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The Italian media suggested that the peak incidence of coronavirus in Italy passed

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The Italian media suggested that the peak incidence of coronavirus in Italy passed

The Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera provides statistics on admission to clinics across the country of patients with a new type of coronavirus infection. The author of the material, Simone Ravitstsa, analyzing the statistics, puts an emphasis on the province of Lombardy, which is called the "litmus test of Italy on the situation with COVID-19."


From an article by the mentioned author:

The percentage of new hospitalizations is slowing. If from March 6 to 12 the average increase in hospitalized in Lombardy was 20%, from March 12 to 19 it was already 8%, now it has decreased to 5,6%.

The following is a comment by Julio Gallera, Health Advisor:

The burden on emergency rooms continues to decline. In some regions, including the emergency department in Pavia, a 30 percent decline was recorded. There are regions where the number of incoming patients with COVID-19 has become less than the number of patients with problems unrelated to coronavirus infection.

This gave reason to assume that Italy overcame the peak of coronavirus infection. But Italian medical experts are asking ahead of time not to declare victory over COVID-19.



In the same material:

There is a slowdown in the circulation of the virus. The data, however, should not be misleading. Otherwise, it can be risky for each of us.

The epidemiologist Guido Bertolini says that a decrease in the number of hospital admissions may indicate, for example, that patients seek medical help too late, preferring to stay at home with the initial symptoms of the disease and not considering these symptoms something serious.

At the same time, experts note that in the near future it will become clear what is the true reason for the decrease in the number of hospitalizations and whether this reason is related to the peak of the incidence of COVID-19 or the banal personal irresponsibility of citizens.
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infographic of Corriere della Sera
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  1. Awaz
    Awaz 28 March 2020 15: 23 New
    -3
    Yes, everything is simple, this is not the first time that we have seen how the Russians appear on the front of the fight against infection - it begins to recede
    1. kind
      kind 28 March 2020 16: 09 New
      +4
      Here, with this infection and oil games, the world is distracted from something more terrible. Know from what? I wish I were wrong!
      1. Awaz
        Awaz 28 March 2020 17: 11 New
        +3
        Well, actually, with such fraudsters they always distract you when financial bubbles crash. This is not the first time . Well, they can’t just say so on Monday that the world financial system is overheated and the market should collapse, all the suckers should lose their money. Suckers then will not forgive. Well, maybe they will forgive, but the sediment will remain. Immediately, it was not our fault (the Chinese, Russians, Arabs, and anyone else, I won’t say it’s my fault), but we are so white and fluffy for your grandmothers who are fighting for all our strength and want you to lose less. ..
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        2. Lelek
          Lelek 28 March 2020 17: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: AwaZ
          Well, maybe they will forgive, but the sediment will remain.

          hi
          Forgive - they will not forgive - the coming months will show:
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 28 March 2020 23: 17 New
            0
            The collapse of the EU will only strengthen the dollar.
            And in the consequences for the peaceful life of all mankind, the dollar is worse than the EU.
            At the expense of the "passed peak" write only in Italy. Others don't think so.
            The situation in the world due to coronavirus: Great Britain and India declared quarantine, in Spain and Italy there are even more patients

            More and more deaths. Coronavirus and does not think to stop. None of the countries except China has positive dynamics. In Italy, Spain more than 600 people die per day. From these numbers it becomes creepy. The authorities of the countries are tightening their preventive measures more and more every day so that people finally understand that their main task is to stay at home. See how our world fights coronavirus in our story.

            Submitted by Russian America TV Saturday, March 28, 2020
        3. Astra wild
          Astra wild 28 March 2020 21: 14 New
          0
          Colleagues Good and AwaZ, according to your logic, it turns out that this is a cheap hoax? If only this virus infected only China and Eastern Europe, you could still talk about it, but look at what is happening in Germany, Italy, Spain, and the USA. Among those infected: Johnson, Merkel's suspicion and Trump also flashed information that they suspected
          1. Awaz
            Awaz 29 March 2020 05: 57 New
            +1
            I am not trying to claim that this is a cheap hoax. However, the world is not ruled by Merkel and Johnson and not even Putin and Trump. The owners of money rule the world and they do not care at all for everyone, including Merkel and Trump.
            I’m not saying that this is an artificial infection, but the fact that they are trying to clear a huge number of losers with its help is clearly visible.
            Only probably not a smart person at all did not see that the current economic scheme has reached its limit and there is nowhere to blow bubbles anymore.
            And yet, if you look at the situation with sober eyes, it is suspicious, but the main blow was on China. As I see it, Italy and Europe have suffered from carelessness. North America begins to suffer from the fact that they failed to "wash their hands" during the time .. Eastern Europe was probably not interesting for the virus. Although we do not yet know what is really happening in Russia. It is very suspicious that doctors suddenly began to put pneumonia on the population, which they have always ignored to the last.
      2. ALEKSEY
        ALEKSEY 28 March 2020 23: 25 New
        -6
        And I think they do not distract the virus, but act on it.
        Intimidate everyone, put on house arrest, deprive of communication with the outside world. Come, vaccinate - turn into a vegetable, and then that’s enough fantasy.
    2. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 28 March 2020 20: 00 New
      -7
      Have Russians declared quarantine in Russia? Or was they also sent to Italy?
      1. businessv
        businessv 28 March 2020 22: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
        Have Russians declared quarantine in Russia? Or was they also sent to Italy?

        It seems to be writing in Russian, but the feeling is that you are chatting on some kind of African chat with your fellow Africans!
    3. Maz
      Maz 28 March 2020 22: 47 New
      -1
      ONLY NUMBERS

      27,3 devices per 100 thousand population - an indicator of the availability of mechanical ventilation in Russia, this is the first place in the world
      18,8 - the same indicator for the United States
      8,6 - in Ukraine
      8,3 - in Italy - 8,3
      In Israel, no higher than in Italy. We draw conclusions - the chances of survival are greater in Russia.
      1. private person
        private person 28 March 2020 23: 09 New
        +1
        We draw conclusions - the chances of survival are greater in Russia.

        You probably wanted to say in Moscow? Indeed, in Moscow, the most advanced facilities are being built there under this hospital. And in the regions if this infection multiplies it will be 3,14ts.
        1. Dog
          Dog 29 March 2020 03: 43 New
          0
          Quote: private person
          You probably wanted to say in Moscow?

          The lack of health services per capita beyond the Urals is much higher than in Moscow. This is due to the low population density and its scattered living.
          From a friend of mine, my parents bought an apartment in the Moscow Region from the Urals, but they postponed the move for almost a year, because for health reasons, my father had some procedures that were practically impossible to get in the Moscow region (it’s the turn), and they there - easily.
          1. private person
            private person 29 March 2020 08: 45 New
            0
            beyond the Urals is much higher than in Moscow.

            This you probably mean XMO and YANO of the city of oil and gas industry workers?
      2. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
        Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 28 March 2020 23: 39 New
        0
        Where are the numbers from?
      3. Dog
        Dog 29 March 2020 03: 39 New
        +1
        For the chances of survival, of course, thanks. But here you have it:
        Quote: Maz
        in Ukraine

        error. And this is a fundamental point, even against the background of the virus.
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 28 March 2020 15: 29 New
    +3
    The Italian media suggested that the peak incidence of coronavirus in Italy passed

    God forbid!
    Theirs, catholic.
    (I know that all Christians have one god. But there are nuances in providers)
  3. Dikson
    Dikson 28 March 2020 15: 38 New
    +5
    Old people with chronic sores are over ... God forgive me .. And the decline is because people were driven into quarantine ..
    1. Liam
      Liam 28 March 2020 15: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Dikson
      Old people with chronic sores are over ... God forgive me .. And the decline is because people were driven into quarantine ..

      Old people with chronic sores in Italy-15.000.000
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 28 March 2020 17: 13 New
        -10
        Here is one version of the notorious high mortality rate in Italy:
        About Italian and in general Mediterranean Romanesque coronavirus I will express such considerations.

        An epidemic death is an insured event. But death from a stroke is not. The state recognized the epidemic and it started. Doctors entered a share with relatives and everyone who died in the hospital, and at the same time who can be reported that he has a coronavirus in his tests, they put him to death from a coronavirus, which means due to an epidemic. The doctor immediately receives a couple of hundred euros in the hands of the deceased's relatives, and then the relatives go for insurance. At the same time, the bodies are immediately burned - and by law, and relatives - the main beneficiaries of the combination - do not mind. So that insurance companies do not prove fraud.

        Therefore, Italians do not publish general mortality statistics - otherwise it will turn out that the number of deaths of old people from other, “uninsured” diseases has decreased by about the number of insured events. And therefore, in the rich northern Italy, reporting is literally pestilence, and in the relatively poor Apennines everything is the way to go. The Albanians there did not insure their old people simply - why would they then all this with the burning of the bodies of loved ones.

        https://sapojnik.livejournal.com/3167740.html?thread=328476924#t328476924
        And here is a picture about "Spanish flu (peak of the epidemic)":
        1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
          Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 28 March 2020 20: 01 New
          -8
          It’s good that Russian insurance is not available, they’ll just bury themselves from ARVI.
        2. Astra wild
          Astra wild 28 March 2020 20: 32 New
          +6
          "Doctors share with their families," and is China also a fraudulent insurance company? 50 Italian doctors have already died from the coronavirus - also an "insurance fraud".?
        3. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 28 March 2020 22: 05 New
          +8
          Quote: Snail N9
          Epidemic death - insured event ...

          Have you ever talked with Italians? I see that no. This audience lives as a family and no insurance payments will cancel it.
          You surprise me - the Italians are mentally very close to the Russians: “soul for plowing,” family in priorities. Say this in Italy - you will be torn. Sorry but you are wrong
          1. Cananecat
            Cananecat 29 March 2020 03: 17 New
            +1
            I will support ... but for the reason that not every elderly resident of Italy can afford insurance ...
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 29 March 2020 08: 30 New
              +4
              It should be borne in mind that the Italian system of state medicine is among the top five in the world: if you paid taxes and are a resident, especially in the north. They are very proud of their medicine and for them the shock of everything that happens is a consequence of mistakes made at the beginning of the epidemic.
  4. PSih2097
    PSih2097 28 March 2020 15: 50 New
    0
    Spaniard began in March, so either COVID is not distributed at 15+ Celsius because it is artificial, or we will have a global pandemic in the summer (because the virus can mutate) ...
    1. kpd
      kpd 28 March 2020 16: 24 New
      +2
      In Australia and South America, the virus is lurking now? And there is only the beginning of autumn.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 28 March 2020 18: 06 New
        -3
        Quote: kpd
        In Australia and South America, the virus is lurking now? And there is only the beginning of autumn.

        Quote: PSih2097
        so that or COVID does not apply at 15+ Celsius because it is artificial

        read the comment above ...
        Or you were left for a snack ....
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 28 March 2020 21: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: PSih2097
      Spaniard began in March, so either COVID is not distributed at 15+ Celsius because it’s artificial,

      Some people think that with a positive temperature and a dry climate, the virus will end, however, we'll see. hi
    3. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 29 March 2020 08: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: PSih2097
      either COVID does not apply at 15+ for the Purpose ...

      This rubbish dies at +76 C and above, something like this ...
  5. Mouse
    Mouse 28 March 2020 16: 01 New
    +2
    Italian medical experts are asking ahead of time not to declare victory over COVID-19.

    pralna ... haste is needed only ... well then you yourself know ... wink
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 28 March 2020 22: 11 New
      +4
      Mouse, you can’t imagine how careful they are now in everything: they are coughing up, but they continue to fight. They have to be careful, yes the rush is needed when fishing ...
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  7. Scipio
    Scipio 28 March 2020 16: 08 New
    +2
    As life shows, premature conclusions are rarely true. Time will tell
  8. knn54
    knn54 28 March 2020 16: 43 New
    0
    So predicted by WHO.
    Ranieri Guerru, Assistant Director General for Strategic Initiatives of the WHO: "Italy may reach its peak of the epidemic of the new coronavirus infection COVID-19 this week, after which it will decline."
  9. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 March 2020 16: 47 New
    +3
    Recall the story: Bubonic plague - It is believed that at first the plague raged in China in the 1320–1330s. In some areas, no more than 10% of the population remains. There were no airplanes, trains, steamboats or all-terrain vehicles, so the epidemic spread slowly over the years. After China, it was the turn of India, the Golden Horde, and finally Europe. In 1346, black death covered Italian cities, and in the next two years - all of Western Europe. Strange as it may seem, the infirmary was the worst place during the pandemic (from the Venetian island of Lazaretto, where people who died from the plague were buried). They dragged everyone there who had at least the slightest suspicion of the disease. And sometimes gangs of robbers forcibly brought rich citizens to the infirmary in order to freely manage their homes. According to historians, at least 25 million Europeans died from the bubonic plague. From 30 to 70% of the inhabitants of Western Europe became extinct. The plague reached both ON and Rus. Here are just reliable information about how the disease affected these territories, very little. Separate evidence has been preserved of rampant ailments in cities such as Smolensk, Pskov and Novgorod, that is, where there were more or less strong trade ties with western neighbors. There was also death, horror and other troubles. Nevertheless, the scale of the disaster for some reason was much less than in Western Europe. The pandemic began to fade when it reached Poland.
    1. Andobor
      Andobor 28 March 2020 17: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Separate evidence has remained of rampant ailments in cities such as Smolensk, Pskov and Novgorod, that is, where there were more or less strong trade ties with Western neighbors.

      - It is obvious that the rampant pandemic depends on population density.
    2. Snail N9
      Snail N9 28 March 2020 17: 15 New
      0
      Here, the specialist says where this virus came from:
      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 28 March 2020 20: 58 New
        -2
        Americans, what is sick on the head to poison themselves? Johnson, America’s closest ally, became infected; Merkel was quarantined; Trump was suspected.
        Remember, the prehistory of this statement, Trump said: "Chinese virus", but it hurts the Chinese and one of the Chinese said something like this: "We can also say that this virus is the development of an American schizophrenic," and then like a damaged phone.
        As you like, but my opinion: it is blasphemy to create a false authority on human misfortune!
        Chinese virology has repeatedly stated that the virus is of natural origin
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 28 March 2020 21: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: Astra wild
          Americans, what is sick on the head to poison themselves? Johnson, America’s closest ally, became infected; Merkel was quarantined; Trump was suspected.
          Remember, the prehistory of this statement, Trump said: "Chinese virus", but it hurts the Chinese and one of the Chinese said something like this: "We can also say that this virus is the development of an American schizophrenic," and then like a damaged phone.
          As you like, but my opinion: it is blasphemy to create a false authority on human misfortune!

          You can kiss your favorite "Americans" including Boris. bully
        2. businessv
          businessv 28 March 2020 23: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Astra wild
          Chinese virology has repeatedly stated that the virus is of natural origin

          And in your opinion, they should have said that they brought him out themselves, but did not keep track of his migration, and he went outside the F-4 laboratory, starting his life independent of the developers? You can declare anything, as well as express unlimited concern!
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 28 March 2020 21: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Snail N9
        Here, the specialist says where this virus came from:

        Which, in fact, was required to prove. wink
    3. evgen1221
      evgen1221 28 March 2020 17: 35 New
      0
      With links about the source of everything and everything from China, - (gunpowder, rockets, etc., etc.) I would recommend to be careful, because of the difficulties of the reverse translation, from English to China and vice versa, dates very often dance, which leads to incidents There is a known case when a Czech historian found (an ancient text) and translated from Chinese, something came out about an unknown dynasty, coup and other things. It was a success, according to his textbooks (many countries taught schools for many years). Later we figured out that the speech in ancient paper on hieroglyphs was about the war of red and white roses in the retelling of the ambassador to his ruler, Kanfuz hushed up Scientists AGREED that the document seemed to be completely physical. Imbued with the degree of interconnectedness of historical science. Read more with Bushkov on this occasion.
    4. Alexy
      Alexy 28 March 2020 21: 05 New
      0
      Well, what is the coronavirus pandemic compared to the bubonic plague pandemic ??? In a world with 7 billion people, less than 30 thousand people have died. In Italy, without any coronoviruses, 1700 people die every day. And from the flu in the world every year up to 650 thousand
  10. Thrifty
    Thrifty 28 March 2020 17: 11 New
    +1
    People are simply afraid to go out, sit at home, and so they began to be hospitalized less.
  11. NF68
    NF68 28 March 2020 17: 38 New
    +1
    I would like to believe that this is so. The death toll from a coronovirus in Italy has already reached 10.
  12. Prahlad
    Prahlad 28 March 2020 18: 44 New
    -1
    Well, yes, "passed" 900+ people died today
  13. Astra wild
    Astra wild 28 March 2020 20: 21 New
    0
    Quote: Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
    Have Russians declared quarantine in Russia? Or was they also sent to Italy?

    No announced carnival. Compared with Bulgaria or Estonia, where we have a lot of four hundred patients: 1036 yesterday's figure, and now, probably more. But when compared with tens of thousands in: Italy, Spain or America, this is not enough.
  14. Astra wild
    Astra wild 28 March 2020 20: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Dikson
    Old people with chronic sores are over ... God forgive me .. And the decline is because people were driven into quarantine ..

    Today in the news they said that 19, a woman and 102 men were cured of COVID101 in Italy
  15. sanik2020
    sanik2020 29 March 2020 11: 41 New
    0
    The Italian media suggested that the peak incidence of coronavirus in Italy passed

    Well, yes, the media always knows better than specialized specialists.