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How the panic fanned during the epidemics of recent years

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How the panic fanned during the epidemics of recent years

As long as humanity exists, it naturally suffers from it. At the same time, diseases periodically cover a fairly large number of the inhabitants of our planet, turning into epidemics and pandemics. It has long been known that such massive outbreaks are invariably accompanied by panic, hysteria, the spread of the most incredible rumors and predictions. It is worth recalling how such things happened during the latest invasions of viruses, which received the most widely publicized information in the world.


Let us dwell on the three most striking cases: epidemics of SARS or SARS, Ebola virus and swine flu H1N1. To begin with, we can distinguish a certain general scenario of escalating hysteria around all these diseases, which does not change from time to time.

In a certain "distant" country, a hotbed of infection suddenly arises, which they immediately begin to declare: they say that the disease "has no analogues", "doctors have never encountered anything like it," "it spreads fantastically fast," "it is deadly like never before" .

Subsequently, as a rule, it turns out that we are dealing with a slightly modified strain of the virus that has long been known to science, the mortality rate from which does not significantly exceed the lethality of ordinary seasonal flu, and the infectivity is exaggerated several times or even orders of magnitude. But the thing has already been done: the unhealthy in the most literal sense of the word interest in the world media audience has been aroused, the first seeds of panic have been sown.

No one will argue that SARS (SARS), which began to spread from China in 2002-2003, first to countries in Southeast Asia, and then around the world, was a dangerous disease. No wonder the World Health Organization sounded the alarm, warning of a possible pandemic (albeit somewhat belatedly). However, less than 9 thousand patients in 29 countries and 774 deaths ended up. At the same time, incredible passions reigned in the world: the apocalyptic predictions that a new ailment would mow almost half of humanity sounded every day. Especially terrible panic, by the way, reigned in China itself. Bats (which turned out to be a source of infection) were exterminated by tens of thousands, not sparing even some other representatives of the fauna under a hot hand. Throughout the world, the media wrote about "huge pits in which the celestial authorities secretly burn tens of thousands of corpses." In reality, of course, there was nothing of the kind.

In 2009, the swine flu arrived. His focus was identified in Mexico, which greatly strained the neighboring United States. The rest of the world, however, too. In this case, WHO did not announce the possibility of a pandemic, but its “fait accompli”. On the one hand, there were certain reasons for this: H1N1 had more than 250 million people, of whom more than 26 thousand died. However, after the hype raised to heaven, WHO officials faced a flurry of accusations of inflating fears and unfounded allegations of the magnitude and danger of the disease. In the end, as it turned out, the lethality of swine flu was no more than that of any other strain of this disease. The Germans were especially offended: the governments of their federal lands bought up almost 240 million euros of “miraculous vaccines,” which they then did not know what to do.

Subsequently, against WHO, which injected forecasts of a pandemic (one darker than the other) into horsepower into the information space, it was accused that all these calculations were born by analysts who supported pharmaceutical companies. Most of all they sinned at the Swiss pharmaceutical company Roche Holding AG, producing the drug Tamiflu. WHO recommended many countries to create “strategic reserves” of this drug. The claims were very serious and reasoned, supported by, for example, the British Medical Journal, as well as other authoritative publications and organizations. But somehow it worked out ...

A new wave of horror swept the world at the word Ebola. Another "super-illness", which, of course, "will kill us all." A particularly mysterious and gloomy halo of the virus was given to its African origin, and panic was aggravated by chilling stories of "eyewitnesses", intensely circulated by the media. Why didn’t they tell us about this disease! And the mortality rate from it is almost 100%, and it spreads faster than a forest fire, and of course it is “impossible” to cure it. It came to paranoid horror stories like stories that those who died from Ebola ... turn into zombies and attack people! It was, it was, and not only in the yellow press.

In Europe, the inflated people have reached such a limit that, for example, the French Ministry of Health was forced to open a “hot line”, where people of the country who were especially concerned about the nightmarish prospects of the pandemic could call to pour out their fears and simply “take an interest in the situation”. In the end, it turned out that this disease, with the exception of completely isolated cases, does not go beyond the "black continent", is not transmitted by airborne droplets, and generally does not have such a wide spread even in Africa itself. The reason for both high mortality and mass infection in a very definite number of regions is the extremely low level of sanitation and medical services. Mass extinction did not happen.

Do you know which, in my opinion, the most terrible of the consequences of all these waves of global panic, which invariably turned out to be either groundless or incredibly exaggerated? The very thing that is specifically described in the parable about the cowherd boy who screamed heart-rendingly: “Wolves!” In order to attract attention. When the predators really came, his screams simply ignored ... Perhaps if in the last couple of decades the world had been less frightened by the “deadly pandemic”, which in reality turned out to be not so deadly and not at all a pandemic, then at the beginning of this year he (the world) more quickly and efficiently respond to the emergence of a truly serious threat - COVID-19. What can you do now. It remains only to draw lessons for the future.
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  1. Frol
    Frol 28 March 2020 07: 15 New
    +8
    To begin with, we can distinguish a certain general scenario of escalating hysteria around all these diseases, which does not change from time to time.

    It was the preparation and testing of the "world community" .. Yes, and with the current coronavirus, they are also testing, but more seriously .. You want to collapse the economy and get fantastic profits. Run the virus (very cheaply and effectively) and the main thing is controlled media! Toldychat around the clock ..
    So everything is still ahead and the topic of the "golden billion" is not fake.
    1. Alena Frolovna
      Alena Frolovna 28 March 2020 11: 27 New
      12
      In my opinion, the worst thing is that almost all channels, publications and other "media" are mostly crammed with idiots, officials, madmen, "journalists", vampires, and the floor for real doctors, specialists, professors is negligible, or their opinion is ignored ...

      «You can come up with a lot of vaccines, but you can't come up with a vaccine against idiocy».
      German doctor
      1. Alexander Sosnitsky
        Alexander Sosnitsky 28 March 2020 12: 20 New
        0
        The last paragraph of the article is key. When a truly critical virus is released, it will be let through amid previous exaggerations that will be stronger than any weapon. And this is really possible. Therefore, it is better to retake. than not enough. I finally saw how the place would be freed up for 144 believers.
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 28 March 2020 12: 50 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Sosnitsky
          When a truly critical virus is released, it will be missed amid previous exaggerations,

          question why?
          I finally saw how the place would be freed up for 144 believers.

          From among 144000 I understand that you are operating with information from the New Testament.
          are there any additional facts / theories supporting your thesis?
          1. Alexander Sosnitsky
            Alexander Sosnitsky 28 March 2020 13: 39 New
            +2
            There is. And it's good that you found my note. This is known to anyone who needs it, and if not, then about 3 years ago a message appeared on the network (Rambler, it seems) a speech in the US Congress by the chief Shabad, who from memory said something like this: You are goyim. You will all die. .... Remain 14400. .... And so on until the end of the minutes 15. Congress applauded after each proposal. Standing up This is where there are no strangers from the family tree for less than a thousand years. Do not be lazy. Look for it. If you collect all the statements and photos and their theory and history, you will get proof. These are forces that did not spare their own in Poland and others, the Holocaust that was hanged on poor Germans, who also paid and are paying for it. Look at the composition of the Nazi government, where the Germans were only military mainly from Prussia, the military camps of which I personally saw in Koenigsberg and lived through the fence from them. Read the story of Hitler and look at his physiognomy, whether a simple soldier and schizophrenic can become the leader of a truly great nation. Before the 1st World War, all classical science was written in German, and then became in English. In the end, the German professors told me a lot from German Jews who were allowed into the camps because of their rebellion to sell everything and leave for Palestine in the 30s before Hitler. If they do this to their own, then what will they do to strangers? With you personally? Your descendants? The virus shows. And this is not a panic. The most interesting thing is really causally determined. Ivanes who do not remember kinship. And they are true believers.
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 28 March 2020 14: 00 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Sosnitsky
              There is. And it's good that you found my note. This is known to anyone who needs it, and if not, then somewhere around 3 years ago a message slipped on the network (Rambler, it seems)

              It would be nice to get the link.
              1. Who is Shabad?
              2, this is the number of Christian writings on the subject of apocalypses about Jews who will accept
              Christ, etc. it’s not entirely clear how you link these topics together.
              1. Alexander Sosnitsky
                Alexander Sosnitsky 28 March 2020 14: 13 New
                +1
                Chabad (various pronunciation and entry in Russian) https://eleven.co.il/judaism-trends/hasidism/14385/
                1. Maki Avellevich
                  Maki Avellevich 28 March 2020 14: 15 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Sosnitsky
                  Chabad (various pronunciation and entry in Russian) https://eleven.co.il/judaism-trends/hasidism/14385/

                  I know Chabad, I myself am a Jew.
                  school friend with them. Jewish sect. they tell everyone anything but I personally do not suspect them of world intrigues. till.
                  and a link to the video that intrigued you can?
                  1. Alexander Sosnitsky
                    Alexander Sosnitsky 28 March 2020 14: 21 New
                    +2
                    I answered everything. I don’t know what a Jew is, I haven’t met. I also note that practically everyone has Jewish roots, since they organized the tsarist dynasties of many peoples, including the Khazars (I suggest looking at the chufut kale near Bakhchisarai, a Karaite village, for example for Arabs). Now it is all over the world. Chabad is a difficult sect, it is especially represented in Congress, which is not allowed to go there. Recall Yeltsin’s famous speech with a keynote address, which was given only a few minutes, where he said everything about Russia. It was an oath with the known consequences that would be sprinkled for a very, very long time if sprinkled
                2. Alexander Sosnitsky
                  Alexander Sosnitsky 28 March 2020 14: 16 New
                  +1
                  The interpretation for Russians and Jews is naturally different. Where there are people, keep in mind - the faithful. Moreover, I am not in the least anti-Semitic and exclusively relate to this nation. I believe that the victim is to blame, to a greater extent than the criminal. We are talking about organized crime, which is in all nations. She’s just the most advanced. I have many Jewish friends too, I studied in the Jewish class. Moreover, I am for Jewish nationalism, everyone has the right and even duty to do so.
        2. flicker
          flicker 28 March 2020 17: 03 New
          +2
          When a truly critical virus is released, it will be let through amid previous exaggerations that will be stronger than any weapon. And this is really possible. Therefore, it is better to retake. than not enough.
          A "critical" virus will be released anyway when they are not ready for it. That is why it will be critical.
          If we try to "overdo it", we will be harassed by these viruses, and sooner or later we will not be able to cope with it.
          In general, if we wait and react, we will definitely skip the "critical" one.
          Therefore, it makes sense to react a couple of times, and for the third time to crack something else ourselves.
          1. Alexander Sosnitsky
            Alexander Sosnitsky 28 March 2020 17: 42 New
            +1
            I agree, but not in a criminal way. Because crime will disappear in the end, and the strong must learn how to hold the blow. So the nature is arranged and there are no options. Or people will disappear, or they will survive. Lies cannot conquer the truth. What is the strength, brother ... But it is necessary to crush, all crime. but honestly. Then everyone will follow this. This is the most superweapon. Through the thorns to the stars. Life is torment. All through suffering is the wisdom of the ancients. They know. All through patience and wisdom.
            1. flicker
              flicker 28 March 2020 19: 01 New
              +1
              Lies cannot conquer the truth. What is the strength in, brother ...
              I agree.
              Only the first sentence would have corrected a little: in the end, the truth will win.
              Because in some cases, lies can triumph, but it is these local victories of lies that, as a result, fill the truth with power, which conquers. yes
      2. Alf
        Alf 28 March 2020 16: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Alena Frolovna
        "You can come up with a lot of vaccines, but you can't come up with a vaccine against idiocy."
        German doctor

        "The country needs heroes, but ... the organ gives birth to du ... bucks."
      3. NF68
        NF68 28 March 2020 18: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Alena Frolovna
        In my opinion, the worst thing is that almost all channels, publications and other "media" are mostly crammed with idiots, officials, madmen, "journalists", vampires, and the floor for real doctors, specialists, professors is negligible, or their opinion is ignored ...

        «You can come up with a lot of vaccines, but you can't come up with a vaccine against idiocy».
        German doctor


        These are not very bad at this make money. Therefore, they are not so.
      4. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 30 March 2020 18: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Alena Frolovna
        In my opinion, the worst thing is that almost all channels, publications and other "media" are mostly crammed with idiots, officials, madmen, "journalists", vampires, and the floor for real doctors, specialists, professors is negligible, or their opinion is ignored ...

  2. bondrostov
    bondrostov 28 March 2020 07: 20 New
    +7
    From all these quarantines, the damage to the economy will be tens of times more than from the virus! I understand that it’s scary, but from the mass unemployment and the fact that people will live simply there’s nothing for nothing, not scary? Think!
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 28 March 2020 07: 46 New
      +3
      From all these quarantines, the damage to the economy will be tens of times more than from the virus!
      Yes, but all analysts, for some reason, share the Chinese flu and the growth of the dollar, but here the effects are superimposed. Everyone writes about the flu, but that's not why people are being cut back. Yes, many enterprises were closed under the guise of quarantine. Some after that, will not be able to continue to work.
      1. Constructor68
        Constructor68 28 March 2020 08: 07 New
        +6
        Fools always see secret intent in epidemiological prevention. The smart ones just happen WHAT the doctors say, who struggle with this disaster every day. A million fools who claim that the epidemic is a bloated hysteria will not be overshadowed by an interview with the head of the hospital, who with red eyes insomnia says that due to lack of treatment, his patients die right in the hospital corridors. And because of the crowded morgue, the dead are stacked in refrigerated trucks. Whom do I believe more - to hyping fools from the couch or to a doctor who every day gives all his strength to fighting the infection?
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 28 March 2020 08: 17 New
          +7
          that due to the lack of treatment, his patients die right in the hospital corridors. And because of the crowded morgue, the dead are stacked in refrigerated trucks
          this is hype. And then your message should be expressed to Mr. Haraluzhny, and not to me. I did not say anything about a bloated tantrum. I only said that the effect of quarantine and the growing dollar is increasing.
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 28 March 2020 08: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: Designer 68
          Fools always see secret intent in epidemiological prevention.

          In 2019, the Ministry of Health announced that the number of cases of tuberculosis decreased by 2018% compared to 15, and among children by more than 20%. On another page of the same website of the Ministry of Health, they regretfully admit that every year the number of refuseniks from BCG vaccination is growing. So you’re kind of called a designer, your logical thinking should be developed, so please tell me what the logic is - there are more refuseniks, the incidence is falling. Shouldn't it be the other way around? wink
          1. Constructor68
            Constructor68 28 March 2020 10: 31 New
            +4
            I'm not going to prove anything either to you or to your like-minded people in the circle of flat Earth believers. It is customary for your brethren to argue for the sake of argument. Arguing with you is like fucking stupid. Live how you want. The only problem is that the fools from this friendly community shouting "we all give a fuck" are becoming the main culprit in the spread of the epidemic. Which could otherwise be quickly localized and saved the lives of many, many people
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 28 March 2020 20: 52 New
              +2
              Quote: Designer 68
              nor to your like-minded circle of believers in a flat Earth.

              A qualitative argument from the one who called himself a designer, and accordingly by profession should think logically. good
              Directly, in essence, as usual, the Kremlin trolls with secondary technical education have no arguments. wink
              1. Constructor68
                Constructor68 29 March 2020 07: 08 New
                -2
                Directly, in essence, as usual, the Kremlin trolls with secondary technical education have no arguments

                This is an ordinary reluctance to argue with fools. It is useless to convince a fool of what, he has not formed the ability to determine cause-effect relationships, he does not know how to accumulate experience and on the basis of it to predict the probability of an event. Surely some of you know how to very beautifully deliver very poor messages to contain ...
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 28 March 2020 13: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            more refuseniks, the incidence is falling. Shouldn't it be the other way around?

            Should not.
            First, BCG is a so-so vaccine, look at the WHO website.
            Secondly, it is not the only and not at all the main factor. Rather, you should pay attention to the number of X-rays and Mantoux tests done.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 28 March 2020 21: 32 New
              -1
              Quote: Spade
              First, BCG is a so-so vaccine, look at the WHO website.

              The main reason, I agree.
              Quote: Spade
              Rather, you should pay attention to the number of X-rays and Mantoux tests done.

              This is control, and it’s dangerous. Mantoux is an allergic breakdown, but at the same time, any allergist will say that an allergy as a disease is acquired during the first allergic reaction. I’m allergic, and specific, but only one of my children, who were regularly given manti, has an allergy. This is the introduction of a potentially dangerous drug into the body of a child. X-ray is the same dangerous, and the WHO and the Ministry of Health recognize this. I am not opposed to the control of morbidity, but without invasive intervention. T-spot is the only safe control method, but it is not in the MHI. I myself do flura regularly, but I don’t want to shine the children.
              The main reason for the spread of tuberculosis is social, and all doctors know about it. My former boss lived with a man with an open form of tuberculosis. Banal measures are just needed, such as not drinking from the same dishes. hi
        3. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 28 March 2020 08: 56 New
          +2
          Silly people who think, and smart ones - who believe in hype news .. they said a lot ..
          Perhaps you are not aware that a talented journalist from a story about a spider can create a "mimic" story, and maybe about the mortal danger of a bite to cause anxiety in the audience?
          Why do people have doubts at all? maybe not baseless?
          However, I have already talked on the site with those who "we are all going to die" .. for facts and figures comparable to other years and flu in mortality, they say "you are all lying", and then merge .. Because to believe in the end of the world numbers get in the way ..
          1. Constructor68
            Constructor68 28 March 2020 10: 36 New
            +5
            Hype news? In what place do you have the body processing the information and drawing conclusions? You can see when you sit down, then clearly pinch your thought process. How can you use the hype and lies to call the words of the CHIEF DOCTOR of the hospital, which every day to deal with the consequences of the epidemic?
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 28 March 2020 14: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Designer 68
              Hype news? In what place do you have the body processing the information and drawing conclusions? You can see when you sit down, then clearly pinch your thought process. How can you use the hype and lies to call the words of the CHIEF DOCTOR of the hospital, which every day to deal with the consequences of the epidemic?


              You’re just a nice person, judging by the sayings, they are close to panic and consequently sober-mindedness suffers .. why did I say about journalists? did not think ..
              Then I’ll write directly - any news brings the effect that the journalist is trying to create to the best of his abilities .. I didn’t say anything about the head doctor, I said about the presentation of the situation, it’s hype .. Comrades are talking about that, but you don’t seem to understand what are you talking about ..

              Example. When there was a peak in China, there were also trucks of corpses, 3 corpses of a child in a bag, falling people, hundreds of convulsing patients and other hype (aimed at causing panic) news .. I saw these videos myself .. And at first they really strained me ..
              In the end, what is the end of the epidemic? Did all of China die? All? At all? or all the same 3,4 percent death rate in the end? By the way, there, too, at the beginning up to 30 percent mortality reached ..
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 28 March 2020 21: 40 New
                +3
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                or all the same 3,4 percent death rate in the end?

                Moreover, the paradox of the situation is that mortality is counted from the total number of cases, and how many were ill on their feet? Not. of course, if an unaccounted sick person died, he will be recorded as a victim of the virus, but if he recovers, he will not be reflected in the statistics. Here is such a "error" for those who know how to think and count. drinks
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 28 March 2020 22: 33 New
                  +1
                  Igor, how nice that people who think are in this theater of the absurd .. hi
              2. Constructor68
                Constructor68 29 March 2020 07: 03 New
                0
                Just you are a nice person, judging by the sayings, are close to panic and therefore sober-mindedness suffers ..

                Balabol, what is panic and how to deal with it I went back in February 1987, the year I first got into combat as part of the 101msp reconnaissance. And the panic then was such that already legs were bent.
                And now I just understand that there are risks. These risks must be considered. And only empty-headed trepaki can not take them seriously.
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 29 March 2020 08: 00 New
                  +1
                  And what are you all trying to call me like that? Do you think I will be offended?) The fighting has nothing to do with it, there really is something to panic about and there it is normal .. You know, your "And now I just understand that there are risks. These risks must be taken into account. And only empty-headed chatters. "
                  This, for me, is already an adequate comment .. I myself think so, because if not for health, then material problems will be serious, for almost everyone in this world, for anyone, because of this macaronovirus .. so no one really and does not consider the situation as garbage, just look at it from a different angle ..
        4. flicker
          flicker 28 March 2020 11: 24 New
          -2
          the hospital’s chief physician, who with red eyes insomnia says that due to lack of treatment, his patients die right in the hospital corridors. And because of the crowded morgue, the dead are stacked in refrigerated trucks.
          Yes, in the USA, in particular in New York, corpses are piled up and taken out by trucks, according to the media. But how many of these geldings were swarming with their medicine. A virus test in the United States costs several hundred dollars and reaches $ 3500.
          Plus corpses are taken out by trucks.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 28 March 2020 11: 40 New
            +1
            Quote: flicker
            But how many of these geldings boasted of their medicine.

            hi
            Yes, the situation in the states is awful to such an extent that the "exceptional showman" had to step on the throat of his selfishness and turn to China for help, which he recently declared an enemy.
        5. dauria
          dauria 28 March 2020 12: 18 New
          +3
          Whom do I believe more - to hyping fools from the couch or to a doctor who every day gives all his strength to fighting the infection?


          Throw a coin - the surest way. Both "a doctor with a bunch of dying people" and "bullshit, flu like the flu" are a PRODUCT. Yes, a common informational product offered to a buyer. Payment - by the number of views and the price of the ad space. From here and dance. And the article itself is also a product. Money for the author, for the site - visitors and money for advertising. Capitalism, it's okay. You and I will find out about the real end of the world for free, do not worry. But the media is such a business that even with a nuclear explosion, the first question will be "Did you manage to shoot? !!!"
          1. Constructor68
            Constructor68 28 March 2020 12: 33 New
            -2
            Do not write nonsense. What is the difference HOW the information got to me - from TV, a video on the Internet, or did I see it with my own eyes ??? The main thing is this fact. You are here like old gossips at the entrance discussing the shell, without delving into the content. The simple idea does not come into your head that with epidemics, massive propaganda is just of great benefit. It is the only way to reach out to people who need to immediately observe precautions. And boobies screaming about conspiracy and panic on the contrary harm it.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 28 March 2020 13: 16 New
              +4
              Quote: Designer 68
              What is the difference HOW the information got to me - from TV, a video on the Internet, or did I see it with my own eyes ???


              No difference. In all cases mentioned by you, the information will not fully reflect reality. Even in the version "with your own eyes"

              Quote: Designer 68
              The simple idea does not come into your head that with epidemics, massive propaganda is just of great benefit.

              Is not a fact. For example, the Soviet experience of concealing facts did not bring negative results.
              1. Constructor68
                Constructor68 28 March 2020 13: 22 New
                +2
                The Soviet experience of hiding information was of a different nature. In the USSR, everything ended safely only because it was possible to locate the problem in time. But the example of concealment is very revealing during the Chernobyl disaster. Is not it so?
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 28 March 2020 13: 34 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Designer 68
                  The Soviet experience of hiding information was of a different nature.

                  Who cares what nature is.

                  Quote: Designer 68
                  But the example of concealment is very revealing during the Chernobyl disaster. Is not it so?

                  Great example. Only by hiding information was it possible to carry out the evacuation of the population without any panic.
                  1. Constructor68
                    Constructor68 28 March 2020 13: 44 New
                    -3
                    What nonsense. Perhaps evacuation panics could have been avoided, but do you also consider a justifiable act to conceal information from the population of several regions about the threat of radioactive contamination and ways to reduce its influence?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 28 March 2020 13: 49 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Designer 68
                      Panic during the evacuation and possibly avoided

                      Q.E.D...

                      Quote: Designer 68
                      but hiding information from the population of several regions about the threat of radioactive contamination

                      And what would it give?
                      1. Constructor68
                        Constructor68 28 March 2020 13: 53 New
                        0
                        And what would it give?

                        All clear
            2. flicker
              flicker 28 March 2020 13: 26 New
              +4
              in epidemics, massive propaganda is of great benefit.
              Not massive, proportionate. The medicine for the poison is different in dosage.
              1. Constructor68
                Constructor68 28 March 2020 13: 46 New
                0
                It is massive. So that it does not become poison, the correct supply is important. An incorrectly formed message will cause unnecessary panic or plunge the population into shock. And the right one - mobilizes him
            3. dauria
              dauria 28 March 2020 13: 46 New
              +2
              The simple idea does not come into your head that with epidemics, massive propaganda is just of great benefit.

              And here the harm is good. You were told the reason for this kind of information - money. You know how much was in the newspapers about the Titanic - drowned, everyone died, swims, everyone was saved, will sail in a day, again drowned. Who helped? Only newspaper publishers.
              So while "TASS is authorized to declare .." I will not hear - "I do not care about all the" informants. "
              And the real situation is with numbers, graphs, a comparative analysis with past cases, scientific reports, and so on. Yes, people will not figure it out, will fall asleep on the first page, and objective impartial information will not listen.
              1. Constructor68
                Constructor68 28 March 2020 13: 51 New
                -3
                Who helped? Only newspaper publishers.

                So what? The media has always fed on human troubles. But in this case, the severity of the problem corresponds to the level at which it is heard.
            4. Jager
              Jager 31 March 2020 20: 36 New
              0
              Who cares what the media say. Personally, I quit watching TV and the Internet, and only read about the virus on the official mosreg.ru portal. Our media do not even bother themselves with this, but provide information "from Twitter".
              It is time to introduce the institution of political commissars.
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 28 March 2020 09: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: bondrostov
      I understand that it’s scary, but from the mass unemployment and the fact that people will live simply there’s nothing for nothing, not scary? Think!

      Is work necessary if not ... life? Think about it ...

      The life of EVERY person is the highest value.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 March 2020 11: 54 New
      0
      Quote: bondrostov

      From all these quarantines, the damage to the economy will be tens of times more than from the virus!

      This will especially affect small enterprises, they will go bankrupt in a month.
      1. bondrostov
        bondrostov 28 March 2020 13: 09 New
        0
        For me, it’s just not anyone who didn’t understand what could be further not about the massive possible unemployment either .. in general we’ll see
    4. Constructor68
      Constructor68 28 March 2020 12: 43 New
      0
      From all these quarantines, the damage to the economy will be tens of times more than from the virus! I understand that it’s scary, but from the mass unemployment and the fact that people will live simply there’s nothing for nothing, not scary? Think!

      Yes, in Italy, the economy will just start to flourish if quarantine is lifted. It seems to me that some brain coronovirus has already happened.
      1. bondrostov
        bondrostov 28 March 2020 13: 07 New
        +3
        The designer a chance to die from a coronavirus with a probability of 3-5% is personally better for me than how I am sitting without work and the devil knows when I can earn money and I have a family that needs to be fed!
        1. Constructor68
          Constructor68 28 March 2020 13: 17 New
          +1
          If you are not the owner of a grocery store, an undertaker or a manufacturer of devices for intubating the lungs, will quarantine removal help you? I also don’t like quarantine. But I understand that without him, in a month, a fucking Arctic fox will start around me. And I, far from young, do not want to die in any way. Even take the odds. And about 3% - when will your sanity turn on like that? A low mortality threshold is possible only under one condition - timely and complete treatment. With a mass epidemic this will not happen - do not expect it. In Italy, this ratio is 3 higher. In the US, it will probably be even cooler
          1. bondrostov
            bondrostov 28 March 2020 13: 21 New
            -2
            In the first I didn’t drink with you on brodenshaft. Secondly, the fact that this non-working week is far from the last is likely to be understood by anyone! Personally, I don’t WHO will pay for it if I start the right to download me, the boss will send me to a well-known address (I have piecework) so can you feed me so right? Something I'm getting stuck!
            1. Constructor68
              Constructor68 28 March 2020 13: 29 New
              +2
              I would hardly agree to a brudershaft with you. And I don’t see a reason to pay you. Do not whine. The whole country is in this position. An epidemic is akin to a state of war. Imagine if in 1941, when transferring the economy to martial law, you would begin to whine about your pocket, about your deprivations ...
              1. bondrostov
                bondrostov 28 March 2020 13: 33 New
                +2
                I do not whine. And do not compare with the war, this virus does not threaten the death of the country like Nazism! Measures of struggle should certainly be, but not to the point of madness, as in Italy, to sit at home and leave only with a discharge and the beginning of the Criminal Code. This is already in my mind fierce nonsense.
                1. Constructor68
                  Constructor68 28 March 2020 14: 00 New
                  -1
                  Fierce nonsense? With this "fierce delirium", China managed to localize the epidemic center in time. The Italians just failed to do this, because at first they behaved exactly like you - they did not care about the risks and threats.
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 28 March 2020 13: 45 New
                +1
                Quote: Designer 68
                Imagine if in 1941, when transferring the economy to martial law, you would begin to whine about your pocket, about your deprivations ...

                The meeting of the military tribunal for three minutes, the announcement of the verdict and at the expense of alarmism.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 28 March 2020 16: 44 New
                  +2
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  The meeting of the military tribunal for three minutes, the announcement of the verdict and at the expense of alarmism.
                  At the nearest wall.
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 28 March 2020 17: 03 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alf
                    At the nearest wall.

                    Without a wall (there weren’t always walls in the battlefield), right where it was.
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 28 March 2020 17: 04 New
                      +1
                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      Quote: Alf
                      At the nearest wall.

                      Without a wall (there weren’t always walls in the battlefield), right where it was.

                      Or like this.
            2. Alf
              Alf 28 March 2020 16: 43 New
              +1
              Quote: bondrostov
              Personally, I don’t WHO will pay for it if I start the right to download me, the head will send me to a known address (I have piecework)

              Yesterday an order was issued to PJSC Kuznetsov-a week everyone is sitting at home with payment on AVERAGE.
              In work for the state, in addition to the minuses, there are pluses.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 28 March 2020 17: 08 New
                +1
                Quote: Alf
                Yesterday an order was issued to PJSC Kuznetsov-a week everyone is sitting at home with payment on AVERAGE.

                This is the normal understanding of the situation. People see that they are taken care of, and not left to their own devices.
                1. bondrostov
                  bondrostov 28 March 2020 17: 23 New
                  +1
                  But they cannot all work for the state. And you know very well that the official ... well, I am 8 t. R. Pay ... and so almost everyone ..
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 28 March 2020 17: 27 New
                    0
                    Quote: bondrostov
                    But they cannot all work for the state.

                    Do I argue? It is what it is. Do you really get eight million paid? May I come to you? laughing
                    1. bondrostov
                      bondrostov 28 March 2020 17: 30 New
                      +2
                      8 tr officially so in idle time I will not deny myself anything.
              2. bondrostov
                bondrostov 28 March 2020 17: 19 New
                +2
                But I work for a private trader and he can’t pay me since he himself won’t work. And alarmists are just those who scream that we all will die from prastudy in fact!
    5. Malyuta
      Malyuta 28 March 2020 12: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: bondrostov
      From all these quarantines, the damage to the economy will be tens of times more than from the virus!

      Panic is causing harm to the economy. Panic is an indicator of people's attitude to power and to their economic and domestic policies.
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        1. bondrostov
          bondrostov 28 March 2020 13: 28 New
          +2
          It’s not the power now. then we’ll have time to mock here, we’re doing everything here all the time .. I’m talking about the fact that it’s impossible to ruin the country's economy because of this infection and, accordingly, the people who receive the blog and the loss may be more than from any karanovirus in the place with the i-ball combined.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 March 2020 17: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Designer 68
          Panic, "smart guy", is an uncontrollable manifestation of fear caused by a deep reflex of self-preservation.

          Inspired by the media and various agents and liberals. Virus and quarantine is a necessity for survivaland panic is her enemy. All this the country has passed since 1941, but then the alarmists were calculated "According to the laws of wartime."
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 March 2020 13: 49 New
        +4
        Quote: Malyuta
        Panic is an indicator of people's attitude to power and to their economic and domestic policies.

        This means when during the war they were draped, it means in your opinion it was an indicator of people to power. Well, Comrade Stalin, by Order 227, very quickly and effectively lowered this figure.
    6. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 28 March 2020 15: 21 New
      +1
      you stand on the Anglo-Saxon platform Russia so far on a Chinese basis of quarantine and this basis so far gives more effective results (of course German medicine is probably the best in the world)
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 March 2020 17: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Ryaruav
        Russia is still on the Chinese basis of quarantine and this basis so far gives more effective results

        And this is no doubt correct. Remember "The plague cannot be defeated, it can only be isolate
  3. lwxx
    lwxx 28 March 2020 07: 22 New
    +1
    Mikhail Shchelkanov, Head of the Laboratory of Ecology of Microorganisms, School of Biomedicine, FEFU. Back in July 2019, he told how events will develop according to the next infection. He talks about the pandemic and the methods adopted in the countries very interestingly. Who cares - A cool story with T. Mitkova.https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = oxaObMwPC2g
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 March 2020 17: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: lwxx
      He talks about the pandemic and the methods adopted in the countries very interestingly.

      Remember or read, and many remember the recent past. In 1970, a significant part of the territory of the USSR was covered by an epidemic of cholera of the El Tor biotype. The anthrax epidemic in Sverdlovsk is an outbreak of anthrax diseases that occurred in Sverdlovsk (now Yekaterinburg) in 1979. From 1920 to 1989, 3639 people fell ill with the plague, 2060 became victims. And they coped with such terrible diseases, especially with the lethality of the plague, look at the numbers. And think that the black death in the USSR returned with frightening regularity: 1921, 1939, 1945-1949, 1970, 1972, 1975, 1980, 1981. In the USSR they knew that it was incurable, but they learned how to fight. Quarantine, while there is no more effective remedy anywhere in the world. What do you think in the USSR, in every house there was a radio point in case of war NO and "Civil Defense" also in case of war? NO. This is more in case of epidemic threats. Maybe I'm wrong ???
      1. depressant
        depressant 28 March 2020 19: 23 New
        +2
        By the way, colleague, I will add. I won't say for anthrax, but El Tor cholera and other types of cholera, as well as outbreaks of plague in the USSR, as it became known much later, had their roots in China. Still, the infection came from there. But for political reasons, this was not disclosed. Rumor has it that even the famous "Spanish woman" hails from China, but got to Europe in a roundabout way and got its name because the Spanish press talked about her a lot and openly. Other countries were silent - military action.
        And now, as you recall about China, and for obvious reasons you often have to remember, it’s so easy to take a rash - when will they finally stop eating all sorts of nasty things? Well, for a long time there is no hunger! What kind of people ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 March 2020 21: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: depressant
          And now, as you recall about China, and for obvious reasons you often have to remember, it’s so easy to take a rash - when will they finally stop eating all sorts of nasty things?

          Maybe something is true, but I was born on the border. Where is China and where is Russia.
          1. depressant
            depressant 29 March 2020 06: 40 New
            +1
            And I almost lived on the border with China in my childhood))
            Far East. Military unit in Manzovka. Unforgettable nature! It was. I can’t imagine how it is now. Ah, time! .. Then I was just afraid of the dark ((
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 March 2020 11: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: depressant
              Far East. Military unit in Manzovka. Unforgettable nature!
              I was born in Haranor, here there are only hills of sand constantly on my teeth, then I moved to my grandfather in a village near the Nerchinsky mine, there nature is beauty. I haven’t been there for a long time.
              1. depressant
                depressant 29 March 2020 11: 50 New
                +1
                Among the hills I happened to live in Chukotka. From one and a half years to seven. There, too - a wonderful place, clean air, sweet shiksha, friendship with likes with a complete lack of parental supervision. This was the only place where I had never been ill and was truly happy.
                That's how it goes.
                And here, many, many years later, - the coronavirus. I sit at home, am sick of dizziness when trying to lie down on my left side, I write in VO, and life is in full swing outside the window. For more than a year she did not boil, there was a heavy suffocating gloom, and now she suddenly boiled. Children are playing, parents are walking with the kids, flocks of laughing young people are laughing merrily, those who haven’t taken anything there in the previous days drag in bags. As if life was born and broke through the shell - here I am, hello, peace, hello, spring sun! But masks have already appeared on the faces of some people.
  4. Barakuda
    Barakuda 28 March 2020 08: 04 New
    -9
    Perhaps if in the last couple of decades the world had been less frightened by the “deadly pandemic”, which in reality turned out to be not so deadly and not at all a pandemic

    This is the business of global corporations! Estimate what profits they suck from the world economy of world countries ..
    On some masks, etc. billions in profits in just a month .. And on stocks and other Dow Jonesans (who's in the topic) there at all ....
    Beautiful operation and most importantly it is not clear who is to blame! Perhaps Russia will be blamed. As usual .. Gold and foreign exchange reserves in Russia are a bold piece .. And it would be necessary to take away before Putin let everything go to the social network ..
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 29 March 2020 09: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Barakuda
      Gold and foreign exchange reserves in Russia is a bold piece .. And it would be necessary to take away until Putin put everything on a social network ..


      5th place in the world in gold reserves, Russia - 2207 tons, so the piece is really good. In the first place the USA - 8133,5 tons, then Germany - 3367,9 tons, Italy - 2451,8 tons, France - 2436, we - 2207, China - 1916,3 tons. These statistics are purely for gold, but for foreign exchange reserves and other investments there is a different picture.
  5. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 28 March 2020 08: 21 New
    0
    I completely agree with the author. anyone who raises such topics immediately becomes an object of ridicule as a supporter of conspiracy theory. Moreover, as a rule, without discussing the essence, they simply stick labels.
    In addition to the buildup of various pandemics, WHO is also rocking the topic of general vaccination. Although they were caught by the hand on the fact that they are working to reduce the birth rate. In Latin America, WHO specialists were vaccinated against tetanus, a side effect of which was infertility. And the vaccine was given mainly to women of childbearing age. When the union of Catholics turned to scientists, and scientists confirmed the suspicions, WHO quickly curtailed the program, and the scandal was hushed up.
    The situation is similar with the flu, they panic almost from scratch, the mortality rate from different strains of the flu does not exceed the norm. But the media trumpet the death toll. Still in a row laid out all the corpses for clarity.
    I recommend to all thinking people to compare the facts and find out who made the profit during the epidemic. I think the "winners" will be the same as now, as during other epidemics.
    1. mole
      mole 28 March 2020 12: 24 New
      0
      Ingvar 72 completely agree with you. The cream will remove those who are in the subject.
    2. flicker
      flicker 28 March 2020 13: 23 New
      +2
      I recommend comparing the facts and find out who made a profit during the epidemic.

      Well, just in time WWII someone made a huge profit, and the war was real and the deaths were real.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 28 March 2020 20: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: flicker
        Well, and on time WWII someone made a profit and a huge

        I recommend reading the two-volume Henry Ford. There directly, in numbers, the beneficiaries of PMV are indicated. Everything was the same in WWII. Beneficiaries do not care about life, mine, yours, and the lives of your children. Think about it. And this is not a joke.
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 28 March 2020 08: 44 New
    +1
    How the panic fanned during the epidemics of recent years

    During this time, it is more useful to determine where all this infection comes from. It seems to me that there is some truth in this project:
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 28 March 2020 09: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      It seems to me that there is some truth in this project:

      Yes, REN TV often provides true information in a compartment with complete nonsense. It seems more like the truth here.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 March 2020 17: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Yes, REN TV often provides true information in a compartment with complete nonsense. It seems more like the truth here.

        I agree with that.
  7. BAI
    BAI 28 March 2020 09: 28 New
    +1
    1.
    Bats (which turned out to be a source of infection) were exterminated by tens of thousands,
    Not everyone was apparently killed.
    2.
    H1N1 has been ill for more than 250 million people, of which more than 26 thousand have died.

    Where did such passions come from?
    There were only 1 laboratory-confirmed deaths from H1N09pdm18.

    - everything else is an analogue of the millions executed under Stalin: speculation, conjecture, speculation.
    3. It is impossible not to quote:
    Lukashenko:
    Let's be frank, how long have we stopped crowing about bird flu? "Crowed" the whole world. Probably all (medicines) have already been sold. Today squeal like a pig. And tomorrow, probably, we purr or shut up. Don’t you understand what’s going on?

    German politician Wolfgang Wodarg:
    there was no pandemic; WHO and pharmaceutical concerns are manipulating public opinion to increase sales of their medicines. In the same place, he argued that pharmaceutical concerns made about $ 18 billion profit on the Swine Flu brand.


    4.
    A new wave of horror swept the world at the word Ebola.

    It should be noted that the spread of the disease stopped when the local population killed the "doctors" who came in large numbers, who did not treat, but spread the disease.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 28 March 2020 09: 36 New
      -2
      Quote: BAI
      3. It is impossible not to quote:
      Lukashenko:

      For all his eccentricities, he says and does the right thing.
      Quote: BAI
      the local population killed the "doctors" who had come in large numbers, who did not treat, but spread the disease.

      Looks like a call! wassat bully
  8. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 28 March 2020 11: 07 New
    +5
    Exactly a month ago, in Italy there were 1128 cases, and yesterday - 86 with 498 who died.
    Under your window, almost every two days, the number of cases doubles.
    My dear fellow-earthlings, tell me what else needs to happen for you to finally believe that COVID-19 is not just another habitual flu, not a fake, rumors not spread by some "fifth column" to create panic, etc.?
    1. Linxs
      Linxs 28 March 2020 11: 26 New
      +9
      It seems that the President himself turned to the people and asked to turn his head on, but not. Do not believe.

      This is such a sect, which until it sees 5 corpses carrying out from its entrance will still say:
      - So these 5 pensioners for 40 years suffered from other diseases and just coincided that they died of pneumonia.
      1. Sergey Zhikharev
        Sergey Zhikharev 28 March 2020 13: 59 New
        +1
        Last week in my Khrushchev 3 people died.
        How can I leave a heretical sect denying the danger of an epidemic or admit that the sect is right and all three died from other causes (one precisely from a stroke)
    2. Constructor68
      Constructor68 28 March 2020 12: 50 New
      +3
      A society of believers in a flat Earth (like S. King) will never want to give up positions. Probably only when they themselves will wallow in the emergency room, and the means of resuscitation will not be enough for them
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 March 2020 17: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      My dear fellow-earthlings, tell me what else needs to happen for you to finally believe that COVID-19 is not just another habitual flu, not a fake, rumors not spread by some "fifth column" to create panic, etc.?

      This is reality, and it must be fought. But while there is one way out, it is to reduce the spread of the virus, and there is only one way out, quarantine and hygiene. Well, we’ll sit at home, and we’ll talk less with friends and friends, it’s better to sit at home with our family. Of course it’s expensive in the family budget, but it costs all of us life. But we have already experienced a lot of things, and we will survive, therefore there is more optimism and good spirits. Well, we русские, we are not used to anything, and we will get used to the "karona". Respectfully to all of us "Tikhonmarine".
    4. Tank hard
      Tank hard 28 March 2020 22: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Exactly a month ago, in Italy there were 1128 cases, and yesterday - 86 with 498 who died.
      Under your window, almost every two days, the number of cases doubles.
      My dear fellow-earthlings, tell me what else needs to happen for you to finally believe that COVID-19 is not just another habitual flu, not a fake, rumors not spread by some "fifth column" to create panic, etc.?

      This, of course, is not fake. But it is not yet clear that this is a BP. There are different opinions, here is one of ..:
  9. Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 28 March 2020 11: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    the local population killed the "doctors" who had come in large numbers, who did not treat, but spread the disease.

    Is this a call to the Italians to kill our doctors, that they came to help them?
  10. Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 28 March 2020 11: 24 New
    +4
    Kharaluzhny has all the articles in one tone, they say, calmly citizens, do not worry, everything is under control, in general, in the style of "everything is fine, beautiful marquis."
    Nevertheless, here is the data from the network for today: "The coronavirus pandemic has already claimed the lives of more than 25 thousand people in the world, Europe has suffered the most, where 17 314 cases have died. The day before, the United States overtook China in the number of coronavirus infected (on Friday, the number of cases in the United States exceeded 100 thousand).
    In total, almost 2019 thousand people have been infected with the coronavirus in the world since December 600.
    Over the past day in Italy, the death rate from coronavirus has set a new record - 919 people. "

    At this rate, only in Italy tomorrow, thousands per day will die. You guys tell the Italians that they say calmly, dear Italians, don’t worry, continue to live an ordinary life, go to work, study, at cafes, restaurants, etc.
  11. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 28 March 2020 11: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: LinxS
    It seems that the President himself turned to the people and asked to turn his head on, but not. Do not believe.

    Around the world, one call:

    Stop the spread of COVID-19!

    - my hands more often
    - keep social distance
    - stay at home
    - comply with health authorities

    The health and life of people close to you depends on you now!
    1. flicker
      flicker 28 March 2020 11: 48 New
      0
      Around the world one call
      What measures are being taken in Israel?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 28 March 2020 12: 17 New
        -1
        Quote: flicker
        Around the world one call
        What measures are being taken in Israel?

        According to new regulations, it is forbidden to leave the place of residence or place of permanent residence in the public space with the following exceptions:

        - Arrival at the place of work permitted in accordance with the regulations or return from work
        - The purchase of food, medicine, essential goods, as well as the receipt of essential services
        - Getting medical care
        - Blood donation
        - Trial
        - To receive services within the framework of social assistance
        - The exit of one or several people living in one place for a short time and no further than 100 meters from the place of residence
        - To provide medical care to another person or to help a person in need of care
        - Prayer in the open, funeral, wedding or circumcision, as well as the woman's exit in the mikvah for women (by prior arrangement)
        - Delivery of a minor to an educational institution for children of workers of life-supporting enterprises, or to special institutions (in accordance with the provisions of the Ordinance on Public Health)
        - Delivery of a minor whose parents do not live together from one parent to another
        - Delivery of a minor whose custodial parent must leave the house as necessary, and in whose place of residence there is no other adult to look after him

        It was also decided to reduce by 25% of the existing public transport. The Minister of Transport ordered to stop the movement of trains. This decision will enter into force on Thursday, March 26.

        A taxi ride is permitted with only one passenger (with two if there is a need to deliver the passenger to the hospital). Passengers must be seated in the back seat with the windows open.

        On public territory and in workplaces, a distance of at least 2 meters between people must be respected. Transportation of workers to the workplace is allowed, in compliance with the requirements of the Ministry of Health.

        In a private car no more than two passengers are allowed.

        Employers are required to provide measurement of body temperature of workers when entering the workplace. It is forbidden to let an employee at a workplace whose temperature is above 38 degrees Celsius.

        Allowed the delivery of food, newspapers and essential goods for the operation of the home, electrical goods, goods and communications services and medical devices.

        Allowed online trading with home delivery of any goods. Upon delivery, the order will be left at the entrance to the house.

        Enterprises selling take-away or home-delivered foodstuffs, pharmacies, optics stores or shops whose main purpose is the sale of hygiene items will operate with a two-meter distance between people. The store should not have more than 4 people at each cash desk.

        Violation of orders is a felony. Police have been given appropriate authority to oversee compliance with regulations.

        The validity of the decisions is 7 days.

        Persons over 60 are strongly advised not to take risks and stay at home.

        The enforcement of quarantine measures is the responsibility of the police and municipal inspectors. In a number of regions, the army will assist law enforcement in this mission.
        1. flicker
          flicker 28 March 2020 14: 47 New
          0
          it is forbidden to leave the place of residence or place of permanent residence in the public space
          Is "public space" a street or just a room?
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 28 March 2020 15: 06 New
            -1
            Quote: flicker
            it is forbidden to leave the place of residence or place of permanent residence in the public space
            Is "public space" a street or just a room?

            Street and premises. Wherever there may still be people.
            Apparently, from tomorrow the conditions will be tightened ...
            1. flicker
              flicker 28 March 2020 16: 34 New
              0
              Well, judging by the measures taken, they are mainly aimed at limiting people's contact with each other (which of course is true).
              But you can get infected not through direct contact with another person, but also through some object in a public place (a door handle, a package of milk (onto which someone sneezed), etc.).
              What do they say in Israel about the duration of the "life" of the virus outside humans?
              And then the information on this issue is not yet clear
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 28 March 2020 16: 59 New
                -1
                Quote: flicker
                the duration of the "life" of the virus outside the person

                it can be in water for about ten days, and if frozen, it can last up to several years.

                The coronavirus stays on metal for about two hours, and on another material, like plastic, it can live for a day. After the study, it became known that the coronavirus lasts for four hours on the door handles, and you can only destroy it by disinfecting it. It can be in the water for about ten days. He does not survive in parcels from China.
                They recommend using gloves when leaving the house. It’s good to put 5-6 pieces in your pocket. You need to learn how to shoot them correctly.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 28 March 2020 23: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  Use gloves when leaving home.

                  And condoms ... duly, they kicked up dust to kick already.

                  I have a good insider in your Israel, there is a good quarantine, YOU ARE ABLE TO DO IT, I know I was there ...

                  And what to yell?

                  The barnyard is a piece of this cow virus. IMHO
                  1. A. Privalov
                    A. Privalov 28 March 2020 23: 13 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Quote: A. Privalov
                    Use gloves when leaving home.

                    And condoms ... duly, they kicked up dust to kick already.

                    I have a good insider in your Israel, there is a good quarantine, YOU ARE ABLE TO DO IT, I know I was there ...

                    And what to yell?

                    The question is rhetorical. You literally these days will feel the same quarantine, if not even better. A man asked me, I answered him. I have, you know, such a habit - to give a clear answer to an intelligible question. Wish you hello hi
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 29 March 2020 00: 31 New
                      -3
                      Quote: A. Privalov
                      You literally these days will feel the same quarantine, if not even better

                      Easy, I'm ready.

                      I once served in the army, so if it is ...

                      Good. See you later hi
                    2. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 29 March 2020 00: 45 New
                      -2
                      Quote: A. Privalov
                      The question is rhetorical

                      Here, I’ll throw it to you from the PM:

                      What's new, interesting, in your wonderful country?

                      I’m funny ... you are a model ... of what will happen next .. I have been watching with interest so far))

                      PS: I was called to work for you, in '98 still ... continue?

                      This is not my country, sorry forset.
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 28 March 2020 22: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Around the world, one call:

      Well, this is for you in the US Congress and Senate ... request
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 28 March 2020 22: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Around the world, one call:

        Well, this is for you in the US Congress and Senate ... request

        To you, this call does not apply. hi
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 28 March 2020 22: 54 New
          +3
          Quote: A. Privalov
          To you, this call does not apply.

          Then do not inflate an elephant from a fly. All that you post here is about safety from the virus, and so on every corner they say in the Russian Federation. Can you provide everyone with personal protective equipment? No? Then what is your lecture about? That's right, to create a panic mood. IMHO.
          1. Liam
            Liam 28 March 2020 22: 59 New
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            The person here is one of the few who writes reasonable and useful posts. Unlike idle talk such as you
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 28 March 2020 23: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: Liam
              The person here is one of the few who writes reasonable and useful posts. Unlike idle talk such as you

              Hamim again? What an irrepressible "Italian doctor" you are. repeat
              1. Liam
                Liam 28 March 2020 23: 09 New
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                .. In the depths of Siberian ores
                Keep long patience ...
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 28 March 2020 23: 10 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Liam
                  . In the depths of Siberian ores
                  Keep long patience ..

                  Try something your own. laughing
          2. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 28 March 2020 23: 00 New
            -1
            Quote: Tank Hard
            Quote: A. Privalov
            To you, this call does not apply.

            Then do not inflate an elephant from a fly. All that you post here is about safety from the virus, and so on every corner they say in the Russian Federation. Can you provide everyone with personal protective equipment? No? Then what is your lecture about? That's right, to create a panic mood. IMHO.

            You did not understand. This appeal does not apply to to you personally. All the rest will draw their own conclusions. I do not observe panic mood among the participants in VO. But nihilists still meet. I dare not hold back anymore. hi
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 28 March 2020 23: 06 New
              +1
              Quote: A. Privalov
              I dare not hold up anymore

              And I wish you what you wish for me, let it be fulfilled! hi
  12. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 28 March 2020 12: 23 New
    +1
    According to media reports, the FSB stopped the export of 11 tons of antiseptics to Kazakhstan from Russia.
    And from Sheremetyevo an unspecified physical. his face, under the guise of a coronvirus, transported 1 ton of gold to London. And where did the FSB look?
    1. flicker
      flicker 28 March 2020 13: 16 New
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      And from Sheremetyevo an unspecified physical. his face, under the guise of a coronvirus, transported 1 ton of gold to London.
      And why unidentified? It's me! And not one ton, but 10 tons and not gold, but bricks and not to London, but to Magadan.
      But everything is correct, "where was the FSB looking?" bully
    2. Alf
      Alf 28 March 2020 16: 51 New
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      Quote: 16112014nk
      And where did the FSB look?

      Where ordered. And, interestingly, not to Germany, not to France, not, scary to say, to AMERICA, but to Britain, with which, as you know, there is no extradition. Apparently, the next oligarch decided to dump.
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 29 March 2020 14: 45 New
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        well if 2 % tax paid, then no FSB,
        neither the pr-va have any complaints.
  13. Shahno
    Shahno 28 March 2020 12: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: Designer 68
    Do not write nonsense. What is the difference HOW the information got to me - from TV, a video on the Internet, or did I see it with my own eyes ??? The main thing is this fact. You are here like old gossips at the entrance discussing the shell, without delving into the content. The simple idea does not come into your head that with epidemics, massive propaganda is just of great benefit. It is the only way to reach out to people who need to immediately observe precautions. And boobies screaming about conspiracy and panic on the contrary harm it.

    And here, I think both options are true.
    1.Exaggeration
    2. Underestimation of the virus and quarantine measures.
    1. This, of course, is not a plague or smallpox.
    2. Based on the statistics, 2 percent of those who are ill will die without measures. 80 percent, that is, say 5 billion people, have recovered on the basis of a sad, sad case in history. Of these deaths, we would have let it go by chance 100 million people. Let's say measures will be effective at 10 percent. This is 10 million people. Not bad..
    10 million lives saved. And note among the political elite, the most likely to be a person of these 10 million, at risk because of age ...
  14. cniza
    cniza 28 March 2020 13: 12 New
    +1
    What can you do now. It remains only to draw lessons for the future.


    Not so simple, the article does not agree on where they want to bring all this and who is behind it ...
  15. Uran53
    Uran53 28 March 2020 21: 23 New
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    The current "pandemic", in my opinion, is also greatly inflated. The coronavirus is an artificial strain of the common flu. And the symptoms are similar. He is far from the usual flu, which takes half a million people a year every year. For example, 5 people died in Russia today. Everyone trumpets that the coronavirus was to blame, but then they make a reservation that they brought the patient to the hospital with bilateral pneumonia. Sorry, but with such a diagnosis it is difficult for a young man to survive. What does the coronavirus have to do with it? But under the guise of governments of different countries solve their problems. For example, in Russia, quarantine can kill small and medium businesses. There will be more room for the corporation, and the people will think less about the new Constitution. the "enemy" was found. The FSA today casually announced that the gold in the Fed. there is no more reserve left, as investors bought everything.
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 29 March 2020 09: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Uran53
      The FSA today casually said that the gold in the Fed. the reserve is gone, because investors bought everything.


      Here, most likely, there is free gold for sale, and the USA takes the 1st place in the world in reserves of 8133,5 tons of gold, half of everything is stored at Fort Knox Base, part at West Point mint storage, part in the Denver Mint in Colorado, and in the vault of the Federal Reserve Bank (FRB) of New York. And so yes, the demand for gold in the world is very high right now, the history in Sheremetyevo shows it well when 2 bars of gold worth 57 million rubles fell out on the road during transportation, then the press service wrote that the gold was delivered to a client in London.
      1. Uran53
        Uran53 29 March 2020 18: 33 New
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        The Americans really have a lot of gold, both their own and "transferred" for storage by other countries. The truth is, the Americans have not shown gold to anyone for quite some time. Have to believe the word for the Anglo-Saxons.
  16. vvp2412
    vvp2412 29 March 2020 12: 51 New
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    Perhaps if in the last couple of decades the world had been less frightened by the “deadly pandemic”, which in reality turned out to be not so deadly and not at all a pandemic, then at the beginning of this year it (the world) would have reacted more quickly and efficiently to the appearance of a really serious threat - COVID-19. What can you do now. It remains only to draw lessons for the future.


    Is she there? Is it a pandemic now?
    Judging by the statistics of deaths, the mortality rate is the same as usual! No excess!
    According to statistics, 650 people die from regular flu per year in the World! And nobody shouts the guard!
  17. Cop
    Cop 29 March 2020 15: 22 New
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    I AM A DOCTOR, I DIED AND LIE
    I died and lay in a bag
    I’m not lying in the morgue, not in the grave,
    Lying on someone who yesterday
    Already managed to leave our world
    I’m not many years old, not an old man,
    And not miserable, not drunk.
    I'm just the one who wanted to live
    But he had to fight evil ..
    I fought with human stupidity.
    I pulled you out of the forces of the latter,
    I saved you, I treated you.
    Why are you so with me, answer !!
    Your selfishness killed me
    A nonchalant positive is not welcome.
    You didn’t give a damn about the ban,
    You gave out death without surrender.
    What nonsense to carry and reason
    About how we are not here forever
    It's time to include your brain
    And just being to other hearts.
    Sit at home, your mother,
    From all screens you are scammed.
    But you don't care what's in the bags
    Someone’s remains are already rotting.
    You want to walk, chat,
    With friends in the clubs hanging out,
    Then all rush to me
    When you start to choke.
    When chanting and dancing
    You have reduced someone’s time.
    "SAVE ME!" - you whisper,
    But I’m not your savior.
    I am dead, I am lying in a bag ...
    © Copyright: Svetlana Feshchenko-Golovko, 2020
    Certificate of Publication No. 120032704613
    I dedicate it to all the untimely dead doctors in the fight against the epidemic.