The task force of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in Italy has begun work

A task force of the Russian Ministry of Defense in Italy has deployed a laboratory for analysis and processing facilities for disinfection in the suburbs of Bergamo, and has begun to provide assistance. It is reported by the Ministry of Defense.

Russian military experts who arrived in the city of Bergamo, began the practical implementation of tasks to assist citizens of the Italian Republic

- said in a statement.

The military department noted that the Russian military conducted a technical inspection and training of equipment, medical equipment, protective equipment, and also studied the area of ​​upcoming work.

On the territory of the Italian Air Force airbase in the suburbs of Bergamo, a laboratory for the polymerase chain reaction of analysis and genotyping, points of special processing of equipment involved in disinfection

- stated in the military.

Meanwhile, it became known that military virologists have begun anti-epidemic measures in the health authorities of Lombardy, the work is being carried out together with Italian experts. Complete sanitary disinfection began with boarding houses for the elderly.

A team of epidemiological doctors and military specialists (...) together with Italian military specialists carried out a complete sanitary disinfection of the Martino Zanki boarding house for the elderly in a suburb of Bergamo. In total 2 thousand square meters of internal premises and access roads were disinfected

- reported in the Ministry of Defense, adding that another boarding house is in line and two more are being reconnoitered.

On the eve of the Ministry of Defense reported that eight medical and nursing teams have been created, each of which will have 7-9 boarding houses in Bergamo, adapted by local authorities to help older people infected with coronavirus.

Each team includes: a general practitioner, an anesthetist-resuscitator, an epidemiologist, anesthetist, and also a unit equipped with disinfection systems for people and vehicles, buildings, road surfaces and areas.

As previously reported in the military department, Russia sent one of the fifteen laboratories of the Russian Chemical Forces Army, eight medical teams, about 100 military virologists and epidemiologists, and special equipment for diagnosis and disinfection to Italy. Major Group of the RF Ministry of Defense in Italy is led by the Deputy Chief of the Radiation, Chemical and Biological Defense Forces of the RF Armed Forces Major General Sergey Kikot.

Comments

[Gardamir]

Yes, at least minus! The number of patients in Russia doubles, but for some reason it is necessary to "help" sunny Italy.

[AU Ivanov.]

This is not Italy’s help - this is the accumulation of their own experience.

[Labrador]

I agree completely!
They are doing everything right. Algorithms and methods of treatment in real time, immediately after testing on the spot, will come to Russia. There are two birds with one stone: the Italians need help and they themselves must work out in advance the best methods of fighting the virus.

[Anika]

Sorry for the sarcasm inappropriate, trained on spaghetti, and on our borscht and lagman there will be fewer errors due to inexperience, once again I apologize for the inappropriate comparison

[Insurgent]

Quote: Anika

train on spaghetti, and on our borscht and lagman there will be fewer mistakes due to inexperience

Errors in the actions of these specialists are already excluded, due to their highest competence in virology.
The main thing that Russian doctors should work out in Italy is the algorithms of actions not during the exercises, but in a real combat situation.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Labrador

Algorithms and methods of treatment in real time, immediately after testing on the spot, will come to Russia.

Invaluable experience
And not only for today, but also for the future.

After all, who knows what is there, still waiting for what dangers await.

To physicians of RKhBZ - GOOD LUCK!

[Frol]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

This is not Italy’s help - this is the accumulation of their own experience.

Well done !!! Rummaging ... It’s better for neighbors to help put out the fire than to restore the whole village .. This is an excellent move from the side of Russia to catch two zats at once .. But first of all, this is help from the heart, where the truth is serious situation .. God bless you men and girls there in Italy .. We pray for you and hope you can do it .. It is not for nothing that Russia is called the savior of the world from all evil spirits ..

[Ural resident]

Quote: Frol

Quote: AU Ivanov.

This is not Italy’s help - this is the accumulation of their own experience.

Well done !!! Rummaging ... It’s better for neighbors to help put out the fire than to restore the whole village .. This is an excellent move from the side of Russia to catch two zats at once .. But first of all, this is help from the heart, where the truth is serious situation .. God bless you men and girls there in Italy .. We pray for you and hope you can do it .. It is not for nothing that Russia is called the savior of the world from all evil spirits ..

They wrote about this here a week ago when such a decision was made, but here they were minuscated for some reason.

[Frol]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

They wrote about this here a week ago when such a decision was made, but here they were minuscated for some reason.

The influx was neolibyr .. To see somewhere a gang was called today)))
And Israel is generally silent
Oh, they’ll come running now and start ..
You should not have mentioned it ..
It’s so good to communicate without them, calmly and politely and on the topic .. Maybe they died of the virus?

[orionvitt]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

but here they were minuscule for some reason

Here "such" are constantly minus. In addition to the liberda and "fiery patriotic patriots" who are so worried about Mother Russia that "they cannot eat", there are many "readers" from Ukraine and other "fraternal republics." Moreover, the most interesting thing (judging by the disadvantages), they work out their piece of bread, they are in the morning. But now, probably due to quarantine, they are online around the clock.

[Quat]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

This is not Italy’s help - this is the accumulation of their own experience.

What experience in Italy can we get, which cannot be acquired in Russia?
Quarantine Quarters? And in Russia this can be done.
Treatment of patients? We have no patients?
We have already begun, and judging by the complete absence of preventive measures, (at least they obligated everyone to wear masks), bad times are waiting for us.

If ours needs experience, we need to go to China and ask them to teach us.

[codetalker]

Preventive measures taken mass. Once again, I am explaining to you popularly: MASKS ARE NOT HELPING FOR HEALTHY. And the best measure would be to prevent “tourists” from entering the country who “left off” to rest after the official announcement of the pandemic (WHO) and recommendations of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs not to leave the country without urgent need. But the "patriotic public" would first begin to howl that "the oligarchy will not let the poor workers go home."

[Quat]

Quote: codetalker

Preventive measures taken mass.

The only thing I saw was thermal imagers installed at nuclear power plants and sellers wear masks, plus extras were canceled.
But that is not enough.

Once again I explain to you popularly: MASKS ARE NOT HELPING FOR HEALTHY

Patients should wear masks, but no one will dare to do this, you will immediately become an outcast, therefore you need to wear everything.
Theoretically, masks can reduce infection by one percent, why refuse?

[codetalker]

Patients do not need to wear masks, patients need to sit at home. Healthy wearing a mask without a change every 45 minutes can only do harm. Preventive measures taken colossal. I will try to explain to you. Preventive measures are not taken as God puts on the soul, but according to the cycle of spread of infection and risk groups. So, in the early stages of this particular epidemic, the main factor in the spread was border crossing. Already in January, measures were taken in China, then in other Asian countries. Then across Europe. A greater result could be expected by completely closing the borders.
All arrivals are quarantined. Probably, its conditions could be tightened. Nevertheless, this (not allowing anyone home from tour trips or strict quarantine upon arrival) does not comply with the ethical guidelines of our state.
The next threat of proliferation are students. Young and strong organisms often tolerate such diseases without pronounced symptoms, and unlike schoolchildren, students have a very wide range of contacts. For 2 weeks full-time students have been transferred to distance learning.
Further. There is a danger that on weekends / vacations and so on everyone will trample around for shopping, bars, cinemas. So this whole area has either suspended or is ending its work from tomorrow.
These are colossal measures. Just imagine what it is to transfer the entire system of higher education to distance rails.
That is why, somewhere under 100 thousand infected, and we have a thousand.

[Normal]

I already posted it here today.
The fact is that they tell us all day long how not to get infected, but they don’t even say how not to get sick. Now in order. The virus attacks the lungs and this is a fact. Our lungs are very fat-dependent organ. From the full intake of fats in the body, their work depends. But it is worth noting that it should be Animal Fats. Vegetables do not roll. Therefore, the first thing that they can strengthen and make stronger just in case, is the full intake of animal fats daily. For a person up to 40 grams, a family of three should consume up to 1/3 of a standard pack of oil, or even half. It is better to type a little on the sides than soon to dry at a depth of 2 meters. Further, if there are no religious troubles, be sure !!!! everyday!!!! FAT!!!!!! It's easy, now the immune system! Her vitamins make the group stronger В
!!! I myself take Pentovit: B1 B6 B12 PP (nicotinamide) and folic acid. The most complex in structure is B12, and what is important is that it is assimilated, there should be B6 in the chain with it. Necessarily, it is precisely groups B that increase our immunity. Vitamin C is useless here. While a person is healthy, but when he becomes ill, then S. is needed. Vitamins themselves are not expensive. From 4 to 6 pieces are recommended per day. Also buy the most interesting amino acid with 4 nitrogen groups - Arginine! In Russia, it goes under the brand name Vazoton. Mandatory. Then, on an empty stomach, do not bite the garlic, but finely chop the tooth and send a spoon into your mouth like a tablet and drink plenty of liquid! There will be no smell, because if you swallow it and it is on an empty stomach, the blood will be cleaned. Health to everyone !!! Take care of yourself and your near and dear ones !!!

[Insurgent]

Quote: codetalker

Already in January measures were taken on China

And squeal, about this, remember how much it was?

[codetalker]

We remember that, and those who squealed, apparently already forgot)

[reservist]

Quote: codetalker

Then across Europe.

my opinion - in Europe worked stupidly
the man left for Italy, returned through Germany to Sheremetyevo and calmly moved on wherever and as he wanted ...

All arrivals are quarantined. Probably, its conditions could be tightened.

From which moment ? now it’s already gone inside transmission from returning from Europe ...

Nevertheless, this (not allowing anyone home from tour trips or strict quarantine upon arrival) does not comply with the ethical guidelines of our state.

Exported from China, unlike those who flew to Milan for the weekend, they quarantined them without regard to ethical settings ...
would have "closed" all of Europe at once, maybe a couple more weeks would have won for preparation ... but now it's all "anyhow, if only ..."

[codetalker]

These are constructive comments. The question immediately arises, do those who have “the weekend in Milan” have brains? And the second question is how much can you fuss with irresponsible people?

[reservist]

Quote: codetalker

those who have "the weekend in Milan"?

They are of two types:
- without brains,
- with brains, but live according to the principle "laws / rules are not written for them"
from the first, a ban on air traffic would probably help
from the second - criminal liability for violation of the quarantine (there is also chapter 16 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, maybe there is some suitable article there), administrative fines for them, like an elephant grains ...

[Grits]

Quote: reservist

Exported from China, unlike those who flew to Milan for the weekend, they quarantined them without regard to ethical settings ...

In Primorye, as soon as the outbreak began in neighboring China, they immediately blocked all the checkpoints and took control of all Chinese by the piece. Fortunately, they then dumped almost everything back to their homeland before the Chinese New Year. And no one was allowed back. Neither tourists nor workers.
As soon as the situation in South Korea began to worsen, rhinestones took measures on it. The same applies to sailors and ships that have entered the Asia-Pacific region. He personally participated in a meeting of the Commission on Emergency Situations of the region in the mode of video-conference communication when they promptly made such decisions. Therefore, everything is true - from the east side, where the infection came from, the gates slammed shut. And the virus slipped through the open door on the west side. And they are taking him to us in the Far East from the west. This was a miscalculation.

[alexmach]

Preventive measures taken colossal. I will try to explain to you.

here I subscribe to every word

[reservist]

Quote: Quat

Theoretically, masks can reduce infection by one percent, why refuse?

why "theoretically"?
in South Korea, masks are required, the spread rate is noticeably lower than the "hospital average" ... although it is possible that the reason is not only masks ...

[Ural resident]

Quote: codetalker

Preventive measures taken mass. Once again, I am explaining to you popularly: MASKS ARE NOT HELPING FOR HEALTHY. And the best measure would be to prevent “tourists” from entering the country who “left off” to rest after the official announcement of the pandemic (WHO) and recommendations of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs not to leave the country without urgent need. But the "patriotic public" would first begin to howl that "the oligarchy will not let the poor workers go home."

Everything is correct. It is unclear why they waited so much. Our people were taken out from China in February, so they were quarantined without further ado. It was clear to everyone that it would reach us. It was necessary to close air communications earlier and not be afraid of public opinion. Self-isolation is generally a strange term. In Yekaterinburg, from my acquaintances, I know 2 cases, when the "girls" who arrived from Italy, who were quarantined, just went to hang out in clubs. As a result, their test turned out to be positive and they were taken to the hospital, and how many they re-injected during this time ...

[Grits]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

when the "girls" who arrived from Italy, who were quarantined, just went to hang out around the club

If the "girls" survive, then after the pandemic, send them to "free forced labor". The men on watch in distant villages in the taiga or in the tundra will be very pleased with this decision.

[Harry.km]

Quote: Gritsa

Guys on watch in distant villages in the taiga or in the tundra will be very pleased with this decision.

Yeah, they’ll say thanks, for herpes and other gonorrhea ... Did they stay in Italy at the library in Ecie?

[Labrador]

We have already begun, and judging by the complete absence of preventive measures, (at least they obligated everyone to wear masks), bad times are waiting for us.

1) - we have begun, but they are already in full swing! And it is the experience of overcoming this stage that is better to get in the neighboring village, so as not to allow in your pestilence!
2) - masks to healthy people, in principle, are not needed, especially if they are not worn according to the rules (without regular replacement and not where necessary). Masks should be worn by patients and doctors working with patients. From the fact that everyone will start wearing masks like crazy, nothing will change for the better.
And by the way, in addition to the nose and mouth, which you try to cover with a mask, there are also eyes with their mucous membranes. So a gas mask is more reliable ...

The most reliable means so far: to observe personal hygiene and not to blink where there is no need !!!

[reservist]

Quote: Labrador

From the fact that everyone will start wearing masks like crazy, nothing will change for the better.

why not change?
the mask is significantly cheaper than the test, if everyone wears masks, and those who have already become infected, but still don’t know about it, and those who are still healthy, then the speed of the virus’s spread decreases ...
it is unrealistic to test everyone, tk. it costs a lot of money, takes time, in the end this requires laboratories with trained personnel, which by themselves "do not grow on trees" ...

[alexmach]

why not change?

Because you still need to be able to wear it correctly. Wearing a mask for the first time in your life you will simply touch your face with your hands even more often and only increase the chance of getting infected.

[reservist]

Quote: alexmach

Because you still need to be able to wear it correctly.

so who argues that ...
but it’s solvable, all in all, instead of advertising on TV, spin a weekly training video ...

[Oleg1263]

I believe that China will not tell, even if we ask strongly, about all the intricacies of working in an epidemic. But Italy already has no other choice, for the EU, it is such an EU .....

[reservist]

Quote: Quat

at least masks required to wear all

for this you need to provide all these masks
for a pack of 100 pieces of the most common disposable masks, the price tag is breaking more than 5 thousand rubles, although at the end of last year it cost from 700 to 1000 rubles
for example, in South Korea masks are mandatory, they sell without a horse margin in pharmacies by the medical insurance number, that is, simply put, they made an electronic analogue of our coupons from the 90s

[AU Ivanov.]

At least experience how not to do. Then an article flashed that the Italians placed the infected coronovirus in the usual infectious, next to patients with bacterial pneumonia. Coronovirus survived. But patients suffering from pneumonia of a different etiology - no.

[alexmach]

Lord, what are the subtleties then?
Quarantine events have been known since the Middle Ages.
China shared the medical data on the virus and its treatment with everyone, statistics too. What other subtleties do you invent

[SSR]

Quote: Quat

What experience in Italy can we get, which cannot be acquired in Russia?

Sit at home. What experience can you gain at work?

Quote: Quat

Quarantine Quarters? And in Russia this can be done.

Share invaluable experience.

Quote: Quat

Treatment of patients? We have no patients?

Tin!
What are you talking about? The virus flared up in China and came to us from Europe, and at the same time are we stupid? Do you even forgot how to think?

Quote: Quat

We have already begun, and judging by the complete absence of preventive measures, (at least they obligated everyone to wear masks),

Wash your hands! I see a lot about masks. Put on a mask, rub your butt and do not wash your hands, is that your panacea to see?))

Quote: Quat

If ours needs experience, we need to go to China and ask them to teach us.

Where are you from? Are you watching the shore or are you from Spain or the USA writing?
China did not slap the Russian Federation, the civilized and enlightened Europe did not take into account the Russian Federation. How they lived in the slops and the washers smashed.

[Grits]

Quote from S.S.R.

Russia civilized and enlightened Europe did not take into account. How they lived in the slops and the washers smashed.

I still wonder how the plague epidemics that mowed down the "enlightened" but swinish Europe did not jump from these assholes in the Middle Ages to Russia.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Gritsa

how from these assholes in the Middle Ages, plague epidemics that mowed down the "enlightened" but swinish Europe did not jump to us in Russia

These are the advantages of partial isolation, huge territories and, of course, a Russian bath. We have only heard about what in "enlightened" Europe.

[tomket]

Quote: Quat

What experience in Italy can we get, which cannot be acquired in Russia?

At least pout to HOW NOT TO DO. Other people's mistakes Sometimes more important than success.

[Liam]

Quote: tomket

Quote: Quat

What experience in Italy can we get, which cannot be acquired in Russia?

At least pout to HOW NOT TO DO. Other people's mistakes Sometimes more important than success.

Well, yes ... today we learned how to spray mattresses in shelters for the elderly, it makes no sense.

[tomket]

Quote: Liam

Well, yes ... today we learned how to spray mattresses in shelters for the elderly, it makes no sense.

As I understand it, you are the chief doctor of Italy, do you know where it makes sense to do something, and where not? Lead the fight on the couch?

[tomket]

Quote: Liam

Well, yes ... today we learned how to spray mattresses in shelters for the elderly, it makes no sense.

You see, it makes no sense in your comments. You do not own information, do not have experience, you can’t write anything sensible at all. What do not write, or a stream of consciousness, or fiction. As with the trend-trand. You only send negativity, making you doubt the adequacy of migrants in Italy.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Quat

If ours needs experience, you need to go to China and ask them to teach us

How is ours? Do not confuse ours and yours. Yours would only ask. Habit? And ours are used to doing everything themselves. And on occasion, help others.

What experience in Italy can we get, which cannot be acquired in Russia?

Firstly, there is really experience in the field, as well as methods of interaction with other countries (in case of a larger threat). And secondly, public opinion. Which, incidentally, is also worth a lot. But yours don't give a damn, yours always has its own opinion. Like why take a steam bath, when you can just ask. Yes, that's who in our time will give. You are naive people.

[iouris]

This is the help of Italy. Helping others means helping yourself. There is no contradiction. The main thing is to help those that the state of Italy is not able to do.

[Grits]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

This is not Italy’s help - this is the accumulation of their own experience.

When our military turned Syria into a kind of huge training ground, the liberal part of the "society" raised a squeal. And now, when Russia has managed to arrange a training ground on the territory of a NATO country, they generally come out on poop

[NF68]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

This is not Italy’s help - this is the accumulation of their own experience.

And Italy’s help too.

[marshes]

Quote: Gardamir

Yes, at least minus! The number of patients in Russia doubles, but for some reason it is necessary to "help" sunny Italy.

For Ponte ,.
From Omsk the Patient has already entered Kazakhstan, not to mention Minsk and Moscow.

[Jager]

Have you checked it yourself? The border of Kazakhstan and the Russian Federation is closed, trolling failed.

[marshes]

Quote: Jager

Have you checked it yourself? The border of Kazakhstan and the Russian Federation is closed, trolling failed.

Trolling?
Coronavirus in SKO came from Omsk
...
More details: https://kursiv.kz/news/obschestvo/2020-03/koronavirus-v-sko-popal-iz-omska
Copying is possible only with a link to Kursiv.kz. All rights reserved.

[Air force]

Trolling definitely did not succeed, but unfortunately, yes, I moved to Kazakhstan because she is a citizen of Kazakhstan, all contacts with her are in quarantine. But this case does not detract from the fact that Russia is doing the right thing in the case of Italy, and all who shout that they themselves need help, everything was lost, etc. provocateurs or fools. Argue with them only wasting time. Good luck to the Russian military doctors, the main thing is that everyone would return healthy and alive just such people would write glorious deeds of Russia into world history, and all-mutters write only sarcastic comments. PS Across Kazakhstan, the information site coronavirus2020.kz there is written about a girl from Omsk.

[Yehudi Menuhin]

You do not own the situation. The fact was. A student became infected in Omsk.

[Frol]

Quote: marshes

Quote: Gardamir

Yes, at least minus! The number of patients in Russia doubles, but for some reason it is necessary to "help" sunny Italy.

For Ponte ,.
From Omsk the Patient has already entered Kazakhstan, not to mention Minsk and Moscow.

Well, the swamps just to spit in the direction of Russia ..You at your place (Kazakhstan) first figure out what the US biological station is doing there. Since the time of the collapse of the USSR, you have settled there and baby Tony Blair has been there for a long time in the main advisers of the sun Nursultan is present ..
And then come on to Russia! Or am I wrong?

[marshes]

Quote: Frol

Well, the swamps just to spit in the direction of Russia .. You there at home (Kazakhstan) figure out first what the US biological station does there

Spit, yes no. And on the account of Bio Laba. Built with US money, the main thing was to put together three labs in Almaty and two from Kazakhstan, otherwise the early guard kept everything there. A rich library of bacteria and viruses. Moreover, vaccines were made from old sores . Surprisingly not one American, though it is necessary to report.
The same goes for nuclear physics.

[Operator]

Coronavirus in Kazakhstan is just from the American laboratory and spreads - and Omsk as a cover.

[marshes]

Quote: Operator

Coronavirus in Kazakhstan is just from the American laboratory and spreads - and Omsk as a cover.

Yeah, student intern.

[SSR]

Quote: marshes

Quote: Operator

Coronavirus in Kazakhstan is just from the American laboratory and spreads - and Omsk as a cover.

Yeah, student intern.

What did she practice in Omsk?))
Comrades, no kidding. Stop spreading all this crap like being measured by the roots. Let's unite and be just vigilant.

[Yehudi Menuhin]

That's bullshit. Paranoid

[Jager]

Wow, have the Americans already built a tokamak with a collider? They helped the ancient Ukrainians to dig the Black Sea. Congratulations. But all the nuclear installations in Kazakhstan are for some reason Soviet. Here is a reference, you are our nuclear "fizeg".
https://informburo.kz/stati/v-kazahstane-razvivaetsya-nauka-o-yadernyh-reaktorah-kak-ona-ustroena.html

[Frol]

Quote: marshes

Spit, yes no. And on the account of Bio Laba. Built with US money, the main thing was to put together three labs in Almaty and two from Kazakhstan, otherwise the early guard kept everything there. A rich library of bacteria and viruses. Moreover, vaccines were made from old sores . Surprisingly not one American, though it is necessary to report.
The same goes for nuclear physics.

What info Bolot thanks !!! Usually hushed up, supposedly nothing and you're all lying .. So all the prada and in Georgia, Ukraine and the Baltic States .. Is there also people vaccinated and "treated"?
Well, nuclear physics with you is the proven uranium we built, you sell to everyone .. What have you explored and built yourself, except for the capital Nursultan. Closer to Russia?

[cost]

Well, swamps just to spit in the direction of Russia. Or am I wrong?

.
I'm afraid that they are wrong. Bolot is a worthy forum member and an honored veteran. You are here recently, therefore, you have misinterpreted his post. He also treats Russia well, as well as his native Kazakhstan.

[Frol]

Quote: Rich

Well, swamps just to spit in the direction of Russia. Or am I wrong?

.
I'm afraid that they are wrong. Bolot is a worthy forum member and an honored veteran. You are here recently, therefore, you have misinterpreted his post. He also treats Russia well, as well as his native Kazakhstan.

I know Bolot is a normal forum member, but Kazakh without show-offs, this is not Kazakh)))) Sometimes it needs to be pulled

[Grits]

Quote: Frol

You there at home (Kazakhstan) figure out first what the US biological station is doing there. Still, since the collapse of the USSR, you settled there

I think when everything settles down, Russia will need to demand in a very strict form all neighbors - the former republics - to remove all these American laboratories from their territory. Fortunately, the occasion is simply the most beautiful. Smart countries, realizing where the real danger comes from, will follow smart advice. Those who disagree should at least endorse their sovereignty. In case of failure - an ultimatum. Further - according to the experience of Israel. Jews know how to stop threats from neighbors.

[Frol]

Quote: Gritsa

I think when everything settles down, Russia will need to demand in a very strict form all neighbors - the former republics - to remove all these American laboratories from their territory.

I agree ! For some reason, this topic is always hushed up in our mass media.

[sdc_alex]

Quote: marshes

From Omsk already Patient entered Kazakhstan

Not so "sick":
https://www.omskinform.ru/news/139640

[demo]

Why minus you?
If we were just informed that the number of cases in the Russian Federation exceeded 1000 people.
We just fight in a more efficient way.
"Moscow. March 27. INTERFAX.RU - The Russian government has initiated a whole range of measures to combat the spread of the coronavirus COVID-19: restaurants, bars, sanatoriums, children's camps and ski resorts will be closed from March 28, and the regional authorities have been advised to ban all mass events and close cinemas. "
The main problem is to reduce people's contact.
And isolate the infected.
And there - as God willing.

[Frol]

Quote: demo

The main problem is to reduce people's contact.
And isolate the infected.
And there - as God willing.

I think serious measures have been taken .. And if you count on our Russian indifference, even too soft .. It would not hurt to declare an emergency, although of course it would hardly be respected, but still ..

[Grits]

Quote: Frol

And if you count on our Russian indifference, even too soft .. It wouldn’t hurt to declare the state of emergency, although of course it would hardly have been respected, but still ..

I think that so far this is only a test for "comprehension". If we do not understand and continue to treat the danger carelessly, relying on chance and continue to dash through the streets, go to work, fearing the boss's anger, then the following measures will be exactly tough. This test must not fail.

[codetalker]

Those if they did not help sunny Italy, the number would not double?

[Malyuta]

Quote: Gardamir

The number of patients in Russia doubles, but for some reason it is necessary to "help" sunny Italy.

They are our "partners" We always help our "partners")

[Azazelo]

And what has the backing track ... the number of patients is growing, because the number of brainless idiots with another virus - "Healthy egoism" is very large ...

[codetalker]

It's a pity the dullness virus is not deadly ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: codetalker

It's a pity the dullness virus is not deadly ...

It depends...

[Yehudi Menuhin]

I'm afraid the world would be depopulated then

[Masha]

Quote: Azazelo

"Healthy egoism".

.... idiocy ....

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gardamir

but for some reason it is necessary to "help" sunny Italy.

Because we are people

[notingem]

You are absolutely right. People must first be people

[Fantazer911]

In vain you are so, you need to know what will come to us, and therefore be prepared, the States do not sleep and spread the infection around the world and only the one who does not do anything comes to us, and it’s certainly better to get experience outside your country, there more likely to find an antidote.

[Voltsky]

Yes, at least minus! The number of patients in Russia doubles, but for some reason it is necessary to "help" sunny Italy.

In Russia do not help ?! Or do you think the situation in the Russian Federation has already reached that situation that requires the use of the army? :)

There were no full-time doctors, but military specialists

[megadeth]

I completely agree. The Italians also brought the Virginio Fasan missile frigate equipped with cruise missiles to the coast of Crimea. While the Italians are conducting "dry" launches in Crimea, our guys are risking their lives ... but this is "of course for the sake of gaining experience from the pandemic." We have what they say to the people from the box and believe, hello eighties ...

[Grits]

Quote: megadeth

While the Italians are conducting dry launches across Crimea, our guys are risking their lives ...

While Italians are training in electronic missile launches near our territory, we are training in a real combat situation on their territory. The difference is significant. And not in their favor.

[svp67]

Quote: Gardamir

but for some reason it is necessary to "help" sunny Italy.

Because it is necessary to find many answers to questions there in advance, in order to have time to answer here, as quickly as possible ...
And the main thing is not to think that here in Russia no one is getting ready

[Dalmatia]

It is necessary to help Italy, because the cottage of the Kremlin nightingale is there)))

[Old Horseradish]

Of course, I apologize, I was almost convinced that the help of Italy was necessary. However, the Italian journalists themselves, to put it mildly, have a negative attitude to this help. So I say: this is a NATO country.
Here is the info and link:
"80% of the cargo sent by Russia to Italy in the framework of assistance in the fight against coronavirus" is completely useless or of little use, "writes the newspaper La Stampa.
According to a newspaper source, Russia provided support based on its political and diplomatic interests, while Italy agreed to accept it in order to “strengthen relations” with Moscow.
Russian Ambassador to Italy Sergei Razov said that Russia is providing Italy with disinterested aid. “I was surprised to read today in one of the authoritative Italian newspapers that allegedly a significant part of the equipment and equipment supplied by Russia is not necessary, and our help is motivated primarily by some political and propaganda considerations,” the diplomat said. "
https://novayagazeta.ru/news/2020/03/26/160134-la-stampa-otpravlennaya-v-italiyu-gumanitarnaya-pomosch-iz-rossii-prakticheski-bespolezna

[marshes]

Quote: Old Fuck

Of course, I apologize, I was almost convinced that the help of Italy was necessary. However, the Italian journalists themselves, to put it mildly, have a negative attitude to this help. So I say: this is a NATO country.

there are pretty good machines for disinfecting the surface, otherwise all this is manual as ours.

[svp67]

Quote: marshes

there are pretty good surface disinfecting machines, otherwise it’s all manual as ours

What, why, but there were always enough ARSs in the army, earlier on the basis of ZILs,

now at KamAZ trucks ..

Where are yours then?

[Vadim02rus]

And yours, where did it go?

Yesterday I drove after them only in Astana. On the basis of Kamaz.

[codetalker]

Help seems not to Italian journalists. You can’t help them anymore ...

[marshes]

Quote: codetalker

they help, it seems, not to Italian journalists. You can’t help them anymore ...

What I saw on advertising, there are pretty cool complexes, we haven’t met them.

[codetalker]

And should have met ??? Any means are applied as necessary, and not "the more the better."

[marshes]

Quote: codetalker

And should have met ??? Any means are applied as necessary, and not "the more the better."

At least those cars that were produced during the alliance, no one canceled the nuclear attack, including the fact that there were two training grounds at the councils for chemical and biological weapons, nuclear in Kazakhstan.
Three biocombineries worked for defense, until the fig of the inheritance remained and expensive.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Old Fuck

Here is the info and link:
"80% of the cargo sent by Russia to Italy in the framework of assistance in the fight against coronavirus" is completely useless or of little use, "writes the newspaper La Stampa.

"The Governor of Lombardy Attilio Fontana, in turn, criticized the media, which published articles that the aid sent by Russia was allegedly useless." Euronews reported.
https://ru.euronews.com/2020/03/26/lombardy-authorities-thank-russia-for-help-to-fight-coronavirus

[reservist]

Quote: Old Fuck

According to the source of the newspaper ...

Is the source known?
Yes, and figs would be with him, with this source ... According to the results of the work, the effectiveness of certain methods will be clear ...
As our teacher said on the topic "Setting up and conducting an experiment" - a negative result, also a result.

[Orkraider]

About this newspaper La Stampa.

And we have the ECHO of Moscow. They also write a lot of things, just read some sources, do not respect yourself

[Grits]

Quote: Old Fuck

"80% of the cargo sent by Russia to Italy within the framework of assistance in the fight against coronavirus is" completely useless or of little use. "

But whether these measures are useful or useless, we will already determine based on the results of training conducted in Italy and on Italians. And we will adjust these measures based on the analysis of the "training"

[Mytholog]

Good luck and success to peasants (and girls, yes), at the far frontier of the fight against the epidemic.

[Thunderbolt]

I understand the actions of our RCBZs as reconnaissance in battle. Which strains are there to capture or .... and for what else? But the strains have long been removed and the Institute of Virology has already said that before 1 year of vaccine do not wait for humanity. There are hard times waiting for us .. All who was happy here that the NATO countries and Ukraine torn away ---- they supposedly deserved it, and we have chpoki-chpoki ---- stupid and joyless guys. The virus covers ALL with its black wing, regardless of gender and nationality. Closing borders is fiction --- it is not respected. The virus travels around the world.

[Piramidon]

polymerase chain reaction analysis and genotyping laboratory

Everything is explained in a worker-peasant manner, simply and clearly.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Piramidon

Everything is explained in a worker-peasant manner, simply and clearly.

Laboratory for conducting primary tests for coronavirus.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

The Italians with the "ulcer" distinguished themselves. I wonder Charlie Hebdo isn't laughing anymore?

[marshes]

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

The Italians with the "ulcer" distinguished themselves. I wonder Charlie Hebdo isn't laughing anymore?

The most mocking that QUARANTINE is the Italian word. So they fought plague from the Middle East, especially the Venetians

[Jager]

But the method, in the complete absence of science as medicine, in principle, and drugs, fully justifies itself.

[Xenofont]

Venice has the island of Isola, traditionally for the plague.

[Kleber]

Quote: marshes

The most mocking that QUARANTINE is an Italian word.

Yes. "40 days" in literary translation.

[demo]

Yes. Somehow forgot, falcons.

[Laksamana besar]

........................

[Liam]

It’s better if you didn’t show this video to anyone. Especially for those who understand Italian

[Piramidon]

Quote: Liam

It’s better if you didn’t show this video to anyone. Especially for those who understand Italian

Explain in more detail, what is wrong there? I do not know Italian.

[Liam]

They brought this group of Russian soldiers under the supervision and escort of the Italian military (these are those in white overalls) who tell them what to do and disinfect themselves before they let them go in. The one who sprays a Russian soldier tells him to raise his right leg, but the Russians don’t understand Italian and raises the left.
The soldiers do not particularly understand where they got and what to do. The masked man shows them the corridor and says to wash there. And the doctor already speaks Russian, do not dare to go anywhere else.
This structure is a hospice for the elderly where they will be transferred to those who have been cured of the virus from the hospital for further observation before being finally allowed to go home. There are no patients with the virus there. Regarding cleanliness, it’s clear how everything works out there)

[Laksamana besar]

The video is called reconnaissance, not fighting, and there are far from soldiers.

[Liam]

No, this is "fighting"
https://www.valseriananews.it/2020/03/27/i-russi-sanificano-le-case-di-riposo-di-nembro-e-alzano/

[tomket]

Quote: Liam

No, this is "fighting"

So you recently swore by your mother that there were no mistakes in Italy, but just yesterday you told me how bad everything was in Germany, and in Italy you understand the trend for recovery. True, today a mortality record was set for a day in Italy, and more likely there was a transshipment, and not a trend.

[svp67]

Quote: Liam

And the doctor already speaks Russian, do not dare to go anywhere else.

I wonder where did you hear that?
In gray - RChBZ fighters, they look at the "work front", in blue - doctors, those have their own specific questions

Quote: Liam

who tell them what to do and disinfect themselves before letting go somewhere.

Nothing, ours will still be "injected", for fidelity

[Liam]

I can only say ... poor nurses .. they still clean everything after this video show.

[svp67]

Quote: Liam

I can only say ... poor nurses .. they still clean everything after this video show.

You have a strange idea about disinfection ... and I wish the nurses "HEALTH", temperature 36,6 and no cough

[Liam]

Look, adults. This virus is transmitted from person to person by airborne droplets. Like a common flu. On surfaces, these droplets are dangerous for several hours. An infected person enters this room and he immediately fills the air with these droplets and surfaces too. And all this "Disinfection" is a senseless occupation. Not to mention washing streets or cars, as different figures write here.

[svp67]

Quote: Liam

An infected person will enter this room and he will immediately fill the air with these drops and the surface too.

But whether the viruses survive on the film that creates our solution. He’s not taken from a puddle. That’s what, and in the creation of this, our succeeded ...

[tomket]

Quote: Liam

Look, adults. This virus is transmitted from person to person by airborne droplets. Like a common flu. On surfaces, these droplets are dangerous for several hours. An infected person enters this room and he immediately fills the air with these droplets and surfaces too. And all this "Disinfection" is a senseless occupation. Not to mention washing streets or cars, as different figures write here.

You are apparently a prominent virus expert. With vast experience and practice.

[Liam]

Quote: svp67

those have their own specific questions

What specific questions are there in the shelter for the elderly where there are no patients and where are they going to take cured people from hospitals only after a few days? And they’re not even brought to these rooms that this comrade sprinkles so unprofessionally, but to a separate room, which is now being built at an accelerated pace by ordinary workers who watch this show and chuckle

[svp67]

Quote: Liam

What specific questions are there in the shelter for the elderly where there are no patients and where are they going to take cured people from hospitals only after a few days?

They arrived for special treatment. Are you 100% sure that the "infection" was not brought there? People who have been cured do not receive immunity, but can get sick again, only with a more sad outcome. You know, our representatives are soldiers, where they set the task, they will carry it out there, they themselves did not ask to carry out the processing there.
And I don’t understand your sarcasm. Something I, even in such boarding houses are not Americans, not British, I do not see Germans ...

[Liam]

Do you rely on what scientific data do not get immunity when you talk about immunity? Your soldiers do what they are ordered, and their superiors order them. In the army, in my opinion, it is so. You yourself see what they are doing there and do not admit it, but you are also "disappointed" with the result. Otherwise, everyone imagined it.
As for the rest of the countries. Not everyone does things with the sounds of fanfare and cameras. The Americans opened a field hospital with their staff in Cremona. It has been working for a week, and the other day they brought it by plane and the Italian military is collecting it now. Also, the Americans bring insulin to all hospitals. which is very necessary in intensive care units. The Germans send their planes and ambulance helicopters equipped with resuscitation beds to Italy every day and transport dozens of Italian patients in hospitals to Germany. The French yesterday transferred 2 million ma juice. And in all these countries, tens of thousands of infected and thousands of dying are now burning their own fires. In February, China received planes with masks, ventilation and so on from the EU when it was burning

[svp67]

Quote: Liam

You yourself see what they are doing there and do not admit it, but you are also "disappointed" with the result

I - no, I would be glad that our soldiers and doctors would not be useful to you, but that we would finish the business trip and return home. They are still at home for two weeks in quarantine.

Quote: Liam

As for the rest of the countries.

And okay, I wish the people of Italy to quickly deal with this infection.
And a musical pause, to raise the mood and immunity

[Liam]

I wish you that your soldiers would not be needed in Russia, and that everything would work out.
And Beatrice is a good conductor and a beautiful woman)

[svp67]

Quote: Liam

I wish you that your soldiers would not be needed in Russia, and that everything would work out.

Thank. But we are FOCUSING.

[Liam]

Leaving aside controversy and sarcasm, Russia, like other countries, will be saved not by gallant soldiers in new fashionable overalls, but not quite combat-looking kind of not quite young women and men (doctors, nurses, orderlies) who will tumble down from fatigue in intensive care units. And about them brave reporting on the Star will not be shown. As in this video
https://youtu.be/yosYvI7YVQo
My "sarcasm" is because of this
PySy .And even more lives we will save ourselves by empty streets and sitting at home.

[svp67]

Quote: Liam

And about them brave reporting on the Star will not be shown. As in this video

But this video is not from "Zvezda"


And here is your video ...

Quote: Liam

https://youtu.be/yosYvI7YVQo

[Liam]

Quote: svp67

But the video is not from "Zvezda"

For 1 min 08 sec of this video, a command is heard in Italian-Start to output them and immediately duplicated by walkie-talkie. After a few seconds, you can hear in Russian- Two by two.
You yourself know what it's called-camera

[svp67]

Quote: Liam

You yourself know what it's called-camera

I do not support your skepticism. I don’t think that our specialists sit there and beat their thumbs, sometimes acting in "propaganda videos", especially since Italian specialists are doing the same

[tomket]

Quote: Liam

You rely on what scientific data when you talk about immunity do not receive? Your soldiers do what they are ordered to, and their commanders order them.

I understand that through you it’s hard to admit that you have chosen a camp for a life that has worked out in full. Initially, I remember your comments, how you told me what a great medicine in Italy, and how they then began to mutate with the deterioration of affairs. then Germany is about to begin to die out, and in Italy it’s a trend, then the EU is saving China and the World, although on the contrary, the EU is pulling other people's masks as the last thief. Now here you are angry that someone put the wrong foot in the wrong place. Can you calm down already?

[dauria]

Can you calm down already?

But really .... In every topic there are with an irrepressible desire "across everything and everyone." I am for it . It is necessary . BUT !! With a simple condition - speak up and keep quiet. I believe that three comments in the topic are more than enough to clearly and clearly state your position and answer questions.
People, how do you like that? Three comments on the snout in one topic - and they will think before blurt out anyhow.

[32363]

Quote: Liam

It’s better if you didn’t show this video to anyone. Especially for those who understand Italian

Cho bazaar then, amemerde?

[Karaul14]

Isn't it scary to send people at all? And then they will see how a country can live that does not produce a single gram of oil and gas and does not have resources, then there will be superfluous questions.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Karaul14

Isn't it scary to send people at all? And then they will see how a country can live that does not produce a single gram of oil and gas and does not have resources, then there will be superfluous questions.

where there is no winter, and money is not needed for clothes, where heifers do not need to be undressed, and pay for heat? stupid troll ...

[Karaul14]

Quote: Aerodrome

where there is no winter, and money is not needed for clothes, where heifers do not need to be undressed, and pay for heat? stupid troll ...

Well, albeit in Italy it is rather cold in winter, Austria and Switzerland are to the north. And what's wrong there? Also the climate is not that?)))

[Lopatov]

Quote: Karaul14

Isn't it scary to send people at all? And then they will see how a country can live that does not produce a single gram of oil and gas

You are very stuck in the past ... Very much.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Karaul14

Isn't it scary to send people at all? And then they will see how a country can live that does not produce a single gram of oil and gas

You are very stuck in the past ... Very much.

stuck in the salary.

[AU Ivanov.]

Faced with the Italian mess and bureaucracy, you understand that not everything is so bad in Russia.

[svp67]

Quote: Karaul14

Isn't it scary to send people at all?

You might think that before this emergency, our people did not travel around the world. What "hole" you got out of, that you missed three decades?

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Frol

Quote: demo

The main problem is to reduce people's contact.
And isolate the infected.
And there - as God willing.

I think serious measures have been taken .. And if you count on our Russian indifference, even too soft .. It would not hurt to declare an emergency, although of course it would hardly be respected, but still ..

pedalik, you don’t even care about FSE, I’d grab the pluses. you got tired already ...

[marshes]

Quote: Gardamir

That is, the inhabitants of Russia die, for our officials, we clear the clearing so that when it breaks out in Russia, there is much to dump ...

In Almaty, an infected person bought food at a home store, the entire block on Quarantine.
But INA CHE DO NOT CUT.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Gardamir

And the cherry on the cake

see ... do not chew without cherries.

[vitvit123]

I never wanted to enter into a polemic ... and I won’t argue whether they sent it right or not, but ...
It is said that they sent one of the fifteen brigades! Well, what do you dislike so much? The remaining 14 are still not even in business (and, God forbid, not in business). Well, maybe the truth will turn out to be a golden experience ... well, another 14 teams insure! Sent one! So far, it seems that the situation is not critical! Enough space (God forbid all will not come in handy).
Well, are you all somewhere that you hear something? What is wrong with destroying terrorists in Syria? Of course, the negative can also be found in the mirror if you try, but what is wrong if the army is doing its job, with small losses, which, thanks to military losses, do not equal God, because in wars we have incomparably more perished. Many people are eager to go to Syria to earn money or a veteran, everyone has their own troubles. Well what are you ....

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gardamir

That is, the inhabitants of Russia die, for our officials, we clear the clearing so that when it breaks out in Russia, there is much to dump ...

I see you are a fan of "healthy egoism", decisions like "take the medicine from this aunt, she is old anyway, and give it to me."

For you personally, sedative for your toad.
In the ZVO deployed four RKhBzshnie group More than two hundred pieces of equipment. This is 10 times more. than sent to Italy.
MO prepared 32 hospitals for receiving patients with coronavirus. 3591 beds, 2782 mechanical ventilation. In Italy, not a single one.
Plus 16 infection centers will be built before May 15, which is another 1600 beds. In Italy, not a single
There are 9 monitoring groups of RHBZshnikov, 9 times more than in Italy.
15 laboratories are deployed. 15 times more than in Italy.

[Gardamir]

"take the medicine from this aunt, she is still old, and give it to me."

but you have the title of best commentator. And you write nonsense.
Today I rolled in the subway, everything is as usual. No one gives out masks with gloves, does not wipe the handrails. And advice, if you feel unwell, stay at home, it will become worse for you to come, maybe ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gardamir

Today I rolled in the subway, everything is as usual. No one gives out masks with gloves

And who should give them out?
I've bought myself.
I look, you are already completely snickering there ...

Quote: Gardamir

And advice, if you feel unwell, stay at home, it will become worse for you to come, maybe ...

Do not expect that they will come for you and help. After all, not only do you have the right to healthy egoism ...

[Gardamir]

After all, not only do you have the right to healthy egoism ...

My selfishness is known to everyone here. I am for Russia! For the inhabitants of Russia.
Take the free tip. Stop talking to yourself.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gardamir

I am for Russia!

Ha ha ha ....

[svp67]

Quote: Gardamir

I am for Russia! For the inhabitants of Russia.

It seems so to you, in many ways, personally YOU ARE FOR YOURSELF, even worse, you simply demand that everyone be for you. In this situation, the question must be posed in a different way: "What, personally, did I do to prevent this infection from going further?" When everyone can give an answer to this question and begin to take steps so that the “enemy” does not pass in “his sector” of this war, then we will win. And only so. There is no need to rely on "good uncles". We remember the saying; "Trust in God, but don't be flat yourself"

[marshes]

Quote: Spade

For you personally

Your government has been warned twice, by the Chinese and ours.
Well damn stubborn like an old man.

[svp67]

Quote: marshes

Your government has been warned twice, by the Chinese and ours.

Excuse me, but "ours" is WHO?

[svp67]

Quote: Spade

For you personally, sedative for your toad.

CVO, today ...

With the doctors and the RKhBZ brigade, they were raised by alarm and sent to the concentration area.

[Old Horseradish]

I think there is no need to minus Gardamir. He expressed his point of view, his civic position. We have freedom of speech and pluralism of opinions.
Now I was walking down the street, a bum passed me, the stench of about 50 meters. "Maybe the coronavirus will not take root on our streets," my friend told me, inhaling this unpleasant smell. And he told an anecdote: "When it gets to Russia, the coronavirus gets drunk, becomes lazy and degrades into a common ARVI."
I really hope so.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Old Fuck

50 meters stench

It is good that you sniffed. So not sick. According to the British, loss of smell is one of the symptoms.

[Vadim02rus]

Your government has been warned twice, by the Chinese and ours.
Well damn stubborn like an old man.

Is it not the case of the judge who, on a private plane to Germany, rushed to the son of a diplomat during quarantine? Not him, no?)

[Kapkan]

Our harnessed to the fullest! I am proud!

[Liam]

Yeah .... without words

[Lopatov]

Quote: Liam

Yeah .... without words

Exactly.
What a horror ....
The Italians also do not disdain disinfection. Which you recently declared "useless" ....

[tomket]

Quote: Liam

Yeah .... without words

Yes, it’s clear that without words. What can you say intelligently besides malice and bile?

[Azis]

It was already:
https://topwar.ru/108858-rossiyskiy-ognemet-ot-istokov-do-nashih-dney.html
I don’t understand the meaning of this maneuver at all ...
14 aircraft and

eight nursing teams

The outfit of our specialists on the video of television channels is surprising - a cloak from the OZK, goggles and disposable mask from the pharmacy! In later pictures, however, they dressed in imported costumes. And a bunch of questions: Why only Bergamo? What do we have there? Whom do IZ contain in nursing homes, what do I need to send to the RF Ministry of Defense group? Could do with guest workers from car washes?

[svp67]

Quote: Azis

And a bunch of questions: Why only Bergamo? What do we have there?

We now have an operational base of the "anti-infectious detachment" there. The place itself was chosen by the Italians, there is the highest peak of the disease, this is the most "red zone", as NATO members say ...

Quote: Azis

Could do with guest workers from car washes?

And you could be sent, but there are things that professionals and not only washing machines should do. Based on reports from there, we are creating mathematical models for the development of the pandemic and working out plans to fight the infection

[Kapkan]

Briefing! Performance and completeness check.