For whom is the new Constitution?

So, we have a month left until the moment we have to express our will about the sudden and urgent amendments to the Constitution. It seems like our opinion is worth something and deciding something.

The task was clearly set: to get acquainted with all the amendments to the Constitution and make an analysis: which ones will be harmful, which ones will be useful, and which ones about nothing.

Thoughtful reading of ALL amendments took a very decent amount of time, and this is what I would like to tell you after reading and comprehending.

I do not understand, to be honest, because of what such a noise.

No, if you accept the point of view that all this was conceived for the sake of zeroing, then yes, everything is in order. But was it worth it to fence such a garden?

In principle, all amendments can be grouped into three heaps.

First one. About the state system. In principle, nothing of such vital importance, I don’t know how we lived without the fact that only Moscow can be the capital, and only Russian can be the only common language. But somehow they lived here.

The second one. Arrangement "for the people." In general, all this is there in laws and codes, why it is necessary to introduce it into the Constitution is difficult to understand. The same controversial lawmaking as the first pile.

The third. President and state apparatus. Well yes, everything is pretty useful there. President and senior officials. This all doesn’t concern us at all, because if some next president wants to change everything, I think he will do it all in much the same way as Putin. With the same ease.

In general, I did not find any such stunning innovations. In principle, I agree that amendments, following the time, must be introduced. Gradually, not freaking out, without all this hype.

But how can we do this? Not. We need to take and plump before the people in the style of "vote, or lose." Amendments must be urgently adopted, or ...

However, we’ll talk about these “or” at the end, but for now we’ll rummage around in heaps.

First pile.

Articles 1, 68, 69, 70, 71. Nothing new, except that, besides Moscow, there can be no capital anywhere else. The rest is so-so.

Article 671. This is the MOST, where the ancestors who transmitted to us ideals and faith in God, protection historical truths and children as the most important priority of the spiritual policy of the state.

The cocktail is funny and creepy at the same time. It’s impressive with just such a hodgepodge, unrelated to anything.

Article 72. This is where the institution of marriage is defined as the union of a man and a woman. Well, as we used to live without a definition, I don’t dare say, but at least the representatives of the sexes from 3 to 24 seem to shine nothing.

The first article, where something sensible flashed.

Article 75. Everything according to Zadornov, to restrain laughter is unrealistic.

“Protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble is the main function of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which it carries out independently of other government bodies.”

I looked. The dollar is almost 80, the euro is almost 86. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is doing its job. Nabiullina should be given the Hero of Labor of Russia.

Articles 751, 79, 791 are simply a jumble of letters. Higher, you know, leaders, you can’t have accounts abroad. So what? Children and other relatives can and even need. In short, about nothing.

Next, the most important thing. For the sake of what, everything was started.

Articles 81, 83, 921, 93 are devoted to the president and his opportunities. Immunity after termination of authority, appointment and so on. Everything is very interesting, but I liked only one point. I was impressed.

Article 93, paragraph 1. The President of the Russian Federation may be removed from office, and the President of the Russian Federation, who has ceased to exercise his powers, may be deprived of immunity by the Federation Council only on the basis of the charges raised by the State Duma for treason or the commission of another serious crime, confirmed by the conclusion Supreme Court of the Russian Federation on the presence in the actions of the President of the Russian Federation of both the current and the termination of the exercise of his powers crimes and the conclusion of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation on compliance with the established procedure for bringing charges.

In modern conditions, the president of Russia will not be removed from office. No way. I liked the item. True, what is there to impeachment threaten ...

Articles 95, 97,102, 103, 1031, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 117 are introduced with some changes on the topic of who appoints whom. Or takes off. In general, informative, but ...

This is not for citizens, it is a Duma-sovfederovskie showdown (theoretical), which we can not influence under any circumstances. This is not our whole business, the electorate.

Articles 118, 119, 125, 126, 128, 129 deal with the courts. Just believe, the judges had everything, is and will be fine.

The next block is devoted to local government.

Articles 131, 132, 133. Well, a little bit gave the local authorities the power to assign taxes and fees, but the rest was all about elections. How and where to choose whom.

Все.

What can I say on behalf of a person who has read everything in good faith? Honestly, boring and uninteresting. Not at all interesting.

No, of course, that children - this is the main component of spiritual development - it is wonderful. That the Russian language will be the main one, and national minorities have the right to study in their native language, is also delightful. That the family is a union of a man and a woman I welcome.

Creating conditions for a decent upbringing of children in the family, as well as for adult children to take care of their parents - yes, of course. It just needed to be written in the Constitution that children should take care of their parents.

97% of amendments to the Constitution exclusively affect the president, the State Duma, the government, the Federation Council, the Constitutional Court, lower courts, officials. How they will elect, appoint, remove and so on.

In general, just a slight restructuring of the existing system of power "for themselves." Under a long and happy rule for the good of Russia.

Did not impress.

Okay, Putin is happy with those who have started all this. We know them, heroes both in the literal and figurative sense of the word. Timchenko, Rotenberg, Sechin, Miller, Deripaska and so on.

The entire Belgorod region, for example, is hung with banners "Our choice - Our country - Our Constitution."

Now, having studied all these amendments, I now understand on behalf of whom all these banners are. And whose country is this, whose Constitution is.

Of course, it would be nice to return the status of the subsoil back, so that not only Sechin and Miller would be rich. Yes, let them get rich, since Putin believes that a million a day is a normal salary. No problem. It’s not for me to argue, I’m the very Putin “middle class” who receives more than 17, so I won’t even open my mouth, the gills will dry up.

But in general, as a citizen, it is completely uninteresting for me how the president will propose candidates to his hand-held State Duma and how this State Duma will unanimously vote “for”. All this has already passed, it is incredibly gray and boring.

This is all for them.

And for us:

“In the Russian Federation, conditions are created for sustainable economic growth of the country and improving the welfare of citizens, for mutual trust between the state and society, guaranteeing the protection of the dignity of citizens and respect for people of work, ensuring a balance of rights and obligations of the citizen, social partnership, economic, political and social solidarity.”

Yes, this is for the people. Incredible surprise of all ranks, from Putin to the governors that “suddenly” gasoline prices jumped. In Europe and America, down, and with us, up.

And right there the gas traders came in for subsidies. Well, coronavirus, the demand for gasoline has fallen. Give me the money.

And what, steady economic growth. Way down. And improving the welfare of citizens. Now it’s clear which, I hope? Under which everything and everything is added.

Well, the cherry on the cake - this:

“The provision of part 3 of Article 81 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, limiting the number of terms during which the same person may hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation, applies to a person holding and (or) holding the office of the President of the Russian Federation, without taking into account the number of terms, in the course of which it occupied and (or) occupies this position at the time the amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation enters into force, introducing an appropriate restriction, and does not exclude the possibility for it to hold the office of the President Of the Russian Federation within the time limits allowed by this provision. ”

In general, to me all this is completely uninteresting to me. This clowning with pouting cheeks. This Constitution, which no one will enforce in places where enforcement will not bring preferences.

And in general, I doubt that after the next successful victory of Putin in the elections, at least someone will even remember the Constitution.

The main thing, of course, is to ensure the continuity of power. From one Putin to another. I have already made sure that the promises that Putin made at that term in office are not binding on IT. Well, nothing, the main thing is stability.

Stable impoverishment as well.

I can imagine how together we all will begin to "grow fat" in Putin's way at 100 rubles per dollar. Obesity nationwide will begin. It has already begun. At prices. Thanks to everyone who, according to the Constitution, is obliged to keep the ruble and provide the country with prosperity. The effort is visible to the naked eye.

Total Someone will go to think about how useful this is. Someone will vote in favor, because thinking is too difficult. Understanding is even more difficult.

I did not see the promised changes that would benefit all citizens of Russia. Alas. I saw exclusively the restructuring of power.

To be completely uninteresting, to be honest. Unpromising for 99% of the population.

Comments

[Pessimist22]

It's simple: “When robbery becomes a way of life for a group of people living together in society, then over time they create a legal system that legalizes it and glorifies its moral code.”

Frederic Bastia (1801–1850), French liberal economist. "Economic sophisms."

[bessmertniy]

The theft of the country in the early 1990s did not find consolidation in the Russian constitution. It seems that now the moment has come when our elite has decided that the time has come to legitimize the stolen constitutional amendments.

[Private89]

Laws are written by the ruling class, so as soon as the class in power changes, all of their philkines of letters and fig sheets with which they hide behind go to the dustbin of history, along with those who wrote them. So there is nothing reinforced concrete in this life. And the disappearance of the USSR is a big lesson to us, that’s what happens if class vigilance and the rejection of their ideals are dulled.

[210ox]

Here it is .. From the Constitution of the State they made a letter to Filkin.

[Stas157]

Roman correctly designated all these amendments - booth with swollen cheeks. There is no sense in them, except for the king’s authority to renew once again.

The king is atrocious, but wants to do it under popular approval. Rather, under his appearance. Because the opinion of the people has long been trampled upon.

[balunn]

the tsar is 68 years old ... it’s time to retire to his grandchildren, and he sets all terms to zero

[Chervonny]

Power does not let go, holds a grip

[Nicola I]

And about the amendments and their need, to think poorly?

[Freeman]

Quote: Nicola I

And about the amendments and their need, to think poorly?

And what is their need? Before them, as it were, there were enough federal laws.

[balunn]

and what is the meaning of these amendments?

[Chervonny]

Quote: Stas157

There is no sense in them, except for the king’s authority to renew once again.

This is the meaning of all the amendments. Reset and renewal. For the sake of all this all this booth was started.

[nils]

Quote: Red

For the sake of all this all this booth was started.

Hopes for a normal shift of power have been nullified for a long time. This did not happen now, but in 2012, when Putin went on a third term after the “castling”.

[Nicola I]

Liberal stamp

[DED_peer_DED]

Initially, three bones were thrown to the people: family, faith, Russian.
And, while the people will "gnaw" them and his mouth will be busy with this business (but not only this, we will add to the people - cheap oil, the fall of the ruble, the growth of gasoline and, most importantly, concern for survival itself - horror stories about the "royal virus" with winding up hysteria and organs in the streets), slowly pouring the most important thing into the constitution, under the sly, more so that they don't figure it out, don't sniff it out, don't have time ...
And further, the legitimization of the illegitimized and the people - "sit and do not bark, be a patriot" of the bergs, mans, inov, etc. with altered, modified, or simply strange and unnatural for the Russian language and ear, surnames.
People - "sit and do not bark ...", people.

[NordUral]

The king is atrocious, but wants to do it under popular approval. Rather, under his appearance. Because the opinion of the people has long been trampled upon.

I used to think that I had to go and say no to the referendum. But it turned out that there would be no referendum, instead of it an invitation to thieves to vote for amendments.
Now I join those who intend to boycott this farce. Another choice while no.

[Freeman]

Quote: NordUral

The king is atrocious, but wants to do it under popular approval. Rather, under his appearance. Because the opinion of the people has long been trampled upon.

I used to think that I had to go and say no to the referendum. But it turned out that there would be no referendum, instead of it an invitation to thieves to vote for amendments.
Now I join those who intend to boycott this farce. Another choice while no.

By your non-participation, you only express your tacit agreement with the actions of the "thieves".

[NordUral]

Buridanov donkey remembered.

[30143]

It is necessary to go, definitely. If they vote against, the "democratic forces" will raise such a gevolt, and then ... sanctions and again everything in a circle. But this thief is ours, Russian!

[NordUral]

I don’t understand a damn thing, Winnie.

[30143]

Sorry, this is for the comet Volnopera.
I can not understand the algorithm of work, why clings to other people?

[alecsis69]

Mr. Skomorokhov read all the words but could not understand the meaning, about which he wrote an article. Maybe already age?

[Arlen]

Quote: 210ox

Here it is .. From the Constitution of the State they made a letter to Filkin.

All changes to the Constitution are submitted by the authorities to talk about how healthy and rich we will heal after that. It turns out that before a good life, it remains only to vote for the amendments and that’s it, we will live better than anyone else. So right away, everything will change for the better in one moment. It will not change, everything will remain as it is ...

[Chervonny]

Quote: Arlen

It will not change, everything will remain as it is

Change, only for the worse.

[Victor N]

Understanding is the problem of the understanding. There are many areas of activity in which each of us DOES NOT WANT to understand. And God is our judge. But it is obscene to pester specialists with their judgments, knowing that they will consider it a silly and annoying bore. If I cannot imagine how to improve state power and, moreover, I am not interested in this, then I am a bad citizen, I am ashamed. But I can support (and MUST) those who know what to do and whom I respect. And I must respect those whom I put forward and elected the people in power.

[Ivan Kolodin]

And where is the constitution about improving the state system? There is just a mishanin of letters, except for zeroing the terms and immunity of the president there is nothing from the point of view of legal norms, nonsense and verbiage ...

[Victor N]

The Russian state was not created by us, but by our ancestors over the centuries. They needed it, it was useful. This is a value. Our business is to preserve and adapt to solve new problems - to increase the value of the Russian State. This YOU (!) Were unable to understand - it happens, not all universities graduate .....

[victor50]

Quote: Victor N

The Russian state was not created by us, but by our ancestors over the centuries. They needed it, it was useful. This is a value. Our business is to preserve and adapt to solve new problems - to increase the value of the Russian State. This YOU (!) Were unable to understand - it happens, not all universities graduate .....

ABOUT! Guru! If the mind itself is not enough, then it is not a fact that it is not enough for those to whom you are preaching. And such a state, unfortunately, is on our conscience. I think our ancestors did not dream of such a thing, especially not so old, in the 45th.

[Victor N]

My ancestors spent on the creation of the state and gave their lives, from the state they were waiting for protection, not goodies. It was then all come along ....

[Den717]

Quote: Victor N

Understanding is the problem of the understanding.

"If you do not want to be branded as a liar or a madman, then not everyone in the steppe tell about the high snowy peaks" (Someone, probably, has lived, seen and understood)

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Victor N

And I must respect those whom I put forward and elected the people in power.

And if their people do not choose? And they, all one - a rod? What to do ?

[Den717]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

And if their people do not choose?

There were many who wanted to prove this, but no one was able.

[victor50]

Quote: Den717

There were many who wanted to prove this, but no one was able.

Happy to cheat?

[Den717]

Quote: victor50

Happy to cheat?

Try to refute

[victor50]

Quote: Den717

Try to refute

If memory serves, the last election is somewhere in the Far East. This is from the official that it was already impossible to hide. Yes, and a lot of things can be said, for example, how the turnout in the last 2 hours of the site increases by 2-3 times. But you don’t need it. And the investigators, yes, did not prove anything, as expected.

[Den717]

Quote: victor50

If memory serves, the last election is somewhere in the Far East.

In short, you did not succeed either .... Somewhere, somehow, someone is not evidence.

[Victor N]

Until it is proved - it is CHOPPING! And violations - yes, they do.

[Revival]

Yes, I remember how live 146% of voters voted. Oh! Bad luck.
This is all you need to know about our elections, the very ones at which "the people chose" ...

[NordUral]

I did not put forward these and did not vote for them.

[Den717]

Quote: NordUral

I did not put forward these and did not vote for them.

We have democracy, so a minority will be forced to submit to the majority.

[Essex62]

Rather, the opposite. In fairness, it must be said that this is so everywhere.

[Den717]

Quote: Essex62

Rather, the opposite. In fairness, it must be said that this is so everywhere.

There is a law of sufficient reason in logic. According to which every true thought must be justified. Can you justify your claim of fairness without using the terms "believe / disbelieve"?

[Essex62]

A minority, you are backsliders and strive to bend the rest. Most, that is, What is more logical? I don't want to prove anything to you. There is no sense, the time will come, let's make it clear

[Den717]

Quote: Essex62

I don’t want to prove anything to you. There's no point.

Rather, there is no possibility. The knowledge of the subject is lacking, so the "faith" function is activated. And with this subject in general, everything is complicated. Because whoever pours something into a free space in his head will convert it to his own faith.

Quote: Essex62

The time will come let's make it clear

Probably you mean with the help of Comrade Kalashnikov? We will have counterarguments, do not worry. Although you don’t have to expect practical actions from you, because nothing except flows from under you besides an unpleasant substance. You will not leave your kitchen to do something. You don’t even know who you’re talking to, but you’re trying to threaten them with insults. Are convincing arguments over? Funny you, right.

[Essex62]

Judging by the comments, who you understand. And finish here. Your problem is that you, too, do not know who they are hanging labels hanging. A threat? No way. Historical process. Inevitably this is a huckster to the nail.
By the way, where did I insult you?

[Den717]

Quote: Essex62

Historical process. Inevitably this is a huckster to the nail.

Unfortunately, socialism lasted 74 years and ended in almost all countries where it lived. What historical process do you mean, the triumph of a market economy?

Quote: Essex62

you are not knowing who you are talking with

Are you talking about the "backbones"?

[Sirocco]

Quote: 210ox

Here it is .. From the Constitution of the State they made a letter to Filkin.

Have you read the constitutional amendments? I read, try to spend some precious time and get acquainted with the amendments, well, there’s nothing there that many people write and groan about, read gentlemen read !!!!

[Malyuta]

Quote: Private 89

Laws are written by the ruling class,

"All countries have their own mafia. But only in Russia the mafia has its own country!" (C)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Private 89

Laws are written by the ruling class

The simplest and most comprehensive answer.

[Jager]

Which of them will betray the ideals of the golden calf? Gendarmes do not sleep on social elevators.

[flicker]

all their filkin letters and fig sheets with which they are hiding will go to the dustbin of history, along with those who wrote them.

Yes, now Novaya Gazeta is being checked for the fact of cooperation with terrorists.
It’s high time to press the tails to all these grant-eaters and Western mongrels.

[Svarog]

Quote: bessmertniy

legitimize stolen constitutional amendments.

That is not .. they want to cut for life .. here they decided to change the Constitution .. and betray everything to the children .. then when that .. and grandchildren .. that’s the point ..

[Victor N]

In VO, you can identify and then catch the entire fifth column.

[Ivan Kolodin]

Exactly, but a little self-critical, but thanks for the honesty, not everyone admits that he is a traitor

[AA17]

Dear Victor N. So that you do not get confused and have a clear understanding of what the "fifth column" is, I offer you clear definitions given by Valentin KATASONOV.
"... The Russian media use the term" fifth column "in the singular. In fact, there are many such" fifth columns "in Russia. In fact, we have a multi-headed hydra in front of us, and I want to make an inventory of its heads. According to my estimates, there are at least seven.
1. Offshore aristocracy (OA) is a narrow group of people who are formally considered citizens of the Russian Federation, but in fact are "non-residents", since their capital, assets, property are outside the country ....
2. Foreign capital within the country. First, foreign companies and banks are the ideal "wallet" for financing any disruptive stock. Secondly, foreign companies and banks, at the command of the Financial International, can at any time destabilize the economic, political and social situation in the country ....
3. Media, the funds for the maintenance of which are sent from abroad or from internal sources controlled by the West ....
4. Part of a multi-million army of immigrants. Among them there are many people who arrived in the Russian Federation not so much to earn money ...
5. Non-governmental organizations (NGOs) ....
6. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) as a special extraterritorial entity ....
7. Russian banks, which since this year are subject to the requirements of the American law "On Taxation of Foreign Accounts", which makes the concept of national sovereignty in the financial sector a fiction ... ". Http://tr.rkrp-rpk.ru/get.php?5297

[Den717]

Quote: AA17

I offer you clear definitions given by Valentin KATASONOV.

I understand that the appeal is not to me, but still, who is this Katasonov to blindly listen to his sayings? Which plant did you manage? Which area from the depressive did you bring to the "donor"? What did he do with his theoretical training, apart from dissertations and teaching what he himself had never done? There are many of them, such economists-theorists, and all contradict each other. And the real business is done by completely different people. And these only broadcast ...

[Nicola I]

Katasonov is a person with a high level of understanding of reality, unlike some. And this sneaky trick is to discredit the author, but in fact he said nothing to say. Is it possible to deny that the offshore aristocracy, immigrants, and the Central Bank belong to the fifth column? It turns out there is no way to deny it, otherwise they will say-it was completely dived. Therefore, it remains an unenviable fate to take advantage of the kindergarten trick-to pour mud on the author, like you're nobody, and who am I!

[Den717]

Quote: Nikola I

Katasonov a person with a high level of understanding of reality

What practical is this understanding. You answer specifically, where were Katasonov’s theories put into practice? No dirt, bring the facts.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Den717

But completely different people are engaged in real affairs.

Are these rotenbergs with timchens and sechins or something? Or maybe the Mordashevs with Deripaska, the Michelsons with the Abramovichs and Somanov’s, and the Kerimka?
Do these heroes do things? Well, they’ve already done 5 VSWs for each.

[Den717]

Quote: Malyuta

Are these rotenbergs with timchens and sechins or something?

At least Rotenberg built a bridge, Sechin produces oil. And from theorists what? Tons of wood spent on paper, economic theories and doctrines on which no one can build anything practical. From them, there is often often only one sewage voltage.

[Victor N]

Katasonov - little authority. And the list of enemies of the state, to put it mildly, is not unconditional.

[Nicola I]

Another overthrower of authorities. Then we are waiting for the "unconditional" list from the "great" authority.

[Den717]

Quote: Nikola I

Then we are waiting for the "unconditional" list from the "great" authority.

It is recommended not to create idols for yourself, to live your own mind.

[Revival]

So urgently wipe all comments, you still have a chance to hide in the taiga

[NordUral]

Appearance, victor n?

[victor50]

Quote: Victor N

In VO, you can identify and then catch the entire fifth column.

And even the sixth! Well, those who have the number "six"!

[DED_peer_DED]

That is not .. they want to cut for life .. that’s what they decided on the Constitution

out of habit - cut.

[Chervonny]

Quote: bessmertniy

the time has come - to legitimize the stolen constitutional amendments

And legalize the redistribution of property

[AAK]

Colleague, in my opinion, this is not so much an attempt to legitimize what was stolen, as an attempt to nip in the bud by intimidation any discontent of the people and the exclusion of the slightest chance for positive changes in the future. And even though Comrade Stalin is credited with the phrase "... it does not matter who votes, but it is important who thinks ...", but conscience simply does not allow voting FOR it, regardless of personal consequences ... In short, there is a systematic slide into totalitarianism for some and serfdom for others

[CTEPX]

Quote: bessmertniy

The theft of the country in the early 1990s did not find consolidation in the Russian constitution.

Yah? In your opinion, the Constitution 1993 years did not consolidate the process of plundering the country in the early 1990s?

[Far B]

In a good way, there is a criminal act, forcible seizure and retention of power. Violent - because Putin, whatever one may say, is the supreme commander in chief, the state apparatus of coercion is fully concentrated in his hands. If you try to object, they make you feel like a darling. And all of this is well understood, and therefore the indignation is only on the Internet.
But in a good way, the same FSB bodies should be aroused now, but take these businessmen under the white handles, and bring them to the frontal place, for the fun of an honest person ... So that it would be inconsistent in the future.

[Stas157]

The basic law of the country is the Constitution, under Putin the value is variable, it is decorative in nature. What can not be said about the unshakable Putin, since he, unlike the Constitution, is a constant value. Constant ... But I would like the other way around.

[Nicola I]

But what about the amendments? That is another supporter of same-sex marriage, the distribution of the territory of Russia, the management of the country by foreigners?

[Freeman]

Quote: Nicola I

But what about the amendments? That is another supporter of same-sex marriage, the distribution of the territory of Russia, management of the country by foreigners?

That is, you admit that Yeltsin, Medvedev and Putin are "foreigners" ?!
Well, at least - "foreign hirelings"?

- What a twist!

[Malyuta]

Quote: Dalny V

But in a good way, the same FSB bodies should be aroused now, but take these businessmen under the white handles, and bring them to the frontal place, for the fun of an honest person ... So that it would be inconsistent in the future.

But do they not participate in the acts of power, justifying themselves by the fact that they have an order.

[Ivan Kolodin]

Ordinary FSB officers are pulling the strap, but almost all the top leadership, unfortunately, however Soviet the KGB officers are making money, make money in every way possible, probably everyone knows one episode with cherkalin is worth it, the best roof is like an office clerk in Moscow, especially so ... Fish specifically from the rotten, they don’t allow normal and honest guys to grow ... Therefore, do not count on the FSB there your own cleaning is required and not weak ...

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Ivan Kolodin

Ordinary FSB officers are pulling the strap, but almost all the top leadership, unfortunately, however regrettably the Soviet KGB officers, make money in every way possible

And so along the entire "vertical".
The system is such that it allows an individual to go up only under a few conditions:
1. A relative, close, "your boyfriend".
2. Unscrupulousness, sycophancy, "share participation" (this is the type - devotion).
3. Meanness, spiritual callousness, attitude to people as a material (both to those and to others but all one ...).
4. Low mental abilities (so that he knew the place and did not swell).
These personal "data" are used to select the "environment", power, etc. starting from the lowest levels and higher.
Similar ones move up the existing "ladder".
Normal and honest are filtered by the "system" already at the LOWEST level! The methods are different, I will not list, we have all heard about them ...
By the way, this property of the "system" to filter people ALREADY at the very initial level, at the first stages of growth, led to the fact that, as some people write, "Putin does not see any alternatives ..." (C).
This is correct, since by the efforts of the "system" all normal people are destroyed already at the very first stages and at the country level it is easy for them to take on - there is nowhere ...

[Varyag71]

These bodies have now been sold for a long time. They have no faith

[Roman12345678]

If you try to object, they make you feel like a darling. And all of this is well understood, and therefore the indignation is only on the Internet.
And in a good way, the same bodies of the FSB would now get aroused yes, take these businessmen

Heh .. maybe even the State Duma should be outraged ?? Or do prosecutors start working in this direction ??
It’s not in vain that Putin gathered and lured them all around so that now someone would suddenly become excited .. They wouldn’t let anyone excited there for a cannon shot .. in the best case, they would shoot a bullet in the forehead .. Science would also be different ...

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Dalny V

Violent - because Putin, whatever one may say, is the supreme commander in chief, the state apparatus of coercion is fully concentrated in his hands. You try to object - and they make you feel pretty

"The state is me!"
Attributed to the French King Louis XIV (1643-1715)

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Dalny V

Violent - because Putin, whatever one may say, is the supreme commander in chief, the state apparatus of coercion is fully concentrated in his hands.

Yes, he is violent because, having come to power according to the same rules and the same terms, they decided to appropriate the right to impose laws by which this power will remain with them forever.

[flicker]

And in a good way, the same FSB bodies should be aroused now, but take these businessmen under the little white hands, and bring them to the frontal place, for fun to the honest people ...

I fully support if you mean grant eaters and grant suckers.
Grantoedami they are called people who receive money from our enemies for doing certain work for them that is harmful to the country.

[Finches]

I myself am squeezed from the couch, squeezed from the relentless struggle against the "bloody regime", I like to criticize the authorities, but in his articles Roman has completely slipped into unbridled pessimism!
I flew to Siberia just now, then I returned to Europe, what I want to say with the example of coronavirus - our authorities work calmly and without hysteria - there are public transport, everything is in stores, no one panic, no hysterical ones are accepted, like in (in) Ukraine measures, and adequate solutions ... Oil, but why Putin went 100% none of us know, but we have more reserves in the bins of the Motherland than Saudi Arabia and it’s not good for them from such a situation - but I don’t forgive the Arabs for the collapse of oil prices in the USSR — the same blow was a blow to the stomach of our then-sick state — if anyone doesn’t remember or forget. And the market was brought down not by the fact of incompleteness with the Saudis, but by their subsequent loud voices. These gallant wars of Allah, obviously in collusion with their overseas friends, began to dump long before our OPEC + agreement exited - that is, it was time to change the rules on the oil markets and stop groveling before the Saudis overseas ears grow ... And Russia already there is an opportunity for this, and Uncle Vova did it - what, what, and his strategic flair is always at his best! There, in Riyadh, two princes were immediately arrested: the king’s brother and a former heir - which suggests that not everything goes smoothly with the Saudis at the top! But most importantly, there are no queues for the dollar in Russia, no one is buying up TVs ... People are wise! Judging by the news, foreign investors are not breaking out of Russia, but on the contrary, because Russia is now the most stable place in terms of business due to the problem of the pandemic of China and the bustling Europe.
Amendments - I already wrote that I do not consider them necessary, but somehow it was necessary to beat the zeroing - and I, personally, support, let the GDP continue to drive! Russia is a huge country and not everywhere prosperous, in conditions of confrontation with the United States and its sixes, it will not survive without a firm ruler! Teddy bear is an example for all of us ... And here in America they argue - in Russia there is "Vanguard", in Russia there is "Dagger" ... not huhry muhry! In Syria, Trump has calmed down and the Turkish gopnik in Sochi flies, and not GDP in Ankara ... Who helps today prosperous Italy - Russia!
Yes, there are enough internal problems, so when were they missing? And through the prism of my life experience, I believe that for Russia socialism is a more advantageous system - with the dictatorship of the Communist Party, but since it is not there, then let there be a dictatorship of GDP ... And let’s see!

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: Finches

In his articles, the novel has really slipped into frenzied pessimism!

You wrote stupidity, to be honest. You are for Putin-well, and no one is captive, go vote. Sorry, but you have already voted for the fall of the ruble, the rise in prices, pension theft. I'll see how you ride in Europe next year, with a dollar of rubles for 120 and euros for 150.

No, of course, if Gazprom pays for you, then go for a drive.

Moreover, just don’t think that I envy you, as if I don’t have a move in Europe.

[Finches]

I wrote about our Europe I’m not allowed to travel abroad ... No, not stupidity! Compare with the crises of the late 90s and now, even in 2014 there was more stupidity - you need to get away from dollar dependence, but this is not a quick and easy way. Russia went this way after the sanction of 2014 and has already lost about $ 50 billion, but has not slipped into the chaos of the economic crisis of the 90s, or do you persistently not notice it?
And I don’t go to the polls in principle! Since 1996 ... But I will ask you a question - who will you choose, though! And I always compare through the prism of my army service - and I know what the GDP has actually been done and I understand how much it all costs ... However, a Russian is always dissatisfied with something - my brother lives in an elite house, he has 6 cars ... , yes he works a lot, but all Putin scolds! Now to build a house near Sochi, apparently, that would be right in the rear of the "enemy" to conduct their revolutionary activities!

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Finches

No, not stupid! Compare with crises of the late 90s

real Nonsense, give an example of 90s.

[Finches]

Why stupidity? Then the main problem of the person was to scrape together a loaf of bread, and now he should have a good car in the courtyard, but his wife’s car should be dull ...

[Prometey]

Quote: Finches

Why stupidity? Then the main problem of the person was to scrape together on a loaf of bread, and now he should fix the car in the courtyard of the house, and let his wife’s car burn down ..

Zadolbali you already with your machines - is that - a criterion of welfare?

[Chervonny]

Quote: Prometey

Is that a welfare criterion?

For him, yes, the criterion. And the fact that he does not notice cars on credit.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Red

And the fact that he does not notice cars on credit.

And if only cars !!! People credited at the most - I do not want.
This, this kind of modern slavery.
Slave owners are bankers, oligarchs, and power that sings along with them.
If you have any questions, I took the installment plan for the refrigerator for the last time in 1985, for 2 years. So, for information.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

If you have any questions, I took the installment plan for the refrigerator for the last time in 1985, for 2 years. So, for information.

If anything, I took a loan in 1979 at 4% for six months. How many are now offering ...
I do not see an urgent need to fall into credit bondage. For what? Feed the bankers?

[Malyuta]

Quote: ROSS 42

I do not see an urgent need to fall into credit bondage. For what? Feed the bankers?

We do not have bankers, we have bandits, they just changed their styles, the thimbles became larger, only the schemes were old.

[Finches]

No, this is a comparative contrast!

[Varyag71]

African countries are also full of cars. And also nowhere to put and traffic jams. Is this an indicator?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Varyag71

African countries are also full of cars. And also nowhere to put and traffic jams. Is this an indicator?

So, “yours” will understand this from his high bell tower? For him, apparently, it is not a criterion that in the regional center of Kuzbass, for example, there are wooden barracks and houses with stove heating and amenities in the courtyard. And the streets of Zavodskoy district are disfigured by "gypsy high-rises" selling drugs ... The true achievement of Putin’s power.

[Finches]

Have you been to African countries ... For example, Angola?

[WIKI]

Quote: Finches

Why stupidity? Then the main problem of the person was to scrape together a loaf of bread, and now he should have a good car in the courtyard, but his wife’s car should be dull ...

I would be glad together with you for such achievements. only the trouble, this is not the merit of the authorities and Putin personally, but:

Why rejoice?

[Finches]

I write 100500 times - I have something to compare with - what is the weakness of my position? I, through the prism of your life, you are yours - everything is subjective in reality, but you don’t need to juggle it, even if you personally for some reason do not like Putin ... Someone would be in his place, for example, you, why if not, they would do better and more for the people of Russia, and maybe not ... Hitler was supported by the majority of the people in 1933, but then it turned into disappointment. Or maybe the other way around - few people understand right now that Putin, with all the shortcomings, did everything right in this situation ... I don’t understand much either, but I’m satisfied with the situation today if the whole situation is assessed as a whole, and not just through the presence of buckwheat in his zashashnik. Do not worry, history is sure to, sooner or later, put everything in its place!

[WIKI]

Quote: Finches

if you evaluate the whole situation as a whole, and not just through the presence of buckwheat in your zahashnik.

I do not understand you either. Why can you assess the situation by the number of cars, while others, with "the presence of buckwheat", cannot do this? And the problem with your contradictory statements is that a state with the world's highest stratification of society has been created in Russia. Just don't say that Medvedev did it. And you are one of the elements of this stratification, defending a position from your "bell tower".

[Roman12345678]

Under Peter 1 and Catherine 2, I didn’t have a single car in my yard ..

[Malyuta]

Quote: Finches

Why stupidity? Then the main problem of the person was to scrape together a loaf of bread, and now he should have a good car in the courtyard, but his wife’s car should be dull ...

Well, let’s say that in 1917 there were a lot of horses too, and that this testified to the high prosperity of people?

[Finches]

In 1917, there were already enough cars or, as they were called, motors ...

[flicker]

Then the main problem of the person was to scrape together on a loaf of bread, and now to have a good car in the courtyard, but his wife’s car to be dull ...

That's right, and about a loaf of bread ... and about the number of cars. Everyone in the provinces already knows what a "traffic jam" is.

[Revival]

And if they can’t be compared with the very bottom of the very piece of th .., then there will be no noticeable success, and even by a millimeter

[karabas86]

If the price of oil does not rise in a year, two 90s will seem like a paradise.

[Oleg Skvortsov]

Mr. Zyablitsov. Excuse me, what state flows are riveted to? While sucking the budget womb - you will sing any thieves' power

[Finches]

I would have served this womb for almost 30 years in the army military pension called!

[Oleg Skvortsov]

It is clear that of those in the ranks we went to vote for the current government

[Finches]

You will not please the "fighters with the bloody regime"! When, before the last presidential elections, I wrote that I wasn’t going to the elections, because I think it’s the stupidest thing to do, they came running over me that it’s not right, to put it mildly, but here we’re in formation ... Yes, I led the way in elections, but part of the service only

[neri73-r]

Quote: Finches

You will not please the "fighters with the bloody regime"! When, before the last presidential elections, I wrote that I wasn’t going to the elections, because I think it’s the stupidest thing to do, they came running over me that it’s not right, to put it mildly, but here we’re in formation ... Yes, I led the way in elections, but part of the service only

Well, it was recently said to Roman, write about the technique, why about something as a layman. Ann no, everyone is struggling with rJim. I don’t even want to enter into a discussion. I almost agree with Zyablitsov. Another country has become and the people have become wiser, but not all. If, as Roman writes, nothing changes except zeroing, then why did the collective West stand on its hind legs, now in China they accepted the same thing, were they silent? You need to look wider and not from the inside, trying on your own skin, but from above, globally, as a whole.

[Victorio]

Quote: neri73-r

Well, it was recently said to Roman, write about the technique, why about something as a layman. Ann no everything is fighting with rEzhim. Even enter into a discussion

=====
) to the place or not, but I remembered from the classics: "I feel such a personal dislike that I can't eat!" ..

[Stas157]

Quote: neri73-r

Well, it was said recently Roman, write about the technology ... Ann no, everyone struggles with rEzhim

Who says? Who do you think you are here ??

Such trolls who behave so rudely with respected authors need ban for life.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: neri73-r

Well, it was said recently Roman, write about the technology ... Ann no, everyone struggles with rEzhim

Who says? Who do you think you are here ??

Such trolls who behave so rudely with respected authors need ban for life.

Wow, this deflection counts! That is, in your opinion, it is impossible to criticize anyone here, and especially respected (without sorcery) authors is it impossible? If you do not understand what I mean, clarify, and do not write everyone down and immediately in the trolls! You need to ban those who only hope for the plus signs and are afraid to go against the "general" line! and about the respected Roman, so I did not try to insult him. I liked his article about the Tu-2, but I did not like about the Constitution, both this and the previous one. And the dialogue, as it were, came from there. You can’t write articles about the people and the state offended by people who squandered everything and brought at the local level, which he saw, to the directives voting from above - how to vote and how not to, these people do not reflect reality and only spoil a good idea. I’ll find an article about what I’ll throw off the link to type for a long time and it won’t work out so well.

[flicker]

then why the collective West reared

Well, why is it clear? Because they worry about Roman.
Well, like, how will we (the West) support Putin when Roman suffers from him, suffers, and writes about his sufferings.
That is why we are under sanctions. West comes in front of Roman.
Or is Roman coming in the west?
Well, of course not.

[lopuhan2006]

In the army, I used to say about such people “how I’ll put on my sword belt, I’m getting stupid and dumb” ..... It is useless to argue, because the opinion of retired soldiers is not subject to discussion. As a person I am sure you are good, I can feel it straight, but with the perception of the world, alas ..... You are not taught to critically perceive the environment and ask questions. Unfortunately, on people like you and even on inert, stupid and box-dependent, everything holds. PYS: They would write about me like this, I would at least think, but for what? And by the way, I began to think about it after my second child and giving up alcohol in any form)

[neri73-r]

Quote: lopuhan2006

and refusal of alcohol in any form)

Well, you grabbed it !!! Too or after an emergency.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: lopuhan2006

And by the way, I began to think about it after the second child and refusal of alcohol in any form.

An interesting conclusion. Alcohol must be taken a couple of times a month, but not more than 300 grams, and you need to drink alone so that no one bothers. This removes all the negativity, you sit to speculate, and the next day the state is excellent. After two weeks, I repeat again. In general, it turns out pretty well. (You need to drink only a quality product.)

[Svarog]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: lopuhan2006

And by the way, I began to think about it after the second child and refusal of alcohol in any form.

An interesting conclusion. Alcohol must be taken a couple of times a month, but not more than 300 grams, and you need to drink alone so that no one bothers. This removes all the negativity, you sit to speculate, and the next day the state is excellent. After two weeks, I repeat again. In general, it turns out pretty well. (You need to drink only a quality product.)

I do just that

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: tihonmarine

After two weeks, I repeat again. In general, it turns out pretty well. (You need to drink only a quality product.)

The cycle is straight :)
Just like my "law of conservation of energy". Two weeks .... a moonshine from friends, or a gift brandy from them.
Now I'm in the middle of "..... pause" :)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

Just like my "law of conservation of energy". Two weeks .... a moonshine from friends, or a gift brandy from them.

Nobody gives cognac (there are no such rich friends), it is necessary to observe the cycle, but it’s better to do the hitchhiking yourself, I don’t count on friends, my product is more reliable. Manufacturing cycle, once every two months. Through a pressure cooker, three hours - 2 liters.

[lopuhan2006]

It’s strange to talk about the dangers of a drug - inference. Although I was the same. Probably you are not ripe yet.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: lopuhan2006

It’s strange to talk about the dangers of a drug - inference. Although I was the same. Probably you are not ripe yet.

Sorry, but I'm already scary by modern standards (not yours personally) overripe. So that I live as Botkin told about his patient
Let's say in the summer I get up at four o'clock and drink a glass of [tea] vodka; they give me a droshky, I go round the fields. I'll come home about 6 1/2 hours, drink a glass of vodka and go around the estate, the farmyard, the horse yard, and so on. I'll be back home at 8 o'clock, drink a glass of vodka, take a snack and lie down to rest. I will get up at 11 o'clock, drink a glass of vodka, and go to work until 12 with the headman, the mayor. At 12 o'clock I will drink a glass of vodka, have lunch and lie down to rest after lunch. I'll get up at 3 o'clock, drink a glass of vodka ... etc. "
Botkin:
"Let me ask you, how long have you been leading such a correct lifestyle?"
Landowner:
"I retired after the capture of Warsaw, settled on the estate, and so since then. So, professor, tell me, what regime should I adhere to?" (That is, he was under 80, of which he fermented 50, 2 liters a day) Botkin:
"Continue to lead your correct way of life, it seems to benefit you."

[lopuhan2006]

That's right, which I am very happy.

[Finches]

It is true, as I put on my sword belt, I become dumb and dumb ... what can I do - the "bloody regime" cuts out the department responsible for critical thinking before the oath
and implants in its place an implant that develops a constant desire to drink ...

"And drank it immediately!"@

[lopuhan2006]

Drinking, drinking, drinking, thumping, mortgaging, everyone can continue with an epithet suitable for themselves) Or maybe take a slightly different angle to look at what surrounds yourself? Vodka and circuses!) Who does not drink, he will die healthy! I’m her, only on holidays a couple of times a week! I don’t trust the drinkers! (Because they see you as a monkey? And they’re clean!) And what a secret joy from the fact that someone has unleashed! After all, he again sank to my level of drinker, drinker, mortgage, and so on ......... This is a natural selection - it is useless to explain to them that their descendants will die out and die out if they do not learn contrary to the examples of their drinkers, smokers, and child smokers. And I want my children to say that thanks to me they did not do it!

[Finches]

If you are a standing man, then they will say it for any scenario ....

[karabas86]

In vain you are so - they don’t understand, they will prove with foam at the mouth - poozlooooooo. To each his own, here it is necessary to explain to the children, and adults are often useless.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Finches

When, before the last presidential election, I wrote that there’s no go to the polls

That's right, and then you were stigmatized, and now stigmatized. We don’t understand when it’s good for us, and when it’s bad. But in the end, it's still bad.

[Finches]

Russia cannot be understood in the mind, common arshin cannot be measured ... And only faith remains ... in a happy future!

[Varyag71]

I have almost all of my subordinate military personnel retired, or reserve. Some seriously say that they respect Putin because he gave them a pension. This is complete insanity!

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Varyag71

Some seriously say that they respect Putin because he gave them a pension.

This is such a psychotype of people.
They think, quite seriously, that if they say it out loud to others, then nothing bad will happen to them themselves.
Those. speaking out loud about his pension, this psychotype supposedly guarantees itself its presence and quality in the future, thus persuading “fate”.

[balunn]

If you look through the prism of the security forces, I agree that under Putin there is a lot of work done. But besides the power structures, there are also citizens where they raised their retirement age, where the indexation of pensions lags behind price increases, etc., etc.

[Finches]

Everyone goes to the polls, elects the deputies, who then vote ... Go to your deputies and ask them why he voted for this reform? Democracy is the same !!

[balunn]

I don’t vote for edro. So this is not my deputy. I don’t know at all who picks them. May be you?

[Essex62]

You are, that ... comrade retirement. All impression spoiled. I read, drowned for you, run over, thought it was not the case of the comrade, but you take it and blurt out. Where, sorry to go, to whom? This I once went to the first secretary of the district committee and ensured a heart attack to one ministerial cord. He, hanging for his son with a disabled Afghan man, a gentleman of two orders, he squeezed out the laid flat.
And these deputies go to do the loot, they do not see us point blank. In the best case, they will repeat the words of the guarantor that one must understand and enter into a position.

[Finches]

If this is for me - then I am not a retirement, I am in stock! And, actually, it was sarcasm!

[Essex62]

Excuse me, not clearing. Usually on the move and very amused, as some comrades begin to desperately minus sarcastic posts. And yes, of course, we are in reserve.

[Victor N]

Thank you, Eugene, for your sound position. But you have to go to the polls - Who but us?

[Stas157]

I saw here how the sisters pressed on poor Zyablicev, and after:

Quote: Victor N

Thank you, Eugene, for your sound position.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Stas157

I saw here how the sisters put pressure on poor Zyablicev

Yes, they pressed him hard, just like a tractor.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Victor N

But you have to go to the polls - Who but us?

Will this change anything? I remembered a new saying "Skretarsha Vlvl, we have two news, good, you were elected again, bad, no one voted for you."

[Victor N]

If you want changes - at least try to influence personally.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Victor N

Who but us?

But what about ...

[Roman12345678]

Compare with the crises of the late 90s and now,

Oil .. different price of oil ..

even in 2014 there was more stupidity - you need to get away from dollar dependence, but this is not a quick and easy way.

Still get off the oil needle, make a breakthrough, get up from your knees and other heresy that there is no time to swing ..
These fables can be told only in rooms for the insane ..

Russia went this way after the sanction of 2014 and has already lost about $ 50 billion, but has not slipped into the chaos of the economic crisis of the 90s, or do you persistently not notice it?

Oil .. different price of oil ..
We’ve already printed a small egg .. It turns out that we will live for some time only due to this small egg .. due to oil at 120 ..
And the question is not even how much that little bag is enough ..
The question is why this happens, and what follows ... and when it will be understood by those who stubbornly do not want to notice ..

PS .. in the 90s there really was chaos ..
For when the husband has flour, and the wife has eggs, then when they divorce, they will both be left without bread and pancakes .. Here, even the drunk Yeltsin can not be blamed for this, because the process with any guidance would be the same .. At least it takes time until enterprises and the economy will be rebuilt ..
But the economic crisis, forcing the government to deprive people of pensions .. this chaos is difficult to cover with anything ..

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Roman12345678

For when a husband has flour, and a wife has eggs,

Here you mix the ingredients in places.

[codetalker]

Do you have the goal of life in Europe to ride something?

[Nicola I]

The most compelling argument is that another wrote "stupidity". And why stupidity, what is wrong, proof of stupidity is let the criticized bother. That is, they did not have enough brains for arguments, and to give out one word is stupidity and this speaks of one's own stupidity.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Finches

and I, personally in favor, let the GDP continue to steer!

it is good to have your own "candle factory", and not to think about retirement, not to think that you will be thrown out of work at 50, and you automatically become a beggar, not to have a sick child and not to collect money on television for treatment ... then yes, do not care what kind of power. and your "strategist", moreover, left Russia alone, without allies.

[Finches]

Do you dream of lying under the Anglo-Saxons, if only the dollar stood? Personally, I-no. It’s a sin not to recall the battered aphorism of Alexander III about the only faithful allies of Russia ...

[Prometey]

Quote: Finches

Do you dream of lying under the Anglo-Saxons, if only the dollar stood?

Russia - a long time ago occupied country - by villains and crooks of all stripes. You can even ponder - under whom it is better to bend - under your own masters or foreign. Under foreign - not so offensive yet.

[Ivan Kolodin]

Take off your pink glasses, I don’t want to think that you are so naive and such stupid officers who do not know that for decades, or rather since 2002, most of the proceeds from the sale of hydrocarbons have been accumulated in US bonds, that most of the cabinet and this composition and the previous ones have a residence permit in Europe and the USA, they are trained there and live, their children if it does not bend under the Saxons then I do not know what is going on in your head ....
You are very far from the people very .... Direct analogies from 1917 slip ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Finches

ex not remember the hackneyed aphorism of Alexander III about the only faithful allies of Russia.

Sin is certainly great, and in 1917, and in 1991, everything turned out the other way around, than by an aphorism.

[Marine engineer]

“Do you dream of lying under the Anglo-Saxons ...”

Wake up, Russia is already a half-colony of Anglo-Saxons

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Roman12345678

If only this president took care of the people

And not about his "people", but about the people of the country in which HE is the president.

[Finches]

I did not swear allegiance to Putin, dear man, but I served my homeland ... You will be rude to your wife!

[Victor N]

Lovely Italy, too, suddenly, was left without allies.
But one wise Anglo-Saxon said: Britain has no permanent allies, but there are permanent interests, something like that. And Putin understands this well.

[Stas157]

Quote: Finches

let GDP continue to drive!

Quote: Finches

And through the prism of my life experience, I believe that socialism is more profitable for Russia - with the dictatorship of the Communist Party

Zblitsov, you either remove the cross or put on your underpants. And it’s awkward to look at you like that.

[Finches]

I am for absolutism, the Secretary General’s absolutism I like more, but since today it’s impossible let the absolutism of the GDP be. So understandable?

[Stas157]

Quote: Finches

I'm for absolutism Secretary General's absolutism ... So understandable?

For the absolutism of the Secretary General of the CPSU Central Committee or the tsar who protects the interests of the oligarchs? Agree, these are still two different perspectives.

[Finches]

There are no prospects here! Capitalism is always a service to capital, even a king, even a pope ... Excuse me, but when will you all grow wiser .... The transition from one political and economic formation to the opposite - always through the Revolution! And not elections - it's like 2x2 !!!

[Stas157]

Quote: Finches

The transition from one political and economic formation to the opposite - always through the revolution! And not elections - it's like 2x2 !!!

How, then, did they pass from the USSR to capitalism without revolutions, what usually scarers frighten with? The formations were clearly different! Or do you think not?

And then, why is revolution bad? Since childhood, I celebrated the day of November 7 - the Red Day of the calendar. Celebration (note!) Of the Great October Revolution! And for you, it was like a day of mourning?

[Finches]

No, we have passed through even, legitimate elections ... Don’t write nonsense! There was a real coup d'etat, with the collapse of the system and the state, and simply its Yeltsin clique did not advertise, calling it a bourgeois revolution!

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Finches

let there be an absolutism of GDP. So understandable?

Which of them?

[Finches]

All in a row

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Finches

I am for absolutism, the Secretary General’s absolutism I like more, but since today it’s impossible let the absolutism of the GDP be. So understandable?

Eugene, are you this ?!

[Revival]

Yes, he is simply for any power, if it is power.
So trained not to think, but to support. "I'm a small man, a big giraffe knows better."
Very accurately most of the population of our country describes the poem "the master will come, the master will judge us ...".

[Finches]

To judge a person, you need to know him, judge by his actions ... And personally! But you think that you are smarter than everyone and not for any power - I ask in such cases, but for what kind of power do you begin to draw the image of Jesus Christ to me, moreover, in your personal interpretation ...

[Revival]

Your answer is empty water.
And they already wrote to you that as a person you are most likely a good person, within the framework of interpersonal communication, but there are doubts about how "it is insulting for the power".
I'm sorry ...

[Finches]

That is, if against Putin - it means for the Power, and if for - then against! Explanatory logic ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Finches

but adequate solutions ..

What kind? Lack of elementary anti-epidemic actions - an adequate solution? A personal example - two friends are at home with a temperature below 40, and with inflammation of the upper respiratory tract, but the ambulance categorically, without any tests, diagnosed ODS, without any tests. There are no masks in pharmacies from the word at all, but 9 boards were sent to Italy. Uncle’s wife, himself to his aunt.

Quote: Finches

but we have more reserves in the bins of the Motherland,

Truth? 577 billion against 500 mld. The cost of production was forgotten to compare, the quality of oil, as well as the ability to increase production. In addition, I recommend comparing the depreciation of national currencies of the Russian Federation and the CA.

Quote: Finches

I believe that for Russia socialism is a more advantageous system - with the dictatorship of the Communist Party, but since it is not there, then let there be a dictatorship of GDP

And the idea that you would return to the Communists again did not occur to you?

[Finches]

This is impossible, unfortunately. And we do not have communists from the word at all. There is a pink party of Zyuganov, disguised as a popular supporter, but who has sold these people a long time ago. There are no masks in pharmacies, is Putin the same to blame? However, for some reason I observe very few masked people.

[Chervonny]

We do not need such renegades in the communist movement. Live in your little world "my house is on the edge" and scold the pink Zyuganov, maybe it will make you feel better.

[Revival]

And who is to blame that there is no necessary basic means of protecting the population, and this is not the first day?
And from the one who is to blame, he can and should ask either I or you will dismiss the Minister of Health, Industry?
Or is it the president?
Or the prime minister, who again reports to the president

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Finches

And we do not have communists from the word at all.

Normal and honest are filtered by the "system" already at the LOWEST level! The methods are different, I will not list, we have all heard about them ...
By the way, this property of the "system" to filter people ALREADY at the very initial level, at the first stages of growth, led to the fact that, as some people write, "Putin does not see any alternatives ..." (C).
This is correct, since by the efforts of the "system" all normal people are destroyed already at the very first stages and at the country level it is easy for them to take on - there is nowhere ...

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Ingvar 72

but in Italy 9 boards sent

Outdated information. Already 14 boards.
And there in Italy - THEIR people.
And here are ours.
Feel the difference?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

And there in Italy - THEIR people.
And here are ours.
Feel the difference?

Of course, which I always say. Something is brewing in the country, and it is commonplace for them to oil the alternate aerodromes.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Finches

what’s most important - in Russia there are no queues for the dollar, no one is buying TVs ...

I agree with Skomorokhov, you write nonsense that you are trying to cover with a fig leaf of imaginary achievements and successes.
Do you know why there are no queues, but dollars and televisions, and because the POPULATION DOES NOT have MONEY NP PRODUCTS AND MEDICINES, and you mean dollars.

Quote: Finches

I flew this morning to Siberia, then returned to Europe,

But you know that a simple person from Zamkadye can not only fly away, but cannot leave the settled zone due to lack of money.
Have you heard about such a city of Vorkuta? There, people remained abandoned forever, they do not even have the opportunity to dump from there-nothing!

Quote: Finches

And through the prism of my life experience, I believe that for Russia socialism is a more advantageous system - with the dictatorship of the Communist Party, but since it is not there, then let there be a dictatorship of GDP ... And let’s see!

After this pearl there is reason to doubt your adequacy, I do not affirm, but I doubt it. This is IMHO my personal subjective opinion.

[Revival]

He is from the same breed that will strangle for his penny, he has a military pension and he is for the power that they threw him a penny.
And the fact that millions are in poverty, he is not cold and not hot, pension, here it is ...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Finches

Oil, but what and why, Putin went 100% none of us knows, but in our bins in the homeland there are more reserves than in Saudi Arabia and it’s not sweet for them from such a situation

Why didn’t their real result of a fall in oil fall at all, and our ruble, backed up by reserves of the Motherland, flew down ?! Although not so long ago, when oil was growing, but the ruble was not, the Guarantor just explained this by the fact that it was not growing, because we finally untied it from the price of oil

[Chervonny]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Why didn’t their real result of a fall in oil fall at all, and our ruble, backed up by reserves of the Motherland, flew down?

Because they are backward, and they do not have our government that would tie their real to oil. Oh how!

[Varyag71]

Guarantor of lies and hypocrisy

[basmach]

Well, Zyablintsev, as always, there is no alternative to GDP. But there is one thing ... He loves to leave a loophole for the exit - what if what. In general, a "weather vane". Tomorrow Pupkin will come to power with other ideas - and he will be in the forefront of his admirers. Now he is already advocating socialism. It is because of such people that we lost the USSR.

[Chervonny]

Quote: basmach

In general, a "weather vane". Tomorrow Pupkin will come to power with other ideas - and he will be in the forefront of his admirers

Bravo!
Sorry I can not put you 10+

[Finches]

So two brave communists, who sold the country together with Zyuganov in 1991, and then again threw all those who threw themselves in 1996, cooperated! You need to ask the moderators that it would be possible to put + or - 10 - it will immediately become fair and correct!

Only I have a principled position, but you don’t have it - just blah blah blah - We all die as one in the struggle for this ... And for 30 years everyone has been dying in the struggle for this! Just do not understand why in 1991 no one died, except for three clowns, though from another camp, during the coup ???

[Chervonny]

Zyablitsev, you have not mixed up anything about the 91 year? As far as I understand, at that time you already served in the army, and in October 93 the same.
You have a good principled position, fifth. 30 years Zyablitsov, you spit in the face of people from this your position of principle.

[Finches]

Why do I spit - I was a sovereign servant to them and remained! Yes, the army, one might say then stayed away - Yazov was a respected man, but constrained by party and military discipline - it was necessary to shoot the Mechen and arrest Yeltsin, and not participate in the State Emergency Committee - and I , even a tiny screw of a military machine, I’m not taking responsibility off myself! But today there is no left-wing party in Russia capable of bringing back the socialist system — not to come to power, but to return the system! NO, not even parties, but forces - only clowns - oligarch Grudinin, Platoshkin - violent, but the most adequate among the left and renegade Zyuganov! That’s the problem ... So I’d better lie on the couch, and let Putin steer Russia for now! But how a person appears who is able to rally the people around him and with determination to go to the barricades - I'll see! But even 1,5 people will leave the barricades today ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Finches

So two brave communists, who sold the country together with Zyuganov in 1991, cooperated

Zhenya, I'm a monarchist if that. But in this situation, I see no other way out for the country than a rollback to the "red" system. Regarding Zyuganov, yes, he was a weather vane, but judging by his statements in recent years, and because he disappeared from the media screens, he took the right course. Why do some have the right to change their minds, while others you immediately write down as renegades? Your beloved Putin is globally the same shape-shifter - he was a communist, became a capitalist. Like many in power. Grudinin says VERY sensible things, Potapenko, Platoshkin, and even Strelkov.
And camps do not need to scare, does not call now none to change the global system, the maximum discussion is about the symbiosis of the capitalist system with the socialist system. China has proven that this is possible.

[Finches]

Yes, am I against it, but how to do it? Take our democracy - you see, everyone will come on April 22, or when there will be amendments! But if no one comes to the ballot boxes, it will be a call from the authorities! After all, the elections are more interesting than anything - the number of people participating in them - this is their indicator of people's confidence in the government and the system! And because I am for Putin, and someone for Zyuganov ... does not solve absolutely anything! In 1986, it was necessary to go along the Chinese path ... And today, our red train has gone far into the beautiful!
As for the monarchy — let the GDP remain for them — our kings were forever the richest landowners and owners! Eka is unseen!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Finches

Take our democracy

There is no it, because serious amendments are already legitimate, even Pamfilova said. And it is not a "poll" that does not comply with the law on holding a referendum.

Quote: Finches

let the GDP remain to them - our kings were forever the richest landowners and owners!

He is not a king, he is a usurper. This is a Byzantine-style monarchy. What Byzantium finished I think you know.

[Finches]

And on the other hand - well, the deadline will be reset to zero - there will be elections in 2024 - there will be Putin's candidacy and, for example, Navalny - let everyone come to the polls and elect Navalny! What is the problem then? In the last election, the majority of those who voted voted for Putin, and I do not believe in a total fraud with votes I have repeatedly participated in election commissions! What a noise out of nothing to do! Personally, he suits me, someone is not - am I against it? But I didn’t even put a minus to those who disagree with me — and I’m both an alcoholic and a dumb tarpaulin boot! I do not care, but this is an indicator of opponents!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Finches

I do not believe in total fraud with voices

And do you believe in one hundred percent turnout and Putin in the Caucasus?

Quote: Finches

I do not care, but this is an indicator of opponents!

Eugene - I don’t give a damn about the minus, I don’t put them at all. But this is not an indicator of my agreement with my opponent.

[Finches]

I won’t say for the Caucasus, but when he commanded 100 not 100 commanders, he sought 90% of military personnel and members of their families ... But on Kakazode - this is possible when the senior ordered!

[Den717]

Quote: Finches

Only I have a principled position

I read the branch. Colleague, I support you in the vast majority of positions. The annoyance is that somehow a certain community of VO guests has formed, who generally hold an opposition position (oil is oil, however). In most cases, a non-constructive critical position is taken up by adults not from deep convictions in their correctness of knowledge of the subject, but as a self-affirmation that is inaccessible in everyday life. The formula works - "if they (rulers or anyone else) are bad and stupid, and I criticize them, then I am good and smart." At the same time, entering the anonymous sphere often occurs when it is impossible to get this in real life. But don't be too angry with them. For the most part, these are normal people working in one way or another for the country. They were just not very lucky somewhere ...

[Finches]

I just don’t get angry! I am interested in reading this - this is a certain section of reality - as an indicator of the presence of civil society! Criticism, constructive criticism of the authorities is right, but it’s stupid that, given the existing capitalism, we’ll choose Grudinin (an example), he will immediately take everything from the oligarchs and return them to the poor ... I’ve gotten down to shape, but people believe that! Which, however, is also not bad ... A person must have faith, at least in something!

[Den717]

Quote: Finches

A person must have faith, at least in something!

It would be nice to believe in reason and try to somehow delve deeper into the real state of the topics discussed.

[Revival]

Quite rightly, there is such a category of population that with tenderness supports any power and considers itself unworthy even to open its mouth to the wide.
As an example, meetings of the people with the president, they receive beggarly pensions, grumble, but as soon as the meeting, then oh! "We love you so much, health to you, you can touch, oh, a tear of happiness has flowed." And the most interesting thing is that they sincerely look like a rabbit in love.
And then they go again get their 8500r. pensions and consider a trifle at the box office and so on until the end ...

[Finches]

You were mistaken - I have 8 550 rubles - so I have something to tear the anus for!

[Revival]

Well, in the continuation of our correspondence ...
So where is your pride? 8500?
Have you measured yourself on this?
Another is also 8500r. How was the gift measured?
Asked from whom (judging by your comments a rhetorical question)?
Yes, there’s a lot more I can ask, write, but it’s empty and it’s not for me to write

[Finches]

You write nonsense, I nonsense to you and answer! Personally, I have a good, relatively retirement pension! Someone has 8500, but surrounded by no such acquaintances, relatives have a minimum of 16 with a penny, that's not enough, I agree ... But I will explain to you that nothing will change in the Kremlin by simply castling, then why change anything in tactical plan, if in the strategic everything remains the same, but it could get worse !?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Finches

Personally, I have a good, relatively retirement pension!

Eugene, and if you adjust your pension to 8850, how do you write, what will you do? You and I are of the same generation and I want to tell you what, you are better than me and many others who are not yet retired at your age but they’re scrambling for work so you get it? You can understand that the pension is not paid by the gdp, but by a people who live a hard life, but are happy with everything, but there are no other people, well, people don’t want to go to a wooden mackentosh before they reach retirement, and in the meantime you will use the fruits of their labor. Explain to me why you are better than Colonel Shendakova or Lieutenant Colonel Barabash? I understand your position, you feel good and you don’t need to change anything, but I don’t perceive it. You used to say that you have a commander-in-chief and an order, but now you’re drowning for it, why, for yourself? But what about the rest? Eugene, I understand that if we sit down at the same table, drink, talk and most likely become friends, but I won’t be able to accept your position, you know? You can’t be apart from the people, be so kind as to pull a common strap.

[WIKI]

Quote: Finches

we have more reserves in the bins of the Motherland than Saudi Arabia

"Saudi Arabia's international reserves are $ 500 billion, and a debt-to-GDP ratio of 25% gives the kingdom the ability to significantly increase borrowing and do it cheaply in an environment of low interest rates. While Russia does not have such an opportunity to borrow money cheaply. that their population is 33 million and ours is 140, it is not yet known how to assess these reserves. " No one can extract oil as cheaply as Saudi Arabia: It only takes $ 2.80 to get a barrel, compared to about $ 16 for Exxon Mobil Corp. and more than $ 20 for Rosneft.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: WIKI

: only $ 2.80 required

In my opinion 8, but globally it’s still several times less than ours.

[WIKI]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-09/oil-crash-saudi-arabia-s-price-war-worked-once-but-may-backfire

[Ingvar 72]

The data vary according to different sources, but not the point. All the same, many times cheaper than ours.

[WIKI]

The Saudis have another option for maintaining the budget, this is the devaluation of their currency, as Russia did. Then they will be $ 10 per barrel simply for joy. But, because they depend on imports by 60%, this will lead to higher prices for goods and inflation. Will they go for it?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: WIKI

Will they go for it?

I don’t know, but it seems to me that they will not need such a move. They have fewer people, almost the same amount of money, their cost is many times lower. We used to be blown away with such initial data. But not so long ago, Medvedev announced that we were able to get away from raw material dependence. Damn, wherever you look, some defective managers, what’s above, what’s on the ground. But how to report!

[WIKI]

Saratov! Poor Saratov. Only yesterday I arrived from the regional hospital. Cup, spoon, mug, toilet paper, soap - all their own. At discharge, the surgeon openly offered to "thank him".

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: WIKI

Upon discharge, the surgeon openly offered to "thank him".

The year before last, the mother was operated on oncology, a fee of thanks of 10 tr My mother’s roommate gave 8 tr, so they told her in plain text - not enough!

[WIKI]

Some have a patron king, others have batons with epaulets, and others have a scalpel. Where can a poor pensioner lean against?

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Ingvar 72

My mother’s roommate gave 8 tr, so they told her in plain text - not enough!

It is necessary to make 2 entrances in each hospital: "Hospital" and "Funeral Bureau".
Near each door to hang up prices with prices.
And in the middle between the doors, a large poster: "Choose, or - you will lose."

[Finches]

I won’t argue ... It's all the same useless!

[DED_peer_DED]

But most importantly, there are no queues for the dollar in Russia, no one is buying up TVs ... People are wise!

Wise ... He buys cereals, salt, canned food and toilet paper.
You are wiser here. That's how it is with me, with a salary of 8 thousand rubles. (part-time), it's time for dollars and TVs to run.
But "wisdom" .... I can even borrow.

[Arlen]

Will we now amend the constitution under each president? The next president will correct the constitution for himself. And these changes will be endless, until we return the sch to the path of Soviet power.

[Svarog]

Quote: Arlen

Will we now amend the constitution under each president?

Apparently, yes .. we decided to make the rules of the road from the Constitution ..

[AK1972]

Quote: Svarog

Apparently, yes .. we decided to make the rules of the road from the Constitution ..

A man asks the saleswoman of the Soyuzpachat booth
- Is there a constitution today?

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: AK1972

A man asks the saleswoman of the Soyuzpachat booth
- Is there a constitution today?

"There is no truth, Russia was sold. Labor for 2 kopecks remained ..." (C)
Plusanul frantically ... :)

[Revival]

It is necessary to set up a release in the form of a "scroll", so it is more convenient to read and emphasizes the real meaning

[Svarog]

I looked. The dollar is almost 80, the euro is almost 86. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is doing its job. Nabiullina should be given the Hero of Labor of Russia.

There are all the heroes .. and everyone is working like bees ..

[Cat Kuzya]

Putin forever! Long live Putin, our eternal president!

[Chervonny]

It seems that the Central Bank is not Russian at all, but belongs to some aliens from the planet Saturn.

[depressant]

Colleague Pessimist 22, support.
The last year somehow highlighted especially clearly the division of society into a narrow class of bloodsuckers and an extensive class of extinct donors. The latter finally understood everything and became very dark --- strongly and very noticeably. To prevent the sudden consolidation of salt, gloomy on the principle of crystalline, thrown into its supersaturated solution, the bloodsucker class, sensing the danger of its precipitation, hastened to consolidate the current state of affairs in the Constitution, simultaneously introducing laws that allow the use of armed force against those who are not satisfied.
A year ago, our society was an indefinite, amorphous mass, and everyone believed that he had every opportunity - even to become president! Remember all the last election - who was nominated. Almost housewives. And now --- no, no! Know your place, donor of economic and political blood. The structure of society has finally acquired a finished look. The aristocracy from the plow was fenced off from the bulk of the people by a constitutional barrier and legislatively turned off the elevators.

[Chervonny]

Quote: depressant

The last year somehow highlighted especially clearly the division of society into a narrow class of bloodsuckers and an extensive class of extinct donors

Now they will approve amendments to the constitution by voting, and there will still be roofing felts. Following can really come serfdom.

[Varyag71]

Therefore, they are now promoting the Russian Orthodox Church. As before, it will be on guard.

[DMB 75]

Putin needs the changes to the Constitution in order to somehow preserve power after 2024, when his presidential powers cease. There were simply no other internal grounds for changing the Constitution. There were no economic, political, legal reasons for such a radical decision. The functions of the State Council would be incomprehensible. This is a central issue. The amendments, apparently, should strengthen the president’s sole authority.
Elbasy will be, but for what ?. Putin is trying to ensure personal security. And this means that he is trying to maintain the maximum amount of power - it doesn’t matter in which package, and by what regulatory and administrative changes.

[Uncle lee]

That's all ! And no magic ....

[bessmertniy]

Field of Miracles in the Country of Fools. And this is the lot of a great people with a multi-million history!

[The leader of the Redskins]

That is why I will not go to this "visibility" in a month! I have already buried so many "gold" ones in such "fields of miracles" that I feel like a complete Pinocchio!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

That is why in a month I will not go to this "visibility"!

After the signing of these amendments by Putin, there really is no point in going to this "poll". Before that, I wanted to go, but after learning about the conditions for the voting, I realized that this was nothing more than a farce paid by taxpayers.

[Boris55]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

That is why in a month I will not go to this "visibility"!

Quote: Ingvar 72

After the signing of these amendments by Putin, there really is no point in going to this "poll".

How, he already signed them?

Are you happy with the Constitution written by the State Department and are you against changing anything in it? I’m embarrassed to ask, what oligarch do you have for feeding?

[Chervonny]

Boris, your beloved government has been living under the State Department’s constitution for decades, and now it’s not a new constitution that’s being adopted, but just amendments to the constitution written by the State Department.

[Svarog]

Quote: Boris55

Are you happy with the Constitution written by the State Department and are you against changing anything in it? I’m embarrassed to ask, what oligarch do you have for feeding?

Boris, they lived 30 years under the Constitution of the State Department .. and the funny thing is that today's amendments do not make this Constitution pro-Russian .. and it’s even funnier that the previous Constitution was often not respected .. and in this connection a logical question arises .. And actually what difference does it make when our people are robbing us or Western ones .. in any case, it turns out to be a people of the same kind .. with whom both these and those only shear .. So it’s ridiculous to call for patriotism in such a situation ..

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Boris55

How, he already signed them?

MOSCOW, Mar 14 - RIA News. President Vladimir Putin signed into law on constitutional amendments. https://ria.ru/20200314/1568601156.html

Quote: Boris55

Are you satisfied with the Constitution written by the State Department and are you against changing anything in it?

No, it does not suit me, but it needs to be changed for the better, and not for the worse.

[Boris55]

Quote: Ingvar 72

President Vladimir Putin Signs Constitution Amendment Law

Yes you are right. According to the Constitution, he was obliged to sign this law.

"...If based on the results of the all-Russian vote, amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation will support more than half citizens who will take part in it, the changes provided for by the Law on Amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation in chapters 3–8 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, will come into force... "http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/news/62988

That is what I wrote above. Our approval is necessary in order for the amendments to take effect immediately.

Quote: Ingvar 72

No, it does not suit me, but it needs to be changed for the better, and not for the worse.

It’s a pity that you didn’t indicate which amendment (s) you are comfortable with (s).

[Revival]

Well, again, will you push the imaginary idea of ​​peremptory palling of international laws over ours, without citing evidence and examples?

[Victor N]

All responsible citizens will go and support, do not hesitate.

[Chervonny]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Before that I wanted to go

I’ll go if there really will be a turnout of 60% after summing up, for 70% or vice versa, I don’t remember how they said on the site a couple of weeks ago that I won’t have more than my foot in the elections.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Red

Quote: Ingvar 72

Before that I wanted to go

I’ll go if there really will be a turnout of 60% after summing up, for 70% or vice versa, I don’t remember how they said on the site a couple of weeks ago that I won’t have more than my foot in the elections.

No! Here in the fall, on a single voting day, you will definitely have to go! To the elections, where there are observers, where there are opposition candidates who are personally interested in taking the seats of United Russia. Look, in the Moscow City Duma, the composition has changed after the summer confrontation and the subsequent vote. And so the updated Moscow City Duma recently invited VV Kvachkov to take part in the committee meeting, which is clear that he did not wag, but spoke sharply - this is still some kind of tribune.
I personally will not go to the vote on the Constitution. There is no control whatsoever; on the contrary, everything has been done to remove it. Therefore, why will I participate in this circus?

PS In the media there is information about a possible postponement of the vote, due to the virus, to June.

[Chervonny]

Maybe you are right...

[DMB 75]

Exactly kreks, peks, feks. Sleight of hand and no fraud! Then Kiselyov and Solovyov will convincingly tell that we ourselves wanted this.

[Same lech]

There was simply no other internal reason for amending the Constitution.

There is a reason ... for example, article 15, paragraph 4 ... it subordinates our state to Anglo-Saxon laws, they directly affect our domestic policy .... which I do not accept in principle.

[Revival]

Give an example of a law, a convention, which has become mandatory for us, and even without our voluntary signing and ratification of the State Duma, simply upon adoption abroad.
Otherwise, the problem is "windmill".

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: DMB 75

Elbasy will be obtained, but for what?

And what for Nazarbayev? All for the same.

[Lannan Shi]

Article 93, paragraph 1.

In fact, it is completely unconstitutional. Because violates article 19. Granting equal rights to all citizens of the Russian Federation. In the new edition, some citizens are somewhat more citizen. Division into the first grade and draft stock.
.

Article 671. This is the MOST where the ancestors who transmitted to us ideals and faith in God, the protection of historical truth and children as the most important priority of the spiritual policy of the state.

But Buddhists, of whom there are not so few in the Russian Federation, completely deny the concept of God. Like atheists. The constitution is not for them? Or are they not for the constitution? And I, as an atheist, must urgently believe? Though in Allah, even in Christ, even in Cthulhu, it does not matter in whom, but to believe? And if I did not believe, then I turn into an unconstitutional element? Again, a direct violation of article 19.
Nah. Edits are not so easy. The constitution is gradually beginning to be redrawn under a class-theocratic society. Forward to the past. To good bars, priests and rods. Yeah.

[HaByxoDaBHocep]

For Great Cthulhu fat like)

[depressant]

Cthulhu, he is a bloodsucker from the Pripyat Zone. I read and reread books about stalkers. Writers are great! A fighting detachment of political analysis of our reality. There, Russia anonymously acts as a Zone. By all indications. The case of the Strugatsky Teachers is alive!

[balunn]

to which priests? to the inquisitor !!!!

[last astronaut]

,, In fact, it is completely unconstitutional. Because violates article 19. Granting equal rights to all citizens of the Russian Federation. ,,

And equal rights have never been and never will be, because all people are different, and laws should be written under the majority.

A woman and a man are initially not equal. A woman must give birth to children, this is not given to men. Infringement means.

And here I am also proving everything to everyone that in boxing and other martial arts women must fight with men, for they are equal. But nobody is listening to me.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: The Last Astronaut

A woman must give birth to children, this is not given to men. Infringement means.

The "Developed Democratic Countries" are already working on this "misunderstanding" by the comrades taken into account ...

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Lannan Shi

And I, as an atheist, must urgently believe?

In the Great and Horrible God - PU!
This is just about him, amendments.

[Sahalinets]

Everything is pretty simple. There is a gang of people robbing the country. And it is extremely important for them to maintain the status quo, for the new godfather will bring his friends, very hungry. That's all.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Sahalinets

Everything is pretty simple. There is a gang of people robbing the country. And it is extremely important for them to maintain the status quo, for the new godfather will bring his friends, very hungry. That's all.

Quote: Sahalinets

Everything is pretty simple. There is a gang of people robbing the country. And it is extremely important for them to maintain the status quo, for the new godfather will bring his friends, very hungry. That's all.

Everything is much worse for them; it is a matter of physical existence.

[Private89]

Change of faces is not able to change anything until the class in power changes. No one has canceled the class struggle! They are and we are! And we have completely different interests. And we will never agree. Their task is to be enriched at our expense, ours will be freed from exploitation. There can be no compromise between a cancerous tumor and a healthy body.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Private 89

There can be no compromise between a cancerous tumor and a healthy body.

I do not understand, to be honest, because of what such a noise.

Novel! The noise here is only because people are amazed at how quickly anti-people decisions are made by those elected to power. People rightly wonder why the amendments are put to the vote by the package? Some people simply don’t know why there was no substitute for one of the 80 million potential candidates in the country, and what is its “historical role” and “incomparable personality”, if the whole vertical of power built by him and his circle does not recognize any dogma, does not adhere to any postulates . The expression of the will of the people is not checked in a “fictitious vote”, but in a referendum.
And then the family situation: “How do we spend our money that dad drank?”
It's time to finish this booth. All thoughts:

Quote: Pessimist22

“When robbery becomes the lifestyle of a group of people living together in society, over time they create a legal system that legalizes it and glorifies its moral code.”

Quote: Lannan Shi

In fact, it is completely unconstitutional. Because violates article 19. Granting equal rights to all citizens of the Russian Federation. In the new edition, some citizens are somewhat more citizen. Division into the first grade and draft stock.

Quote: DMB 75

Elbasy will be, but for what ?. Putin is trying to ensure personal security.

Sincere and correct, because they do not have personal self-interest, unlike amendments.

[Prometey]

Quote: ROSS 42

Some simply don’t know why in the country of 80 million potential candidates there was no replacement

This is almost the same as with football - why in a country with 140 million people 11 players cannot be found.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Prometey

why in a country with 140 million people can’t find 11 players.

The same thing.
Because sport, like all the best, is for the elite.
Notice, not for the BEST, but for the elite.

[bessmertniy]

Neither the Constitution nor the Criminal Code are laws. With corrections, with amendments or without changes - they do not care. And that in that case, they should throw beads before them by our popular vote.

[Arlen]

Quote: bessmertniy

Neither the Constitution nor the Criminal Code are laws. With corrections, with amendments or without changes - they do not care.

They need legitimacy. They don’t give a damn about everything else. The main thing is legitimacy!

[bessmertniy]

And they don’t need an aspen stake !? To these ghouls.!?

[Malyuta]

Quote: Private 89

Change of faces is not able to change anything until the class in power changes. No one has canceled the class struggle!

I agree with you, just try to characterize the current ruling class and give it a definition. Do you understand that such a monster has not yet existed in the history of the world, so the classical formula of the class struggle most likely will not work.

[codetalker]

Quintessential Opus:

I don’t understand, to be honest, because of what such a noise

The possibility of introducing such amendments is the result of hard work for 20 years. This is the word that the next one will come and with the same “ease” will change.

[bessmertniy]

Our constitutional rights remain rights, but the state cannot provide them. Why such a constitution, which cannot reliably provide work for every adult in our country! At the same time, shtrebreher or migrants from abroad are imported, and citizens are raised the retirement age, while not providing reliable employment!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: bessmertniy

and citizens are raising their retirement age, while not providing reliable employment!

Citizens of Russia are offered an official monthly minimum wage of 12 rubles. It is in a country with a temperate continental climate and negative average annual temperature. Although the right solution in this situation is the hourly minimum wage. I know people who work for this minimum wage for 130 hours a day without lunch, and this is with the approved 10-hour work week.

[Same lech]

I know people who work for this minimum wage for 10 hours a day without lunch, and this is with the approved 40-hour work week.

Of course, this is not normal and unfair ... and injustice in relation to its citizens is one of the reasons for the collapse of the states ... no laws here will help to resist such a state in the long run.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: ROSS 42

I know people who work for this minimum wage for 10 hours a day without lunch

And this is another trick of our "social" state. So in the world the minimum wage is hourly. And there is no point in pushing people to shifts for 12-14 hours. But we have a month. And that many have to plow not 160 hours a month, but 250-300 ... It is not politically correct to notice such trifles.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I can't get less than 200 hours even during the "holiday" months!)

[Sotskiy]

Quote: ROSS 42

Citizens of Russia are offered an official monthly minimum wage of 12 rubles. It is in a country with a temperate continental climate and negative average annual temperature.

The minimum wage is 12 rubles, this is how much! It can be said everyone will become a millionaire! True, with certain components Namely: the dollar - 60 kopecks., Bread - 20 kopecks., Gasoline - 40 kopecks., Planted for speculation, well, then you understand ... By the way, who remembers what it is - a penny?
But those people who have arranged for themselves their personal "communism" in the capitalist system, believe that 12130 re for the social norm is a great achievement of the current government in conditions of stable ruble volatility, "free" pricing and the absence of its own industrial base.
And yes, maybe they even genuinely wonder why they were able to build "communism with a capitalist face" for themselves, and the rest cannot "lift their ass off the couch." .

[Prometey]

Quote: ROSS 42

I know people who work for this minimum wage for 10 hours a day without lunch, and this is with the approved 40-hour work week.

And I know. My wife was looking for a job, got a temporary job. Payment - 750 rubles. per shift - 10 hours on feet with two 15 minutes. breaks. I went down 3 times and I forbade her - it’s better to live in poverty than to humiliate oneself for such a penny. I still cannot understand how to humiliate my own citizens and treat them like cattle.

[Revival]

Only in one case, if that’s how you initially feel about them

[Arlen]

Quote: codetalker

the next one will come and change it with the same “ease”.

Will definitely change. Each heir / successor will change the constitution for themselves, a precedent is created.

[codetalker]

Of course ... no, of course, Putin didn’t redraw the constitution in 2001

[Same lech]

Immunity after termination of powers, appointment

Such an amendment does not suit me at all.
Strongly against this ... if the president commits an official crime directed against the interests of the state, country and people, he must undoubtedly answer for this in full measure ... there can be no immunity for him in principle ...
Further, article 15, paragraph 4, if it has not been amended in favor of our state, I will vote against such amendments.
This (article 15, paragraph 4) subordinates us to vague norms. This is a concession to the people who ruled the country in the 1990s, and they are now very influential in power.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Strongly against it ...

Indeed, ex-presidents in countries live and travel around the world without state support, and this “braid” will have to be protected (grave) for budget money after death.
The most vile and base human trait when they become bold behind the backs of guards.
After that, I doubt the biographical fact when the lieutenant colonel - director of the club (where did it come from?) Dispersed the crowd with a pistol ... Wow, I was not afraid. And in his own country, where support is above 76%, and the middle class - above 70%, he is afraid to marry a loaf of bread. How do everyone else live?
Attached: once they fell into power and pulled veins from people to the last.

[DED_peer_DED]

Putin is immortal. The constitution is eternal.

[Svarog]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Such an amendment does not suit me at all.
Strongly against this ... if the president commits an official crime directed against the interests of the state, country and people, he must undoubtedly answer for this in full measure ... there can be no immunity for him in principle ...

This point characterizes Putin as a whole .. It seems to me that there are not many presidents in the world who, like that, brazenly and cynically remake the main law of the country for themselves ..

[Chervonny]

Quote: Svarog

This item generally characterizes Putin ..

Not only him, but also his advisers and his entire team, together with his domestic policies and economies

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Svarog

it seems to me that there are not many presidents in the world who are brazen and cynical for themselves

In hot Africa, there are many examples of this ...

[Svarog]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

Quote: Svarog

it seems to me that there are not many presidents in the world who are brazen and cynical for themselves

In hot Africa, there are many examples of this ...

That's it .. but it’s not a desire to consider Russia as Africa .. but in fact they are leading us there ..

[Rust]

Thank you Roman! Wonderfully laid out. Great work. I tried to read the amendments, but could not, wimp. Thanks to your analysis, I was finally convinced that we do not need such changes.

[Essex62]

And yours, my, their opinion does not concern those who portrayed this constitution. They came to the conclusion that they saddled the spineless, in the mass, people and consolidate the conquests of the 93rd. The following amendments, apparently, will be even more radical and concrete. This is enough for Putin, too, with the following growth to a class society, fixed by the basic law of a 12-hour working day, and then all the charms on the list.

[Scipio]

For whom is the new Constitution? Government: for you family, for you our beloved people live and try our best!

[Van 16]

Seek someone profitable. And we get the answer - it’s primarily profitable for the current government. Specifically - Putin V.V.
Everything else is a smoke screen.

[Same lech]

Specifically - Putin V.V.

Putin is just a man ... he does not last forever ... sooner or later he will leave Olympus to power .. but those who are behind him are the most dangerous for the people ... what it takes their heads to usurp power is unknown .. The internal political cuisine of the Kremlin is hidden from the eyes of the people and it is very difficult to say what processes are going on there.

[Van 16]

It is truth too. Unfortunately, there are few people around the president who, to put it mildly, inspire confidence.

[Victor N]

Do you know the environment of the President so well? Or theoretically?

[Van 16]

You might think you don’t know this environment ..

[Ivan Kolodin]

We have only Chubais, and the Rotenberg brothers are enough ... To understand that to understand who is who ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Victor N

Do you know the environment of the President so well? Or theoretically?

Yes, good enough to understand that they are thieves. For their property is ten times more expensive than they officially earned in their entire lives.

[DED_peer_DED]

Kremlin cuisine is hidden from the eyes of the people and it’s very difficult to say what kind of processes are going on there.

They say there are many voids in that hill.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

With all due respect to the labor and time spent, Roman - every bast in a row!
You read the comments and remember the classics: discussions of “pique vests”!

And the materials of the emigrant government of the acquaintance of Latvia to me - they considered themselves entitled and experts on the current agenda of the LSSR.

If everything is predetermined - why goat button accordion?
-----
And all health, wash their hands, count and remember Moidodyr (Chukovsky, 1920-21), well, at least this:

".... It is necessary, it is necessary to wash
In the mornings and evenings
And unclean
Chimney sweeps -
Shame and disgrace!
Shame and disgrace!

Long live the fragrant soap
And a fluffy towel
And tooth powder
And a thick scallop!

Let’s wash, splash,
Swimming, diving, tumbling
In the tub, in the trough, in the tub,
In a river, in a brook, in the ocean, -
Both in the bath and in the bath,
Anytime and anywhere -
Eternal glory to the water! ... "

[samarin1969]

The possibilities of the Central Bank are great - the management of gold reserves, a "firm" rate, bank licenses, emission, ... And the fact that this body continues to be declared "independent" turns it simply into an independent branch of government.
EZ Nabiullina's ability to influence the country is no less than that of Nicholas II. Why such "independence" of the monetary authorities from the elected?

And the clones of the new state structures are also surprising. Instead of putting things in order in the constitutional bodies, they invented a bunch of "independents": Sledkom, Rosgvardia, the State Council, "ombudsmen", "advice on ...", a bunch of useless "growing ... supervision". In the field there is a double set of "leather cabinets" - administration and "councils" ...
For all the shortcomings of the tsarist and Soviet officials, there were few of them, and they did not particularly interfere. Now the "civil service" is both the leading "branch of the economy" and the "big family" with a tireless reproductive function.

[Valerych]

The constitutional coup, in fact, has already been completed.
On April 22.04.2020, XNUMX, they will formally "settle" this action and that's it.
People continue to hold for idiots.

CEC Chairwoman Ella Pamfilova said that in fact the amendments to the Constitution have already been adopted and are legitimate, and the upcoming April 22 vote is just Putin's "political will", which is "worthy of great respect."

“This law has already been adopted, amendments have been adopted, this process itself is legitimate. And only you can be very respectful that the president did not stop there, and his political will and desire is to hear in this case the opinion of the people that is not stipulated by the current Constitution. Additionally, [this] is a key phrase, he went for it, it is worthy of great respect, ”Pamfilova said.

[bessmertniy]

What is the whole point of voting if everything is decided for us. At least they saved money, which will be promoted to this circus.

[Snail N9]

A list of "changes in the Constitution" -old and new version and what has changed-added has been published on the website of the State Services
https://gosuslugi-online.ru/popravki-v-konstitucziyu-rf-2020-spisok-izmenenij/

[Valerych]

And in my opinion, the author wrote everything correctly. It can be seen that a man thinks soberly and sees that the anti-people government promotes its selfish interests, blowing dust in the eyes of the people.
Putin from a liberal is deformed into a usurper.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Nitarius

and to the author of the article there is a desire to solder the TIME for INFRASCIA and alarmism! !

Mister "clone", to put it bluntly. It is not familiar to you that the original declared publicly that the COURT determines the guilt? Put you and your kind at 17 and no better to come up with.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: Nitarius

the author is a liberal of pure water .. essentially a traitor to the MOTHERLAND! who ever ran this article here? question to administrators ..

We launched. Who's head not only is and thinks not on TV, Mr. "Nikolaich", who has not mastered the Russian language. 6 mistakes ... Well, for a real "patriot" this is normal, I already wrote once that 146% of a patriot should be as stupid and illiterate as possible.

Quote: Nitarius

Who allowed the traitor to write an article here? the author is a lying parasite .... that climbs out who really writes articles here .... Custom-made article of pure water ..

Calmer ... I have a monitor on the other side that you spit on ...

The author can do what you do not know how to read and think. And in general, to each his own - I think you vote.

Quote: Nitarius

Changes to the constitution of the case IMPORTANT about voting for it MUST BE!

"Nopesano for the Ruzian chilavecs!"

Quote: Nitarius

to the author of the article there is a desire to CONSOLIDATE TIME for INFRASCIA and alarmism! !

Yeah, you are more careful with your desires ... Agree. Four-point chlorpromazine has not been canceled in some cases.

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: Banshee

I already wrote once that 146% of patriots should be as stupid and illiterate as possible.

Because if a person is not stupid and competent, he will not be a patriot of Russia. And his children will live in Europe. Because the country has no future.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Because if a person is not stupid and competent, he will not be a patriot of Russia.

You do not confuse horseradish with radish.
Or do you have "I say Russia, I mean Putin"?
Yes, then write. What do you twist?

[Bashkirkhan]

With the terrible property stratification in Russia, as it is now, the country has no future. The same NATO today does not make sense to send its soldiers into our snowy wastelands. It is much more efficient to plant a puppet government that will work for its owner, but at the same time it is tough to keep a fooled population in check. No matter what, songs about external enemies, rising from their knees, spiritual bonds, the fifth column, endless parades, fireworks and salutes in honor of past victories, etc. Including that it is necessary to compress the rolls and tighten the belts. The main thing is that the country would not develop, but would remain in place as an oil well, or mine. And Russia's pseudo-elite on the Cote d'Azur, Sardinia, the Italian Riviera and other points where they hold private villas, will calmly use assets in the amount of 1 to 3 trillion dollars withdrawn outside Russia.

[Stas157]

Quote: Nitarius

the author is a liberal of pure water .. essentially a traitor to the MOTHERLAND! who ever ran this article here? question to administrators .. Who allowed the traitor to write an article here? the author is false parasite .... that’s really who writes the articles here .... The article is ordered pure water .. Constitutional changes it is IMPORTANT to vote for it MANDATORY! and the author of the article has a desire to solder for NON-DEFENSE and alarmism! !

Nikolaitch, go on to thump.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Stas157

Nikolaitch, go on to thump.

[Revival]

That's what happens when you write a comment and inadvertently sat on a hedgehog

[Varyag71]

It’s worthless to write about the guarantor

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Nitarius

TIME to solder for VISCILITY

Do you understand this issue so well in your "specialty"?
Or an amateur?

[AAK]

Colleague, abuse in the text of words or sentences consisting of CAPITAL letters is one of the unconditional signs of serious ill health in the head, get better ...

[Uncle lee]

We can write, read ... And think?

[Roman Skomorokhov]

It is individual. If you look at some saliva-splashing into the monitor, not everyone can.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Banshee

not everyone knows how.

Thinking is work.

[Bastinda]

“All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others "(Eng." All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others ")

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: DMB 75

And this means that he is trying to maintain the maximum amount of power - no matter in which package

Yes DMB 75 - it is.
But it’s not even important for Putin to stay in power.
"Problem 2024" is about the current Oligarch, who does not want to break away from the udder of Mother Russia.
"I sucked, I suck and I will suck!" - the motto of the current economic elite.
As for the Constitution, it’s a smoke screen.
"Look who benefits!" - said the ancients. And some of us are watching. And they even see.
I did not see the ballot for the referendum in the eye. But, I think - it will be very concise:
"Do you support the amendments?
WELL NO
Underline whatever applicable."
In my opinion, this document should consist of two points.
Least.
The first point is about amendments, since it’s already so hot for our government.
The second is about trusting the policy of the head of state and the possibility of his nomination for the next term.
So - it would be honest.
Not like dancing with tambourines based on Tereshkova's flight.

[bandabas]

As for promises, I recall the phrase of Fagott from "The Master and Margarita" in the circus - "And he simply lied! I congratulate you, citizen, lied!"

[parusnik]

Normal historical process ... From the beginning, they removed the candidate against all, then they introduced a 5% barrier, now in essence they offer the replacement of clans ... one sea otter changes the next, after the death of their representative ...

[Svarog]

Quote: parusnik

From the beginning, they removed the candidate against all, then they introduced a 5% barrier, now they basically offer the replacement of clans ..

And then they will generally remove the vote and transfer the power by inheritance ..

[Revival]

An important milestone in this process was the abolition of the minimum turnout.
So that the maze certainly was no way out

[DED_peer_DED]

one sea otter changes the next, after the death of their representative ...

"For reasons beyond the control of the people ..." (C)

[Whowhy]

I liked article 93. According to it, right now, V. Putin should "be removed from office" for violating the Constitution with his "pension reform" (Article 55, part 2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation: "2. The Russian Federation should not issue laws that abolish or belittling the rights and freedoms of a person and a citizen ") and even after the end of the presidency" is deprived of immunity. I would add it by the fact that the "convicted persons" not only lose their positions, but also receive a lifetime ban from holding any positions in the public sector.
But I didn't like the tone of the article: "boring", "not interesting" - I get the impression that this is a hidden call to "ignore" this vote. We must be aware that everyone who "votes with their feet" will actually vote "FOR".

[kartalovkolya]

I agree with you and I want to add something from myself; Reading this liberal howl, I remembered the words I heard from my long-dead father that if we are praised, our sworn enemies, then things are going "nowhere worse", and if they scold "why in vain" then comrades are going the right way "! This is exactly how the Russian liberals howled at Stolypin's reforms, but what did we expect from their descendants and successors of anti-Russian deeds ?!

[Buldozer]

Quote: kartalovkolya

I remembered the words I heard from my long-dead father that if we are praised, our sworn enemies, then things are going "worse than ever", and if they scold "for nothing" it means "comrades are on the right path!"

I adhere to this tactic too, and it concerns Russia in particular!

Quote: kartalovkolya

That's exactly how the Russian liberals howled at Stolypin’s reforms, and what did we expect from their descendants and successors of anti-Russian affairs? !!!

What a great example from our history and there are many .. And there is nothing to add!

[Varyag71]

Did the late father say anything about raising his retirement age? About the distribution of heroes and generals to anyone horrible? And about the middle class did not forget to share?

[kartalovkolya]

That "liberal traitors" really hurts your eyes? Well we "shook" this barrel of liberal crap, now the stench has risen to the skies! But as folk wisdom says: "... the dogs bark, the wind blows away ..."!

[Varyag71]

Kolya, are you from Urengoy by any chance? Your guarantor and your entire Kremlin are a whole liberal clan. I come from the USSR! And when SMERSH is created again and real people come to lead the country, you will crawl and merge each other in shit.

[AUL]

Quote: Buldozer

But what about the main change that the Russian legislation has a prerogative of international law ..?

Do you really think that this is the main change (albeit very important)? The whole garden is set to zero for a specific character! And, even kill me, I do not see any logic in the fact that the amendment of the Constitution (the matter, in general, everyday life changes) should result in the termination of the presidency and not, for example, the results of privatization!

[zsdk]

For whom is the new constitution? Yes, for that and those who want to rule forever without bearing any responsibility for their rule. And all the other amendments are just profanity.

[Gennady Korsunov]

Over time, all O.P.G. concepts and rules changed. The time has come for our O. P. G. to change which rules, but the concepts remain the same !! Skhodnyak of all levels (except bulls) spent! They have already approved everything, but with the bulls, as they say: We’ll see, they don’t moo and they don’t calve !!

[Maks1995]

The worst part is that they will still vote as they should.
They will add zeroes if something happens.
And the virus will only help to hide it ....

There will be life-long presidents, senators, judges, Families. All that is already now, but will be already legislative

[AK1972]

Quote: Buldozer

The more on the Internet we get (literally) opinions against the new Constitution, the more likely it will be accepted by a majority of votes ..

This probability was 100% at the stage of discussion of the so-called. amendments at the very top, when we could not even dream of such a thing. Ms. Pamfilova will provide, otherwise there was no need to fence a garden.

[Azis]

The "federal territories" that are introduced by Part 1 are not yet clear. x.NUMX... Further in the text, nowhere is there the concept of "federal territories", only a footnote to the federal law (which does not exist yet).
Part 2 of the same article seems to be correct in terms of prohibiting alienation of a part of the territory, but leaves not just a loophole, but a hole in the form of "delimitation, demarcation, redemarcation of the state border" (for the northern territories of the Japanese?).
new x.NUMX in paragraphs 5-7 actually duplicates the current article 7 with the exception of the concepts of "state pensions, benefits and other guarantees."
And, in general, the limited restrictions associated with "opening and having accounts (deposits), keeping cash and valuables in foreign banks located outside the territory of the Russian Federation" for the state / municipal service are not clear; are any other property, real estate, other than cash, abroad encouraged?

[Rusvelt]

Part 2 is an example of the same article, it seems that it is necessary and correct in terms of the ban on alienation of a part of the territory, but leaves not just a loophole, but a hole in the form of "delimitation, demarcation, redemarcation of the state border"

This is to account for the expansion of borders and the entry of future territories into Russia, which is inevitable!

[Revival]

What does the extension have to do with it, the ban on alienation does not interfere with the expansion, so the loophole concerns the options for alienation

[Freeman]

Azis Today, 08:05 AM
The "federal territories" introduced by Part 1 of Article 67 are not yet clear. Further in the text, nowhere is there the concept of "federal territories", only a footnote to the federal law (which does not exist yet).

I can assume that in the future, territories with mineral resources may be allocated from the lands of the subjects of the federation, into the so-called "federal territories". We get, as it were, "oprichnina" and "zemstvo", as in the time of Ivan the Terrible.
Again, these territories can be assigned to "governing" ("feeding") "especially trusted persons".
- Why not "a village with registered (" serfs ").
IMHO.

[Ivan Kolodin]

That’s how it is worth interpreting this norm, it is a reserve for the future law where all lands will be assigned to the right people and all within the framework of the constitution ....

[Old partisan]

It is enough to read and compare the constitution of 93goda and the current draft.
In fact, the constitution is the Basic Law having the primacy of the law, and not a subordinate act obeying federal laws.

[Boris55]

Quote: R. Skomorokhov

First one. About the state system. In principle, nothing of such vital importance, I don’t know how we lived without ... only the Russian language - the only common language. But somehow they lived here.

Do you understand that language is one of the elements of the formation of a single state?
Do you understand why in the Baltic States and Ukraine they are fighting the Russian language?

Quote: R. Skomorokhov

In general, all this is there in laws and codes, why it is necessary to introduce it into the Constitution is difficult to understand. The same controversial lawmaking as the first pile.

There are laws and codes, but I well remember how at the beginning of the 2 thousandths, under the Ivanovo Defense Ministry, we didn’t add a single penny to our pension for a year, and inflation was good.

Quote: R. Skomorokhov

The third. President and state apparatus. Well, yes, everything is pretty useful there. President and senior officials. This doesn’t concern us at all,

How does this not apply? We form the Duma, which appoints the prime minister and ministers. We, through the deputies, appoint the highest authority, which determines the future of our country.

The redistribution of power from the president to the parliament guarantees in the future against tyranny of power both of the legislative (Duma) and of the executive (presidential).

ps
Call constitutional amendments a bunch - this is disrespect for the Constitution of the Russian Federation, for Russia and its citizens. Your message is not to vote on the Constitution (is it possible to vote for a bunch) and leave everything in it as the State Department wrote, very frank. They earned $ 30. Voting will show which of us is right.

[Boris55]

Quote: The Last Astronaut

Do not toss beads in front of pigs.

Our people are as they are and there will be no other. And democrats, and liberals, and undecided - these are all our citizens. Management is an informational process. Not expressing your point of view, this means letting our enemies have us all as they please - they won’t wait!

[AK1972]

Quote: Boris55

We form the Duma, which appoints the prime minister and ministers. We, through the deputies, appoint the highest authority, which determines the future of our country.

If it's not difficult, give an example when the Duma, "elected" by us, turned down the candidacy of the prime minister proposed by the president or some minister.

[Boris55]

Quote: AK1972

when the Duma "chosen" by us wrapped up Prime Minister

And now she will not consider the proposed candidate, but appoint. Do you understand the difference?

Why the Duma did not wrap up the proposed candidacy - because the confrontation of the legislative (Duma) and executive (presidential) authorities will lead to the collapse of Russia. The responsible president will not propose a deliberate candidate, but an irresponsible one - will not be able to.

[AK1972]

Quote: Boris55

And now she will not consider the proposed candidate, but appoint. Do you understand the difference?

I understand, but I do not believe. The Duma, as before, will vote unanimously for the candidacy launched from the top.

[Varyag71]

And pensions, salaries of ordinary people is the respect of the authorities to them?

[Revival]

It's funny ..
1. "There are laws and codes, but I remember well how at the beginning of the 2s, under the Ivanov Ministry of Defense, not a single kopeck was added to our pension for a single year, and inflation was good."
And what prevents ignoring the constitution, as before laws and codes?
Have you asked a lot from Ivanov’s Defense Ministry for not complying with the law?
2. "How does it not concern? We form the Duma, which appoints the prime minister and ministers. We, through the deputies, appoint the supreme power, which determines the future of our country."
We form a thought, are we?
It is formed by "146%", which is not determined by us.
3. "ps
To call the amendments to the Constitution a bunch is disrespect for the Constitution of the Russian Federation, for Russia and its citizens. "
You write it to the top so they don’t read.
Respect for the constitution?
Causes? Does she guarantee something?

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Boris55

We form the Duma, which appoints the prime minister and ministers. We, through the deputies, appoint the highest authority, which determines the future of our country.

"Blessed is he who believes, warmth to him in the world!" "Woe from Wit" A. S. Griboyedov

[Gardamir]

I said that I would not go to a vote on the Constitution. But everything is much funnier. The constitution was adopted on April 22, the Kremlin simply deigns to find out the opinion of the people, although it’s a coronovirus, so the poll may not be possible.
Unless Putin really wants to put a bomb on Lenin’s grave.

[Boris55]

Quote: Gardamir

The Kremlin simply deigns to know the opinion of the people

No, that's not why. Our opinion is necessary for the amendments to the Constitution to take effect immediately, without waiting for the change of the Duma and the president.

[Hypatius]

We don't care about our opinion, we need extras for "Western partners". The amendments to the 1993 draft have already been adopted, Ella the Cannibal is not lying. For plebeians (natural persons), they even promised a day off and a free pie. Citizens of the USSR have nothing to do there. Turnout is complicity in a crime.

[Brigadier]

" Okay, Putin is happy with those who have started all this. We know them, heroes both in the literal and figurative sense of the word. Timchenko, Rotenberg, Sechin, Miller, Deripaska and so on. "

You can’t say better. Well, let these figures vote for Putin’s amendments for Putin as well.

And I will vote AGAINST !!!

[Boris55]

Quote: Brigadier

And I will vote AGAINST !!!

That is, you will vote to maintain the State Department Constitution? Well then, my friend, change the avataruk - the one in the bathhouse or a cross or underpants

[Round Smesharik]

Quote: Boris55

That is, you will vote to maintain the State Department Constitution?

It doesn’t matter against which to vote .. If only against Russia ..

[Whowhy]

And tell us, my friend, at least one State Department item of the current Constitution.

[Varyag71]

That is, after the adoption of the amendments, the State Duma will stop standing clapping its hands on the Americans?

[Revival]

Yes, you slipped to the templates, did not expect.
Or nothing to say?

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Brigadier

And I will vote AGAINST !!!

I hope to personally verify this by unfolding a bag of seeds and seeing the bird you put in the right place.

[Xnumx vis]

Bah, all faces familiar !!!! Test: From the first three lines, identify the writer !!!

[Alexander I]

Yes, calm down, amendments to the constitution do not cancel the presidential election.

[aglet]

Quote: Finches

Go to your deputies and ask them why he voted for this reform?

and who is your deputy who voted for you such a pension? oh yes, you don’t go to the polls, your commander in chief feeds you so well, so why vote, even for

[aglet]

Quote: Boris55

Do you understand that language is one of the elements of the formation of a single state?
Do you understand why in the Baltic States and Ukraine they are fighting the Russian language?

I understand perfectly, but we are not in the Baltic states and not in Ukraine, but at home. and here attacks on the Russian language are already serious, but in the current text of the constitution this is not written

[aglet]

Quote: Boris55

There are laws and codes, but I remember very well how at the beginning of the 2 thousandths, under Ivanovo, we didn’t add a single penny to our pension for a year, and inflation be healthy

then who was the president, do not remind?

[aglet]

Quote: Boris55

We form the Duma, which appoints the prime minister and ministers. We, through deputies, appoint the highest authority that determines the future of our country

are you a member of the lake cooperative? no? then your statements are ridiculous, I will open your eyes - we cannot influence anything of the above, and the new constitution will not help you with this

[aglet]

Quote: Boris55

Our people are as they are and there will be no other. And democrats, and liberals, and undecided - these are all our citizens

but we are higher than this, they are all ... well, they are Dartanyans and everything is in white! well, you understand, colleague.

[TAMBU]

Stormy and prolonged applause, turning into a standing ovation ... curtain ... =)

[aglet]

Quote: bandabas

phrase of Bassoon from "The Master and Margarita" in the circus

the bassoon did not play in the circus, read the classics, it will be more interesting than the constitution, and will bring more benefits

[Victorio]

Unpromising for 99% of the population.
====
already counted ?! but in general, to the author, opinions / beliefs / methods of upholding may be different, except for this.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I respect any opinion, any person regarding this article. The article is difficult, ambiguous. I agree that the higher echelons of power need updating. I agree that the GDP has also begun to be slightly entered and he has acquired lordly habits. The GDP of the beginning of 2000 and the current one are different people. But I’m afraid and didn’t forget how we all applauded Gorbachev, were angry with the Communist Party, how Moscow and Muscovites rode on, joyfully seeing the drunken, reformer, Yeltsin, and throughout the country, the army eked out a miserable existence .. All this was. Do not deny. This is our story, our shame and our choice. But at the same time, I am against chaos and mess. We laugh at the prickly neighbors, but it would be time for us to draw conclusions and not turn our homeland into a dirty, servile maidan. Just don’t quarrel, people. Maybe we’ll break through. Just let's think HEAD. HEART, we already ,, thought ,,

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

But I am afraid and have not forgotten how we all

About "everything", please be careful.
Doctors call this diagnosis "Megalomania" when the patient speaks from himself - "We".

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Oh well. ,, majority ,, - will you be satisfied?)

[Rusvelt]

Part 2 is an example of the same article, it seems that it is necessary and correct in terms of the ban on alienation of a part of the territory, but leaves not just a loophole, but a hole in the form of "delimitation, demarcation, redemarcation of the state border"

This is to take into account the expansion of borders and the entry of future territories into Russia, which is inevitable! [/ Quote]

[vit670]

Quote: Buldozer

But what about the main change that the Russian legislation has a prerogative of international law ..?
The same Hague court ordered Russia to pay Khodor 50 lard, although according to our laws he is a thief and a murderer .. I think because of this amendment all the cheese goes and howling in the world

All these amendments are nonsense in vegetable oil! It all depends on the power of the state! Try to offend the USA! And a poor, plundered Russia is kicked by anyone who is lazy from the Baltic to Ukraine ... Ukraine does not want to pay us 3 lard debt and does not pay. Instead, we dumped 3 lard for them .. And try to twitch - they will arrest property abroad, of which there are many! Yes, they will squeeze our billionaires who also have property and money there. But they in power in Russia will do as they are told from Washington as nice. And no amendments to the Constitution will help! How the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact did not help Stalin ... All these are empty pieces of paper ... Learn from the USA - they wanted to spit on all these Constitutions and treaties!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

You're right. The agreement is equal. Violate, the strongest.

[aglet]

Quote: Van 16

It is truth too. Unfortunately, there are few people around the president who, to put it mildly, inspire confidence

who promoted them there? Trump, no less, or some other bastard

[kig]

I can imagine how together we will all begin to “grow fat” in Putin’s way at 100 rubles per dollar

And like this:

True, for this you need to have dollars... and have something to spend them on.

[aglet]

Quote: Banshee

falling ruble, rising prices, pension theft

I would add the word “permanent” before this, or rather

[vit670]

Quote: Van 16

It is truth too. Unfortunately, there are few people around the president who, to put it mildly, inspire confidence.

What kind of president - such is his entourage dear!

[aglet]

Quote: Finches

However, for some reason I see very few people wearing masks.

because there are no masks

[Salty]

Quote: aglet

Quote: Finches

However, for some reason I see very few people wearing masks.

because there are no masks

Bandages, gauze, toilet paper also no?

[last astronaut]

Stop being hysterical. Hygiene measures are always necessary. For example, washing your hands before eating, or coming home from the street. The rest is all from the evil one.

[Salty]

Quote: The Last Astronaut

Stop hysteria

Is this exactly what you wanted to tell me? ;)

[Round Smesharik]

What a great guy Skomorokhov is, how he explained everything in detail, you don’t even need to think, just don’t go to vote and that’s it..
Yeltsin's constitution was the best in the entire history of Russia!

[last astronaut]

,,Yeltsin’s Constitution was the best in the entire history of Russia!,,

(I understand your sarcasm.)

It's no secret that the constitution of the 90s was written by Americans.
That's why liberals and co. howl like that.

[Round Smesharik]

Quote: The Last Astronaut

It's no secret that the constitution of the 90s was written by Americans.
That's why liberals and co. howl like that.

This is where many people sing for this.. Let's support them in a single impulse on the Internet ..And we will vote .as our conscience dictates..

[Whowhy]

If you carefully read the amendments, then behind all the social tinsel, which has no place at all in the Constitution (if it is written there that our State is social), there are hidden amendments leading to the formation of a pro-fascist totalitarian state, with unlimited power of the “president”. According to these amendments, absolutely all branches of government will now directly depend on the “president” (and be appointed and removed). Therefore I will definitely I'll go vote VS fascism, although I am aware that the authorities are simply trying to “translate being into obligation.”
I would, of course, change something in the Yeltsin Constitution. For example, he would introduce an article on the liability of any government officials for violating it and deviating from the course towards a “social State”, nationalize the mineral resources, prohibit government officials from having accounts and real estate abroad, etc. and so on.... BUT, even in its existing form, the current Constitution is much better (at least it leaves at least some hope for a “bright future”) compared to what is proposed through these notorious amendments.

[Round Smesharik]

Quote: whowhy

If you carefully read the amendments, you will see behind all the social tinsel that has no place at all in the Constitution

I am for the amendment to the new Constitution,.. That the Laws of Russia prevail over international law (two-faced) and the Hague courts did not force Russia to pay them (Hodor) 50 lard and other ECHR to all thieves and murderers...
And then I see there’s just a wave of lawsuits against Russia, and it’s all thanks to the Yeltsin Constitution..Are you going to pay?
Keep shouting, and the people of Russia will accept the new Constitution, I’m sure of it..

[Whowhy]

Well, of course, your own thieves are more valuable to yourself....

[Round Smesharik]

Quote: whowhy

Well, of course, your own thieves are more valuable to yourself....

Well, liberal thieves in the 90s, there has never been anything like this in the entire history of Russia... Do you dream about the seven-banker system and the EBN? Oh well

[DED_peer_DED]

and this is all thanks to the Yeltsin Constitution..

Thank you, dear man, for the clarification... And I’m old, with a hole in my head, I still couldn’t understand what’s stopping us from rushing forward, what’s preventing people from getting fat, what’s pulling us to the bottom all the time... Explained.. .thank you.
Eltsin Constitution.
And its impeccable observance for more than 20 years.
Eka, he had us by the gills with his writing, some kind of malignant? Look, where the dog is - rummaged around.
That's it, Ig Nobel Prize to you for your discoveries in the field of modern law and economics.

[Blue fox]

Quote: Victor N

In VO, you can identify and then catch the entire fifth column.

And employees of one specialized propaganda department.

[aglet]

Quote: bessmertniy

And they don’t need an aspen stake !? To these ghouls.!?

but this is already incitement! wait for the Russian Guard capture group at your email address

[Stalnov I.P.]

In short, according to the article, everything is correct for the PEOPLE NOTHING, for those close to the body everything is the same as for yourself, a million a day of salary and 17000 rubles a month, a more cynical statement needs to be invented. There is a cartoon about a baby dragon, where the phrase “to me, to me, to me” is completely true. There will be, the Tsar, boyars and slaves. Although many boyars, if there were no Soviet power, would be slaves or allowed to live only in Little Russia, but not like in the capitals of the empire, everyone will understand who wants to. By the way, these boyars are the ones who bawl the most.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: I.P. Stalnov.

By the way, these boyars are the ones who bawl the most.

And at all sorts of “Humorines” they make jokes.

[Pavel Amarok]

Once upon a time, Mark Twain already spoke about the very essence of elections.

[Whowhy]

And he also wrote that “any party will eventually choke on its own lies.”

[Pavel Amarok]

And this is the correct answer!)

[faterdom]

Everything is some kind of profanation. A simulacrum of state activity produced by those who really do not want to tear themselves away from the trough.
It is presented under the guise of almost “Petrine reforms”, that before we were no-no, but now wow...
We swear to index the pension (regardless of the exchange rate of world money, but these are the little things where the suckers go...)
And now the range of those who lead us forward is comprehensive - from the first female cosmonaut, to “Sasha Bely”, who stands up for the Russian language...
Let's move it to September... Firstly, the voting day is, after all, the same, and with observers.
Secondly, now the exam has come, and come on, gentlemen Karelin-Tereshkov-Volodin and those higher up, demonstrate how the system you have built will lead us through the storms and reefs of the “perfect storm”.
You tell us a lot and insistently how great you are, and how much you think about the people! People want to see in reality whether this is so, otherwise, you know, there are big doubts.
And men and women will find each other anyway, even without a Constitution at all; in primitive society they somehow dealt with this, what was destined for where...

[Revival]

What a primitive ...
Echo, oval, 30 pieces of silver, gosdet, 55 column...
You're getting smaller

[Sergej1972]

I’m just interested in the amendments on the relationship between the President, the Duma, and the Federation Council. But this is probably professional.)

[Roman12345678]

Article 671. This is the MOST where the ancestors who transmitted to us ideals and faith in God, the protection of historical truth and children as the most important priority of the spiritual policy of the state.

The cocktail is funny and creepy at the same time. It’s impressive with just such a hodgepodge, unrelated to anything.

But all sorts of Khabenskys and others like him talk from the screen of the box every half hour about how this is correct and necessary..

[place]

Heh, heh.... I advise you to read the Wiki article "cargo cult".
For example: cults arose mainly in Papua New Guinea....... “exact copies” of runways, airports and radio towers are built from coconut palms and straw. Followers of the cult build them in the belief that these buildings will attract transport planes (which are considered messengers of spirits) filled with cargo... stew, condensed milk, beads... and other goodness...

Yes, and with us everything is like white people!!! There is the White House, the Senate, and presidential elections. there is even a Constitution. It lies on a shelf just like on Olympus itself in Washington! And if the Tsar and his boyars allow it, we will elect them many, many times more.

And to hell with it, with the stew - we are not Papuans, we would only like the Real King, just like on Olympus - so that according to all the rules - and there we can at least subsist on crackers and thin milk...

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: ort

and there we’ll at least survive on crackers and thin milk somehow....

I agree... Happiness is NOT in food, but in faith in the Tsar, the autocrat.

[Oleg_ru]

What can I say on behalf of a person who has read everything in good faith? Honestly, boring and uninteresting. Not at all interesting.

The author of the article should have not only conscientiously read the amendments to the Constitution, but also at least tried to delve into their content a little, then he would have discovered a lot of interesting things.
So... If the president appoints 30 representatives to the Federation Council (according to amendments to Article 95 part 2 (c) and part 5), could be explained by the desire to strengthen presidential influence in the Federation Council, then granting lifelong senatorship to the 7th of them, and to ex-presidents (former presidents), this is already called the provision of opportunities for the appropriation of power.
And it also undermines the foundations of democratic states, which provide for at least periodic re-election of representatives of elected authorities by universal suffrage. The introduction of lifelong possession of power is already the basis of a monarchical system.
The Russian Federation, in accordance with Article 1 of the Constitution, is a democratic state, and neither monarchist.
What is more interesting, with each new President, after 6 years, the number of senators with a lifetime membership will further increase by 7 representatives, plus the ex-president. Therefore, the proposed amendments did not specifically indicate the total or maximum number of senators in the Federation Council, in contrast to the State Duma of 450 deputies.
Speaking of citizens who can receive a lifelong senatorial service for outstanding services to the country. Then here is the appointment of former senators "toxic" ministers will clearly not coincide with the opinion of the people.
As an example, it is enough to recall Putin’s awarding the title of Hero of Russia to Kiriyenko. Well, what about Chubais, who organized the privatization of state enterprises in the 90s; the current oligarchs and ruling elite owe him a lot.
As a result, the Federation Council will act to a greater extent in defense of business oligarchs and the ruling elite, to the detriment of the interests of the people.
The granting of lifelong senatorship to former presidents (Article 95, part 2 - b) should be limited to an age limit of 80 years, so that later a medical commission would not have to be conducted to diagnose signs of senile dementia in lifelong senators.

On the necessary amendments to protect the interests of the people in the article https: //leg-begov.rf/konstituciya.html

[canurodes]

I think that by April 20 the dollar should fall to 70, but people need to be scolded a little. Vote or lose.

[Round Smesharik]

Quote: canurodes

I think that by April 20 the dollar should fall to 70, but people need to be scolded a little. Vote or lose.

Well, now Muscovites will run to return their dollars.. And they don’t care about the coronavirus..)) Well, why such provocations? They have already been running around shops and exchange offices.. Have pity on them..)))

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: canurodes

I think that by April 20 the dollar should fall to 70

And then....what....do you think?

[Knell wardenheart]

A clear “NO” to this whole adventure.

[aleks.29ru]

As long as the laws are written in bird language, we will live by the laws of the chicken coop: climb to a higher perch and shit on those lower.

[Oleg_ru]

Article 671. This is the SAME one where ancestors who passed on our ideals and faith in God, protection of historical truth and children as the most important priority of the spiritual policy of the state.
The cocktail is funny and creepy at the same time. It’s impressive with just such a hodgepodge, unrelated to anything.

Speaking of ancestors.
What political ancestor - "activist", Putin most extols and honors with the annual laying of flowers at the Yeltsin Center - perhaps a rhetorical question.
And it is worth recalling that the authorities, contrary to the opinion and protests of the people, want to preserve (perpetuate) the memory of their ancestor Boris Yeltsin by opening the Yeltsin Center in Moscow. Through the construction of these Centers, it will be easier for the authorities to impose on the younger generation "necessary" liberal ideals.
The current government rather views freedom of speech and electronic democracy as modern threats that do not correspond to the ideals passed down by their ancestors.

The content of ideals always has a specific historical character and is associated with the system of values ​​existing in society.

So according to Marx and Engels.
The formal legal equality of man to man is the class ideal of the bourgeoisie.
Its real substrate turns out to be the concrete historical form of economic inequality - between the capitalist and the wage worker.
Freedom in the sphere of thought and morality is here considered in alienation from economic relations and presupposes the absolute slavery of man in the sphere of real life, and above all in the economy, and leads to the transformation of man into a partial part of a partial machine, into a slave of things.
For the proletariat and, in general, for the majority of the human race, this ideal is not at all as tempting as it is for the philosopher - ideologist of the bourgeoisie.

[Oleg_ru]

Power adding to the Constitution faith in God, primarily pursued by the desire to play on the feelings of believers in God (into the existence of the soul). Bribe them with a word about God, so that for the sake of this, without hesitation, they accept the rest of the presidential amendments to the Constitution, increase the turnout in voting for amendments to the Constitution and its future legitimacy.
Only here, under the guise of a mention faith in God in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the proposed presidential amendments to the Constitution ultimately will turn around "God's" punishment for the people, preserving the ongoing trend of stratification of society into rich and poor, in the interests of long-term prosperity and the privileged position of oligarchs-businessmen and the ruling elite, protection of the established financial-oligarchic pseudo-democratic regime from political dissent (electronic democracy, democracy, freedom of speech), keeping the people in fear and obedience.
The ruling regime taxes, raising the retirement age, low wages "beat" into the pockets of the people. Now the government reminds the people of faith in God, so that the people remember (Christian) patience before their lot (fate). And he put his other neck up to take the subsequent blows of fate, resigned himself to his difficult fate, and continued to work in fear and obedience for the well-being of the ruling elite. Promising the people for this (to God's servants) salary and pension not lower than the subsistence level, sufficient to survive and fall into credit bondage.

Before mentioning faith in God (Higher Powers) in the proposed new Trans-Capitalist Constitution, it is necessary first to bring the Constitution to a more humane form - foundations of civilized development.

On the necessary amendments to protect the interests of the people in the article https: //leg-begov.rf/konstituciya.html

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Oleg_ru

By adding faith in God to the Constitution, the government is primarily pursuing the desire to play on the feelings of believers in God

In God's laws there is no mention of “elections” of kings and “referendums” for the mob.

[Campanella]

The Constitution created by Yeltsin and amended by Putin was made for anyone but the people. Take, for example, law enforcement, how difficult it is for ordinary people, but for powerful people it is carried out at a click. Where is this laudatory equality?

[Round Smesharik]

How many newbies and old-timers came running... The screaming just filled my ears, like with a shell shock...

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Round smesharik

The screaming just fills your ears, like a concussion...

From the zombie box, doesn’t pawn anything? Are constipation or gallstones bothering you?

[Den717]

To be completely uninteresting, to be honest. Unpromising for 99% of the population.

As I understand it, this final phrase is the meaning of the entire article. All voices, from freedom to America, advise us exactly the same. Conclusion: the author advocates for the point of view of our opponents. It’s probably pointless to add anything or try to explain it to a fifty-year-old journalist who has a full understanding of the legal framework of his country. He already knows all this. This means that his position is not due to ignorance of the subject of the article, but from the desire to adjust the conclusion to a pre-planned result. Please note, there is not a word about the fact that those interstate agreements (decisions of courts of different Hagues, Bussels, etc.) that contradict the Constitution will not be enforced. I think this is the most important amendment for the sake of which all this was started. I think that court decisions on MH17 will be made strictly against Russia, regardless of the logic of events. What will follow, see the history of pressure on Gaddafi. It seems to me that the situation that the Anglo-Saxons are unfolding against the backdrop of this trial is much more serious than we think. And the President understands this and builds some kind of protective structure. And the West also understands this, and therefore expresses a negative reaction to this matter. The author decided to help the West against his country of residence. I will not discuss the motivation for this decision. However, everything is simple...

[Nicola I]

Absolutely right. And no payments of 50 billion to Yukos. And in general, our territory is our laws. And no laws on domestic violence. These LGBT people are already sick of it. Judging by the silence and distortion, the author is a devoted liberal.

[U-58]

It depends on who “we” are and who is whose opponent..

[Den717]

Quote: U-58

It depends on who “we” are and who is whose opponent..

If it is not clear from what has been written, then we are those citizens of Russia who believe that they can live independently without orders from their neighbors, and our opponents are those neighboring and not so neighboring states who want to subordinate our actions to their interests.

[U-58]

Then I don’t understand why you call a person who criticizes liberals a liberal and place him on the other side of the barricades...

[Den717]

Quote: U-58

Then I don’t understand why you call a person who criticizes liberals a liberal and place him on the other side of the barricades...

Firstly, I did not mention the word “liberal”. Secondly, the traitor does not need to share the ideology of the owner. There are quite possible other motivations, for example, financial ones.

[U-58]

Then explain why a patriot who wants a change in the political course of the country and, accordingly, the leader and who is opposed to the extension of the powers of the main conductor of old and anti-people ideas, is put by you on a par with the enemy abroad?
How can he and others like him change anything in the country and society without becoming a “hireman” of the West?
Is it really only through the underground and revolutions?

[Den717]

Quote: U-58

Then explain why a patriot who wants a change in the political course of the country and, accordingly, the leader and who is opposed to the extension of the powers of the main conductor of old and anti-people ideas, is put by you on a par with the enemy abroad?

Because our foreign “friends” want exactly the same thing.

Quote: U-58

How can he and others like him change anything in the country and society without becoming a “hireman” of the West?

Gather your like-minded people, organize a political party, convince the country that you are right, win the elections, go to the polls in 2024 and be elected President. The only way. If he is right, then the people will be for him. And if there are only personal interests behind his words, then the people will react accordingly. Do you have any other suggestions? Do you want revolution and civil war? I don't think it will get better.

[U-58]

Well, what to do with “imputed” bills and kilograms of gold, which do not exist and never existed?))))))))
Yes, and regarding the interests of the West.
Newfangled theory that the Germans used Lenin....
But it has long been and repeatedly appreciated, including in the West, that Vladimir Ilyich took full advantage of this.
Germans...
So, the coincidence of interests (of course, imaginary, far-fetched because the goals are different) cannot serve as a justification for the changes being introduced..

[Den717]

Quote: U-58

So, the coincidence of interests (of course, imaginary, far-fetched because the goals are different) cannot serve as a justification for the changes being introduced..

You are lost in concepts. They have one goal - a change in the president and the management regime. Interests are different, perhaps. Because true interests are not always exposed. And whoever you are pulling by the ears, Ilyich, gold, then it’s entirely your business.

[U-58]

Am I wandering?))))))))
Dee nothing like it.
I drove you into a corner, because you need to answer correctly and specifically and indicate your personal positions - for the Bolsheviks or for the communists.
I am for both. That is, for the International.
I didn’t leave the CPSU (I didn’t run away and, I hope, I didn’t change my color), I somehow don’t like the power of big capital....

[Den717]

Quote: U-58

I drove you into a corner

It seems so to you.

Quote: U-58

Didn’t leave the CPSU (didn’t run away and, I hope, didn’t repaint)

But your leaders from the CPSU, it seems, did not even join there (in terms of ideological principles). Your party has rotted from the top, and your party bosses and their young shoots, Komsomol functionaries, have become sharks of “big capital.” They manipulated you, and you are happy about it. I, too, was in that party for some time, realized in time that this was not the same All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks that my grandfather was in, and left. As a result, you show a very strange attachment - you are for an International that does not exist, you did not leave the party, which itself dispersed you all. You're proud of it.... Well, no one is perfect.

[U-58]

But the only Russia is full of fresh forces, leaders and ideas)))))))))

[Den717]

Quote: U-58

But the only Russia

There is no need to say anything about EP at all. Complete rabble and no ideological unity. The only thing that EP has in common is its closeness to management people.

[U-58]

At least my position is clear, unlike yours.
You seem to be both for no one and against everyone :-))))

[Den717]

Quote: U-58

You seem to be both for no one and against everyone :-))))

To be honest, I don’t see a political force that would appeal to me. Ideally, it would be the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) of the 40s. But today I don’t see any prospects for recreating it. Therefore, yes, I am neither for United Russia nor for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, and even more so against Yabloko and Parnassami. If United Russia formulates its ideological framework, and most importantly, throws off the ballast from those stuck in the person of those striving for power at any cost, then it could be considered as close in spirit. But these tasks have not been stated by the party leadership, and therefore will not be solved.

[U-58]

Oh come on......
In the absence of a stamp, we write in simple....
There is a bloc of national-patriotic forces led by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, and there are worthy candidates.
And not only of them: Baburin, Glazyev, although I am for the business executive Grudinin.
And if you don’t see progressive forces, don’t know who to lean on, then don’t you care what’s going on in the kingdom?

[lopuhan2006]

Quote: neri73-r

Quote: lopuhan2006

and refusal of alcohol in any form)

Well, you grabbed it !!! Too or after an emergency.

After organizing a funeral for a year, first a comrade, then a father. And if you consider that before that I was in the category on holidays, and not on Fridays, then I probably again was not in the herd like everyone else.

[PVM]

My correspondence with Yandex Zen participant “MEN’S REVELATIONS”
Me: I propose, after Putin’s death, to put him in a hundred-story marble mausoleum on Red Square on
eyelids - eternal. Inside there is a museum of the real history of our country from 1917 to the present. Let future generations know that you can’t live like this!
“MEN’S REVELATIONS”: Vasily Mikhailovich Postavnoy, I wouldn’t like...
just burn it.
Me: Since they decided to burn it, then the ashes will be left alive by the wind!
But the voting is a done deal, we have nothing to worry about.

[U-58]

That's right. It's like a Christmas tree.
Svol - the aspirations of the authorities.
But so that everything would not look too shameless, they hung candy on the branches for the people.
Then these candies will turn out to be empty candy wrappers.
[Uncle Petya, are you d....k?©]
But many will fall for it...
The people, already largely distrusting the authorities, have not yet learned to think with their heads; they have been weaned off by stupid TV series and talk shows on the topic: what color are Alla Pugacheva’s panties...

[faterdom]

Quote: Den717

The President understands this and is building some kind of protective structure. And the West also understands this, and therefore expresses a negative reaction to this matter. The author decided to help the West

How suspicious and revealing you are...
And here’s something for you: what prevents you from voting on the amendments separately, and assigning the status of a referendum to the vote, rather than promises to “listen” if the results coincide with the “correct opinion”?
Doesn't this look like a scam when, under the guise of one thing, they sell you several... different things?
And we have been helping the West a lot for a long time. Already by the fact that we take the money earned by our people there. We forgive debts left and right. And much more...
So I don’t know whether the author decided to help the West... but I see on TV every day those who have already helped and are helping.

[flicker]

Let me remind you: what prevents you from voting on the amendments separately, and assigning the status of a referendum to the vote, and not promises to “listen”

I thought that it was only the author who didn’t understand a thing.
They fell asleep themselves.
When the constitution was adopted, did you vote for each article or for the whole thing?
To introduce amendments, it was necessary and sufficient to obtain 2/3 of the Duma votes and 3/4 of the Federation Council votes, then the signature of the president. And no referendum is required.
We decided to publicly discuss these amendments and find out the general attitude of the people (not through a survey, but through voting) to these amendments. Moreover, take into account our attitude towards the adoption of amendments. If we don’t support it, they won’t accept it.
Once again, this vote is redundant for constitutional amendments, but it is held and given the deciding factor.
ZY The author doesn’t understand a damn thing about the topic raised, it’s immediately clear that he has never been sued, otherwise he wouldn’t have written such nonsense, like, and so everything is clear.

[KSVK]

Quote: Victor N

The Russian state was created not by us, but by our ancestors over the centuries. They needed it, it was useful. This is value. Our job is to preserve and adapt it to solve new problems - to increase the value of the Russian State.

Could you please clarify which state YOU are talking about now? Well, which was “built over centuries” by our ancestors. Maybe about the state of Ivan IV? Or about Peter I. So the differences there were innumerable. Or maybe under Catherine II? Or under Paul I? Or maybe under Alexander I or Nicholas II? Or maybe YOU mean the Soviet Union?
Can you be more specific? And then at different times many of the current independents were part of the Russian state. And therefore, it’s not entirely clear to me who built what there and to whom it handed it over.
And most importantly, what exactly from the above should I “preserve and adapt”. And what does all this have to do with our current, it’s not clear what, either feudal or slave-owning system.

Quote: Victor N

But I can support (and MUST) those who know what to do and whom I respect.

I apologize, but if YOU don’t understand, then how do you determine WHO KNOWS WHAT to do? Or is it a matter of respect? But what if I respect my neighbor who runs in the morning? Does this mean that he is worthy of being supported by me in the presidential (for example) elections?

Quote: Victor N

And I must respect those whom I put forward and elected the people in power.

Who exactly are you referring to? This is especially interesting about the nomination.
And it’s very interesting who “the people” can GENERALLY nominate and elect. Well, according to the law, of course. 

Quote: Den717

Quote: NordUral

I did not put forward these and did not vote for them.

We have democracy, so a minority will be forced to submit to the majority.

The calculation of this very “majority” is interesting.
And they will force you to obey in any case. This is undeniable.

Quote: Finches

The people have become wiser!

Um, maybe he’s just poor?

Quote: Finches

And here in America they argue - in Russia there is “Avangard”, in Russia there is “Dagger”... not a bunch of crap!

Yes. The Soviet Iskander was stuck to the Soviet MiG and called “hypersonic”. Definitely not “khukhry-mukhry”. AdnAzNaNa! Glory to our Great Ruler! Zrada! Did you win?

Quote: Finches

Who is helping a prosperous Italy today - Russia!

Yes Yes. In Russia there is no one to help. Only the whole country collects money for treatment for children on TV. But what is it, poor Italians are suffering there.

Quote: Finches

Yes, there are enough internal problems, so when they were not enough

And there’s no point in solving them. Let's set up a dictatorship, they will decide on their own. Once and for all. It won't be long until the last Russian in Russia dies.

[Erik]

Quote: Victor N

The Russian state was not created by us, but by our ancestors over the centuries. They needed it, it was useful. This is a value. Our business is to preserve and adapt to solve new problems - to increase the value of the Russian State. This YOU (!) Were unable to understand - it happens, not all universities graduate .....

Oh, how did you babble? Come on? What about universities? Which? Which ones are paid? You would go somewhere else. For example, to church! What you propose is called "solidarism"! We've already been through this, remember Vlasova? Are there all sorts of NTS? Observing local inhabitants on this forum, one gets the impression that the level of fascisation is growing by leaps and bounds. Whether it is conscious or not is another question. Tell us more about the third way! Special, only for Mother Russia. Or there, “give 20 years of peace, internal and external. And you will not recognize Russia.” What else is there? Open the casket. Get the manuals. Remember, there is no third way, neither Russia nor anyone else. Better get your paints ready so you can repaint on time!
There is hysteria on channel 2. There are all sorts of coronaviruses, and under this, the global financial crisis is raging. Not a bad background. While people are thinking about how not to die from the infection, they are being quietly robbed. Since Russia is a country of peripheral capitalism, people here will suffer doubly. And you, with your “smart” thoughts, contribute to this scoundrel. Are you an ideological person? Or purchased ones? The last people to use the current flag of the Russian Federation were the Vlasovites. Yeltsin centers and so on. The murky story with the drapery of the mausoleum, the school in Gorki near Moscow, and so on. In short, get some paint ready.

[flicker]

third way! Special, only for Mother Russia.

Isn’t that the case in your kibbutz?

[Erik]

I don’t know how it is in your kibbutzim. But if you want to make some humor about the topic of Jews, then I live in Russia. Moreover, if I wanted to move to my historical homeland, I would go to Germany. But my recent ancestors fought for the Soviet Motherland. So use humor, but be careful. Buy some paint.

[flicker]

But my recent ancestors fought for the Soviet Motherland.

It turns out that you are now fighting against your ancestors?

[Erik]

How about your head? Are you making friends? The ancestral homeland of the USSR. They fought for it. For the state of workers and peasants. Are you by any chance a fascist? Even if it’s latent. Or 15 rubles?

[flicker]

The ancestral homeland of the USSR. They fought for it. For the state of workers and peasants.

The USSR is a form of government in Russia.
But the homeland is Russia, the same one that you sarcastically call “Russia”.
And if there were not a state of “workers and peasants”, but the Russian Federation, as it is now, then your ancestors would not have considered it their Motherland and would not have fought against Nazi Germany?

[Erik]

What kind of cheap tricks are these? Do you want to rewrite history? Well then, it’s understandable if it’s from the “grandmother and the genital” category. Do you want to talk about birches? You will lose, I warn you right away.

[andrew42]

The Russian state (the current one) was created in 1991. It has nothing to do with the Soviet Union, and a very, very distant, parodic relationship to the Russian Empire (the composition of the elite there was different). And my ancestors, if they could, would have strangled this bourgeois-oligarchic monster with their own hands.

[fk7777777]

Thanks Romych, well explained. I would write, but I’m afraid that apart from the non-literary language, I won’t find words on the essence of this lawlessness. So the economic development model is something like this: a simple worker has a good apartment of 11 square meters. m., but separate and in debt for 300 years, pension for 150 years, well, the slogan is like you can do anything. Well, those who have somehow trained, for example, a doctor, well, let a proctologist, at least somehow be able to work as an ENT specialist, a dentist, but what?, there is so much advice here that you need to move, well, move around on the couch, when you come across such a specialist.

[Marine engineer]

[quote=Chervonny]The authorities don’t let go, they hold [quote=Stas157]Roman correctly stated, all these amendments - booth with swollen cheeks. There is no sense in them, except for the king’s authority to renew once again.

The Tsar is committing outrages, but he wants to do it with popular approval. Or rather, under his appearance. Because the opinion of the people has long been trampled upon.[/quote]

[Hypatius]

All laws of the management company of the Russian Federation apply only to the continental shelf, and there was no act of acceptance and transfer of territories and property from the RSFSR. However, thanks to these amendments, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation will be able to seize these territories and all resources into ownership, and not just management. Citizens who came to the plebescite will sign in the journal that they are down and they need a new trust and executor. When receiving a legally insignificant piece of paper - a ballot without a seal or signature, they will once again confirm this. At the end of the trust, you can create a new trust (=amendments), or return the property to the founders - citizens of the USSR with a profit. The EBN signed the decree on the first trust simultaneously with the 1993 project. The USSR is alive and reborn.

[faterdom]

Quote: flicker

characterize the competence of the author of jurisprudence

What - only lawyers are offered to vote? Then these amendments would be written in Latin - and a square would be printed for the people - where to put their finger.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: faterdom

What - only lawyers are offered to vote?

Voting yourself and explaining to others exactly how to vote are two very different things. When dealing with the second, it is worthwhile (at least for decency) to understand at least a little about the subject under discussion. IMHO.

[flicker]

What - only lawyers are offered to vote?

But is it really about what deprives you and the author of the opportunity to vote? No.
The point is that the author undertook to evaluate the amendments within the framework of the current constitution.
It’s one thing to talk about the content of the amendment (which voters can and should do) - and another thing to give these amendments a legal assessment (what lawyers do professionally and what the author tried to do through attempts: “heap”, “cocktail”, “hodgepodge”, etc. rave).

[akula]

Those in power have become completely insolent. There is no limit to cowardice and greed.

[flicker]

Quote: Den717

To be completely uninteresting, to be honest. Unpromising for 99% of the population.

As I understand it, this final phrase is the meaning of the entire article. All voices, from freedom to America, advise us exactly the same. Conclusion: the author advocates for the point of view of our opponents. It’s probably pointless to add anything or try to explain it to a fifty-year-old journalist who has a full understanding of the legal framework of his country. He already knows all this. This means that his position is not due to ignorance of the subject of the article, but from the desire to adjust the conclusion to a pre-planned result. Please note, there is not a word about the fact that those interstate agreements (decisions of courts of different Hagues, Bussels, etc.) that contradict the Constitution will not be enforced. I think this is the most important amendment for the sake of which all this was started. I think that court decisions on MH17 will be made strictly against Russia, regardless of the logic of events. What will follow, see the history of pressure on Gaddafi. It seems to me that the situation that the Anglo-Saxons are unfolding against the backdrop of this trial is much more serious than we think. And the President understands this and builds some kind of protective structure. And the West also understands this, and therefore expresses a negative reaction to this matter. The author decided to help the West against his country of residence. I will not discuss the motivation for this decision. However, everything is simple...

I absolutely agree, and therefore upvote.

[faterdom]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Voting yourself and explaining to others exactly how to vote are two very different things.

And believing in God yourself and explaining to others exactly how to believe are even bigger differences. And how much more profitable the latter is from all sides!

[Lekz]

“Protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble is the main function of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which it carries out independently of other government bodies.”
I looked. The dollar is almost 80, the euro is almost 86.

Why are we laughing? No such task was formulated for the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. And now it will be (of course, if anyone is interested). Then it will be possible to ask Nabiulina.
The rest is also funny. The weirdo is trending. I read it, but didn’t understand anything.

[flicker]

The rest is also funny. The weirdo is trending. I read it, but didn’t understand anything.

Yeah, in fact, the author briefly and talentedly described all his attempts

Carefully read ALL amendments It took a very decent amount of time, and this is what I would like to tell you after reading and understanding.

I didn't understand, to be honest...

They say that “brevity is the sister of talent.”

[andrew42]

And who will ask her, Nabiulina? The Central Bank is not controlled by government authorities. One can only guess how the financial block of the government functions in general, those “poor fellows”...

[Lekz]

And who will ask her, Nabiulina?

Do you yourself, due to your qualified understanding, want to ask? Or will you trust the author of the article? There are 150 million of them. And everyone has their own understanding. Or you can trust those who are chosen by the majority. In our case, these are those who appoint the Head of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation - the State Duma.

[Oleg1]

Article 671. This is the MOST where the ancestors who transmitted to us ideals and faith in God, the protection of historical truth and children as the most important priority of the spiritual policy of the state.

The cocktail is funny and creepy at the same time. It’s impressive with just such a hodgepodge, unrelated to anything.
see what exactly the author doesn’t like:
""21. The Russian Federation ensures the protection of its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions are not allowed." ;"
How can one not dismember Russia and call for this? The true patriot Skomorokhov absolutely does not like this!
3. The Russian Federation honors the memory of the defenders of the Fatherland, ensures the protection of historical truth. Diminishing the significance of the feat of the people in the defense of the Fatherland is not allowed.
How can one not lie and beg for the heroism of the defenders of the Fatherland? The true patriot Skomorokhov absolutely does not like this!
In general, this is enough to evaluate WHO the author of the article is...
Why, when reading his materials, do I feel like I’ve plunged into a cesspool like Novaya Gazeta? Surely VO Khodorkovsky is not sponsoring?
PS and yes, everyone makes their own moral assessment... but I would never shake hands with someone like the author, I despise such people.

[flicker]

In general, this is enough to evaluate WHO the author of the article is...

Yes, one headline is enough: “Who is the new Constitution for?”
For him, amendments to the Constitution or the new Constitution make no difference.
Well, then it started: pile 1, pile 2, cocktails, hodgepodge, etc.

So, when reading his materials, I feel like I’ve plunged into a cesspool like Novaya Gazeta?

Yes, many people notice that Russophobia is a trend here, before it was somehow disguised, but now it’s almost open.

[andrew42]

All this frantic pandemonium with the Constitution is a cheap booth for onlookers in the city square. Indeed, there is nothing in the changes that would at least stop the extinction of the Russian people. But no, there is one thing, now we will die out “with God”.

[Oleg1]

Quote: andrew42

All this frantic pandemonium with the Constitution is a cheap booth for onlookers in the city square. Indeed, there is nothing in the changes that would at least stop the extinction of the Russian people. But no, there is one thing, now we will die out “with God”.

I just want to ask, should Putin personally come and make you a child?
But ...

[andrew42]

But as for the “cherry on the cake,” this is just about the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. More precisely, about the fact that essentially NOTHING changes there. But the lack of control of the Central Bank by the Russian state does not change. Consequently, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation remains under the control of external and secret “players”. Well, why do I personally need such a Constitution, with such rubbish inside? Both the old and the new edition of this cornerstone norm are for the citizen a hanging sword of financial death, for which neither the President, nor the Government, nor the supposedly elected State Duma is responsible. I am for those amendments to the Constitution that will really work for the well-being of my fellow citizens. And this “package” is definitely in the firebox.

[Oleg1]

Quote: andrew42

But as for the “cherry on the cake,” this is just about the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. More precisely, about the fact that essentially NOTHING changes there. But the lack of control of the Central Bank by the Russian state does not change. Consequently, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation remains under the control of external and secret “players”. Well, why do I personally need such a Constitution, with such rubbish inside? Both the old and the new edition of this cornerstone norm are for the citizen a hanging sword of financial death, for which neither the President, nor the Government, nor the supposedly elected State Duma is responsible. I am for those amendments to the Constitution that will really work for the well-being of my fellow citizens. And this “package” is definitely in the firebox.

Finally, read the federal constitutional laws, in particular on the Central Bank, and don’t invent all sorts of nonsense about the Central Bank’s lack of control by the state, you’ll get heartburn from these old fakes!

[ELEZKIY]

Yes, everything is fine. What Moscow fought for in 1991 is what all of Russia ran into. Tying the country's economy to foreign currency is high treason. At least don’t turn on the news. Every time they inform in detail how the primaries are going in America. like it's important to us. (51st state?). The author is right that the amendments are, in principle, petty. The country needs a new CONSTITUTION, not amendments. and open rather than secret voting. You can't do good things by secret ballot.

[Oleg1]

Quote: ELEZKIY

Yes, everything is fine. What Moscow fought for in 1991 is what all of Russia ran into. Tying the country's economy to foreign currency is high treason. At least don’t turn on the news. Every time they inform in detail how the primaries are going in America. like it's important to us. (51st state?). The author is right that the amendments are, in principle, petty. The country needs a new CONSTITUTION, not amendments. and open rather than secret voting. You can't do good things by secret ballot.

Yes Yes! I am especially outraged by the ban on giving away Russian lands and spoiling the memory of those who died in wars! And I would have been in trouble for the mandatory indexation of pensions!
It’s disgusting, as if from the liberal spirit....
PS Russian? Are you teaching us fools from Nenka?

[faterdom]

Quote: Oleg1

And I would have been in trouble for the mandatory indexation of pensions!

Open your eyes.
The current Constitution prohibits the adoption of legislative acts that worsen the situation of people, however, every year a budget is adopted (the Law, after all), where pensions are not indexed, or are indexed below inflation... That is, every year the Constitution in its current version is REGULARLY by our legislators is violated, and our Guarantor of the Constitution approves this violation. The Constitutional Court, which is on guard, does not see anything wrong in this situation (didn’t it?).
And now a question for experts: won’t the same personalities, having an amendment on indexation, continue to act in the same way as usual, and if not, then why?

[Oleg1]

I have them off. The Constitution did not oblige regular indexing, but now it will oblige. Do you think this is bad? Well, if you are broadcasting from Nenki, then everything is bad for you in the new edition. Apparently the legislative ban on the transfer of the Russian land of Crimea is especially offensive.... I sympathize...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: faterdom

The current Constitution prohibits the adoption of legislation that worsens the situation of people

Sorry, this is nonsense.

Quote: faterdom

Not a lawyer (sorry, sinful...)

But this is just obvious

[faterdom]

Quote: Oleg1

The Constitution did not oblige regular indexation

She had not yet obliged him not to urinate in his pants, which the First President sometimes used without hesitation. Question: should this amendment be included in the Constitution?
Or are there a priori some things that rulers should already observe, or do they not deserve to rule? They simply sometimes forget the main thing: all power comes from God (from the people), and if they do not fulfill their mission with dignity, then both will turn away from them. And neither the junta nor the national battalions will save us.