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In Ukraine, proposed to create a naval base of NATO in Mariupol

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In Ukraine, proposed to create a naval base of NATO in Mariupol

In Ukraine, it was proposed to create a NATO military base in the country. The petition with the corresponding proposal is available on the website of the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky.


As follows from the petition, the Ukrainian president is invited to resolve the issue of creating a NATO naval base and deploy it in Mariupol. The author of the petition calls "the incorrect behavior of the aggressor country - Russia" the basis for placing such a base.

I recommend creating a naval base for permanent deployment fleet NATO Alliance in Mariupol. In connection with the constant threat and incorrect behavior of the aggressor country of Russia

- states the author, a certain Makara Alexander Georgievich.

Russia drew attention to this proposal, saying that the deployment of NATO ships in the Sea of ​​Azov is unrealistic and does not depend on Ukraine’s sole decision on this. According to the Russian-Ukrainian agreements, the Sea of ​​Azov is the inland sea of ​​two countries.

According to State Duma deputy Andrei Kozenko, the proposal to deploy a NATO naval base in the Sea of ​​Azov should not be taken seriously, as these are consequences of the manifestation of the nationalism epidemic that this country is exposed to besides coronavirus.

Kozenko noted that NATO now and further will no longer be in Ukraine because of disagreements in the ideology of the alliance and the need to stop its financing in times of crisis.
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  1. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 29 March 2020 15: 21 New
    26
    Already do not know where to lick!
    1. Andrei Gurov
      Andrei Gurov 29 March 2020 15: 26 New
      19
      They don’t know in what position to surrender.
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 29 March 2020 15: 32 New
        +6
        There is no money, but I want to.
        1. Andrei Gurov
          Andrei Gurov 29 March 2020 15: 36 New
          +5
          Those who offer money have it, and those who want to eat they will not appear.
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha 29 March 2020 16: 42 New
            +8
            I read the first three comments, and just in case, I looked again at what the article was about. And not, it seemed laughing
        2. Thrall
          Thrall 29 March 2020 15: 37 New
          16
          I’ll go create a petition to create a NATO base on the moon smile
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 29 March 2020 15: 39 New
            +7
            Lunatics will not be delighted.
            1. Vodrak
              Vodrak 29 March 2020 17: 51 New
              +6
              Im for what ??
              1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                Nikolay Ivanov_5 29 March 2020 17: 53 New
                +4
                I also don’t understand why lunatics need such neighbors?
          2. Andrei Gurov
            Andrei Gurov 29 March 2020 15: 50 New
            +6
            Well, why again at our borders?
            1. Grits
              Grits 30 March 2020 11: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: Andrei Gurov
              Well, why again at our borders?

              And then, that if a country at one time pissed off to clean up evil spirits to the very west, then, accordingly, it gets NATO bases at its borders.
          3. Prisoner
            Prisoner 29 March 2020 16: 35 New
            +2
            Only 30% payment in advance. And then these scammers can throw. laughing
        3. Machito
          Machito 29 March 2020 17: 40 New
          0
          Great laugh laughing lol
          If only by rail the boats will be brought up. Karakurts directly from Kerch can control the entire NATO base in Mariupol. It is necessary to adopt a law in order to inspect all ships before passage under the Crimean Bridge (such as protection against terrorists). Or even prohibit the passage of warships of other countries under the bridge (suddenly something accidentally smells there).
          1. Artunis
            Artunis 29 March 2020 18: 08 New
            +7
            No foreign ship, much less a military one, has the right to enter the territory without permission. water of the Russian Federation. And the passage under the bridge is the terr.water. Populism is everything. Another deflection in the lower back in front of the master!
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 29 March 2020 19: 56 New
            -7
            Quote: Bearded
            Karakurt directly from Kerch can control the entire NATO base in Mariupol

            At present, 6 armies with reconstituted divisions have been created, are being deployed in the NE of Russia, and it is planned to have reconstructed divisions: 2 in the Western Military District (ZVO, 1st Guards Tank and 20th Guards Combined Arms (1st TA and 20th OA) ), 2 in the Southern Military District (SEO, 8th and 58th OA) and one each in the Central Military District and the Eastern Military District (41st OA and 5th OA, respectively).
            These armies are designed to solve offensive and defensive tasks in the main areas and use as a reserve. Such an army generally has, or will have, 1-3 combined arms divisions (there may also still be 1-3 combined arms brigades). The army may still include army brigades (missile (RBR), artillery (Abr), anti-aircraft missile (ZRbr), separate reconnaissance (ORBR), control (br U), logistics (br MTO)) and army regiments a set (engineering and engineering (ISP) and radiation, chemical, biological protection (p RHBZ)), as well as other parts. Some armies are in the process of formation and do not yet have the usual number of divisions, as well as some brigades and regiments of the army set.

            New 1st Guards. TA (management in the village of Bakovka, Odintsovo, Moscow Region) was recreated on November 13, 2014 in connection with the relocation of the administration of the 20th Guards OA to the border with Ukraine). The creation of the army ensured the management of formations deployed near Moscow.

            The army is intended to cover Moscow and the Moscow region. and ensuring their internal security. It is also a strategic strike reserve of the NE and can be used to strengthen the northwestern, western, and southwestern directions of the ZVO.

            The first to enter the 1st TA were the 4th Guards. tank and 2nd guards. motorized rifle divisions (4th TD and 2nd MSD), previously included in the 20th OA. Also in the army is the 6th division. tank and 27 det. motorized rifle brigades (6th Brigade in Mulino and 27th Motorized Rifle Brigade in Mosrentgen, the latter according to other sources - of district subordination), 112th Brb (Shuya, Ivanovo Region), 288 Abr (Mulino village, Nizhny Novgorod Region), 49th ZRbr (settlement Krasny Bor, Smolensk region), 96th ORBr (Nizhny Novgorod, Sormovo), 60th Obr U (settlement Selyatino and Bakovka), 69th Obr MTO (Dzerzhinsk, Nizhny Novgorod region, more one is being formed), the 20th p RHBZ (Nizhny Novgorod, PGT Tsentralny and ISP (the latter is being formed in 2018)).

            20th Guards OA (control in Voronezh, redeployed in 2015) is intended to cover Russia from the western (Ukrainian) direction.

            The army includes the 3rd and 144th guards. MSD, 1 Guards Otbr (Boguchar, not yet formed), 448th RBR (Kursk), 236th Abr (Kolomna), 53rd ZRbr (Kursk), 9th Obr U (Voronezh), Obr MTO (Voronezh).

            The new 8th OA (management in Novocherkassk, formed from the summer of 2017) is intended to cover Russia from the south-west (Ukrainian) direction.

            The army so far includes the 150th MSD, the 20th guards. OMSbr (Volgograd) and ZRbr. It was reported plans for the formation in the army of missile, artillery and detachment. reconnaissance brigades, as well as EW and MTO brigades. Experts suggest that the army consists of the 1st and 2nd army corps of the DPR and LPR; it is also possible that the 20th Guards. The motorized brigade will later be deployed to the division.

            The 58th OA (control in Vladikavkaz) is intended to cover the North Caucasus region of Russia and ensure internal security in it (including in Chechnya and Dagestan). It can be used to strengthen the southwestern, southern, and southeastern directions of the SEE.

            The army includes the 42nd Guards. MSD, 19th and 136th Motorized Rifle Brigades (Sputnik, Vladikavkaz and Buinaksk, Dagestan, from the end of 2018 it is planned to begin deploying these brigades in the 19th and 136th MSD), The 12th RBR is also included in the army ( Mozdok, North Ossetia), 291st Abr (station Troitskaya, Ingushetia), 67th ZBbr (Vladikavkaz), 100th ORBr (Mozdok-7), 34th Obr U (Vladikavkaz), 78th Obr MTO (Budyonnovsk, Stavropol Territory), 40th RHBZ (st. Troitskaya, Ingushetia), 31st ISP (Prokhladny, Kabardino-Balkaria), 14th det. EW (Vladikavkaz). It was reported that the 58th Army also included the 4th military base (WB, South Ossetia, Tskhinvali and the village of Java, reinforced by the Special Forces Brigade).

            The 41st OA (control in Novosibirsk) is intended to cover the central region of Russia and its CSTO allies (Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan) from the southern (Afghan) direction. It is also a strategic reserve of NEs and can be used to strengthen ZVO, YuVO and VVO.

            The army includes the 90th guards. TD, 35th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Aleisk), 74th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Yurga) and 41th Motorized Rifle Brigade (55th ?, Kyzyl). The army also includes the 119th RBR (p. Elansky), the 120th Abr (Yurga), the 61st ZRbr (Biysk), the 35th Obr U (p. Kochenevo), the 106th Obr MTO (Yurga), The 10th p RKhBZ (village Topchikha), the 75th communications center (Kalinovka). It was reported that the 41st army also included the 201st WB (Tajikistan, Dushanbe, reinforced mechanized brigade).

            The 5th OA (control in Ussuriysk) is intended to cover the Far Eastern region of Russia from the southeast (Chinese) and eastern (Japanese) directions.

            The army includes the 59th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Primorsky Territory, the village of Sergeevka, on its base from the end of 2018, the 127th Motorized Rifle Brigade will be formed), the 70th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Primorsky Territory, the village of Barabash), the 57th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Khabarovsk Territory, Bikin) and the 60th Motorized Rifle Brigade (Primorsky Territory, p. Kamen-Rybolov and p. Monastyrische). The army also includes the 20th Rbr (Primorsky Territory, Spassk-Dalniy), the 305th Abr (Ussuriysk), the 8th ZRbr (Ussuriysk), the 80th Obr U (Ussuriysk), the 101st Obr MTO (Ussuriysk ), 25th p RHBZ (Sergeevka), 79th communication center (Ussuriysk) [2-6].

            RECREATED DIVISIONS. In 2013-2018, 7 divisions were partially recreated in the NE: 4 in the Western Military District (4th TD, 2nd, 3rd and 144th MSD), 2 in the South-Eastern Military District (42nd and 150th MSD) and one in the Central Military District (90th TD). And from the end of 2018, the formation of three more MSDs will begin (the 19th and 136th in the SEE and 127th in the BBO).

            Also, it was planned to form 2 divisions in the coastal forces of the Navy (the 99th in the Pacific Fleet, and one more in the Northern Fleet), and the 104th Airborne Assault Division in the Airborne Forces (but a review of these plans is not the topic of this article).

            The first in May 2013 in the NE began the reconstruction of the 4th Guards. TD and 2nd Guards. MSD. At the beginning of 2016, these divisions entered the 1st Guards. THAT ZVO.

            4th guards Kantemirovskaya TD was formed in Naro-Fominsk on the basis of the 4th Otbr. It initially included 4 regiments (12th and 13th tank (Tp), 275th self-propelled artillery (SAp), 538th anti-aircraft missile (ZRp)) and five detachments. B-nov (137th reconnaissance (RB), 413rd communications (BS, 330th engineer-sapper (ISB), 1088th material support (BMO), 165th medical (MB)). At the end of 2016 The 423rd Motorized Rifle Regiment (MSp) and 4 Separate Companies (UAVs, EW, RCBZs and evacuation units) were formed, and the 14th Tp was still to be formed.

            Now, in connection with the receipt of the second Dr. MLRS ("Hurricane"), the Sap has been renamed the SARP (self-propelled artillery and missile regiments).

            2nd Guards The Taman MSD was formed in Kalininets on the basis of the 5th Motorized Rifle Brigade. It initially included 4 regiments (1st and 15th MSp, 147th SAP, 1117th ZRp), 1174th detachment. anti-tank (OPT) dn and five div. B-new (136th RB, 47th BS, 211st ISB, 1063rd BMO, 370th MB). At the end of 2016, the 1st TP and 4 div. companies (UAV, REB, RCBZ and evacuation.). The formation of the 283rd MSp remains to be formed.

            144th Guards The MSD (headquarters in Smolensk) began to be formed in June 2016 on the basis of the 28th Motorized Rifle Brigade. 2 regiments have already been formed (the 488th MPS in Klintsy and the 856th MAP in Pochep, both in the Bryansk region), as well as 3 detachments. B-on (148th RB, 686th BS, 295th ISB), In 2017, the formation of 3 more regiments (182nd MSP in the village of Zaimishche, Bryansk Region, 228th TP in Yelnya Smolenskaya region., 1259th ZRp), 2 div. B-nov (1032th BMO and 150th MB), as well as the 1281st OPT of Dr. It remains to be formed in Yelnya 254th MSP and 3 div. companies (UAVs, EWs and RCBZs).

            The 3rd MSD (headquarters in Belgorod) began to be formed in December 2016 on the basis of the 9th and 23rd Motorized Rifle Brigades. Five regiments have already been formed (5nd MSP in Boguchar, Voronezh Region, 252nd MSP and 752th TP, both in Valuyki and Soloti, 237th SARP in Boguchar and 99rd ZRp), as well as 1143 . B-nov (5th RB, 84nd BS, 692th ISB, 337th BMO and 911st MB), The 231th MSP, the 245th OPT of the 159rd and 3rd Departments are still to be formed. companies (UAVs, EWs and RCBZs).

            42nd Guards The MSD (headquarters in Grozny, according to other sources - in Khankala) began to be formed in 2016 on the basis of the 8th, 17th and 18th Motorized Rifle Brigades. 5 regiments have already been formed (70th, 71st, 291st MSp in Shali, Kalinovskaya, and Borzoi, respectively, 50th CPA in Shali and 1203rd ZRp), as well as 7 div. B-nov (417th RB, 763rd electronic warfare, 478th BS, 539th ISB, 474th BMO, 524th repair and restoration (RBV) and 106th MB), It remains to be formed tank battalion (Tb).

            The 150th MSD (headquarters in Persianovsky, according to other sources - in Novocherkassk, p. Kadamovsky) began to form in December 2016 on the basis of the 33rd Motorized Rifle Brigade. 3 regiments have already been formed (102nd MSP and 68th TP, both in Novocherkassk, p. Persianovsky, 933th ZRp in Rostov Region Millerovo), as well as 3 detachments. B-on (174th RB, 258th BS and 152nd BMO). Since the fall of 2017, 2 regiments (103rd MPS and 381st SARP) began to unfold in the settlements of Kadamovsky and Kuzminki, and from 2018 in the village of Kuzminki - the 163rd TP and 2 divisions. B-on (ISB, and the 195th MB). It is also necessary to form an OPT for Dr. and 6 Dep. mouth (UAV, REB, RHBZ, repair, evacuation and curfew).

            90th Guards The TD (headquarters in Chebarkul, Chelyabinsk region) began to be formed in December 2016 at the base of the 7th Brigade and 32nd Motorized Rifle Brigades. It initially included 3 regiments (the 239th military unit in Chebarkul, the 228th military unit in Yekaterinburg, the 400th unit in Karabash in the Chelyabinsk region) and 5 detachments. B-new (30th RB, 33rd BS, 351st ISB, 1122nd BMO, 26th MB). It remains to form 3 regiments (6th and 80th TP, ZRp, all in Chebarkul) and 3 detachments. companies (UAVs, EW, RCBZ) [2-5].
            1. Oleg Zorin
              Oleg Zorin 29 March 2020 22: 20 New
              +8
              Less for verbosity.
              1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                Nikolay Ivanov_5 29 March 2020 22: 37 New
                +5
                Quote: Oleg Zorin
                Less for verbosity.

                Chatterbox is a good find for a spy.
              2. Fantazer911
                Fantazer911 30 March 2020 07: 01 New
                +1
                Keep soldier
        4. Sgan
          Sgan 30 March 2020 11: 33 New
          -2
          The funny thing is that NATO doesn’t need a base in the Black Sea, because this puddle has no strategic importance. Therefore, the horror stories are very funny that without Krymnash, evil Americans would certainly create their base in Crimea. They do not need it either in the Crimea, or in Mariupol, nowhere on the Black Sea
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 29 March 2020 15: 48 New
        +5
        If such a desire is voiced, it means that the US Navy really wants to place a side /// ts. grab the enemy by the buckle to melee ... /// his unit. It may consist of a radar station, helipad service staff and "Herkulov". plus a duty officer /// like in Klaipeda /// a special forces unit of the Navy. They are there to carry out possible splashdowns of NATO pilots. Such a fire team, but they can throw some work for the Pentagon for this, in general, efficient machine. Items like The US Navy tried to keep the Soviet Union as far as possible from its borders. In the Western direction, no further than Germany-Denmark. The Black Sea region was dispensed with by satellite and aerial reconnaissance. Even the active operations of the NATO fleets of the USSR were decisively suppressed. Such a policy was, for the sake of its own security ... If you did not comply with our principles, then bulk.
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 29 March 2020 15: 52 New
          13
          Russia will declare recognition of the subjects of the LPR, DPR and will send troops to clean up the territories to the end of the borders of the new Ukraine. Mariupol will become free from the power of the Maidan races.
          1. primaala
            primaala 29 March 2020 15: 59 New
            11
            Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
            Russia will declare recognition of the subjects of the LPR, DPR and will send troops to clean up the territories to the end of the borders of the new Ukraine. Mariupol will become free from the power of the Maidan races.

            It has long been recognized. What are they waiting for !? until the clash with the Yankees really happens !?
            I do not understand our policy.
            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 29 March 2020 16: 06 New
              0
              Apparently, the Yankees still have leverage over the impact, but if this continues, our patience may end and the situation will get out of their control.
              1. primaala
                primaala 29 March 2020 16: 11 New
                +3
                THEY already rule Ukraine. Turkey was admitted to Syria. The result is observed ...
                One has only to allow "staking", and that’s it !!! Then do not kick out ...
                Israel asked to stand with the Palestinians. Yeah ... just watching ...
                1. Aerodrome
                  Aerodrome 29 March 2020 16: 20 New
                  +7
                  In Ukraine, proposed to create a naval base of NATO in Mariupol
                  1. Tuzik
                    Tuzik 29 March 2020 16: 48 New
                    +5
                    Awesome answer! good
                    1. Mitroha
                      Mitroha 29 March 2020 17: 34 New
                      +5
                      The answer is good, but P.Indos hardly watched Mask shows.
                      And such proposals, meanwhile, must be answered as tightly as possible. So harsh, economic, political methods, it doesn’t matter that even voicing thoughts from the non-brothers comes up anymore. Because ALL actions begin with probing the soil. And if we "shaw", it will only get worse.
                      1. Tuzik
                        Tuzik 30 March 2020 10: 25 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Mitroha
                        The answer is good, but

                        The airfield, without any words, in one two second fragment, conveyed the emotional state of many people to this news!
                2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  Nikolay Ivanov_5 29 March 2020 16: 59 New
                  +4
                  The consent of the NATO bloc to the proposal to deploy such a base in Mariupol will be a provocation, which will be the last straw and lead to a direct clash.
              2. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 30 March 2020 01: 55 New
                0
                , There are levers, unfortunately ... In the Georgian war, the army began to act automatically. There was a decision from the headquarters of the Southern District after the call of the MS curator. He swearingly asked why his sons were put under artillery. They listened to him, of course. And then the columns went. Without a precedent, an attack or threat of attack on the territory or face of the Russian Federation does not even blur the mosquito. That is, we need a case, but in Ukraine it is much more complicated. Very difficult topic
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 29 March 2020 23: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
            Russia will announce the recognition of the subjects of the LPR, DPR ...

            hi
            Then the other day, "pecked" with vangs known for his attacks on Portnikov’s fan. But, oddly enough, in some ways he is right:
        2. dvina71
          dvina71 29 March 2020 16: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          o means the U.S. Navy really wants to place it side by side //

          Well, absolutely it’s not necessary to consider them as idiots .. What will they go to Azov on? Remind the fairway depth? Yes, and under the bridge they need to go ..
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 29 March 2020 16: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Andrei Gurov
        They don’t know in what position to surrender.

        Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
        There is no money, but I want to.

        Guys - are you seriously discussing the whole of Ukraine on the petition of a certain Makar Alexander Georgievich? belay Yes, there are a considerable number of "friendly" Russia eccentrics, but why discuss each of their bunch?
        1. DMB_95
          DMB_95 29 March 2020 16: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72

          Guys - are you seriously discussing the whole of Ukraine on the petition of a certain Makar Alexander Georgievich? belay Yes, there are a considerable number of "friendly" Russia eccentrics, but why discuss each of their bunch?

          Maybe a "bunch", or maybe the States are monitoring our possible reaction to their possible real actions in this direction.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 29 March 2020 17: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: DMB_95
            Maybe a "bunch", or maybe the States are monitoring our possible reaction

            Well, I don’t know what kind of probability there is of course, but in this case it’s rather a “bunch”. But I'm not to that. It’s just stupid to judge public policy by a single petition. For comparison, you can see the petitions to Putin - there, along with common things, a lot of all nonsense.
            1. DMB_95
              DMB_95 30 March 2020 11: 00 New
              +1
              And the special services do not make final conclusions on the "individual petition." They collect information on a topic of interest to them from various sources. But in this case, it is most likely really just a "bunch".
      4. den3080
        den3080 29 March 2020 18: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrei Gurov
        They don’t know in what position to surrender.

        Yes.
        all conceivable and inconceivable holes have already been provided so that they are raped :)
        but it doesn’t work out ...
      5. 4ekist
        4ekist 30 March 2020 12: 22 New
        0
        Crustacean probably.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 29 March 2020 16: 58 New
      0
      When Ukraine tries to join NATO, Russia is obliged to annul all international treaties with Ukraine, and annex all Russian lands!
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 29 March 2020 23: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        When Ukraine tries to join NATO, Russia is obliged to annul all international treaties with Ukraine, and annex all Russian lands!

        hi
        In / on the Ruin, a "Chinese" behavior is being considered (remember about a monkey on a rock and a tiger with a crocodile below?). So, some of the cunning *** svidomitov offers such a strategy for the Ruins:

        As regards your proposal, there are no references to lands granted by the Soviet authorities to Ukraine in any INTERNATIONAL treaties. These acts were an internal affair of the USSR.
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 29 March 2020 17: 13 New
      0
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Already do not know where to lick!

      They want money for a cut.
    4. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 29 March 2020 17: 54 New
      -2
      No longer know where to sleep.
    5. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 30 March 2020 05: 32 New
      +1
      The last paragraph of Article 17 of the Constitution of Ukraine prohibits the creation on the territory of Ukraine of foreign military bases and the deployment of foreign troops
      1. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 30 March 2020 05: 38 New
        +1
        In order to place the US base there, it is necessary to amend the Constitution of Ukraine. This is relatively easy to do. But thereby, the leadership of Ukraine will once again emphasize its lack of independence and failure.

        In response to this, Russia should intensify clashes and sabotage in the Donbass and by moving the clash line to the east.

        It is unlikely that this will lead to increased sanctions on Russia in an epidemic. But we must also forget about lifting sanctions, because no matter what Russia makes to the West, sanctions will not be lifted.

        And of course, it is necessary to restore the intelligence center in Lourdes in Cuba. The Kibinans will do this because they already understood that the departure of R. Castro from the presidency did not lead and will not lead to the lifting of sanctions from Cuba, because the United States clearly wants a complete change in the political regime in Cuba.
  2. Timon2155
    Timon2155 29 March 2020 15: 23 New
    +4
    Here and the Black Sea-puddle. In general, Azov’s plan is a so-so venture. Spreading this base will be too easy. There will be no base there, but NATO is not such fools as Ukrainians. In which case ours will sink the barge under the arch of the bridge and that's it, the base has risen.
    1. knn54
      knn54 29 March 2020 15: 56 New
      +1
      a certain Makara Alexander Georgievich.
      "Alternative giftedness," however.
    2. gurzuf
      gurzuf 29 March 2020 16: 41 New
      +1
      And that base is just ships? I do not agree with you. Put some sort of electronic warfare and it will be a big hemorrhoid.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 March 2020 15: 24 New
    +2
    In Ukraine, it was proposed to create a NATO military base in the country.
    Think narrowly. Offer to create a NATO military base on Mars. Or in the Crimea, it's yours fool Donetsk is also well-suited, and then after deploying a NATO base, fire at it as you can. fool
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 29 March 2020 15: 26 New
    +3
    They talk about training officers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ... on the example of Georgia, a bad example.
    But ... the Americans are getting closer and closer to our borders ... it's time for them to do some sort of trouble ... to bring to life.
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 29 March 2020 15: 51 New
      +2
      Byaka is a discarded but still solid medium to give to “For temporary use”.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 29 March 2020 15: 52 New
        +2
        Well, that’s what he’s bullying in the mood towards the Sea of ​​Japan ... presumably ... he gets satisfaction.
  5. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 29 March 2020 15: 28 New
    +2
    They made a decision ..... Well, well ... And then what? Even if they create it, the General Staff of the Russian Federation will mark the flag with understandable consequences on the map. Does Ukraine need it? Do Ukrainians need it? And do the NATO people need it? Well, they’re not full there ... Or is it still all bad with a thinker?
    In truth: the Lord wants to punish - will deprive the mind.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 29 March 2020 15: 33 New
      +3
      Does Ukraine need it?

      As I understand it, it is very necessary ... against the background of the Russian language ban, anything can be expected from Ukraine.
      1. Masha
        Masha 29 March 2020 15: 59 New
        +5
        Though a scarecrow, even a carcass ... wink
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 29 March 2020 16: 41 New
        -1
        Interestingly, has compulsory English been introduced in Ukropia, or is everything still ahead? And all documents in the sahib language should be.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 29 March 2020 15: 38 New
      -2
      It doesn’t seem like the NATO were afraid of these red flags
      1. gurzuf
        gurzuf 29 March 2020 16: 45 New
        +1
        We just don’t put them to them, but we are seriously concerned.
    3. Tuzik
      Tuzik 29 March 2020 16: 56 New
      0
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      ... Do NATOers need it? well, not complete sit there ...

      Well, would you refuse to have a base, for example, in Honduras?
    4. Lelek
      Lelek 30 March 2020 00: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      Does Ukraine need it?

      hi
      Ukraine, or rather the current Kiev leadership - yes, to annoy Russia. After all, the current Ruin without it is like a beggar on the porch. To the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the front end - bad weather, they have other fun. Citizens and villagers - this fuss "in the drum", they would have at least some freebie to break off (at least in money, at least in kind).
      1. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 30 March 2020 08: 58 New
        +2
        hi
        the current Ruin without it, like a beggar on the porch.

        I agree.
        But here's why "HOW"? So it is - there is no money, no medicine, no army, no people, no brains.
        The porch and unclear prospects remained.
        And as regards non-combat losses - even though I am a relative humanist and always regret the gene pool, but in this case ...: yes, at least let everyone solve each other there.
        1. Nemchinov Vl
          Nemchinov Vl 31 March 2020 01: 25 New
          -1
          Quote: CAT BAYUN
          But here's why "HOW"? So it is - there is no money, no medicine, no army, no people, no brains.
          The porch and unclear prospects remained.
          .
          "choose who you want to be deceived ?!" - look there - https://youtu.be/Fu6kqH4mvMk ... from about 12:00 min, look a little more closely ...
          when will you digest everything ?! ... check your categorical thoughts ?! maybe they were sent ?!
  6. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 29 March 2020 15: 28 New
    +2
    In Mariupol ??! Aren't you afraid that the NATO troughs of the superstructure under the bridge will shave? Or wait in Azov for six-sixth longboats?
    The provocateurs are bad. As I understand it, someone’s Crimean bridge is worse than a pain in the ass.
    1. volodimer
      volodimer 29 March 2020 16: 42 New
      0
      It’s interesting if all this happens ... Will the NATO ships request passage under the bridge? Or there is no "Crimea Ukrainian" bridge ... and they, like the "UK Fleet", will themselves break through ..
      In the first case, with a request for passage, this is recognition of Crimea by Russian territory.
      And the second ... well, there will be no such thing. winked
  7. helmi8
    helmi8 29 March 2020 15: 29 New
    +4
    declares the author, a certain Makara Alexander Georgievich

    Rich nenka "Napoleons" ...
  8. Pavel57
    Pavel57 29 March 2020 15: 30 New
    +2
    Noble provocateurs.
  9. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 29 March 2020 15: 40 New
    +1
    Pure prostitution!
    1. Tuzik
      Tuzik 29 March 2020 17: 01 New
      0
      The trick is that if Ukraine escapes under the wing of Russia, it will remain a prostitute, only according to the rest of the world.
      1. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 31 March 2020 01: 32 New
        -1
        Quote: Tuzik
        The trick is that if Ukraine escapes under the wing of Russia, it will remain a prostitute, only according to the rest of the world.
        ... - https://youtu.be/Fu6kqH4mvMk , from about 15:50 you may like it ....
  10. Andobor
    Andobor 29 March 2020 15: 41 New
    0
    Then, in response to Ukrainian provocations, the militias will capture Mariupol,
    But does NATO need it? - if it were necessary, they would have been created long ago, - and vice versa.
    - What kind of real policy is she - and that’s all for the TV.
    1. primaala
      primaala 29 March 2020 15: 51 New
      +3
      Then, in response to Ukrainian provocations, the militia will capture Mariupol
      ===============
      Mariupol - Donetsk region It is not clear ... why is still not part of the DNI.
      In vain, ours did not immediately do what had to be done. NATO members, without agreement, have long walked all over Ukraine.
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 29 March 2020 16: 44 New
        0
        Mariupol - Donetsk region It is not clear ... why is still not part of the DNI.

        All clear. Without the Mariupol port, the end of Ahmetka’s business is that it’s no longer possible to export metallurgical products. Therefore, Mariupol and passed in 2014. Only business - nothing personal.
        1. primaala
          primaala 29 March 2020 16: 47 New
          0
          Quote: Aviator_
          Mariupol - Donetsk region It is not clear ... why is still not part of the DNI.

          All clear. Without the Mariupol port, the end of Ahmetka’s business is that it’s no longer possible to export metallurgical products. Therefore, Mariupol and passed in 2014. Only business - nothing personal.

          It was necessary to drive him right there. Even today, he "directs" the Yenakiyevo Metallurgical Plant.
          Again, the question: WHY allow ???
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 29 March 2020 16: 51 New
            0
            And what is our system now? - capitalist. The raven will not peck out the crow.
            1. primaala
              primaala 29 March 2020 16: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: Aviator_
              And what is our system now? - capitalist. The raven will not peck out the crow.

              He "does not unfasten ANYTHING" DNR. The question is different - he was "allowed" to WHILE paid workers. And so that was less than our costs. (for content).
              Although ... the factory has long been established breathing.
              1. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 29 March 2020 18: 01 New
                0
                He "does not unfasten ANYTHING" DNR.

                Sits on two chairs - afraid of the arrival of the Sumerians. As experience shows, this will not last long.
          2. Nemchinov Vl
            Nemchinov Vl 31 March 2020 01: 44 New
            -1
            Quote: primaala
            Quote: Aviator_
            Mariupol - Donetsk region It is not clear ... why is still not part of the DNI.

            All clear. Without the Mariupol port, the end of Ahmetka’s business is that it’s no longer possible to export metallurgical products. Therefore, Mariupol and passed in 2014. Only business - nothing personal.

            It was necessary to drive him right there. Even today, he "directs" the Yenakiyevo Metallurgical Plant.
            Again, the question: WHY allow ???

            - "because in reality, everything is not as it really is!" (quote from the movie "Intention", the links there are higher if you want ...
  11. Incompetent
    Incompetent 29 March 2020 15: 42 New
    +2
    They want to kiss Russia in any way, but it turns out only to become a crustacean themselves ... what is in front of the Russian Federation what is the EU, what kind of state .. one should stop the miserable existence and divide the land between sane neighbors
  12. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 29 March 2020 15: 47 New
    +4
    Russia needs to be reminded to the people of Ukraine that it is necessary to pay for NATO bases from the budget of Ukraine and that this assistance is not free.

    For comparison, South Korea pays almost $ 1 billion a year, and the United States since this year has demanded almost $ 5 billion from them.
    1. Tuzik
      Tuzik 29 March 2020 17: 07 New
      0
      "In 2018, South Korea, for the fifth time in a row, ranked # 1 in the Bloomberg Innovation Index. This index ranks countries according to seven criteria, including research and development costs and the concentration of high-tech state-owned companies in the country."
      "The average salary in South Korea is approximately 3350 cu a month or $ 40 a year."
      1. Mihail2019
        Mihail2019 29 March 2020 20: 49 New
        0
        Yes thank you! We all remember the "window" of capitalism in Southeast Asia.
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 29 March 2020 21: 15 New
        0
        "The average salary in South Korea is approximately 3350 cu a month or $ 40 a year."


        Why are you doing this? What do you think is due to US bases in South Korea there are such salaries? )))

        And I thought because South Korea has a developed industry and economy as a whole, it produces almost 10 million cars a year, and besides that, there’s a lot of everything else from ships to modern smartphones !!!

        Bulgaria, Greece, the Baltic countries in the EU and NATO, there are also salaries of 3350 cu? No, why?
        1. Tuzik
          Tuzik 29 March 2020 21: 26 New
          0
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          What are you talking about?

          But you remembered South Korea, and I supported the conversation. smile
          Ukraine and Russia should strive for such indicators as I have cited. hi
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 30 March 2020 09: 46 New
            0
            But you remembered South Korea, and I supported the conversation. smile
            Ukraine and Russia should strive for such indicators as I have cited. hi


            I cited South Korea as an example for understanding the cost for the budget of deploying US bases on its territory.

            To discuss the level of development of production and ways to improve it, in my opinion, well, other resources. And then according to your comment you might think that such salaries in South Korea are solely because they placed US bases at their place.
            1. Tuzik
              Tuzik 30 March 2020 10: 00 New
              0
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              I cited South Korea as an example for understanding the cost for the budget of deploying US bases on its territory.

              And I showed you on the example of the same South Korea that these bases did not create any problems for the development of an advanced economy and raising the standard of living.
              1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 30 March 2020 10: 43 New
                +1
                And I showed you on the example of the same South Korea that these bases did not create any problems for the development of an advanced economy and raising the standard of living.


                In your best application, 1-5 billion dollars for South Korea can not be found? But these are only base fees, besides this, the USA also forces them to buy their weapons, which comes at a huge cost and if this is not a problem for developed South Korea, then for countries such as Bulgaria, Poland, the Baltic countries all this translates into huge costs and forces to reduce spending on other areas, which affects the level of development of these countries and social policy.

                Membership in NATO is a voluntary submission to the American Golden Horde, with regular payment of tribute and even with a label on the principality in their own country.
  13. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 29 March 2020 15: 49 New
    +5
    Soon there will be more naval bases in Rohland than there are ships. laughing
  14. Sova
    Sova 29 March 2020 16: 02 New
    +7
    Quote: Andobor
    Then, in response to Ukrainian provocations, the militias will capture Mariupol,

    It is a pity that in 14-15 years the attack on Mariupol stopped, then there was no talk of this.
  15. svp67
    svp67 29 March 2020 16: 04 New
    +1
    a certain Makara Alexander Georgievich.
    NATO will send him with his idea to where he still did not drive calves ...
  16. orionvitt
    orionvitt 29 March 2020 16: 07 New
    0
    Insanity grows stronger. All these pearls from Ukraine remind me of the hysteria of a capricious child, who, in the epilepsy, screams heart-rendingly, "haachuuu." But adult uncles, such behavior, are indicatively ignored.
  17. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 29 March 2020 16: 15 New
    +1
    Where will the teleportator be set to penetrate the Sea of ​​Azov? Ukrovirus does not kill the body, but the brain disappears.
  18. K-50
    K-50 29 March 2020 16: 18 New
    +1
    In Ukraine, proposed to create a naval base of NATO in Mariupol

    Someone will let this nature pass through the Kerch Strait! lol
    The sharing agreement does not mean that there may be warships of third countries!
  19. Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 March 2020 16: 19 New
    +3
    And those creatures who are ready to sell for thirty striped silver coins, someone we consider brothers? Yes, at such a rate of betrayal, soon the very word Ukrainian will cause nausea in all normal people. This is how it is necessary not to love your country and your people in order to call the invaders on your own land?
  20. alavrin
    alavrin 29 March 2020 16: 26 New
    +2
    And hunting you ravings maydanutyh publish and comment? Thought something serious, on an officer. level, and these are the wet dreams of banderlog.
  21. Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 29 March 2020 16: 32 New
    -1
    US GDP will fall by 60% no later than a year, and the US will fall apart - with or without a civil war. dill without the support of the owners will follow
  22. cniza
    cniza 29 March 2020 16: 47 New
    +1
    I recommend creating a naval base for the permanent deployment of the NATO alliance fleet in Mariupol. In connection with the constant threat and incorrect behavior of the aggressor country of Russia


    What to take from a sick person ...
  23. brasist
    brasist 29 March 2020 16: 52 New
    0
    This clown goes deeper and deeper into shit ...
    1. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 29 March 2020 17: 41 New
      0
      Shaw valtsman "laid", no one will dissipate, especially a clown.
  24. iouris
    iouris 29 March 2020 16: 57 New
    0
    A promising thought, the implementation of the proposal will accelerate the denouement.
  25. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 29 March 2020 16: 58 New
    +1
    What else to sell? How else to sell?
  26. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 29 March 2020 17: 06 New
    0
    The Sea of ​​Azov is very shallow and is connected with the Black Sea by the shallow and narrow Kerch Strait, which is completely controlled by Russia. Zelensky invites NATO to get into a trap from which it is impossible to get out without loss
  27. Prisoner
    Prisoner 29 March 2020 17: 13 New
    +1
    Not frail gesheft broke with Svidomo with the return of Crimea to Russia. They are still looking for an alternative. laughing
  28. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 29 March 2020 17: 40 New
    0
    And someone I express concern.
  29. Vodrak
    Vodrak 29 March 2020 17: 53 New
    +1
    But when will Russia become an aggressor?!?!
    Half the world has been waiting for hundreds of years !!!
    Already just asking !!!
  30. Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin 29 March 2020 17: 56 New
    0
    Well, why not offer? laughing Anything can be offered. Some newspapers still publish jokes, and nothing ... they read.
  31. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 29 March 2020 18: 21 New
    -1
    Well, if you have a lot of money and supplies in the form of soldiers from naturalized Latinos, then of course you can build a base. And at hour “X”, “tornadoes” and “tornadoes” will work on it from the other side and that’s all - cheap and cheerful. Somehow, Zelik scribble scribble.
  32. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 29 March 2020 18: 26 New
    -2
    In Ukraine, what is the name? In Cuba .... in America ...... in Australia ......
    1. Bumblebee_3
      Bumblebee_3 29 March 2020 19: 33 New
      +1
      GTYCBJYTH2021 (Andrey)
      What do you need to explain the features of the Russian language? Yes, we say so, for example: in the Urals, in the Caucasus, in the Far East, in the Kolyma! And no one, from these areas, does not complex. Unless, of course, your post is not banter.
  33. Andrei Gurov
    Andrei Gurov 29 March 2020 18: 27 New
    0
    Rada should propose the United States to transfer Fort Knox to Zhmerinka.
  34. codetalker
    codetalker 29 March 2020 18: 33 New
    0
    Prepare a place for the plague Theodore Roosevelt?)
  35. Pastor
    Pastor 29 March 2020 18: 37 New
    0
    If only litter is stronger. It reminds the Polish version: since we are friends with the strong, then we are significant. Oh well. Six is ​​always six, no matter what gentleman she serves.
  36. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 29 March 2020 18: 51 New
    +1
    What a twist!..
    Although "Russia drew attention to this proposal, saying that the deployment of NATO ships in the Sea of ​​Azov is unrealistic and does not depend on Ukraine’s sole decision on this. According to Russian-Ukrainian agreements, the Sea of ​​Azov is the inland sea of ​​the two countries."
    Honestly, in my unenlightened view, the South-East should have been taken then. In the year '14. All the prerequisites for this were. Everyone was waiting for this. I mean enough sympathetic UA citizens. Of which there were quite a few.
    For some reason, I was sure that not today, tomorrow Kharkov is OUR! ..
    Instead, slurred stomping on the spot ... And chewing snot mixed with coronovirus.
    Sanctions soldered even with Kharkov, even without ...
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 29 March 2020 19: 11 New
      0
      But at least the turbines were b. What for shipbuilding, what for aviators.
      And the bridge - you see, is not particularly relevant ... Would.
      This money should be invested much more in the development of regions and the purchase of modern equipment.
      And the regions would be greatly appreciated.
      Yes, what to say ....
  37. salad
    salad 29 March 2020 19: 13 New
    -1
    Choke on your own gastric juice rulers of the junta !!!! Licked as much as the isort climbed out !!!!
  38. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 29 March 2020 19: 27 New
    0
    Ah, how they hunt the owner’s ass to lick! A flag in your hands and a drum on your neck! laughing tongue wassat
  39. nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 29 March 2020 19: 53 New
    0
    NATO ships will go to the port of Mariupol exclusively on the bottom and on foot on a burlak traction.
    1. Bumblebee_3
      Bumblebee_3 29 March 2020 20: 14 New
      -1
      nikolaj1703 (Nikolai)
      The base of NATO is not only ships. They can place a missile defense system there - "against Iran." Who will forbid them? And besides, there can be not only the American contingent, but also English, for example. And you never know what can be placed on "this base."
  40. Mihail2019
    Mihail2019 29 March 2020 20: 26 New
    0
    There is a proposal all Ukraine to declare the territory illegally seized from Russia. And recognize all the authorities in Kiev - separatist bandits.
    And put an end to this in the Minsk agreements
    1. nikolaj1703
      nikolaj1703 29 March 2020 20: 35 New
      +1
      I agree. The first separatist was Kravchuk
      1. Mihail2019
        Mihail2019 29 March 2020 20: 51 New
        0
        There were four of them: Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich! With the filing of Gorbachev!
        And all, as one - party functionaries!
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 29 March 2020 21: 56 New
          +1
          But what's the point now procrastinate these figures ???
          Since then, thousands of tons of water have flowed into the oceans.
  41. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 29 March 2020 23: 19 New
    -1
    Quote: Benzorez
    But at least the turbines were b. What for shipbuilding, what for aviators.
    And the bridge - you see, is not particularly relevant ... Would.
    This money should be invested much more in the development of regions and the purchase of modern equipment.
    And the regions would be greatly appreciated.
    Yes, what to say ....

    Who are you teaching now? which country? What are your suggestions, just do not fart? !!!
  42. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 29 March 2020 23: 38 New
    0
    read this article:
    http://agitpro.su/zheleznyj-kaput-sravnenie-voennoj-moshhi-rossii-i-nato/
    I don’t see with whom to fight, here earlier they were inclining us for a novice, and now everyone in the rag is silent striped satellites !!!
  43. Alexander Zima
    Alexander Zima 30 March 2020 10: 38 New
    0
    The pier in Kerch has already been freed ..... so you can put the arrested ships of NATO that violate the border of the Russian Federation .. and in full law ... but they can also by force ... straight from the shore ..
  44. Shadow041
    Shadow041 30 March 2020 10: 40 New
    +2
    It is time to impose a complete embargo on trade with Banderostan and send home all the zarobitans, so that Zelensky and the company have other problems and there is no time to shit Russia !!!
  45. sanik2020
    sanik2020 30 March 2020 12: 04 New
    0
    First, let the coronavirus survive and then maybe there will be no one to open this base.
  46. Alexfly
    Alexfly 30 March 2020 12: 36 New
    -1
    Each time they will line up in line to stand under the bridge ....
  47. ZVS
    ZVS 30 March 2020 14: 24 New
    0
    Once again I am convinced that in Ukraine there are less and less adequate people. It seems that the whole nation is completely crazy with the mind.
  48. NF68
    NF68 30 March 2020 16: 31 New
    0
    The best time to create a database.