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In Ukraine, allowed default

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In Ukraine, allowed default

In Ukraine, a possible default is allowed. If the Ukrainian authorities choose default as an easy answer to difficult questions, Ukraine should expect serious troubles and a collapse of the national currency. At the same time, the country's external debt will not disappear.


This idea was expressed recently resigned as Prime Minister of Ukraine Oleksiy Goncharuk in his personal Telegram channel.

He believes that a default declaration will not save Ukraine from external debts, but simply stretch their return in time. But at the same time, the country will lose access to financial resources that may soon be needed.

In this case, Ukraine expects massive unemployment and the rise of the dollar to 40 hryvnia. According to Goncharuk, default may cause the collapse of hopes for the future of ordinary Ukrainians. Therefore, Kiev should not consider even the slightest likelihood of a default being declared. It can be a blow for Ukraine, from which it will be very difficult to recover.

Goncharuk criticizes the populists, who instill in the minds of Ukrainians the idea that you can not pay debts, but rather spend the money intended for external payments on your needs and declare default:

If you imagine that this scenario will be realized, then in a year those who dream of situational benefit will curse the authorities for unemployment and poverty.

Against this background, European analysts believe that the Ukrainian economy has come close to default, and if the country does not announce it in the next few months, then this can be regarded as "either an unexpected economic miracle, or as banal stupidity."
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 26 March 2020 15: 26 New
    20
    Yes, you shoot yourself at last. And then how many years with a firearm near the temple you run.
    1. Machito
      Machito 26 March 2020 15: 32 New
      11
      Ukraine has already had a negative balance for many years, plus interest on previously taken loans, a decline in production due to a break in economic cooperation. You don’t have to be Wang to say that default is inevitable sooner or later. And the later it begins, the deeper and longer the recession in the economy will be.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 26 March 2020 16: 23 New
        +4
        Declaring default in Ukraine is Kolomoisky’s idea, which his protege Zelensky was supposed to realize when he was elected president of Ukraine. Then all sorts of oligarchs, including Kolomoisky, could bypass the people to buy up Ukraine completely and divide its territory into specific princedoms.

        Only at the same time, no one in the West will forgive Ukraine’s foreign debts of Ukraine - and the West will take Ukrainian debts to itself by Ukrainian zemstvo, i.e. reimburse itself external Ukrainian debts by the territories of Ukraine itself. And the Ukrainians themselves will drive them with a stick on the side!
        1. primaala
          primaala 26 March 2020 18: 24 New
          +4
          To default in Ukraine is Kolomoisky’s idea, which his protege Zelensky was supposed to realize
          =================
          Stupidity.
          Зеленский ставленник "консультантов" из вне. Коломойский...как и все "стриженные" НИ цент не вложит в Украину. Зеленский очередной клоун, как показатель БЕЗВЛАСТНОЙ страны.
          Консультанты нагло и цинично ВЫСМЕИВАЮТ тупость украинского народа. Это и обидно. За период от 90-х НЕ сужу народ. ИХ такими "сделала" система. Что бы вернуть славянский народ к логическому мышлению, для этого НАДО ВЫГНАТЬ "шинкованных" из РАДы. И прогнать всю пит\а-братию с Украины.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 26 March 2020 19: 51 New
            +5
            Quote: primaala
            Глупости. Зеленский ставленник "консультантов" из вне. Коломойский...как и все "стриженные" НИ цент не вложит в Украину. Зеленский очередной клоун, как показатель БЕЗВЛАСТНОЙ страны.

            Зеленский - это прежде всего ставленник Коломойского в олигархической Украине. На деньги Коломойского существовал "Квартал-95" Зеленского, на деньги Коломойского был реализован ПРЕДВЫБОРНЫЙ в президенты Украины проект-агитка - фильм "Слуга народа". И т.д., и т.п.
            And the Kolomoisky family itself lives in Switzerland - this is also a kind for Ukraine OUTSIDE!
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 26 March 2020 19: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: Tatiana
          To default in Ukraine is Kolomoisky’s idea ...

          hi
          Many political scientists and former lieutenants besides Goncharuk speak about the default in / in the former Ukraine, as an indisputable fact. Indirectly - Tymoshenko, but she senses something that smells:

          And Sergei Semashko prophesies bluntly about the inevitability of default:

          И Вы правы, за все эти мерзопакости Киева придётся рассчитываться кровным украинским "хатаскрайщикам".
      2. venik
        venik 26 March 2020 17: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        And the later it begins, the deeper and longer the recession in the economy will be.

        =======
        good drinks Ну значит нас как минимум двое! И оба - бородатые! Интересно: а "борода" - это что? Умение анализировать ситуацию и делать прогнозы??? Может тогда ВСЕХ аналитиков и политологов заставить бороды отращиваь??? А что, посмотрите:
        Political scientist Pogrebinsky:

        Political scientist Ohrimenko:

        political scientist Korovin:

        Political scientist Bakov:

        Conclusion: There is tremendous analytical power lurking in the board! (PS I've been wearing Beard for 40 years !!! laughing ) drinks
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 26 March 2020 17: 52 New
          0
          Quote: venik
          Conclusion: There is tremendous analytical power lurking in the board! (PS I've been wearing Beard for 40 years !!!

          The man is decorated with a beard. ©
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 26 March 2020 18: 18 New
            +4
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            Quote: venik
            Conclusion: A huge analytical power lurks in the beard! (PS I've been wearing Beard for 40 years !!!

            The man is decorated with a beard. ©

            good
            Warms in the cold
            Beard. © laughing

            Instead of gas and coal in boiler rooms ...
          2. venik
            venik 26 March 2020 18: 42 New
            0
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            The man is decorated with a beard. ©

            ==========
            Especially - over the years, the hair on the head is getting less .... And on the chin - more !!!! laughing
        2. primaala
          primaala 26 March 2020 18: 15 New
          0
          Вопрос имею. Где проживают в данный момент, Вами упомянутые? Если на Украине и свободно перемещаются, невольно вопрос напрашивается - "как посмели"!? Многие помнят...за своедумие того же Бузины. Азаров тоже НЕ .
          However, he is forced to live outside Ukraine.
          In Ukraine, there has long been no right to speech.
        3. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 26 March 2020 18: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: venik
          Conclusion: There is tremendous analytical power lurking in the board!

          I’ll clarify. And intelligence. hi
        4. Machito
          Machito 26 March 2020 19: 37 New
          +1
          Very funny about the beard. Amazed from the heart. laughing lol
          My surname is Borodachev. I'm waiting for jokes about my last name.
          1. malyvalv
            malyvalv 26 March 2020 22: 05 New
            +2
            You can always be understood and forgiven.
      3. antivirus
        antivirus 26 March 2020 19: 14 New
        -2
        negative balance, plus interest on previously taken loans, decline in production due to a break in economic cooperation

        -It would be good to provide assistance from Russia to the non-brothers -for the real trifle-landing for 5-10-15 years of the initiators of the Maidan and the failed economy policy.
        I would agree to give money to the non-brothers for this.
      4. CSKA
        CSKA 27 March 2020 10: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        Ukraine has already had a negative balance for many years, plus interest on previously taken loans, a decline in production due to a break in economic cooperation. You don’t have to be Wang to say that default is inevitable sooner or later. And the later it begins, the deeper and longer the recession in the economy will be.

        Well, their trade balance was always negative, as well as in many countries, but otherwise I agree with you. In fact, they already have a technical default.
    2. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy 26 March 2020 15: 33 New
      +2
      They simply attract attention to themselves, but now everyone is not up to the outskirts. repeat
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 26 March 2020 15: 39 New
        +5
        In Ukraine, allowed default

        Wow ! belay И "Ще не вмэрла" не помогла recourse request .

        Вместо "Сала украини" - "Хана украини"...
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 26 March 2020 16: 04 New
          +4
          Quote: Insurgent
          In Ukraine, allowed default

          Wow ! belay И "Ще не вмэрла" не помогла recourse request .

          Вместо "Сала украини" - "Хана украини"...

          Rather, a khan to the creditors of Ukraine. Ukraine has borrowed someone’s money, but doesn’t want to give it back. Anyway, Ukraine will not see any investment either by default or without default. So only creditors will lose. Yes, and now is such a time in connection with recent events that Ukraine is very likely to be far from the only country to default.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 26 March 2020 16: 10 New
            +9
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            Rather, Khan lenders of Ukraine.

            To me (sponsors of the power aggressor), it’s violet to me.
            The main thing is that the final collapse of the ex-Ukraine gives hope for the speedy release of Donbass.
          2. major147
            major147 26 March 2020 16: 49 New
            +4
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            So only creditors will lose.

            Yeah, crap! They also pulled out gold teeth from the corpse!
          3. Lelek
            Lelek 26 March 2020 19: 34 New
            0
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            Rather, a khan to lenders of Ukraine. Ukraine has borrowed someone’s money, but doesn’t want to give it back.

            hi
            The money was borrowed under the bill by the former Ukraine, the oligarchs and bankers communized, and the casserolegol aborigines with their blood will pay the bills. Here is such a scheme. yes
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 27 March 2020 11: 11 New
              +1
              Quote: Lelek
              Here is a scheme.

              It’s not clear how you attributed Rinat Akhmetov to Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv.
              Kolomoisky has much more influence in Dnepropetrovsk, and not in Zaporozhye.
              1. Lelek
                Lelek 27 March 2020 16: 10 New
                +1
                Quote: CSKA
                CSKA


                This is a scheme for placing the assets of oligarchs in the territory of the former Ukraine, and not political influence.
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 31 March 2020 09: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: Lelek
                  This is a scheme for placing the assets of oligarchs in the territory of the former Ukraine, and not political influence.

                  U What are Akhmetov’s assets in Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv? Kolomoisky has assets in Ivano-Frankivsk.
          4. CSKA
            CSKA 27 March 2020 11: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            Rather, Khan lenders of Ukraine.

            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            So only creditors will lose.

            The IMF Khan or something?)))) This is unlikely.)))) Lenders always get their own. Moreover, everyone will receive dill from the pseudo-state.
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 26 March 2020 18: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          In Ukraine, allowed default

          Wow ! belay И "Ще не вмэрла" не помогла recourse request .

          России не верили, говорили "кремлёвская пропаганда" и "киселёвские страшилки".

          Until they thought of it themselves.
          Giraffe with Estonians in second or third place.

          And even the fact that in the 90s we went their current way of worshiping the West, that in the 98th they paid for it and became smarter - even this does not convince them. We must taste it ourselves.
          Well, go ahead ....
      2. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 26 March 2020 15: 49 New
        +1
        Well, there’s a complete hell
        На Украине задумались попросить у России помощи для борьбы с коронавирусом. Об этом в среду заявил депутат Верховной рады Вадим Рабинович. По его словам, Киеву пора прекратить заигрывания со своими «стратегическими партнерами» на Западе, которые не выполняют своих обещаний перед Украиной. Об этом сообщает "Рамблер". Далее: https://news.rambler.ru/world/43912838/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
        1. HAM
          HAM 26 March 2020 16: 25 New
          +6
          "Ну,что,сынку,помогли тебе твои ляхи!?"@
          History does not seem to have taught anything to some ......
          1. Honest Citizen
            Honest Citizen 26 March 2020 16: 32 New
            +3
            History is always repeated, in the form of farce. And then there will be such a farce that all authors of immortal comedies are simply envious.
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 26 March 2020 18: 32 New
            +3
            Quote: HAM
            "Ну,что,сынку,помогли тебе твои ляхи!?"@
            History does not seem to have taught anything to some ......

            Yes, if only not for the classics - they looked at us from the sample of the 90s. No, bite yourself, try hunting. Well, bon appetit.
          3. Lelek
            Lelek 26 March 2020 19: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: HAM
            "Ну,что,сынку,помогли тебе твои ляхи!?"

            hi
            This question was answered recently by Ukrainian political scientist Pogrebinsky:
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 26 March 2020 16: 35 New
      +1
      Trump forbids to default, he wants to see how everyone who poured water on him during the election will now sing, praying to the United States, and him, the trump to save Ukraine. ..
    4. major147
      major147 26 March 2020 16: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, you shoot yourself at last.

      А я требую "продолжения банкета!" Слишком легко хотят отделаться....
    5. primaala
      primaala 26 March 2020 16: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, you shoot yourself at last. And then how many years with a firearm near the temple you run.

      You pay attention !!! how many answered you !!! (G-di forgive) I write and smile))
      (let everyone live, God's creatures).
  2. Gene84
    Gene84 26 March 2020 15: 28 New
    10
    Against this background, European analysts believe that the Ukrainian economy has come close to default,

    this is to be expected. the country lives on western handouts. what except default can it expect?
    if the country does not announce it in the next few months

    will not be announced.
    1. Kume u
      Kume u 26 March 2020 16: 29 New
      +4
      It is necessary to default in Ukraine, anyway all loans power plunders! We do not need any loans, help. Everybody is stealing budget money in the country - the heads of villages, districts, regions, mayors and heads of all branches of the army, the polls have reached an absolute degree. West with the IMF that does not understand that loans are stolen? For this, they declared Decommunization so that the people would not remember that it was possible to live a different and corresponding responsibility. An honest court is needed, only through landings you can restrain presumptuous officials, you have enough of your money, you just need to properly manage them.
      1. Gato
        Gato 26 March 2020 17: 22 New
        +4
        I need a fair trial

        Why will they judge themselves? No, the court will be honest only as in 1917-1918
  3. Fishery
    Fishery 26 March 2020 15: 31 New
    +2
    when it survived the default, and did not notice) the population whose patches are enough for food and communal apartment close to each other, in principle, neither cold nor hot.
  4. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 26 March 2020 15: 31 New
    +2
    Waltzman has money.
  5. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 26 March 2020 15: 31 New
    +4
    Nothing wrong. They’ll go to the EU, butts will wash again and again, with money and in embroidered shirts.
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 26 March 2020 15: 33 New
    +8
    Достижения революции "Гнидности".)))
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 26 March 2020 15: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Достижения революции "Гнидности".)))

      Not yet reached, but moving confidently. This is just one of the stages on the way to the main achievement, namely, the zeroing of such a concept as the state of Ukraine.
  7. Avior
    Avior 26 March 2020 15: 34 New
    +1
    article key phrase
    resigned prime minister

    it would be nice to make this detail in the title
    это как тоже "ушедший с поста премьер-министра" Михаил Касьянов рассказывает о планах нынешнего правительства России
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 26 March 2020 15: 47 New
      +1
      Ну что тут поделаешь, если здравые мысли и критичный взгляд у политиков, как правило, появляются исключительно с появлением приставки - "экс" и только после того как они оставят должность.
      1. Avior
        Avior 26 March 2020 16: 35 New
        -1
        Something did not notice that Kasyanov was quoted to explain what and how
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 26 March 2020 15: 51 New
      +1
      And I also noticed that ALL ex and ex immediately become smart and insightful)
      1. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 26 March 2020 15: 53 New
        +2
        And not only in Ukraine. All over the world.
        As soon as the ex - brain begins to activate
  8. evgen1221
    evgen1221 26 March 2020 15: 41 New
    -1
    Here, rather, blackmail of the West is more likely, we don’t care that you have a crisis there, but since they started to support 404 with dough, we’re waiting and not .... We wow, we’ll be the most to support the pants of the oligarchs drag the west.
  9. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 26 March 2020 15: 42 New
    +6
    Yes, everything is normal, they will wear lace underpants in the EU, dreams come true!
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 26 March 2020 15: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Yes, everything is fine, they’ll wear lace underpants

      This is not lace laughing - HOLE lol
  10. knn54
    knn54 26 March 2020 15: 51 New
    +2
    Wanted to Europe, however.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 26 March 2020 15: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: knn54
      Wanted to Europe, however.

      Went down laughing yes
  11. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 26 March 2020 15: 56 New
    10
    What Ukrainians do not do, things are not going
    It can be seen on the Maidan their mother gave birth.

    То что в шумерии происходит не смешно, а грустно. Как "западные партнеры" опустили некогда богатую страну до состояния нищего хутора, а население до фанатичных селян.
    1. Avior
      Avior 26 March 2020 16: 59 New
      +1
      I don’t know
      The average salary in Ukraine is 32000 rubles, the minimum is 13.
      Things are going badly and salaries are rising
      Paradoxical situation
      1. Gato
        Gato 26 March 2020 17: 25 New
        -1
        Things are going badly and salaries are rising

        Salaries grow slowly in hryvnias. Bucks are growing faster, and prices even faster. No paradoxes.
        1. Avior
          Avior 26 March 2020 19: 07 New
          +3
          No matter how it grows very slowly, it grows just quite noticeably.
          The average salary in hryvnias has changed so in January 2016 the average is 4362 hryvnias, in January 2020 - 10727 hryvnias.
          That is, the average 2,5 times increased over 4 years.
          The minimum wage in hryvnias has changed so- 1378 hryvnias in January 2016, in January 2020 - 4723 hryvnias.
          That is, the minimum 3,5 times increased over 4 years.
          The hryvnia exchange rate to the dollar since 2016 is practically unchanged, floats in the corridor 26 + _ 2 hryvnias
          But pensions in Ukraine are growing really slowly.
          It seems that the outflow of workers abroad stimulates wage growth.
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 26 March 2020 17: 48 New
        -3
        Salary in \ already in rubles?)
        I missed something, is there already a real Ukrainian people's republic?)
        1. Avior
          Avior 26 March 2020 18: 50 New
          +2
          divide by 2,75, if it’s more convenient for you in hryvnias
      3. Fishery
        Fishery 26 March 2020 18: 13 New
        0
        do not spoil the mood of people))))) and then the greatness pales) the size of the average sn in the Russian Federation and Ukraine is about the same.
        1. Avior
          Avior 26 March 2020 19: 17 New
          0
          far back to Russia
          The average in Russia in January 2020 is 46 thousand rubles.
          True, there is a large spread across the regions - in the Yamalo-Nenets under a hundred thousand, and in Altai 26.
          1. Fishery
            Fishery 26 March 2020 19: 30 New
            +1
            Well, I won’t argue)) but the salary of 500 bucks is the most ordinary, and yes the average for the Russian Federation is about 40000, it is about 14000 hryvnias, only without oil and gas, in general, the standard of living is not radically different, I lived and worked in the Russian Federation , a friend lived in Kemerovo, there I thought I paid higher salaries, like Siberia, and they get 30 on average, sadness. You can always google jobs and everything will become clear) well, over time, the dollar exchange rate in each country will grow differently, and it will be possible compare in more detail.
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 27 March 2020 11: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: Tonya
              but the salary of 500 bucks is the most ordinary, and yes the average for the Russian Federation is about 40000, it's about 14000 hryvnias

              No need to transfer one money to another. This is completely wrong. In Germany, the average is 3 thousand euros and if they are converted into rubles, then this is an impressive amount, but this is completely different money in the Russian Federation and Germany. In the Russian Federation, you can safely live 3-4 months, and Germany a month.
              I’ll tell you as yet a citizen of Ukraine that I know perfectly well which zp in Kiev and which in Rostov, Krasnodar, Simferopol and Moscow. I don’t have a single friend or acquaintance who would receive less than 50 thousand in these cities. There are only women friends with zp 30 thousand, but all of them husbands earn well and one person can easily live on 30 thousand renting an apartment.
  12. Karaul14
    Karaul14 26 March 2020 15: 59 New
    0
    Гончарук это кто? Премьер, который потерял работу, за то что в сеть слили голосовые запись, где он говорит, что он "профан в экономике". А теперь он делает экономические прогнозы? Я смотрю у вас новая мулька, раньше было "Украина замерзнет", а теперь тепло, надо же было что-то другое придумать.
    1. Rakovor
      Rakovor 26 March 2020 16: 08 New
      -1
      So you do not even have others.))
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 26 March 2020 16: 52 New
      0
      But now they’re not ignoramuses, they have collected debts for 100500 years and borrowed loans, there is no dough for life, but there is a continuation of the civil war, they imposed sanctions against the Russian Federation, ditching all production, they themselves decide nothing, they live in occupation, like a mongrel on a chain hawking the landlords scraps.
  13. Looking for
    Looking for 26 March 2020 16: 05 New
    0
    The official who kicked out a kick in the ass. Yet and can not tell such a thing. Therefore, hoping for it is not worth it .. But to systematically bring the neighbor to this state is real.
  14. Naval
    Naval 26 March 2020 16: 15 New
    -1
    Кто их спрашивать будет? Как и "обкоме" заклятых друзей скажут так и будет. Они уже давно сами ни чего не решают!
  15. Sergey_33
    Sergey_33 26 March 2020 16: 17 New
    -1
    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    chance

    Well, as if the fellow is still e
  16. Nasrat
    Nasrat 26 March 2020 16: 21 New
    0
    In Ukraine, allowed default
    Of course, they admit that all the reserves spent on keeping the hryvnia exchange rate ... did not expect that they would give up so quickly ...
  17. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 26 March 2020 16: 24 New
    -1
    В 2020 году хунте надо выплатить 17,059 млрд.долларов из которых 13,06 основная сумма долга и 3,99 млрд.проценты по нему. Золото-валютный резерв украины, на всё про всё, около 27 млрд.долларов. Пора Зеленскому свой хор направить "щеневмерлу" петь под окнами МВФ, может быть на транш какой никакой напоют.
  18. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 26 March 2020 16: 30 New
    -1
    hopes for the future of ordinary Ukrainians.

    Probably only Plankton, who believes in local propaganda, has hope for the future.
    1. Kume u
      Kume u 26 March 2020 16: 32 New
      +1
      Ordinary Ukrainians go to work in large numbers, no one relies on the local government.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 26 March 2020 16: 34 New
        0
        There is only hope somewhere to dump, preferably never returning.
  19. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 March 2020 16: 33 New
    +1
    Дефолт был неизбежен. Вот клоуна под него и подставили... "Слили" американцы целую страну...в унитаз.
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 26 March 2020 16: 54 New
      -1
      I hear about the problems of Ukraine somewhere like this since the year 1651, that is, the 4th hundred years:
      then Khmelnitsky, then Mazepa and further down the list- Getmanat, Directory, Muravyov
      Бендера и т. д. А она "ще не вмерла" никак. Ну надоело, ребята, правда. Как только
      in some dullness massive diarrhea happens - on the front pages we write
      thrice: ALL KHANA UKRAINE (look at the main pages of VO - daily 2-3
      top heading -Ukraine, IN what, the Ukrainian foreign media? -so Ukrainians
      Do not read VO?). Well, she’ll be screwed up and there it means ... good luck.
      Yellow media is god with them, but let's get closer to the profile of the site.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 26 March 2020 20: 47 New
        -2
        Quote: Kushka
        I hear about the problems of Ukraine somewhere like this since the year 1651, that is, the 4th hundred years:
        But you are however an old-timer!
        Quote: Kushka
        то Хмельницкий,то Мазепа и далее по списку- Гетьманат, Директория, Муравьев. Бендера и т. д. А она "ще не вмерла" никак.
        Дык ладно бы всё это время она развивалась и "щеневмерила" сама по себе, а то ведь жила и жировала только благодаря России и за счёт России. Ну вот, состоялась бандеровская мечта о незалэжности в 1991 году и украина "отбившись от рук" вырвалась на простор! И что? Теперь ништяк?! Ковбасу на сало мажут? Нет. Людей убивают за то, что они на мове говорить не хотят. Развалили, распродали и растащили всё что могли! Доходят до края и крайности в своём националистическом угаре. Скоро, спустят под ноль завоевания не одного поколения предков, распродадут земли и будут жить на них в аренду. Там нужен дефолт и ластик, что бы обанкротив украинствующую и фашиствующую хунту, стереть это 29 летнее, несостоявшееся, государственное недоразумение с политической карты и начертать новые границы. Ходить с факелами и орать речёвки о том, что они там "то поднадусе, то подвсемиктони" хватит и пары-тройки десятков хуторов со своим гетьманом в каждом из них, а остальным территориям надо обеспечить возвращение к нормальной человеческой жизни, что возможно только через разрушение этого, искусственно созданного, образования.
      2. malyvalv
        malyvalv 26 March 2020 22: 13 New
        +1
        Given the situation in the Donbass, the analysis of the situation in Ukraine is the most relevant topic for HE.
  20. Round Smesharik
    Round Smesharik 26 March 2020 16: 54 New
    -5
    It is unlikely that the United States will allow this, they will feed, and even infect and send to Russia .. So you need to be alert .. The confrontation continues!
  21. primaala
    primaala 26 March 2020 16: 56 New
    +3
    Save Ukraine, only joining Russia. They have no other way.
    Иначе "добьют" нЭньку.
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 26 March 2020 17: 09 New
      -2
      If the Russian authorities decide to feed these ropes, they will become absolute political corpses for the people.
      1. primaala
        primaala 26 March 2020 17: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: Incvizitor
        If the Russian authorities decide to feed these ropes, they will become absolute political corpses for the people.

        Ukraine is able to feed itself. With proper organization ...
        1. Kushka
          Kushka 26 March 2020 17: 41 New
          0
          Shcherbitsky for a single crop of 50 million tons (1 ton per capita) received a Hero.
          In 2019, Ukraine SOLD 62 million tons, and a total of 92.
          Yes, not horse feed, as they say.
          The scheme, as in Russia, a dozen oligarchs, grandmothers in offshore (and children there).
          Остальным 900-1200 грн. пенсии и "денег нет, вы там держитесь"
    2. Kushka
      Kushka 26 March 2020 17: 21 New
      -3
      Yes, how many times to attach it -1651, 1918, 1939 - it is so fluent
      (fell off again in 1991) This is such a fun, will we continue?
      In 1918, Lenin wept for bread and bread. Today, Russia is a global supplier of grain!
      And what else is there there, well, so that without this in any way, the khan of Russia?
      Или "щоб було" (еще вариант "понадкусюю"). Ага, понял - бесценные кадры-
      specialists in washing some places in unlimited quantities.
      And what is relevant:
      Martians flew to Earth after the virus, one asks:
      and on this planet everyone died?
      They answer him - yes, but what all of them .. were clean!
  22. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 26 March 2020 17: 12 New
    +1
    In Ukraine, allowed default

    The default of Ukraine will allow the people to finally decide who will live in which country.
  23. cniza
    cniza 26 March 2020 17: 20 New
    +2
    If you imagine that this scenario will be realized, then in a year those who dream of situational benefit will curse the authorities for unemployment and poverty.


    What a clever man suddenly became ...
  24. Gato
    Gato 26 March 2020 17: 28 New
    0
    No no no. First land, and then at least default, at least 3 Maidan, at least with a forelock apstenu (or kuliavlob)
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 26 March 2020 18: 01 New
      +1
      The hegemon is cunning and treacherous - he knows how to drag Russia into the slippery (as with the SDA).
      Georgia for a string of derg, Poland for a string of derg, Ukraine for a string of derg, now
      and Belarus - derg (despite the fact that they themselves are all together and individually
      for them an empty place - won the Greeks for 100 billion, and ukram at 1,5 billion and then
      discuss for half a year - we’ll give, but no, we won’t.) And Russia is breaking the chain
      with a hoof beats .... here is the goal and achieved - to bring discord - once, concentrate
      Russia in the fuss in his garden, two. And Hegemon will rule the world globally.
      You cannot fall into hysteria due to the loss of a pawn, since you never win a game.
      Do not you see - they breed and do it openly
      And with Mother Tsarina, Russian eskadars stood in San Francisco. Is it time for Russia
      return to global issues, regain world authority. And then about
      garden (Ukraine) You will forget to speak, everything will form itself.
  25. IL-64
    IL-64 26 March 2020 17: 34 New
    +1
    Speaking of default. What's up with the Russian three yards?
    1. Avior
      Avior 26 March 2020 19: 18 New
      0
      They are suing, however.
  26. iouris
    iouris 26 March 2020 17: 49 New
    0
    What an importance. By the fall, so many states will default. The default is the United States or China.
  27. Frol
    Frol 26 March 2020 18: 00 New
    -1
    Дефолт ,дефолту рознь..Есть опасная ситуация обворуют окраину и повесят на Россию..Типо ваши "братья" вот и разбирайтесь с ними..
    A serious epidemic can begin there .. They love to wash toilets in Europe, etc. And no vaccinations, etc. long gone.
    И рванут они все к нам и уже проскальзывают "не виноватые мы "...
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 26 March 2020 19: 40 New
      -1
      I think, after all, in 30 years there’s nothing to take. Want a joke:
      Three men, a Russian, a Ukrainian, and a Jew decided at least once in their life
      climb on Everest (and then die is not a pity).
      They sold the latter, arrived, bought a license and climbed.
      And then there was 50 m, and then a blizzard. Well sat, Russian and speaks-
      was not, I climbed. He crawls out, and there Eti sits, a tool with soap
      processes, so I just need you, he says. Eti did what he wanted
      Russian tears and silence (uncomfortable) - everything speaks normally. Ukrainian is me
      schcho, pennies for nothing, and climbed himself. There the procedure is the same.
      A Ukrainian comes down, a Jew to him, well, everything is fine, he says.
      A Jew climbed, they hear, but he yells. Ukrainian, jumped up and walks nervously,
      there, here. Russian asks - what are you doing. And he - you see, it’s a pity
      Izyu, I’ve got carried away by Yeti, he’ve stolen soap.
      И ТУТ НЕ РАСТЕРЯЛСЯ! А Вы говорите - "окраину обворуют"
      - after Gunpowder, after Janick and further on the list until 91 years old?
      1. Frol
        Frol 26 March 2020 19: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: Kushka
        I think, after all, in 30 years there’s nothing to take.

        Chernozem remained and the girls .. hi
        A joke is not very ..

        This joke is walking ... angry
  28. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 March 2020 18: 09 New
    -1
    In Ukraine, a possible default is allowed. Ukraine should expect serious trouble and the collapse of the national currency.
    Oh, cross yourself! repeat There is a garnish clown Zelensky, connect Gordon and voila, everything is in chocolate or is it not chocolate ...... request
  29. NF68
    NF68 26 March 2020 19: 22 New
    0
    Has it really begun to come to light that a shining disk in the sky is not a bright future for Ukraine within the EU, but a copper basin, which, if not all, then very much, can cover itself in Ukraine?
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  31. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 26 March 2020 20: 19 New
    -2
    In Ukraine wassat "дефолт negative" - воспринимают как "потерю девственности good "... выбирают - с кем hi When what under what circumstances ... drinkswhether marriage proposal will follow love , (EU accession). Ukraine wassat пытается как можно дольше "кушать, пить и танцевать fellow " за счёт "доброго дяди bully " (сша) и его "друзей bully bully " (ЕС) - "потеря девственности good " (дефолт negative ) will be very painful ... belay
  32. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 26 March 2020 20: 56 New
    -1
    Ukraine state only on paper! The colony.
  33. Mikhail Drabkin
    Mikhail Drabkin 26 March 2020 21: 04 New
    -4
    It seems that Russia will have to save Ukraine ... perhaps Belarus and Kazakhstan.
    The stronger Russia is in the struggle and victory over the virus, the stronger is the centripetal force in restoring Russia's role in the post-Soviet space.
    Geography is fate ....
    The victory over the virus is the goal of this generation of the Russian, similar to the victory of the Soviet People in the Second World War.
    And the world after this mandatory victory will be different!
    The people of Russia are invincible in the trials of war, but the main thing is that the authorities should be ready, in growth and determination, for this challenge.
    Health, good luck, confidence in victory to all of you!
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 26 March 2020 22: 37 New
      -2
      Well, they’ve already saved as much as possible since 1651.
  34. Motorist
    Motorist 26 March 2020 21: 37 New
    0
    The default was already - at the end of the 15th came so imperceptibly; because those 3 billion - not the one who needs 3 billion ...
  35. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 27 March 2020 10: 42 New
    -1
    The fall of the hryvnia from 28 to 40 hryvnia per dollar is not a default. We had similar events in 2008, and this was not considered a default. The default is like in 1998, when the ruble fell from 6 to 22 rubles per dollar and prices instantly soared 4 times. This is the default!
  36. Alexey Gusev_4
    Alexey Gusev_4 27 March 2020 20: 47 New
    -1
    When the people have nothing more to take away, he laughs.
    I don’t give a damn, I don’t give a damn, I’m tired of fighting,
    I don’t know anything, my hut is on the edge.
    You are Erema, I am Thomas, you are my word, I are the two
    And I’ll stuff your thyme with a little shirt.
    You are a people and I am a people, but my darling is waiting for me at home,
    Oh, I’m her dear come sagitiryu.
  37. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 29 March 2020 14: 25 New
    0
    Default is good. Kolomoisky said. I believe Bene.