In Ukraine, proposed to create a naval base of NATO in Mariupol

In Ukraine, it was proposed to create a NATO military base in the country. The petition with the corresponding proposal is available on the website of the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky.

As follows from the petition, the Ukrainian president is invited to resolve the issue of creating a NATO naval base and deploy it in Mariupol. The author of the petition calls "the incorrect behavior of the aggressor country - Russia" the basis for placing such a base.

I recommend creating a naval base for permanent deployment fleet NATO Alliance in Mariupol. In connection with the constant threat and incorrect behavior of the aggressor country of Russia

- states the author, a certain Makara Alexander Georgievich.

Russia drew attention to this proposal, saying that the deployment of NATO ships in the Sea of ​​Azov is unrealistic and does not depend on Ukraine’s sole decision on this. According to the Russian-Ukrainian agreements, the Sea of ​​Azov is the inland sea of ​​two countries.

According to State Duma deputy Andrei Kozenko, the proposal to deploy a NATO naval base in the Sea of ​​Azov should not be taken seriously, as these are consequences of the manifestation of the nationalism epidemic that this country is exposed to besides coronavirus.

Kozenko noted that NATO now and further will no longer be in Ukraine because of disagreements in the ideology of the alliance and the need to stop its financing in times of crisis.

Comments

[Dmitry Potapov]

Already do not know where to lick!

[Andrei Gurov]

They don’t know in what position to surrender.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

There is no money, but I want to.

[Andrei Gurov]

Those who offer money have it, and those who want to eat they will not appear.

[mitroha]

I read the first three comments, and just in case, I looked again at what the article was about. And not, it seemed

[Thrall]

I’ll go create a petition to create a NATO base on the moon

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Lunatics will not be delighted.

[Vodrak]

Im for what ??

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

I also don’t understand why lunatics need such neighbors?

[Andrei Gurov]

Well, why again at our borders?

[Grits]

Quote: Andrei Gurov

Well, why again at our borders?

And then, that if a country at one time pissed off to clean up evil spirits to the very west, then, accordingly, it gets NATO bases at its borders.

[Prisoner]

Only 30% payment in advance. And then these scammers can throw.

[Machito]

Great laugh
If only by rail the boats will be brought up. Karakurts directly from Kerch can control the entire NATO base in Mariupol. It is necessary to adopt a law in order to inspect all ships before passage under the Crimean Bridge (such as protection against terrorists). Or even prohibit the passage of warships of other countries under the bridge (suddenly something accidentally smells there).

[Artunis]

No foreign ship, much less a military one, has the right to enter the territory without permission. water of the Russian Federation. And the passage under the bridge is the terr.water. Populism is everything. Another deflection in the lower back in front of the master!

[Ascetic]

Quote: Bearded

Karakurt directly from Kerch can control the entire NATO base in Mariupol

At present, 6 armies with reconstituted divisions have been created, are being deployed in the NE of Russia, and it is planned to have reconstructed divisions: 2 in the Western Military District (ZVO, 1st Guards Tank and 20th Guards Combined Arms (1st TA and 20th OA) ), 2 in the Southern Military District (SEO, 8th and 58th OA) and one each in the Central Military District and the Eastern Military District (41st OA and 5th OA, respectively).
These armies are designed to solve offensive and defensive tasks in the main areas and use as a reserve. Such an army generally has, or will have, 1-3 combined arms divisions (there may also still be 1-3 combined arms brigades). The army may still include army brigades (missile (RBR), artillery (Abr), anti-aircraft missile (ZRbr), separate reconnaissance (ORBR), control (br U), logistics (br MTO)) and army regiments a set (engineering and engineering (ISP) and radiation, chemical, biological protection (p RHBZ)), as well as other parts. Some armies are in the process of formation and do not yet have the usual number of divisions, as well as some brigades and regiments of the army set.

New 1st Guards. TA (management in the village of Bakovka, Odintsovo, Moscow Region) was recreated on November 13, 2014 in connection with the relocation of the administration of the 20th Guards OA to the border with Ukraine). The creation of the army ensured the management of formations deployed near Moscow.

The army is intended to cover Moscow and the Moscow region. and ensuring their internal security. It is also a strategic strike reserve of the NE and can be used to strengthen the northwestern, western, and southwestern directions of the ZVO.

The first to enter the 1st TA were the 4th Guards. tank and 2nd guards. motorized rifle divisions (4th TD and 2nd MSD), previously included in the 20th OA. Also in the army is the 6th division. tank and 27 det. motorized rifle brigades (6th Brigade in Mulino and 27th Motorized Rifle Brigade in Mosrentgen, the latter according to other sources - of district subordination), 112th Brb (Shuya, Ivanovo Region), 288 Abr (Mulino village, Nizhny Novgorod Region), 49th ZRbr (settlement Krasny Bor, Smolensk region), 96th ORBr (Nizhny Novgorod, Sormovo), 60th Obr U (settlement Selyatino and Bakovka), 69th Obr MTO (Dzerzhinsk, Nizhny Novgorod region, more one is being formed), the 20th p RHBZ (Nizhny Novgorod, PGT Tsentralny and ISP (the latter is being formed in 2018)).

20th Guards OA (control in Voronezh, redeployed in 2015) is intended to cover Russia from the western (Ukrainian) direction.

The army includes the 3rd and 144th guards. MSD, 1 Guards Otbr (Boguchar, not yet formed), 448th RBR (Kursk), 236th Abr (Kolomna), 53rd ZRbr (Kursk), 9th Obr U (Voronezh), Obr MTO (Voronezh).

The new 8th OA (management in Novocherkassk, formed from the summer of 2017) is intended to cover Russia from the south-west (Ukrainian) direction.

The army so far includes the 150th MSD, the 20th guards. OMSbr (Volgograd) and ZRbr. It was reported plans for the formation in the army of missile, artillery and detachment. reconnaissance brigades, as well as EW and MTO brigades. Experts suggest that the army consists of the 1st and 2nd army corps of the DPR and LPR; it is also possible that the 20th Guards. The motorized brigade will later be deployed to the division.

The 58th OA (control in Vladikavkaz) is intended to cover the North Caucasus region of Russia and ensure internal security in it (including in Chechnya and Dagestan). It can be used to strengthen the southwestern, southern, and southeastern directions of the SEE.

The army includes the 42nd Guards. MSD, 19th and 136th Motorized Rifle Brigades (Sputnik, Vladikavkaz and Buinaksk, Dagestan, from the end of 2018 it is planned to begin deploying these brigades in the 19th and 136th MSD), The 12th RBR is also included in the army ( Mozdok, North Ossetia), 291st Abr (station Troitskaya, Ingushetia), 67th ZBbr (Vladikavkaz), 100th ORBr (Mozdok-7), 34th Obr U (Vladikavkaz), 78th Obr MTO (Budyonnovsk, Stavropol Territory), 40th RHBZ (st. Troitskaya, Ingushetia), 31st ISP (Prokhladny, Kabardino-Balkaria), 14th det. EW (Vladikavkaz). It was reported that the 58th Army also included the 4th military base (WB, South Ossetia, Tskhinvali and the village of Java, reinforced by the Special Forces Brigade).

The 41st OA (control in Novosibirsk) is intended to cover the central region of Russia and its CSTO allies (Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan) from the southern (Afghan) direction. It is also a strategic reserve of NEs and can be used to strengthen ZVO, YuVO and VVO.

The army includes the 90th guards. TD, 35th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Aleisk), 74th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Yurga) and 41th Motorized Rifle Brigade (55th ?, Kyzyl). The army also includes the 119th RBR (p. Elansky), the 120th Abr (Yurga), the 61st ZRbr (Biysk), the 35th Obr U (p. Kochenevo), the 106th Obr MTO (Yurga), The 10th p RKhBZ (village Topchikha), the 75th communications center (Kalinovka). It was reported that the 41st army also included the 201st WB (Tajikistan, Dushanbe, reinforced mechanized brigade).

The 5th OA (control in Ussuriysk) is intended to cover the Far Eastern region of Russia from the southeast (Chinese) and eastern (Japanese) directions.

The army includes the 59th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Primorsky Territory, the village of Sergeevka, on its base from the end of 2018, the 127th Motorized Rifle Brigade will be formed), the 70th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Primorsky Territory, the village of Barabash), the 57th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Khabarovsk Territory, Bikin) and the 60th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Primorsky Territory, p. Kamen-Rybolov and p. Monastyrische). The army also includes the 20th Rbr (Primorsky Territory, Spassk-Dalniy), the 305th Abr (Ussuriysk), the 8th ZRbr (Ussuriysk), the 80th Obr U (Ussuriysk), the 101st Obr MTO (Ussuriysk ), 25th p RHBZ (Sergeevka), 79th communication center (Ussuriysk) [2-6].

RECREATED DIVISIONS. In 2013-2018, 7 divisions were partially recreated in the NE: 4 in the Western Military District (4th TD, 2nd, 3rd and 144th MSD), 2 in the South-Eastern Military District (42nd and 150th MSD) and one in the Central Military District (90th TD). And from the end of 2018, the formation of three more MSDs will begin (the 19th and 136th in the SEE and 127th in the BBO).

Also, it was planned to form 2 divisions in the coastal forces of the Navy (the 99th in the Pacific Fleet, and one more in the Northern Fleet), and the 104th Airborne Assault Division in the Airborne Forces (but a review of these plans is not the topic of this article).

The first in May 2013 in the NE began the reconstruction of the 4th Guards. TD and 2nd Guards. MSD. At the beginning of 2016, these divisions entered the 1st Guards. THAT ZVO.

4th guards Kantemirovskaya TD was formed in Naro-Fominsk on the basis of the 4th Otbr. It initially included 4 regiments (12th and 13th tank (Tp), 275th self-propelled artillery (SAp), 538th anti-aircraft missile (ZRp)) and five detachments. B-nov (137th reconnaissance (RB), 413rd communications (BS, 330th engineer-sapper (ISB), 1088th material support (BMO), 165th medical (MB)). At the end of 2016 The 423rd Motorized Rifle Regiment (MSp) and 4 Separate Companies (UAVs, EW, RCBZs and evacuation units) were formed, and the 14th Tp was still to be formed.

Now, in connection with the receipt of the second Dr. MLRS ("Hurricane"), the Sap has been renamed the SARP (self-propelled artillery and missile regiments).

2nd Guards The Taman MSD was formed in Kalininets on the basis of the 5th Motorized Rifle Brigade. It initially included 4 regiments (1st and 15th MSp, 147th SAP, 1117th ZRp), 1174th detachment. anti-tank (OPT) dn and five div. B-new (136th RB, 47th BS, 211st ISB, 1063rd BMO, 370th MB). At the end of 2016, the 1st TP and 4 div. companies (UAV, REB, RCBZ and evacuation.). The formation of the 283rd MSp remains to be formed.

144th Guards The MSD (headquarters in Smolensk) began to be formed in June 2016 on the basis of the 28th Motorized Rifle Brigade. 2 regiments have already been formed (the 488th MPS in Klintsy and the 856th MAP in Pochep, both in the Bryansk region), as well as 3 detachments. B-on (148th RB, 686th BS, 295th ISB), In 2017, the formation of 3 more regiments (182nd MSP in the village of Zaimishche, Bryansk Region, 228th TP in Yelnya Smolenskaya region., 1259th ZRp), 2 div. B-nov (1032th BMO and 150th MB), as well as the 1281st OPT of Dr. It remains to be formed in Yelnya 254th MSP and 3 div. companies (UAVs, EWs and RCBZs).

The 3rd MSD (headquarters in Belgorod) began to be formed in December 2016 on the basis of the 9th and 23rd Motorized Rifle Brigades. Five regiments have already been formed (5nd MSP in Boguchar, Voronezh Region, 252nd MSP and 752th TP, both in Valuyki and Soloti, 237th SARP in Boguchar and 99rd ZRp), as well as 1143 . B-nov (5th RB, 84nd BS, 692th ISB, 337th BMO and 911st MB), The 231th MSP, the 245th OPT of the 159rd and 3rd Departments are still to be formed. companies (UAVs, EWs and RCBZs).

42nd Guards The MSD (headquarters in Grozny, according to other sources - in Khankala) began to be formed in 2016 on the basis of the 8th, 17th and 18th Motorized Rifle Brigades. 5 regiments have already been formed (70th, 71st, 291st MSp in Shali, Kalinovskaya, and Borzoi, respectively, 50th CPA in Shali and 1203rd ZRp), as well as 7 div. B-nov (417th RB, 763rd electronic warfare, 478th BS, 539th ISB, 474th BMO, 524th repair and restoration (RBV) and 106th MB), It remains to be formed tank battalion (Tb).

The 150th MSD (headquarters in Persianovsky, according to other sources - in Novocherkassk, p. Kadamovsky) began to form in December 2016 on the basis of the 33rd Motorized Rifle Brigade. 3 regiments have already been formed (102nd MSP and 68th TP, both in Novocherkassk, p. Persianovsky, 933th ZRp in Rostov Region Millerovo), as well as 3 detachments. B-on (174th RB, 258th BS and 152nd BMO). Since the fall of 2017, 2 regiments (103rd MPS and 381st SARP) began to unfold in the settlements of Kadamovsky and Kuzminki, and from 2018 in the village of Kuzminki - the 163rd TP and 2 divisions. B-on (ISB, and the 195th MB). It is also necessary to form an OPT for Dr. and 6 Dep. mouth (UAV, REB, RHBZ, repair, evacuation and curfew).

90th Guards The TD (headquarters in Chebarkul, Chelyabinsk region) began to be formed in December 2016 at the base of the 7th Brigade and 32nd Motorized Rifle Brigades. It initially included 3 regiments (the 239th military unit in Chebarkul, the 228th military unit in Yekaterinburg, the 400th unit in Karabash in the Chelyabinsk region) and 5 detachments. B-new (30th RB, 33rd BS, 351st ISB, 1122nd BMO, 26th MB). It remains to form 3 regiments (6th and 80th TP, ZRp, all in Chebarkul) and 3 detachments. companies (UAVs, EW, RCBZ) [2-5].

[Oleg Zorin]

Less for verbosity.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Quote: Oleg Zorin

Less for verbosity.

Chatterbox is a good find for a spy.

[Fantazer911]

Keep

[Sgan]

The funny thing is that NATO doesn’t need a base in the Black Sea, because this puddle has no strategic importance. Therefore, the horror stories are very funny that without Krymnash, evil Americans would certainly create their base in Crimea. They do not need it either in the Crimea, or in Mariupol, nowhere on the Black Sea

[Thunderbolt]

If such a desire is voiced, then the US Navy really wants to place it at its side /// tf. grab the enemy by the buckle to close combat ... /// your unit. It may consist of a radar station, a helipad service and a Herkulov. plus a duty officer /// as in Klaipeda /// a special forces department of the Navy. They are needed there to carry out possible splashdowns of NATO pilots. Such a fire brigade, but the minds in the Pentagon can throw another job for this, in general, an effective machine. The US Navy tried to keep the Soviet Union as far away from its borders as possible, not farther west than Germany-Denmark. The Black Sea area was bypassed by satellite and aerial reconnaissance. Even the active operations of the NATO fleets of the USSR were resolutely suppressed. This was the policy, for the sake of their own safety ...

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Russia will declare recognition of the subjects of the LPR, DPR and will send troops to clean up the territories to the end of the borders of the new Ukraine. Mariupol will become free from the power of the Maidan races.

[primala]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

Russia will declare recognition of the subjects of the LPR, DPR and will send troops to clean up the territories to the end of the borders of the new Ukraine. Mariupol will become free from the power of the Maidan races.

It has long been recognized. What are they waiting for !? until the clash with the Yankees really happens !?
I do not understand our policy.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Apparently, the Yankees still have leverage over the impact, but if this continues, our patience may end and the situation will get out of their control.

[primala]

THEY already rule Ukraine. Turkey was admitted to Syria. The result is observed ...
One has only to allow "stake out", and that's it !!! Then do not expel ...
Israel asked to stand with the Palestinians. Yeah ... just watching ...

[Aerodrome]

In Ukraine, proposed to create a naval base of NATO in Mariupol

[Tuzik]

Awesome answer!

[mitroha]

The answer is good, but P.Indos hardly watched Mask shows.
And in the meantime, such proposals must be answered as hard as possible. So harshly, by economic, political methods, it does not matter that even the non-brothers' thoughts no longer arise. Because ALL actions begin with probing the soil. And if we "eat" it, it will only get worse.

[Tuzik]

Quote: Mitroha

The answer is good, but

The airfield, without any words, in one two second fragment, conveyed the emotional state of many people to this news!

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

The consent of the NATO bloc to the proposal to deploy such a base in Mariupol will be a provocation, which will be the last straw and lead to a direct clash.

[Thunderbolt]

, There are levers, unfortunately ... In the Georgian war, the army began to act automatically. There was a decision from the headquarters of the Southern District after the call of the MS curator. He swearingly asked why his sons were put under artillery. They listened to him, of course. And then the columns went. Without a precedent, an attack or threat of attack on the territory or face of the Russian Federation does not even blur the mosquito. That is, we need a case, but in Ukraine it is much more complicated. Very difficult topic

[Lelek]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

Russia will announce the recognition of the subjects of the LPR, DPR ...

Here the other day "hatched" with vangovaniyami famous for his sketches on the fan Portnikov. But, oddly enough, in some ways he is right:

[dvina71]

Quote: Thunderbolt

o means the U.S. Navy really wants to place it side by side //

Well, absolutely it’s not necessary to consider them as idiots .. What will they go to Azov on? Remind the fairway depth? Yes, and under the bridge they need to go ..

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Andrei Gurov

They don’t know in what position to surrender.

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

There is no money, but I want to.

Guys - are you seriously discussing the whole of Ukraine on the petition of a certain Makar Alexander Georgievich? Yes, there are a considerable number of "friendly" Russia eccentrics, but why discuss every bunch of them?

[DMB_95]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Guys - are you seriously discussing the whole of Ukraine on the petition of a certain Makar Alexander Georgievich? Yes, there are a considerable number of "friendly" Russia eccentrics, but why discuss every bunch of them?

Maybe a bunch, or maybe the States are monitoring our possible reaction to their possible real actions in this direction.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: DMB_95

Maybe a bunch, or maybe the States are monitoring our possible reaction

Well, I don’t know, of course there is some kind of probability, but in this case, it’s more like a "bunch". But that's not what I mean. It’s just silly to judge public policy by a single petition. For comparison, you can see the petitions to Putin - along with sensible things, there is a lot of all sorts of nonsense.

[DMB_95]

And the special services do not make final conclusions on the "single petition". They collect information on a topic of interest to them from various sources. But in this case it is most likely really just a "bunch".

[den3080]

Quote: Andrei Gurov

They don’t know in what position to surrender.

Yes.
all conceivable and inconceivable holes have already been provided so that they are raped :)
but it doesn’t work out ...

[4ekist]

Crustacean probably.

[Thrifty]

When Ukraine tries to join NATO, Russia is obliged to annul all international treaties with Ukraine, and annex all Russian lands!

[Lelek]

Quote: Thrifty

When Ukraine tries to join NATO, Russia is obliged to annul all international treaties with Ukraine, and annex all Russian lands!

In / on the Ruin a "Chinese" variant of behavior is being considered (remember about the monkey on the rock and the tiger with the crocodile below?). So here are some of the cunning Svidomites who suggest this strategy for the Ruins:

As regards your proposal, there are no references to lands granted by the Soviet authorities to Ukraine in any INTERNATIONAL treaties. These acts were an internal affair of the USSR.

[Baloo]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Already do not know where to lick!

They want money for a cut.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

No longer know where to sleep.

[Aleksandr1971]

The last paragraph of Article 17 of the Constitution of Ukraine prohibits the creation on the territory of Ukraine of foreign military bases and the deployment of foreign troops

[Aleksandr1971]

In order to place the US base there, it is necessary to amend the Constitution of Ukraine. This is relatively easy to do. But thereby, the leadership of Ukraine will once again emphasize its lack of independence and failure.

In response to this, Russia should intensify clashes and sabotage in the Donbass and by moving the clash line to the east.

It is unlikely that this will lead to increased sanctions on Russia in an epidemic. But we must also forget about lifting sanctions, because no matter what Russia makes to the West, sanctions will not be lifted.

And of course, it is necessary to restore the intelligence center in Lourdes in Cuba. The Kibinans will do this because they already understood that the departure of R. Castro from the presidency did not lead and will not lead to the lifting of sanctions from Cuba, because the United States clearly wants a complete change in the political regime in Cuba.

[Timon2155]

Here and the Black Sea-puddle. In general, Azov’s plan is a so-so venture. Spreading this base will be too easy. There will be no base there, but NATO is not such fools as Ukrainians. In which case ours will sink the barge under the arch of the bridge and that's it, the base has risen.

[knn54]

a certain Makara Alexander Georgievich.
"Alternative giftedness," however.

[gurzuf]

And that base is just ships? I do not agree with you. Put some sort of electronic warfare and it will be a big hemorrhoid.

[Mavrikiy]

In Ukraine, it was proposed to create a NATO military base in the country.

Think narrowly. Offer to create a NATO military base on Mars. Or in the Crimea, it's yours Donetsk is also well-suited, and then after deploying a NATO base, fire at it as you can.

[Same lech]

They talk about training officers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ... on the example of Georgia, a bad example.
But ... the Americans are getting closer and closer to our borders ... it's time for them to do some sort of trouble ... to bring to life.

[ML-334]

Byaka is Eunu to give the decommissioned but still sound media for "temporary use".

[Same lech]

Well, that’s what he’s bullying in the mood towards the Sea of ​​Japan ... presumably ... he gets satisfaction.

[CAT BAIYUN]

They made a decision ..... Well, well ... And then what? Even if they create it, the General Staff of the Russian Federation will mark the flag with understandable consequences on the map. Does Ukraine need it? Do Ukrainians need it? And do the NATO people need it? Well, they’re not full there ... Or is it still all bad with a thinker?
In truth: the Lord wants to punish - will deprive the mind.

[Same lech]

Does Ukraine need it?

As I understand it, it is very necessary ... against the background of the Russian language ban, anything can be expected from Ukraine.

[Masha]

Though a scarecrow, even a carcass ...

[Aviator_]

Interestingly, has compulsory English been introduced in Ukropia, or is everything still ahead? And all documents in the sahib language should be.

[Kronos]

It doesn’t seem like the NATO were afraid of these red flags

[gurzuf]

We just don’t put them to them, but we are seriously concerned.

[Tuzik]

Quote: KOT BYUN

... Do NATOers need it? well, not complete sit there ...

Well, would you refuse to have a base, for example, in Honduras?

[Lelek]

Quote: KOT BYUN

Does Ukraine need it?

Ukraine, or rather the current Kiev rulership - yes, to annoy Russia. After all, the present Ruin is without it, like a beggar on the porch. The soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the front end - bad weather, they have other fun. Citizens and villagers - this fuss "on-drum", they would have at least some freebie (even in money, even in kind).

[CAT BAIYUN]

the current Ruin without it, like a beggar on the porch.

I agree.
But why "HOW"? So it is - no money, no medicine, no army, no people, no brains.
The porch and unclear prospects remained.
And as regards non-combat losses - even though I am a relative humanist and always regret the gene pool, but in this case ...: yes, at least let everyone solve each other there.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: KOT BYUN

But why "HOW"? So it is - no money, no medicine, no army, no people, no brains.
The porch and unclear prospects remained.

...
"choose who you want to be deceived ?!" - look there - https://youtu.be/Fu6kqH4mvMk ... from about 12:00 min, look a little more closely ...
when will you digest everything ?! ... check your categorical thoughts ?! maybe they were sent ?!

[Gnefredov]

In Mariupol ??! Aren't you afraid that the NATO troughs of the superstructure under the bridge will shave? Or wait in Azov for six-sixth longboats?
The provocateurs are bad. As I understand it, someone’s Crimean bridge is worse than a pain in the ass.

[volodimer]

I wonder if all this happens ... NATO ships will ask for wiring when passing under the bridge? Or there is no "Crimean Ukrainian" bridge ... and they, like "UK Fleet", will break through on their own ..
In the first case, with a request for passage, this is recognition of Crimea by Russian territory.
And the second ... well, there will be no such thing.

[helmi8]

declares the author, a certain Makara Alexander Georgievich

Nenka is rich in "Napoleons" ...

[Pavel57]

Noble provocateurs.

[Valery Valery]

Pure prostitution!

[Tuzik]

The trick is that if Ukraine escapes under the wing of Russia, it will remain a prostitute, only according to the rest of the world.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Tuzik

The trick is that if Ukraine escapes under the wing of Russia, it will remain a prostitute, only according to the rest of the world.

... - https://youtu.be/Fu6kqH4mvMk , from about 15:50 you may like it ....

[Andobor]

Then, in response to Ukrainian provocations, the militias will capture Mariupol,
But does NATO need it? - if it were necessary, they would have been created long ago, - and vice versa.
- What kind of real policy is she - and that’s all for the TV.

[primala]

Then, in response to Ukrainian provocations, the militia will capture Mariupol
===============
Mariupol - Donetsk region It is not clear ... why is still not part of the DNI.
In vain, ours did not immediately do what had to be done. NATO members, without agreement, have long walked all over Ukraine.

[Aviator_]

Mariupol - Donetsk region It is not clear ... why is still not part of the DNI.

All clear. Without the Mariupol port, the end of Ahmetka’s business is that it’s no longer possible to export metallurgical products. Therefore, Mariupol and passed in 2014. Only business - nothing personal.

[primala]

Quote: Aviator_

Mariupol - Donetsk region It is not clear ... why is still not part of the DNI.

All clear. Without the Mariupol port, the end of Ahmetka’s business is that it’s no longer possible to export metallurgical products. Therefore, Mariupol and passed in 2014. Only business - nothing personal.

It was necessary to drive him right there. Even today he "directs" the Yenaki metallurgical plant.
Again, the question: WHY allow ???

[Aviator_]

And what is our system now? - capitalist. The raven will not peck out the crow.

[primala]

Quote: Aviator_

And what is our system now? - capitalist. The raven will not peck out the crow.

He "does not unfasten" ANYTHING DNR. The question is different - he was "allowed" to pay the workers YET. And so that it was less than our costs. (for the content).
Although ... the factory has long been established breathing.

[Aviator_]

He "does not unfasten" ANYTHING DNR.

Sits on two chairs - afraid of the arrival of the Sumerians. As experience shows, this will not last long.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: primaala

Quote: Aviator_
Mariupol - Donetsk region It is not clear ... why is still not part of the DNI.

All clear. Without the Mariupol port, the end of Ahmetka’s business is that it’s no longer possible to export metallurgical products. Therefore, Mariupol and passed in 2014. Only business - nothing personal.

It was necessary to drive him right there. Even today he "directs" the Yenaki metallurgical plant.
Again, the question: WHY allow ???

- "because in reality, everything is not as it really is!" (a quote from the movie "The Concept", the links are there above if you want ...

[Incompetent]

They want to kiss Russia in any way, but it turns out only to become a crustacean themselves ... what is in front of the Russian Federation what is the EU, what kind of state .. one should stop the miserable existence and divide the land between sane neighbors

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Russia needs to be reminded to the people of Ukraine that it is necessary to pay for NATO bases from the budget of Ukraine and that this assistance is not free.

For comparison, South Korea pays almost $ 1 billion a year, and the United States since this year has demanded almost $ 5 billion from them.

[Tuzik]

"In 2018, South Korea was ranked # 1 in the Bloomberg Innovation Index for the fifth time in a row. This index ranks countries on seven criteria, including spending on research and development and the concentration of high-tech state-owned companies in the country."
"The average salary in South Korea is approximately $ 3350 per month or $ 40 per year."

[Mihail2019]

Yes thank you! We all remember about the "showcase" of capitalism in Southeast Asia.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

"The average salary in South Korea is approximately $ 3350 per month or $ 40 per year."

Why are you doing this? What do you think is due to US bases in South Korea there are such salaries? )))

And I thought because South Korea has a developed industry and economy as a whole, it produces almost 10 million cars a year, and besides that, there’s a lot of everything else from ships to modern smartphones !!!

Bulgaria, Greece, the Baltic countries in the EU and NATO, there are also salaries of 3350 cu? No, why?

[Tuzik]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

What are you talking about?

But you remembered South Korea, and I supported the conversation.
Ukraine and Russia should strive for such indicators as I have cited.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

But you remembered South Korea, and I supported the conversation. smile
Ukraine and Russia should strive for such indicators as I have cited. hi

I cited South Korea as an example for understanding the cost for the budget of deploying US bases on its territory.

To discuss the level of development of production and ways to improve it, in my opinion, well, other resources. And then according to your comment you might think that such salaries in South Korea are solely because they placed US bases at their place.

[Tuzik]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

I cited South Korea as an example for understanding the cost for the budget of deploying US bases on its territory.

And I showed you on the example of the same South Korea that these bases did not create any problems for the development of an advanced economy and raising the standard of living.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And I showed you on the example of the same South Korea that these bases did not create any problems for the development of an advanced economy and raising the standard of living.

In your best application, 1-5 billion dollars for South Korea can not be found? But these are only base fees, besides this, the USA also forces them to buy their weapons, which comes at a huge cost and if this is not a problem for developed South Korea, then for countries such as Bulgaria, Poland, the Baltic countries all this translates into huge costs and forces to reduce spending on other areas, which affects the level of development of these countries and social policy.

NATO membership is a voluntary submission to the American "Golden Horde", with regular tribute payments and even receiving a label for a principality in one's own country.

[Paul Siebert]

Soon there will be more naval bases in Rohland than there are ships.

[Sova]

Quote: Andobor

Then, in response to Ukrainian provocations, the militias will capture Mariupol,

It is a pity that in 14-15 years the attack on Mariupol stopped, then there was no talk of this.

[svp67]

a certain Makara Alexander Georgievich.

NATO will send him with his idea to where he still did not drive calves ...

[orionvitt]

Insanity grows stronger. All these pearls from Ukraine remind me of the tantrum of a capricious child who, in epilepsy, screams heart-rendingly, "haachuuu". But adult uncles, this behavior is demonstratively ignored.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Where will the teleportator be set to penetrate the Sea of ​​Azov? Ukrovirus does not kill the body, but the brain disappears.

[K-50]

In Ukraine, proposed to create a naval base of NATO in Mariupol

Someone will let this nature pass through the Kerch Strait!
The sharing agreement does not mean that there may be warships of third countries!

[Ros 56]

And those creatures who are ready to sell for thirty striped silver coins, someone we consider brothers? Yes, at such a rate of betrayal, soon the very word Ukrainian will cause nausea in all normal people. This is how it is necessary not to love your country and your people in order to call the invaders on your own land?

[alavrin]

And hunting you ravings maydanutyh publish and comment? Thought something serious, on an officer. level, and these are the wet dreams of banderlog.

[Imperial Technocrat]

US GDP will fall by 60% no later than a year, and the US will fall apart - with or without a civil war. dill without the support of the owners will follow

[cniza]

I recommend creating a naval base for the permanent deployment of the NATO alliance fleet in Mariupol. In connection with the constant threat and incorrect behavior of the aggressor country of Russia

What to take from a sick person ...

[brasist]

This clown goes deeper and deeper into shit ...

[Alex Nevs]

Shaw waltzman "nailed", no one will disentangle, the clown even more so.

[iouris]

A promising thought, the implementation of the proposal will accelerate the denouement.

[pafegosoff]

What else to sell? How else to sell?

[Chaldon48]

The Sea of ​​Azov is very shallow and is connected with the Black Sea by the shallow and narrow Kerch Strait, which is completely controlled by Russia. Zelensky invites NATO to get into a trap from which it is impossible to get out without loss

[Prisoner]

Not frail gesheft broke with Svidomo with the return of Crimea to Russia. They are still looking for an alternative.

[Alex Nevs]

And someone I express concern.

[Vodrak]

But when will Russia become an aggressor?!?!
Half the world has been waiting for hundreds of years !!!
Already just asking !!!

[Oleg Zorin]

Well, why not offer? Anything can be offered. Some newspapers still publish jokes, and nothing ... they read.

[cherkas.oe]

Well, if piHdosov have a lot of money and consumables in the form of soldiers from naturalized Latinos, then of course it is possible to build a base. And at the "X" hour, "whirlwinds" and "tornadoes" will work along it from the other side, and that's all - cheap and cheerful. Some kind of fake zeliku scribbled a scribble.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

In Ukraine, what is the name? In Cuba .... in America ...... in Australia ......

[Bumblebee_3]

GTYCBJYTH2021 (Andrey)
What do you need to explain the features of the Russian language? Yes, we say so, for example: in the Urals, in the Caucasus, in the Far East, in the Kolyma! And no one, from these areas, does not complex. Unless, of course, your post is not banter.

[Andrei Gurov]

Rada should propose the United States to transfer Fort Knox to Zhmerinka.

[codetalker]

Prepare a place for the plague Theodore Roosevelt?)

[Pastor]

If only litter is stronger. It reminds the Polish version: since we are friends with the strong, then we are significant. Oh well. Six is ​​always six, no matter what gentleman she serves.

[petrol cutter]

What a twist!..
Although "Russia drew attention to this proposal, stating that the deployment of NATO ships in the Sea of ​​Azov is unrealistic and does not depend on the sole decision of Ukraine about this. According to the Russian-Ukrainian agreements, the Sea of ​​Azov is an internal sea of ​​the two countries."
To be honest, in my not enlightened view, the South-East should have been taken then. In '14. All the prerequisites for this were. Everyone was waiting for this. I mean quite sympathetic UA citizens. There were quite a few of them.
For some reason, I was sure that not today, tomorrow Kharkov is OUR! ..
Instead, slurred stomping on the spot ... And chewing snot mixed with coronovirus.
Sanctions soldered even with Kharkov, even without ...

[petrol cutter]

But at least the turbines were b. What for shipbuilding, what for aviators.
And the bridge - you see, is not particularly relevant ... Would.
This money should be invested much more in the development of regions and the purchase of modern equipment.
And the regions would be greatly appreciated.
Yes, what to say ....

[salad]

Choke on your own gastric juice rulers of the junta !!!! Licked as much as the isort climbed out !!!!

[Dzafdet]

Ah, how they hunt the owner’s ass to lick! A flag in your hands and a drum on your neck!

[nikolaj1703]

NATO ships will go to the port of Mariupol exclusively on the bottom and on foot on a burlak traction.

[Bumblebee_3]

nikolaj1703 (Nikolai)
The NATO base is not only about ships. They can place a missile defense system there - "against Iran." Who will forbid them? And besides, there may be not only the American contingent, but also the English, for example. And you never know what can be placed on "this base".

[Mihail2019]

There is a proposal all Ukraine to declare the territory illegally seized from Russia. And recognize all the authorities in Kiev - separatist bandits.
And put an end to this in the Minsk agreements

[nikolaj1703]

I agree. The first separatist was Kravchuk

[Mihail2019]

There were four of them: Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich! With the filing of Gorbachev!
And all, as one - party functionaries!

[petrol cutter]

But what's the point now procrastinate these figures ???
Since then, thousands of tons of water have flowed into the oceans.

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Petrol cutter

But at least the turbines were b. What for shipbuilding, what for aviators.
And the bridge - you see, is not particularly relevant ... Would.
This money should be invested much more in the development of regions and the purchase of modern equipment.
And the regions would be greatly appreciated.
Yes, what to say ....

Who are you teaching now? which country? What are your suggestions, just do not fart? !!!

[lvov_aleksey]

read this article:
http://agitpro.su/zheleznyj-kaput-sravnenie-voennoj-moshhi-rossii-i-nato/
I don’t see with whom to fight, here earlier they were inclining us for a novice, and now everyone in the rag is silent striped satellites !!!

[Alexander Zima]

The pier in Kerch has already been freed ..... so you can put the arrested ships of NATO that violate the border of the Russian Federation .. and in full law ... but they can also by force ... straight from the shore ..

[Shadow041]

It is time to impose a complete embargo on trade with Banderostan and send home all the zarobitans, so that Zelensky and the company have other problems and there is no time to shit Russia !!!

[sanik2020]

First, let the coronavirus survive and then maybe there will be no one to open this base.

[Alexfly]

Each time they will line up in line to stand under the bridge ....

[ZVS]

Once again I am convinced that in Ukraine there are less and less adequate people. It seems that the whole nation is completely crazy with the mind.

[NF68]

The best time to create a database.