Great War Purchases

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Stock in case of war, the imagination draws itself so. No, your stocks will be more modest!

The panic associated with coronavirus was, on the one hand, very funny, and on the other hand, very instructive. The population in many countries, not only in Russia, rushed to shops and markets to buy all kinds of goods.

The funny thing was that one of the main subjects of lust was toilet paper, the meaning of which in such a situation cannot be rationally understood. There are many jokes on this subject. There was a national flavor. I was told that during the food panic, residents of nearby villages came to Bishkek, often right on horseback, and swept everything off the shelves. What picture! The horseman drove right into the market row, threw a lump of catfish to the merchant, without bargaining, grabbed a sack of flour like a cockpit lamb, threw it through the saddle - and he was like that. You can still warm up with Kamchka lovers to grab someone else's. They said that merchants at that time sold everything, including expired products.



The instructive moment is that some part of the population reacts to some critical situation completely inadequately. Well, yes, with the threat of the spread of the virus, running into the crowd in the store or in the market is what you need to do first. It didn’t occur to the alarmists that just one infected person who sneezes in the crowd is enough for a significant part of them to become infected. In general, the crowd in panic is a source of serious danger, it is better to shun them.

Another instructive moment is that a kind of doctrine happened that created a situation very close to the beginning of a big war. It will be something like this: there is no immediate threat, but acute tension is already in the air. It is clear that economic difficulties will soon arise and something needs to be purchased in order to survive these difficulties as easily as possible. But what exactly? Well, certainly not toilet paper!

Therefore, based on extensive military experience, it’s worth writing something like a guide on the topic of what civilians should buy in reserve in case of a big war with the inevitable upset of the economy and various difficulties.

The most important thing is shoes


The first thing to take care of in such a situation is not buckwheat, flour or butter at all, but completely different shoes. The value of shoes for civilians in wartime is far from obvious, but in fact it is extremely significant. I would call shoes the alpha and omega of pre-war purchases. The reason is very simple. In shoes you can find food for yourself, purchase, receive by distribution or for work, but without shoes - no. Without shoes, there is an extremely serious risk of disease, and in winter without shoes you will generally become attached to your home and seriously risk, for example, malnutrition due to lack of nutrition.

In Russia, shoes are now mostly imported, and when the war begins, supplies will cease. Then, of course, they will organize the production of cheap shoes for the population, at least the same canvas boots or boots. But this takes time. About a year there may be an almost perfect absence of shoes that wears out quickly.

Therefore, to have spare two or three pairs of shoes for each person in the family, that is, pairs that are not worn constantly now, is a necessity. It is advisable to include a pair of durable work shoes in these pairs, such as tarpaulin boots or berets, to your taste. By the way, an extra pair of shoes is a good investment, since then they can be exchanged for food. Well-worn but still good shoes should also not be thrown away.

You can also advise to purchase and put in the far corner several pairs of slippers, slates or flip flops. They can be worn in the summer, preserving good shoes, and can be worn even in not too cold weather in the fall and even in the winter, wearing woolen socks and a plastic bag or medical shoe covers on top so that your feet do not get wet. In a situation where there is no shoes at all, and it will do.

It is also worth stocking up glue, pieces of leather and rubber for repairs. When buying shoes in stock, it is worth checking how the sole is glued. To do this, press the edge of the sole with your finger. A good gluing lasts, and a bad one moves away from the skin of the top. A lot of low-quality shoes with poor gluing appeared, in which the sole begins to fall off after a couple of months of socks.

Apparel


The second most important after shoes in our cold climate is clothing. There are no special problems with her now, unlike blessed times. But still something worth stocking up.

The first is a winter outfit. Warm jacket for severe frosts, warm pants and a sweater, some tracksuit for a poddevka, warm socks, a pair of hats.

The second is fast-wearing items of clothing such as socks, underwear. A particular problem with socks that break very quickly. Although you can darn socks several times, for which you need a supply of thread and sewing accessories, but the possibilities for mending are limited. Therefore, it is worth stocking fabrics for footcloths, in case there are not enough socks.

The stock can be made up not only of new or specially purchased, for example, second-hand clothing, but also already worn old clothes. It needs to be repaired, cleaned and put in the closet. Clothing that has become small, for example, shirts that have become tight at the collar, can also not be thrown away, but put aside. Then these clothes can be exchanged for food or some necessary things. The thirst for great-grandmothers, who had stored old clothes that had not been worn for a long time in cabinets and chests for decades, had the basis of military experience.

Food


Some food supply is better to have than not to have. But you need to understand that it will not work for a long time to live alone. Own stock allows you to survive supply interruptions of several days or a week, and also allows you to make an addition to what you managed to get in wartime. Therefore, own stocks are auxiliary nutrition, and nothing more.

In the composition of the stock you need to select products that contain the main nutrients: carbohydrates, fats and proteins. From this point of view, millet is very good - a classic of the fight against hunger genre. Many people during the hungry years were saved by millet. The millet from which millet is made is unpretentious, drought tolerant culture, and in the hungry years, millet crops sharply increase.

The second criterion is the shelf life of the product. The longer the product can be stored, the better. Of course, you can eat foods with an expired shelf life, but without guaranteeing their nutritional value and with a serious risk of severe food poisoning. The longest-stored product is stew in jars. Its standard shelf life is four years, and in glaciers the stew is stored for decades, while remaining suitable for food.

In second place are pasta: vermicelli, pasta, spaghetti and the like, from durum wheat with a shelf life of two years, as well as freeze-dried potatoes with a shelf life of three years. In sealed packaging and in a dry place, pasta can be stored for a long time. It is better to keep the supply in a cool place, since pasta gradually deteriorates when warm. It must be remembered that pasta has a low fat content, and it is better to supplement them with broth concentrate like the famous Gallina Blanca cubes or their analogues, which contain more fat. For the same reason, it is worth considering the stew not as a separate product, but as a fat supplement.

Various soup concentrates for cooking are very good. Their shelf life is usually from 12 to 24 months and their nutritional value is enough to prepare a very decent soup. The best sample in this category is briquette pea soup concentrate, giving a thick and nutritious soup.

Cereals, such as millet, buckwheat, rice, usually have a shelf life of 9 months and also require airtight packaging, a dry and cool place to store. Cereals also require extra fats due to their low content in the product.


By the way, a good idea is to refill the products into plastic bottles. They are screwed tight and tight, do not let gas through. The main reason for food spoilage is oxidation, so storage in such a sealed container can increase shelf life and preserve product shelf life.

Last place is flour with a standard shelf life of 3-4 months, depending on the variety, requiring a dry and cool place of storage. At higher temperatures, it can quickly go rancid and become unfit for food. Flour, however, is the most versatile food product, suitable for use not only in the form of bread, tortillas, but also in the form of zatiruha, paste or flour mash. Please, please, do not repeat the mistakes of people who tried to eat flour just like that. Flour can hammer a throat and lead to death by suffocation, there are many such cases. If it is not possible to cook, add water to the flour, stir, roll the balls and eat. This is zatiruha - a classic dish of explorers and hunters in Siberia, known from written sources at least from the XNUMXth century.

Is there a large margin to do?

The question of stock is determined by the size of consumption and the availability of space for the proper storage of products. In a private house with a basement, you can create a very extensive supply, which is enough for a year or two. There is little storage space in the city apartment, the conditions are unsuitable (the temperature is too high for food), so in cities the reserves will be involuntarily less.

Based on a person per day: pasta - 100 grams, cereals - 70 grams, fat in the form of stew - 50 grams, it can be calculated that the monthly supply will be the following values. Total: 3 kg of pasta, 2,1 kg of cereals and 1,5 kg of stew (rounded 5 cans). To calculate stocks per family, multiply by the number of eaters. So, a family of 4 people will need 12 kg of pasta, 8,4 kg of cereals and 20 cans of stew per month. Optionally, you can add 2-3 kg of flour, 3-4 kg of sugar and some other little things.

When I live in a big city, I don’t see any particular reason for procuring more than a month's supply of insurance. Anyway, one way or another, food will depend on the transport and distribution of food.

The above amount of food for a monthly supply can be quite safely purchased for several trips to the store, without creating panic and not standing out at all.
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  1. +29
    23 March 2020 05: 35
    By the way, a good idea is to refill the products into plastic bottles.
    rushed in a stream of "common thoughts" .... bunkers, caches ... slates ...
    1. +8
      23 March 2020 06: 26
      . The above amount of food for a monthly supply can be quite safely purchased for several trips to the store

      No panic! Everything to the store!)))
      1. +24
        23 March 2020 06: 49
        Great War Purchases


        Quote: Stas157
        No panic! Everything to the store!)))

        It looks funny and sinful. True ? As a kind of prelude to "post apocalypse" ...

        But, it was precisely with the creation of reserves in April 2014, for example for me, that preparations began for transferring the hardships of the barely emerging war.

        Is this war "big"? For some, no, obviously. But we have been carrying this cross for six years ...
        And how our path to our Golgotha ​​ends is not yet clear. More precisely, it is still not clear.
        1. +12
          23 March 2020 08: 14
          Quote: Insurgent
          It looks funny and sinful. True ? As a kind of prelude to "post apocalypse" ...

          I won’t talk about other countries, but what concerns the Russian Federation, the massive purchase of food and other goods is a desperate step of the population to buy, which, in their opinion, is cheap before the total rise in price in connection with the fall of the ruble. Everything is simple.
          I can say rel. life. technicians, precisely for this weekend life. the equipment has risen in price by 20-35%, on Saturday they bought a refrigerator for a friend.
          1. +8
            23 March 2020 08: 22
            Quote: Malyuta
            I can say onos. life. technicians, precisely for this weekend life. the equipment has risen in price by 20-35%, on Saturday they bought a refrigerator for a friend.

            If we talk about preparing for the survival of a probable war, and surviving in it (and the article is about this), then buying a refrigerator and other household appliances is a counterproductive step.

            A week and a half without electricity (this is still a gentle scenario) ...

            And I ask you to understand correctly, what I wrote refers to the WAR, and not to panic against the background of coronavirus hysteria.
            1. 0
              23 March 2020 08: 28
              Quote: Insurgent
              If we talk about preparing for the survival of a probable war, and surviving in it (and the article is about this), then buying a refrigerator and other household appliances is a counterproductive step.

              Comrade, if you are completely honest, then at the beginning of any war, the main currency will be not money, not stew, not gas and not gold, but the presence of cartridges in your pocket.
              1. +13
                23 March 2020 08: 34
                Quote: Malyuta
                ovarisch, if it’s completely honest, then at the beginning of any war, the main currency will be not money, not stew, not gas and not gold, but the presence of cartridges in your pocket.

                It must be understood that this is 100% related to the participants in the database, while the civilian population has slightly different criteria and other vital resources for survival.
              2. +5
                23 March 2020 10: 24
                then at the beginning of any war, the most important currency will be not money, not stew, not gas and not gold, but the presence of cartridges in your pocket.

                A common misconception.
                Legal weapons are almost certainly confiscated. And if not, it will not help you much. Imagine that you are sitting with Saiga in Grozny during an assault.
                In an epidemic, curfews will be imposed. A couple of sorties for the stew can happen. And then they will figure you out ...
                1. +2
                  23 March 2020 12: 36
                  "Imagine that you are sitting with the Saiga" in Haifa during the successful assault on Hezbollah ...
                  Z.Y. The modern war between us and the USA is a fast-moving nuclear war - either we them or they us.
                  In the first case, the products will not be a problem, and secondly, they simply will not be needed.
                  1. +2
                    23 March 2020 12: 56
                    The modern war between us and the US is a lightning fast nuclear war

                    Yes, now everyone is no longer up to wars.
                    Just when a curfew is imposed on us, I would not advise anyone to walk around the streets with a gun. Especially in camouflage and berets.
                    1. +3
                      23 March 2020 15: 56
                      when we’ll impose a curfew, I would not advise anyone to walk around the streets with a gun

                      Well, I would not advise walking with a gun in the streets and without curfew.
                2. 0
                  29 March 2020 17: 48
                  As practice has shown, you need to get together in groups on the basis of family, in the neighborhood, friendly relations. And then there is a chance to survive. They will gobble up one by one and not notice. Especially gangsters.
              3. +1
                23 March 2020 11: 58
                Are you going to eat bullets?
          2. -6
            23 March 2020 08: 59
            Quote: Malyuta
            I can say rel. life. technicians, precisely for this weekend life. the equipment has risen in price by 20-35%, on Saturday they bought a refrigerator for a friend.

            Without email energy, all these household appliances, "tovaristch ...", like an elegant platishko to a dead toad ... All on the barricades with the hated regime .... But passssarannnn !!! am Amigo! Venseremos !! laughing wassat
            1. 0
              23 March 2020 09: 26
              Quote: 30 vis
              Without email energy, all these household appliances, "tovaristch ...", like an elegant platishko to a dead toad ... All on the barricades with the hated regime .... But passssarannnn !!! am Amigo! Vensereimos !! laughing wassat

              I don’t understand. Why did you write this provocative comment?
              and you, citizen, I want to remind you that even in the Civil War, somehow trains traveled, as a promo worked, communication was functioning.
              and the second moment, over the years of the current regime of man-made disasters, and this without any wars, there was enough in abundance, Chagen, Shushenskaya, ammunition depots exploded, children burned alive in Kemerovo, planes fell, buildings collapsed, paraships sank ("Bulgaria") , and gas explosions, which are now called "pops" have become commonplace ...
              And even if there are barricades about which Zaputin provocateurs and stabilizer lovers will now broadcast, then they will defend the infrastructure that has not yet been plundered and not destroyed from robbers and robbers.
              And now BUT PASAPRAN !!!
              1. +1
                23 March 2020 12: 16
                Quote: Malyuta
                And if there will be barricades, about which Zaputin provocateurs and lovers of the stable will now broadcast,

                I see nothing wrong with the stability of the country! And grateful to Putin, as a resident of Sevastopol hi Vladimir Putin helped Sevastopol and Crimea return to the Russian world ... And they gave Crimea and Sevastopol, the Khrushchev’s comrades and other comrades, yes .... Yes, when in 2014 people like you went out of town in Sevastopol-Crimea LIGHT, Maidan riders bursting electricity poles ... Many small children died on our roads ... Dark darkness, neither street lights shine, nor windows shine ... Drivers around the city drove at a minimum speed ... And all the same, children were dying .... Diesel-gasoline generators e. energy ... I don’t know about the civil war .... at that time 98 percent of the population did without email. energy ... They burned a splinter and candles ... And during the Second World War simple people sat without light ... Smokers and candles ... So, comrade wassat stock up on candles! And to the barricades! drinks
                1. -2
                  23 March 2020 12: 57
                  Are you one of those with Stalin worse than Hitler?
                  1. -2
                    23 March 2020 14: 13
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    Are you one of those with Stalin worse than Hitler?

                    I didn’t switch with you ....! ... poke in the best traditions of the illiterate wassat lovers of Maidan and TARGET ... And such slogans, too. wassat
                    1. -6
                      23 March 2020 14: 15
                      And you're just not a very smart person. You should have said so from the start.
            2. +5
              23 March 2020 10: 30
              Without email energy all these household appliances,

              Each situation is different. In the event of an epidemic, on-call services will almost certainly continue if water is cut off and the cholera also joins.
              But there may be interruptions. A cheap headlamp for each family member plus batteries plus a camping lamp in each room. It should be without epidemics.
              1. 0
                23 March 2020 19: 17
                Quote: Arzt
                Each situation is different. In the event of an epidemic, on-call services will almost certainly continue if water is cut off and the cholera also joins.

                And for this, energy consumers are ranked by category.

                And if the intensive care unit of the hospital, as a prominent representative of the first category, can be disconnected from energy only for the time necessary to automatically switch to a backup source, then for an apartment building (III cat.) The day of absence of email. energy is permissible.

                Accordingly, a day in the summer without energy is a problem point for the refrigerator.
        2. 0
          28 March 2020 08: 41
          We don’t seem to go to Calvary.
      2. +3
        23 March 2020 06: 50
        Quote: Stas157
        . The above amount of food for a monthly supply can be quite safely purchased for several trips to the store

        No panic! Everything to the store!)))
        laughing In the warehouses of hucksters, too, a lot of everything you need .. wassat
      3. +20
        23 March 2020 08: 33
        My grandmother, Anna Alekseevna, survived the occupation with two young children. I was still a kid and did not understand why she had three-liter jars with buckwheat, millet, pasta in her closet ... And in the underground - three racks. On one, canned meat, on the second, fish, on the third, vegetable oil ... This is not counting a bag of matches, a can of kerosene, vegetables and a store of firewood! With the calculation of commercials for half a year at least! And he understood as an adult - who she was, who she survived, will become thrifty for life ....
        1. +4
          24 March 2020 12: 15
          This is not counting a bag of matches, a can of kerosene, vegetables and a store of firewood!

          Forgotten the soap. The usual household. Hefty box. Salt in packs. Spare kerosene stove. And dry yeast. This was in my grandmother's closet. Well, wood chopped for 3 winters and a cellar - like all old women who survived the war. Old clothes in the closet, a pair of sweatshirts, felt boots. The old word for old clothes is "shobon".
    2. -5
      23 March 2020 09: 00
      Send the advice of the survivors.
      Well then, what about the boots and footcloths, the author did not say anything? They are more reliable than slippers and socks. And about the fact that without proper storage conditions in cereals, worm bugs can be silent. request
      1. Aag
        +3
        23 March 2020 16: 19
        You, apparently, did not read the article, - the author did not say nothing.
        That's about medicines, fuel is not mentioned.
    3. +4
      23 March 2020 09: 33
      If you hide in which containers then in glass or metal. A groater will be started, as it is called correctly there, plastic gnaws at two times.
    4. +3
      23 March 2020 10: 36
      rushed in a stream of "common thoughts" .... bunkers, caches ... slates ...

      The problem is not in the cache, but in the fact that you will not be allowed to leave the house under quarantine. Have you seen how in China people raised bags with a spinning stick to the top floor?
      Why not buy regular products that you still eat not for a week, but for a couple of months?
      Well, of course spinning laughing
    5. -4
      23 March 2020 11: 56
      Embroiderers now generally enjoy. Wait for the same. laughing
      1. +3
        23 March 2020 12: 59
        Embroiderers now generally enjoy. Wait for the same.

        Climbed on their forums, they are at a loss. Or they continue to discuss all kinds of hell, such as which knife is better. They did not prepare for this. laughing
        1. +6
          23 March 2020 13: 06
          Generally a little less than all this survival is fierce nonsense. No, of course, they have some common thoughts. But one must understand that in the long run, all this sitting in caches on the mountains from all kinds of reserves is the way to nowhere. All that mankind has achieved today is the result of the joint work of large collectives. And therefore, only the team will be able to overcome the consequences of a severe disaster. No sitting in the caches of the Rebomb Raiser will help.
    6. -2
      23 March 2020 17: 39
      and not far away people just starve. don’t you, go on, go on
  2. +25
    23 March 2020 05: 47
    I live most of the time in the village, in the off-season and in winter I wear tarpaulin boots with molten soles, who were in the army boots with such soles, lightweight people called them, well, I made an insole from foil noise insulation, clothes for all occasions, garden, garden, bird, bees, diesel car, fuel 400, liters, saiga 12 is 030, cartridges, we will survive.
    1. +18
      23 March 2020 06: 27
      Good morning! Have a great day and health!

      I live now in the suburbs. I saw with my own eyes the hype with buckwheat and toilet paper. People went crazy.

      Questions:

      1) why they did not announce that in our country there is such an organization as Rosrezerv, which can close any deficit?

      2) why were local authorities not very active at the end of this commodity panic?

      PS Dear author, he wrote well about shoes and clothes. But I forgot about the medicine. A stock of medicines is needed. They take up little space.
      1. +6
        23 March 2020 07: 12
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Dear author, wrote well about shoes and clothes. But I forgot about the medicine. A stock of medicines is needed. They take up little space.

        As well as matches (lighters), candles (a kerosene lamp with a fuel supply) and so on and so forth.

        In 2014, among other things, for example, we had to buy a gasoline stove made by the Snezhnyansk branch of Motor Sich, and a 5L metal canister for gasoline.

        And I’ll tell you, July-August, the most difficult time, these efforts, which were not at all obvious in their expediency in April, helped to survive more or less tolerably.
      2. +6
        23 March 2020 08: 11
        Questions:

        1) why they did not announce that in our country there is such an organization as Rosrezerv, which can close any deficit?

        2) why were local authorities not very active at the end of this commodity panic?


        1. Rationally minded people understand this anyway. And it is useless to explain something to alarmists.

        2. And what should they do? Prohibit buying, or introduce a restriction on the sale? From this panic would only intensify - if they do not sell or limit the sale, then the truth is not enough. And speculators would step up unspeakably.
      3. -3
        23 March 2020 10: 33
        1) why they did not announce that in our country there is such an organization as Rosrezerv, which can close any deficit?

        Is he there?
      4. +6
        23 March 2020 11: 05
        1) why they did not announce that in our country there is such an organization as Rosrezerv, which can close any deficit?

        There is. Can. The question is how exactly?

        Do you know what it is?


        No war, no blockade, 90s. But in the store for a month they gave out 1 kg of sugar. And then free, look where you want.
        The same chip with money. You come to the Savings Bank, withdraw the money, and they tell you "Limit is 500 rubles per month." And the ruble does not stand still ...
        1. +4
          23 March 2020 13: 35
          Quote: Arzt
          Do you know what it is?

          This is something that people love to deny. correspondence lovers of the USSR. Like, until the 90th there were no coupons in the Union.
          Quote: Arzt
          But in the store for a month they gave out 1 kg of sugar. And then free, look where you want.

          They did not give out. Have bought 1 kg of sugar per month per person with a mandatory presentation and withdrawal of a coupon - in the then language redeemed coupons.
          And this is if this sugar was in the store. Pomnitsa, in St. Petersburg it was possible to go around the whole area and only by chance find a store where you could buy sugar coupons - especially in the summer.
          And with the meat what happened ... I still remember how I went to check out at the supermarket on the queue lists - the eighty-sixth number in the fifth queue for meat.
          1. +2
            23 March 2020 14: 33
            Quote: Alexey RA
            This is something that extramural USSR fans love to deny. Like, until the 90th there were no coupons in the Union.

            They were still as they were. I’m telling you as an amateur of the USSR. laughing
          2. 0
            23 March 2020 19: 21
            Quote: Alexey RA
            They did not give out. They bought 1 kg of sugar per month per person with the obligatory presentation and seizure of a coupon - coupons were bought in the then language.

            The military also issued. Not always high quality. And not always adequate.

            You could take money. But what’s cool is no coupons laughing
            1. +1
              25 March 2020 08: 03
              The military also issued. Not always high quality. And not always adequate.

              Aha! I remember my father-in-law's motorcycle sidecar full of horsemeat with the stamp "1943"
          3. 0
            29 March 2020 18: 04
            Alexey RA, Do not confuse a normal USSR with Gorbachevsky. These are two big different things.
      5. 0
        23 March 2020 12: 03
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Why didn’t they announce that in our country there is such an organization as Rosrezerv, which can close any deficit?

        Because 17000 in our country is the middle class. They are terribly far from the people.
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        why were local authorities not very active in ending this commodity panic?

        Because our power in the first place is the power of the bourgeoisie. And secondly, she is the same bird as a hedgehog until you kick and fly.
      6. +1
        23 March 2020 21: 04
        Ilya spb, you asked a good question about the local authorities. There is no freedom of information in the country now, everything is dosed, we are reading not what we want, but what we should read at the behest of interested parties. Against this background, there is free dissemination of information about the hype, i.e. in fact, the media support the panic. Panic is beneficial because warehouses in a short time will be freed from stale goods and new batches of goods will arrive, but at an increased price. The fact that a drop in the price of oil will be followed by a drop in the ruble against the dollar, and an increase in all vital goods is an axiom. Even more interesting is the call not to be procured, which is definitely followed by a backlash from the population. This is also known to the authorities. The processing of population consciousness is the foundation of power, i.e. it turns out that there is a special escalation of panic.
    2. +4
      23 March 2020 06: 30
      Quote: Pessimist22
      I live most of the time in the village, in the off-season and in winter I wear tarpaulin boots with molten soles, who were in the army boots with such soles, lightweight people called them, well, I made an insole from foil noise insulation, clothes for all occasions, garden, garden, bird, bees, diesel car, fuel 400, liters, saiga 12 is 030, cartridges, we will survive.

      And so most adults live in Russia. Because he believes only in himself, taught by the bitter experience of deprivation since the 30s. I still remember what my mother, father, relatives, acquaintances exiled in those years and doomed to survive told me. , quinoa, potatoes frozen after snowmelt from the fields, offal of cut and handed over to the state fish, all kinds of roots gathered and ate, and survived. So the excitement that is happening now is from there, from the depths of the past years.
    3. 0
      25 March 2020 07: 58
      And I also own tobacco seeds. Just time muddy seedlings ..
  3. +8
    23 March 2020 05: 48
    In Russia, shoes are now mainly imported, and when the war begins, supplies will cease

    Not only imported shoes. Therefore, it is necessary to develop our own production, which was lost along with the collapse of the USSR, so that there wouldn’t be such as in the article:
    But this takes time. About a year there may be an almost perfect lack of shoes
  4. +4
    23 March 2020 06: 04
    I don’t know how anyone, but in the article I see elements of banter.
    1. +9
      23 March 2020 07: 41
      I do not think this is banter. It is quite sound and balanced recommendations.
      And not without reason.
      We (Donbass) have information that something serious is planned for early May - after the sowing. Information, including from the other side. And Shoigu several times already made very disturbing statements about the plans of former partners.
      Crises such as the one that has already erupted (and is just beginning) have never been resolved in historical retrospective without war. And this crisis will be truly grandiose - global, with a redivision of the world and the establishment of new rules after its completion. And the script may be the most ... serious.
      So you need to have reserves, and some kind of base outside the city - a cottage, a country house, friends / relatives in the village. Cities, these are the primary goals in a big war, and (in which case) without electricity, water and the work of communal services, trade ... it will be difficult to survive.
      We have a war for six years soon, but ... what could happen is much more serious.
      Peace to all, stability and positive.
      1. -1
        23 March 2020 08: 02
        20 cans of stew per month (and how many months are we going to bury?) And recommendations not to eat with spoons (handfuls) it is difficult to perceive flour otherwise than banter.
        1. +6
          23 March 2020 08: 17
          Quote: mark1
          and recommendations not to eat with spoons (handfuls) of flour are difficult to perceive otherwise than banter.

          In a state of affect and panic, a person is not capable of such nonsense ... Especially with hunger. Or children. There were precedents, from there both experience and precautionary recommendations. Survival experiences among modern citizens are few.
          1. +1
            23 March 2020 08: 28
            Quote: bayard
            In a state of passion and panic

            Quote: bayard
            Survival experiences among modern citizens are few

            This is still a topic for another article.
            1. +4
              23 March 2020 09: 34
              Well, why, the article is just about how to prepare ordinary citizens for survival in a military environment. Here, both the economic and psychological aspects are important, and pre-prepared action algorithms.
              Everything is important in war. But learn from it quickly. And civilians too.
              Quote: mark1
              20 cans of stew per month (and how many months are we going to bury?)

              If you are talking about how much stocks to prepare, then the author said the same thing in the article - if in the countryside \ cottage \ country house, then stocks can be made quite decent - for several months. But in the city this doesn’t make much sense - people will most likely leave cities, where it’s easier to survive / survive, mushrooms, berries, and soak from the ground.
              This is if a serious war happens. And she can. Quite.
              And you can’t take much away from the city. Not too much will enter the car, for there are also things, a tool, a family ...
              It is best to think about this in advance, so that without fuss in the midst of events - all according to a previously thought out algorithm.
              If a serious conflict happens, life in cities will not boil again soon. But on the ground and from the garden you can feed your family somehow. Especially if children - it is necessary to save them.
              In our time, to renounce war is stupid, anything can happen. Russia in 2014, 2015 was braided, passed along the razor's edge, but time won. Now the alignment is already different ... but when in history did the hegemon voluntarily leave the throne? Especially SUCH.
          2. 0
            29 March 2020 18: 17
            bayard. Well, why.? Serbs and Croats have enough skills and experience. And enough in the Donbass.
            1. +1
              29 March 2020 18: 24
              So I write from Donbass - Donetsk.
              1. 0
                29 March 2020 19: 52
                hi soldier You would have to compile a book on life in the city in special conditions.
      2. +2
        23 March 2020 12: 25
        And Shoigu has already made quite alarming statements several times ...

        Alarming for our "partners", for he has long been asking soldier
        1. 0
          23 March 2020 23: 33
          It has been asking for a really long time - since 2014, weapons, equipment, etc. equipment have been imported to and accumulated at European bases. This is already statistics.
  5. +15
    23 March 2020 06: 10
    In principle, everything is true. Forgot about medicines, and most importantly - a great energy drink, I always have moonshine for this purpose (everyone praises it), my wine. Another water. In case of a world cabin (or whatever it is) a can of homemade alcohol with a snack. So he said to his wife, a glass of mother and we will admire! By the way, who wants to dump their moonshine in a personal, there are no analogues in the net! It really helps to survive!
    1. 0
      23 March 2020 07: 18
      Quote: lithium17
      By the way, who wants to dump their moonshine in a personal, there are no analogues in the net! It really helps to survive!

      Why not ? Let's ! I’ll look, what kind of miracle machine is this?

      What if something really good ...

      I am the first. Scored a turn laughing wink
    2. +1
      23 March 2020 08: 06
      Well, I don’t really need to be surprised at the unit, but what kind of drinks are you doing, discard them in a personal, if not laziness, and at your leisure. Of course, they are full on the Internet, recipes, but there is always a chance to dig out something interesting and proven. And by that I will write something, if it becomes interesting.
    3. +5
      23 March 2020 08: 08
      By the way, not a bad subject for barter, in the light of the situation under discussion.
  6. +1
    23 March 2020 06: 11
    Having read up to the daily food ration, I remembered the official who suggested "to eat macaros".
    I liked the article, although it is probably not quite applicable.
    1. +4
      23 March 2020 07: 29
      Quote: Mole
      Having read up to the daily food ration, I remembered the official who suggested "to eat macaros".

      When "squeezes", everyone will become an "official" for himself. And you will limit yourself in everything and everyone.

      We have been living with this for 6 years.
      1. +2
        23 March 2020 08: 16
        God give you patience and strength. You hold on there! Without reference to one of our ....... once issued this phrase. (That's honest, from the heart.)
        1. +1
          23 March 2020 08: 26
          Quote: Hagalaz
          God give you patience and strength. You hold on there!

          Thank ! Break through!
  7. +3
    23 March 2020 06: 33
    Today I read a comment “and where are so many protective suits abroad”. Maybe they receive increased attention. We are often reproached for underestimating the threat of this infection. Or maybe our peace of mind helps us? There is no answer yet. Some write that psychosis in stores is a purely Russian trait. But what about in other countries? We will live, we will not die.
  8. +1
    23 March 2020 06: 44
    The panic associated with coronavirus was, on the one hand, very funny, and on the other hand, very instructive. The population in many countries, not only in Russia, rushed to shops and markets to buy all kinds of goods.

    It is instructive what more can be said.
  9. -2
    23 March 2020 06: 49
    All. Started. Imperceptibly drive up to the manazin on Kamaz and buy up whole regiments. But only imperceptibly. fellow
  10. +5
    23 March 2020 06: 54
    when the war begins, supplies will cease.
    .... and there will be a nuclear war?
    Then, of course, they will organize the production of cheap shoes for the population
    ....When later? After a nuclear war or on time? laughing
    1. +2
      23 March 2020 07: 00
      Quote: parusnik
      ....When later? After a nuclear war or on time?

      INSTEAD nuclear war laughing
    2. +1
      23 March 2020 12: 13
      Then, this later. It will be seen in general. In the meantime, it will be necessary to hold on. laughing
  11. +2
    23 March 2020 06: 57
    Laughter, laughter, and last week I could not buy granulated sugar in three stores of the same chain! And in one sugar store there was only cane and a couple of packs of figured refined sugar! and the only pack of salt! I always have NZ sugar, but I really DO NOT understand about salt! I have enough 1 kg for a year!
  12. +13
    23 March 2020 06: 58
    In the seventies, my grandmother dried the remnants of bread from the dastarkhan and stored it in linen sacks. When I asked why? She talked about the hungry years of "charchilik", how people survived and how they died. She always prayed that such a test would not fall to our lot. She told how during the war all her gold (mahram is gold from her husband and relatives, just in case of a fire, the woman only disposes of herself) she sold in a special store and bought food, thus saving everyone. My grandmother never wore gold, so I found out why.
    1. +3
      23 March 2020 08: 15
      This is with all the old survivors of the war. I still have matches and salt left from my grandmothers. I was still a kid wondering where the box of matches and a barrel of salt!
  13. +3
    23 March 2020 06: 58
    And yet, this, interruptions in fuel will begin, you need to pull the gas tank at home.
    Candles, you need a supply of candles, during the apocalypse, there will be no light. So the basement of coal and the shed of firewood will not hurt.
    And also a cow and hens, you will always with milk and eggs, you will also sell to neighbors.
    A better machine and more ammunition, then just do not go hungry))))
    1. +2
      23 March 2020 07: 16
      And yet, this, interruptions in fuel will begin, you need to pull the gas tank at home.
      I have a diesel barrel and a barrel 92 in my barn, as I use it, I periodically replenish it with fresh.
    2. +6
      23 March 2020 07: 20
      during the apocalypse, there will be no light.
      .... The Internet will work from candles, they will come up with, and therefore it is necessary to stock up on the Internet stream ... laughing
      1. +3
        23 March 2020 07: 35
        laughing Yes, the Internet is the main strategic product in case of war. Yes Without Internet tips, half of the citizens will not even be able to make a fire .. crying
    3. 0
      23 March 2020 08: 09
      come and dispossessed and there will not be enough cartridges for the government food detachment
      1. +5
        23 March 2020 08: 15
        Quote: seregarodionov
        government food detachment
        wassat
        This squad whom you want ,, dispossessed,
        1. 0
          23 March 2020 17: 34
          yes, and then again 70 years of Victory
  14. -1
    23 March 2020 07: 24
    The above amount of food for a monthly supply can be quite safely purchased for several trips to the store

    The author forgot: salt -10 kg; matches - 10 boxes; stearic candles -10 boxes; Primus or kerosene - 2 pcs; kerosene - a barrel (barrel) or two; haloperidol - 1 box. fool
    1. +3
      23 March 2020 07: 58
      The author forgot: salt -10 kg; matches - 10 boxes; stearic candles -10 boxes; Primus or kerosene - 2 pcs; kerosene - a barrel (barrel) or two; haloperidol - 1 box
      For example, I live in Chukotka, and I have a supply of salt (because fish and meat are salted all the time, it takes 10-12 kilograms a year) and matches, and a kerosene stove with a kerosene stove is available. And a 5kV "deska" with a collapsible stove "potbelly stove" ......
      1. +8
        23 March 2020 08: 03
        Here I live in Chukotka as an example

        You probably also have a deer with seals there. You well. And the panic is in the capitals, where not only there are no deer, but the haloperol will soon end. drinks
      2. +2
        23 March 2020 17: 19
        There the people will survive ... vast spaces, all sorts of fish, walrus, deer ... True and cold, and the winter is not small .... Everyone will have fun ... God forbid, guys, these pleasures to us ....
    2. Fat
      +3
      23 March 2020 08: 45
      Quote: Amateur
      The above amount of food for a monthly supply can be quite safely purchased for several trips to the store

      The author forgot: salt -10 kg; matches - 10 boxes; stearic candles -10 boxes; Primus or kerosene - 2 pcs; kerosene - a barrel (barrel) or two; haloperidol - 1 box. fool

      I especially liked the passage about millet.
      This cereal has the shortest shelf life. And if the millet began to spit, then this process cannot be stopped by anything. Buckwheat and rice are stored the longest.
    3. +1
      23 March 2020 12: 17
      The author forgot: salt -10 kg; matches - 10 boxes; stearic candles -10 boxes; Primus or kerosene - 2 pcs; kerosene - a barrel (barrel) or two; haloperidol - 1

      2 tape recorders, suede jackets 2 pieces ...
  15. +2
    23 March 2020 07: 55
    There are positive points in this entire general epidemic, namely, all kinds of taverns and other entertainment establishments were closed, as it should be during Great Lent.
    I didn’t like the article, so why should the alarmists play along? No stocks will help, an empty lesson, and the psyche can be disturbed.
    1. +2
      23 March 2020 12: 15
      I didn’t like the article, so why should the alarmists play along?

      Well Duc, as the Jews say "there is never too much shekels" bully
  16. -2
    23 March 2020 07: 55
    It is necessary to stock up on cartridges, cartridges and again cartridges. For each family member, two trunks, then there will be clothes and food.
  17. -3
    23 March 2020 08: 06
    I will go from the first to the fourth floor, I will clean seven apartments. I barricade the entrance to the porch, then I have at my disposal food supplies of my neighbors, their clothes and furniture for firewood. Well, maybe I’ll leave Masha and Verka for breeding, I eat them last, so as not to deteriorate ...
    1. +2
      23 March 2020 11: 49
      girls will not be lost))))
    2. +6
      23 March 2020 12: 11
      And then a detachment arrives to clean up the looters. laughing
      Looting is a way to die quickly.
      1. +4
        23 March 2020 12: 35
        The people of Berkem Al Atomi re-read the campaign. Although if honestly the allowance is quite distinct.
  18. +2
    23 March 2020 08: 17
    Another instructive point is that a kind of teaching happened,
    I agree, this is very similar to a nationwide exercise.
    that during the food panic

    I would not call what is happening panic. People have heard that in other countries they close shops and restrict free movement and make purchases based on this, and not because they forecast a shortage of goods.
    It didn’t occur to the alarmists that just one infected person who sneezes in the crowd is enough for a significant part of them to become infected.

    The epidemic, as such, has not yet reached us, so the chance to "run into" someone infected with the coronavirus is not so great. It's time for those who want to hedge themselves, to make purchases before the start of a large-scale epidemic, and not when this "infection" will be recorded in every city.
    And it is better if we laugh at ourselves for being overstocked with food, than later we will scold everyone in a row if the virus suddenly gets out of control and goes around the country.
  19. +3
    23 March 2020 08: 22
    It is immediately clear that the author is clearly not an employee of the Federal Agency for State Reserves and is guided by the instructions from the OBS in creating reserves.
    If you already undertook to give such advice, then it is worth a little preparation.
    Already in 1931, the nomenclature of reserves for strategic materials was approved. In this nomenclature of goods of domestic production there were 11 items, and imported - 68!
    So if someone has a critical need for regular medications, especially imported products, start with a pharmacy. And then stocks of pasta and boots will not be needed.
  20. 0
    23 March 2020 08: 45
    It’s better to buy cartridges, then there will be shoes, and food, and clothes
  21. +4
    23 March 2020 08: 47
    Clothing and shoes are better to buy in workwear stores.
  22. +1
    23 March 2020 09: 02
    The main thing in preparing for survival: not only to accumulate, but also to protect your bins from outsiders - you need to store supplies not at home, but in the crypt laughing

    Better cereal beans and peas, which contain a complete set of amino acids. Better stews are freeze-dried meat with a long shelf life. Plus multivitamins.

    A separate issue is a set of medicines.
  23. +1
    23 March 2020 09: 17
    I don’t know about the truth, one comrade swore to me that in the mines there are hooks in case .... in which alcohol and chocolate are for survival. Only the master knows about this. In principle, there is reasonableness, but ....
  24. BAI
    +1
    23 March 2020 09: 24
    The author forgot 2 necessary things:
    1. Fishing tackle.
    2. Weapons and ammunition.
    1. +1
      23 March 2020 10: 17
      1. Fishing tackle

      Somewhere in Siberia - yes. In Moscow and the region it’s a practically useless thing, even now you can’t catch fish, and even when everyone breaks ...
      Although a couple of networks make sense.

      2. Weapons and ammunition.

      In the current situation, with an aggravation of the situation, legal weapons are almost certainly confiscated.
    2. 0
      23 March 2020 12: 11
      The author forgot 2 necessary things:
      1. Fishing tackle.
      2. Weapons and ammunition.

      Only the second is enough. There will be a second, then everything else is not a problem. bully
      Z.Y. Let the geldings stock up on products and their BV friends. Why did you decide that the war will be on our territory? There’s a lot wassat
    3. 0
      23 March 2020 14: 45
      A knife is still needed like Ramba and an ax with a mount against zombies.
    4. -1
      24 March 2020 00: 03
      matches and candles
  25. bar
    0
    23 March 2020 09: 26
    And then they forgot about cartridges. How can it be without cartridges? what
  26. 0
    23 March 2020 09: 34
    Quote: Operator
    The main thing in preparing for survival: not only to accumulate, but also to protect your bins from outsiders - you need to store supplies not at home, but in the crypt

    And mine!
  27. +3
    23 March 2020 09: 36
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    laughing Yes, the Internet is the main strategic product in case of war. Yes Without Internet tips, half of the citizens will not even be able to make a fire .. crying

    In general, I think, looking at young people fused with iPhones, and the virus is not needed, there will be mass suicide!
  28. -2
    23 March 2020 10: 00
    Does the author want to survive in case of war? bully
    At home, somewhere in Tel Aviv, probably all the cellars had already been packed with matzo.
  29. +6
    23 March 2020 10: 16
    I used to read the memoirs of a Serb who survived the war of the 90s. Those who had a large supply of medicines survived relatively easily, people were ready to give everything for the medicine.
    second: The supply of gas in any cylinders, for refueling lighters, fire is always needed. For this, gasoline is also needed, but not to the extent gasoline lighters are already rare.
    To protect housing from bandits, you need to organize with your neighbors, carry out guard duty and make an alert system, only that way you survived, you yourself or only your family can’t protect yourself.
    Generally a very interesting alien experience, I regret that I did not download it.
    1. 0
      23 March 2020 23: 27
      This article is on the internet, google.
  30. 0
    23 March 2020 10: 35
    The excitement is mainly due to the understanding of who is driving at the top.
    1. +1
      23 March 2020 13: 04
      The excitement is mainly due to the understanding of who is driving at the top.

      Moreover, it steers from Valdai.
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  32. +2
    23 March 2020 10: 53
    I would also like to laugh and gossip, but I won’t. This is a very serious matter.
    In our area for 4 days there are quarantine restrictions with all the consequences.
    The number of cases exceeded 1000.
    TASS already reports about 438 cases in the Russian Federation.

    So we had 3 days ago ...
    1. 0
      23 March 2020 12: 13
      Quote: A. Privalov
      The number of cases exceeded 1000.

      Stavropol Territory?
      1. +2
        23 March 2020 12: 16
        Quote: lithium17
        Stavropol Territory?

        Promised land.
        1. 0
          23 March 2020 14: 48
          Why are there so many patients? You seem to have normal medicine and there isn’t much mess.
          1. +1
            23 March 2020 14: 56
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Why are there so many patients? You seem to have normal medicine and there isn’t much mess.

            Medicine is powerless for now. Those who are ill recover themselves. Only one person died at the age of 90. The mess is not special, but it is created by the people themselves. There are not as many patients as could be. This is a very average infection rate.
            1. BAI
              0
              23 March 2020 18: 40
              Good afternoon. You have not been seen for a long time.
              In Israel, the situation is somewhat different:
              1. Smaller size -> higher mobility, population mobility (and the population density is probably higher).
              2. The average age will be higher than in Russia. We have so many young people dying for other reasons.
              1. 0
                23 March 2020 19: 30
                And good day to you. Recently returned. He was on a creative business trip. wink
                Already released two articles. Drop in.

                Each country has its own characteristics.
                The infection rates in the Russian Federation are very similar to ours. On March 18, we also had 433 patients, and today 1238.
                Death statistics (now) do not specifically include those dying from other causes. Just write a separate article. It’s more clear.
  33. +2
    23 March 2020 10: 58
    Now they are making quite comfortable and even beautiful work shoes in some places.
    The prices for it are relatively not high, and the strength and durability are very high, because it is designed for daily operation in difficult conditions, for example 8 hours at the machine with metal chips.

    And as a rule, it is made of genuine leather (because it is more heat-resistant).
  34. -2
    23 March 2020 12: 32
    most men will be killed, mostly girls will survive
    1. 0
      23 March 2020 13: 52
      The astray. Girls obekt close attention. For direct use. In the case of a very extreme zvizdets girls must change into men's clothes and cut their hair short. Stress is booze and adrenaline. Both cause lust in men. And normal men will stop accepting payment with a furry wallet for food very soon. When the food itself is no longer enough.
      1. 0
        23 March 2020 13: 56
        who will kill the girls?
        1. 0
          23 March 2020 14: 03
          None. In the event of severe hunger, they will simply die of hunger. They will not share food. That is the question. You have a third can of stew and 50 grams of rice. You need 3 days to feed three people. It's summer outside. A lot of greenery. Stain, nettle, dandelions. Can you?
          1. 0
            23 March 2020 14: 51
            women are more tenacious, and deprivation is better tolerated by men, why will not they share?
            1. +1
              23 March 2020 15: 18
              Or you are in a group and benefit the group. Or a loner and you need to be beaten to a group. The main thing is to be full of those with whom you are close. Believe me, hunger and danger change people. Charity goes by the wayside. Want to live in a group, bring benefits. Get food. Collect the edible. Get food. This is at the forefront. Doctors and technicians are in second place. Scanty food is shared with those who are wholesome. Ginseng is more tenacious and their body is more adapted to all sorts of hardships. But the whole margin of safety has a limit. But the girl’s psychological load is worse. They need psychological support. Or a child. Or a man. Or a group. Or hope.
              1. 0
                23 March 2020 15: 29
                Or you are in a group and benefit the group.

                And what good could be of them? wink
                1. 0
                  23 March 2020 15: 35
                  Prepare food, clean water, moonshine from sawdust and mosquito squeak. It takes care of the wounded and very sick but needed. Engaged in agriculture and the collection of wild edible. Keep an eye on children and educate them. What did ginseng do in primitive society.
                2. 0
                  23 March 2020 15: 56
                  and what is the use of your wife?
                  1. 0
                    23 March 2020 16: 10
                    Benefit from the wife? Well, in the case of a star, she is in a group. Trains. Chickens rabbits can grow up. Overall not full ballast but close. Without me, she cannot survive and take care of children. The first wife is the same.
                    1. 0
                      23 March 2020 16: 13
                      bad luck))))
                      1. 0
                        23 March 2020 16: 21
                        Realities of time. I can soberly appreciate the wives of friends and close relatives. Plus sisters in terms of what kind of wives they will be in extreme conditions. Of the 11 people, only two will be half-voles. The rest, alas. I am glad that the daughter at age 13 shows signs that she is adaptive and knows how to work with her hands.
              2. 0
                23 March 2020 15: 56
                Yes, it’s clear that it doesn’t matter if a man or woman is a freeloader.
      2. +1
        23 March 2020 21: 18
        In the case of a very extreme zvizdets girls must change into men's clothes and cut their hair short. Stress is booze and adrenaline. Both cause lust in men. And normal men will stop accepting payment with a furry wallet for food very soon.

        In our time, this can be even more dangerous. Suddenly you run into gays. If they, burning with booze and lust, find a girl under their clothes, they can finish off immediately on the spot.
        1. +1
          23 March 2020 21: 25
          Gays? This is likely for America and Europe. Local, just in case, will be cleaned up quickly enough. People are afraid of what they do not accept. Waiting for meanness. Tear off anger. In our post-Soviet mentality, gays are not residents.
          1. 0
            23 March 2020 21: 48
            People are afraid of what they do not accept. Waiting for meanness. Tear off anger. In our post-Soviet mentality, gays are not residents.

            Yes it is possible. If shouted out by their culprits.

            From the typology of human behavior during epidemics of deadly infectious diseases:
            ...
            10) a society engulfed in a deadly epidemic begins to become extremely aggressive and manifests collective cruelty towards all those whom it considers to be the culprit of its disaster. A large-scale and brutal epidemic is capable of continuing terror against “internal enemies”;
            1. 0
              23 March 2020 22: 03
              Very accurate quote. I developed a rule for myself, in which case I should carefully watch religious fanatics. Any denominations. Well, who can stir up the frightened crowd that is drying up the extreme.
              1. 0
                23 March 2020 22: 04
                I developed a rule for myself, in which case I should carefully watch religious fanatics.

                These are the following points.
                ...
                12) in times of epidemic catastrophes, the bioavailability of individuals increases, they become "plague seeders" or, according to Luther, the "demons" of epidemics;

                13) an epidemic catastrophe is perceived by people of different faiths as atonement for some common sins and causes them to need collective repentance and atonement;
                1. 0
                  23 March 2020 22: 11
                  Oh very accurate.
    2. 0
      23 March 2020 15: 28
      most men will be killed, mostly girls will survive

      They are already surviving more.
      1. 0
        23 March 2020 15: 58
        it is by age
        1. 0
          23 March 2020 20: 56
          it is by age

          The red bar (girls) is half the size of blue (boys). In addition to the age of 90. Mostly girls live there without the virus.
          Girls die in from the virus half as much. Interesting, huh?
          1. 0
            24 March 2020 06: 45
            very interesting
            1. 0
              24 March 2020 09: 13
              very interesting

              Perhaps the virus is a conspiracy of women.
              1. 0
                24 March 2020 09: 18
                to reduce the population of men?)))) men and so few in the world where else to reduce
                1. 0
                  24 March 2020 09: 26
                  to reduce the population of men?)))) men and so few in the world where else to reduce

                  Is logical. Then maybe the other way around? Are young people eliminating rich old rivals?
                  1. 0
                    24 March 2020 09: 41
                    and you have a rich old man a competitor for you?)))))
                    1. 0
                      24 March 2020 09: 49
                      and you have a rich old man a competitor for you?)))))

                      Well, I would not mind if their number decreased.
                      1. 0
                        24 March 2020 10: 17
                        old people will die only their money you will not get
  35. +3
    23 March 2020 13: 07
    The left trunk, which nobody knows about. Salt. Matches. Sugar. Stew. Condensed milk. Melted butter. Spices are a must. Lean oil. Cereals. Concentrates. Cereals that can be used as seed material. The container is durable and easy to disinfect. A dressing material made of fabric and not a bandage. Cloth on footcloths. Arafatki fabric is only natural, no synthetics. Liquid fuel. Clothing, for ginseng necessarily male. Manicure set, will help in the treatment of early. Knives, many and different, and means for good sharpening. Rechargeable flashlights and a power source for charging. Non-electric light sources to work even on moonshine. The moonshine is simple and reliable. Medicines, syringes, instrument sterilization tools, medical and herbal handbooks, glass syringes are desirable. Harnesses, ropes, ropes, paracord, bags, wire, cable. Buckets, cans, barrels empty about stock. A set of high-quality tools, saws and axes and hammers a lot, the rest without fanaticism, a lot of nails. The cart is big four-wheeled and small. Reference literature for which there is enough imagination. A walkie talkie such as Tokka, it’s fine if the family is big. Cheap but massive gold jewelry in half with jewelry to divert attention and exchange with fools. Like a lot more.
    1. 0
      23 March 2020 13: 15
      You have forgotten the main thing - a reliable cache if there is no house outside the city!
      1. +2
        23 March 2020 13: 21
        Only in the place where you live shyly. Synchron is a big-eyed present. Have everything where you live. And make sure that the neighbors are adequate and also have. Inadequate needs to be controlled and even soldered or cleaned up in case of very inadequacy. By the way, I forgot the smoke.
        1. 0
          23 March 2020 20: 27
          Quote: garri-lin
          By the way, I forgot the smoke.

          Not just a smoke. In addition to the stock of tobacco products, you need to have a lot of cheap alcohol. To exchange, of course. Liquid currency in the troubled period is, in fact, one of the hardest)) Ideally, have a moonshine and be able to use it.
          Well, medications, too, for sharing. Antipyretic, painkillers, antibiotics. You can also stock up on insulin - for it a separate category of people will give the last.
          Cynical, yes. But loners cannot survive otherwise. And it’s best to join a more or less healthy team, otherwise the result will be a little predictable ...))
          1. +1
            23 March 2020 20: 50
            Alcohol in the amount of several yashiks will fly away in a couple of weeks. It is better to have a moonshine. And I pointed it out. I forgot the yeast. Plus 40 degree vodka fades before 65 degree moonshine. And for stretches and for drinking and for disinfection. Every survivor will have a well-thought-out first-aid kit. The question is what to do when the medicine runs out or becomes unusable from inappropriate storage. To that and reference books herbalists. I know all about insulin. Mother is insulin dependent. When stored outside the refrigerator, it deteriorates. A month of summer and do nothing. And there is nothing to replace. Individuals and small groups of 5-7 people can not survive. Especially if they include old people and children. It is necessary to unite with adequate neighbors / relatives / friends. Looting will be in several waves. Will grow into established gangs. They will need to fight back.
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              23 March 2020 21: 46
              Quote: garri-lin
              And for grinding and for drinking and for disinfection

              Water is best for drinking. Any substances that "expand consciousness" - only for exchange, not for use. Otherwise, everything may end badly. In fact, I wrote about assets that were liquid in times of trouble, suitable for exchange for something really necessary. Which implies something like a functioning economic system and a certain semblance of order. Approximately the situation described in The Rat Tower (first half of the book). If you have read it, then you know what I mean.
              Fierce anarchy and chaos, when everyone cuts everyone and devours humanity, I do not consider. It all comes down to the number of trunks and hands that hold them.
              PS. Minus is not mine))
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                23 March 2020 21: 59
                I didn’t read the rat tower. Passed by. A primitive economy will always be. Or completely self-sufficient economy as a feudal. But there will always be conflicts. Liquidity is high. But there is one thing. This is a universal remedy. Domestic consumption will always be high. To drink this does not mean to get drunk unconscious. Drink to warm and to maintain strength during hard work. Drinking to relieve stress after another shootout with a gang. Drink to relieve poisoning from spoiled food. Drink for the company to strengthen relations within the team. There are a lot of reasons to drink. As well as fuel milking fixtures, refillable. Disinfector, reliable and affordable. Fuel for the generator. The basis for medical tinctures such as valerian and analogues.
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                  23 March 2020 22: 12
                  Quote: garri-lin
                  Drink to warm and to maintain strength during hard work. Drinking to relieve stress after another shootout with a gang. Drink to relieve poisoning from spoiled food. Drink for the company to strengthen relations within the team. Reasons to drink a lot

                  With groups drinking regularly and on various (including far-fetched) occasions, I am out of my way. I didn’t drink and I’m not going to start.
                  But if suddenly, please contact. I will exchange the alcohol I do not need for your gasoline, medicines, cereals and other "means to strengthen relations within the team"
                  laughing
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                    23 March 2020 22: 22
                    I personally produce an average of 100 120 liters of alcohol with a strength of 70 degrees per year. And it is double purification and non-accelerated fermentation. It takes 10 12 days. I think I will be provided with alcohol. And enough for everything. I will not feel the need to look on the side of the surrogate.
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    23 March 2020 14: 08
    Macaroni was invented in Italy primarily in order to increase the shelf life of flour. And well thought out, pasta can be stored for many years.
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    23 March 2020 14: 17
    Admit it, all the Marauders read?))
    As for shoes, definitely yes. From personal experience, it became clear when there was a fascination with hiking-alloys, that ordinary shoes are completely useless from the word, but berets are also far from ice. Ideal raid-tactical, albeit an expensive infection, but it is worth it, and expensive only at first glance, two pairs have been walking for ten years already, and everywhere, the wear is purely cosmetic. Normal shoes in this mode and the season will not last.
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    23 March 2020 17: 50
    According to the stories of relatives who survived the famine of the 30s and the famine of the blockade (no one died from the family), the first thing to buy is salt and coffee. You can survive on these two products.

    If we talk about the shelf life, then any product must be stored correctly. Therefore, flour can be stored for a couple of years (take a look for the sake of interest on the time of flour packaging in the store - a couple of months from the current date can be easily found). Or maybe not a day.
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      23 March 2020 19: 38
      Salt and coffee? It sounds somewhat absurd. And you can more fully. The nutritional value of coffee is doubtful.
      And in terms of storage there is one but. Even a terrible delay can be eaten. Cook longer. And the cereal infected with insects will be even a mid-day ordinary. While mold can harm.
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        23 March 2020 20: 21
        Saline solution is a disinfection and replenishment of fluid in the body, plus a number of therapeutic effects. Coffee is a famous tonic.

        In combination with a limited main diet, in the aggregate, it allows you to normally tolerate a lack of nutrition.
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          23 March 2020 20: 57
          Salt is a lot of things. Up to intravenous injection in case of blood loss. But the use of coffee is doubtful. Only as a barter. Excessive coffee can be harmful. Permanent consumption of tonic depletes the body.
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            23 March 2020 21: 44
            Some live on coffee - they drink 5-10 cups and nothing.
            And from the cup for food there will be nothing serious.
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              23 March 2020 21: 47
              Cup for food will not be anything. But not instead of food. Coffee is a good bonus and it is desirable but you should not focus on it. From a pack of coffee or cans of stew I will choose stew.
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    23 March 2020 17: 55
    Silly article - so much pathos, but in fact there will be a zilch. The water supply will break and without water you will spend a couple of days with all your cans of stew, cereals, and skin with glue for fixing shoes.

    So I remember how all the amusing "survivalists" from the same Donetsk or Lugansk, who before the war began, importantly and pathetically, exchanged reviews on emergency bags on their forums, measured stocks of cereals, explained to each other the device of the simplest trap for rabbits from scrap materials, at the first nimble, forgetting about their disturbing bags and stocks of cereals, dropping feces, dumped some to Kiev, some to Rostov.

    This is the practical price for all your "survival", ankle boots and daily calorie intake. hi
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    24 March 2020 10: 14
    The article is correct. I do it. My paranoia does not fail me. Stocks created a few months before the mass hysteria and the announcement of the coronavirus.
    In the event of a BP, everyone is evacuated out of town.
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    24 March 2020 23: 53
    A kind and useful article, though its implementation in an apartment, may run into some misunderstanding of the household ...
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    25 March 2020 10: 55
    The first thing to take care of in such a situation is not buckwheat, flour or butter at all, but shoes that are completely different.

    Thank you author! I finally realized why my wife needed two huge wardrobes filled exclusively with shoes. She's getting ready. To the apocalypse!
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    26 March 2020 01: 04
    misfortune never comes alone. let the crop still be. winter without snow, and the seeds are all imported or half so for sure.
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    26 March 2020 16: 32
    Very valuable advice !!! But only for 1941 !!! What a pair of shoes !!!? What are the slates? !!! I have only 5 pairs of shale !!! And there are slippers for swimming !!! Valenki, Husky, pairs 6 winter boots !!! And I'm not at all rich !!!! I don’t stutter about clothes !!! And everyone has it ....
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    29 March 2020 11: 26
    I recommend RPI (1 and 5 are optimal). Best of all is the Baryshevsky Combine. Cream cheese is bitter for everyone, the rest is suitable. Price in Vladivostok from 250.