          They show that he came from abroad, stay at home for 2 weeks do not rush. And masks, have long been warned everyone, do not help, so why continue to advertise them? and so they are not already in all pharmacies, dismantled against the backdrop of panic.
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 14: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: lis-ik
      The deputies are not masked, a mass gathering in the conference room.

      Here is the best mask for them:

      And to wear for the whole time of the meeting ... lol
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 31 March 2020 16: 29 New
      -2
      Quote: lis-ik
      The deputies are not masked, a mass gathering in the conference room. Maybe they’ll start with themselves already.

      These laws are for mere mortals. And those in power are also paid for the violation.
      Old people and old women who violated the regime of self-isolation are threatened to deprive the second part of material assistance in the amount of 2 thousand rubles. But the head of Tambov Natalia Makarevich for the fact that already in the midst of the epidemic of coronavirus flew abroad to rest, will receive a bonus of 400 thousand rubles, two official salaries. Local Tambov deputies voted for this. 24 for, against 2 against.
      That is, one must understand that these 24 would do the same ... The award was written out of the city budget. No, but what of this?
  3. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 31 March 2020 12: 09 New
    14
    I approve of it, tough but fair.
    1. mole
      mole 31 March 2020 13: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: Laksamana Besar
      I approve of it, tough but fair.

      Я одобряю: реальную ответственность за коррупцию, подмену понятий: "Летчица"-"боец нац батальона", "гонщица"-"лодырь-мажор", "бизнесмен"-"лицо подозреваемое в мошенничестве в особо крупном..." и т.д.
      Salaries of a physician-denounced authority.
      This is really - Tough and most importantly - JUST!
      Although populist! But sick of it!
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 13: 23 New
      +9
      In the case of quarantine, yes, but as far as I know, we have a self-isolation regime, not quarantine.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 31 March 2020 13: 35 New
        +1
        This refers to those who escaped from quarantine, having already been placed there.
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  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 31 March 2020 16: 05 New
    0
    we have a self-isolation mode, not quarantine.
    ideology of untouchables
  • kenig1
    kenig1 31 March 2020 12: 11 New
    +9
    This morning at 6.30 I went to the service in a taxi route, since the number of transport in Krasnodar was reduced by 2/3, people crowded like rush hour.
  • mat-vey
    mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 11 New
    +9
    And when they entered quarantine? Who will not tell?
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 31 March 2020 12: 15 New
      11
      He was not entered. Introduced fines.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 31 March 2020 12: 24 New
        10
        That is, they will not announce quarantine, but they will fine? But they said that not the 37th
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 27 New
          -1
          Quote: Gardamir
          That is, they will not announce quarantine, but they will fine? But they said that not the 37th

          So the economy suffers, it is necessary somewhere to take the means to support themselves beloved ..
          For one and safety, the inviolability of the constitution to demonstrate.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 31 March 2020 15: 43 New
            -1
            You from this for the economy and the millionth part will not gain from the required amount.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 31 March 2020 15: 51 New
              0
              А какая сумма требуется?А возможность чтобы любого за глотку взять можно было какую "сумму" обеспечить моет?А то состав преступления не определён,а наказание предусмотрено - трактуй как хочешь ..
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 31 March 2020 12: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: Gardamir
          quarantine will not be announced, but will be fined?

          Attention to the screen:
          It is proposed to punish a fine of 1,5 to 3 million rubles for the distribution of fakes
          So far I’ve walked along the edge. yes laughing
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 50 New
            +4
            Minusators ...
            They are sure that if you quietly squeeze a couple of cons, it will change the reality ... laughing
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 31 March 2020 13: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: Spade
              Minusators ...
              They are sure that if you quietly squeeze a couple of cons, it will change the reality ... laughing

              Эту реальность - "Из них 290 случаев заболевания зафиксированы в Москве. Власти столицы разрешили лечиться на дому тем, у кого коронавирус проявляется в легкой форме."?
              Что там по "закону" который мы не знаем за распространение ?Накажут кого?Или?
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 31 March 2020 14: 53 New
                +2
                Quote: mat-vey
                Эту реальность - "Из них 290 случаев заболевания зафиксированы в Москве.

                And you think that having put Paranoid50 seven minuses your company will achieve that there will be no cases?
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 31 March 2020 15: 18 New
                  0
                  And what about the company, is it from a great mind? And does your company think that if you fine citizens in violation of the laws, but at the same time letting the epidemic out of the hospitals of carriers will come to naught?
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 31 March 2020 15: 21 New
                    0
                    Quote: mat-vey
                    And about the company it is from a big mind?

                    No, this is from your organization.
                    Only distracted, a dozen minuses.
                    1. mat-vey
                      mat-vey 31 March 2020 15: 23 New
                      0
                      How are you with the nerves? Are you being watched? And this is to reveal the secret about the organization, otherwise many are probably intrigued ..
                      Quote: Spade
                      No, this is from your organization.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 31 March 2020 15: 23 New
                        -1
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        How are you with the nerves? Are you being watched? And this is to reveal the secret about the organization, otherwise many are probably intrigued ..

                        Late to get out. Already caught
                      2. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 March 2020 15: 25 New
                        0
                        So, are you sure your nerves are alright? Or does your fantasy know no bounds? Then would that explain a lot?
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 31 March 2020 15: 25 New
                        0
                        Once again, late ....
                      4. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 March 2020 15: 26 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Spade
                        Once again, late ....

                        What, you can’t save you? Has everything gone very far and irreversibly?
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 14: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Spade
        Minusators ...
        They are sure that if you quietly squeeze a couple of cons, it will change the reality ...

        This is the main defect of the site administration. The people must know their "heroes."
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 31 March 2020 15: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          The people must know their "heroes."

          Тоже было бы интересно знать кто за вопросы "про погоду" минусит.Оно всё равно конечно - флудилка она и есть флудилка...Просто интересно что такие эмоции вызывает).
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 31 March 2020 16: 08 New
      -1
      Attention to the screen

      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 31 March 2020 16: 14 New
        +1
        Then if only in rhyme. laughing And yes, then do not whine for rights and freedoms. yes
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 31 March 2020 12: 33 New
    +9
    Quote: Gardamir
    That is, they will not announce quarantine, but they will fine? But they said that not the 37th

    Вы шутите ? 37-й это торжество закона по сравнению с тем,что сейчас твориться. Вот попробуйте найти в законах такое понятие как "принудительная самоизоляция" smile
    Simply put, the laws were simply repealed as unnecessary. In fact, in 3 months the authorities brought the matter to a complete collapse of statehood. Moreover, in a completely calm situation without any agents of the State Department and the Jewish masons.
    Now only the increase in oil prices can save the situation.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Odyssey
      Simply put, the laws were simply repealed as unnecessary.

      Or maybe you just don’t know them?
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 58 New
        0
        Well, you know. Tell me under what law the restriction of freedoms of citizens can be introduced and who can do it ..
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 31 March 2020 13: 00 New
          +8
          Quote: mat-vey
          Tell by what law restriction of freedoms of citizens

          Do you consider the right to spread viruses to be an integral part of citizens' freedoms?
          And are you ready to fight for this right until the last resident of Russia?
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 31 March 2020 13: 10 New
            +2
            Странно ,а вроде не "особо одарённый" не то что мы.Я считаю что если провозглашено - "всё по закону",то и надо по закону. Если ЧС,то и объявлять ЧС как положено по закону со всеми вытекающими,а не пороть отсебятину в каждом уезде и подъезде .
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 31 March 2020 13: 14 New
              +4
              Quote: mat-vey
              Я считаю что если провозглашено - "всё по закону",то и надо по закону.

              Well, learn these laws, and do not break them.
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 31 March 2020 13: 32 New
                0
                Quote: Spade
                Well, learn these laws, and do not break them.

                И что там про нарушение "самоизоляции" сказано?И в каком законе?
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 14: 23 New
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            Do you consider the right to spread viruses to be an integral part of citizens' freedoms?
            And are you ready to fight for this right until the last resident of Russia?

            In Kuzbass, for 2 657 758 people, 2 cases of infection with coronavirus and 55 000 HIV-infected were recorded ... Attention, question:
            Who is more valuable to motherland?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 31 March 2020 14: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: ROSS 42
              In Kuzbass, for 2 657 758 people, 2 cases of infection with coronavirus and 55 000 HIV-infected were recorded ... Attention, question:
              Who is more valuable to motherland?

              I do not understand the question.
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 16: 05 New
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                I do not understand the question.

                Are you pretending or just turned the toggle switch in the wrong position?
                For those on an armored train, I repeat: 2 or 55? Which is more dangerous? What is important to deal with in more radical ways?
                Every year in Kuzbass, 6-6,5 thousand new HIV carriers are identified. This indicator, according to statistics, has remained at the same level for the past five years.

                will coronavirus progress at the same pace?
                There are no masks in pharmacies, no one-time gloves. Wipe the mouth, esophagus and stomach with brandy? About this is the essence of the question, which can be expressed in two words:
                What's the use? belay
      2. Odysseus
        Odysseus 31 March 2020 13: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        Or maybe you just don’t know them?

        Прекрасно. Вот и найти мне дорогой Лопатов в законах РФ положение о "самоизоляции".
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 31 March 2020 13: 11 New
          -4
          Quote: Odyssey
          Прекрасно. Вот и найти мне дорогой Лопатов в законах РФ положение о "самоизоляции".

          But why?
          Вас посадят не за "самоизоляцию". И посадят обязательно, ибо не знать законы настолько- просто опасно.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 31 March 2020 13: 29 New
            +5
            Quote: Spade
            But why?

            Really dear Lopatov, why look for what is not there smile
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 31 March 2020 14: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: Odyssey
              Really dear Lopatov, why look for what is not there

              laughing
              Вот за это "нет" Вас и посадят.
              Ибо "незнание не освобождает"
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 31 March 2020 13: 12 New
          +7
          Quote: Odyssey
          Прекрасно. Вот и найти мне дорогой Лопатов в законах РФ положение о "самоизоляции".

          Положений таких нет.. но слово "самоизоляция" как бы предполагает, что человек, все сам.. все сам..так сказать по собственному желанию, самоизолировался.. wassat interesting practice at first self-isolated .. then self-removed .. and then self-destructed .. laughing
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 31 March 2020 13: 34 New
            +4
            Quote: Svarog
            so to speak, of their own free will, self-insulated .. wassat an interesting practice first self-insulated .. then self-removed .. and then self-destructed ..

            But pre-pay all the fines, as existing so promising.
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 14: 28 New
            +5
            Quote: Svarog
            Положений таких нет.. но слово "самоизоляция" как бы предполагает, что человек, все сам.. все сам..так сказать по собственному желанию, самоизолировался.. wassat

            Dear Vladimir! A vivid example of “self-isolation” is the house arrest of the defendant in the case of the Ministry of Defense, Ms. Evgenia Vasilyeva, thieves in trust, poetess and artist ...
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 31 March 2020 12: 38 New
    +7
    Quote: Gardamir
    That is, they will not announce quarantine, but they will fine?

    Enter the quarantine, so emergency or emergency must also be entered. And to introduce emergency situations and emergency ... So there it is necessary to provide the inhabitants there, at least within the physiological minimum. I didn’t come up with it, so I prescribed a shoigu for the Ministry of Emergencies. And to feed the inhabitants ... what nonsense, they self-isolated them and okay. If anyone dies, from hunger, you can always bring an Uzbek to his place.
  • teron
    teron 31 March 2020 12: 15 New
    +3
    Not yet, but it's a preparation. When introduced, you don’t have to rush to deal with technical issues.
  • dison
    dison 31 March 2020 12: 19 New
    +9
    Quarantine for patients, if they consciously go to infect everyone, then they will have to answer for it.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 22 New
      +3
      Quarantine for patients, if they consciously go to infect everyone, then they will have to answer for it.
      The State Duma at a plenary meeting on Tuesday approved the first reading of the bill on criminal liability for violation of the quarantine for coronavirus.
      "Предлагается ввести административную ответственность за нарушение санитарных правил в период режима ЧС"
      1. dison
        dison 31 March 2020 12: 25 New
        +4
        А выше что написано не в счет? "Принятый законопроект предлагает усилить наказание за нарушение санитарно-эпидемиологических правил, действующих во время карантина"
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 29 New
          +5
          Вы пропустили "по кароновирусу" - что уже объявили карантин по кароновирусу?
          1. dison
            dison 31 March 2020 12: 32 New
            +6
            There is nothing in common, but what about those who come from abroad not quarantined for 2 weeks?
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 36 New
              +2
              Вы статью читали?Ну ещё разок тогда:"Госдума на пленарном заседании во вторник одобрила в первом чтении законопроект об уголовной ответственности за нарушение карантина по коронавирусу."
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 36 New
            +4
            Quote: mat-vey
            Вы пропустили "по кароновирусу"

            He did not miss anything.
            Article 236 of the Criminal Code applies not only to coronavirus.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 37 New
              -2
              Have you read the article?
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 40 New
                +6
                Quote: mat-vey
                Have you read the article?

                Of course. In the old edition:

                Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 236. Violation of sanitary and epidemiological rules

                1. Violation of sanitary-epidemiological rules, which entailed by negligence a mass disease or poisoning of people, -
                shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to eighty thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's salary or other income for a period of up to six months, or by deprivation of the right to hold certain posts or engage in certain activities for up to three years, or compulsory work for up to three hundred and sixty hours, or correctional labor for up to one year, or restriction of freedom for up to one year.
                2. The same act that caused the death of a person through negligence -
                shall be punished by compulsory labor for a term of up to four hundred eighty hours, or correctional labor for a term of six months to two years, or forced labor for a term of up to five years, or imprisonment for the same term.


                Now the article is being tightened.

                И попробуйте найти в её тексте "коронавирус", "карантин", "черезвычайную ситуацию" и прочую муть...
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 43 New
                  -1
                  Try to read the article you are discussing ..
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 45 New
                    +4
                    Quote: mat-vey
                    Try to read the article you are discussing ..

                    To understand that you, damn it, did not read it?
                    Or read, but did not understand anything?

                    For the gifted: there is article 236 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The punishment for this article was decided to tighten.
                    EVERYTHING.
                    1. mat-vey
                      mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 53 New
                      -1
                      Well, where do we think about titans .. We don’t even know that there is quarantine for coronavirus.
                    2. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 58 New
                      +4
                      Quote: mat-vey
                      Well, where do we think the titans

                      Indeed, where do you ....
                      Just no time to figure it out, it's time to hysteria ...
                    3. mat-vey
                      mat-vey 31 March 2020 13: 39 New
                      +1
                      Well, you're smart, you figured out when quarantine was introduced ...
                    4. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 31 March 2020 14: 54 New
                      0
                      Once again, for you personally, they can be imprisoned without a quarantine announcement.
                    5. mat-vey
                      mat-vey 31 March 2020 18: 48 New
                      0
                      Well, yes, for example, Sobyanin, without declaring a quarantine, began repressions.
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 31 March 2020 12: 29 New
    0
    Quote: mat-vey
    It is proposed to introduce administrative liability for violation of sanitary rules during the emergency mode

    But there is no emergency in the country. Nothing at all. In addition to the decree on the weekend week. And all these self-isolation .... If you carefully study the legislation of the Russian Federation, it turns out funny. Applications for self-isolation clearly and specifically go through an article on extremism. For undermining the foundations of the constitutional system of the country. Yeah.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 34 New
      -3
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Applications for self-isolation clearly and specifically go through an article on extremism. For undermining the foundations of the constitutional system of the country. Yeah.

      При этом нарушают в этой самой "книге" всё что можно ..Это наверное что бы поправки легче обсуждать было .
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      But there is no emergency in the country.

      But the legal nihilists of the sea.
      What, damn it, emergency?
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 41 New
        -2
        Quote: Spade
        But the legal nihilists of the sea.

        Are you talking to yourself? Or are there any constitutions that are no longer law to anyone?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: mat-vey
          Are you talking to yourself?

          This is me and your colleagues.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 44 New
            -2
            А кто у меня "коллеги"?
            1. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi 31 March 2020 13: 10 New
              0
              Quote: mat-vey
              А кто у меня "коллеги"?

              And everyone who wants to live according to the law, and not according to concepts.
      2. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 31 March 2020 12: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: Spade
        But the legal nihilists of the sea.

        Вы о себе? Так вы вроде не из РФ, как я понимаю. так что как то плевать на ваше отношение к закону. А я вот в России обитаю. И мне категорически не нравится, когда какой то зажравшийся чинуша, по факту домуправ из "Бриллиантовой руки", только чуточку крупнее калибром, начинает открыто плевать на Конституцию my country.
        "Обязательства государства обеспечить равенство граждан перед законом, their democratic rights and freedoms предусматриваются нормами международного права (в частности, Всеобщей декларацией прав человека от 10 декабря 1948 года (статья 18), Международным пактом о гражданских и политических правах от 16 декабря 1966 года (статья 18), Международной конвенцией о ликвидации всех форм расовый дискриминации от 21 декабря 1965 года (статья 5), Декларацией Генеральной Ассамблеи ООН от 25 ноября 1981 года (резолюция 36/55 о ликвидации всех форм нетерпимости и дискриминации на основе религии и убеждений), Конвенцией о защите прав человека и основных свобод от 4 ноября 1950 года (статья 9), Шанхайской конвенция о борьбе с терроризмом, сепаратизмом и экстремизмом 2001 года (преамбула). Указанные конституционно значимые и общепризнанные международным сообществом ценности являются объектом уголовноправовой и административной охраны в соответствии с Уголовным кодексом Российской Федерации и Кодексом Российской Федерации об административных правонарушениях."
        This, if chew, quote from the site of the Ministry of Internal Affairs dot rf. Only the court, if individually, or the Duma and the president, if everyone is total, can limit my freedoms. If this is trying to make some kind of manager ... That is at least extremism, and possibly terrorism. And this is real extremism. And yesterday, they were simply obliged to accept all the Soboborobov, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB yesterday. And now, these gentlemen would have to actively testify, encouraged by a good investigator. And if you didn’t accept .... Then they are either corrupt by nowhere, or professional impotent.
        But the legal nihilist is just you.
        Dixi.
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  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 31 March 2020 12: 25 New
    0
    The Criminal Code contains article 121
    . Infection of another person with a venereal disease by a person who knew that he had this disease
    So what's nothing new
    1. dison
      dison 31 March 2020 12: 27 New
      +2
      Do not you think that a sexually transmitted disease is infected in a slightly different way?
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 39 New
        -2
        Quote: dison
        Do not you think that a sexually transmitted disease is infected in a slightly different way?

        There are many different sexually transmitted diseases. And the ways of infection are different.
        1. dison
          dison 31 March 2020 12: 43 New
          +2
          But among there is no transmission of these diseases by air! and in general, coronovirus is not a sexually transmitted disease!
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 31 March 2020 12: 55 New
            -2
            Quote: dison
            and in general, coronovirus is not a sexually transmitted disease!

            So, because of sexually transmitted diseases can not be quarantined?
            1. dison
              dison 31 March 2020 12: 57 New
              +4
              And what do these diseases have to do with it? What do they have to do with the current situation?
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 31 March 2020 13: 02 New
                -3
                Well, if you are discussing quarantines at all, then any infectious disease can, in principle, be brought to quarantine. And if it’s about coronavirus, when was quarantine announced?
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 31 March 2020 14: 49 New
        -1
        You can catch the same syphilis asexually through utensils and cutlery, towels, in the bathhouse and pool.
  • mole
    mole 31 March 2020 13: 27 New
    -1
    Today, on March 31, I received an SMS:
    From March 28 to April 5, please stay home ....
    Verily better late than never!
  • _Sergei_
    _Sergei_ 31 March 2020 13: 32 New
    0
    So far for five days from Monday
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 31 March 2020 12: 12 New
    11
    In the fight against human idiocy, such a measure is mandatory, but how effective time will show. A simple example .. In Chisinau, young people through social networks agreed to meet with the company and have a drink, dance, etc. ... in general, someone called the police and these life-burners were warned if one of the ten young men present was infected, he would sit down instantly . That's how we live....
  • Amateur
    Amateur 31 March 2020 12: 13 New
    +3
    And why themselves without personal protective equipment? Or consider the infection to contagion deputy not pester?
  • knn54
    knn54 31 March 2020 12: 15 New
    +2
    So after this decree tell jokes about the coronavirus ...
  • paul3390
    paul3390 31 March 2020 12: 18 New
    +6
    Quote: NEXUS
    In the fight against human idiocy, such a measure is mandatory, but how effective time will show
    It seems - it is necessary as in India. They say the policemen of the violators are stupidly beaten with sticks immediately. Otherwise, it doesn’t reach everyone that the situation is serious and the jokes are over ..
    1. reservist
      reservist 31 March 2020 13: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      ... like in India. They say the policemen of the violators stupidly immediately beat with sticks ..

    2. bondrostov
      bondrostov 31 March 2020 16: 02 New
      -1
      How do our old-timers crack their skins!
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 31 March 2020 12: 21 New
    11
    Maybe I didn’t understand what, but the measures were announced at the time of quarantine. Did someone announce quarantine? Non-working days - this is never quarantine, or am I mistaken?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Did someone announce quarantine?

      Конечно.
      For example, in our city in quarantine a whole porch sits.
      Злые полицейские торчат круглосуточно внизу и загоняют обратно разбегающихся как тараканов жителей. "Мне хлеб купить", "Мне собачку выгулять"
      They threaten to brew the door to hell ...
      1. Kleber
        Kleber 31 March 2020 13: 33 New
        +1
        In Penza, a similar chip with an entrance.
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 31 March 2020 12: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Maybe I didn’t understand what, but the measures were announced at the time of quarantine. Did someone announce quarantine? Non-working days - this is never quarantine, or am I mistaken?

      But for too smart questions and will be fined smile
      Вы бы еще спросили,что такое "принудительная самоизоляция" и кто за нее будет платить....
    3. Cowbra
      Cowbra 31 March 2020 12: 45 New
      +3
      Measures for the infected. In quarantine. For example, in contact with a sick person. Here they are in quarantine. And self-isolation - it’s like - you don’t have to observe it, just understand that risks arise for you. But you are not quarantined.
      Вы бы еще спросили,что такое "принудительная самоизоляция"
      And what happens? Grabbing hands, dragging in a gas chamber?
      Сказки братьев Гримм, том второй "Как крававый рыжим пол-страны посажал у концлагерь, в три слоя"
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Cowbra
        And self-isolation - it’s like - you can not observe it,

        Но если из-за её несоблюдения кто-то заразится и умрёт, готовься сесть на семь лет. В статье УК нет упоминания "карантина"
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 31 March 2020 12: 52 New
          +1
          Actions that caused the spread of the virus? It may well be planted. If you where the general quarantine is declared, and it is state of emergency. Where do we have this? Unless in hospitals. This is where the doctor can easily get for a period for the mask removed. And rightly so, he understands the consequences
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 31 March 2020 12: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: Cowbra
            Actions that caused the spread of the virus?

            "Violation of sanitary and epidemiological rules, resulting in negligence of a mass disease or poisoning of people", если быть точным.
            We, I remember, one of the commanders of the battalions and the chief of regiment turned on this article after mass pneumonia with three corpses ...
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra 31 March 2020 13: 00 New
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              "Нарушение санитарно-эпидемиологических правил, повлекшее по неосторожности массовое заболевание или отравление людей", если быть точным.

              The adopted bill proposes to increase the punishment for violation of sanitary-epidemiological rules, operating during quarantine.

              Have you really submitted a law for violating just the sanepid rules? Which ones? Legal delirium - you can put a child who hasn’t washed his hands in kindergarten.
              Hello to your battalion commander - he is also responsible for the health of the fighters. Twisted a little, you see.
              Legislative initiative proposes to introduce administrative liability for violation of sanitary rules during the emergency or if there is a threat of the spread of a dangerous disease, during the implementation of restrictive measures in the relevant territory (Quarantine), as well as for failure to comply with the established order or requirement to conduct sanitary and anti-epidemic (preventive) measures.

              https://стопкоронавирус.рф//news/20200331-1111.html
              Official
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 31 March 2020 13: 03 New
                0
                Quote: Cowbra
                Have you really submitted a law for violating just the sanepid rules? Which ones?

                That's it!
                Which ones? Which the prosecutor will present. For ignorance does not exempt from responsibility.
                Somewhere it says that you need to wash your hands once an hour, you did not wash, and you infected a person. And ran into a criminal.
                1. Cowbra
                  Cowbra 31 March 2020 13: 06 New
                  +4
                  Well, there’s the wording above. As for the rest, you’ll get into quarantine - you will be quickly informed that don’t go there, go here
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 31 March 2020 13: 08 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Cowbra
                    Well, there’s the wording above.

                    One composes the other spread.

                    There are adequate journalists
                    For example. here:
                    https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/articles/2020/03/31/826686-gosduma
                    1. Cowbra
                      Cowbra 31 March 2020 13: 26 New
                      +3
                      And there are NOT JOURNALISTS. Departmental website of the Government of the Russian Federation. Documents - OFFICIAL
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 31 March 2020 14: 55 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Cowbra
                        Departmental website of the Government of the Russian Federation

                        laughing laughing laughing
                        Go to the MO site, tapm such pearls in the news ....
              2. Lopatov
                Lopatov 31 March 2020 13: 05 New
                -2
                Quote: Cowbra
                The adopted bill proposes to increase the punishment for violation of sanitary and epidemiological rules in force during quarantine.

                I will not say anything about the low quality of some news articles on VO.

                It was here that the author did not understand that there was only a tightening of the provisions of the Criminal Code and the Code of Administrative Offenses. And he wrote a sea of ​​gag.
        2. bondrostov
          bondrostov 31 March 2020 16: 04 New
          -1
          Shovels I hope self-isolation does not help you.
      2. Odysseus
        Odysseus 31 March 2020 12: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Cowbra
        And self-isolation - it’s like - you don’t have to observe it, just understand that risks arise for you.

        Another liberal and agent of the State Department. Do not spread fake news! Read the self-isolation clause !!
        "Обязать:
        "Граждан не покидать места проживания (пребывания), за исключением случаев обращения за экстренной (неотложной) медицинской помощью и случаев иной прямой угрозы жизни и здоровью, случаев следования к месту (от места) осуществления деятельности (в том числе работы), которая не приостановлена в соответствии с настоящим указом"
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 31 March 2020 13: 08 New
          +3
          Либераст, несешь ложь. Где слово "обязать" в официалке и почему при этом из города я могу уехать хоть сейчас?
          Liberota - she is so stupid that it’s already fun. They crap themselves so that no one cheats them denser laughing
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 31 March 2020 13: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Cowbra
            Где слово "обязать" в официалке

            Oh, you Navalnist do not let up! You sharpen all your teeth on patriots !! How many shekels the American embassy pays you !!!
            Here is vrazhina- Russian newspaper. The official decree of our holy mayor Sergei Semenovich
            https://rg.ru/2020/03/29/moscow-ukaz34-reg-dok.html
            Clause 9. Specifically clause 9.3.
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra 31 March 2020 13: 35 New
              +1
              implementation of activities (including
              work), which is not suspended in accordance with this decree,
              the implementation of activities related to movement within the territory
              Moscow city, if such movement is directly related
              with the implementation of activities that are not suspended in accordance
              with this decree (including the provision of transport services and services
              delivery)

              laughing Clause 9.3. Read. Those. I got on the bus - and drove off. Where he wanted. Activity is not suspended. If I find a tavern along the way, I can swell, and then I went.
              And yet - there is no talk of responsibility. So I can put a bolt - this decree is purely voluntary!
              Liberota - such a Liberota
              1. Odysseus
                Odysseus 31 March 2020 13: 47 New
                +1
                Oh my God. Well, ashamed already. Why are you posing as a clown! After all, for sure. An adult.
                It’s even inconvenient for me to offend you myself.
                Paragraph 9 begins with words To oblige . you understand To oblige . And to oblige and mean coercion.
                Have you read the text of the document?
                И потом никуда "набухаться" Вы поехать не можете.Вы вообще не можете покидать место проживания за исключением некоторого ряду случаев описанных в пункте 9.3 . В числе них " а также следования к ближайшему месту приобретения товаров". То есть Вы можете пройти только в ближайший магазин и там купить "бухло" если оно Вам так необходимо.
                1. Cowbra
                  Cowbra 31 March 2020 13: 55 New
                  +2
                  What responsibility? No. Obliged? Flag in hand! And I did not undertake - free!
                  -Gav!
                  -You too.
                  The last was - specifically for you laughing
                  I oblige you to stop carrying nonsense! The strength of my decree is exactly the same.
    4. Liam
      Liam 31 March 2020 12: 58 New
      +3
      How fast the world is changing .. only a week ago there were so many words about Ukrainian measures ...
      Make a fool pray .. (s)
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 31 March 2020 13: 57 New
        +1
        Yes. And the funny thing is - I was right. Unlike you, telling tales about the power of Italian medicine
        1. Liam
          Liam 31 March 2020 14: 04 New
          0
          Chicks in the fall count (s)
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 31 March 2020 14: 47 New
            +2
            So winter is already :)))
            1. Liam
              Liam 31 March 2020 15: 15 New
              +1
              It seems that you do not follow the numbers in your own country. When the number of infected people doubles every 3 days, this is called an explosive epidemic .... don't anger God
              1. bondrostov
                bondrostov 31 March 2020 16: 08 New
                -1
                I am more afraid of the prospect of dying without work from hunger. In general, natural selection drives. (as God decides)
              2. mat-vey
                mat-vey 31 March 2020 18: 21 New
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                Quote: Liam
                ... do not anger god

                А отпускать лечиться доой болеющих в лёгкой форме это сильно "гневить бога"?
                1. Liam
                  Liam 31 March 2020 18: 31 New
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                  Who is ill in mild form and should not go to the hospital. And sit locked up at home.
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 31 March 2020 18: 37 New
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                    Quote: Liam
                    Who is ill in mild form and should not go to the hospital. And sit locked up at home.

                    Maybe he’ll shoot right away? Or he’ll ask for a drink, there are all kinds of medications. Moreover, the Chinese have identified the pathogen in the feces.
                    And I realized - it’s also necessary to infect loved ones ..
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 31 March 2020 18: 46 New
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                      Staying at home does not mean not drinking medicine. Drinking pills is not necessary in the hospital, as it were. Or do you have hundreds of thousands of beds in the infectious diseases wards? And millions of doctors and nurses
                      1. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 March 2020 18: 53 New
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                        Having an infectious disease does not mean being an expert in anti-epidemic measures. Who can guarantee that you can comply with them?
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 31 March 2020 19: 17 New
                        -1
                        In this case, the anti-epidemic measures are simple and accessible to any reasonable person — not to contact other people. And there will never be a more reliable and comfortable place than your own home.
                      3. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 March 2020 19: 20 New
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                        Quote: Liam
                        -Do not contact other people

                        Here for this hospital and exist.
                        Although the Chinese are probably very stupid once they spread all the sick to hospitals, it is not clear how to curb the infection.
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 31 March 2020 19: 24 New
                        +1
                        This is a hospital. Do you not contact other people?) When was the last time you were there?
                        The Chinese curbed by shutting everyone home and releasing 1 of the family once a week to the store and patrolling the city with army police and drones. And only the heaviest were taken to hospitals
                      5. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 March 2020 19: 37 New
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                        Quote: Liam
                        This is in the hospital. Do you have any contact with other people?)

                        In a hospital, it seems that patients are in contact with patients, or is it not?
                        Quote: Liam
                        The Chinese curbed by shutting everyone home and releasing 1 of the family once a week to the store and patrolling the city with army police and drones.

                        This is called quarantine, and not some kind of self-isolation .. That's just it and must be introduced according to the law with all due measures.
                      6. Liam
                        Liam 31 March 2020 19: 41 New
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                        In hospitals, not only the coronavirus is ill if that.
                        Speaking of hospitals. That's what happened in exemplary.
                        The hospital in Kommunarka, where the head physician Denis Protsenko became infected with the coronavirus, decides on self-isolation or testing for medical staff, Interfax reports with reference to the data of the Russia 24 television channel.

                        At present, it is being established which of the hospital employees contacted Protsenko.

                        “And these are all nurses, this is all medical staff, this is the main nurse ... all those who had access to intensive care wards. We have contacted these people today. Now the question is being solved, what to do in the right way - go to self-isolation or pass a test, ”the correspondent said

                        Imagine what happens in an ordinary district or city.
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        This is called quarantine.

                        What is so important for you? If you call quarantine less infected and the temperature will be lower?
                      7. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 March 2020 19: 48 New
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                        Quote: Liam
                        What is so important for you? If you call quarantine less infected and the temperature will be lower?

                        Are you trying to joke now or what? If quarantine is introduced, then appropriate measures are taken.
                        Quote: Liam
                        In hospitals, not only the coronavirus is ill if that.

                        Are you talking about that? Do doctors don’t know that separate rooms and buildings exist? Or are doctors so stupid and stupid that they put pregnant patients with coronavirus?
                        Quote: Liam
                        Speaking of chatterboxes. That's what happened in exemplary fashion.

                        Well, even doctors cannot protect themselves, and relatives mean cooler than doctors, albeit with fewer opportunities than in the hospital ..
                      8. Liam
                        Liam 31 March 2020 19: 55 New
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                        Quote: mat-vey
                        Are you trying to joke now or what? If quarantine is introduced, then appropriate measures are taken

                        Which specifically?
                      9. Liam
                        Liam 31 March 2020 19: 58 New
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                        Quote: mat-vey
                        What doctors do not know that separate wards and buildings exist

                        I'm afraid that realities are different from theory.
                      10. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 31 March 2020 20: 02 New
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                        Quote: Liam
                        Which specifically?

                        And which ones did China accept, or is it for some reason not convenient for you?
                        If I’m not the chief sanitary doctor, not the head of the civil emergency department, well, the chairman of the Federation Council, and naturally not the president, so I can’t list what measures are needed in accordance with the current situation ...
                      11. Liam
                        Liam 31 March 2020 20: 41 New
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                        Do you need a government decree with the word Quarantine, and so you can be shot at with a club on your back to understand that you need to protect your health and stay at home?
                      12. Nehist
                        Nehist 31 March 2020 22: 23 New
                        +1
                        Are you kidding or don’t really understand that without the introduction of the Quarantine regime, people don’t care about isolation itself or the private business that this people exploits. The state without the announcement of the Quarantine or emergency regime has no legal and real leverage
                      13. Liam
                        Liam 31 March 2020 23: 04 New
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                        I really don’t understand why a normal person who has been watching the world blaze for 2 months and sees tens of thousands of deaths needs some kind of leverage to preserve his health, his children and parents.
                      14. Nehist
                        Nehist April 1 2020 00: 08 New
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                        And in order to feed his children, a person is forced to go to work, otherwise they will be fired without severance pay. Private business does not care about all these recommendations. In my city, as large shops worked, they work while those whose goods are not on the approved list.
                  2. mat-vey
                    mat-vey April 1 2020 05: 31 New
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                    Quote: Liam
                    Do you need a government decree with the word Quarantine, and so you can be shot at with a club on your back to understand that you need to protect your health and stay at home?

                    Do you only have batons on your mind?
                    And who will organize the hospital? And the equipment? And sanitary and preventive measures? And to identify the sources of the diseased? .... All by yourself? Yes, you are a genius and a titan all rolled into one ..
  • Liam
    Liam April 1 2020 00: 16 New
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    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    about the power of Italian medicine

    Here in a language you understand. Look at your leisure
    https://youtu.be/ZrRunLIl9K0
  • Fishery
    Fishery 31 March 2020 15: 09 New
    +2
    scolding all the news from Ukraine, it’s already like a good tone on
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  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 31 March 2020 12: 22 New
    0
    I would like to see the quarantine law.
  • Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 31 March 2020 12: 32 New
    11
    it was necessary to immediately do as the Kazakhs did, to close the hell without any liberal-democratic snot


  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 31 March 2020 12: 39 New
    +8
    Neither visually nor in the public cameras of police outfits is almost invisible. Without serious quarantine measures, this will work poorly. The Russian Guard and the army are time to get connected.

    Вообще-то прогнозы довольно мрачные. Что бы государство не деградировало ГДепутаты должны ещё много чего "отрегулировать": систему распределения продуктов, работу села и смежных отраслей, консервацию бизнеса и пр...

    Трамп поступил проще: не стал закрывать оружейные магазины. Дикий Запад "отрегулирует" себя сам. bully
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 31 March 2020 12: 41 New
    +4
    Not news. Intentionally contracting AIDS is a criminal article. Here is the same story
  • Radikal
    Radikal 31 March 2020 12: 42 New
    +8
    The State Duma approved the law on criminal liability for violation of quarantine
    Yah?! Is Marshu Tambov forcibly returned from Vietnam and put in a jail ?! lol
    1. agMakc
      agMakc 31 March 2020 14: 18 New
      0
      Did she violate quarantine?
  • Leshy1975
    Leshy1975 31 March 2020 12: 44 New
    10
    Да ни чего с нами не случится. Смех, как известно продлевает жизнь. А "наши" власти всё для этого и делают, что бы борьбу с заявленной эпидемией, превратить в трагикомедию. Есть ли где ещё такой управленческий хаос, как у нас?
    1) Interestingly, and the term - isolation, has already been included in the legislation, how to understand and interpret it? Not every official individually, as he understands it, namely, by law?
    2) And then after all, they already made decisions, now they change:
    First (source mir24.tv) - The general regime of self-isolation in Moscow will last about two weeks, the Moscow headquarters for the fight against coronavirus reports. In the official headquarters Telegram channel there was information that according to the decree of the mayor of Moscow, the regime of self-isolation must be observed up to to 14 April.
    Then (source Lenta.ru) Previous information on the extension of the regime of self-isolation in Moscow until April 14th is incorrect. With such a refutation made operational headquarters to control and monitor the spread of coronavirus in the capital in your Telegram channel.
    As the headquarters explained, at the moment, the term of the self-isolation regime is determined by the decree of Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to which the week of March 30 to April 5 was declared non-working.)

    Also, amendments to the Code of Administrative Offenses on fines for the dissemination of inaccurate information on life-threatening circumstances, including epidemics, to the media or the Internet have been prepared. It is proposed to punish a fine of 1,5 to 3 million rubles for the distribution of fakes.

    Well, it’s clear that when little-known people write something on this topic, for example Leshiy, he can easily be blamed for spreading fakes and escalating panic. But when a lady, who is close and takes advantage of the location of a great man, writes on this subject:

    Margarita simonyan
    yesterday at 4:50 pm
    Actions
    Dear rich people!
    The epidemic has not yet begun but in city hospitals are already ending годовые запасы средств дезинфекции, одноразовых халатов, масок, перчаток, защитных костюмов 'как у Путина' (там, где такие вообще были).
    Find it all now difficult, but possible. Mostly from resellers, for a lot of money.
    If you haven’t done it yet, buy it all and send — роддому, где вы родились (его, скорее всего, тоже 'нагрузят' коронавирусом), hospitals in your hometowns, generally just hospitals in a row.

    That is no longer a panic or a fake, but as one of the commentators wrote:

    And that might be a subtle hint. the fact that there may be thick wallets will help the country, which of course can do without them, but in conditions of sanctions, help will not hurt.


    PS And I, watching on the deck of the galley, all this chaos happening - I laugh. I laugh because I see how they try this

    give out for the wisdom of the state. control, but one thing turns out, like in a comedy
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 31 March 2020 14: 01 New
      +6
      Interestingly, the term itself - isolation, has already been included in the legislation, how to understand and interpret it

      The term is really interesting .. it says that the state has nothing to do with it .. citizens all by themselves ...
      subjected themselves to self-isolation ... thereby the state relieves itself of responsibility .. it is as if self-isolated from the people ..
      but immediately introduces fines for violations of self-isolation .. wassat I believe that the measure is necessary and already somewhat belated and 5 days is clearly not enough .. but why not call the emergency ... and nothing needs to be invented ..
      1. unaha
        unaha 31 March 2020 15: 43 New
        +7
        An emergency is a bad option. It is introduced by presidential decree and, accordingly, will have to accept responsibility for the consequences. And since he had nothing to do with it ... Everyone is isolated on the regional level.
  • Romey
    Romey 31 March 2020 13: 02 New
    +7
    Honestly, I do not understand the meaning of what is happening. If everything is serious, then it is necessary to declare an emergency mode and put into operation all the measures envisaged for this case in accordance with the full program. If not, then you shouldn’t even bother. And so the result is a multi-pass economy paragraph. In general, it seems that all these dances with tambourines around the epidemic are designed to identify the culprit in the new great depression. Coronovirus is an ideal candidate.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 31 March 2020 19: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: romey
      And so as a result of a multi-step economy paragraph

      Can one distract from the other?
      1. Romey
        Romey 31 March 2020 19: 44 New
        +1
        And easily. And not only with us. We have this oil. Others have their own reasons to designate the virus as a scapegoat.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 31 March 2020 19: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: romey
          designate a scapegoat virus.

          It's just that everything and everyone is so mired in lies and crises that you won’t be surprised at anything ..
      2. Nehist
        Nehist 31 March 2020 22: 30 New
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        I generally seditious thought arose! Like, in connection with the epidemic, postpone the vote. But since the epidemic continues and time is running out, to hell with a vote !!! Amendments to the constitution to accept! (Moreover, the parliament approved, the sof fede approved, the constitutional court recognized. What for bother the electorate?)
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey April 1 2020 05: 27 New
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          Quote: Nehist
          I generally seditious thought arose! Like, in connection with the epidemic, postpone the vote.

          Вы считаете ,что "голосование" как то повлияет на "Поправки в конституцию принять! "?
          1. Nehist
            Nehist April 1 2020 18: 31 New
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            Neither will it affect. It’s just a wonderful opportunity to not bother with it at all
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey April 2 2020 05: 19 New
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              Quote: Nehist
              Neither will it affect. It’s just a wonderful opportunity to not bother with it at all

              Да уж лучше "что бы",а то некоторые всё ещё живут в иллюзиях...А так поменьше фантазий останется ..
  • askort154
    askort154 31 March 2020 13: 02 New
    +8
    Doctors say. In order not to get sick - before going to bed, you need to drink 100 grams of vodka.
    Yesterday I had to go to bed FIVE TIMES! crying
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 March 2020 15: 47 New
      -1
      Someone and 1000 grams will not be enough at bedtime.
    2. Rzzz
      Rzzz 31 March 2020 17: 45 New
      +1
      In theory, vodka, on the contrary, should lead to a more severe course of the disease. Well, it depresses the whole body, including the immune system.
    3. Nehist
      Nehist 31 March 2020 22: 31 New
      0
      And if insomnia?
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 31 March 2020 13: 42 New
    +2
    Now, when 500 per day has increased, and the total number has reached 2500, the number of infected people will double every three days. This law had to be adopted yesterday!

    God bless you all!
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 31 March 2020 18: 14 New
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      Or here:
      https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 31 March 2020 18: 54 New
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        Quote: Alex Justice
        https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw

        There is still data on yesterday. The day passed, but nothing has changed. hi
  • Hey
    Hey 31 March 2020 14: 44 New
    +6
    Name at least one decree with which quarantine is introduced somewhere.
    The events held throughout Russia do not have a clear legal justification and can be interpreted as you like.
    Even Putin in his speech only asked for self-isolation.
    That's when the government officially enforces quarantine then we can talk about the law being adopted.
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  • CYM
    CYM 31 March 2020 15: 06 New
    +3
    “The rigor of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-bindingness of their implementation” Saltykov-Shchedrin.
    Especially for the rich and famous. Since March 30.03, in Moscow, complete self-isolation, and the hard workers as they moved the curbs, continue. I strongly doubt that anyone from this Sobyaninsky feeder will be fined, let alone imprisoned.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 31 March 2020 15: 06 New
    +1
    We decided to cut the dough, of course, at someone else's expense.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 March 2020 15: 49 New
      -2
      Well, due to idiots, the loot cannot be cut down.
  • Rzzz
    Rzzz 31 March 2020 15: 28 New
    +3
    Интересная коллизия происходит. Режима ЧС, карантина до сих пор не объявлено. Что такое какой-то мутный "режим самоизоляции" нигде не прописано. Ответственность какую-то вводят. За что конкретно - не пишут.
    Just officially declared quarantine or emergency is force majeure, this is an excuse not to fulfill all commercial contracts. For example, you can return a loan to the bank at the wrong time.
    Our management will under no circumstances introduce an emergency.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 March 2020 15: 52 New
      +1
      A quarantine has been announced for those who have found a coronovirus and the responsibility is introduced for them and for those who come from abroad - putting it on check with registration upon arrival.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 31 March 2020 18: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        A quarantine has been announced for those who have found a coronovirus and the responsibility is introduced just for them and for those who come from abroad

        And why then are Moscow pensioners subjected to repression? Everyone as one from abroad returned?
  • Mentat
    Mentat 31 March 2020 16: 18 New
    -6
    And again mr * zota in the comments ...
    1. Romey
      Romey 31 March 2020 16: 40 New
      +2
      That again the bad smerds of good boyars are scolded and not treated with understanding? Here is a byad so byad ... at just the beginning.
  • Mentat
    Mentat 31 March 2020 17: 41 New
    -7
    Quote: romey
    That again the bad smerds of good boyars are scolded and not treated with understanding? Here is a byad so byad ... at just the beginning.

    You are there a homegrown revolutionary look, do not get over the strain.
    “Smerdy” - this is in your brochures with which you scribble, people live in Russia.

    Irresponsible punishment is necessary and it will be so. Though you should get word from abroad about smerds, boyars and what else is clever for your superior propaganda * ndons.
    1. Romey
      Romey 31 March 2020 18: 21 New
      +1
      Well, let's talk about the punishment ... I believe that most have already encountered a lack of masks and disinfectants. In principle, for those who have a head and hands, this is not scary. My wife sewed over the evening for everyone a copy of the gauze bandage on the recipes of the good old Soviet textbook GO for grade 2, and ordinary whiteness will work as a disinfectant. But here, over the days of a mental connection with the State Department, bad memories crept in. The fact is that at the beginning of January, making repairs and suffering a lot from putty dust, I decided to purchase several masks. In vain, of course, because they were not in the pharmacies of the district center. Then I did not attach any importance to this because I immediately bought a wonderful respirator in the construction shop. And then the following information came from the State Department for days that this product could very well have been bought in bulk by certain, probably patriotic businessmen. No, of course I am far from thinking that these socially responsible businessmen will speculate with them, but to suck this stale goods under the guise of the motherland, of course at market prices, will certainly be the most patriotic act. Well, if citizens are also highly spiritual, they can even help the afflicted Italy or even the United States. However, I already slander this, but as an old agent I get paid for this with shekels, because only the state has monopoly on spirituality. So, I would like to ask the patriot Putin: should these actions be punished as speculation or encouraged as a patriotic act?
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  • Million
    Million 31 March 2020 17: 57 New
    +2
    Interestingly, will Leshchenko be fined? Or is he from the category of untouchables?
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 31 March 2020 18: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: Million
      Interestingly, will Leshchenko be fined? Or is he from the category of untouchables?

      Ask Lopatov - he owns secret knowledge.
  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 31 March 2020 19: 16 New
    +2
    And what rabano pikanto are they still free? There are substantially more than fifty of them!
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 31 March 2020 20: 30 New
    0
    The law is correct and with a view to the future. Hundreds of viruses, and not only natural, but also fighting ...
  • yasvet
    yasvet 31 March 2020 22: 41 New
    0
    even the founder self-insulated with us and seized the Atlanteans with Samson, and the law is needed, timely.


  • Radikal
    Radikal April 1 2020 02: 23 New
    -2
    Quote: agMakc
    Did she violate quarantine?

    Google to help you - https://www.mk.ru/politics/2020/03/29/uletevshaya-vo-vetnam-mer-tambova-poluchila-400-000-premii.html
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 1 2020 03: 32 New
    -1
    A psychosis of a universal scale - it is suspicious that power was very abruptly involved in this matter. Wait for the people another meanness because they just do nothing.