Cult of personality? Let's believe in deeds

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Cult of personality? Let's believe in deeds

Tired of ... How many decades have we been told that we are morons, stupefied by propaganda and therefore unable to see all the harm, all the vileness and terrible cruelty of power in the USSR and, accordingly, in Russia. We are told that everything that happened and is happening in our country is directed exclusively against us.

And we are not laying our lives for Russia, but for some hidden enemies of the state in the Central Committee of the party or the government of the USSR, and today for some oligarchs and the same enemies in the government and parliament of the Russian Federation. In discussions on any issue that interests society today, you will definitely find just such an opinion. "Our soldiers are dying for their interests ..." Next, you can write the name of any oligarch or official of the highest level.



I wonder why my and your grandfathers were so unlucky. They were not lucky to live under the cult of personality of Stalin.

Ancestors were lucky. They were dying for faith, the king and the Fatherland. Even earlier - for Russia and his prince. But the grandfathers, who went on the attack for their homeland, for Stalin, even without realizing it, lived under the cult of personality. And they died for the tyrant, obscurantist, the killer of the innocent and, what is now still in trend, Stalin.

You do not have a question about the sanity of your grandfather or great-grandfather who did not understand this? Do you have any questions for Nikolai Ostrovsky? To the builders of Komsomolsk-on-Amur? But to the thousands of heroes who deliberately went to death during the war, does not arise? To the builders of BAM? To the Vorkuta miners? To the thousands of our very grandfathers and grandmothers who threw a well-fed life in cities and rushed off somewhere to Siberia, the Far East, the Arctic Circle to build, mine, pull oil and gas pipelines? ..

The cult of personality as a refuge of mediocrity


For some reason, we forgot about one strangeness associated with the emergence of a personality cult. I about the fact that this concept appeared not somewhere in liberal minds or in Western democratic brains. They talked about the personality cult ... the communists. After the death of Stalin. And those who actively participated in events that really do not honor the leadership of our country in the 30s of the last century started talking about this.

To argue about why the cult of personality appeared is stupid. Both supporters and opponents of the cult cite hundreds of facts that really were, but which can be interpreted in different ways. It’s enough to just pop something out and forget something. For example, opponents of Stalin speak of the beginning of the formation of a cult in the 20s. And they give a historically existing fact - Stalingrad.

Indeed, in the mid-20s, Tsaritsyn was renamed Stalingrad. I even “throw logs into the fire” of supporters. Then Yuzovka was renamed Stalin (today Donetsk), Dyushambe became Stalinabad (now Dushanbe). A little later they built Stalin (now Novokuznetsk) and Stalinogorsk (now Novomoskovsk). There was even Staliniri (now Tskhinval). Moreover, even Moscow could be renamed Stalinodar. At least, there were such conversations in 1937-39 ...

There - Kaliningrad, Ulyanovsk, Leninsk. Although there were also outstanding pilots, scientists, workers. As a result: Chkalovsk, Stakhanov, Michurinsk ... Renaming is more likely a tradition of those times. cities were named after people always and everywhere. Washington, Constanta, Hamilton, Friedrichsaw, Sherbrooke ...

It sometimes seems to me that after the departure of a truly outstanding personality, a vacuum arises in the minds of people. There is no man, but his work lives on. And in this vacuum and mediocrity rush, performers who also want to become great. But for this it is simply necessary to slander the one who was ahead.

Why are there so many great people in the history of Russia


Studying history of our state, one is struck by one interesting fact. You are amazed at the number of great statesmen who were either born here or became great after moving here. It is almost impossible today to name the greatest of many persons.

Alas, in my opinion, this is not a “special fate of Russia”, not a “providence”, not even a “divine destiny”, no matter how pleasant it is for us to talk about it. Everything is much simpler and more complicated.

We have always been a peasant country. A country based on peasant communities. There were few citizens, and the cities were located quite compactly. In most areas of the city did not go to any comparison with European. These were rather large villages. Hence the features of territorial management.

Hence the emergence of "statesmen" of different caliber, who had nothing to do with the state. All these Emelyan Pugachevs, Stenka Raziny and the like. Does anyone doubt the outstanding organizational skills of such people? By the way, on Red Square there is a monument to one of these nuggets. Remember Kuzma Minin next to Prince Pozharsky?

Russian society, based on a peasant community, did not scatter into its own huts when danger appeared. It independently promoted leaders whom it followed and trusted. Remember the militia of Minin and Pozharsky, remember the partisans of the Patriotic War of 1812, remember the partisans of the Great Patriotic War. How many leaders appeared then! How many personalities appeared from the people.

Again the cult of personality


We are again frightened by the cult of personality. Again, the voices of those who predict great blood are heard. Again remember the Gulag and political prisoners. Sentry, political opponents will soon be killed! .. Soon we will see an “invasion of the great and terrible sculptures” in our squares, as it was under Stalin ...

Although - the Yeltsin Center in Yekaterinburg is already standing. A religious building? Quite. Moreover, they are planning to build a second one - in the capital.

Library named after Yeltsin. Gaidar forums ... Cult? Well, if it is believed that there was a Stalinist cult, then why then these manifestations are not called such.

Somehow imperceptibly for the majority of our concepts have changed. The monument on the square is no longer perceived as a tribute to the memory of a great man, as a tribute to respect, if you will. We are ready to mix the memory of our ancestors with the earth for the sake of some kind of “historical truth”. We reason, sitting in a soft chair in the 21st century, about the military operations of the Second World War. We blame the commanders for the fact that "the losses were disproportionate to the outcome of the operation."

Look at what they reproach us today. We are reproached for the fact that we ourselves, or rather, our generals and marshals, threw people into a bloody meat grinder. And it was necessary as in Europe. Protect people and cities. In short, I had to give up. I once spoke with a veteran who commanded an anti-tank platoon near the village of Kostrovo. By the way, it was there that he later, after the war, came to live.

Yes, they brought them, militias, almost unarmed, to New Jerusalem. Yes, the Germans crushed the militia for two hours tanks. Those who remained came out of the battle armed and evil. Two hours later another train arrived from Moscow. Ghibli echelons! But the Germans were not allowed on. Even this New Jerusalem was surrendered only for a short time.

And this veteran became the commander of the anti-tank platoon only because he found an abandoned magpie with his friends in the forest and stood in the way of the tank column. Eight militias with a 45 mm gun against the tank column ... And he became the platoon commander only because the commander of the rifle regiment saw this gun. In the absence of others, one gun became a platoon ...

Do you think this veteran blamed the authorities for something? No, he understood that his comrades defended Moscow. Let them briefly, but at the cost of their lives restrained the German offensive. And the commanders did not blame the death of comrades. Because the same regiment itself went with a rifle to attack in a chain. Next to ordinary soldiers. Yes, and the generals then went on the attack. Even the marshals.

It’s time to stop talking about the personality cult of anyone. It's not about a cult, but about a tribute to the individual. Why do not we remember the thousands who died during the construction of St. Petersburg? We are talking about Peter the Great. Why aren't we talking about tens of thousands of dead fighters of Suvorov or Kutuzov? We are talking about great commanders.

And the last one. Now it’s very fashionable to talk about the victory of the people. The commander is nothing, the soldier is everything. Anyone who has ever participated in a real battle will tell you about the role of commander. Sorry for such a comparison, but we did not come up with a saying about a lion headed by a flock of sheep, which can disperse a squad of lions headed by a ram. Snipers knock out primarily commanders and signalmen.

To paraphrase the saying already mentioned, I’ll say: we won because lions commanded the squads of lions. Every warrior, no matter what position he held in the war, was a lion. I recently accidentally saw a new feature film called "Corporal". Our Mosfilm film about the smallest soldier of the Great Patriotic War.

For me it was a revelation. The smallest soldier, or rather, corporal, at the end of the war, awarded in 1943 the medal "For Military Merit" was ... born in 1936. And he fought from the very beginning of the war! Hero? Definitely. He is just one of many.

It is impossible to divide soldiers into those who have done more to win or less.

Probably enough to already come up with slops, which then spill over to the dead. We, unlike our grandfathers, can already see the results. What happened to the country during the reign of a leader. Stalin? Which country did he accept and which country did he transmit? Khrushchev? Which country did he receive and which was taken from him? And so for each leader, including the current president.

You just need to look around and see or not see. That's all.
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  1. +43
    23 March 2020 10: 40
    "... for this it is simply necessary to slander the one who was in front."

    A trifle always hates giants.
    1. +27
      23 March 2020 10: 41
      Stalin is real . Cult personalitywhat he is, on business in history ...
      1. +44
        23 March 2020 11: 03
        There was a great country, I know that for sure. And now? Is there a personality cult (who is the season), only the country is completely different in terms of economic and social development from the USSR.
        1. -87
          23 March 2020 11: 14
          Who is this author? Caressed by this power, which is now in power, most likely. Yes, in the West they tried to protect people, but what did they do wrong? And the United States did not break up like the Soviet Union maybe because they did not have total lies and hypocrisy, and there was no personality cult there, but there were people who simply respected and still respect, such as Roosevelt, Thatcher or Churchill.
          1. +63
            23 March 2020 12: 10
            Atilla
            And the United States did not fall apart as the USSR can because they did not have total lies and hypocrisy
            Is it in the US that there is no lies and hypocrisy? Aw, sick of you from which planet fell to us? Yes, the United States is woven from lies and hypocrisy, this is the essence of this state. They even have smiles artificially hypocritical, behind them there is no real feeling.
            Thatcher or Churchill
            And these two stuffed with what side to the United States?
            but there were people who were simply respected and respected so far
            And who told you that Stalin is not respected?


            Find a photo of Roosevelt’s grave drowning in flowers like the grave of Stalin? You can’t be puffed up, here it is:
            As they say find the 10 differences ...
            1. +35
              23 March 2020 12: 16
              From this angle, one can clearly see WHOM of the leaders and HOW they love!
              1. +22
                23 March 2020 17: 04
                Stalin created a GREAT country - a historical dream for ordinary people about a just life!
                And Yeltsin created himself in power in the form of the "Tsar Boris" of the Russian Federation controlled by the liberals - on one of the fragments of the GREAT Soviet state.

                Ordinary people over time correctly evaluate the personality cults of Stalin and the same Yeltsin. Namely.

                On the night of August 24, 2012, on the anniversary of the defeat of the State Emergency Committee, a monument to Boris Yeltsin made of Chinese marble was poured blue in Yekaterinburg, which was first discovered early in the morning by bystanders. Judging by the scale, height and density of the "blueing" (the memorial is a 10-meter white marble stele with a bas-relief of Yeltsin at full height) there was a "group of people" acting - one person would hardly have done it. Also, according to the local police, marble letters were broken, from which the inscription "Yeltsin" was made on the monument.


                Monument to Yeltsin "turned blue" on the anniversary of the State Emergency Committee. 24 Aug 2012 r.
                1. +3
                  25 March 2020 19: 37
                  I heard the story that somehow some craftsmen coated this monument to Yeltsin with bear fat and the next day all the dogs in the district came running barking at the monument, symbolically. Now the guard seems to have been assigned, such is the popular "love."
            2. +14
              23 March 2020 13: 19
              For my own sake, for comparison, I can also throw a couple of photos from the graves of Churchill and Thatcher (about Thatcher I’m not at all sure that this is a grave, but the search engine does not give out other photos).


              Something is not observed "great love" and honor from grateful descendants. At least their graves cannot be compared with Stalin. Not a single search engine gives out the graves of Roosevelt, Churchill and Thatcher, drowning in flowers. At the same time, it is difficult to find a photo of Stalin's grave without flowers.
              1. +7
                23 March 2020 15: 34
                In fairness, they hardly have even one grave drowning in flowers. And not because the rulers were bad. But because the mentality is trite different. It is not customary to fill up monuments with flowers. Plus, on top of everything else, they have one prime minister little different from the other, just like the president in the United States. Political systems function properly under any ruler. The standard of living under any ruler remains quite high. Therefore, the situation in the country is not so dependent on a specific person, as it happens all the way with us. And therefore, the population of Great Britain and the USA do not actively compare all past rulers with current ones, and in general sometimes do not remember most of them.
                1. 0
                  26 March 2020 11: 17
                  .... The standard of living under any ruler remains quite high ....
                  Fattened at someone else's expense.
                  Weather, disease, the Yankees all the fun is just beginning. Our 90s seem to them a children's holiday laughing
              2. +9
                23 March 2020 19: 11
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                Not a single search engine gives the graves of Roosevelt, Churchill and Thatcher, drowning in flowers

                Regarding Thatcher. Remember how the English walked and had fun when they found out about her death. Even a song was sung about this - "Ding-dong, the witch is dead."
                1. Wow
                  -19
                  23 March 2020 21: 00
                  Someone is sad, someone is crying and someone is having fun. How many English have fun? Give me the numbers?
          2. +38
            23 March 2020 12: 21
            Atilla
            ..in the west they tried to protect people ....

            Have you composed this fairy tale yourself? Or was there enough mind just to retell someone else's delirium?
            Have you heard about the Great Depression in the United States? So admire how "people were protected" there.

            In the agricultural states alone, 8 million died of starvation.
            And this despite the fact that in the USA there was no post-revolutionary and post-war devastation.
            1. -22
              23 March 2020 13: 25
              . In the agricultural states alone, 8 million died of starvation.

              Many times I saw different figures on this subject, but I never saw confirmations.
              Can you give a link to a decent source?
              It’s just that in the West they often publish mountains of all kinds of yellow garbage with pseudo-sensations, so I’d like to understand where the number of millions of starvation victims came from ....
              1. +7
                24 March 2020 17: 10
                Quote: Avior
                Can you give a link to a decent source?

                Borisov Boris - The American Famine
                https://royallib.com/book/borisov_boris/golodomor_poamerikanski.html
                The official data of the US statistical office, which Borisov used. In the USA, the actual presence of citizens was found out only at the time of the census, and they were carried out in 1930, 1940 and 1950.
                How it was done by Steinbeck The Bunches of Wrath and Lange (Dorothea).
                http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/ft3f59n5wt/dsc/?dsc.position=15001#omca_724
                Here, a selection of jobs in the employment service in the early days stood 10million. Benefit for 4 months at 1-2 dollars per day. What does she not write to people further.
                1. -2
                  24 March 2020 20: 28
                  looked honestly
                  according to the first link, some conspiracy theological theory without a single reference to the sources and the slightest hint of scientific presentation, so there’s nothing to discuss there, with such rubbish the Internet is littered with all known cases in history.
                  I looked at discussions on the Internet, they write and give data that the author manipulated statistics, and there is no confirmation of his theory.
                  https://faf2000.livejournal.com/12938.html
                  https://nazar-rus.livejournal.com/42121.html
                  Another story from the series "100 million shot in the Gulag"
                  Who is this author - did not find anywhere mention of his scientific work.
                  the second link is not a word about the death of 8 million people.
                  not to mention the fact that in the post above 8 million people died only in the agricultural States, this Borisov first has 7 million in all the States, but then in that article the figure drops to five.
                  Why the United States has not been blamed for the mass deaths of people according to these long-open data, the author modestly does not explain.
                  Steinbeck The Grapes of Wrath is an art book
                  I would still like to see a serious source, if any, and not just another Internet trash.
                  hi
                  1. +2
                    25 March 2020 20: 20
                    Interesting girls are dancing.
                    20 million in the Gulag, 100 million in the Gulag calculated by the method - the truth.
                    1 million raped German women determined stat.by - true.
                    "Gulag Archipelago" art book is true.
                    And if, according to this technique, the losses of Europeans or the United States are considered, then no, this is not right.
                    1. 0
                      25 March 2020 20: 26
                      if 100 million people shot in the Gulag are true for you, then add another 50 starvation deaths to the USA - your views on the world will not change much from this
                      1. +2
                        25 March 2020 20: 28
                        if for you 100 million shot in the gulag is true

                        No, it's not true.
                      2. 0
                        25 March 2020 21: 38
                        then, probably, it makes sense not to change the criteria for evaluating information, depending on the desire to believe in some hi
                      3. 0
                        27 March 2020 13: 39
                        Then there can be 8 Indians from smallpox in blankets and 7 people due to starvation ... buffaloes were destroyed by white people.
                    2. 0
                      26 March 2020 11: 21
                      Comrade writhing from the fact that hail on the hill is covered by clouds ....
                  2. +1
                    25 March 2020 23: 38
                    You asked, as if you were interested, I replied to the article in response to your links:
                    About the red and white "confrontation"
                    The Holodomor is American. Continuation of official statistics.
                    The second on the topic, the author explains the lack of population growth by migration of 10 thousand per year.
                    Then we did not have any hunger, because the population, unlike the USA, was growing.
                    You won’t get American loss figures, it’s unpatriotic, but the Lange link (according to your official person is Internet trash) for a person working in US government agencies. Among other things, that 8 million registered in the first days receiving 1-2 dollars a day for 4 months , then they themselves. The question is not even how to live on it, but what happened to them next.
                    Steinbeck the Grapes brought an eyewitness to how they fought hunger in the United States. Do you find that Stalin also destroyed food? (Well, probably only infected grain).
                    I don’t know about 8 in the village, about 100 fiction.
            2. Wow
              -10
              23 March 2020 21: 21
              Quote: maidan.izrailovich
              In the agricultural states alone, 8 million died of starvation.

              Have you come up with? or did the Great Pooh suggest? Studies have shown that lying adversely affects relationships, and even harms health.
          3. +21
            23 March 2020 12: 45
            respect is not so simple. the states did not have a destroyed country. states did not fight for survival as the USSR. It’s stupid not to see the difference in this. you can’t save if you need to win. you cannot win saving every life. these things cannot be interconnected. under conditions of total war, you physically cannot win if you pay attention to losses, no matter how cruel it sounds. crossing any water barrier is always a huge sacrifice. an offensive is always a huge loss. do you think it’s just ascribed to have a three-fold advantage on the offensive? a strategic offensive is impossible without constant supply of personnel and weapons, for losses grow in proportion to the assigned tasks. Etc., there is no need to surrender a country like France. but to win and survive is a feat.
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          5. +2
            26 March 2020 18: 17
            I have a house nearby older than the United States. Compare with Luxembourg, pah. Endless wars, revolutions, upheavals. And who is there? Mexico with Canada?
          6. 0
            28 March 2020 12: 22
            Where did you come down to write such nonsense can a person only appear on a white light.
        2. -20
          24 March 2020 12: 55
          Quote: DMB 75
          and social development in the USSR.

          What kind of social development are you sculpting about? This is not even funny. Life expectancy is almost half that, the life of the majority of the population in a communal apartment, the inability to buy food from the majority of the population is this social development? And not only under Stalin. Novocherkassk remind? The only normal period is the end of the 60s and the beginning of the 80s, and then with a total lack of everything and everything.
      2. +35
        23 March 2020 11: 34
        Quote: Insurgent
        Stalin is real. The cult of personality, as it is, for affairs in history.

        I agree completely. But the same cult can be attributed to Napoleon and other Great people. And the cult was most real among mediocrities, such as Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, this is a cult, and I.V. Stalin is the Greatest Leader of the country.
        1. -37
          23 March 2020 14: 20
          Quote: tihonmarine
          I.V. Stalin is the Greatest Leader of the country.

          Do not voice what his greatness is? among the victims?
          1. +12
            23 March 2020 15: 00
            Quote: ser56
            Do not voice what his greatness is?

            A very respected person, an Israeli citizen, Jacob Kedmi, will better answer this.
            1. -26
              23 March 2020 15: 27
              Quote: tihonmarine
              A very respected person, an Israeli citizen, Jacob Kedmi, will better answer this.

              Yes, I’m not very interested in the opinion of foreigners about the history of our country ... request
              This is for the Communists and their supporters, gurus over the hill - then K. Marx, then Kedmi ... wink
              1. +2
                24 March 2020 17: 12
                Quote: ser56
                among the victims?

                Zemsky estimated throughout the USSR at 2,5% of the population of the USSR.
                1. -7
                  24 March 2020 18: 19
                  Quote: naidas
                  Zemsky estimated throughout the USSR at 2,5% of the population of the USSR.

                  Is it not enough? However, he did not consider the exiled fists to be victims ... request Do you agree with that?
                  1. +5
                    24 March 2020 20: 17
                    Quote: ser56
                    Is it not enough? Moreover, he did not consider the exiled fists to be victims ... Do you agree with this?

                    Firstly, exiled fists are not shot fists.
                    Secondly, are they victims? - They are bloodsuckers, which fellow villagers got rid of.
                    1. -7
                      25 March 2020 11: 31
                      Quote: Alexander Green
                      Secondly, are they victims? - They are bloodsuckers, which fellow villagers got rid of.

                      Fists bloodsuckers? So maybe the current farmers bloodsuckers? let's shoot them too. Sheer nonsense.
                      1. +5
                        25 March 2020 11: 39
                        So maybe the current farmers bloodsuckers?

                        If their land is cultivated by debtors "ispolu" (half) of the harvest, while they will be prohibited from giving money in growth, they will be bloodsuckers wink
                        And if they start beating and killing collective farm activists, they will also burn collective farm buildings and go to jail laughing
                      2. -5
                        25 March 2020 12: 11
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        If debtors cultivate their land "ispolu" (half) of the harvest, while giving money in growth will be prohibited, they will be bloodsuckers

                        you don’t know the history of the USSR, after 1921 the kulaks usually employed seasonal workers, no more! They paid a special tax for this and did not have voting rights ...
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        And if they start beating and killing collective farm activists, they will also burn collective farm buildings and go to jail

                        you read a Short Course .... request in 1927 the state decided to rob the wealthy peasants - hence the Bread crisis, and then collectivization ...
                      3. +4
                        25 March 2020 12: 54
                        you do not know the history of the USSR

                        A source?
                        You have read the Short Course ...

                        Summary of the NKVD.
                      4. -5
                        25 March 2020 13: 18
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        A source?

                        reliable
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        Summary of the NKVD.

                        laid out here archival - horror ... request
                      5. +2
                        25 March 2020 15: 55
                        reliable

                        Do you understand that this is not serious?
                      6. -3
                        25 March 2020 17: 32
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        Do you understand that this is not serious?

                        Are you talking about scans of secret documents of the NKVD? and then what is serious? Newspaper propaganda? bully
                      7. +3
                        25 March 2020 17: 58
                        you about scans

                        OGPU report notes have not been secret for a long time.
                        I understand correctly, you can’t answer where did you get the information?
                      8. -4
                        25 March 2020 18: 39
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        I understand correctly, you can’t answer where did you get the information?

                        are you about fists? hi
                      9. -4
                        26 March 2020 16: 03
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        If debtors cultivate their land

                        The peons worked for them, and then not for everyone. Fists were not the same either.
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        I will "consume" (half) the harvest,

                        What do you mean?
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        while giving money to growth will be banned

                        Giving money to growth is normal.
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        And if they start beating and killing collective farm activists

                        lol Smiled so smiled. But what kind of collective farm activists?
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        burn collective farm buildings also go to prison

                        The Soviet government takes the land from them, and then they should have looked at it calmly?)
                        All the fault of the kulaks before you and people like you is that they were against the Bolsheviks, that’s all. And all the other tales about bloodsuckers are all attempts to justify those rivers of blood of peasants that spilled thanks to the Bolsheviks.
                      10. -7
                        25 March 2020 12: 12
                        Quote: CSKA
                        Sheer nonsense.

                        no, this is politics ... the hornbeam has been looted ... only modern red-bellied people have little knowledge of history, after the robbery there will be hunger, and then they will starve for a long time ... request
                      11. +3
                        25 March 2020 21: 51
                        Quote: ser56
                        only modern red-bellied people do not know history well

                        Do you know how Stolypin spoke about fists in 1904? in a report to Nicholas 2? Share a connoisseur of history.
                        The red-bellied ones in 1926 had an average age of 44 g., And in the Republic of Ingushetia in 1913, 30 years.
                      12. -2
                        26 March 2020 11: 33
                        Quote: naidas
                        Do you know how

                        if you want to say something - say ... bully
                        Quote: naidas
                        The red-bellied ones in 1926 had an average age of 44 g., And in the Republic of Ingushetia in 1913, 30 years.

                        Do you believe Soviet statistics? bully If it was no secret in 1926, could you go to a demonstration against the CPSU (b)? Or organize an economic strike by workers for their rights? Or were there other political / economic rights? There was a cruel and bloody dictatorship in the country ... request
                      13. 0
                        28 March 2020 14: 54
                        Quote: ser56
                        if you want to say something - say

                        That's it, and then an expert on the history of parallel worlds has been discovered. Study the history of the Earth for a start.
                        In 1904, Peter Stolypin wrote to Nicholas 2: “At present, a stronger peasant is usually turning into a kulak, an exploiter of his fellow students, in the figurative expression - a world-eater.
                        Quote: ser56
                        Do you believe Soviet statistics?

                        Here again, there is no knowledge of the history of Russia. No one can understand how the statistics were conducted in the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR since 1921. One can argue about the methodology, but since 1921 statistics can be talked about as statistics, not as a sample.
                      14. -1
                        28 March 2020 17: 06
                        Quote: naidas
                        that's it ,

                        if not a secret - what are you talking about? Do you think there are people who know everything? bully
                        Quote: naidas
                        and then an expert on the history of parallel worlds was discovered. Study the history of the Earth for a start.

                        that you are not a well-mannered person - I already understood ... hi
                        Quote: naidas
                        in figurative expression - a world-eater.

                        So what? this is a normal law of development in the economy ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        Here again, no knowledge of the history of Russia.

                        do you understand yourself bully
                        Quote: naidas
                        Not a clue how statistics were conducted in RI

                        only to you ... I recommend the statistics book 1913 - it is on the Web ....
                        Quote: naidas
                        but since 1921 statistics can be spoken of as statistics, not as a sample.

                        are mistaken ... for example, do you know how grain yields were estimated in the 20-30s? hi
                      15. 0
                        30 March 2020 21: 22
                        Quote: ser56
                        if not a secret - what are you talking about? Do you think there are people who know everything?

                        about history, a man claims that a connoisseur in the middle
                        Quote: ser56
                        only modern red-bellied people have little knowledge of history, after the robbery there will be hunger, and then they will starve for a long time.

                        But in fact he doesn’t even know the basics, he’s talking nonsense,
                        Quote: ser56
                        that you are not a well-mannered person - I already understood.
                        Of course this is only for the cultural, who also know the story.
                        Quote: ser56
                        only to you ... I recommend the statistics book 1913 - it is on the Web ..
                        I wrote about these statistics, I recommend from this collection XIV. EDUCATION. EDUCATION. THE SCIENCE. PRINTING
                        1.1 1. Primary, secondary general and special education

                        under the first table (A.P. Korelin) -Korelin Avenir Pavlovich (09.11.1933/08.12.2017/XNUMX XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX),
                        Well, connoisseur: as in the 1913 collection of koment of a man who gave birth in 1933.
                        And here’s the opinion of the witnesses: according to M. Superansky, “Elementary public school in the Simbirsk province” ... In general, there were very few literate peasants. Sometimes in the whole village there was not one literate. Even among specific peasants, the posts of elders and elders were often filled by illiterate people. The school did not instill a love of books, which were difficult for peasants to get, and therefore those who had passed the school soon forgot their literacy with difficulty and to a lesser extent ...

                        The average salary of workers was taken from the Kiev exhibition, and there, of course, the participants were workers, but not at the machine tool.
                        In the USSR, for wrong statistics, you can also grab a bullet-People’s Commissariat, and they were engaged in collecting data as complete as possible, and not how they took the region in the Republic of Ingushetia, which means that in their own country.
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                        31 March 2020 17: 34
                        Quote: naidas
                        this is only for cultural ones who also know history.

                        I'm too lazy to understand your complexes - go to a psychoanalyst ... request
                        Quote: naidas
                        there were very few peasants

                        my grandfather, 1900gr - was literate and constantly read .... from peasants from Altai .... people are different and now ... request
                        Quote: naidas
                        In the USSR, for wrong statistics, you can also grab a bullet-People’s Commissariat, and they were engaged in collecting data as complete as possible, and not how they took the region in the Republic of Ingushetia, which means that in their own country.

                        1) you do not know well Soviet statistics - you got a bullet for data that the authorities didn’t like ... request
                        2) To find out the taste of the soup, you don’t have to eat it all ... hi however it is difficult for you ... feel
                      17. 0
                        31 March 2020 18: 16
                        Quote: ser56
                        I am too lazy to understand your complexes - go to a psychoanalyst.

                        And you are impudent, to you some free lectures on history and for free, but in response to your culture, this is it.
                        Quote: ser56
                        1) you do not know well Soviet statistics - you received a bullet for data that the authorities did not like.

                        This is generally nonsense and again ignorance - for the fact that they shot the People's Commissariat - just for the opposite said by you.
                      18. 0
                        April 1 2020 16: 30
                        Quote: naidas
                        give you some free lectures on history

                        stupid things ... request
                        Quote: naidas
                        for which they shot the People’s Commissariat-just for the opposite said by you.

                        you are sorry because of both the lack of knowledge and the ability to comprehend the facts ... then comes the flood - write to the PM request
                      19. 0
                        31 March 2020 09: 57
                        Quote: ser56
                        no, this is politics ... the hornbeam is looted.

                        I now believe that to rob the loot is also a thief. And it’s only for them that the kulaks or the nobleman’s immediately looted. And of course, the bourgeoisie also robbed them. They still have the thinking of the beginning of the 20th century.
                      20. -1
                        31 March 2020 17: 36
                        Quote: CSKA
                        what to rob the loot is also to be a thief

                        I agree - that was exactly what Stalin was - he was engaged in robberies and racket ... request
                      21. +7
                        25 March 2020 14: 30
                        Quote: CSKA
                        bloodsuckers

                        Funny, but, in fact, the fists were bloodsuckers. Their modern counterparts are microcredit organizations.
                      22. 0
                        31 March 2020 10: 04
                        Quote: DeusExMachina
                        Funny, but, in fact, the fists were bloodsuckers. Their modern counterparts are microcredit organizations.

                        Why are you straight fists engaged only in usury. A small percentage, and then you know what percentage they gave. And to engage in usury is not illegal. First of all, the bulk were peasants, speaking modern language by farmers. And of course they need hired workers to cultivate their land. As well as around the world they are hired. The peasant himself, who has expanded his production, is physically incapable of alone managing his farm.
                        I repeat once again. All the fault of the kulaks in front of people like you is about what they went against the Bolsheviks.
                      23. 0
                        31 March 2020 10: 33
                        Quote: CSKA
                        Quote: DeusExMachina
                        Funny, but, in fact, the fists were bloodsuckers. Their modern counterparts are microcredit organizations.

                        Why are you straight fists engaged only in usury. A small percentage, and then you know what percentage they gave. And to engage in usury is not illegal. First of all, the bulk were peasants, speaking modern language by farmers. And of course they need hired workers to cultivate their land. As well as around the world they are hired. The peasant himself, who has expanded his production, is physically incapable of alone managing his farm.
                        I repeat once again. All the fault of the kulaks in front of people like you is about what they went against the Bolsheviks.

                        Lying. They were engaged in usury combined with the use of hired labor. And the percentage there was not "small". A quarter of the harvest is the minimum. Basically - about a third. In the rest, half.
                        Thus, the kulaks themselves, by their actions, have earned the nationwide "Love". Plus, many of them ended up engaging in subversive activities after the establishment of Soviet power. You can justify them as much as you like, justify their activities, tell tales about "honest and efficient farmers", but this cannot be hidden.
                      24. +4
                        25 March 2020 15: 07
                        Quote: CSKA
                        Fists bloodsuckers? So maybe the current farmers bloodsuckers? let's shoot them too. Sheer nonsense.

                        And the current ones, which employ wage labor even worse, many of them even have real slaves.
                      25. -1
                        31 March 2020 12: 31
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        And current ones that use wage labor are even worse

                        What are you? And what? What give people a job?
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        many of them even have real slaves.

                        I don’t even see the point of commenting on this nonsense.
                      26. 0
                        31 March 2020 13: 06
                        Quote: CSKA
                        What are you? And what? What give people a job?

                        Well, of course, they all consider themselves benefactors, and are offended when you call them exploiters.
                        And slaves today are the most real. Pheromers, entrepreneurs pick up homeless people, visitors, take away their documents and force them to work, they beat, they don’t pay money. About such cases, even on TV repeatedly showed stories.
                      27. +3
                        25 March 2020 21: 35
                        Quote: CSKA
                        Fists bloodsuckers?

                        Such is the opinion of both the Bolsheviks and Stolypin: In 1904, Peter Stolypin wrote to Nicholas 2: “At present, a stronger peasant is usually turning into a fist, an exploiter of his comrades-in-arms, in a figurative expression - a world-eater.
                    2. -5
                      25 March 2020 12: 07
                      Quote: Alexander Green
                      Firstly, exiled fists are not shot fists.

                      those. all those imprisoned in the Gulag, but not shot, are not victims ... amusing ...
                      Quote: Alexander Green
                      Secondly, are they victims? - They are bloodsuckers, which fellow villagers got rid of.

                      Now it’s clear - another red-bellied humane ... bully re-read Sholokhov or the article of the ITT Dizziness from success ...
                      1. +6
                        25 March 2020 15: 11
                        Quote: ser56
                        those. all those who were imprisoned in the Gulag, but not shot, are not victims ... amusing ..

                        They put him in a gulag for crimes.
                      2. +4
                        25 March 2020 15: 53
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        Quote: ser56
                        those. all those who were imprisoned in the Gulag, but not shot, are not victims ... amusing ..

                        They put him in a gulag for crimes.

                        And the citizen generally has an alien perception ... He believes that white officers who used tanks a couple of times under the guidance of English instructors already had ready personnel for guiding tank corps who perfectly knew the tactics and strategy of using mechanical units, that the same white officers from the Crimea would have completely fallen for the post sergeants and lieutenants in 1941, being (if they were alive) already of unapproachable age, that only political were in the GULAGs - for criminals they probably built a separate punishment system ... and so on and so on ...
                      3. -3
                        25 March 2020 17: 17
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        And the citizen generally alien perception

                        there are enough fools in Russia the Great ... bully
                      4. +3
                        25 March 2020 17: 19
                        Quote: ser56
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        And the citizen generally alien perception

                        there are enough fools in Russia the Great ... bully

                        How do you characterize your alien thinking self-critically and accurately .. And the main thing is short.
                      5. -3
                        25 March 2020 17: 58
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        your alien thinking

                        I am Russian, and you, although I am not a doctor, have serious problems ... I don’t see the point of discussing with you! request
                      6. +2
                        25 March 2020 18: 08
                        Quote: ser56
                        discuss with you I do not see the point!

                        And discussions with you cannot take place in principle - your myths and fairy tales have long been disassembled and debated to holes.
                        PySy - uvas that apart from "Ogonyok" there is no other literature at hand?
                      7. -1
                        25 March 2020 18: 43
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        And with you, there can be no discussion in principle

                        you forgot about the aliens ... it seems Krylov acted ... bully
                      8. 0
                        26 March 2020 14: 22
                        Quote: ser56
                        you forgot about aliens ..

                        And what is this conclusion based on?
                      9. -2
                        25 March 2020 17: 16
                        Quote: Alexander Green
                        They put him in a gulag for crimes.

                        Do not tell the crimes of Polikarpov? feel
                      10. +3
                        25 March 2020 22: 37
                        Quote: ser56
                        Do not tell the crimes of Polikarpov?

                        Read the wiki:
                        October 24, 1929 Polikarpov was arrested on charges of "participating in a counter-revolutionary wrecking organization" and sent to work in a prison KB. Here he created the I-5 fighter (was in service for 9 years), after a demonstration flight of which the designer was amnestied before Stalin on July 7, 1931.
                        AIF from 30.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX writes:
                        - For Sikorsky, he called Polikarpov with him
                        - sneezed at the party, dared to Stalin and defiantly went to church.
                        Now only for insulting the president: Correctional labor up to 1 year of article 319 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
                        How much did the Bolsheviks give the Polikarpov monsters there?
                        Polikarpov, and after his release in public, dared to Stalin.
                      11. 0
                        26 March 2020 12: 00
                        Quote: naidas
                        Read the wiki:

                        I read his biography ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        - For Sikorsky, he called Polikarpov with him

                        if not a secret - what does Polikarpov have to do with it?
                        Quote: naidas
                        sneezed at the party
                        terrible sin ... bully
                        Quote: naidas
                        dared to Stalin
                        maybe he was telling the truth and his opinion? was not a sneak ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        and defiantly went to church.
                        is that a crime? By the way, they forgot - his father was an archbishop ... request
                        Quote: naidas
                        How much did the Bolsheviks give the Polikarpov monsters there?

                        shooting ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        Polikarpov, and after his release in public, dared to Stalin.

                        Sir, you are a coward and a loafer in your soul, you cannot understand a normal person ... request
                        The one you described above does not contain a corpus delicti ... request
                      12. 0
                        28 March 2020 14: 47
                        Quote: ser56
                        Sir, you are a coward and a loafer in your soul, you cannot understand a normal person

                        If you read the biography, then served a little more than 1,5 years.
                        Quote: ser56
                        The one you described above does not contain a corpus delicti ..

                        Article 319 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation does not contain a corpus delicti? Then why does it exist?
                        And Penza anarchists in 2020 to 20 years.
                        Yes, and the church from 1917 and in the early 20's showed itself as opponents of the Bolsheviks.
                      13. 0
                        28 March 2020 17: 02
                        Quote: naidas
                        If you read the biography, then served a little more than 1,5 years.

                        few? the sentence - execution - remained ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        Article 319 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation does not contain a corpus delicti? Then why does it exist?

                        1) are you asking me?
                        2) "Public insult of a representative of the authorities in the performance of his official duties or in connection with their execution - shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to forty thousand rubles or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to three months, or by compulsory labor for a term of up to three hundred sixty hours, or correctional labor for up to one year.
                        Source: http://stykrf.ru/319 "
                        you understand the difference between "daring" and public insult? Or write without thinking? bully
                      14. 0
                        30 March 2020 21: 30
                        Quote: ser56
                        few? the sentence - execution - remained ...

                        For an open visit to an organization that opposed the Bolsheviks?
                        Try now openly visit those who are against the state.
                        Quote: ser56
                        you understand the difference between "daring" and public insult? Or write without thinking?

                        Are you sure that the rejection of the party and going to church in the 20s is not public? I suppose, in the order of delirium for those years, a declaration of the settlement of the word. Or do you still have an explanation?
                        They read a biography and didn’t know that he had served a little more than 1,5 years. How did they read through the page? I don’t know that he was offered to go abroad, I don’t know about the refusal of the party.
                      15. +3
                        25 March 2020 22: 00
                        Quote: ser56
                        re-read Sholokhov or the article of the ITT Dizziness from success ...

                        There is also "For which the inhabitants of the village of Poltava are evicted from the Kuban to the northern regions." A. Radin, L. Shaumyan, 1932
                        Read and enjoy:
                        - only 30 percent are now seeded.
                        - last year, in the autumn sowing, the lands did not plow properly, they sowed, sown part of the seeds were plundered and not sown, then in the summer they didn’t weed areas,
                        -In the agricultural credit partnership Kovtun - in the past - the assistant of the village chieftain. When a poor man came to a partnership for a loan, they gave him 3-5 rubles only if he brought a written guarantee of two wealthy villagers.
                        -The village of Poltava today has been collectivized by only about one-third, about two-thirds were single-handed, and a huge amount of the poor, middle peasants and even former red partisans were left behind the collective farm. Nazarenko, Kovtun, Yurchenko and their friends needed "their" collective farm, the poor, the middle peasants were useless on "their" collective farm.
                        - At the hottest time, joining a collective farm did not exceed 40 percent, and even that was mainly due to adolescents, sometimes directly to children who, however, received workdays on an equal basis with adults. And adults only delved into private gardens and vineyards, speculating in the bazaars with bread, wine and grapes.
                        -Plowed in Poltava continuous flaws. Late grain was thrown into the ground, dooming the sowing to death in advance. Production rates were not met.
                        - Pest sowing, on which the sown strip alternated with a wide strip of weeds, was not taken by any machine during harvesting, the mowers broke.
                        - in the village of Poltava there are almost no foals. A Cossack, once famous for his love of a horse, rakes the collective farm uterus on the belly with a rake!

                        What do you think Sholokhov will write about this?
                      16. 0
                        26 March 2020 12: 01
                        Quote: naidas
                        What do you think Sholokhov will write about this?

                        1) Sholokhov wrote to Stalin about collectivization ...
                        2) Just think - why people did not want to work ... request
                      17. 0
                        28 March 2020 14: 35
                        Quote: ser56
                        Sholokhov wrote to Stalin about collectivization ..

                        Sholokhov wrote about party excesses, if you read his letters and investigations of his letters, pay attention to the party members too. In 1937, Stalin admitted that from 1922 -37. 1,5 million expelled from the party
                        Quote: ser56
                        Just think - why people did not want to work.

                        And this is understandable, a freebie, everyone has been equalized, you can not work, the state can be taken care of, plus others have not been allowed to turn around. Whoever wanted to work, for me, is an example of my dispossessed ancestors.
                      18. 0
                        28 March 2020 16: 59
                        Quote: naidas
                        about party excesses

                        funny ....
                        Quote: naidas
                        Who wanted to work

                        for people to work, they need to be organized and motivated .... request
                      19. 0
                        30 March 2020 21: 33
                        Quote: ser56
                        for people to work, they need to be organized and motivated

                        How is it now? As with the NEP?
                        You argue as a sadist. Stolypin, in justification of organization and motivation, referred to the time that he would judge and the blood in the hands of the executioner would separate him from the blood in the hands of the doctor.
                        The task was to survive for everyone, and not the most working and strong, the rest for recycling.
                      20. 0
                        31 March 2020 17: 39
                        Quote: naidas
                        How is it now? As with the NEP?

                        the criterion of truth is practice .... It was during the NEP that agricultural industry was restored .... and now in stores everything is blocked request
                        Quote: naidas
                        You reason like a sadist

                        that you are poorly cultured and educated - I know ... hi

                        Quote: naidas
                        The task was to survive for everyone, and not the most working and strong, the rest for recycling.

                        the destruction of the strong and hard working inevitably leads to the hunger of all ... request but it’s difficult for you ... hi
                      21. 0
                        31 March 2020 18: 13
                        Quote: ser56
                        It was under the NEP that agricultural industry was restored

                        And also the tension in the village began to resemble the pre-revolutionary (5% of kulaks for 35% of the poor), the boycott of bread delivery at state prices, the revival of homelessness. You should have continued, then one side was enriched, the other looked at it and decided why 1917, and where then Bolsheviks?. (Still can give you history lessons on the right opposition and the situation in the country?)
                  2. +4
                    25 March 2020 20: 09
                    Quote: ser56
                    Is it a little?

                    Everything is known in comparison. For me, it’s not enough, Stolypin and Yeltsin have more people to dispose of, and the results are more than shameful.
                    1. 0
                      26 March 2020 12: 04
                      Quote: naidas
                      Everything is relative

                      exactly!
                      Quote: naidas
                      Stolypin and Yeltsin are more disposed of by the people, and the results are more than shameful.

                      actually putting these people in a row is strange request
                      Stolypin did not send people for recycling - with him, terrorists were executed ... request
                      1. 0
                        28 March 2020 14: 25
                        Quote: ser56
                        Stolypin did not send people for recycling - terrorists were executed under him

                        I wonder where Stolypin was going to put those who did not fit into the market? There was not so much labor in the countryside and industry.
                        the execution of terrorists is the pinnacle of the problem. This is what Peasants dealt with in the 1904 report (Stolypin, Saratov Governor): The disadvantage of this class is already proved by the fact that entire villages of the Saratov province are engaged in professional poverty in the winters.

                        And I'm sorry, see the law on vagrancy (either the 14th or 15th vault) - the prison and Siberia.
                        Quote: ser56
                        actually putting these people in a row is strange

                        Here I agree, rather it is necessary to compare not people, but the country of the Republic of Ingushetia since 1905. and the USSR since 1985, the destruction of statehood, betting on entrepreneurship, etc.
                      2. 0
                        28 March 2020 16: 57
                        Quote: naidas
                        In the countryside and in industry, so much labor was not needed.

                        you are mistaken - there was rapid industrial growth, steeper than in the first five-year period ... in addition, resettlement to Siberia and the Far East developed ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        that entire villages of the Saratov province are engaged in professional beggars in the winters.

                        professional beggars have always been ... request I note that there was no famine - there was a system of assistance with malnutrition ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        And I'm sorry, see the law on vagrancy (either the 14th or 15th vault) - the prison and Siberia.

                        remember the Soviet laws? bully

                        Quote: naidas
                        , and the country of RI since 1905. and the USSR since 1985, the destruction of statehood, betting on entrepreneurship, etc.

                        RI was at that time a perfectly reasonable state - economic growth, political freedoms ... the USSR fell into self-destruction - that is where it belongs to him ...
                      3. 0
                        30 March 2020 21: 42
                        Quote: ser56
                        wrong - there was rapid industrial growth, steeper than in the first five-year period

                        unfounded and nowhere, 1900-1903 crisis and stagnation until 1909.
                        Quote: ser56
                        I note that there was no famine - there was a system of assistance with malnutrition ...

                        in Yakutia, this is noticeable — hunger from 1911-1913, came to St. Petersburg so that the governor allowed me to accept help, I suppose it was no better in other places. Tolstoy and Korolenko wrote about this help — quinoa helped more.
                        Quote: ser56
                        remember the Soviet laws?

                        Let's.
                        Quote: ser56
                        RI was at that time quite a reasonable state - economic growth, political freedom.

                        This is where, I saw the result of rationality, and they warned in advance that what we were going to the wrong place was said by Nikolai1.
                      4. 0
                        31 March 2020 17: 42
                        Quote: naidas
                        1900-1903 crisis and stagnation until 1909.

                        but you did not forget that in 1905-07 a revolution was launched?
                        Quote: naidas
                        . Tolstoy and Korolenko wrote about this help, quinoa helped more.

                        in the famine of the beginning of the 30s it was generally a secret .... The Red Army suppressed the starving ....
                        Quote: naidas
                        Nikolay1 said there.

                        who else do you remember? bully
                      5. 0
                        31 March 2020 18: 08
                        Quote: ser56
                        but you did not forget that in 1905-07 a revolution was launched?

                        And what did the revolution destroy, factories? Or do you need to be trained in what is supply and demand?
                        Quote: ser56
                        in the famine of the beginning of the 30s it was generally a secret .... The Red Army suppressed the starvation

                        So secret that Olgovich trumps evidence.
                        Quote: ser56
                        who else do you remember?

                        Alexander 2 fulfilling the oath, Alexander 3 forbade hunger, Stolypin with blood on the hands of a doctor or executioner. If you need even closer to 1917 in the internet, Nikolai 2 warned that we were moving towards a revolution.
                      6. 0
                        31 March 2020 18: 18
                        Quote: naidas
                        And that revolution destroyed factories

                        Of course, besides that, estates were burned - and they are commodity producers ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        Or do you need to be trained in what is supply and demand?

                        1) you do not have the necessary qualifications to train me, I have .. hi
                        2) You have self-prophecy - any revolution reduces demand .... crying
                        Quote: naidas
                        So secret that Olgovich trumps evidence.

                        they didn’t write about it in the newspapers, as did the writers in the magazines .... you again fight yourself ... like a non-commissioned officer widow ... request
                        Quote: naidas
                        Stolypin with blood on the hands of a doctor or executioner

                        and the doctor and the executioner are servants .... some heal, others clean the earth ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        If necessary, even closer to 1917 on the Internet, Nicholas 2 was warned that we were moving towards a revolution.

                        re-read the note Durnovo .. request Alas, IN2 was not ready for tough measures ... request .
                      7. 0
                        April 1 2020 14: 51
                        Quote: ser56
                        Of course, in addition, estates were burned - and they are commodity producers.

                        Damn, and here you are not in the subject: Burning the estate burned what he rented:
                        In all regions, land price increases stimulated the desire to get rid of land. The landowner sold or leased, the peasant bought or rented. Most of the landowners, who owned their own households, hired workers and exploited their tools and livestock, used loans to increase capital. There were many more who, regardless of the way they managed the estate, found it very profitable to take loans secured by land and put them on interest-bearing urgent bank accounts or invest in more profitable stocks and bonds.
                        In approximately this way, more than 3,5 billion rubles were received, received by the nobility from the sale of land or the expropriation of it in favor of the peasantry between 1863 and 1914.
                        Along with this, from the mid-1880s, steppe lands of the Black Sea and Lower Volga became the leading grain producers, pushing the center of the Black Earth region into the background. The advantage of these areas, not so long ago colonized and with a rare peasant population, provided an advantageous combination of fertile soils and modern methods of cultivating the land using hired labor.
                        Quote: ser56
                        1) you do not have the necessary qualifications to train me, I have.

                        Then you will have Zen with such knowledge, here you will receive setbacks (minuses) for your knowledge.
                        Quote: ser56
                        the newspapers did not write about it

                        Another nonsense-chatter newspaper Hooter, letters from readers.
                        Quote: ser56
                        and the doctor and the executioner are employees .... some treat, others clean the ground.

                        and this nonsense to what?
                        Quote: ser56
                        Alas, IN2 was not ready for tough measures.

                        And what was he ready to hand over everything to chance?
                      8. 0
                        April 1 2020 16: 36
                        Quote: naidas
                        Damn, and here you are not in the subject

                        re-read yourself - a meaningless set of words ... request as for the zones of commodity production - you forgot Altai ... hi
                        Quote: naidas
                        When you have Zen with such knowledge

                        I write only in scientific journals that are indexed in Scopus or WoS ... request
                        Quote: naidas
                        for your knowledge you will receive setbacks (minuses).

                        as there is a classic - there are always more mediocrity ... request
                        Quote: naidas
                        Podhodivka newspaper Hooter, letters from readers.

                        waiting for a link ...
                        Quote: naidas
                        And what was he ready to hand over everything to chance?

                        unlike you, he answered very harshly for his affairs ... request
          2. +14
            23 March 2020 16: 01
            Quote: ser56
            Quote: tihonmarine
            I.V. Stalin is the Greatest Leader of the country.

            Do not voice what his greatness is? among the victims?

            Its greatness is that we live. If we didn’t have nuclear weapons, we simply wouldn’t be.
            1. -12
              24 March 2020 11: 41
              Quote: nikvic46
              His greatness is that we live.

              Russia lived 1000 years without IVS ... request
              Quote: nikvic46
              .If we didn’t have nuclear weapons, we simply wouldn’t be.
              another tale ... hi
          3. +16
            23 March 2020 16: 09
            [quote = ser56] [quote = tihonmarine]
            “Do not voice what his greatness is? among the victims? ”

            Among the achievements in education, science, industry, agriculture.
            1. -11
              24 March 2020 11: 43
              Quote: Marine Engineer
              Among the achievements in education, science, industry, agriculture.

              about s / x it's you! bully The level of education in the USSR fell sharply - graduates of secondary schools are not comparable with graduates of gymnasiums or real schools ... request and. etc .... I note that there have been successes, but the price for them is excessive ...
          4. +21
            23 March 2020 16: 58
            Quote: ser56
            Do not voice what his greatness is? among the victims?

            All the main social achievements of the Soviet regime - free medicine, free education, free housing were created in his era.
            Industrialization of the economy.
            Universal secondary education. The heyday of culture. The help of the intelligentsia.
            Building a socialist state.
            The creation of a single, socially homogeneous Soviet society.

            Alexander Twardovsky ABOUT STALINE excerpt

            Most like me, in the world,
            That did not meet him in the Kremlin Hall,
            In the eyes close did not see him
            And voices in kind were not heard.
            But everyone, probably, like me,
            He is close to the equal closeness of the soul,
            It's like he's alone with you
            Talking about life daily
            About the future, about peace, and war ...

            And all to you as a native, in it
            To the little things familiar and familiar.
            And that conversation lasts day after day
            You have it, you have it at home.
            Whatever it is, and you are always alone.
            And so any other of the majority
            Seeing himself in high council there.
            We all have equal rights to that, -
            He lives for us in this world.
            1. -11
              24 March 2020 11: 46
              Quote: Arlen
              All the main social achievements of Soviet power

              greatly exaggerated ... request
              Quote: Arlen
              The creation of a single, socially homogeneous Soviet society.

              where were the enemies of the people millions in the gulag? bully
              Quote: Arlen
              Alexander Twardovsky ABOUT STALINE excerpt

              What nonsense ... bully Well licked the leader - pay for a bread place ...
              1. +6
                24 March 2020 17: 15
                Quote: ser56
                where were the enemies of the people millions in the gulag?

                Now in the US there are more enemies of the people in prisons.
                1. -5
                  24 March 2020 18: 22
                  Quote: naidas
                  Now in the US there are more enemies of the people in prisons.

                  1) it is violet to me how many ZK sits in the USA request
                  2) if it’s not a secret, thieves are for you. Are killers and robbers enemies of the people? Enlightenment - there are no 58 articles in the USA ... request
                  1. +1
                    25 March 2020 18: 15
                    Quote: ser56
                    Enlightenment - there are no 58 articles in the USA ...

                    And how does your alien perception relate to Bandera and other Vlasov? Or does it not apply to them 58? Well, or are they not judged and punished in the USA for treason?
                    1. -2
                      25 March 2020 18: 46
                      Quote: mat-vey
                      to Bandera and other Vlasovites?

                      in USA? they don’t put it there ... do you have a fever for nothing? bully
                      Quote: mat-vey
                      In the United States do not judge and punish for treason?

                      Quote: ser56
                      it’s violet to me how many ZK sits in the USA

                      learn to understand what is read - I understand - it’s difficult ... request
                      1. 0
                        26 March 2020 12: 07
                        .... it’s violet to me how many ZK sits in the USA ....
                        You’re lying, sick, it’s all the same.
                        Otherwise, foaming at the mouth, I would not have been proving "how good it is, where we are not" ...
                      2. 0
                        26 March 2020 12: 33
                        Quote: smphantom
                        You’re lying, sick, it’s all the same.

                        another boor went to the forum ... bully
                        Quote: smphantom
                        Otherwise, foaming at the mouth, I would not have been proving "how good it is, where we are not" ...

                        can quotes from me about it? Or shit and run away? hi
                      3. +1
                        26 March 2020 14: 19
                        Quote: ser56
                        learn to understand what is read - I understand - it’s difficult ...

                        Well, don’t you know about complexity - you didn’t manage to learn this.
                      4. 0
                        26 March 2020 16: 27
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        you didn’t manage to learn this.

                        but I taught you how to appeal to you ... good luck
                      5. +1
                        26 March 2020 16: 38
                        Quote: ser56
                        but I taught you to contact you ..

                        All the same, it would be nice for you to cure megalomania to a reasonable size ..
                  2. +5
                    25 March 2020 22: 41
                    Quote: ser56
                    USA no 58 article.

                    I agree. I am also for treating the past as in the United States. To start a commission on anti-Soviet activity and denigrating Stalin. To dismiss all those seen from work. Then introduce prohibitions on professions for all blackeners. Then there will be no 58, no one will pickle.
                    1. -1
                      26 March 2020 12: 05
                      Quote: naidas
                      . I am also for the attitude to the past as in the USA.

                      but didn’t you try to live with your brains? or are they not? feel
                      1. 0
                        28 March 2020 14: 05
                        Quote: ser56
                        but didn’t you try to live with your brains? or are they not?

                        Are you talking about:
                        A person learns from his mistakes, is smart to learn from other people's mistakes, and a fool does not learn at all.
                        With Khrushchev, Russia is the only country that self-flagellates itself. That’s interesting why they don’t take an example from other civilized countries, how to relate to their past?
                      2. 0
                        28 March 2020 16: 53
                        Quote: naidas
                        With Khrushchev, Russia is the only country that voluntarily scourges itself

                        are mistaken - since 1917 the whole history of Russia has been denied request
                      3. 0
                        30 March 2020 21: 44
                        Quote: ser56
                        are mistaken - since 1917 the whole history of Russia has been denied

                        This is nonsense. Review Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible - in your opinion they were denied.
                      4. 0
                        31 March 2020 17: 43
                        Quote: naidas
                        This is nonsense. Review Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible - in your opinion they were denied.

                        it’s your complete lack of knowledge of the history of Russia — you come to your senses during the war ... and destroyed monuments and graves ... recall the fate of the graves of Bagration or Ushakov?
                      5. 0
                        31 March 2020 18: 04
                        Quote: ser56
                        this is your complete lack of knowledge of the history of Russia

                        but it’s nothing that entire residential neighborhoods were built in cemeteries. You mean knowledge of history is knowledge of graves. Then what are you doing on this forum, you need to have a forum of the same experts on graves.
                      6. 0
                        31 March 2020 18: 07
                        Quote: naidas
                        but it’s nothing that entire residential areas were built on cemeteries

                        in the USSR hi
                        Quote: naidas
                        You mean knowledge of history is knowledge of graves

                        be surprised - yes! From Egypt to the barrows in the steppes - you once again confirmed your low knowledge .... request
                        Quote: naidas
                        Then what are you doing on this forum, you need to have a forum of the same experts on the graves.

                        YOU forgot to ask, because I do not consider it necessary ... bully
                      7. 0
                        April 1 2020 14: 56
                        Quote: ser56
                        YOU forgot to ask, because I do not consider it necessary ..

                        He simply asked what the tafofilist does on a site where they discuss not graves, but the acts of people and again silence. And so the site is for any opinions, including cemetery lovers, who brings the light of red-light to knowledge.
                      8. 0
                        April 1 2020 16: 38
                        Quote: naidas
                        And so is the site for any opinions, including cemetery enthusiasts, which brings light of knowledge to the red-bellied.

                        went golimy flood and insulted pride - good luck ... hi
                  3. +4
                    25 March 2020 23: 03
                    Quote: ser56
                    Enlightenment - there are no 58 articles in the USA ...

                    Of course, there in the USA criminal liability for calls to change or undermine the state and social system is regulated by the federal criminal code. (Section 18 of the US Code).
                    Art. 2385 for propaganda aimed at overthrowing the government - should be punished by imprisonment for up to 20 years or a fine of up to 20 thousand dollars, or both together and should be deprived of the right to hold positions in any department or body of the United States
                    st.2384 "rebellious conspiracy" up to 20 years
                    In ch. 115 “Treason, a call for rebellion, subversive activity” provides for liability for treason (Article 2381); concealment of treason (art. 2382); rebellion or rebellion (v. 2383); rebellious conspiracy (Article 2384); propaganda to overthrow the government (art. 2385); refusal to register certain organizations (Article 2386); activities harmful to the armed forces in general (Article 2387) and in time of war in particular (Article 2388); recruiting military personnel for service against the United States (Art. 2389); voluntary military service in troops hostile to the United States (Article 2390).
                    Congress provided for punishment for treason - the death penalty or imprisonment for a term of at least five years and a fine of at least 10 thousand dollars.

                    You can recall the Queen, according to the US Criminal Code damage, destruction or poor-quality manufacturing of objects or construction of objects specified in Art. 2153 intended for national defense (Articles 2155, 2156).

                    Let's recall the triples in 1937 — for conviction for treason, the testimonies of at least two witnesses of “obvious action” or the confession of the accused in open court are necessary (part 3 of article III of the US Constitution: section 18 of article I of the Constitution and paragraph b art. California Criminal Code) is punishable by death or life imprisonment without the right to early release.

                    Let us recall the denunciations: according to the Federal Criminal Code, “one who, being obligated to remain faithful to the United States and knowing about committing treason against them, hides it and as soon as possible does not inform the president or any judge of the United States or any governor or judge “a certain state is punishable by a fine or imprisonment for a term of up to seven years or both sentences” (Article 2382).
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          5. +7
            23 March 2020 19: 46
            Quote: ser56

            Do not voice what his greatness is? among the victims?

            Yes, even if it doesn’t give peace to local liberals, they strive to debunk it.
            1. -9
              24 March 2020 11: 47
              Quote: ZAV69
              Yes, even if it doesn’t give peace to local liberals, they strive to debunk it.

              Do you really need enemies - today liberals, tomorrow others? request Do you dream of denunciations writing in an analogue of the NKVD? wink
              1. +6
                24 March 2020 16: 59
                Quote: ser56
                Do you dream of denunciations writing in an analogue of the NKVD?

                Yes, you yourself have written so much in social networks and forums that it’s enough for several periods.
                1. -6
                  24 March 2020 18: 18
                  Quote: ZAV69
                  Yes, you yourself have written so much in social networks and forums that it’s enough for several periods.

                  definitely waiting for the opportunity to write denunciations ... bully
                  1. +5
                    24 March 2020 19: 24
                    Quote: ser56
                    definitely waiting for the opportunity to write denunciations ...

                    In our digital age in denunciations there is no sense whatsoever, everyone has already conveyed to themselves. I look forward to the moment when fools fall on the head of what they, competing in wit, wrote in comments and zhezhek.
                    I want to look at the columns of fools under guard
                  2. +6
                    24 March 2020 20: 11
                    Quote: ser56
                    in person, waiting for the opportunity to write denunciations ...

                    Once again responsible for this post. About the denunciations, I answered.
                    So, if you have to shoot at the liberals who killed my country and killing its remains, I will shoot without hesitation. You really wanted to read it?
                    1. -6
                      25 March 2020 11: 33
                      Quote: ZAV69
                      So, if you have to shoot at the liberals who killed my country and killing its remains, I will shoot without hesitation.

                      Mega warrior, but you didn’t shoot in the 91st?)))) And now the liberals are not in power. Read the meaning of the word liberalism.
                      1. -6
                        25 March 2020 12: 05
                        Quote: CSKA
                        Mega warrior, but you didn’t shoot in the 91st?

                        it was so scary or went to kindergarten ... bully
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        About the denunciations, I answered.

                        you still don’t understand. that digital denunciation is no different from handwritten ... request and. that the scammer’s first whip ... hi
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        You really wanted to read it?

                        What problems do you have with attitude ... request To be honest, you are violet to me because of the vulgarity and vulgarity ... feel
                      2. +2
                        25 March 2020 20: 37
                        Quote: ser56
                        you still don’t understand. that the digital denunciation is no different from the handwritten ... request as well. that the scammer’s first whip ...

                        You have already written three times that I am ready to write denunciations. You know, this is such a widespread petty trick, accuse your opponent of some shameful act and let him justify yourself, and you like all in white with such a high spit.
                        So it seems to me that these were your ancestors in batches of denunciations, and now the genetic memory speaks for you, because a proverb is right, the hat is on a thief.
                        I tell you once again that now the main scammer is a search script, you, already in the forums and social networks for 5 terms wrote to yourself, and 100% there is a list in the FSB of those who, in which case, immediately grab and put to the nearest wall, and who just sawed.
                        As they say checked by Tit. Dap unsubscribed to him? 5 years like?
                      3. -1
                        26 March 2020 11: 47
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        You have already written three times that I am ready to write denunciations

                        re-read yourself - nothing to spit on the mirror ... request I’ll add, you’re also cowardly ...
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        So it seems to me that these are your ancestors in batches of denunciations wrote,

                        the difference between us is that I spoke directly and convincingly about you, and you vilely slander my ancestors! Is the difference available? And who are you for normal people? Usually scum behave this way ... request
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        100% there is in the FSB a list of those whom, in which case, immediately grab and put to the nearest wall, and who just sawed.

                        you are a coward ... request
                      4. +3
                        26 March 2020 15: 11
                        Quote: ser56
                        I spoke directly and convincingly about you

                        Well, I will also write that you are ready to write denunciations to the colonial administration.
                      5. 0
                        26 March 2020 16: 37
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        Well, so will I write

                        you already wrote everything, I qualified you - flood I don’t see the point - good luck ...
                      6. +1
                        26 March 2020 16: 38
                        Quote: ser56
                        I qualified you -

                        Well, so I qualified you.
                      7. 0
                        25 March 2020 17: 11
                        As if not in power, Putin directly answered the question and said that he was a liberal.
                      8. +3
                        25 March 2020 20: 04
                        Quote: CSKA
                        read the meaning of the word liberalism.

                        I do not need to read the definitions, I judge by their deeds. I am ready to shoot them. Okay?
                        Quote: CSKA
                        Chezh you in the 91st did not shoot?
                        but they don’t give weapons in the construction battalion ...
                      9. -1
                        26 March 2020 11: 48
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        in construction battalion

                        all right - only a spatula like that ... bully
          6. +10
            24 March 2020 12: 17
            Quote: ser56
            Do not voice what his greatness is? among the victims?

            The fact that from the ruins of the revolution he led the country to a great power, this is confirmed by the mattresses. We were forced to reckon with the USSR, and note - in just 36 years. Are you just eating your head? Everything lies on the surface. Criterion one - RESULT.
          7. +2
            24 March 2020 19: 26
            His greatness is that you live and prosper, you need to understand ... in a strange way. But according to your posts, neither you, nor your ancestors should have remained alive. Stalin, on the other hand, brutally dealt with everyone and killed everyone? Or are you from a rock that does not burn in fire and does not sink in water? Then it turns out that Stalin was tyrannizing badly. And he could throw an atomic bomb like Americans or coronovirus poison!
            Be friends with your head and she will reciprocate you! (Copyright)
        2. +1
          26 March 2020 18: 24
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And the cult was most real in mediocrity, such as Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, this is a cult, and I.V. Stalin is the Greatest Leader of the country.

          You're right .. I recalled a question to Simonov, some kind of journalist asked with maliciousness: How do you feel about the personality cult of Stalin?
          So he very coolly answered .. There was no way for the cult, but the PERSONALITY was !!!!
    2. +19
      23 March 2020 11: 10
      From a letter from Komsomol members and youth of the Soviet Union to the leader of the peoples, teacher and friend of Soviet youth Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin on the 30th anniversary of the Komsomol

      We are the name of the leader in battle and in labor
      We carry like a guards banner
      It inspires youth everywhere
      Like the sun, sparkles above us.

      Our wise teacher! Our leader and father!
      We swear the joy of life
      We swear with all the blood of hot hearts
      Serve the Fatherland wholeheartedly.

      Swear our land every inch
      Boldly defend in battles,
      Ready to give our youth
      The struggle for the popular cause.

      We give an indestructible oath
      On behalf of all youth:
      Persistent in labor and brave in battle,
      We will pave the way to communism.

      Long live our heroic people!
      Long live our power!
      The one who leads the country to communism is
      Glory to Great Stalin!

      Lenin gathered us under the red banner,
      And our destiny is great.
      To the one who brought up youth in the struggle, -
      Glory to Great Stalin!

      To be faithful to our party is always -
      Our duty and sacred right.
      To one whose confidence youth is proud, -
      Glory to Great Stalin!

      Like a hymn to selfless filial love,
      The words of our oath, sound!
      For the joy of us, live for many years,
      Our beloved leader and teacher!
      https://stalinism.ru/stikhi-i-pesni-o-staline/stihi-sovremennikov-stalina.html
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    3. +37
      23 March 2020 11: 11
      Marine engineer (....)
      A trifle always hates giants.
      Yes, everything is simple, after the death of Stalin, a person of his level was no longer found in the country. Well, not Khrushchev, in fact, could actually become a leader comparable to Stalin.
      Perhaps the makings of such a leader belonged to Zhukov, but he was not competent in the household, he did not possess the knowledge that Stalin possessed. Stalin's successor was to be either Beria or Kosygin. And I will never forgive Zhukov for his support of Judas Khrushchev. Zhukov could take offense at Stalin as much as he wanted, but Stalin did it very correctly, pointing Zhukov in his place, otherwise Marshal Victory got into a bend.
      There is no need to talk about the current ones; they are not suitable for Stalin. He wouldn’t even let them in for the role. Hence the petty malice, and envy, and spitting. But, the more dirt the powerful people pour on him, the more popular Stalin will be among the common people. Because people can’t be deceived all the time, they cease to believe those who deceived him more than once. So the fashion for Stalin will only grow.

      I don’t know how, but along with my grandfather’s photo I’ll carry a photo of Stalin on the 75th anniversary of the Great Victory, because it was Stalin who forged this Victory and is most worthy to be at the head of the Immortal Regiment’s column on Red Square, and not a bloody nicholas in his hands distraught prosecutor.
      1. -21
        23 March 2020 11: 18
        Voznesensky possessed much data for the future head of the country, but Stalin himself removed it.
        1. Fat
          +10
          23 March 2020 11: 57
          Quote: Sergej1972
          Voznesensky possessed much data for the future head of the country, but Stalin himself removed it.

          This is unlikely .. Malenkov and Abakumov were the initiators of the "Leningrad affair". The undercover war for the Stalinist inheritance began during his lifetime.
          Almost all members of Zhdanov’s team were repressed
          For Leningrad Abakumov was shot in 1954 ...
          1. +5
            23 March 2020 13: 02
            I agree with you. He himself commented on this issue several times on the site. Malenkov (the personality is also extraordinary and contradictory, he has real merits to the country) and the company behind Stalin turned this matter around. We have to admit that in old age, the suspicion of Stalin, the Malenkov group took advantage of its interests. And Khrushchev won in the end, along with his nominees.
        2. +7
          23 March 2020 12: 01
          “Voznesensky possessed much data for the future head of the country, .....”

          I used to think the same way, now I'm not sure that he could become one.
          1. -5
            23 March 2020 13: 31
            At least the second or third he could well be in the leadership. He was accused of giving preference to the Great Russian cadres in the Council of Ministers and the State Planning Commission, and did not hide this. Comrades of non-Russian nationalities did not like this. Although he went overboard a little. He and Beria most of all insisted on the forced relocation of part of the North Caucasians.
            1. +3
              23 March 2020 15: 42
              “At least the second or third he could well be in the leadership .......”

              He could be the third, but not the first.
              I had to read that Ascension was not abstained in "language", arrogant, could insult a person at the meeting with foul language. If this is true, then climbing to the "top" would only exacerbate these character traits.
        3. +3
          23 March 2020 12: 40
          Voznesensky possessed much data for the future head of the country, but Stalin himself removed it.

          = If removed, then Voznesensky did not possess any such data. Do not try to rewrite History. Remember the rule: "You know better from the mountain!"
          Or maybe you decided about yourself that you know better?
          Then to the doctor!
          1. 0
            23 March 2020 13: 05
            So to speak. One of Stalin's closest associates, Molotov, is an authority for you? In conversations with Felix Chuev, Molotov spoke several times about Voznesensky and Kuznetsov, spoke well of them. Justifying the repressions of 37-38, Molotov considered the "Leningrad affair" to be falsified. A number of authors point out that both Molotov and Beria understood that after the "Leningrad affair" they could take on them too.
            1. +8
              23 March 2020 13: 36
              "They don't wave their fists after a fight." If Stalin at that time, in THAT situation, made such a decision, then it was the only correct one for those circumstances.
              From the perspective of today, categorically speaking is not true.
              We can only regret and sympathize. Everything else is opportunistic delights in someone's interests.
              1. 0
                24 March 2020 19: 31
                That's for sure! Mr. Putin in peacetime cannot or does not want to organize a civilized mechanism for the transfer of power based on the principles of democracy voiced by himself.
                This only says one thing: there is no democracy in Russia! But there is propaganda and a lie.
                1. -1
                  25 March 2020 11: 39
                  Quote: Campanella
                  This only says one thing: there is no democracy in Russia! But there is propaganda and a lie.

                  And what doesn’t suit you?))))) In the USSR there was democracy and there was no propaganda and lies?
                  1. 0
                    25 March 2020 12: 00
                    It was, of course. And that this should serve as an excuse for someone?
                    1. 0
                      31 March 2020 15: 25
                      Quote: Campanella
                      It was, of course. And that this should serve as an excuse for someone?

                      Justification of what? In which country of the world there is no propaganda of the current government and its critics? Is there no democracy in the Russian Federation? In the Russian Federation it is many times more than in the USSR. Yes, and still need to find a lie.
                      1. 0
                        31 March 2020 22: 28
                        Democracy in Russia? Are you laughing? Do you consider elections as a democracy? Where are the referendums? Where are the independent unions? Where are the normal non-pocket games? Where is the political competition?
                2. 0
                  26 March 2020 12: 33
                  ... Putin in peacetime can not or does not want to organize a civilized mechanism for the transfer of power on the principles of democracy voiced by him himself ....

                  You tell about this Angela our Merkel.
                  1. 0
                    26 March 2020 16: 56
                    The Germans will tell her about this.
          2. Fat
            0
            23 March 2020 21: 51
            Quote: PavelM
            Voznesensky possessed much data for the future head of the country, but Stalin himself removed it.

            = If removed, then Voznesensky did not possess any such data. Do not try to rewrite History. Remember the rule: "You know better from the mountain!"
            Or maybe you decided about yourself that you know better?
            Then to the doctor!

            I like old Joe Stalin. He is a good guy, but he is a prisoner of the Politburo. He would go to certain agreements, but they do not give him. (C)
            - Harry Truman, June 1948
      2. +14
        23 March 2020 11: 38
        Any people need a leader - this is the law of nature. A leader is a person who, through a high-moral affair, has proved that you can follow him without looking back. The need for a leader is confirmed by the same Zaputinists who are diligently building the cult of Putin’s personality. We Soviet put forward our leader, whose name was Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin, according to his great deeds, who lifted the Country of Soviets to an unprecedented height. Serving under the banner of Stalin was a matter of honor and valor. Service under the banner of Putin is the refuge of villains and opportunists.
        1. -23
          23 March 2020 12: 25
          Do not make yourself an idol. The leader is necessary for underdeveloped tribes. The rest is enough competent leader.
          1. +5
            24 March 2020 12: 24
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            quite competent leader.

            Sorry, but this is the leader. Do not get hung up on words.
          2. +3
            24 March 2020 19: 33
            A.S. Ivanov, then it turns out to a person and the head is not needed! After all, she is also a leader ...
          3. 0
            26 March 2020 12: 38
            ... Leader is necessary for underdeveloped tribes ....

            This is from the category: is there a price for smart people, for fools ?,
        2. 0
          26 March 2020 12: 36
          .... Service under the banner of Putin is a refuge ....
          Ek twisted.
          Friend, do you have a schizo?
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      4. +12
        23 March 2020 15: 03
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        Perhaps the makings of such a leader belonged to Zhukov, but he was not competent in the household, he did not possess the knowledge that Stalin possessed.

        His subsequent actions showed that he did not possess these inclinations, especially when he contacted Khrushchev. Zhukov "General Victory", but not the leader of the country and the people.
      5. -5
        24 March 2020 13: 20
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        Hence the petty malice, and envy, and spitting. But, the more dirt the powerful will pour on him

        But who can you give an example and when did you pour dirt on him?
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        the more popular Stalin will enjoy among the common people.

        )))) You probably live in some fictional world. Go out and talk to people. Even their older generation does not have the same attitude towards him; there is nothing to say about youth. For them, he is simply a historical figure and no more.
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        So the fashion for Stalin will only grow.

        Fashion?)))))) Fashion in what?
        1. +5
          24 March 2020 19: 36
          So you, CSKA, are watering the Soviet regime.
          1. -3
            25 March 2020 16: 23
            Quote: Campanella
            So you, CSKA, are watering the Soviet regime.

            What are you? Give an example.
            1. +1
              25 March 2020 17: 22
              And what do you not know about what you write here defending the current ochlocracy and telling how everything was bad in the USSR?
              "The only normal period is the end of the 60s and the beginning of the 80s, and then with a total lack of everything and everyone." a quote from you beloved ... treat your sclerosis!
              1. -1
                26 March 2020 17: 24
                Quote: Campanella
                And what do you not know about what you write here defending the current ochlocracy and telling how everything was bad in the USSR?
                "The only normal period is the end of the 60s and the beginning of the 80s, and then with a total lack of everything and everyone." a quote from you beloved ... treat your sclerosis!

                It turns out to state the fact is pouring dirt. Pouring mud - it is not justifiable to slander and lie. And what is my lie? Under Stalin, most of the people in the huts were huddled, getting a penny by smelling from morning to evening, could not afford anything, the average life expectancy was less than 40 years, and there was always a threat that they would write a denunciation to you. With Khrushchev’s perplexity, the only positive thing was the start of housing construction for the masses, otherwise the same failure, because people in Novocherkassk went out, for which they shot. Under Brezhnev, the situation improved, but not by much. The total deficit of everything and everything.
                I am normal towards Stalin, but I consider it nonsense to make him a saint. It must be treated as in China to Mao. And I regret that the USSR collapsed and were not held there when it was necessary to reform. But he didn’t fall apart because everything was wonderful and beautiful there, as you are trying to set now.
                Quote: Campanella
                defending the current ochlocracy

                Such as you once ruined the USSR, and now you whine what a beautiful country it was and how bad it is now. Is it all wrong for you to the whiners? Just to ruin everything. People like you are now ready to take to the streets, and after a while, just as well, you will cry and shout that you regret that you went for ebn.
                In today's Russia, people can afford much more than people in the USSR. And I can criticize the current government for something, the power is always not ideal and consists of many people who have different attitudes to their duties. But overall, she has achieved good results over the past 20 years.
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    5. +18
      23 March 2020 12: 04
      Quote: Marine engineer
      "... for this it is simply necessary to slander the one who was in front."

      A trifle always hates giants.

      For Khrushch, the deposition of the "personality cult" was a way of self-preservation. Otherwise, he himself did not become in power. Because he himself was the very dragon that he painted for everyone in Stalin. Moreover, he was a mediocre statesman.
      "Calm down, you fool" - there is an opinion that this is exactly how Vissarionych wrote at Khrushch's request to increase the quota for repression.
      1. -13
        23 March 2020 13: 12
        How do you explain the fact that in the last years of Stalin’s life on official pictures depicting the Soviet leadership Khrushchev was depicted next to Stalin as often as Malenkov, and sometimes more often?
        1. +6
          23 March 2020 17: 23
          [quote = Sergej1972] How do you explain the fact that in the last years of Stalin’s life in official films depicting the Soviet leadership Khrushchev was depicted next to Stalin as often as Malenkov, and sometimes more often? [/

          Khrushchev in the last years of Stalin’s life was the first secretary of the Moscow State Conservatory, the “creative intelligentsia” who sculpted official paintings lived mainly in Moscow and it was not difficult to “set” her desired direction.
          Anticipating your question whether Khrushchev personally corrected their “creativity”, I answer, not necessarily, for such “work” there is always a sufficient number of nomenclature lackeys.
        2. +4
          23 March 2020 18: 31
          Quote: Sergej1972
          How do you explain the fact that in the last years of Stalin’s life on official pictures depicting the Soviet leadership Khrushchev was depicted next to Stalin as often as Malenkov, and sometimes more often?

          Probably still not official, but official. But that is ...
          Even if such a fact existed, then it would be explained very simply. Khrushchev, the most experienced party apparatus even during the time of Stalin, was by no means the last person in the Party and in the Central Committee.
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    6. +29
      23 March 2020 12: 15
      Today, there is a need to protect Stalin from attempts to use his image to achieve some kind of anti-communist group or personal goals.
      The most used formula was the representation of Stalin by a kind of “sovereign”, “red emperor”. At the same time, it is known that Stalin himself reacted very negatively to such attempts to compare him with the reigning persons.
      Other so-called “statists” are trying to ascribe to Stalin a priority in work to strengthen the state in isolation from class tasks. Sometimes it even happens that “Stalin overcame Lenin”, that he abandoned Marxism-Leninism as a political science. However, all the statements of Stalin himself indicate the very opposite: as a Marxist-Leninist, Stalin fought the bourgeois state, dealt with its destruction and built a new state of workers and peasants.
      We can say that Stalin was one of the last Marxist-Leninists from the leaders of the USSR. Anti-Stalinism is a common sign of open anti-communists who hate the USSR and denigrate the achievements of socialism. But no less dangerous anti-Stalinism are attempts to distort Stalin, emasculate his Marxist spirit, and deprive him of the communist principle. And it is beneficial primarily to the supporters of the current government, since there is no reason to count on success with the current quality of state leadership.
    7. Fat
      -7
      23 March 2020 12: 54
      Quote: Marine engineer
      "... for this it is simply necessary to slander the one who was in front."

      A trifle always hates giants.

      ... Stalin, a desperate man who left all state and party posts for the sake of an ordinary death, after which it suddenly became clear that you could easily drive a corncob into any granite ass ... (C)
      Victor Pelevin, Water Tower, 1990
    8. -2
      23 March 2020 17: 31
      ironically
    9. +1
      23 March 2020 17: 58
      and large seen in the distance
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  3. +17
    23 March 2020 10: 42
    You just need to look around and see or not see. That's all.

    It would seem so simple .. indeed, you just need to look at the result .. But many are guided by emotions and propaganda ..
    1. +22
      23 March 2020 11: 00
      Quote: Svarog
      really, you just need to look at the result

      the result will always be in favor of Joseph Vissarionovich.
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        1. +10
          23 March 2020 12: 55
          But he did not like Jews

          It is unlikely. They hate him because in 38 Beria cleared the NKVD and the country from the organizers of the terror of the 37th year, but among them there were many Jews. Notice, not a word is said about the organizer of the repression of the 37th Yezhov, but Beria and Stalin are blamed for everything.
  4. +9
    23 March 2020 10: 43
    To the personality cult: BLIND admiration for the authority of a particular figure, exaltation of the role of ONE person, endowment with his supernatural qualities ...
    And the fact that he allowed the existence of other CULT figures alongside him. Molotov, Kalinin, Voroshilov, Kaganovich, whose portraits were worn at demonstrations, were printed in newspapers.
    In this case, the cult arose at a CRITICAL / TURNING moment, when a HUGE number of citizens were eager for it ..
    1. +26
      23 March 2020 11: 02
      Quote: knn54
      And the fact that he allowed the existence of other CULT figures

      Stalin managed to assemble a worthy team. over the past thirty years, nobody was able to assemble a worthy and respected team ...
      1. +12
        23 March 2020 11: 17
        Arlen
        Stalin managed to assemble a worthy team. over the past thirty years, nobody was able to assemble a worthy and respected team ...
        Always and everywhere the retinue made the king. Take any great person; he will always be surrounded by the geniuses of his time. This applies to everyone. A great man is great in that he is not afraid to nominate worthy helpers to himself, he is not afraid to look mediocre against their background. At the same time, mediocrity in power will never begin to surround itself with talents because it is afraid of them, afraid to look wretched against the background of their talents.
        So everything is natural.
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  5. -10
    23 March 2020 10: 44
    Let's go with two hands for:
  6. +18
    23 March 2020 10: 44
    There was a cult, there was. But there was a Person.
    1. AUL
      +21
      23 March 2020 10: 56
      Quote: AS Ivanov.
      But there was a Person.

      And now they are trying to impose a cult (who is the Leone), but the Personality (with a capital letter) - alas, no!
      1. -3
        23 March 2020 11: 36
        Quote from AUL
        And now they are trying to impose a cult

        Invented by the haters of Russia.
      2. -16
        23 March 2020 13: 33
        Who is now imposing a cult on you? Portraits of the insignificance of Brezhnev, an order of magnitude greater than the current president. Yes, and media references in the same proportions.
        1. +2
          23 March 2020 14: 22
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          Portraits of the insignificance of Brezhnev,

          if it's not a secret - why do you consider LIB a jerk? were you personally acquainted?
          1. -12
            23 March 2020 14: 34
            The merging of power with crime and the beginning of the collapse of industry were laid precisely during the reign of Brezhnev. An oil needle also appeared with him. And then - on the rise.
            1. -10
              23 March 2020 14: 37
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              growing power with crime

              started right with the advent of the Bolsheviks, so the criminals were socially close ... request
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              the beginning of the collapse of industry was laid precisely during the reign of Brezhnev.

              nonsense - it was during the LIB that they tried to do something, but could not - there was not enough determination to discard the dogma ... request
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              An oil needle also appeared with him

              as a result of an attempt to give ordinary people at least a little living, if not in abundance, then at least not in poverty ... hi
          2. -7
            23 March 2020 15: 00
            And can you personally know Stalin?
        2. +10
          23 March 2020 16: 29
          But the cult of personality can be imposed without an abundance of portraits and without constant lamentations from reproducers. Quietly, imperceptibly, but .... in power the GDP has been working for 20 years. And for what are his personal merits to the country? He lifted her from the ruins, improved the welfare of the country? Nevertheless, constantly, from each iron - and who, if not him. At critical moments for the authorities, a propaganda machine is launched and people are ready to carry GDP in their hands. Remember the uplifting times after the Crimea ... So in Russia the personality cult of the GDP is very stable, it’s another matter that he himself is shallow for such a role. Yes, crank up the KGB special operation. but larger in scale (the capture of the Crimea, to be cunning, it’s precisely a special operation carried out competently, then a media escort operation was carried out), The same special operation in Syria. And now we look at the special operation oil .... But the successes of sovereign construction, even remotely approaching I.V. Stalin is not something that is not visible, but simply not. And there is a cult, but it is imposed on us from above. How long? well no. They will wipe his feet off him, moreover, with pleasure, after his departure. For some reason I do not believe in the overthrow. They tried to wipe their feet about Stalin, and now there are a lot of people who want to dance on their bones, but the success of the country during his reign will not allow it to be done and no matter how hard-witted, the successes of the GDP no matter how glorified, they will not be remembered, but simply because by and large, on the carte blanche that history gave him, he turned out to be shallow and insignificant ... He failed everything that could be ... And then there was a chance and history favored him. But all the steam went to the whistle ...
          1. -4
            23 March 2020 17: 36
            Fuethe’s colleague agrees with almost all the assessments you gave in your comment, with the exception of “special operations literacy ...”.
            1. +2
              23 March 2020 17: 45
              Thank you for your assessment, I accept your comment about "literacy" in quotation marks.
            2. 0
              24 March 2020 15: 20
              I see by the reaction of the Zaputentsev that I hit the bull's-eye. This makes me happy.
          2. Alf
            +6
            23 March 2020 19: 52
            Quote: Fuethe
            The same special operation in Syria.

            1. Enter.
            2. Beat the basmachi.
            3. Under Farewell, the Slavs solemnly brought.
            4. Announced - In Syria, we won.
            5. By quietly entered, the war continues.
            Question-who won?
            Quote: Fuethe
            And now we look at the special operation oil ...

            The question is, who got more, the enemy or their own country?
            1. 0
              25 March 2020 17: 00
              As a conductor controls an orchestra, so he plays. But it looks like the orchestra and the conductor had different notes ....
          3. 0
            26 March 2020 12: 43
            He lifted her from the ruins, improved the welfare of the country?


            So you yourself answered your question :-)
            But "pushing their heads together" Putin vs Stalin does not work, epochs are different, tasks are also :-))
        3. Alf
          +5
          23 March 2020 19: 48
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          Yes, and media references in the same proportions.

          But now do not turn on which channel, you will surely run into a guarantor, often you sit with the remote control and remember whether you switched the channel or just thought, everywhere He, the Infallible statesman.
        4. +8
          23 March 2020 19: 59
          Portraits of the insignificance of Brezhnev, an order of magnitude more than ...
          Apparently, in comparison with you, all the circle of "insignificance". Pride is the greatest sin!
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  7. +13
    23 March 2020 10: 44
    The only benefit from Gorbachev is that thanks to him, and starting from him, all citizens on the territory of the USSR showed their true essence, and in particular, Stalin's supporters proved that they were for the truth about the history of their country - the pre-revolutionary, Soviet and post-Soviet periods, and the enemies of the Communists proved that they were only for a lie that was favorable and convenient for them, about the history of their country, even if contrary to elementary logic and common sense, even if it couldn’t be at all ..
    1. +7
      23 March 2020 11: 37
      Quote: tatra
      The only benefit from Gorbachev is

      Like a milk goat.
    2. +13
      23 March 2020 11: 42
      The benefits of Gorbachev, as a pack of yeast thrown into an open public toilet.
      .... flooded out of all the holes and, alas, continues to grind .... now stop the hell.
  8. +28
    23 March 2020 10: 47
    I read it 2 times, then I realized, the author mixed everything in a heap, but in fact it is a question about the role of the individual in history. Personalities always remain in history, but no one denies the millions of ordinary people who lived in this or that era.
    As for the cult, the cult creates power to please its own kind. Stalin praised? - Yes. Did Khrushchev sing praises? - Yes. And so on to Putin, who also sings songs. And who sings? Those who are caressed by the authorities are artists, journalists and po. To cherish. Deservedly? So here the author truly says, on business! Who are the judges? Who is rating? Did the people build the Yeltsin center or people who received power and money from their hands?
    The answer is obvious. History will judge, but winners write history. Here's a hitch
    1. +10
      23 March 2020 11: 16
      But Stalin had and still has a real cult of personality, without quotes, although Khrushchev slandered him, and the communists after Khrushchev kept silent about the Stalinist period, and the enemies of the communists, starting with Gorbachev and perestroika, have slandered Stalin for 30 years. BUT Stalin was popular with the Soviet / Russian people during his reign, and in the days of his death a huge number of Soviet people cried and came to his funeral in Moscow, and after 30 years of Stalinophobic propaganda of the "winners", Stalin's popularity among the Russian people is only growing ...
    2. +1
      23 March 2020 11: 40
      Quote: Silvestr
      I read it 2 times, then I realized, the author mixed everything in a heap, but in fact it is a question about the role of the individual in history.

      The era, personalities, people, it’s all one, and you can’t separate them. And here, many people are trying to share everything on the principle of a village dining room, flies separately, cutlets separately.
    3. +11
      23 March 2020 12: 00
      Quote: Silvestr
      How many decades have we been told that we are stupid people, drugged by propaganda and therefore unable to see all the harm, all the vileness and terrible cruelty of power in the USSR and, accordingly, in Russia. We are told that everything that happened and is happening in our country is directed exclusively against us.

      And we are not laying our lives for Russia, but for some hidden enemies of the state in the Central Committee of the party or the government of the USSR, and today for some oligarchs and the same enemies in the government and parliament of the Russian Federation.

      The author did this consciously. First, he correctly identified the concern of the authorities, the formed moods in society:
      In discussions on any subject, who are interested in society today, you will definitely find just such an opinion. "Our soldiers are dying for interests... » Then you can write the name of any oligarch or official of the highest level.

      And then he just took and smeared everyone together. I repeated the cheating reception, as with voting in a package, which would be harder to distinguish: where is the truth, who was really a great statesman, who was disinterested in his love for the Fatherland:
      How many decades have we been told that we are stupid people, drugged by propaganda and therefore unable to see all the harm, all the vileness and terrible cruelty of power in the USSR and, accordingly, in Russia. We are told that everything what happened and is happening in our country, it is directed exclusively against us.
      And we do not lay our lives for Russia, but for some hidden enemies of the state in The Central Committee of the party or government of the USSR, and today for some oligarchs and the same enemies in the government and parliament of the Russian Federation

      Although, all this lie of the author Alexander Staver, immediately crumbles as soon as you begin to compare separately.
      Modern Russia, this is not the USSR. These are antipode states in their structure. And consequently and in importance for the state, the ordinary, ordinary citizen.
      And Putin, this is not Stalin, even hints of comparison are ridiculous. And in general, the elite of the USSR cannot be equal to the elite of the Russian Federation. When it was hard for the country (WWII), the elite of the USSR sent their children to the front, along with everyone and together with everyone, lost their loved ones. Today's elite, their offspring sent to the fattest places and abroad, to squander the wealth captured after the destruction of the USSR.
      According to the well-known version, Peter I, returning from a trip to Shlisselburg to the Ladoga Canal and to Staraya Russa, on November 5 found a stranded boat with soldiers, sailors, women and children near Lahti, began to save them. The emperor himself stood for several hours in ice water, resulting in a cold.
      And even the famous embezzler A.D. Menshikov proved his usefulness and devotion to the Fatherland including and risking his life in the forefront with a sword, and not dual citizenship.

      PS I personally, such a cheating mixture of circumstances, personalities and eras, causes only a squeamish attitude. As if something talked with a thimble.
    4. +6
      23 March 2020 14: 53
      Quote: Silvestr
      History will judge, but winners write history. Here's a hitch

      Do you think these are those who criminally established themselves in power as winners? The hitch is that it’s impossible to defeat one’s own people. It was with the enemies of the Soviet state, namely with the "enemies of the people" that Joseph Stalin fought. What are today's rulers doing, deceiving the people, who probably believed their "good intentions and promises"? Having dragged in the early 90s the constitution that legitimized private ownership of land and mineral resources, rewriting registers, they simply placed themselves and their people in all key posts. They are not at all interested in how people live there, why 17% of the population are ranked as “middle class” with a monthly income of 000 rubles. They are worried about providing guarantees for the future of such an existence. So it turns out that now it is an honor to fight with those who have not yet died out in this country. And the most important wrestlers are not just “caressed by the authorities”, they are elevated to the rank of heroes and heroines, they are awarded titles and titles.
      Our story has not yet been completed. History is written on the "stamp", and not interpreted by concepts.
  9. +10
    23 March 2020 10: 48
    And then, with the filing of one uneducated intriguer, a commission is created (even before the XX Congress), within the framework of which a couple of hundred thousand cases are sorted out and it turns out that, for example, on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR there were "innocently convicted" ..... 0,75% (On E. Spitsyn said this in one of the videos about his book "Khrushchev Slush".
    And then time passes and you need something to reinforce the buckets of slops, right? So the commissions are being created, which on the ground, out of court, should engage in amnesty. And then we are surprised when such a clowning started with us, why tons of fakes were thrown under Alexander Yakovlev and so on. But it all started much earlier.
  10. +23
    23 March 2020 10: 51
    Is that why Putin hates Stalin? Why does Volgograd residents refuse to give their city a glorious name? Why does Putin ignore the Mausoleum, even bashfully cover it with plywood for the holidays? WHY? Probably because he doesn’t want the people to compare him with our great past leaders, since the comparison will be shameful for him.
    1. +6
      23 March 2020 11: 02
      late to drink Borjomi - Vlasov tricolor at the mausoleum, the counter-revolution won
      1. -7
        23 March 2020 11: 20
        The Vlasovites had the St. Andrew flag.
        1. +6
          23 March 2020 11: 23
          Quote: Sergej1972
          The Vlasovites had the St. Andrew flag.


          it means both, the chevron on the tunic was the Andreevsky X flag .. well, you saw him everywhere
      2. -19
        23 March 2020 11: 24
        However, Stalin was thrown out of the mausoleum, left burry. Can you tell me who did this? It seems they say that the Communists.
        1. -12
          23 March 2020 11: 38
          [Quote: the mausoleum was thrown out, left burry] [/ quote] as my neighbor said in 89
          "Lenin, with a bunch of burr ... seized power!" )))
        2. +8
          23 March 2020 15: 09
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          However, Stalin was thrown out of the mausoleum, left burry. Can you tell me who did this? It seems they say that the Communists.

          They destroyed a bloc of CMEA and VD countries, destroyed a number of RIAC developments to please the Americans, abolished the USSR (despite the results of the referendum), drafted a constitution on the western liberal liberal patterns and adopted it by an administrative majority, appropriated state, national and party (property 19 million members CPSU) property, they cooked up banks and financial organizations, as if Russia is the birthplace of the dollar ... It seems that they say that the Communists (some even have a party ticket somewhere on the table). Communist-careerists, communist-shifters ... Some communists offer an "eternal kingdom" ...
        3. +3
          23 March 2020 17: 44
          [quote = AS Ivanov.] However, Stalin was thrown out of the mausoleum, left burry. Can you tell me who did this? It seems they say that the Communists.

          No, the opportunists did it.
    2. +10
      23 March 2020 11: 43
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Is that why Putin hates Stalin?

      All the rulers who were after Stalin hated him. Such as Stalin Earth gives birth, one in a century.
      1. -1
        23 March 2020 11: 47
        Here I completely agree with you. Stalin is unique as a statesman. Neither the bald Kremlin dreamer, nor Nikita, a voluntarist, nor Lenka, were five stars; they did not stand next to him. I’m silent about the rest.
      2. -2
        24 March 2020 14: 22
        Such as Stalin Earth gives birth, one in a century.

        it’s good that 1 time, two countries will not survive for sure
      3. 0
        25 March 2020 18: 48
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Such as Stalin Earth gives birth, one in a century.

        Stalin is Bruce Lee in politics!
    3. +7
      23 March 2020 15: 00
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Is that why Putin hates Stalin?

      He is simply afraid of his glory - the glory of the Supreme, the glory of the organizer and mastermind of the military and labor victories of the Soviet people. And suddenly the people will think about why it was in the most severe times: “For the Motherland! For Stalin! ”, But in“ happy today ”one cannot hear:“ For Putin! For the Federation Council! For the State Duma! If I am destined to die from poverty or the coronavirus, consider me an edros. ”
      hi
    4. 0
      26 March 2020 12: 50
      The people vs Putin? ...
  11. +12
    23 March 2020 10: 58
    We have a personality cult today in the most hypocritical form ...
    1. AUL
      +7
      23 March 2020 14: 02
      Yes, full of you! The people believed Stalin sincerely. And now people spit. The fact that now the court servitor is trying to create a cult is a hopeless undertaking!
    2. +3
      23 March 2020 16: 40
      But the audience is funny on the site. I allowed myself to say a little bit in detail what you said in one line and minus me, and you have seven pluses. I do not envy you, but I salute ... that means, nevertheless, I am right ...
      1. -4
        23 March 2020 16: 58
        Fuethe (Phil)
        But the audience is funny on the site. I allowed myself to say a little bit in detail what you said in one line and minus me, and you have seven pluses. I do not envy you, but I salute ... that means, nevertheless, I am right ...
        Do not bother about this, this does not happen here. It happens that you collect a bunch of minuses for the most harmless comment, and collect a bunch of pluses for some kind of remark that does not have special value.
        I completely agree with you, and as much as I could, I corrected your karma a little. hi
        1. +2
          23 March 2020 17: 04
          Thank you very much. I don’t bother and for a long time I realized for myself that there are, thank God, quite a lot of really smart people with analytical thinking. I hope for them. Well, everyone has the right to judge, and the only real judge is time.
  12. +1
    23 March 2020 11: 01
    We are scared ... but don’t be scared. Is it not clear that the creation of the cult of personality is a way of political struggle with this personality. There is nothing surprising in the fact that “associates” started talking about the personality cult of Stalin.
    Similarly, Putin is now actively sculpted by the cult of personality. One program “Moscow. Kremlin. Putin ”is worth it. You just need to understand this and not be conducted 10 times on the same trick.
  13. -13
    23 March 2020 11: 02
    You are so funny)))) Of course THIS is normal! Of course, let's all! Stalin took the country ... handed over ... At the cost of what?
    1. +1
      23 March 2020 12: 44
      At the cost of untermensch like you could live!
      1. -10
        23 March 2020 16: 21
        Your veneration of this cult surprises with idiocy! Stalin ... Stalin ... For everything paid by repression and dozens of years of free labor .. Do you want that? So declare, for the sake of the country (what else) is ready to work for workdays! I’m ready to live in the dugout in winter and eat swede .... And believe me, if people like you reach 50 million, the country will advance ... Go work for free ... who doesn’t give you .. Just tremble .... Or are you from The current Zyuganov commies? So you would, led by Comrade Zyu, under Lyubimets Stalin now would immediately tower! Without any courts, your deeds ..
        1. 0
          25 March 2020 12: 37
          What is the need to bring the country and people to look for the future in the past!
        2. +2
          25 March 2020 14: 18
          Quote: 1970mk
          Your veneration of this cult surprises with idiocy! Stalin ... Stalin ... For everything paid by repression and dozens of years of free labor .. Do you want that? So declare, for the sake of the country (what else) is ready to work for workdays! I’m ready to live in the dugout in winter and eat swede .... And believe me, if people like you reach 50 million, the country will advance ... Go work for free ... who doesn’t give you .. Just tremble .... Or are you from The current Zyuganov commies? So you would, led by Comrade Zyu, under Lyubimets Stalin now would immediately tower! Without any courts, your deeds ..


          An amazing lie. Can you at least give a definition of "repression"? Or do you care so much that you are just working out the Yakovlev program?
          When one uneducated maize-worker wanted to pour a tub of slops on his own country, interesting commissions were created at his suggestion, whose task was to search for "innocent convicts". They dug. They dug their nose. Dug up 0,75% in the same Ukraine. Although they have rummaged through more than two hundred thousand cases. And so everyone was completely innocent, yes. And no one was involved in terrorism. And they did not participate in the conspiracies. The collective farmers were not terrorized. And the water was not poisoned. And they didn't spoil the grain. In general, they were all fluffy paws.

          The collective farm became the only possible way to save the dying agrarian sector inherited from the Russian Empire. Well, either it was possible to act as you like, supporters of the "free market" - "well, twenty million will die out, they did not fit into the market, it happens."

          As for the issue of "free labor", then, firstly, it simply does not correspond to reality - even the work of prisoners was paid.
          Secondly, there were a huge number of people who quite consciously went to various construction sites (and paid beautifully for this). Due to the built by them, all our local anti-Soviet, for example, live.


          But you really don’t give a damn about how it was, so what am I going to crucify here.
    2. +12
      23 March 2020 16: 44
      And you look back, in the past and see the price .... A highly developed and highly educated country. Such that so far there has been something to grab ... Who is it now? With education, not so much, healthcare ... well, better keep quiet ... then you can list a lot and in the end - there is no money, but you hold on. And where is the money then? .... That’s how you can’t see large new buildings of state scale. The bridge does not count ....
      1. -7
        23 March 2020 18: 29
        That's just Bayek about a highly educated Stalinist country is not necessary! 1941 year How about education? Read archived reports. The same Brest Fortress ... defense .... 60% of the personnel are illiterate .... 30% of the personnel do not know the Russian language! The numbers are not accurate, I don’t remember from memory, but something like this ... and EVERYWHERE IN THE ARMY! What is surprising what happened after this ... And THIS is just the real story and not speculation.
        And about the construction sites ... Yes, as many as you want, you can start now! Call-free .... What is the problem then? Then for the population, too, there was no money at all ..... now the population is buzzing, sorry, meanwhile, is no match ...
        1. Alf
          +3
          23 March 2020 20: 00
          Quote: 1970mk
          30% of the personnel do not know the Russian language!

          But now it’s enough to sit in different forums, and even here, and it becomes clear that now there are already more than 30% of semi-literate people. Moreover, if before this they were ashamed, now they are proud, As I can, I write.
          P.S. I propose the answers to such "literate" to write in their own language, let them try to understand.
          1. -4
            23 March 2020 20: 36
            I offer you the same))) Work for free for a 10-year stew? Are you a fan of Stalin? Something everyone is moving off the topic ...
            1. Alf
              +4
              23 March 2020 20: 38
              Quote: 1970mk
              Work for free for 10 years stew?

              And can you document more about free work for chowder for 10 years?
              1. -4
                23 March 2020 21: 02
                And can you document more about free work for chowder for 10 years?

                Do you doubt that under Comrade Stalin the collective farmers lived from hand to mouth .... and worked for their workdays? Or do you doubt that the workers lived in Baraki and actually worked "for food"? About 10 years - I think this period will be enough for fans like you of the actions of the Stalinist system (if you have at least 50 million) to raise the country ... to build factories and so on. Work for free! For a stew .. Why are you all moving out then? Forward!
                1. +3
                  24 March 2020 17: 02
                  You write propaganda nonsense and show complete ignorance of history.
                  It is in today's Russia that you can work and not get money, even at an object of state importance. Aw wake up, open the eyes of a hard worker!
                  1. -2
                    24 March 2020 17: 22
                    And you are just Sick! Now ... with Any new money, people are ENOUGH for millet and chicken! Stop raving! Want in that era? To live in a barrack, to receive a "stew" or to work days? So GO! Slaves are needed now! Go work for FREE AT ALL! But do not go something))) Just tremble!
                    1. +3
                      24 March 2020 18: 56
                      Horror, you have porridge in your head. People lived, worked, fell in love, gave birth to children, educated them, and you too, as I understand it, are not a product of capitalism.
                      There is no need to throw agitation here, if you have been brainwashed with all sorts of rubbish, this does not mean that I will turn mine into garbage.
                      PS. I see you are not only earned for millet! What have you done for the country?
                    2. 0
                      25 March 2020 10: 12
                      Quote: 1970mk
                      Now ... with Any foreign money, people for millet with chicken is Enough!

                      ++ you smile I already liked it! only the dream disappeared, or rather, it remained in the advertisements, but an inner conviction was added that all this was not available. It humiliates people and causes discontent, grumble. After all, people are all equal
            2. 0
              25 March 2020 10: 05
              Quote: 1970mk
              Work for free for 10 years stew?

              But do not fight for the rights of gladiators?
      2. 0
        26 March 2020 12: 58
        ... With education, not so much, healthcare ... well, better keep quiet ...
        Are education and health interconnected?
        Compare the number of cases in the "stronghold of democracy" and in Russia.
        > 30/000. ?
  14. +9
    23 March 2020 11: 02
    I remind you that the president said that week that all problems are in the October 1917 revolution, and its economic consequences for all countries ... That's right, and you thought why gasoline is expensive, and the buck is growing, and that’s all Lenin’s bastard spoiled everything Siluanova ... And Sechin ...
    1. +2
      24 March 2020 19: 00
      Is this Putin said? Well, if he said that, then Russia is definitely the end. With such a wealth of knowledge and mentality, but with unlimited power ...
      As they say, everyone is dangerous, and if he is in power then it is fatal.
    2. -1
      25 March 2020 16: 26
      Quote: Ivan Kolodin
      from so, and you thought why gasoline is expensive

      In fact, we are in 10th place in the world for the cheapness of gasoline.
  15. +17
    23 March 2020 11: 04
    Every year I am enraged by the lying meanness of the authorities at the May 9 parade ... The victory is great ... and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, no matter how. The war, as it were, won, the troops themselves moved, armed, supplied ...
    Or maybe the current supreme has nothing to do with it? The troops themselves exist ... frolic around Syria ...
    1. -1
      23 March 2020 12: 05
      Does he just give the people the death of our boys in Syria?
      To whom in our country all resources are uploaded. The people have a saying on someone else's hump to enter paradise ...
      1. -5
        23 March 2020 14: 25
        Quote: Campanella
        What gives the people the death of our boys in Syria?

        But what did the death of our military in China or Spain in the 1930s give him?
        1. +8
          23 March 2020 14: 35
          Don't you know? Stalin built an economically powerful state. What did Putin build? Paradise for oligarchs. And now he wants to write "beauty" in words into the constitution.
          And now it’s clear that his National Projects will be covered with a copper basin in the current situation.
          1. -3
            24 March 2020 11: 36
            Quote: Campanella
            Stalin built an economically powerful state.

            However, Russian people lived in it poorly, starving ... request
            Quote: Campanella
            And what did Putin build? Paradise for the oligarchs

            but somehow others live well .. hi shops are full, prices for most goods are lower than in the USSR ...
            Quote: Campanella
            And now it’s clear that his National Projects will be covered with a copper basin in the current situation.

            But how many promises of the authorities in the USSR did not come true? remember? bully
            1. +5
              24 March 2020 13: 04
              And you try to fight for 30 years, then you will understand why. Now, taking into account the peaceful situation and the Soviet stock, we are now in deep opera.
              You know, having lived in the USSR and present-day Russia, I can clearly say that diversity does not make a person’s life better. For life, you need a standard set of high quality products. And I would bring all the diversity to other forms, science, culture, human development.
              And technological progress would be closely linked with the benefits and consequences.
              As for the rest, which are not bad, you are clearly exaggerating. What are your measurements? In the parrots?
              To promise does not mean to marry, as I understand it, you are a man of his word and you keep all your promises?
              1. -2
                24 March 2020 13: 43
                Quote: Campanella
                And you try to fight for 30 years, then you will understand why.

                but why was fighting for 30 years? What did the 1917 revolution bring to us - apart from deaths, the destruction of agriculture and industry, and the coming to power of incompetent but bloody ghouls? request
                Quote: Campanella
                You know, having lived in the USSR and present-day Russia, I can clearly say that diversity does not make a person’s life better.

                I also lived in the USSR and live in the Russian Federation - I have a different conclusion ... I do not know about you, but I was tired of the race for shortages after work ... request And yet, I like to watch the world myself, and not through the eyes of Senkevich ... hi
                Quote: Campanella
                For life, you need a standard set of high quality products.

                in your opinion ... by the way, in the USSR this set was not ... request
                Quote: Campanella
                science, culture, human development.

                you are an idealist ... hi
                Quote: Campanella
                And technological progress would be closely linked with the benefits and consequences.

                who knew that the discovery of the technology for the production of chemical dyes from coal tar would lead to the creation of poisonous gases ... request
                Quote: Campanella
                As for the rest, which are not bad, you are clearly exaggerating.

                can be more specific?
                Quote: Campanella
                What are your measurements? In the parrots?

                I don’t advise arguing with me about metrology ... hi
                Quote: Campanella
                as I understand it, you are a man of his word and keep all your promises?

                1) are you so interested in my personality? I try not to talk in vain, especially to children and at work ... request
                2) The authorities of the USSR lied meaningfully - to obtain power and everything that is attached to it ... request
                1. +2
                  24 March 2020 17: 11
                  I wanted to give a detailed answer, but I decided it makes no sense. You are not a boy to change your beliefs.
                  Therefore, I will say the following, you have your own truth, I have my own. You do not accept my world, I am not interested in yours.
                  Therefore, I think that at least two worlds are correct.
                  Capitalism to you with all the goodies, and leave me socialism with all its problems.
                  1. 0
                    24 March 2020 18: 21
                    Quote: Campanella
                    and leave me socialism with all its problems.

                    One in the past ... request The trivial question is - why didn’t you defend it in 1991?
                    Quote: Campanella
                    You do not accept my world, I am not interested in yours.

                    consensus... hi
                    1. +2
                      25 March 2020 09: 13
                      I’ll tell you sedition, in 1991 I went after Yeltsin and was at the White House. Then he regretted it very much. Our naivety is political, propaganda, and of course Gorbachev's chatter very much helped the bastards seize power. The people deliberately disoriented and betrayed. All worthless people like Yakovlev AN, Gaidar, Sobchak and others.
                      As for socialism, this future is certain, and capitalism in its current form will outlive and will most likely transform into something else. A polar world is possible and likely to be two. Again, this is more consistent with the world order.
                      So do not rush to conclusions.
                      Ideas do not die.
                      1. 0
                        25 March 2020 12: 22
                        Quote: Campanella
                        I’ll tell you sedition, in 1991 I went after Yeltsin and was at the White House.

                        not surprised based on your messages ... request I was at the election headquarters of Yeltsin’s opponents in the elections to the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR .. feel
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Our political naivety, propaganda and of course Gorbachev's chatter very much helped the bastards seize power.

                        aha, it's all your fault that you didn’t want / think ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        People deliberately disoriented and betrayed. All worthless people like Yakovlev AN, Gaidar, Sobchak and others.

                        you are mistaken - the people, to put it mildly, did not like SV for the mess that was in the RSFSR ... they forgot already - a constant shortage, gray houses, drunkenness and hooliganism, teenage gangs, etc. Hopelessness was terrible - even normal books buy a problem ... i.e. not materials of the 2nd Congress or LIB's speech ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        As for socialism, this future is certain

                        experience shows that you do not analyze information well ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Ideas do not die.

                        Wow! There are always enough fools ... have you ever read the Communist Manifesto? I recommend - there everything that was in the USSR during the temporary detention facility was written in black and white ...
                      2. +1
                        25 March 2020 13: 59
                        What did you find in my posts? Is that even interesting?
                        And about the analysis in more detail, should I make work on the errors or have you already diagnosed me?
                        I didn’t want to “think” about it, perhaps, but most likely the lack of reliable information led to erroneous judgments.
                        You were in the election commission, I didn’t.
                        And all those slop that poured and poured on the head of the people are far from the truth.
                        I read the manifesto, but I don’t remember anything mentioning about the USSR and Stalin. Perhaps these are your fantasies ...
                        Shl. And for whom did you drown in the election committee "against Yeltsin" for Khasbulatov and Rutskoi? Or for Soviet power?
                      3. -1
                        25 March 2020 15: 23
                        Quote: Campanella
                        You were in the election commission, I didn’t.

                        I was at the headquarters of the candidate ... hi
                        Quote: Campanella
                        I read the manifesto, but I don’t remember anything mentioning about the USSR and Stalin. Perhaps these are your fantasies ...

                        I'm too lazy to discuss in this format - you want to dope - your right ... hi
                        Quote: Campanella
                        And for whom did you drown in the election commission "against Yeltsin" for Khasbulatov and Rutskoi? Or for Soviet power?

                        there are not 2 ways, they are noticeably larger, alas, but people tend to simplify complex issues ... feel
                      4. 0
                        25 March 2020 16: 47
                        You are fooling around! I am not going to read your thoughts if you are not able to state them.
                        But the fact that there are many ways this is a no brainer. Tested 2 ways. China is experimenting and it is not clear what will come of it. But in principle, the future lies with the social state, and not with the garbage dump for which you are drowning.
                      5. 0
                        25 March 2020 17: 40
                        Quote: Campanella
                        You are fooling around! I am not going to read your thoughts if you are not able to state them.

                        Quote: Campanella
                        I read the manifesto, but I don’t remember anything mentioning about the USSR and Stalin.

                        I politely showed you that you are fooling around - in the middle of the 19th century, when the manifesto was not written either for the IVS or the USSR ... but the ideas on which the USSR was created are outlined there ..
                        here is a quote from chapter 2:
                        "8. Equal obligation to work for all, the establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
                        9. The combination of agriculture with industry, the promotion of the gradual elimination of the distinction between town and country13.
                        10. Public and free upbringing of all children. Elimination of the factory labor of children in its modern form. Combining education with material production, etc. "
                        item 8. this is the collective farms and enslavement of workers in the factories, which was during the temporary detention facility ...
                        item 9. this is the transformation of peasants into agricultural workers - it was not Khrushchev who came up with ... request
                        item 10. this is labor reserves in temporary detention facilities ... request
                        so learn Marxism if you like socialism ... bully
                        Quote: Campanella
                        But in principle, the future lies with the social state, and not with the garbage dump for which you are drowning.

                        1) Read the constitution of the Russian Federation bully
                        2) If you liked to buy shitty sausage on coupons in the USSR - these are your problems ... request
                      6. 0
                        25 March 2020 20: 14
                        Strange you, the sarcasm about Stalin and the USSR is not clear to you, as well as the fact that the Soviet project died due to dogmatism. You persistently suggest literally following all points of the manifest. The successors of the ideas of Karl Marx and Engels creatively reinterprets ideas in accordance with realities and this is the norm of life.
                        What you are trying to prove to me, I don’t understand, probably you simply do not have good arguments in your favor.
                        My position is simple - the current government has discredited itself and this is a fact, while I am not a fan of Navalny and I understand that it is also a consequence of the regime’s weak position and its insolvency.
                        If you persistently stand on the side of the regime, you will find yourself without pants and without food in the midst of a bloody pack. The history of people like you does not teach anything, and in vain you bring historical documents here if you do not understand their essence.
                      7. 0
                        26 March 2020 11: 38
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Strange you, sarcasm about Stalin and the USSR you do not understand

                        you don’t understand the difference between text and personal conversation ... - in the test emotion is made a smiley ...
                        Quote: Campanella
                        The Soviet project died due to dogmatism.

                        Seriously? bully K remember. what did the apostates from the party line do? Try to understand - any book teaching is utopian in principle ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        You persistently suggest literally following all points of the manifest.
                        This is not me - figures of the USSR ...
                        Quote: Campanella
                        The successors of the ideas of Karl Marx and Engels creatively reinterprets ideas in accordance with realities and this is the norm of life.

                        Elsie is no secret - but what is sacred in these ideas, what needs to be developed? What drove them to you at school? bully
                        Quote: Campanella
                        the current government has discredited itself and this is a fact

                        do not share - what?
                        Quote: Campanella
                        If you persistently stand on the side of the regime, you will find yourself without pants and without food in the midst of a bloody pack.

                        and I'm not cowardly ... bully and far from being a fan of GDP, .. feel I just know how to think - this is rare in the Russian Federation and the world ... hi
                        Quote: Campanella
                        The history of people like you does not teach anything, and in vain you bring historical documents here if you do not understand their essence.

                        Not at all - I understand the essence and show you ... However - throwing beads is stupid ... crying
                      8. +2
                        26 March 2020 14: 43
                        Based on the last paragraph of your speech full of deep content, your content side as a person is clear. I can answer in a similar way with an insult, but I think it will not help.
                        With emoticons (which I honestly do not pay attention to) or without them, the meaning of your appeals is that socialism has lost, outlived itself and must leave, because you think so, without looking back at reality. But it is such that the ideas of a social, just society are alive and will live.
                        You persistently click on the origins of Marxism, I’m trying to tell you that they (ideas) are alive and adapt to modern realities, as Lenin said.
                        As for ideas, the value of Marxism is not in its sacredness, but in the heuristic meaning of ideas.
                        What you can think of is good, but the result of your thoughts is not clear.
                        What have you come to?
                        Socialism seemed meaningless to you, and what did you stop at? Imperialism, anarchism, or something of their own?
                        I see your criticism, but no suggestions? Or didn’t I hear something?
                        As I understand it, you are a supporter of "civilized" capitalism?
                      9. -2
                        26 March 2020 16: 35
                        Quote: Campanella
                        understand your meaningful side as a person.

                        you are insightful ... bully
                        Quote: Campanella
                        that the ideas of a social, just society are alive and will live.
                        ideas are one thing ... in dreams everything is always good ... however, in the vile reality, socialism turned out to be very bloody, and people there are not very satisfying ... request Several field experiments were performed - Germany, Korea, Vietnam, China - the results are similar ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        But modern realities, Lenin spoke of this.

                        VIL's ideas turned out to be wrong ... he himself admitted it ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        What you can think of is good, but the result of your thoughts is not clear.

                        he is embodied in attitudes - I am not a scholastic ... feel
                        Quote: Campanella
                        As I understand it, you are a supporter of "civilized" capitalism?

                        I am not a supporter of names, but the result - that people live well, joyfully, safely and freely ... request The best result was achieved in Scandinavia, however, they went crazy on a perverse understanding of equality, because abandoned God ... hi
                      10. +4
                        26 March 2020 17: 05
                        Is bloody socialism? Is capitalism a lamb? Is it the result of your thoughts? In my opinion, you overestimate your abilities or you have gaps in historical knowledge.
                        You are a supporter of the results. I noticed that you are not a creator, you are a consumer and your philosophy is the same. Therefore, to prove to you the importance of the idea does not make sense. I do not argue in categories of names and even more so the results.
                      11. -2
                        26 March 2020 18: 50
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Is bloody socialism?

                        Yes
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Is capitalism a lamb? Is it the result of your thoughts?

                        no, but it’s well written about him in the Manifesto ...
                        Quote: Campanella
                        you are not a creator, you are a consumer and your philosophy is the same

                        I have 31 RF patents, how many do you have? bully
                        Quote: Campanella
                        I do not argue in categories of names and even more so the results.

                        you are not capable ...
                      12. +3
                        26 March 2020 23: 19
                        An immodest question, what did you patent and when?
                        And if I tell you that I have twice as many of them as you?
                        Who is well written about in the manifesto and where does the manifesto come from? Bloody capitalism, simply by nowhere in the blood. During the second half of the 20th century, more than 50 million people died in the wars unleashed by the United States. You don’t know the champion of sausage and clothes.
                        About my abilities not for you to judge with your horizons.
                      13. +1
                        27 March 2020 12: 05
                        Quote: Campanella
                        An immodest question, what did you patent and when?

                        yes a lot of things - you want to know, contact on drugs ...
                        Quote: Campanella
                        And if I tell you that I have twice as many of them as you?

                        tell me ... feel
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Who is well written about in the manifesto and where does the manifesto come from?

                        don't want to study? your problems ... because propaganda deceives you ... hi
                        Quote: Campanella
                        capitalism, there’s just nowhere in the blood

                        we modestly recall the Gulag, the Holodomor, dispossession, the Red Terror ... and this is with us ... and then the Cultural Revolution in China or Kampuchea ... so what is there to blame for socialism?
                        Quote: Campanella
                        You don’t know the champion of sausage and clothes.

                        1) I know how many people died in the wars unleashed by the USSR and its satellites, so do not commie to stand up ... bully
                        2) As I understand it, you like to eat stuck together macaroni, dress in a quilted jacket, drink andropovka, and is treated for all diseases with aspirin .... hi Oh, fools in Russia ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        About my abilities not for you to judge with your horizons.

                        oh, pug, to know she is strong ... crying
                      14. 0
                        27 March 2020 16: 37
                        You repeated the set of propaganda cliches,
                        But do not answer in essence.
                        Emptiness may not be significant, but it can easily be snobby.
                        You do not know the person, make a diagnosis. Are you friends with your head at all? Or is it not characteristic of trolls?
                      15. 0
                        28 March 2020 16: 52
                        Quote: Campanella
                        You repeated the set of propaganda cliches,

                        you are boring ... request
                      16. 0
                        28 March 2020 19: 30
                        I already heard from you, a giant of thought!
                      17. 0
                        30 March 2020 18: 12
                        Quote: Campanella
                        giant of thought!

                        Quote: Campanella
                        You do not know the person, make a diagnosis. Are you friends with your head at all? Or is it not characteristic of trolls?

                        Quote: ser56
                        oh, pug, know she is strong.

                        bully
                      18. 0
                        30 March 2020 22: 46
                        Comparing yourself with an elephant is for you. Elephant in a china shop ...
                      19. 0
                        31 March 2020 17: 45
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Comparing yourself to an elephant is for sure

                        aha, I'm big - 188 cm and smart .... hi and what do you recognize in yourself the second character - glad .... love
                      20. 0
                        31 March 2020 22: 41
                        An elephant in a china shop ... it's not an elephant and a pug. I agree with you, you are longer!)))
                      21. 0
                        April 1 2020 16: 31
                        Quote: Campanella
                        you are longer!)))

                        it when I sleep ... and so - above ... hi
                      22. 0
                        April 1 2020 16: 36
                        Smiled)))
                      23. -2
                        25 March 2020 17: 47
                        Quote: Campanella
                        As for socialism, this future is certain, and capitalism in its current form will outlive

                        )))))) A familiar tune somewhere I already heard it. Oh yes, I remembered. Here capitalism will collapse, and we will build communism.))))) Something I do not see communism.
                        Quote: Campanella
                        I’ll tell you sedition, in 1991 I went after Yeltsin and was at the White House.

                        Here I was arguing with one comrade officer Mortir at the Military District. He came up with another excuse. There was no order, and so in the 91st he was very sorry that the ebn supporters did not shoot. Conclusion. It was necessary for him and people like him to shoot people like you.
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Possible and most likely will be two polar world

                        He is already multipolar.
                      24. +1
                        26 March 2020 14: 57
                        Well, you don’t see communism ..and I don’t see it. But socialism is alive.
                        Capitalism also does not stand still. So wait and see ... or maybe we do not have time to see.

                        Then I thought about August. I can say that if we were shot, it would probably be better, but not a fact. Gorbachev went too far through the system. And it is not a fact that the State Emergency Committee would have the intelligence to adequately get out of the situation. There was a very great mistrust of power in general. Yeltsin even won because he offered quite radical things, though it turned out to be a lie and PR, but this is a different issue.
                2. 0
                  25 March 2020 10: 01
                  Quote: ser56
                  but why was fighting for 30 years? what the 1917 revolution brought us

                  she gave the people a dream .. and Stalin smile
                  1. -2
                    25 March 2020 12: 24
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    she gave the people a dream ..

                    a dream is good, especially when hunger and getting dressed there is only a quilted jacket ... request
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    And Stalin

                    why did you like this Caucasian bandit? bully We in Siberia called him Gutalin ... feel
                    1. 0
                      25 March 2020 14: 05
                      The people have such a habit of giving nicknames. If one of the Siberians gave the nickname, this does not mean that the others took it. You are the first to report this.
                      Strange you are an analyst, I would say specifically selective.
                      1. -2
                        25 March 2020 14: 59
                        Quote: Campanella
                        The people have such a habit of giving nicknames.

                        it's not a nickname - it drove ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        You are the first to report this.

                        you just don't know much ... hi it drove him from the time of the link ...
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Strange you are an analyst, I would say specifically selective.

                        in your opinion ... let's just say that you are poorly informed and think within the framework set by propaganda ... request
                      2. 0
                        25 March 2020 15: 11
                        You can of course, all the bullshit here vtyuhivat and talk about poor information. Why did you wind up in the 50s? I'm not particularly interested in criminal slang.
                        Stalin had many nicknames, but what does all this have to do with it?
                      3. -1
                        25 March 2020 17: 14
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Why did you wind up in the 50s?

                        I am from Siberia, many have served with us, some for something, some for that ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        I'm not particularly interested in criminal slang.

                        so Stalin was a criminal - robbed banks, engaged in racket ... request
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Stalin had a lot of nicknames

                        he is not a dog, so he drove, however you want ... feel
                      4. 0
                        25 March 2020 17: 32
                        Siberian divisions were one of the strongest and most reliable in the war of 41-45. They defended the country, which then such Siberians as you sold for food and clothes imported But you can see from other Siberians ....
                      5. -1
                        25 March 2020 18: 00
                        Quote: Campanella
                        But you can see from other Siberians ....

                        there was a verbal flow of insults - you have no arguments, however, like culture ... good luck! I don’t see any reason to discuss with you ... request
                      6. 0
                        25 March 2020 20: 19
                        You just have nothing to answer, you ancestors betrayed sausage for clothes! What a discussion here .. pro-government stamps are printing on your own behalf.
                      7. 0
                        26 March 2020 11: 43
                        Quote: Campanella
                        you ancestors betrayed sausage for clothes!

                        1) by no means - this is your soviet fad ... anyone who does not agree is a traitor ... request
                        2) All the leaders of the USSR who had access to the dispensers when the people were starving or malnourished were WHO? If you don’t understand, people live now, and a good future is a fairy tale for fooling the masses like you ... request Just look - how all revolutionaries lived after 1917!
                        Quote: Campanella
                        . pro-government stamps print on your behalf.

                        modern power is not always and not in everything wrong ... request Decided to become a revolutionary? Gallop so the revolution will turn you into a beggar ... request
                      8. 0
                        26 March 2020 16: 55
                        What did I call for a revolution?
                        It is difficult to classify my completely legitimate demands on power as a call for revolution. But with your tolerance for power, you are leading the country into a revolution. Since 1991, I criticize the authorities and try to change their free interpretation of their rights and obligations. And people like you, with your phobia, feeding her swagger and cynicism and complete indifference to the problems of the people.
                        Yes, in words, Putin is simply the father of the people, but he has personally been convinced more than once that these are nothing more than words.
                      9. -1
                        26 March 2020 18: 49
                        Quote: Campanella
                        What did I call for a revolution?

                        Yes
                        Quote: Campanella
                        It is difficult to classify my completely legitimate demands on power as a call for revolution.

                        so cowardly?

                        Quote: Campanella
                        Since 1991, I have been criticizing the authorities and trying to change their free interpretation of their rights and obligations

                        you brought them to power and are responsible for this ...
                        Quote: Campanella
                        And people like you, with your phobia, feeding her swagger and cynicism and complete indifference to the problems of the people.

                        you are boring ...
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Yes, in words Putin is just a father people

                        and you think ...
                      10. +1
                        26 March 2020 23: 28
                        Imagine a quote from my calls for revolution.
                        And then your idle talk is more like a denunciation. It’s like you sent people to the camps with your denunciations, dealing with objectionable people.
                      11. -1
                        27 March 2020 12: 08
                        Quote: Campanella
                        It’s like you sent people to the camps with your denunciations, dealing with objectionable people.

                        I wrote earlier that you are cowardly ... bully
                      12. 0
                        27 March 2020 16: 38
                        Where is the link to my calls for revolution, idle talk.
                      13. +1
                        25 March 2020 17: 52
                        Quote: ser56
                        I am from Siberia, many have served with us, some for something, some for that ...

                        Do you have this from aliens? And how many "many"?
                      14. -1
                        25 March 2020 18: 01
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        Do you have this from aliens? And how many "many"?

                        oh, pug, know she is strong, since barks at an elephant .... feel
                      15. +1
                        25 March 2020 18: 09
                        Here you are all about the doctor ... Or maybe you really need to? And then megalomania she is ...
                    2. 0
                      25 March 2020 15: 10
                      Quote: ser56
                      why did you like this Caucasian bandit?

                      Dzhugashvili Joseph wrote poetry in childhood, which he published in his childhood. The child believed in goodness and beauty ....
                      Thank you for your indifference +++ smile
                      "dreaming is good, especially when hunger" Happiness is a sense of perspective, right? When there is a dream and the opportunity to take a small step towards it - isn't it wonderful ??? +++ smile
                      1. -1
                        25 March 2020 17: 15
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Dzhugashvili Joseph wrote poetry in childhood, which he published in his childhood.

                        do you know georgian
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        a dream is good especially when hunger

                        with hunger, they dream of eating ... request
                      2. 0
                        25 March 2020 18: 31
                        Well .. not original. It was published in the Chrestomathy of Georgian Literature at the beginning of the 20th century; under his authority, something was translated into Russian, therefore Georgian is not required
                        Quote: ser56
                        with hunger, they dream of eating ...

                        Didn’t you study in a Soviet school? yes there were many dreams! Ostrovsky, space, etc. .. In spite I will put you a plus sign +++ lol
                      3. 0
                        25 March 2020 18: 53
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        therefore Georgian is optional

                        poems must be read in their native language ... request
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Didn’t you study in a Soviet school?

                        studied, but did not starve ... request
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Ostrovsky, space, etc.

                        what a nonsense ... bully we had other dreams, alas, not all came true ... I didn’t understand Pavka - this is a strange type, and space in my youth was already a routine ... request
                      4. +1
                        25 March 2020 21: 22
                        Quote: ser56
                        poems must be read in their native language ...

                        and what is your own? and what does it change? Omar Khayyam and Shakespeare canceled? you disappoint me here ++
                        Quote: ser56
                        studied, but did not starve ...
                        and previously they wrote that Russia was starving +++, or maybe you're one of those .... partyocrats :?

                        Quote: ser56
                        what a delirium ... bully we had other dreams, alas, not all came true ... I didn’t understand Pavka - this is a strange type, and space in my youth was already a routine ...

                        why did they go to nuclear energy? and not fate to come up with a nuclear rocket engine? That's probably due to the fact that they did not fight for dreams and the embryo of the country of happiness was killed.
                        by tradition plus sign +++ love
                      5. 0
                        26 March 2020 11: 54
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        and what is your own?

                        And I'm Russian....
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        and what does it change? Omar Khayyam and Shakespeare canceled?

                        the authors you indicated conveyed the idea - it is easy to translate it into another language ... but the poet conveys an emotion that is tied to the language ...
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        you disappoint me here ++
                        It's your problems... request
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        or maybe you are from those same .... partyocrats :?

                        I'm in another department ... feel
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        and not fate to come up with a nuclear rocket engine?

                        I did and am doing no less interesting things ... feel and what you wanted to say is that they are doing a small nuclear power plant for space and an engine with beams ... hi
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        That's probably due to the fact that they did not fight for dreams and the embryo of the country of happiness was killed.

                        I have not so bloated eg. so that I identify with the country ... I have achieved a lot in my life, I have 4 children, so in essence I am happy ... wink
                      6. +1
                        26 March 2020 12: 45
                        Quote: ser56
                        I'm not so bloated eg
                        ++
                        but right now it will burst! such people communicate with me in search of truth! smile
                        I would like to take this opportunity to ask - is this engine that is on beams, is it shunting or can gravity be defeated by it ??
                      7. +1
                        26 March 2020 16: 26
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        is this engine which is in bunches, is it shunting or can gravity be defeated by it ??

                        no, this is for interplanetary flights ... shunting is usually electric discharge ...
                      8. 0
                        26 March 2020 20: 55
                        eternal automatic bold plus forever !!!
        2. +8
          23 March 2020 15: 57
          "....... and what did the death of our military in China or Spain in the 1930s give him?"

          Victory in the Second World War.
          1. -3
            24 March 2020 11: 37
            Quote: Marine Engineer
            Victory in the Second World War.

            and now why don’t you see the obvious? that it’s better to kill Dushmans in Syria ...
            1. 0
              24 March 2020 14: 55
              “And now why don't you see the obvious? that it’s better to kill Dushmans in Syria ... "

              I don’t see, because there is nothing “obvious” in your analogy.
              In China and Spain, the Stalinist USSR solved its state tasks while acting as the SUBJECT of world politics.
              Russia entered Syria to solve the problems of Gazprom managers (to break Erdogan into three strings of the Turkish Stream) and here our country has already become the OBJECT of foreign policy.
              After the Turk showed his friend Vladimir that he had “steel eggs” (the destruction of the Su-24), he had to abandon the original plan (taking control of the Syrian-Turkish border in order to have advantages in negotiations with the Turks on laying three strings of the Turkish stream) and for the “small price” to help the Saudis “sort out” their irreconcilable ideological adversary - ISIS, which is banned in Russia, and at this stage Russia has become a TOOL of foreign policy.
              1. -2
                24 March 2020 16: 13
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                SUBJEC

                probably this is the subject? bully
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                Russia entered Syria to solve the problems of Gazprom managers
                if not a secret, during Soviet times, what did our advisers do there? bully
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                and here our country has already become the OBJECT of someone else's policy.

                1) What is good for General Motors is good for America ...
                2) The main shareholder of Gazprom - the Russian Federation ...
                Conclusion - you are confused in words .... request
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                Turk showed friend Vladimir that he had “steel eggs”

                You do not remember the recent history well or you knowingly lie - the Turk came and bowed and apologized ... request
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                for the “small price” to help the Saudis “sort out” their irreconcilable ideological adversary - ISIS,

                Well, I have no questions, I understood the reason - spring ... wink
                1. -3
                  25 March 2020 18: 07
                  Quote: ser56
                  Well, I have no questions, I understood the reason - spring ..

                  There, a person is as versed in geopolitics as I am in ballet. As we are in the SAR, this turns out to be for Gazprom managers. And what about the USSR in Yemen, Afghanistan, Mozambique, Ethiopia, Angola is not clear. Probably for the people. It was infinitely important to us who defeated Ethiopia or Somalia. Some socialists or others. Otherwise, ordinary people in the USSR could not sleep peacefully.
                  1. +1
                    25 March 2020 18: 41
                    Quote: CSKA
                    Some socialists or others.

                    I note that the socialists were still paying them ... request
              2. -3
                25 March 2020 18: 04
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                Russia entered Syria to solve the problems of Gazprom managers (to break Erdogan into three strings of the Turkish Stream) and here our country has already become the OBJECT of foreign policy.

                Well, rash raced. While they didn’t enter the ATS, such as you whined that Libya had been merged, but now we are merging the ATS. And as they entered, they pulled on a crazy theory about Gazprom.
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                I had to abandon the original plan (taking control of the Syrian-Turkish border in order to have advantages in negotiations with the Turks on laying three threads of the Turkish stream)

                What is not theory is nonsense. You at least look at the map of the time fighting. What Makar to the border could go and even more so the Turkish stream does not generally reach the border of the SAR and Turkey. At least they would take the border, for example, and what would it change? Entering the war of the Russian Federation, on the contrary, canceled the construction of the Turkish Stream.
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                After the Turk showed his friend Vladimir that he had “steel eggs”

                Yeah, nowhere is more capital. And then they got steel from him, what did he offer negotiations?
                Just put everything upside down.
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                and for the "small price"

                What is the small price? What do you grind?
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                help the Saudis “figure out” their irreconcilable ideological adversary - ISIS

                You at least turn on your head. CA and ISIS both preach the Wahhabi religion of Islam.
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                and at this stage, Russia has become an TOOL of foreign policy.

                What horror are you? You yourself compose and believe in your nonsense. We are such an instrument that they call us everywhere in all negotiations, on any problem in the Middle East.
        3. +4
          23 March 2020 16: 50
          In Spain and China, they fought against Fascism. Yes, there these regimes were not by name, but essentially fascist ones. And in Syria? They say that against the radical Islamists. It would be nice, but in my opinion - for oil and gas transit. They didn’t want to let Qatar go to Europe, and they found a convenient occasion ... At the same time, they are doing a good deed ... So our boys, for Miler and Sechin, are laying their heads there. I’m sure they are throwing cons, well, let them ..
          1. -3
            24 March 2020 11: 39
            Quote: Fuethe
            In Spain and China, they fought against Fascism.

            and our business, how do people live there? request Did we like the "volunteers" in Chechnya?
            By the way, in October 1939 the IVS concluded an agreement on Friendship and the border with Hitler ... - what were they fighting for? hi
            Quote: Fuethe
            that our boys for Miler and Sechin put their heads there.

            better when for Karl Marx and F. Lenin? request These though they pay taxes ...
            1. +2
              24 March 2020 14: 53
              and our business, how do people live there?

              Well, Spain is still fine, but you haven’t messed up anything with China?
              By the way, in October 1939 the IVS concluded an agreement on Friendship and the border with Hitler ... - what were they fighting for?

              I read your comments - you have a very peculiar view of what the arguments of something should be.
              Moreover, "for what they fought" to this treaty, did the USSR enter the Third Reich, perhaps, so that one could consider the surrender of its positions? No, I think. What then are we talking about.
              1. -2
                24 March 2020 16: 07
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                but didn’t you mess up with China?

                It’s a pity that you don’t know history well ... our pilots fought and died in the skies of China ... by the way, even the Japanese AV sank ... hi
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                you have a very peculiar view of what the arguments of something should be.

                Thank you!
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                Moreover, "for what they fought" to this treaty,

                Trite - fought, fought, and then concluded an agreement on Friendship and the border ... request The question arises - why fought ...
                1. 0
                  24 March 2020 19: 20
                  It’s a pity that you don’t know history well ... our pilots fought and died in the skies of China ... by the way, even the Japanese AV sank ..

                  Well, do not evaluate my knowledge of history. Maybe it just allows you not to write this:
                  In Spain and China, they fought against Fascism.
                  and our business, how do people live there?

                  Well, if with Spain such a claim can be rolled in terms of the fact that the civil war and all that. With regard to China, which asked for help from the USSR in repelling the aggression of the country, which a year before joined the Anti-Comintern Pact, it no longer rolls. Since it is not involved in internal conflict.
                  Thank you!

                  did you decide that was a compliment? Well, let it be so))
                  The question arises - why fought ...

                  Except as "behind the closet" I have nothing to answer such a deep question. Sorry.
                  1. 0
                    25 March 2020 12: 01
                    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                    Well, don’t have to evaluate my knowledge of history

                    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                    Well, Spain is still fine, but you haven’t messed up anything with China?

                    understand yourself - what to write. we answer ... bully
                    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                    With regard to China, which asked for help from the USSR in repelling the aggression of the country, which a year before joined the Anti-Comintern Pact, it no longer rolls.

                    1) In China, there was a permanent internal war, and we helped the CCP with Mao and the Kuomintang ... request
                    2) Not long before that, we fought with the Kuomintang - Conflict on the CER ...
                    3) A year later, we concluded a Friendship and Border Agreement with Germany request
                    Everything looks either very cunning or stupid ... request
    2. Alf
      +1
      23 March 2020 20: 01
      Quote: Barkhan
      Or maybe the current supreme has nothing to do with it?

      But he has nothing to do with the country now. All problems are from bad boyars, but the king is good, he just does not know.
      1. +1
        23 March 2020 20: 43
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: Barkhan
        Or maybe the current supreme has nothing to do with it?

        But he has nothing to do with the country now. All problems are from bad boyars, but the king is good, he just does not know.

        All this is sad. And it’s insulting. He had the opportunity to remain a hero in history. And they will remember the shelter of the oligarchs and the person standing behind the backs of children and old people of Donbass, while they are being shot daily.
        I’m also upset that on this site they stopped talking about shelling from the ukrovermaht ...
        1. Alf
          +1
          23 March 2020 20: 46
          Quote: Barkhan
          I’m also upset that on this site they stopped talking about shelling from the ukrovermaht ...

          If we start talking about this, and not only here, but also in the media, the question will arise, but what does the wisest do to avoid this? And so we have Syria, where there are no victories, only the victorious end of the war for some reason is not visible ..
          1. +1
            23 March 2020 21: 37
            “And so we have Syria, where victories do not have numbers, only the victorious end of the war for some reason is not visible ..”

            As one does not overlook, it has already been stated three times that everyone won "take the overcoat (pea jacket) and go home."
  16. -4
    23 March 2020 11: 06
    next to Stalin Kuklachev ????
  17. +4
    23 March 2020 11: 06
    I don’t get it. It seems that the author, constantly citing Stalin as an example, had in mind the current one.
  18. +13
    23 March 2020 11: 06
    But really ... what is a "personality cult"? Perhaps, in fact, "a tribute to ... the deserved respect of a popular person"? Why is "Stalin's personality cult" heard by everyone? And what about Lenin's personality cult? Khrushchev? Brezhnev? Putin, finally? Are these "cults" ... "individuals" "popular"? Are they known among the "masses" in comparison with the personality of Stalin? So, maybe, in fact, the so-called "Stalin's personality cult" is a tribute to respect, people's love for their leader? And is the cult of personality so "harmful"? Is Mao Zedong's personality cult hindering the Chinese? Deng Xiaoping? In my opinion, hardly! But Putin's "personality cult" clearly interferes with Russia! Maybe because, unlike the "Stalinist dam" that regulates the supply of concentration of the country's power to the turbines of the historical development of Russia, Putin's "personality cult" is a log that was knocked down by a storm and blocked the stream of the country's current development !?
    1. +10
      23 March 2020 11: 11
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      But Putin's "personality cult" clearly interferes with Russia! Maybe because, unlike the "Stalinist dam" that regulates the supply of the concentration of the country's power to the turbines of Russia's historical development, Putin's "personality cult" is a log that was knocked down by a storm and blocked the stream of the country's current development !?

      Well said hi
  19. +10
    23 March 2020 11: 12
    And so for each leader, including the current president
    A cult is being created, but in comparison with I.V. Stalin, there is no personality ...
  20. +7
    23 March 2020 11: 18
    My grandmother (Kuznetsova Varvara Georgievna) was a member of the 1937 Komsomol Central Committee. As my relatives told me, of the entire Central Committee, only two were not shot - her and someone else. She, too, was then interrogated (by some kind of denunciation). I asked her about this story several times later.
    Her story was surprisingly always very boring. She was asked during interrogations - were you at this banquet? .. did you participate in that booze? .. were you in that group? .. did you hang out there? ..
    And she is an ascetic, hardworking and very principled person. To her - all this decomposition did not stick.
    By the way, the corruption of leadership that we all saw in the 80s at the lower level annoyed her.
    1. +1
      23 March 2020 12: 20
      You have a slight inaccuracy, your grandmother was a member of the Central Committee of the Komsomol in 1949, in 1937. it was not a member of the Central Committee. The composition of the Central Committee itself was approximately 100 (one hundred) people, and so many people from the composition of the Central Committee, of course, could not be shot to leave only two people alive.
      I liked your comment myself, no offense, if I corrected it.
      1. +3
        23 March 2020 12: 49
        She joined the party in 1923 (herself from 1903), in 1949 she no longer went to the Komsomol by age. In 1949 she was the chief editor of the newspaper "Bezhetskaya Pravda". How many people were shot there in the Central Committee of the Komsomol in 1937 - well, there may be a family legend.
        1. +4
          23 March 2020 12: 58
          I looked at the composition of the Central Committee of the Komsomol -1937. and in 1949, I was simply interested in how the number of the Central Committee was, it turned out to be large. So, in the composition of 1936 (namely 1936), it counted 93 (ninety-three) people.
          It is in the Central Committee of 1949 that your grandmother is listed.
          1. +4
            23 March 2020 13: 09
            Perhaps, relatives didn’t tell me that ..
            Well, during the interrogations, she told me herself. There were two denunciations of her and two times the consequence.
            The investigating authorities scrupulously checked everything and didn’t find any complaints about it ... But then, a comrade who didn’t calm down and made these two denunciations, went to the camps.
            1. +3
              23 March 2020 13: 19
              Quote: JustMe
              by 1949, she no longer went to the Komsomol by age. In 1949 she was the chief editor of the newspaper "Bezhetskaya Pravda"

              The Charter of the Komsomol at that time allowed the work of the Communists in the organs of the Central Committee of the Komsomol (to strengthen the Komsomol), they were re-accepted into the Komsomol.
            2. Alf
              +1
              23 March 2020 20: 05
              Quote: JustMe
              The investigating authorities scrupulously checked everything and didn’t find any complaints about it ... But then, a comrade who didn’t calm down and made these two denunciations, went to the camps.

              Here about these lines the current accusers of a bloody tyrant are trying not to remember.
              But the children of the scammer are now screaming loudly, calling themselves and their dad innocent victims.
        2. +2
          23 March 2020 13: 23
          Some of the members of the Komsomol Central Committee, led by Kosarev, were shot, while the other part itself took an active part in the repressions and was promoted to the party-Soviet bodies. By the way, in the Komsomol Central Committee there were many people who came out of the Komsomol age. There were people of 35-45 years old, some were under 50.
  21. +16
    23 March 2020 11: 23
    The purpose of life and the meaning of Stalin's activity is the struggle for communism.
    The communist is the defining quality of Stalin. Anti-Stalinism is the general quality of anti-communists.
    The Soviet people achieved the most significant successes during the implementation of the Leninist Party Program under the leadership of I.V. Stalin. Under Stalen, the communist nature of socialism was revealed, people of labor were convinced with their own eyes that socialism enters into everyday life and is no longer just an ideal or perspective. Stalin always called himself a pupil of Lenin and emphasized that he devoted his life to serving the cause of the working class.
    1. -11
      23 March 2020 14: 27
      Quote: Arlen
      The Soviet people achieved the most significant successes during the implementation of the Leninist Party Program under the leadership of I.V. Stalin

      aha, 4 million fists were robbed, 2 million were exiled request Then the nations began to exile ... success ... request
      1. Alf
        +2
        23 March 2020 20: 06
        Quote: ser56
        Then the nations began to exile ...

        The unfortunate Chechens and Ingush were exiled at all ...
        1. +1
          23 March 2020 20: 18
          You also remind him of the Crimean Tatars how many were called up to the KA, how many deserted, how many Germans served.
          1. Alf
            +5
            23 March 2020 20: 35
            Quote: Marine engineer
            You also remind him of the Crimean Tatars how many were called up to the KA, how many deserted, how many Germans served.

            Why injure a person, let him continue to read the Twinkle and listen to It’s from Moscow.
            1. +2
              23 March 2020 21: 40
              It's cruel.
            2. -3
              24 March 2020 11: 49
              Quote: Alf
              let him continue to read the Twinkle and listen to It’s from Moscow.

              I didn’t read or listen, it’s cabbage in your head bully
          2. -5
            24 March 2020 11: 52
            Quote: Marine Engineer
            how many deserted, how many Germans served.

            and what prevented the Soviet authorities from punishing criminals? Why exile not guilty SOVIET people? Or is this internationalism? bully They always amuse scoops with their conclusions from the 5th point ... bully
            1. +1
              24 March 2020 14: 55
              and what prevented the Soviet authorities from punishing criminals?

              Tell us how it was supposed to be implemented?
              1. -1
                24 March 2020 16: 08
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                Tell us how it was supposed to be implemented?

                according to Soviet law! By the way - there is no article on the expulsion of peoples ... request
                1. +1
                  24 March 2020 16: 31
                  according to Soviet law!

                  Sergey, I ask you about practical implementation. Please tell us how it would be implemented according to Soviet law.
                  1. -1
                    24 March 2020 18: 17
                    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                    Sergey, I ask you about practical implementation. Please tell us how it would be implemented according to Soviet law.

                    Timur - your question is, to put it mildly, strange! Just as Soviet law punished deserters and traitors in other areas of the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR and the BSSR! hi No one exiled the innocent request
                    1. +1
                      24 March 2020 19: 06
                      Just as Soviet law punished deserters and traitors in other areas of the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR and the BSSR! hi In this case, no one exiled the innocent

                      And it doesn't make you think that since in other regions of the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR and the BSSR traitors were punished with targeted punishments, then if it were possible in relation to the same Crimean Tatars, then this would also be done. And since they could not do it, then probably something did not allow it to be done. Maybe if you sort out this "something", then everything will become clear? Memories of the underground workers help a lot in this.
                      Here is a hypothetical village for you, in which if a partisan liaison turns out to be or a stray Soviet soldier is looking for his own, then they will definitely end up with the Germans. And so over and over again. And no one from the villagers is found drowned in a cesspool (in the village where my mother is from, this is what fellow villagers did to the fascist henchman). Moreover, after the departure of the Nazis, when the threat of reprisals on their part is no longer relevant, there are no "calls" to the law enforcement or state security agencies either. Whom will you punish in the village? You have no accused. And there is cooperation with the Nazis.
                      1. 0
                        25 March 2020 11: 55
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        if it were possible in relation to the same Crimean Tatars, then they would have done it too.

                        I highly recommend you repeat the subjunctive mood ... request
                        we discuss what has been done .... and this is done not against one people, but several ...
                        It’s certainly easier to send the NKVD troops and send all of them than to look specifically for the guilty ... request
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Who will you punish in the village? You have no accused. But there is cooperation with the Nazis.

                        The NKVD and the NKGB paid money for this - this is their job!
                      2. +1
                        25 March 2020 12: 13
                        I recommend you repeat the subjunctive mood.

                        And is there something wrong with him in constructing the above sentence?
                        what to look for specifically guilty ...

                        You say so confidently that you were not looking for them, that you can simply envy such confidence.
                        The NKVD and the NKGB paid money for this - this is their job!

                        Yes, at least you can get rich that it will give, they are not wizards. Here is the situation with the village described above - who will you specifically punish? Sasha, Pasha, Glasha (national specifics of names omitted)? Where do you start at least?
                      3. -1
                        25 March 2020 12: 34
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        And is there something wrong with him in constructing the above sentence?

                        opportunity, not reality ... request
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Yes, at least you can get rich that it will give, they are not wizards.

                        There is such a thing - search measures, they are commonplace and effective! 100% do not catch, but most of it is caught ... hi
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Here is the situation with the village described above - who will you specifically punish?

                        there is such a novel - Moment of truth - re-read ... Smersh's working conditions are described there ... but people worked ...
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Where do you start at least?

                        1) Classics of demagoguery ... request
                        2) I do not work in bodies, I am from another department ... hi
                      4. +1
                        25 March 2020 15: 29
                        there is such a novel - Moment of truth - re-read ... there the working conditions of Smersh are described ...

                        Oh yes, a complete analogy with the situation under discussion.
                        Here is life, not romance:
                        1942, the village of Voron, when our group contacted the residents, the paratroopers were locked up. The messenger returned to the Germans with a message - why bother us because of this, decide the question yourself. The village decided to throw money into a new house for the owner and burned down the house with our soldiers inside. There is a long list of such villages in the book "The Crimean Partisan Movement and the Tatar Question 1941-1944".
                        There is a simple fact - in the occupied territories of the Crimean Tatars in partisans and underground, there were ten times fewer representatives of this people than in the service of the occupying forces. Moreover, this is according to the data of 1944, when everything was clear with the further owner of the peninsula, but in 1942 the difference was hundreds of times. These are not my words (more precisely, not only my words), this is also in the aforementioned book. What is not a sign of loyalty? What other people can you say about the same ratio?
                        Classics of demagoguery ...

                        The classic of demagoguery is a cry for collective responsibility, as a form of violation of human rights. Its various forms existed, were practiced (moreover, they exist and are practiced) not only in the USSR. And nothing about wartime.
                      5. -1
                        25 March 2020 17: 31
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Oh yes, a complete analogy with the situation under discussion.

                        a complete analogy is not possible ... request but Bogomolov worked in the system ... request
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Here is life, not romance:

                        this is not life, but your statement ... request
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        there were ten times fewer representatives of this people than in the service of the occupying forces

                        1) and what? Is this a basis for exiling women and children? let's just say-you yourself think like a Nazi ... request There were different Krymchaks - Akhmet Khan Sultan - "In total during the war, Amet-Khan Sultan made 603 sorties (70 of them were for attacking enemy manpower and equipment), conducted 150 air battles, in which he personally shot down 30 and as part of a group of 19 enemy aircraft "
                        2) Westerners burned Khatyn ... they were exiled after the war? In the Pskov region legions from Latvians were atrocious - why didn’t they be exiled? Why such a selectivity of repression? Chechens exiled, no Latvians ...
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        What other people can you say about the same ratio?

                        Thank you - I understand everything ... you are a Nazi, you have good and bad peoples ...... request
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        The classic of demagoguery is a cry for collective responsibility, as a form of violation of human rights.

                        Isn’t that so? By the way, did you read the 1936 USSR Constitution?
                        "Article 123. Equality of citizens of the USSR, regardless of their nationality and race, in all spheres of economic, state, cultural and social and political life is an immutable law.
                        Any direct or indirect restriction of rights or, conversely, the establishment of direct or indirect advantages of citizens depending on their race and nationality, as well as any preaching of racial or national exclusiveness, or hatred and neglect, are punishable by law. "
                        Article 127. Citizens of the USSR shall be guaranteed inviolability of the person. No one may be arrested except by a court order or with the approval of a prosecutor.
                      6. +1
                        26 March 2020 09: 18
                        a complete analogy is not possible ...

                        And here we are not talking about a "complete" analogy, there is no analogy at all.
                        this is not life, but your statement ...

                        This is a statement by the head of the Special Department of the Valiulin district. You wanted investigations. Well. Residents of the village burned people.
                        So what? Is this a basis for exiling women and children?

                        Yes. Or minors had to send all to boarding schools, and adults to the highest degree or 10 years in prison? Would it suit you more? Because, for your information, even in the current Criminal Code, the actions of such villages from the example can be brought under 209 as easy as possible. And the article for banditry is still one of the examples of collective responsibility in our time.
                        Thank you - I understand everything ... you are a Nazi, you have good and bad people .....

                        Really, and where in my text is the division of peoples into good and bad?
                        Another distortion, when the opinion is brought under the fact that repression is not for actions, but for ethnicity.
                        ... why didn’t they be exiled? Why such a selectivity of repression? The Chechens were exiled, no Latvians.

                        So you decide whether you are "bloodthirsty" or so-so ..?
                        Isn’t that so? By the way, did you read the 1936 USSR Constitution?

                        Not this way. When you want to wave the constitution in one hand, it is advisable to wave the criminal code in the other hand. And with this, remember war time. The link to article 123 is what I wrote above, when the opinion is brought up under the fact that repression is not for actions, but for ethnicity.
                        Link to article 127 is without wartime. In the USA in 1942 no one bothered with court decisions on the constitutionality of the relocation of citizens of a country of Japanese origin. Two years later, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of internment, arguing that restricting the civil rights of a racial group is permissible if it is “required by public necessity”.
                      7. -1
                        26 March 2020 12: 24
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Well. Residents of the village burned people.

                        residents don’t burn, certain citizens burn ...
                        and the thing
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Head of the Special Department of the district

                        find these people ... by the way - special units were in military units ... request
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Yes.

                        what a humanist you are, God forbid you get ... request
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        it was necessary to send all to boarding schools, and adults to the highest measure or 10 years of ITL?

                        it was necessary for the perpetrators of the law - otherwise why are they at all?
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        from the example to bring under 209 is easier than the lung.

                        Seriously?
                        "A gang should be understood as an organized, stable armed group of two or more persons who have united in advance to carry out attacks on citizens or organizations. A gang can also be created to carry out one, but it requires careful preparation of an attack. The stability of a gang may be evidenced, in particular, by such signs such as the stability of its composition, close relationship between its members, the consistency of their actions, the constancy of the forms and methods of criminal activity, the duration of its existence and the number of crimes committed.
                        Source: http://stykrf.ru/209 "
                        try to prove these signs ...
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        yet one example of collective responsibility in

                        your legal illiteracy is limitless! bully Judged for participating in a gang, not living in a village or nationality ...
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        when opinion is imposed that repression is not for actions, but for ethnicity.
                        but did Krymchaks not exiled for nationality? There were no courts - re-read the GKO resolution request
                        "On January 29, 1944, the People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the USSR L.P. Beria approved the" Instruction on the procedure for the eviction of Chechens and Ingush"[23], and on January 31, the State Defense Committee issued a resolution on the deportation of Chechens and Ingush to the Kazakh and Kyrgyz SSR ["
                        We are looking for a crime in the title - there is nothing besides nationality ... request
                        "On February 24, 1944, Beria proposed to Stalin to evict the Balkars, and on February 26, he issued an order on the NKVD" On measures to evict the Balkar population from the KB of the ASSR "
                        same...

                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        are you "bloodthirsty" or so-so ..?

                        those. could not answer the difference? bully
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        In the USA at 19

                        1) why are you all of us palming us? they are purple to me ...
                        2) And what did the USSR Supreme Council decide? he rehabilitated the exiled, so all the organizers of the link are criminals ... request
                        "The Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR in its Decree No. 493 of September 5, 1967" On citizens of Tatar nationality who lived in Crimea "admitted that" after the liberation of Crimea from Nazi occupation in 1944, the facts of active cooperation with the German invaders of a certain part of the Tatars living in Crimea were unreasonably assigned to the entire Tatar population Crimea "[9]. "
                        and what happens? you defend the Stalinist criminals convicted of the USSR Armed Forces ... request
                      8. 0
                        26 March 2020 16: 30
                        By the way - special units were in military units ...

                        And?
                        Seriously?

                        Seriously. And then it will be clear why
                        try to prove these signs ...

                        Do words like "can" and "in particular" in the explanation of "sustainability" mean anything to you? This is only a criterion that determines the level of threat to society from the gang, more or less dangerous, which is important when passing sentences.
                        There is such a resolution of the plenum of the RF Armed Forces "On the practice of the courts' application of legislation on liability for banditry" (In connection with the issues arising from the courts when applying the legislation providing for liability for banditry). And it has:
                        12. Article 209 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation does not provide, as an obligatory element in the composition of banditry, any specific goals of attacks carried out by an armed gang.
                        10. In accordance with Part 2 of Article 209 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, such persons who qualify as participating in the attack and who are not members of the gang recognize that they are participating in a crime committed by the gang should be qualified as banditry.
                        The actions of persons who were not members of the gang and did not participate in the attacks committed by it, but who assisted the gang in its criminal activities, should be qualified according to Article 33 and the corresponding part of Article 209 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
                        9. Participation in a gang is not only a direct participation in the attacks it carries out, but also the gang members take other active actions aimed at financing it, providing weapons, vehicles, finding objects for attack, etc.
                        These three points are enough to bring all villagers under the article on banditry, where the village's "self-defense squad" falls under the "organized, stable armed group of two or more persons", and all the remaining residents under "persons who are not members of the gang, realize who are taking part in a crime committed by the gang. " (You can start telling that by setting up a round-the-clock watch around the house, agreeing to pay for a new house, and then collecting combustible materials from their yards, which they laid on and set on fire, three hundred people did not realize what they were participating in).
                        Judged for participating in a gang, not living in a village or nationality ...

                        Read above. In order to sit down for banditry, it is not necessary to participate, it is enough indirect intent (the person was aware of the social danger of actions (inaction), foresaw the possibility of socially dangerous consequences, did not want to, but consciously allowed these consequences or was indifferent to them).
                        Did Krymchaks not exiled for nationality?

                        no. And this can be understood if only by the fact that not only were they deported from Crimea. If different GKO decrees refer to different nationalities or citizenship, but at the same time the reason is the same for all nationalities, then it is obvious that the reason is not the nationalities.
                        We are looking for a crime in the name - there is nothing besides nationality

                        And the crime should be in the name of the instructions?!?!
                        those. could not answer the difference?

                        didn't see the point
                        why are you all of us palming us? they are purple to me ...

                        Because you consider what happened in 1944 as something "unparalleled in the world" or defying explanation, except as "tyranny of ghouls in power"
                        "The Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR ... 1967 .... recognized

                        After 20 years, it is very easy to recognize something.
                        you defend the Stalinist criminals convicted of the USSR Armed Forces.

                        What kind of kindergarten level manipulation? For others, save them.
                      9. 0
                        26 March 2020 18: 47
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        And?

                        corny - your source is in doubt ...
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        These three points are enough to bring all the villagers to an article on banditry,

                        Hmm ... you have self-prophecy ... well, this special agent did not disappoint? Is laziness interfering? vodka, women?
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Read above.

                        your self-prop? bully
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        but consciously allowed these consequences or did not care about them)

                        it needs to be proved ... children too?
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        And the crime should be in the name of the instructions?!?!

                        want to dope - your right ...
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        didn't see the point

                        were not able to ...
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Because you consider what happened in 1944 as something "unparalleled in the world"

                        in the world there was an internment of people by nationality of the enemy (Germans, Japanese), but children were not exiled - this is a USSR chip ....
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        After 20 years, it is very easy to recognize something.

                        Think it's easy to take on?
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        What kind of kindergarten level manipulation?

                        it is your level ...
        2. -5
          24 March 2020 11: 48
          Quote: Alf
          The unfortunate Chechens and Ingush were exiled at all ...

          as I understand it - women and children are the main enemies ...
    2. +6
      23 March 2020 15: 25
      Quote: Arlen
      The purpose of life and the meaning of Stalin's activity is the struggle for communism.

      Rather, the goal of Stalin's life is the creation of a socialist workers and peasants state with highly developed industry and agriculture. It was when fulfilling these goals that it was revealed that even the close circle nurtured some other plans and images of statehood. Have we not been convinced of this after the death of the IVS? Is it not after him that the dollar began to be introduced into the economy of the USSR and somehow looked differently at the Bretton Woods agreement?
      I was struck by today's news about the spread of coronavirus. The main distribution priorities: USA, GB, Italy, China, Israel ... Not a word about the state of affairs in the CIS countries, or the union state. This is all rot, all hypocrisy, all true concern ...
      1. +11
        23 March 2020 15: 30
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Not a word about the state of affairs in the CIS countries, or the union state. This is all rot, all hypocrisy, all true concern ...

        Licimer ... Licimer extends everywhere. political farce everywhere and in everything. alas, it cannot be otherwise in an oligarchic-clan-capitalist state.
      2. +3
        23 March 2020 15: 54
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Rather, the goal of Stalin's life is the creation of a socialist workers and peasants state with highly developed industry and agriculture.

        He was a realist. And he perfectly understood that triune tasks are not empty words.
      3. Alf
        -1
        23 March 2020 20: 07
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Not a word about the state of affairs in the CIS countries, or the union state.

        The main thing is to send doctors to Italy, this is more important.
    3. -7
      23 March 2020 18: 41
      Communism is Stalin's work for free?
  22. +4
    23 March 2020 11: 23
    Often had to read the Soviet periodicals of the Stalin era. Hand on heart, it should be recognized that with the praise of the leader was still too much.
    1. +1
      23 March 2020 17: 40
      Quote: Sergej1972
      Hand on heart, it should be recognized that with the praise of the leader was still too much.

      You know, perhaps with the praise of the leader there was a bust, but his merits were great. The praise of the leader who has appointed himself for life is ridiculous, whose merits against the background of years of being in power are simply miserable. After the WWII, after the intervention and the civil war with a ruined economy, Russia was able to, achieve, defeat, rebuild and build without electricity, while another country, after so many years of creation, was barbarously destroyed in the political system and in terms of economic ties, demoralized by hyperinflation and the impoverishment of the population, and at the same time did not even achieve the fact that the people working in it were spared from poverty. In addition to the shame of sovereignty, she added the shame of rewarding the nouveau riche with the titles of heroes of labor ...
      That, really, is a bust.
  23. +3
    23 March 2020 11: 28
    under Stalin there were few shops, now there are many. Under Stalin, the word consumer would have meant a person useless for society, now it is normal to treat Patriotism from the "consumer's point of view" wassat
    1. -6
      23 March 2020 14: 28
      Quote: aybolyt678
      in Stalin there were few stores, now there are many

      and there were always a lot of fools in Russia ... request
      1. +4
        23 March 2020 14: 30
        Quote: ser56
        there have always been many fools in Russia

        In Russia, there was always enough work, there were always not enough hands, and now ???
        1. -9
          23 March 2020 14: 33
          Quote: aybolyt678
          In Russia, there was always enough work, there were always not enough hands, and now ???

          there has always been unemployment in Russia ... request If you are talking about the RSFSR, then there people didn’t want to work from under a stick or for a pittance, hence it wasn’t enough ...
          1. +9
            23 March 2020 14: 39
            Quote: ser56
            If you are talking about the RSFSR, then there people didn’t want to work from under a stick or for a pittance, hence it wasn’t enough ...

            in 1982, he got a job as a handyman with the lowest salary of 3p 15 kopecks a day, they allocated me a room in a dormitory and told me to get married in order to queue for housing after 7 years. A month later, they transferred to piecework, it turned out almost 280 a month. At the cost of lunch with a glass of sour cream at 82 kopecks, it was very good, I entered the university a year later and didn’t refuse anything to myself ... So you don’t sing about pennies, everything was fine
            1. -8
              23 March 2020 14: 44
              Quote: aybolyt678
              in 1982, got a job as a handyman

              had internship at Novovoronezh NPP, unit 5 ... request
              Quote: aybolyt678
              and said marry h

              and I got married when I met my beloved ... feel
              Quote: aybolyt678
              the cost of lunch with a glass of sour cream at 82 kopecks

              and I drank sour cream in those days, now I eat with a spoon ... feel
              Quote: aybolyt678
              So don’t sing about pennies, everything was fine

              we have different needs ... request
              1. +3
                23 March 2020 14: 48
                Quote: ser56
                we have different needs ...

                I have met my beloved 4 times in my life, the last time in 40 years, two children. smile but this does not apply to the topic.
                are you a consumer what is surprising, because the needs are endless (L.I. Brezhnev) smile hi
                1. -1
                  24 March 2020 11: 55
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  two children

                  I have four ... wink
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  are you a consumer

                  Naturally - I do not live in holy air ... request
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  what is surprising, because the needs are endless (

                  there are quite working mechanisms from limitations - people are both rational and mortal ... request
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  L.I. Brezhnev

                  I still relate to him well - a rare case in the history of the country - he himself lived and did not interfere with the people ... drinks
                  1. 0
                    24 March 2020 17: 19
                    Quote: ser56
                    still treat him well

                    plus to you! ++
                    1. 0
                      24 March 2020 18: 24
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      plus to you! ++

                      you're funny, seriously believe. What are your + or - I'm curious? bully
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                      2. 0
                        25 March 2020 09: 51
                        Quote: ser56
                        you're funny, seriously believe. What are your + or - I'm curious?

                        people often communicate in order to check their own opinions about themselves ... therefore, plus sign + one more smile
      2. Alf
        +2
        23 March 2020 20: 08
        Quote: ser56
        Quote: aybolyt678
        in Stalin there were few stores, now there are many

        and there were always a lot of fools in Russia ... request

        You know better...
        1. -5
          24 March 2020 11: 56
          Quote: Alf
          You know better...

          aha, look at your writings and similar ones to you - become sad ... nothing fools life teaches ... request
    2. +9
      23 March 2020 15: 29
      Quote: aybolyt678
      Under Stalin, the word consumer

      Under Stalin, there was a word: "layman", which denoted people with a passive lifestyle and philistine (consumer-household) views.
      1. -5
        24 March 2020 11: 57
        Quote: ROSS 42
        and philistine (consumer) views.

        That is why with the IVS, dispensers were created for the nomenclature, special houses, cottages and rest houses ...
        Salary was given in packages ... bully
        1. +4
          24 March 2020 12: 28
          Quote: ser56
          That is why with the IVS, dispensers were created for the nomenclature, special houses, cottages and rest houses ...

          However, the Soviet benefits pale against the background of today's privileges. The state houses of the Politburo members are modest huts against the backdrop of the palaces of the current power and business elite. The former owners of life drove the Volga, Chaikas and ZILakhs, the current ones order the best foreign limousines (up to Bentley and Maybach). Elite Aviapark - not only the native Tu and Il, but also fashionable "Falcons" and "Gulf Stream". Further on the list - all the same special clinics (which does not exclude the possibility of treating sores in the best Western medical centers), special sanatoriums, special services at airports, special escorts on the roads (option - a flasher on the roof) ...

          According to AIF experts, only federal officials have benefits for 1 million rubles. in year! They are trying to keep up with them in the regions: almost each has its own "Rublevka", its own country residences, its own privileges on the roads and in "social services". And what luxurious mansions other republics and regions contain in Moscow for work and rest of the officials on business! Some Varangians "planted in the region" even preferred to appear in the entrusted region less often, ruling it from Moscow, and even from London. One of the Ural governors, for example, was more often seen in the United Arab Emirates ... But perhaps the main privilege of the current VIPs is to almost openly do business "without interrupting production." did not have.
          1. -3
            24 March 2020 12: 36
            Quote: ROSS 42
            However, Soviet goods fade against the backdrop of today's privileges.

            however, now no one is lying about equality, and then he and the party card built the bright tomorrow like that ... request
            Quote: ROSS 42
            The former owners of life drove Volga, Chaika and ZILakh, the current owners order the best foreign limousines (up to Bentley and Maybach)

            in Soviet times, traveled at best in Lada, comparable to modern cars with the people? as the number of cars ...
            Quote: ROSS 42
            There wasn’t exactly anything among the ministers and deputies among the ministers and deputies in Soviet times.

            and what good is it? A person who is not able to earn money himself and will not help others ... request
  24. +2
    23 March 2020 11: 37
    [quote = AS Ivanov.] However, Stalin was thrown out of the mausoleum, left burry. Can you tell me who did this? It seems they say that the Communists.

    No. The opportunists.
    1. +4
      23 March 2020 13: 53
      Quote: Marine Engineer
      However, Stalin was thrown out of the mausoleum, It seems they say that the Communists.

      no! Radishes .. Outside red inside white laughing
  25. +7
    23 March 2020 11: 43
    Khrushchev and his accomplices started all this because they were mortally afraid of him even dead, their hands were covered in blood, this despite the fact that Stalin began to possess all the full power only from the end of the 38th, and all this was still from "our" partners ". In their so-called. centers financed by various special services and the minds of "analysts" were born "legends" and millions of innocent victims of the GULAG, with the help of "fighters against the regime and the conscience of the nation" all kinds of Solzhenitsyn and Suvorovs, picked up by our poor liberals. It is not clear why, even out of a sense of self-preservation, our leading boyar class admits on the central TV channels and in their statements by the top officials of the state, frenzied anti-Soviet and Russophobic propaganda, distortion of facts and rewriting of history, in words advocating something other than opposing themselves to the people. In fact, representing the same so-called. leadership, which has already been in our history more than once, during the time of turmoil and the Provisional Government, realizing this wretched insignificance and temporality, are trying, as in Khrushchev's times, to "hide behind" the great names and deeds of their ancestors. But forgetting or rather deliberately not noticing that our grandfathers and fathers, like the guarantor's father, by the way, died in the snow and ice for Stalin, for the Motherland.
    1. Alf
      +2
      23 March 2020 20: 11
      Quote: seacap
      Khrushchev and his accomplices started all this because they were mortally afraid of him even dead,

  26. +6
    23 March 2020 11: 44
    I recently accidentally saw a new feature film called "Corporal". Our Mosfilm film about the smallest soldier of the Great Patriotic War.

    For me it was a revelation. The smallest soldier, or rather, a corporal, by the end of the war, awarded in 1943 the medal "For Military Merit" was ... born in 1936. And he fought from the very beginning of the war!

    The youngest son of the regiment, awarded a military award, was probably the six-year-old Sergey Aleshkov, a pupil of the 142nd Guards Rifle Regiment of the 47th Guards Rifle Division. September 8, 1942 he was picked up by a regiment in the Ulyanovsk region then Oryol region. According to some reports, he saved a commander near Stalingrad, calling for help under fire and taking part in digging up a covered dugout with a regiment commander and several officers. November 18, 1942 was wounded. By Order No. 013 of April 26, 1943 he was awarded the medal "For Military Merit." In accordance with this order he was awarded for the fact that "his cheerfulness ... instilled vigor and confidence in victory"


    Parents were executed for contact with the partisans, the scouts of the 142nd Guards Rifle Regiment saw the child wandering through the forest, the child remained in the regiment, and later the commander of the regiment, Major Vorobyov, adopted him.
    When the bomb fell into the dugout in which Voroyev was and heaped him up, the boy ran for help, the major was dug up.
    Near Stalingrad, the child was injured, and after treatment, in 1943, his adoptive father sent him to the Suvorov School, later he graduated from the Kharkov Law Institute.
    After the war, Sergei Aleshkov worked for many years as a prosecutor in Chelyabinsk; a veteran died in 1990.
    And yet, in my opinion, children have no place in the war.
    hi
    1. +3
      23 March 2020 14: 00
      The film was made about this boy. Even a photo is exactly what the film faces. True, the names of the regiment com were changed to Kuznetsov, and Sergei to Shishkin. But in the end they added a little bit about their future life. He graduated from the Suvorov School and worked in the criminal investigation department
  27. +11
    23 March 2020 11: 56
    A special indicator is the attitude of ordinary people to the deceased ruler. The death of Lenin and Stalin - Woe to the people. And this is not ostentatious whoop. It was. And the death of subsequent ???
    1. +3
      23 March 2020 13: 25
      In fairness, I saw a lot of people saddened by the death of Brezhnev.
      1. 0
        23 March 2020 18: 44
        I remember now .... I was 11 years old .... running down the street suddenly a neighbor from the entrance runs out in tears and yells "what will happen to us now")))))
    2. +5
      23 March 2020 13: 56
      Quote: Michael55
      It was. And the death of subsequent ???

      the long-awaited ... especially Mr. Gorbi
  28. +7
    23 March 2020 11: 57
    Khrushchev and his accomplices started all this because they were mortally afraid of him even dead, their hands were covered in blood up to the elbows, this despite the fact that Stalin began to possess all the full power only from the end of the 38th, and all this was still from "our" partners ". In their so-called. centers financed by various special services and the minds of "analysts" were born "legends" and millions of innocent victims of the GULAG, with the help of "fighters against the regime and the conscience of the nation" all kinds of Solzhenitsyn and Suvorovs, picked up by our poor liberals. It is not clear why, even out of a sense of self-preservation, our leading boyar class admits on the central TV channels and in their statements by the top officials of the state, frenzied anti-Soviet and Russophobic propaganda, distortion of facts and rewriting of history, in words advocating something other than opposing themselves to the people. In fact, representing the same so-called. the leadership, which has already been in our history more than once, during the times of turmoil and the Provisional Government, realizing this wretched insignificance and temporality, are trying, as in Khrushchev's times, to "hide behind" the great names and deeds of their ancestors. But forgetting or rather deliberately not noticing that our grandfathers and fathers, like the guarantor's father, by the way, died on the snow and ice for Stalin, for the Motherland. Moreover, surrounded by a "tyrant" any surname was called a cult PERSONALITY, you can write a book about everyone, so what kind of personality was there? All of them are remembered, all their great deeds are still known, and, moreover, many not only in our country, but who even now remember the ministers of the "thaw," Gorby and even Yeltsin, with the exception of a few odious personalities, in an extremely negative way, as they know And they remember Judas for thousands of years.
  29. +11
    23 March 2020 11: 58
    All sane people have long understood why this historical hysteria is needed. People should be optimistic about the current lawlessness of the authorities, and that's all. If you remove your glasses and stop and look around it turns out that the king is naked!
  30. +8
    23 March 2020 12: 39
    To the builders of Komsomolsk-on-Amur?
    My mother-in-law's father was the first builder of Komsomolsk-on-Amur. And in our city they did not hesitate to open the Marshalov Alley which was headed by the bust of I.V. Stalin.
  31. 0
    23 March 2020 12: 40
    Thank. Good article. Right!
  32. +7
    23 March 2020 12: 45
    If they say about I. Stalin and his rule the Cult of Personality, then what about Putin’s rule is a stump of personality?
    1. +8
      23 March 2020 14: 25
      Stalin's Cult of Personality
      Putin's - Hypocrisy of the Person
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  34. +13
    23 March 2020 12: 59
    There was a cult of personality, but there was a personality!
    (M.A.Sholokhov)

    Stalin took over from Lenin the country destroyed by the civil war, and handed over to his descendants, despite the total destruction from the war and the German occupation, a world power with an atomic bomb. A power that half of the world admired and the other half feared. But everyone respected. Even the pathological anti-communist and clinical Russophobe G. Truman would never have thought of taking away Soviet diplomatic property. Because "an answer would have arrived." And now they have taken away what? Both the Foreign Ministry and the Kremlin have wiped out. As in a joke: "Come on in Washington - no, there are ... children. And in New York - no, there is ... a villa. Well then, let's go around Voronezh. There certainly aren't ours." Because of this, few people are afraid of today's Russia and even less respect. It's a shame.
  35. -2
    23 March 2020 13: 08
    Renaming is rather a tradition of those times. cities were named after people always and everywhere. Washington, Constanta, Hamilton, Friedrichsaw, Sherbrooke ...

    It is necessary to understand, but it seems to me that these cities were laid down under these names, although it may not be so.
    Personally, I am not a supporter of renaming cities and I see at least two reasons for this:
    1. Gap template. Where was born V.I. Lenin? In Simbirsk. And show me Simbirsk on the map of the Russian Federation, please. Uh, it's Ulyanovsk now. That is, the city of Simbirsk is not at all. Bredyatina.
    2. The direct consequence of paragraph 1 is a violation of the integrity of the historical canvas, which is bad “like”, because history cannot be good or bad, it is what it is and there is no need to comb it in the current political situation - nothing good this will not work. That is why I am against the renaming of Metro stations, massively carried out in the 90s - it is impossible to bury the Soviet past, no matter how hard you try.
    And yet - there is something servile in the renaming of cities by the names of political figures. It seems to have been "decided by the whole world", but the situation has changed a bit - "put everything in the ass." Not good.
    Sometimes, however, it is possible and necessary to rename a city, especially if significant historical events critical to the country have happened in its vicinity - this is me at the expense of renaming Volgograd to Stalingrad, if that.
    But there was a cult. Such a good one, terry, and I think that for the country he was more likely in the “minus” rather than the “plus”.
    I think so.
  36. +3
    23 March 2020 13: 13
    Quote: DMB 75
    There was a great country, I know that for sure. And now? Is there a personality cult (who is the season), only the country is completely different in terms of economic and social development from the USSR.

    But who will go on the attack with the cry "for Putin"?
  37. -12
    23 March 2020 14: 19
    "To the thousands of our very grandparents who abandoned their well-fed life in cities and rushed somewhere to Siberia, the Far East, beyond the Arctic Circle to build, produce, pull oil and gas pipelines? .."
    alas, but most did not go of their own accord, but under guard, especially with an IVS ... request
    as for me, both grandfathers traveled like that ... feel
    1. Alf
      +2
      23 March 2020 20: 28
      Quote: ser56
      as for me, both grandfathers traveled like that ...

      Request a case, now it is possible, and show a photo with a sentence for what. By the way, were they rehabilitated?
      At the Kuznetsov factory, where I work, six months ago there was an article in the factory newspaper about worker NN with excerpts from his diary. So, in 46 this comrade was arrested and given a term for counterfeiting food ration cards (let me remind you that the 46th year was not the most well-fed). A couple of weeks ago there was another article in the newspaper about this worker and there was again mention of his arrest. But! The reason for the arrest magically disappeared from the article. Now such an accuser will read, and especially a representative of the Next generation, and will say, “Here, in the time of the bloody tyrant, they were imprisoned for nothing.
      1. 0
        23 March 2020 21: 59
        Quote: ser56
        “As for me, both grandfathers traveled like that ...”

        It is a pity that we do not have a law under which, if the descendants officially declare that their relatives were illegally repressed, then anyone could request these files in the archive and see if this statement is true. It was then that it became clear who and for what went under escort.
        1. Alf
          0
          23 March 2020 22: 04
          Quote: Marine Engineer
          It is a pity that we do not have a law under which, if the descendants officially declare that their relatives were illegally repressed, then anyone could request these files in the archive and see if this statement is true.

          I don’t know about the law, but already how many times relatives of the repressed sent requests and were given information on the case.
          1. 0
            23 March 2020 23: 00
            I'm talking about something else. If a relative illegally (as he thinks) of the repressed officially (publicly) stated this (video, print media, electronic recording), then ANY interested person could get acquainted with the case of the “illegally” repressed. I suppose in this case the stories about grandparents who had "illegally" served in the camps under temporary detention facilities would have decreased by an order of magnitude.
      2. -2
        24 March 2020 12: 04
        Quote: Alf
        By the way, were they rehabilitated?

        they didn’t live, they died during the Soviet Union .... mother was rehabilitated - she was a terrible enemy of the Soviet regime - from birth to 12 years she was under commandant's office .... think about it if you can .. request
        Quote: Alf
        At the Kuznetsov factory, where I work

        Been to work .... feel
        Quote: Alf
        and wrote out a term for fake grocery cards

        and here they published a note by the prosecutor about how Zaltsman in Chelyabinsk stole tons of food from workers and didn’t suffer for it ... request
        Quote: Alf
        in the days of the bloody tyrant they planted him for no reason.

        but not everyone was imprisoned - there was selective "justice" request But the problem is that now you can appeal by law, and then only ask famous people to intercede ... do you catch the difference?
        Quote: Alf
        and show a photo with a sentence for what.
        and you don’t take much on yourself, a cat lover? laughing
        1. Alf
          0
          24 March 2020 20: 44
          Quote: ser56
          Now you can appeal by law,

          It is possible if the lawyer Kucherena or Resnick.
          Quote: ser56
          Quote: Alf
          and show a photo with a sentence for what.
          and you don’t take much on yourself, a cat lover?

          Apparently, there is something to hide ..
          1. -1
            25 March 2020 12: 15
            Quote: Alf
            It is possible if the lawyer Kucherena or Resnick.

            you are mistaken ... an ordinary qualified lawyer costs from 5000 per day ...
            Quote: Alf
            Apparently, there is something to hide ..

            usually people judge by themselves - you are probably latent ... request Help do not lay out? feel
          2. +1
            25 March 2020 17: 02
            "Apparently, there is something to hide ..."

            I believe colleague Alf, you're right.
  38. +3
    23 March 2020 14: 42
    In general, the concept of a personality cult was introduced by political pygmy, mediocrity, and generally a scoundrel in his human qualities N.S. Khrushchev. The political platform of the Trotskyist, everything else is a thirst for power .... education and mind is not burdened
    1. -4
      24 March 2020 12: 05
      Quote: Jarserge
      introduced political pygmy, mediocrity and generally a scoundrel in his human qualities N.S. Khrushchev.

      you forgot to note - which the IVS itself raised to the heights of power ... request
      1. +1
        24 March 2020 13: 06
        And he personally destroyed "the bell tower too!"
        1. -2
          24 March 2020 13: 47
          Quote: Jarserge
          And he personally destroyed "the bell tower too!"

          I understand that in fact you have nothing to answer? bully This is understandable - it is difficult to deny that the "genius" Stalin could not understand Khrushchev request Then the conclusion follows - maybe the IVS is not so brilliant? bully
          1. +2
            24 March 2020 16: 01
            Well, finally, you asked a question, otherwise I thought it was a sinful thing that you came out of idleness to troll. Why did Stalin have to "deal" with Khrushchev? Were there any objective prerequisites? Or have you warned I.V. Stalin that Khrushchev was a "bad boy" and he didn't "figure it out"?
            1. -3
              24 March 2020 16: 04
              Quote: Jarserge
              Why did Stalin have to "deal" with Khrushchev?

              Quote: Jarserge
              In general, the concept of the cult of personality was introduced by political pygmy, mediocrity and generally a scoundrel in his human qualities N.S. Khrushchev

              you have a funny way of thinking ... bully
              Quote: Jarserge
              Or have you warned I.V. Stalin that Khrushchev was a "bad boy" and he didn't "figure it out"?

              spring, you would beware .... hi
  39. +10
    23 March 2020 14: 54
    If Stalin could come to life, he would probably say this:
    "How these pygmies, these nonentities and products of sycophancy, betrayal and opportunism can judge us, the great Soviet people ..."
  40. -8
    23 March 2020 14: 55
    Putin and Stalin are the greatest leaders in the history of not only Russia, but of all mankind
    1. Alf
      +1
      23 March 2020 20: 30
      Quote: Imperial Technocrat
      Putin and Stalin are the greatest leaders in the history of not only Russia, but of all mankind

      Do not align the butt and finger. Stalin was known and respected throughout the world, even Hitler spoke favorably about him, and who in the world is talking positively about Putin now?
      1. -3
        24 March 2020 12: 06
        Quote: Alf
        even Hitler spoke favorably about him,

        and why is Hitler's opinion so important to the Stalinists? feel
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  42. +6
    23 March 2020 15: 09
    To create a cult, you need a person, how lucky my country was that we had such a person, and even of such a planetary scale that she is known and remembered in every country, in all corners of the planet, even in 70 years, which of the present will be so to remember in 2090, at least somewhere? I do not argue, Gorby, Yeltsin and Co., today's "gray" mass of "Newboyars" will remain in the memory of the people for a long time, along with Godunov and False Dmitry, other non-names from the time of troubles.
  43. -8
    23 March 2020 15: 20
    All is correct. Stalin, Putin, like many others in the history of the world, Worthy and Great people of their time and people.
    1. +3
      23 March 2020 16: 11
      Stalin has a real cult of personality, proven over decades. And already during his reign, Putin had to create a huge "army" of those who, for money, create the illusion of his popularity among the people with their main methodology that Putin is better than Yeltsin, worse than that for the Russian people was only Hitler. And as soon as Putin stops being the leader of the State, he will be instantly forgotten.
      1. -3
        24 March 2020 04: 06
        The illusion of popularity? Oh well. The most useful thing is that everyone who wants to think only about Putin, ignoring, not noticing and directly denying the main processes. Well, let them arrive in this romantic confidence.
        1. +3
          24 March 2020 06: 55
          The "main processes" of Putin's 20 years are a graph of the rise and fall of world prices for the export of natural resources. When prices rose, the Russian economy grew, demographics improved, and Putin and his praises attributed this to Putin's achievements, when prices fell, the economy fell, demographics worsened, and Putin and his praisers cowardly began to blame the Soviet communists, Yeltsin, for this. , Hitler, West.
          1. -2
            24 March 2020 08: 13
            Please please. I will not enter into the discussion. As previously wrote happiness in confidence. In fact, an erroneous judgment from the opposing party (naturally speaking about things wider than our dialogue) is good, since it gives rise to an incorrect analysis and, as a result, a loss in actions.
    2. Alf
      +2
      23 March 2020 20: 31
      Quote: GEORGISEL
      All is correct. Stalin, Putin, like many others in the history of the world, Worthy and Great people of their time and people.

      First Yes
      Second-...
  44. +9
    23 March 2020 16: 12
    We are often accused of not being able to save the USSR. This is bitter. But we have to realize. Over time, we became fewer Soviet people. And many stopped calling themselves Soviet people altogether. But nevertheless, the country continued to hold on to our work. Those who call the people freeloaders, probably, did not hold anything heavier than a glass. These people gave up. strict controllers of products, not for a bottle, but for high quality. It was as difficult to obtain a "quality mark" as it is now to enter the State Duma. And when will only our time stop humiliating?
  45. -8
    23 March 2020 16: 18
    Sheep always needs a shepherd ...
    1. +2
      24 March 2020 04: 02
      AND? What is the problem? The fact that you replaced the word state with the word herd and immediately stood out?
  46. -7
    23 March 2020 16: 20
    Maybe it's enough to rely on "the leaders"?
    It is time to live your own mind - and not hesitate along with party politics.
  47. +1
    23 March 2020 18: 23
    Quote: AS Ivanov.
    AS Ivanov. (Andrey) Today, 12:25 NEW
    -10
    Do not make yourself an idol. The leader is necessary for underdeveloped tribes. The rest is enough competent leader.
    Reply


    Have you even read Krylov? Meet his fable "The Swan, Cancer and the Pike."
    1. +4
      23 March 2020 20: 07
      Previously, Stalin did not like and still does not like the category of people, as it were, "gentlemen" who wanted to play a noticeable role in society, enjoy the benefits of civilization, make decisions, lead, but at the same time do not want to be held responsible for bad results, this is a typical position of leaders to break off and to blame subordinates, and Stalin asked from everyone, including the "gentlemen" and they did not forgive him, so if only the very bottom of society, collective farmers, workers, minor military ranks, petty leaders were subject to punishment, then songs of praise would still be sung to him.
      1. 0
        23 March 2020 23: 20
        Especially the "bald maize". I read somewhere that I.V. Stalin refused when Nikitka asked for his traitorous son.
  48. 0
    23 March 2020 20: 00
    Those who recognized the cult ... they also destroyed the Russian Empire, organized a world war to destroy the Union (it didn’t work, placed Steel Man - for which he received a personality cult), but they achieved their goal in the 90s not without traitors (without them). A new patriot arrived and lifted the Orthodox country (and this is the most important) from its knees. But the enemy (evil spirits) is not sleeping. To humiliate the family (country, homeland), it is enough to denigrate the name of the main (father, leader, leader whatever you want to call him). And that’s exactly what trying to do with people who are objectionable to them, countries, peoples. The family is not without freaks, but who a patriot must understand and distinguish who is who.
  49. +1
    23 March 2020 20: 16
    Why aren't we talking about tens of thousands of dead fighters of Suvorov or Kutuzov?
    .... For example, talking about the tens of thousands of dead Suvorov’s fighters, the language doesn’t turn around ... If, I’m not mistaken, only during the Italian campaign, in one battle did Suvorov’s troops outnumber the enemy ... well, except for all of him military career ...
    1. +1
      24 March 2020 03: 59
      That is yes. And in principle, then the bouts were such that if something was thousands. This is quite a European practice of warfare. What Kutuzov portrayed near Borodino. Although there was no way out, that’s all.
  50. +1
    23 March 2020 20: 44
    Couplet - called "They"

    They believe our ancestors
    There were no people, but puppets.
  51. 0
    23 March 2020 22: 33
    Liberals and anti-Soviet Russophobes simply cannot live any other way. This is their motivation for life. am
  52. +5
    23 March 2020 23: 16
    In Donetsk, you can sometimes find sewer manholes with the inscription Stalino. My father respected Stalin very much (until his death the portrait of the Leader stood on the table).
  53. 0
    24 March 2020 03: 51
    This is actually how history is rewritten. Well, of course, not as openly, breaking templates as in the article. You need a couple of books on the topic. Hypothesis. Well, most of the people here are service people. They will survive such a presentation. But in general, yes, it’s quite an example of this very rewriting.
  54. -2
    24 March 2020 05: 22
    My two grandfathers were dispossessed, wealth is a horse! One perished in the Vasyugan swamps, the second was shot in prison! And how should we relate to Stalin?
    1. 0
      24 March 2020 06: 59
      Yes, rootless cosmopolitans, egoists, enemies of communists, firstly, never admit guilt either for their crimes or their relatives, and secondly, they evaluate the pre-revolutionary, Soviet, post-Soviet period, the life of the people according to their signature “but here I am, me, I have...' And they captured the USSR exclusively for THEMSELVES.
  55. +2
    24 March 2020 12: 17
    Yes, there was a cult, but there was also a PERSONALITY
    1. 0
      25 March 2020 23: 04
      There was no cult, there was nationwide love for the leader who served the working people.
  56. +1
    25 March 2020 09: 32
    At least the so-called “cult” was a worthy individual.
  57. +3
    25 March 2020 12: 13
    The nonentities in power and its servants are afraid of a dead giant.
  58. +1
    26 March 2020 01: 45
    the personality cult of Comrade Stalin is not an easy phenomenon, but the author is right in many respects in his vision of the topic. But there is another aspect, it is mentioned in passing, under the name of this "cult" already forgotten or not very much, the local officials did their own thing, knocked, wrote denunciations, knocked out testimonies ..., hiding behind the name of Stalin, as before they covered themselves with the name of Revolution. And then everything was blamed on Comrade Stalin, a huge mass of party workers, promoted, very few people realize how great their influence and weight was ... if they were able to liquidate Soviet power in 1936. replacing the alternative elections with the leading role of the party, and the Leader conceded .... in 93 they liquidated the country.
  59. 0
    29 March 2020 21: 44
    Quote: DMB 75
    There was a great country, I know that for sure. And now? Is there a personality cult (who is the season), only the country is completely different in terms of economic and social development from the USSR.

    It was said long ago (I think by Sholokhov):
    "Yes, there was a cult. But there was also PERSONALITY!"