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Ukraine's experience: how not to deal with a pandemic

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Ukraine's experience: how not to deal with a pandemic

The ongoing struggle against the coronavirus epidemic in Ukraine today gives us truly invaluable examples ... It is absolutely not worth it to do this categorically. The decisions made there both at the governmental level and by local authorities, not only surprise with their sometimes absurdity of thoughtlessness, but also lead to results directly opposite to those for which they, in fact, were implemented. Consider the situation with two specific examples.


As the first we take the closure of the subway in all cities of Ukraine, where there is one - in Kiev, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk (Dnipro). It would seem quite reasonable and reasonable measure: thousands of people in enclosed spaces are an ideal environment for the spread of the virus. However, at the same time, no one cancels the need for citizens to move daily, at least to the workplace and home after the end of the working day. After all, none of those in power in the “non-fallow” did not even think of stuttering about financial compensation for forced self-isolation. You are not on foot in megacities, therefore, only ground transportation remains.

As planned by city officials, all types of municipal transport, as well as fixed-route taxis, were supposed to function normally, while picking up no more than 10-20 passengers per cabin. What did it translate into reality? Into wild lines, a stampede, scandals reaching the assault at stops and in the trams themselves, trolleybuses, minibuses. Not even the police forces urgently left to restore order and taming passions do not help. Additional nervousness to passengers is added by the absence of some of them with medical masks, without which travel is prohibited. It’s absolutely impossible to purchase this goods, which instantly turned into a terrible shortage, essential goods in most Ukrainian cities.

However, the closure of the metro and the complete abolition of suburban communications gave rise to another, much more serious, problem. In all major cities of Ukraine, and, above all, in Kiev, medical institutions were under the threat of a complete halt to their activities! The crisis that erupted suddenly revealed something that no one had ever thought about before: up to 70-80% of the staff of hospitals, clinics and diagnostic centers are just residents of the suburbs, who now simply have no physical opportunity to get to workplaces. This is especially true for the junior medical staff - nurses and nurses, however, a considerable number of doctors were also cut off from their offices by an irresistible distance. How does the authorities react to this incident?

As far as I know, the Minister of Health of Ukraine Ilya Emets, who not so long ago dazzled the country with the assertion that “all pensioners will die out of the coronavirus,” says something extremely slurred about the allegedly “negotiations with the transport companies about organizing the delivery of doctors to hospitals”. In reality, the Ministry of Health sends medical institutions recommendations on “independent organization of transportation,” without at all specifying exactly how, by what forces and, most importantly, by what means this should be done. In some cities in Viber and other “dormitories” chats “take the doctor to work” are spontaneously organized, demonstrating the truth of the words that saving the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves ...

At the same time, the problems of the country's most important vital activity branch, the medical one, are far from being limited only to the transport collapse. According to doctors and nurses, they have virtually no protective equipment — even elementary masks and respirators, not to mention specialized “plague suits”. Work clothes (bathrobes, hats, etc.) are distributed for washing at home, as if there was no epidemic at all. What will such a case with the wide spread of the virus lead to? Firstly, to the mass infections and deaths of the physicians themselves (this was already in China). Secondly, to the fact that as a result, the remaining doctors and nurses will either scatter somewhere, or hospitals from outposts of the fight against the epidemic will turn into its nurseries.

After the first day of the “crazy house” transport that was taking place in Kiev, the secretary of the capital city council, Vladimir Prokopiv, hinted that the metro should still be opened, albeit “with restrictions.” However, both the higher city authorities in the person of Mayor Vitali Klitschko and the country's Prime Minister Denis Shmygal, who categorically denied even the slightest possibility of the “underground” operation, immediately started to blink on him. According to the prime minister, this will inevitably lead to the fact that "2 million people will be infected every day."

How many Ukrainians can become victims of the coronavirus, and how many - the thoughtless actions of the authorities “fighting” with it, is extremely difficult to predict.
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  1. Gunner
    Gunner 20 March 2020 17: 41 New
    18
    The result of the election of a clown as president of the country.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 20 March 2020 18: 14 New
      -76
      The result of the election of a clown as president of the country.

      This also applies to many other countries, including the neighboring one to the east. In which, however, they were "elected" with a huge stretch, up to 146%. Well done, they washed the bones of the country with a fork. In Russia, it would be useful to know that the cat cried out for infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists, traumatologists, proctologists and gynecologists who have caught the coronavirus are trying to treat, the hospitals designated for quarantine are already overcrowded, and everything needed is imported, incl. artificial lung ventilation devices, critical for saving people. Their partners will not sell, they themselves need what to do? Chuckle about amendments, if they are not okay? Military medicine, as in China, which, by the way, is on the mend, is not mobilized. Why? Because from her only horns and legs remained. How many more must die for enlightenment in the brain to come?
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 20 March 2020 18: 20 New
        +3
        Probably, the author is a supporter of "our" method of struggle - when grandmothers use torches from newspapers to make three circular movements in one direction and three in the other. This is an experience! laughing
        1. krot
          krot 21 March 2020 06: 40 New
          +7
          Sumerians until they remove their pots, they will have this forever. But when the pots are removed, then the authorities will be punished for all their deeds! In the UK of Russia, daddies are neatly collected for each.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 21 March 2020 21: 12 New
            +5
            Quote: krot
            Sumerians until they remove their pots,

            they won’t take them off ... that’s why they reached the current state !!! request
      2. primaala
        primaala 20 March 2020 18: 21 New
        35
        Quote: lexus
        The result of the election of a clown as president of the country.

        This also applies to many other countries, including the neighboring one to the east. In which, however, they were "elected" with a huge stretch, up to 146%. Well done, they washed the bones of the country with a fork. In Russia, it would be useful to know that the cat cried out for infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists, traumatologists, proctologists and gynecologists who have caught the coronavirus are trying to treat, the hospitals designated for quarantine are already overcrowded, and everything needed is imported, incl. artificial lung ventilation devices, critical for saving people. Their partners will not sell, they themselves need what to do? Chuckle about amendments, if they are not okay? Military medicine, as in China, which, by the way, is on the mend, is not mobilized. Why? Because from her only horns and legs remained. How many more must die for enlightenment in the brain to come?

        Why lie??? What is your goal? Tell Hodor, in vain he pays you money. And tell Nadezhdin, let not shame. Baryusik daily carry a muzzle across the screen, but he stands and is afraid to meow. You are funny bots.
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          1. Mestny
            Mestny 20 March 2020 18: 53 New
            33
            No, you nifig's boots aren’t funny. You are hysterical and evil.
            ETOGES you must hate the place you live in ... Miracles.
            I don’t see any questions to ask you.
            I’ll say for the rest - everything you wrote is insolent, stupid lies.
            A site for teens might do.
            But not yet here.
          2. svp67
            svp67 20 March 2020 19: 46 New
            35
            Quote: lexus
            Denying the obvious is either a stage of debility or a bipolar
            Well, why panic? What are you doing this for? Specifically, in which region are infectious hospitals crowded?
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 20 March 2020 20: 14 New
              -43
              Specifically, in which region are infectious hospitals crowded?

              Sergey, in Moscow. I answered here on a branch. There is no panic, only an analysis of the situation. Not biased.
              1. svp67
                svp67 20 March 2020 20: 27 New
                23
                Quote: lexus
                Sergey, in Moscow

                Well, where, and in Moscow they will find the opportunity to fight this ailment, but I don’t worry about it. I am more concerned about other regions of the country
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 20 March 2020 20: 32 New
                  -25
                  Well, where, and in Moscow they will find the opportunity to fight this ailment, but I don’t worry about it.

                  Is it for everyone? Ordinary Muscovites are not so sure. On Friday they usually go to their "historical homeland". In Ryazan today there are no fewer cars with Moscow license plates compared to Friday. Are they all healthy is a good question.
                  I am more concerned about other regions of the country

                  Take care of yourself and your loved ones. And be healthy. hi
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 21 March 2020 07: 34 New
                    +2
                    Quote: lexus
                    Ordinary Muscovites are not so sure.

                    Here the thing is that either everyone wins, or everyone dies out ...
            2. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 21 March 2020 06: 53 New
              +5
              Greetings hi I agree that there is no need to panic; in our region, a similar flu with lung complication was ill before the new year, around the beginning of December.
              1. Vadim02rus
                Vadim02rus 21 March 2020 08: 13 New
                +1
                a similar flu with lung complication was ill before the new year
                I'm in the year before, my wife is. The feeling was not pleasant. Like sand poured into the lungs. When coughing, severe pain in the chest.
                1. Tank jacket
                  Tank jacket 21 March 2020 09: 07 New
                  +3
                  I myself was not sick, I have immunity, but my 2nd colleagues were ill without consequences.
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 21 March 2020 17: 46 New
                    +9
                    alcohol fights that virus at a time, verified!
                    1. Tank jacket
                      Tank jacket 21 March 2020 18: 13 New
                      +6
                      I also read that Russian vodka as a preventive measure helps a lot ... I mainly use onions and garlic, horseradish, mustard, black and red pepper, blackcurrant fruit drink. I drink a lot of tea, my hands 1 time per hour.
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 21 March 2020 18: 16 New
                        +7
                        not bad too, but thump?
                      2. Tank jacket
                        Tank jacket 21 March 2020 18: 21 New
                        +4
                        I can drink too drinks but to plump request
                      3. novel66
                        novel66 21 March 2020 18: 25 New
                        +7
                        oh, buddy, drink or thump - a question of terminology, each has its own measure - the soul !. but the virus is afraid of us. checked
                      4. Tank jacket
                        Tank jacket 21 March 2020 18: 31 New
                        +4
                        Us-bear takes nothing yes
                      5. novel66
                        novel66 21 March 2020 18: 52 New
                        +8
                        Well. and they’re building a vaccine - your blood serum and the virus will go away
                      6. Tank jacket
                        Tank jacket 21 March 2020 19: 09 New
                        +4
                        Novel, buddy, I don’t feel sorry for the blood, only who needs this serum in the Russian Federation, I will repeat the virus already before the new year, those who did not have immunity to it, I have it, others have already acquired within 10-14 days ..
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 20 March 2020 18: 44 New
    -34
    Quote: primaala
    Why lie??? What is your goal? Tell Hodor, in vain he pays you money

    Lord Where do you come from? And so it’s clumsy to work out three silver coins, even though you read your manuals, everything is probably painted there, how to drown for the current feudal lords.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 20 March 2020 18: 52 New
      30
      Quote: lis-ik
      Lord Where do you come from? And so clumsyly work out three silver coins ...

      And what, in fact, is wrong? Lexus isn't lying, is it? Lies, and avidly yes

      And constantly laughing
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 20 March 2020 19: 06 New
        -17
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: lis-ik
        Lord Where do you come from? And so clumsyly work out three silver coins ...

        And what, in fact, is wrong? Lexus isn't lying, is it? Lies, and avidly yes

        And constantly laughing

        I'm talking about clumsy and bazaar delivery, but about the virus in general, I think that this is the next fishing in troubled waters, i.e. panic and excitement are not justified.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 20 March 2020 19: 13 New
          26
          Quote: lis-ik
          I'm talking about clumsy and bazaar feed,

          Well, the supply, of course, is not the best ... but the original, IMHO - corresponds to:

          Quote: lexus
          ... the cat burst into tears of infectionists and epidemiologists, traumatologists, proctologists and gynecologists caught the coronavirus, are trying to treat, the quarantined hospitals are already full ...

          Well this is just some trash and sodomy request
        2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 March 2020 19: 29 New
          -15
          [quote = lis-ik] than constantly laughing[/ Quote]
          I'm talking about clumsy and bazaar delivery, but about the virus in general, I think that this is the next fishing in troubled waters, i.e. panic and hype are not justified. [/ quote]

          There is no coronavirus on you !!! I wish to get sick. fellow
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi 20 March 2020 19: 46 New
            +9
            Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
            There is no coronavirus on you !!! I wish to get sick.

            You’ll laugh, but you most likely got sick and didn’t notice this crowned virus.
            Statistics in Spain - from January 1, 1 person died from coronavirus. From flu - 470.
            Moreover, the risk group is one and the same - those over 60.
            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 March 2020 19: 58 New
              -2
              For some reason, Olya, I don’t know where and when I was ill with something.
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi 21 March 2020 09: 11 New
                +4
                Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                For some reason, Olya, I don’t know where and when I was ill with something.

                In 70% of cases, infection is completely asymptomatic. In 25% - it looks like a cold - fever, sore throat, cough. 5% - severe course.
                On quarantine Princess (cruise ship) 700 people fell ill. The remaining 6 thousand went ashore healthy - they probably breathed with a spherical vacuum.
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 20 March 2020 20: 38 New
              +8
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              Statistics in Spain - from January 1, 1 person died from coronavirus. From flu - 470.

              And in Italy over the last day - 627 hooves were thrown back. I don’t panic by accident, no? recourse
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 20 March 2020 21: 48 New
                +8
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                And in Italy in the last day - 627 hooves threw back

                Quote: About Italy
                Fertility: an average of 1 children per day (414 per hour); Mortality: an average of 58.91 people per day (1 per hour)

                This is without any cow viruses.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 20 March 2020 21: 54 New
                  -4
                  So add another 1588 to these 627s, or not?
                2. Simple
                  Simple 21 March 2020 21: 25 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  So add another 1588 to these 627s, or not?


                  Add.
                  What "Golovan Jack" cited is the usual statistics.
                  And the need for action, as in the following photo, they do not cause.

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            4. Liam
              Liam 20 March 2020 22: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Statistics in Spain - from January 1, 1 person died from coronavirus. From flu - 470.

              The delirious number of patients in Spain is already 20.000. The deaths are more than 1 thousand. Over the last day, about 500
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 20 March 2020 22: 11 New
                -4
                Quote: Liam
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Statistics in Spain - from January 1, 1 person died from coronavirus. From flu - 470.

                These are not my words. I did not write this. To Sarcasmi all questions. request
              2. Liam
                Liam 20 March 2020 22: 13 New
                -2
                I know. It's just that you are a sane person with whom you can discuss. Unlike the original source
              3. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 20 March 2020 22: 17 New
                -3
                wink
                Quote: Liam
                Persian

                This is the reason why I’m an Iranian? belay And I got it, if you recall the ancient history. It may be so, but it was a long time ago and not true. wink
              4. Liam
                Liam 20 March 2020 22: 20 New
                0
                Genetics say all people are brothers.
              5. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 20 March 2020 22: 22 New
                -1
                Quote: Liam
                Genetics say all people are brothers.

                And I corrected the comment above.
              6. Liam
                Liam 20 March 2020 22: 25 New
                +1
                Togla and I will correct the previous one. All Persian people
            5. Oyo Sarkazmi
              Oyo Sarkazmi 21 March 2020 09: 23 New
              +3
              Quote: Liam
              Genetics say all people are brothers.

              but 1,5 million of them are genghisides request
            6. Simple
              Simple 21 March 2020 21: 32 New
              0
              Quote: Liam
              Genetics say all people are brothers.


              They also say that 7% of the human genetic code are of viral origin.
  • Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi 21 March 2020 09: 16 New
    +3
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    And in Italy over the last day - 627 hooves were thrown back. I don’t panic by accident, no?

    A vivid example when insurance companies reward doctors for the lack of patients. Therefore, doctors do their best to avoid sending patients to the hospital. I came to the doctor (which is called the district doctor in Russia), he was given paracetamol, and lie down. That’s all the praised Western medicine. Moreover, judging by the reviews blamed for Europe on Zen (which Yandex), this is a practice in Spain, and Germany, and Holland.
  • Looking for
    Looking for 21 March 2020 17: 18 New
    0
    According to published data in a Bloomberg article, 99,2% of Italians who died from coronavirus had kidney failure, diabetes, dementia, heart problems, and the like.

    In addition, 48,5% of those who died in Italy had three or more of these diseases. HOPE YOU CLEAR?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 21 March 2020 17: 32 New
      -4
      Quote: Seeker
      HOPE YOU CLEAR?

      Clear. It is clear to me that YOU SEEKING AND FINDING UNDERSTANDING THAT DOES NOT HAVE RELATIVES WITH THE ABOVE DISEASES, or simply OLD.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 20 March 2020 22: 05 New
    +5
    Statistics in Spain - from January 1, 1 person died from coronavirus.

    Today in Spain
    Sick - 18077
    In serious and critical condition - 563
    Died - 831
    Recovered -1107
    hi
    1. Liam
      Liam 20 March 2020 22: 11 New
      -1
      Over 1000 deaths have passed in Spain. Gaining momentum.
      According to WHO, the first 100.000 were infected in 3 months, the next 100.000 in just 12 days
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 20 March 2020 22: 43 New
        +4
        Quote: Liam
        Over 1000 deaths have passed in Spain. Gaining momentum.
        According to WHO, the first 100.000 were infected in 3 months, the next 100.000 in just 12 days

        You are right.
        Sick - 20410
        Died - 1043
        Sick -1588
      2. Liam
        Liam 20 March 2020 23: 05 New
        0
        Dynamics and statistics are becoming more and more like Italian. There are a lot of questions to the Chinese and Iranian figures
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 20 March 2020 19: 59 New
    +6
    Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
    There is no coronavirus on you !!! I wish to get sick.

    We have been ill with them regularly and seasonally throughout recent history, called the flu. Influenza in itself is a rather dangerous disease, especially if carried on the legs, then complications are possible that sometimes die, especially if you are far beyond 70 years old. As for your wishes, you need to be treated, especially your head and upbringing. Buckwheat at least stocked up?
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 March 2020 20: 04 New
      +2
      And according to your comments of the type, it becomes clear that you are notorious and one of the best virologists in the World.
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 20 March 2020 20: 08 New
        -4
        Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
        And according to your comments of the type, it becomes clear that you are notorious and one of the best virologists in the World.

        Panic further. Because of people like you I ate nose drops yesterday, I bought a lady in front of me at the pharmacy for 15 tr.
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 20 March 2020 20: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: lis-ik
          Panic further. Because of people like you I ate nose drops yesterday, I bought a lady in front of me at the pharmacy for 15 tr.


          This endless thing is stupidity. As the sages said, all a person loses over the years: youth, beauty, health, impulses of ambition. And only one stupidity never leaves people.
        2. Rzzz
          Rzzz 20 March 2020 22: 42 New
          +1
          I, too, a few days ago lurked in a pharmacy for a rather large amount, although less than that aunt. X3, how it will turn out, but there are several vital medicines that I and my family need, which are only imported. If the borders are closed - die? And so at least for six months there.
        3. Vadim02rus
          Vadim02rus 21 March 2020 08: 21 New
          0
          If the borders are closed - die? And so at least for six months there.

          Astana and Almaty have been closed since the 22nd. In Almaty, the whole LCD is cordoned off. I also have imported drugs, I had to stock up. At the expense of the deficit FIG knows, but the fact that prices will rise is unique.
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  • primaala
    primaala 20 March 2020 19: 55 New
    +9
    I'm talking about clumsy and bazaar feed
    ====================
    My feed matches your think tank. When you learn to conduct a constructive dialogue, without arrogant far-fetched lies, then we will look at the "clumsy".
  • Mestny
    Mestny 20 March 2020 18: 55 New
    +9
    Read yours.
    What is written about crowded hospitals?
    Your hands are short, one dirty tongue.
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 20 March 2020 19: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Mestny
      Read yours.
      What is written about crowded hospitals?
      Your hands are short, one dirty tongue.

      Good mister, I didn’t write about hospitals at all, and I relate to the virus, as it should be, like to ordinary flu.
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 21 March 2020 14: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: lis-ik
        Quote: Mestny
        Read yours.
        What is written about crowded hospitals?
        Your hands are short, one dirty tongue.

        Good mister, I didn’t write about hospitals at all, and I relate to the virus, as it should be, like to ordinary flu.


        Read less and watch news about the coronavirus. You will be happy and die without knowing what.
  • Mechanocleap
    Mechanocleap 20 March 2020 18: 32 New
    +7
    And how many have already died precisely from the coronovirus? I ask you to answer only with confirmed data, and not with the stories of the grandmother of the driveway about millions ...
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 20 March 2020 20: 44 New
      -4
      Quote: Mechnocleap
      And how many have died precisely from the coronovirus?

      The total number of coronavirus infected SARS-CoV-2 exceeded 265 thousand people. 11,1 thousand died, more than 90,6 thousand were cured.

      https://lenta.ru/news/2020/03/20/4_thousand_deaths/?utm_campaign=breaking-news&utm_medium=browser-notification&utm_source=push-notification
    2. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi 21 March 2020 09: 20 New
      +2
      Since mortality from coronavirus - only from concomitant diseases - ischemia, diabetes, hypertension - it is completely impossible to distinguish mortality from coronavirus from complications of other diseases.
      But the flu is still more dangerous.
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    4. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 21 March 2020 14: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Mechnocleap
      And how many have already died precisely from the coronovirus? I ask you to answer only with confirmed data, and not with the stories of the grandmother of the driveway about millions ...


      And it’s bad for you to think about it.
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  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 20 March 2020 18: 33 New
    20
    Quote: lexus
    up to 146%

    A lie does not paint a person ...
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 20 March 2020 19: 06 New
      -21
      Lopatov, you look undignified in this company, like the best commentator. With MLRS you, however, did not do much better. Constructive from the gang "for the king" you will not wait, but only


      So how do you, in fact, differ from skakuas?
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 20 March 2020 19: 30 New
        27
        Quote: lexus
        Shovels, you look solid in this company

        It is shameful to recall "146 percent" - the most vile example of manipulation by the so-called propagandists. "opposition"

        It is clear that the majority of the population has never read the laws "On elections" ... But you can't use this so basely, making fools out of people.

        Here it is.
        People do not particularly distinguish between ventilators, which are enough and ECMO devices, which are few, but they will be needed only for those who do not even have ventilators.
        And for what purpose are people misled, for what purpose are fools made of people? The question is rhetorical
      2. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 20 March 2020 19: 55 New
        15
        Quote: lexus
        Lopatov, you look undignified in this company, like the best commentator. With MLRS you, however, did not do much better. Constructive from the gang "for the king" you will not wait, but only


        So how do you, in fact, differ from skakuas?

        And you imitate orgasm concern about the Russians. Although I would like to see all the Russians in Babi Yar.
      3. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 21 March 2020 21: 23 New
        +5
        Quote: lexus
        Lopatov, you in this company look solid, like the best commentator

        what your company - eHspert on eHspert and eHspert drives !!! wassat lol
  • evgic
    evgic 20 March 2020 18: 34 New
    +4
    Vyser justify your. Or shut the brahalovka
  • Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 20 March 2020 18: 45 New
    20
    Quote: lexus
    traumatologists, proctologists and gynecologists are trying to treat coronavirus

    What, for a couple of hundred patients in the country there were no doctors? Horror-horror belay

    Quote: lexus
    quarantined hospitals are already full

    Yah? Where is this?

    Quote: lexus
    How much more must die in order for enlightenment in the brain to come?

    Are you inside yourself, buddies? wink
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 20 March 2020 18: 57 New
      -26
      Sit back, believing in the "dollar 77", and shut up. Svarog turned out to be right, but you have enough mind only for missing punctuation marks, obviously.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 20 March 2020 19: 15 New
        16
        Quote: lexus
        you have enough mind to indicate missing punctuation marks

        Well, for the time being I’m telling a lie from the truth yes

        Duc here, "Lexus", you are lying like ... no, it's a pity to offend a horse ... you are lying like a goblin. Here laughing
      2. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 20 March 2020 20: 03 New
        12
        Quote: lexus
        Sit back a dollar 77 believer and keep your mouth shut

        I will say a terrible thing - Boeing has lost 70% of its "capitalization" since January. And the mustache does not blow. For there is undressing of hamsters with a short shoulder. Those who bought shares at the maximum for six months or a year.
        At us the Central Bank at a maximum merges dollars. As in 2014, hamsters grabbed $ 80 each, but it took and rolled back ...
        1. Shkworen
          Shkworen 20 March 2020 20: 34 New
          +6
          my friend bought 79.5 dollars for 12500, with the expectation of selling them when the price reaches 100, and now bites his elbows :)
          hopes that at least it will rise in price to 85 so that they can be quickly thrown off :)
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 March 2020 19: 09 New
    14
    Quote: lexus
    How much more must die in order for enlightenment in the brain to come?

    You are a brazen liar, dear ...
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 20 March 2020 19: 48 New
      -24
      If that’s all, then it’s liquid. Where is the rebuttal? And I have the facts. A friend in Moscow works in a hospital. All 400 quarantine places are full, 4 are installed, they all lie together, which means they will also be ill together. In Ryazan at the office. The data for the morning today was 247 with suspicion and 5 confirmed. Write to Hunter 2 in Tyumen, he is also devalued, but, here, I think, I dare not lie. Respect from you would be akin to shame ..
      1. Orkraider
        Orkraider 20 March 2020 20: 27 New
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        Quote: lexus
        If that’s all, then it’s liquid. Where is the rebuttal? And I have the facts. ..


        For such facts, they put against the walls during the Second World War. For alarmism ...
        On March 21.03.2020, 8, 27 PCR laboratories began to work in Moscow. By the 10th, they will reach 000 studies.
        Plus, a separate laboratory opens in Kommunarka.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 20 March 2020 21: 12 New
          -20
          set against the wall during the Second World War.

          You and the devalued would have been set up, and your banners were burnt on Red Square.
          On March 21.03.2020, 8, 27 PCR laboratories began to work in Moscow. By the 10th, they will reach 000 studies.
          Plus, a separate laboratory opens in Kommunarka.

          Agitation, slogans and projections again hide behind. Unreal.
          1. Orkraider
            Orkraider 20 March 2020 22: 31 New
            13
            Are you normal
            You can win only by discipline and clear execution of commands. Regarding the overflow and other things, I recommend watching an official interview with the heads of the Kommunarka doctor Denis Protsenka.

            His slanderous phrase about stupid people is very topic ..

            May the moderators forgive me for the link to YouTube: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=YH_JneVhBLE
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 01: 17 New
            +4
            Quote: lexus
            Quote: Orkraider
            On March 21.03.2020, 8, 27 PCR laboratories began to work in Moscow. By the 10th will be released in a volume of 000 studies

            Agitation, slogans and projections again hide behind


            21.03 is already today, Lexus. Kamrad Orkraider right, you are not.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 20 March 2020 20: 44 New
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        Quote: lexus
        And I have the facts.

        laughing laughing laughing
        Quote: lexus
        In Ryazan at the office. The data for the morning today was 247 with suspicion and 5 confirmed.

        Oh, and it burned, and so cheaply.negative Everything can be demolished. yes
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 20 March 2020 21: 18 New
          -18
          Oh, it burned.

          Are you talking to yourself? Well, condolences.
          Everything can be demolished.

          Yes, there was a miscarriage of the "order". The defective scraps survived and grew fat. The zeros were swollen here too. Wretchedness won't catch me.
        2. primaala
          primaala 20 March 2020 21: 19 New
          10
          Quote: Paranoid50
          Quote: lexus
          And I have the facts.

          laughing laughing laughing
          Quote: lexus
          В Ryazan[b] [/ b] at the office. The data for the morning today was 247 with suspicion and 5 confirmed.

          Oh, and it burned, and so cheaply.negative Everything can be demolished. yes

          =====================
          lol ... Baryusik burnt down. (nimagus laugh).
          I can smell them (black monitor))
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 20 March 2020 23: 05 New
            -11
            I can smell them (black monitor))

            I don't even know what to attach to the camera. Everywhere I have strands cleaner than your nasopharynx. "Smell" someone else, please. Apparently you have an urgent need for this, and such cannot be denied.
          2. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 20 March 2020 23: 57 New
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            Quote: primaala
            I smell

            However, it gives away rot, carrion. am But the paradox: exactly what it broadcasts here (at least for now), throwing in decalitres of nonsense, confirms the absence of any mega-threat. For in any really threatened period (war, mass pestilence, etc.) all this husk will simply be taken out of circulation like a weed, and not a single bearded human rights activist will fit in with them, yeah. By the way, yesterday in St. Petersburg we punched one of these - it turned out to be a small huckster (businessman), who immediately realized everything sharply. They strictly warned and released (for now) under surveillance, making the case public. And immediately, the amount of stuffing dropped sharply somehow. Voila yes And no one takes these local snoters in earnest, so while hesitating, they are beeping. But again, for the time being. hi
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 21 March 2020 00: 41 New
              -5
              "It", that is. are you ready to publicize your lousy growth at least to answer a VO? To start. 70 thousand in two days with mindless and deceitful comments? It is your blessing that my Windows flew away, otherwise the Administration would be interested in an unprecedented increase in the chicken coop, the one that it dispersed two years ago. And, of course, zero "admirals" have nothing to show themselves, except for rudeness and fattening branches "sashapashaserezharevetov". It never comes to light that cardboard shoulder straps are quoted only among the poor, and the normal are respected for something else. And the fact that the respected Administration of the site, Roman Skomorokhov, Timokhin, Shpakovsky and others - are not "field marshals" for your clique does not say anything? You are ridiculous and simple-minded to me. I have nothing to discuss with the surviving bum of the "Order".
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 01: 00 New
                +5
                Quote: lexus
                ... cardboard epaulets only among the wretched are quoted ...

                ..., which, however, does not prevent you, my friend, from spending time free from sketches observing "who has grown and how much." Strange, isn't it? wink

                Quote: lexus
                70 thousand for two days with brainless and deceitful comments?

                Are you talking about Paranoid? Brainless and deceitful, speak? Oh ... who would say laughing

                Quote: lexus
                ... zero "admirals" have nothing to show, except rudeness and fattening branches ...

                Well, why .. here your company, for example, is quite interesting for itself, in "gastronomic" terms. And in this case, comrade very competently you left classified, IMHO, Avon as flatters something ... belay
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 21 March 2020 01: 41 New
                  -4
                  Golovany is a fictional intelligent race of the Midday world created by the Strugatsky brothers. Their home planet is Saraksh. The first contact between the Earth and the Golovans was made in 2157 by Maxim Kammerer, and three years later full-fledged diplomatic relations were established between the two races.

                  I am not at war with fiction. But you and your clique look ridiculous, like Elvira and Gavrilov on the Penza-Kopeysk highway.
      3. LifeIsGood
        LifeIsGood 21 March 2020 13: 44 New
        +4
        O_o and where did you see the facts here? The statement "My friend works and told me ..." is crap akin to "It is written on the fence ..." or "It’s a big secret that Baba Dusya from the neighboring yard told me ..."
        Do you seriously think that such nonsense can even convince anyone? Apparently the disease is up to you, but not the coranovirus, but something worse and clearly affecting the mind.
        Condolences ...
    2. LMN
      LMN 20 March 2020 20: 39 New
      11
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Quote: lexus
      How much more must die in order for enlightenment in the brain to come?

      You are a brazen liar, dear ...

      Yes, they lie! And do not be shy.
  • Baloo
    Baloo 20 March 2020 20: 10 New
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    Quote: lexus
    In Russia, it would be useful to know that the cat cried out for infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists, traumatologists, proctologists and gynecologists caught the coronavirus, are trying to treat, the quarantined hospitals are already full, and everything needed is import,

    What kind of nonsense? I have an infectious diseases hospital opposite. Those who were brought from the ship almost all were discharged. There was a Negro volleyball player and a couple more, they are recovering without any mechanical ventilation.
    Quote: lexus
    mechanical ventilation apparatus, critical for saving people. Their partners will not sell, they themselves need what to do?

    We have more ventilation devices in Tataria than in Italy - the high authorities reported. Can you turn to a sex therapist, talk about your problems. Well, what do you worry about global problems right away?
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  • Gunner
    Gunner 20 March 2020 20: 28 New
    +3
    You don’t tell me like ours, everything here is not as you imagine. Watch yourself, otherwise you will become a hotbed of infection in the world and you will be disinfected with napalm
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 20 March 2020 20: 57 New
    +9
    Quote: lexus
    In Russia, it would be useful to know that the cat cried out for infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists, traumatologists, proctologists and gynecologists were trying to treat the coronavirus, the hospitals allocated for quarantine are already full,

    The cat by the way does not cry. The cat works tirelessly. And this is what he (the Cat) gained:

    "We'll take the Chinese into zamishatilstvi and while we hold the golden Siridine, they say, SHIELD has been beaten, but isolated cases have been won, but shield victory ... yes ... yes ... yes ... well, we will use gyros in the end, I think, well, for kavo Still, do it with gyro, well, great for now, because we are like a ba under suspicion, because the Russians and no fighter as they see, how the planted sibya see - no organized hysteria can be seen, but this is a serious attitude to the problem, besides, the Most Serene One is not personal, does not fall into obscurity, obchim sees sibya as if this is some kind of angina and not an armagian ... obchim we are suspected of speaking, as long as they do not know which iminna speak and what is specific, the conspiracy is concluded and how the price of oil is connected with viruses to stick together they can - but they are sewing a conspiracy for us, so the Chinese will be gyros ... this will suit us.
    The local mouse already read its fellow fellow for reason from the West and stuck out appeals, saying that we demand that we treat this terrible crown with heyha viruses .. well, our people cannot be reproached that they don’t perform any rituals for the Crown virus because someone gets out of time and announces that measures have been taken, they say, this terrible shit will never leave us, we will catch it .. Then this one will disappear and the mouse yells, they say, this specialist does not search around the clock ?! ..tada climbs out the next specialist, uzho f dressing gown and announces that stabilization has stabilized, amplification has increased and outgrowth has grown, as well as improvements have improved and cleansing has been cleansed ... and leaves. People are reassuring, because FSE comrade f dressing gown clearly stated, FSEM it is clear that FSE Delaizza by someone somewhere ... Cho FSE? Well fso cho should be intensified, but cho should be improved - improved, well, well, they said, why should I argue? ... and no one is sick because there is no reason - comrade F robe was calm and the FSO explained in detail about the improvement ... But the mouse is not happy, because this is Nada - the whole West is sick and Valyaitsa, the funeral is rigorous and packs, and there is such a big deal! and they’re clipping the appeals - they demand to raise a tantrum to a normal level, where we can start to bury hundreds of people and cry on the ehaf broadcasts of the mouse host ...

    We will teach our mouse nizovizlo, from fchira they found the necessary corpse coronary virus deceased from the virus f, but not the point - the citizen died of something else and from hard work. I suggest that the mouse begin to go ono in the cemeteries and consider the dead man — by the end of the day, declare all the deceased to have died coronary virus and demand the issuance of gas masks to the population and, of course, the most important thing is to abolish the vote for the Constitution, for this is the main goal, this is clear I think .. Neither does the people want to die from the nipoichimo, and continue to die from that from the FAQ and the earlier ... amusing little people and their president is not the same ... such a bid from a mouse.

    News from the Cat. The text in the original, I do not accept claims for spelling. hi
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 20 March 2020 21: 36 New
      +8
      Quote: Vladimir_6
      Original text, I do not accept claims for spelling

      He mastered it, but with difficulty. Kotu - for thoughts - "good", and urgently learn Russian. And then not all of us here speak Albany request laughing
      1. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 20 March 2020 21: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: Vladimir_6
        Original text, I do not accept claims for spelling

        He mastered it, but with difficulty. Kotu - for thoughts - "good", and urgently learn Russian. And then not all of us here speak Albany request laughing

        If you have a desire, I can throw off the link to the original. hi
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 20 March 2020 21: 57 New
          +4
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          I can throw off the link to the original

          Yes, I have already found:

          a cat in the morning drank coffee, gobbled up a fist with poppies, did exercises for about half a year, and a tiperee stood pyrite a mirror and bawled songs /
          Yeah I shuuuut, I tsyrkaaaaach, so shtooo zhaaaaaaaa .....
          1. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 20 March 2020 22: 06 New
            +5
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Yes, I have already found:

            I have been with Motey since 2016. It took some time to begin to understand his texts. Maybe you will like it.
  • raw174
    raw174 20 March 2020 22: 49 New
    +4
    Quote: lexus
    How much more must die in order for enlightenment in the brain to come?

    In general, you’re right about medicine, it’s in decline, but with regards to the coronovirus, in my opinion the situation has been artificially promoted to the level of mass hysteria in order to cause chaos. Someone in the world will not get rich at the exchange unrest ... The devil is not so terrible and in a couple of months, or even earlier, everything will calm down.
  • Alexey Polyutkin
    Alexey Polyutkin 21 March 2020 02: 39 New
    +5
    Which hospitals are crowded? By whom? Are you raving The authorities may conceal the scale of the pandemic in Russia, but personally, I don’t know a single acquaintance who has had a coronovirus. You're lying. Brazenly and unprincipled.
  • Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 21 March 2020 06: 45 New
    +1
    snot prodteri, crow
  • akribos
    akribos 21 March 2020 08: 04 New
    0
    We have the same situation. There are no masks. Des There are no funds. Propaganda on TV is good, less panic. However, this does not save from a lack of basic hygiene products. Masks in the country are bought instantly by millions of pieces for resale in China, despite the ban. In the Stavropol kr. there was no chief epidemiologist, a man who came from Spain thanks to his post escaped quarantine, went to work, gave lectures at the academy. So in the Stavropol kr. rather, you should also wait for a flash. Unfortunately, the situation is very serious and the joke time has passed, everyone should at least take care of their own hygiene. Do not be lazy, make yourself gauze dressings, five or six ply.
    I hope no one gets hurt on the site, take care of yourself and loved ones. Sincerely.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 21 March 2020 21: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: akribos
      In the Stavropol kr. there was no chief epidemiologist

      it’s unlikely that she was already fired !!! what
  • Jarserge
    Jarserge 21 March 2020 08: 37 New
    +3
    Lehsus, I agree abidly for Bandershtad, is so European and nationally "correct", but you can't throw out the words from the song - in power. And to spit in Russia, so you gave yourself away with your head, this is the so-called "birthmark" of the miscarriage of the European intelligence services-Ukrainian "nationalism"
  • A009
    A009 21 March 2020 11: 34 New
    +3
    As I understand it, you are very aware of the realities of medicine in Russia? And the fact that we have 100 times more ventilators per 000 people than in Italy (this is the trick in "falling apart") That the same infectious disease specialists and virologists are among the best in the world. (One "Vector" is worth it, remind who is from Ebola made a vaccine?) Regarding the urgent delivery of mechanical ventilation. This is more than a solvable problem.
    1. reservist
      reservist 24 March 2020 10: 42 New
      0
      I'm not very aware ...
      but don’t tell me how many intensive care wards we have per 100 thousand inhabitants?
      1. A009
        A009 24 March 2020 11: 05 New
        +1
        I can’t say about intensive care, but the total tent fund is 100 people. almost identical to Germany. (more than 800) compare with Italy about 250 and especially Spain (if I'm not mistaken about 180) Will such an answer suit you?
        1. reservist
          reservist 24 March 2020 11: 27 New
          0
          yes, thanks for answering
          actually the question arose after reading the "reflections" on the topic of why in Germany and Italy there is such a spread in sick / dead ...
          I read that the Germans per 100 thousand people had 33,9 intensive care units, while the Italians had 8,4
          1. A009
            A009 24 March 2020 11: 33 New
            0
            Perhaps as one of the indicators. Only in this case, with the coronovirus, of all the intensive care equipment, only breathing support equipment is needed, and as far as I understand, dialysis equipment. To a greater extent, in the absence of an approved treatment regimen and drugs, the organizational component becomes the main point. It is precisely what China, Japan, Korea, and Japan (I will not tell you for Germany) that demonstrated it, but that Italy did not demonstrate, and as it turns out, Spain. Apparently in Russia they are responding adequately so far. According to the dangers. I hope so in the future. The epidemic in Russia, apparently, is only at the very beginning. Let's see how they handle it.
            1. reservist
              reservist 24 March 2020 15: 25 New
              0
              As for the organizational component - I don't understand why those who were taken out of China were quarantined, and those who returned from Europe, when there were already infected in "commercial quantities" - just drove home on their own ...
              in Bavaria, a curfew has already been introduced, throughout Germany, with almost 30 thousand cases, so far "only" about 100 deaths ... and for a couple of weeks the Germans who became infected were like we have now ...
              in addition to the availability of places / equipment / doctors, there is probably such a factor as national mentality ... otherwise how else to justify the behavior of such "smart guys" who, after returning from Italy, wander wherever they want ... it seems that in a couple of weeks we will rather have like in Europe, not like in Korea ...
              for example, in Korea, the problem of the shortage of masks was solved by limiting their sale to the population in pharmacies according to the schedule according to the lists of the local "social insurance", similar to how we sold vodka / sugar, etc. in the 90s. according to coupons ... I don’t know what the Koreans have come up with, but their number of people infected, after they "typed" the first 8 thousand, almost does not grow ...
              1. A009
                A009 24 March 2020 15: 29 New
                0
                Well, from China they planted those who were from Wuhan. Then there was such an opportunity (just a small number of people) Now from Europe there is only home quarantine (they’re going to track by phone, I don’t know how much really) Just by the fact that there are thousands of such visitors. You can’t quarantine everyone in an infectious system.
                1. reservist
                  reservist 24 March 2020 16: 03 New
                  0
                  Of course, if you do not stop air traffic, you will not land ...
                  but here it was possible to warn the "returnees" about the need for home quarantine and to acquaint them with Article 111 and Article 115 of Chapter 16 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation against signature ...
  • Nikolai Grek
    Nikolai Grek 21 March 2020 21: 05 New
    +4
    Quote: lexus
    The result of the election of a clown as president of the country.

    This also applies to many other countries, including the neighboring one to the east. In which, however, they were "elected" with a huge stretch, up to 146%. Well done, they washed the bones of the country with a fork. In Russia, it would be useful to know that the cat cried out for infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists, traumatologists, proctologists and gynecologists who have caught the coronavirus are trying to treat, the hospitals designated for quarantine are already overcrowded, and everything needed is imported, incl. artificial lung ventilation devices, critical for saving people. Their partners will not sell, they themselves need what to do? Chuckle about amendments, if they are not okay? Military medicine, as in China, which, by the way, is on the mend, is not mobilized. Why? Because from her only horns and legs remained. How many more must die for enlightenment in the brain to come?

    interestingly, there is such a topic where you and your camarilla are not eXperts ?? !!! wassat laughing
  • IL-64
    IL-64 22 March 2020 08: 17 New
    +1
    Manuals Navalny at hand? Is it possible without them proofs about the overcrowding of hospitals in Russia? Oh yeah, this is hiding, so the sources cannot be named. Obviously, in the training manuals it is not written that in many hospitals the newly introduced buildings are now reserved for infectious needs. The construction of pre-fabricated hospitals near Moscow by the Chinese method has begun. The first one will be ready at the end of March. I barely got to the cottage, since a piece of the usual route was closed. But trucks with building materials in a column go there
  • Gray brother
    Gray brother 20 March 2020 18: 16 New
    +9
    Quote: Gunner
    The result of the election of a clown as president of the country.

    Poroshenko would have resolved everything at once - he would have said that this is Kremlin propaganda and that’s all.
  • Looking for
    Looking for 21 March 2020 17: 07 New
    0
    I see you are a fan of the "bloody" Poroshenko.
  • Nikolai Grek
    Nikolai Grek 21 March 2020 20: 53 New
    +5
    Quote: Gunner
    The result of the election of a clown as president of the country.

    what and then without a clown they live curly !!! wassat laughing
  • cniza
    cniza 20 March 2020 17: 44 New
    10
    Ukraine's experience: how not to deal with a pandemic


    Although such a benefit, or rather, they are doing just that and are doing everything, showing how not to do it ...
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 20 March 2020 17: 48 New
      14
      Quote: cniza
      Ukraine's experience: how not to deal with a pandemic


      Although such a benefit, or rather, they are doing just that and are doing everything, showing how not to do it ...

      The grave of Ukraine continues. "America is with us ..." Abroad to help them
      1. cniza
        cniza 20 March 2020 18: 02 New
        14
        Yeah, such a dream and do not wake up ...
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 20 March 2020 17: 50 New
      10
      The doctor said ... there, then there!
      What can we do on this side? Do not interfere.
      1. Masha
        Masha 20 March 2020 17: 58 New
        10
        the eternal principle ... will pass by itself! wink
        1. cniza
          cniza 20 March 2020 18: 04 New
          11
          Quote: Masha
          the eternal principle ... will pass by itself! wink


          Well, if you don’t wash, the dirt will fall off after 72 days.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 20 March 2020 18: 00 New
        11
        Quote: rocket757
        The doctor said ... there, then there!

        hi
        But the doctor did not say what type of virus in the heads of Svidomo need to fight in the first place.
        1. Masha
          Masha 20 March 2020 18: 14 New
          14
          do not disturb them on the way to the morgue ... they will do everything themselves .... love
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 20 March 2020 18: 42 New
            +5
            Quote: Masha
            do not disturb them on the way to the morgue ... they will do everything themselves .... love

            Maydown brain heals only grave digger in the cemetery
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 20 March 2020 18: 52 New
          +4
          Hi lion soldier
          At Krajina, not everything is so simple and unambiguous. There is nothing to worry about skakuas, nothing can cling to their nogogu-mogul, not that consistency. There were enough strangers left to us who are not expecting anything good in this madhouse. It is sad.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 20 March 2020 21: 20 New
            +5
            Quote: rocket757
            There were enough strangers left to us who are not expecting anything good in this madhouse.


            And who forced them to go to bed under the banderite drinkers, ride on the Maidan, choose between normal life and lace shorts, choose thieves-idiots as leaders, allow adventurers such as Mishka Denisenko (clicker Filaret) to the centuries-old Orthodox church? They got what they wanted, and I don’t feel sorry for them (in 30 years you could think of a normal life).
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 21 March 2020 00: 01 New
              0
              Quote: Lelek
              And who forced them to go under the banderite tea houses,

              Everything, as elsewhere, dermocracy, power is never a nation.
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 21 March 2020 21: 37 New
                +5
                Quote: rocket757
                Everything, as elsewhere, dermocracy, power is never a nation.

                stop amusing yourself with illusions ... it’s the inhabitants of VNA who have chosen all this evil spirits to power !!! negative
            2. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 21 March 2020 09: 27 New
              +5
              They got what they wanted, and I don’t feel sorry for them ..... everything is right, God marks the assault ... but at the expense of the virus .. the hysteria has been inflated so that someone is insidious and agile rich. believe in the word as a liquidator of bird flu. there is a vaccine. but it’s necessary to muddy the water so that we can catch fish on it ... and a lot, moreover, the preparation was thorough before the crown. zombie films spawned like amoeba. so it’s not worth the panic. now everyone will get enough and then the vaccine will arrive
      3. cniza
        cniza 20 March 2020 18: 03 New
        +9
        Quote: rocket757
        The doctor said ... there, then there!
        What can we do on this side? Do not interfere.


        Everything would be fine, but they are at our doorstep ...
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 20 March 2020 18: 23 New
          +5
          Quote: cniza
          Everything would be fine, but they are at our doorstep ...

          hi Victor.
          It means that it is necessary to move the threshold a bit to the west, for which to carry out the recognition of the independence of the LDNR (all the same "Minsk" is dead and will not be carried out by the Ruin) and conclude full-fledged agreements with them with all the ensuing consequences. More than 2/3 of the population there with RF passports.
          1. cniza
            cniza 20 March 2020 18: 35 New
            +6
            A lion! hi
            Maybe right up to Zbruch, so that his head no longer hurts.
            1. Masha
              Masha 20 March 2020 18: 46 New
              +5
              Victor! love
              so that my head no longer hurts

              guillotine!!!!! wink
              1. cniza
                cniza 20 March 2020 18: 51 New
                +5
                Thanks to the French, they knew how not only now ...
                1. Masha
                  Masha 20 March 2020 18: 57 New
                  +6
                  Well, we didn’t lag behind ... it was harder ... right away! wink
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 20 March 2020 19: 12 New
                    +3
                    Quote: cniza
                    Thanks to the French, they knew how not only now ...

                    Quote: Masha
                    Well, we didn’t lag behind ... it was harder ... right away! wink

                    Boys, girls, what you are ... played out before the weekend.
                    In the country of Kukuev, they themselves will manage! Not for nothing that they had a woman with a scythe in Glavmedikah ... she was.
                    However, I hope you are out of philanthropy ... like, Schaub did not suffer! am
                    1. Masha
                      Masha 20 March 2020 19: 17 New
                      +8
                      oh well ... braid? what braid ??? hammer and sickle! laughing shoot, so as not to suffer ... and all things .... we are kind, we are compassionate .... repeat
                  2. LMN
                    LMN 20 March 2020 20: 44 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Masha
                    Well, we didn’t lag behind ... it was harder ... right away! wink

                    Masha ... you are straight
                    1. Masha
                      Masha 20 March 2020 20: 47 New
                      +7
                      Hello, Maxim! love oh well .... what is happening on the ball of our earth .... it's so berries! is that ahead? recourse
                      1. LMN
                        LMN 20 March 2020 20: 55 New
                        +7
                        Hi Masha!))
                        We were discussing here with the "man in the pool" .. it was enough to accidentally drop a missile with an SBS .. and there is no need to put anyone on a stake .. you have to be human winked
                      2. Masha
                        Masha 20 March 2020 21: 02 New
                        +6
                        so we are the most humane people in the human world !!!! and let someone argue! such altruists as we still look for ... yes
                      3. LMN
                        LMN 20 March 2020 21: 08 New
                        +7
                        Yeah. There's no arguing with that. what
                        Thinking here ..
                      4. Masha
                        Masha 20 March 2020 21: 10 New
                        +7
                        Quote: LMN
                        Think about it here.

                        here you don’t even have to strain the brain .... like we don’t do anymore! yes
                        and it’s not for a red word .... yes
                      5. LMN
                        LMN 20 March 2020 21: 12 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Masha
                        Quote: LMN
                        Think about it here.

                        here you don’t even have to strain the brain .... like we don’t do anymore! yes

                        Don't do it anymore! yes
                        For made in the USSR!
                      6. Masha
                        Masha 20 March 2020 21: 14 New
                        +6
                        For made in the USSR!

                        there is also GOST and a quality mark .... laughing
                      7. LMN
                        LMN 20 March 2020 21: 20 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Masha
                        For made in the USSR!

                        there is also GOST and a quality mark .... laughing

                        In meat grinders and skimmers, and part of the weapons repeat
                      8. Masha
                        Masha 20 March 2020 21: 27 New
                        +7
                        I leave you with meat grinders and slotters ... if I’m tired of them ...

                        spocky! noki!
                      9. LMN
                        LMN 20 March 2020 21: 30 New
                        +6
                        Goodnight! smile
                    2. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 20 March 2020 21: 35 New
                      +9
                      My respect to all those born in the USSR! good
                      I can not resist:
                    3. LMN
                      LMN 20 March 2020 21: 37 New
                      +6
                      Pavel, + of course.
                    4. rocket757
                      rocket757 21 March 2020 00: 04 New
                      +2
                      Hi Pavel soldier
                      At least I come from there, but Gazmanov, listen, be-ee.
                    5. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 21 March 2020 13: 44 New
                      +5
                      Victor, hi! soldier
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Gazmanov, listen, be-ee.

                      To each his own, according to his tastes and habits. yes
                    6. rocket757
                      rocket757 21 March 2020 14: 45 New
                      0
                      I listen to rock and roll and rock, I don’t like pop music at all.
                      And they don’t argue about tastes, that’s right.
                    7. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 21 March 2020 14: 52 New
                      +4
                      Vitya, I also respect rock and roll, rockabilly and hard rock. I'm just used to listening to a lot. Therefore, I am familiar with many directions. I keep my "Hard Rock Cafe" T-shirt as a relic! drinks
                    8. rocket757
                      rocket757 21 March 2020 17: 29 New
                      +1
                      Everyone "goes crazy" in their own way. I just listen to what I like.
                      Now you can find anything.
                    9. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 21 March 2020 18: 04 New
                      +5
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Now you can find anything.

                      In-in! The internet has made a lot of things available. This is not what it used to be: they intercepted cassettes to rewrite, and I am silent about bobbins. Vinyl is a separate issue ...
                    10. rocket757
                      rocket757 21 March 2020 19: 11 New
                      +1
                      Everything is complicated with vinyl, of course, it is ... the player does not work, it is difficult to find a suitable pickup.
                      In the new machine, the receiver is not simple, not yet, the tablet replaces EVERYTHING!
  • Lelek
    Lelek 20 March 2020 21: 08 New
    +4
    Quote: cniza
    Maybe right up to Zbruch, so that his head no longer hurts.


    I don’t mind, but I think Kukuev’s inmates will be offended more than hell, but I can’t stand snot and tears. bully
    1. Masha
      Masha 20 March 2020 21: 17 New
      +6
      Leo, howdy there! love
      but I can’t stand snot and tears.

      so ... I advise ... do not react negatively .... wink
      Look the other way .... yes
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 20 March 2020 21: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: Masha
        Look the other way ....

        hi
        Thank. I am already in a different perspective. Speaking of love, or vice versa for vices and diseases, here I fully agree with the unforgettable Faina Ranevskaya:
        1. Masha
          Masha 20 March 2020 21: 36 New
          +8
          unforgettable !!!

          I am already in a different perspective.

          so I say .... change the review! wink
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 20 March 2020 21: 38 New
            +3
            Quote: Masha
            change the review!


            I wrote - ALREADY. yes
            1. Masha
              Masha 20 March 2020 21: 41 New
              +7
              Well ... I’m a lady .... where did I see a lady who understands from the first word? repeat
            2. Svarog51
              Svarog51 21 March 2020 03: 38 New
              +9
              Marinochka Vitalievna love As I promised, in the evening I took care of the prevention of the virus and overdid it a little with the dose. But now I'm here. I observe how the Spring Equinox affects people. And you know, someone is quite positive, but someone is not at all lucky. request
              "For lovely ladies, for lovely ladies, I drink a glass here and there!" good drinks love
            3. Masha
              Masha 21 March 2020 04: 03 New
              +5
              For God's sake, give me the phone!
              Put the bottles in front of us
              Call all riders
              With a twisted mustache!
              To rattle here in chorus
              Hussar Squadron Volatile,
              So that I flew to heaven
              I am in their mighty arms;
              To the walls from cheers
              And trembling and trembling! ..
              It would be better if they screamed in the field ...
              But others throated:
              "And the time will come before us!"
              Serge, brother, what a vast expanse!
              The punch is cruel! .. Chorus rattles!
              Serge drink your health:
              Be a hussar, a century drunk and full!
              Pont how you pont
              Flank as you flank
              Cheer up in peace days
              And in battles download-play!
              Life flies: don't be ashamed
              Do not spill her flight.
              Drink, love and have fun! -
              Here is my friendly advice! love
              Slightly corrected ....
              I’ll never give a fuck ....
            4. Svarog51
              Svarog51 21 March 2020 04: 21 New
              +8
              "A little light, and you're already on your feet! And I'm at your feet!" (from) love
            5. Masha
              Masha 21 March 2020 04: 27 New
              +5
              So the dog ... nobody canceled the run! wink
              Thanks for song!!! love
            6. Svarog51
              Svarog51 21 March 2020 04: 31 New
              +8
              Hi Timoha! It is to your return, with an easy in minor, but sincerely. love
  • Baloo
    Baloo 20 March 2020 18: 47 New
    12
    Quote: cniza
    Quote: rocket757
    The doctor said ... there, then there!
    What can we do on this side? Do not interfere.


    Everything would be fine, but they are at our doorstep ...

    That's it. The Russian coronavirus is different from the Chinese and this inspires hope. Active development is carried out in several centers in the Russian Federation. Good luck to scientists. Something is already being tested on animals. Again Russia save the world. Americans, symptomatically, have already stated that they have a remedy for coronavirus. Actually there are a lot of them. The danger of the Chinese lies in its ability to actively mutate and 4-inserts, one of which is from HIV the other from previous epidemics of bird flu and SARS. I do not believe that the virus sprang up on its own at the Wuhan fish market or broke out of laboratories near this market.
    1. cniza
      cniza 20 March 2020 18: 56 New
      10
      Maybe we will find out the truth sometime, but certainly not soon ...
      1. Masha
        Masha 20 March 2020 19: 42 New
        +6
        Why and why, it’s quite understandable,
        Boiling with passion, people argue evil:
        There is a truth, it’s nice to express it,
        Listening, however, is difficult ...

        Lining up in a burning argument
        A weighty argument is a friendly series.
        At the same time, the facts are seasoned with nonsense -
        From three boxes he will be told.

        Fighters for truth in any scenario
        They don’t put anyone’s opinion in a penny
        What if two different truths
        Faced among themselves, give birth to a lie! .....
        round off ... I will not bother you anymore .... love
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 20 March 2020 21: 44 New
      +7
      Big Bear - hello! soldier drinks
      Quote: Balu
      I do not believe that the virus sprang up on its own at the Wuhan fish market or broke out of laboratories near this market.

      Not a supporter of "conspiracy theories", but I agree with you 200%. yes
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 20 March 2020 21: 51 New
        +7
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Not a supporter of "conspiracy theories", but I agree with you 200%

        Pasha, hello! We are all calm. Whoever is found is being treated. Rosguard guards the hospital. They began to develop their medicine. While they say that this is not a Chinese, but loves to mutate. What is truly dangerous is the realization by the Saudis of the Brzezinski plan. Oil is cheaper than 30, but they also want to lower it ... This is serious.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 20 March 2020 21: 54 New
          +6
          Quote: Balu
          What is truly dangerous is the realization by the Saudis of the Brzezinski plan.

          That's for sure . Moreover, just now Trump promised "to solve the problem of oil prices." One should definitely not expect anything good from this merchant ... negative
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 20 March 2020 21: 58 New
            +6
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Quote: Balu
            What is truly dangerous is the realization by the Saudis of the Brzezinski plan.

            That's for sure . Moreover, just now Trump promised "to solve the problem of oil prices." One should definitely not expect anything good from this merchant ... negative

            It's like in poker, who will blink first. What to expect from banderlogs is understandable. No matter how the amercious labs still threw something because of this fence. I am very worried about the geyropu. Well, straight to tears. As if their Negroes with barmaley not shut up. crying
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 20 March 2020 22: 05 New
              +5
              Quote: Balu
              I am very worried about the geyropu. Well, straight to tears. As if their Negroes with barmaley not shut up.

              I - went to the neighbor to hammer a machine gun belt ... Well, I won’t forget myself ...
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 20 March 2020 22: 07 New
                +7
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                I - went to the neighbor to hammer a machine gun belt ... Well, I won’t forget myself ...

                "Izya, let's go fishing with us. I don't know how. Why be there, filling drinks th yes drink. And take a fishing rod? Don't, you'll lose it. "Have a nice weekend.
        2. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 21 March 2020 09: 47 New
          +2
          but loves to mutate. .... here. the main often wash mutator and most importantly vitamin C-salt. meat, an egg with a sane dose of C2H5 (OH) and everything will be normal ..... but with the Saudis ..... you just need to get partisan versions of pinocchio and sunflowers in addition to bassoons and cornets, self-propelled versions will not pull, but partisan itself will be
  • rocket757
    rocket757 20 March 2020 19: 07 New
    +3
    Quote: cniza
    Everything would be fine, but they are at our doorstep ...

    This was a serious problem, be they smarter ... and they themselves, themselves ....
  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 20 March 2020 17: 49 New
    -28
    Lord, how already tired, this is just tin! Yes, we ourselves have 50 patients a day added, yesterday I could not buy bread and sugar, the counters in Moscow are empty, there is no pasta, no toilet paper, no meat, no cereal, the same nonsense in the provinces, but we edit the statistics: a person has died from coronavirus, and we are in all seriousness "is not considered", his blood clot flew off, and this is not a coronavirus! And the fact that he flew off because of a serious condition does not bother anyone, the main thing is that the statistics in" zero "would be the envy of the adversary.
    What will happen when we do not have 50 patients, but 500 per day will be detected?
    So we’ll be ecstatic to poke a finger at Ukraine, and the fact that the penny oil is worth it, that the dollar has skyrocketed doesn’t matter either, the main thing is that in Kharkov the metro was not blocked by evil Zelensky.
    Yes, we ourselves have a transport collapse without any overlap for 10 years already, it is impossible to pass on the MKAD. What's next?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 20 March 2020 17: 52 New
      26
      Quote: Bshkaus
      I could not buy bread and sugar yesterday, the shelves in Moscow are empty, there is no pasta, there is no toilet paper, there is no meat, there is no cereal,

      So maybe her, this Nerezinova?
      We, in Zamkadye, have everything ...
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 20 March 2020 18: 07 New
        -16
        So maybe her, this Nerezinova?
        We, in Zamkadye, have everything ...

        Thank you for the offer, but this week I put up one of my apartments for sale, unfortunately, my future and, above all, the future of my children in "zakardonya" :(
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 20 March 2020 18: 10 New
          16
          Quote: Bshkaus
          unfortunately, my future and, above all, the future of my children is in "zakardonya" :(

          Well, there are even more huge problems with toilet paper. Even worse than in Nerezinova.
          How will you live there ????

          Quote: Bshkaus
          but this week I put up for sale one of my apartment

          Y-yes ...
          Originally.
          Have you tried to think with your head?
          1. Bshkaus
            Bshkaus 20 March 2020 18: 16 New
            -14
            Have you tried to think with your head?

            I tried of course, the pandemic of course now confuses all plans, but there are no special options either, you need to finish construction and move.
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 20 March 2020 20: 50 New
              +5
              Quote: Bshkaus
              you need to finish construction and move.

              You probably wanted to say finish school. Judging by the rhetoric and syllable, the age is the same.
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 20 March 2020 18: 34 New
          15
          Quote: Bshkaus
          Thanks for the offer, but I am this week put up for sale one of his apartment, unfortunately, my future and, above all, the future of my children is in "zakardonya" :(
          Excuse me, how many apartments do you still have? No, I laugh stupidly ...
          1. Bshkaus
            Bshkaus 20 March 2020 18: 46 New
            -11
            grow, and how many apartments are still left with you? No, I laugh stupidly ...

            And just laugh, or still envy?
            There is no secret in this: in the Russian Federation there are three pieces, in Moscow, St. Petersburg and Kaluga. I sell the one in St. Petersburg (odnushku next to the metro), you can purchase, I sell 200-300 thousand cheaper than the market offer.)))
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 20 March 2020 18: 49 New
              +9
              I never envied anyone. Perhaps that’s why it’s alive. And about your sarcasm, the Lord God will judge you.
            2. Oyo Sarkazmi
              Oyo Sarkazmi 20 March 2020 20: 15 New
              +8
              Quote: Bshkaus
              There is no secret in this: in the Russian Federation there are three pieces, in Moscow, St. Petersburg and Kaluga.

              Well, in the near future, shoot for 1000 a month. Moreover, transferring pieces of paper for a lot of money will not work - there are enough of their Irish.
        3. Gray brother
          Gray brother 20 March 2020 18: 45 New
          12
          Quote: Bshkaus
          my future and above all the future of my children in "zakardonya"

          Do not linger here. Why expose yourself to meaningless suffering?
      2. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy 20 March 2020 18: 16 New
        14
        Come to Krasnodar. There are full counters. You are there in the capital, all the alarmists hike.
        1. dauria
          dauria 20 March 2020 19: 48 New
          12
          Come to Krasnodar. There are full counters. You are there in the capital, all the alarmists hike.


          Nizhny Novgorod today is full of everything, "Pyaterochka" is half empty, there are even fewer people than usual. Come, Muscovites, our old women simply do not have money to panic. And you’re there with the money — at least you’ll fix your trade. laughing
          Once you went to you for your sausage, now they are ready to pay off debts. wassat
      3. Gray brother
        Gray brother 20 March 2020 18: 19 New
        +6
        Quote: Spade
        So maybe her, this Nerezinova?

        In Nerezinova, too, everything is there, already until noon, pensioners begin to end their pension - they just paid recently.
        Filed on pasta and flour all deshmanskih boutiques)))
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 20 March 2020 18: 22 New
          11
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Filed on pasta and flour all deshmanskih boutiques)))

          Someone was good at panicking.
          We have better with this.
          Although cereals of a low price category were dismantled directly "from the wheels." However, the panic level "buy despite the price" did not reach. laughing
          Well, now everything seems to have settled down ...
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 20 March 2020 18: 30 New
            10
            Quote: Spade
            Well, now everything seems to have settled down ...

            Pension is not infinite.
            I go to "Bill", there was no such garbage, and we also have one small network where it is five rubles more expensive - everything is fine there too.
            And in the top five they swept everything - pasta, flour, cereals, spread it in the morning and grandmothers there as ants crawl out, but now it’s less, even something remains on the shelves.
            In clinics, by the way, for those who receive free medicines, they immediately give out a reserve for three months so that they do not go there again. This is in Moscow, if that.
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 20 March 2020 18: 38 New
            +5
            Quote: Spade
            Someone was good at panicking.

            In Moldova, not frail fines were determined for deliberate price increases. So that speculators are not particularly borzoi.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 20 March 2020 18: 43 New
              +6
              Quote: NEXUS
              In Moldova, not frail fines were determined for deliberate price increases.

              And without raising prices and speculation profitable. Purely due to turnover
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 20 March 2020 18: 49 New
                +7
                Quote: Spade
                And without raising prices and speculation profitable. Purely due to turnover

                Yes, there is no merit, it's a chain reaction and herd instinct)))
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 20 March 2020 18: 59 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  Yes, there is no merit

                  I agree.
                  Received additional income without any labor laughing
            2. Harry.km
              Harry.km 20 March 2020 22: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              In Moldova, not frail fines were determined for deliberate price increases. So that speculators do not particularly greyhound

              As a result, this penalty will also enter the price ... As long as there is rush demand with a fine, you will not scare anyone!
    2. Victor N
      Victor N 20 March 2020 17: 58 New
      +4
      I believe that the excited alarmists should be cut with rods. Publicly.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 21 March 2020 09: 56 New
        +1
        I believe that alarmists who are excited should be flogged with rods. Publicly ....... according to the classics - "on a rack, in a dungeon, on a stake ... how is it, Ivan cried"
    3. Muvka
      Muvka 20 March 2020 18: 02 New
      13
      Quote: Bshkaus
      Lord, how already tired, this is just tin! Yes, we ourselves have 50 patients a day added, yesterday I could not buy bread and sugar, the counters in Moscow are empty, there is no pasta, no toilet paper, no meat, no cereal, the same nonsense in the provinces, but we edit the statistics: a person has died from coronavirus, and we are in all seriousness "is not considered", his blood clot flew off, and this is not a coronavirus! And the fact that he flew off because of a serious condition does not bother anyone, the main thing is that the statistics in" zero "would be the envy of the adversary.
      What will happen when we do not have 50 patients, but 500 per day will be detected?
      So we’ll be ecstatic to poke a finger at Ukraine, and the fact that the penny oil is worth it, that the dollar has skyrocketed doesn’t matter either, the main thing is that in Kharkov the metro was not blocked by evil Zelensky.
      Yes, we ourselves have a transport collapse without any overlap for 10 years already, it is impossible to pass on the MKAD. What's next?

      But nothing that all 50 were infected not in our country, but in Europe? These are all newcomers. And they are quarantined on time. In general, we are in 5th place among all countries in the number of tests carried out for coronavirus. Despite the fact that we have only 200 people infected.
      1. reservist
        reservist 20 March 2020 20: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        But nothing that all 50 were infected not in our country, but in Europe? These are all newcomers. And they are quarantined on time.

        I know two "Italians" who were not sent ...
        one is already being treated ...

        In general, we are in 5th place among all countries in the number of tests carried out for coronavirus.

        Tell me, where can I see the data on the number of tested?

        Despite the fact that we have only 200 people infected.

        three weeks ago in Germany there were "only" 47 infected ...
    4. major071
      major071 20 March 2020 18: 06 New
      14
      Yesterday I went into the shops to look at something "which is nowhere to be found", in all the stores there is buckwheat, sugar and toilet paper, no excitement. And this is 100 km from the Moscow Ring Road. True, sugar has risen in price by 5 kg. Fakes about empty shelves have just been lifted up. fool
      1. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 20 March 2020 18: 16 New
        +4
        Moscow region. 60 km from Moscow. Today I went to the "Crossroads" and "Yes!" There is everything, though people take a little more than usual. By lunchtime, there was one empty shelf at Perekrestok — sugar. But I personally saw how the mesh container was heated and two store employees very quickly filled the void. I did not notice the rise in prices for goods with "pre-virus times".
        In the shop "Yes!" for the second day in a row, chicken and chicken sets (offal, wings, thighs) are being sold very cheerfully. But there is no shortage.
    5. Lelek
      Lelek 20 March 2020 18: 06 New
      +9
      Quote: Bshkaus
      What's next?


      "... if he is frail, go straight to the coffin ...". Well, if it's a vsepalschik, then to Navalny's shit into the team.
    6. evgic
      evgic 20 March 2020 18: 36 New
      11
      Do not carry garbage. All to fig everywhere. Brehlo
      1. The comment was deleted.
    7. the finish
      the finish 20 March 2020 18: 41 New
      +1
      Martians flew to Earth and saw that all people died, but paid attention to what they had clean asses ...
    8. Thrifty
      Thrifty 20 March 2020 18: 47 New
      +6
      Bashkus - grab a sheet, and crawl to the cemetery! What else do you advise - drink tea, feel better! !!
    9. Baloo
      Baloo 20 March 2020 18: 49 New
      +8
      Quote: Bshkaus
      What's next?

      Go to \ to Ukraine, the globe is in your hands.
    10. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 20 March 2020 19: 18 New
      +7
      Quote: Bshkaus
      Yes, we ourselves add 50 patients a day, I couldn’t buy bread and sugar yesterday, the shelves in Moscow are empty, there is no pasta, there is no toilet paper, there is no meat, there is no groats, the same nonsense in the province, and we

      I'm just from the store. Everything is in place. You can buy everything. Where do you not have what? In Moscow? I am also in Moscow.
      Now he has sent a photo of counters to his sister in Germany. Pyramids of stews, buckwheat, pasta ... paper of this oh ... She weeps there. There is simply NOTHING there ...
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 20 March 2020 19: 31 New
        -14
        I'm just from the store. Everything is in place. You can buy everything. Where do you not have what? In Moscow?

        I speak for last night at 20:00. Moscow, Skobelevskaya street, d1, shop Pyaterochka there was no bread, cereals, pasta, sugar at all, only signs "on the way". St. Skobelevskaya, 8 Magnet, there was bread, there was completely no meat, pasta, cereals, toilet paper, sugar. St. Skobelevskaya in the same place d8 Dixie, I managed to buy sugar, there was no cereal.
        And one more touch: having visited three stores, I saw only one girl in a mask besides myself, which is also significant.
      2. reservist
        reservist 20 March 2020 19: 51 New
        +3
        colleagues say that in some areas in small stores the goods were taken apart ...
        judging by the fact that the subway has become significantly freer, who can already work from home, so they probably bought for the future ...
    11. Baloo
      Baloo 20 March 2020 22: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: Bshkaus
      Lord, how tired it is, it's just tin! Yes, we ourselves add 50 patients a day, yesterday I could not buy bread and sugar, the shelves in Moscow are empty, there is no pasta, there is no toilet paper, there is no meat, there is no cereal,

      Sho do?
  • Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 20 March 2020 17: 51 New
    0
    Did they seriously close the subway, or is it a leaven fake? This is nonsense even for them.
    1. lucul
      lucul 20 March 2020 18: 02 New
      11
      Did they seriously close the subway, or is it a leaven fake? This is nonsense even for them.

      No kidding, closed)))
      But the metro will not get infected ...))))


    2. venik
      venik 20 March 2020 18: 06 New
      +8
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      Did they seriously close the subway, or is it a leaven fake? This is nonsense even for them.

      =======
      Absolutely! From Wednesday yet (yesterday I wrote off with a sidekick from Kiev - swearing - in the most black words ...).
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 20 March 2020 18: 18 New
        +6
        London is also partially closing the metro today. Kiev has reason to be proud.
    3. Tamparu
      Tamparu 20 March 2020 19: 55 New
      +6
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      Did they seriously close the subway, or is it a leaven fake? This is nonsense even for them.

      Yes, in Kharkov the metro is closed. The movement of commuter routes of public facilities is limited. In the city, public transport runs, but people are hammered by the most "I can not". Non-food markets are closed, entertainment centers are closed, but there are no fewer people on the street. There are a lot of children on sports and entertainment grounds. There are just a lot of people idly strolling along the street. There are no masks in pharmacies, no antiseptics. At the same time, there is no need to say something about panic. There are food, groceries, sugar. If there is something missing in any store, then this is a problem in the ability to form inventory balances of the chains themselves, since "what, no" panic was present, especially among the population with a low level of income ... In short, as we Slavs say, until the "rooster" bites in one place, then a pandemic will not begin in Kharkov ...
  • Sergey39
    Sergey39 20 March 2020 17: 53 New
    +1
    Yes, all these are trifles. Ukraine will face default in the next two weeks.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 20 March 2020 17: 56 New
    +9
    "According to doctors and nurses, they have practically no protective equipment - even basic masks and respirators, not to mention specialized" anti-plague suits "." That before they were decommunized, they destroyed Soviet textbooks on CWP and civil defense.
    The jumped grave will only correct.
    1. venik
      venik 20 March 2020 18: 20 New
      +4
      Quote: Strashila
      The jumped grave will only correct.

      =======
      There is another way that is very non-trivial, but OCH_CH_CH-YEN effective:
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 20 March 2020 21: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      The jumped grave will only correct.

      Do you think in Russia many people know and do respirators for this textbook? And in pharmacies and special stores in our city, there are no protective equipment (except gas masks). request
  • Palmyra
    Palmyra 20 March 2020 18: 01 New
    +5
    Yes, everything is simply explainable, the state is not able to treat the sick, there is no money. Therefore, there is only one way out, to close the population home. If they are not able to treat tuberculosis patients with an open form, they are going to let everyone go home, what other virus is shmirus ?!
  • sagitch
    sagitch 20 March 2020 18: 24 New
    +4
    A unique opportunity to learn from the mistakes of others.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 20 March 2020 18: 45 New
    0
    ABOUT! if there was an article about Ukraine, the pandemic reached its peak and will soon decline. A popular sign ... laughing
  • Mestny
    Mestny 20 March 2020 18: 57 New
    +7
    Read the comments.
    "I recognize raguli by graceful words."
    They don’t have enough chicken brains to hold back a bit.
    The theme of Ukraine-and let’s how the dogs rushed to rant about Russia.
    1. voodoo123
      voodoo123 20 March 2020 19: 05 New
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      Now carefully read the post below.
  • voodoo123
    voodoo123 20 March 2020 19: 04 New
    -8
    I don’t want to aggravate the situation, but in a week or two on the expanses of the ex-USSR the situation in Italy will all seem like flowers to us, with our medicine and the level of life. The dead do not care what nationality he is. We are just lucky that we are remote from civilization.
  • Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible 20 March 2020 19: 04 New
    +7
    Quote: lexus
    In Russia, it would be useful to know that the cat cried out for infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists, traumatologists, proctologists and gynecologists were trying to treat the coronavirus, the hospitals allocated for quarantine are already full

    This is in what region of Russia? Provide information, please.
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 20 March 2020 21: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Incomprehensible
      This is in what region of Russia? Provide information, please.

      Yes, so he admitted. They do not have a "region", they are rooting for their "homeland". And all at once, and exclusively on the Internet.
  • Asad
    Asad 20 March 2020 19: 13 New
    -1
    In which region are masks and antiseptics available? In Novosibirsk, for a month everything was gone!
  • Fishery
    Fishery 20 March 2020 19: 15 New
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    I had to kiss the power))) and they closed the funny metro))))
  • reservist
    reservist 20 March 2020 19: 22 New
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    can zaminusat to death, but in Moscow with ordinary masks is also tense ...
    in the masks in the masks I see very few people ...
    Of course, close the subway without driving people home - idiocy ...
    but limiting air communication with Italy and not limiting it with the rest of Europe, ignoring the fact that there are rail and other transport in Europe, is also, to put it mildly, not a wise decision ...
    to quarantine those exported from China, and not to isolate and not control the movement of "Italians" who returned home - is this not idiocy?
    officials and other bosses in all countries sometimes differ in a very peculiar logic of decision-making ...
  • alien
    alien 20 March 2020 19: 24 New
    +4
    Ukraine's experience: how not to deal with a pandemic


    [“Somehow a pilgrim and a plague met on the road.
    “Where are you going?” Asked the plague.
    - To Mecca, bow to the holy places. And you?
    “To Baghdad, pick up five thousand people,” said the plague.
    They parted; and a year later they met again on the same road.
    “But you deceived me,” the pilgrim said to the plague. “You said that you would take five thousand people to Baghdad, and you took fifty-five thousand!”
    “No,” said the plague, “I told the truth.” I was in Baghdad and took my five thousand. The rest died of fear. ”
    In this case, panic strikes the economy — it crushes the notorious “small and medium-sized businesses” and throws out a huge number of people who are nowhere to go (especially with an eye to the disappearance of visa-free travel as a phenomenon). Here people will die not of fear, but of hunger.]

    [Remember 2009? Yulia Vladimirovna Tymoshenko sews bandages from expired gauze and meets airplanes with expired Tamiflu, men in gas masks hang around in the subway (then he, the metro, did not guess to close it), general panic ...

    And then, WHO regretfully admits that the terrible H1N1 virus is “significantly less deadly” than the already circulating influenza viruses. For the year, he killed 14 thousand people around the world, and the "ordinary" flu, without declaring a pandemic, killed about 500 thousand per year.]
    https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20200319/1027080469.html

    And then minus 250 000 in a year...
  • Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible 20 March 2020 19: 56 New
    +6
    Quote: Incomprehensible
    Quote: lexus
    In Russia, it would be useful to know that the cat cried out for infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists, traumatologists, proctologists and gynecologists were trying to treat the coronavirus, the hospitals allocated for quarantine are already full

    This is in what region of Russia? Provide information, please.


    He will not provide the requested information, the main thing is to hype him (and others like him), throw a hamnets on the fan ... in order to try to get to power ... only you yourself bathe in it, imported ...
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 20 March 2020 20: 34 New
    +1
    In Ukraine, they are not afraid of the "coronavirus" - because they tell "good statistics" on TV. I watched Sharia - Sharia's party organizes transport (gazelles) to deliver doctors to hospitals and back, in how many cities I don't know. Along the way, Shariy is the only one in Ukraine who does at least something, the rest earn $ (for example, conducting tests for "coronavirus" for 1 or 000 hryvnias).
    1. RoTTor
      RoTTor 20 March 2020 20: 45 New
      -2
      Shary - the provocateur of the SBU,
      naive, many years buzzing abroad, on a business trip from the SBU, as a bait, or a ponderous duck, they catch naive suckers
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 21 March 2020 21: 57 New
        +4
        Quote: RoTTor
        buzzing abroad

        he dumped it as if from persecution ... moreover, it began with a yanyk !!! wassat
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 20 March 2020 20: 42 New
    0
    https://www.facebook.com/Transpress_viczel-178637738821455

    COUNTRY OF FOOLS WITHOUT MIRACLES FIELD

    UKRAINE THROWS ITS PEOPLE.
    ALWAYS AND EVERYTHING
  • Baloo
    Baloo 20 March 2020 20: 54 New
    +5
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: lexus
    Denying the obvious is either a stage of debility or a bipolar
    Well, why panic? What are you doing this for? Specifically, in which region are infectious hospitals crowded?

    He is a stranger, lost his way
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 20 March 2020 21: 17 New
    0
    How can Ukraine protect itself from a pandemic?

    IN RUSSIAN CRIMEA
    NO ONE case of coronavirus
    but full of vacationers

    Okay?
  • 3vs
    3vs 20 March 2020 21: 27 New
    +2
    There will be a coronavirus.

    One prophet in Ukraine when he warned:
    “And today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Rather, not only everyone can watch, few can do it ... "
  • Moon
    Moon 20 March 2020 21: 38 New
    -3
    In general, there is nothing new here.
    The measures taken in Ukraine exactly copy the measures in Europe.
    External restrictions (the border of the country / border of the metropolis / district and, last but not least, the house)
    Internal restrictions (transport, networks, catering, work, training, etc.)
    The mess with all these measures is the same as in Italy and in Ukraine. People are knocked off the usual schedule by all restrictions.
    So the article is not about anything.
    I am sure that poking a finger in Ukraine they say they are generally none and we are cool, will not lead to good.
    There are fewer cases in Ukraine, and the territory is smaller. With quarantine, it will be easier. There are not many million people.
    It has simply become fashionable for years, first of all, to poke into Ukraine, and to blur the eyes with a similar situation in the country.
    Just informational cliches (The Cursed West will bend, the dollar will collapse, Ukraine will freeze, everyone will die and we will go to heaven ..)
    In general, the main problem in Ukraine is that society is not ready to change its usual life schedule so abruptly. For a couple of days restrictions in transport, and here is the result.
    1. Fishery
      Fishery 21 March 2020 00: 04 New
      -3
      the funniest thing is that in the Russian Federation there are now more cases than in Ukraine)
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 20 March 2020 21: 40 New
    +3
    According to doctors and nurses, they have virtually no protective equipment — even elementary masks and respirators, not to mention specialized “plague suits”.

    To be fair, in our city (RF) there are no masks or respirators either in pharmacies or in stores like "specialists" (ie, where they sell special clothing and protection, respectively). So, appeals to the people to wear masks and respirators, come across a banal lack of them on sale. request First you need to solve this issue, then advise citizens to put on these personal protective equipment. repeat
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 20 March 2020 22: 21 New
    +2
    Everything is just that. Today, relatives called, they all said the same thing.
  • rus-5819
    rus-5819 20 March 2020 23: 43 New
    +1
    Guys, Brothers, Comrades, Brothers!
    Forum turns into "Malakhov +" !!!
    BUT "the primitive walks the planet" (Sorry for the plagiarism)
    And you need to do something about it.
  • Fishery
    Fishery 21 March 2020 00: 10 New
    -1
    against the background of the article it is "funny" at least, probably also thought it was just the flu)
    The main infectious disease specialist of Stavropol, having returned from Spain, did not quarantine and is now on mechanical ventilation
    Sannikova on March 8 went on an unofficial visit to Spain. After returning, the chief infectious disease specialist in the region managed to visit several medical institutions. This is the regional Ministry of Health, the city polyclinic N2 and the Stavropol Medical Academy.

    More details: https://www.newsru.com/russia/20mar2020/superdoctor.html
  • Igor Tarakanov
    Igor Tarakanov 21 March 2020 00: 14 New
    0
    This is not easier for us. It’s not a problem to rush to Russia; you won’t cross the entire border. Then we laugh.
  • Andrei Gurov
    Andrei Gurov 21 March 2020 05: 14 New
    +1
    I think for the Ukrainian authorities this virus is simply manna from heaven, and they (the authorities) are interested in having as many sick people as possible in the country. Well, then, with tears and snot, turn to your new brothers and patrons, you see what our situation is with the epidemic, and yet we also have a war. Good people help anyone than they can, and may the IMF forgive us a wretched debt.
  • Awaz
    Awaz 21 March 2020 06: 19 New
    0
    The tantrum will go on for a long time.
    The rulers that in Ukraine and in Russia are apparently made from one test and do not understand the situation at all.
    Already have the experience of China and Italy. By the way, in the same Italy, the majority were infected in hospitals and not in large megacities, but it all started from small villages. Well, this is because of the mentality of these same Italians.
    But I'm talking about something else. In Russia, in my opinion, the authorities are panicking. No matter what Putin says, no one will believe him.
    As I see here, what should have been done initially and what should be done now, when it’s too late to try to shut yourself off from the virus. It has long penetrated us and is distributed approximately like in Italy or any country in Europe.
    So, we must begin to conduct one hundred percent testing of the population for the virus. And if the authorities think from retirees, then deal with them in the first place.
    You need to start with the most suspicious places. We found a family in a village traveling in the same compartment with a sick virus. Well, I isolated the family two weeks after contact. But they also contacted others, and not the fact that they get sick, but suddenly. It is necessary as in Italy to already quarantine the village and check everyone.
    It is clear that this will welcome a huge number of positive samples, but in a different way. Until a person passes the test and is not sure that he is healthy or sick, he will be a potential alarmist.
    1. reservist
      reservist 24 March 2020 10: 48 New
      0
      Quote: AwaZ
      ... we must begin to conduct one hundred percent testing of the population for the virus.

      not really ... where to get so many laboratories ...
      it remains only to put all the slightest suspicious in home quarantine ...
      1. Awaz
        Awaz 24 March 2020 18: 43 New
        0
        and right now it's too late to rock the boat. It was necessary initially, at the same time as the Italians, to deal with the identification of carriers as much as possible. It was not at all clever to check the thermometers that arrived by temperature. and then across the country to look for fellow travelers flying with the sick in a week, two. And even now, a mess is still going on. In our neighboring village, a family was found traveling in the same carriage as infected. Well, yes, they were evacuated, but they lived for more than a week and even went to work. Well, one could check the village, there are not many people there ..
        Now, at least pensioners checked ...
        1. reservist
          reservist 24 March 2020 19: 39 New
          0
          agree madhouse ...
          if there were no test systems, then it was necessary to stop air traffic, as was done with China, or at least fix all potential virus carriers ...
    2. rus-5819
      rus-5819 April 19 2020 19: 01 New
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      Achtung! All residents of trash enter registration.. So what?
      Walk more, saturate the body with oxygen (in the countryside), eat natural (unlike the city) products and do not succumb to mass psychosis.
  • silverura
    silverura 21 March 2020 11: 02 New
    +2
    How many virologists come from? request It seems that "all of them" were good geopolitics. Chicken shields in the fall. Do not get sick)
  • Boozer
    Boozer 21 March 2020 12: 36 New
    -3
    In short, as always .... In Russia, everything is fine, but in Ukraine, everything is bad. Or is it worse than ours ??? ....
    1. reservist
      reservist 24 March 2020 10: 50 New
      0
      probably in all but North Korea and Israel it will be bad, just at different times and to different degrees ...
  • Suhow
    Suhow 22 March 2020 13: 44 New
    0
    In addition to the above, there is another question, most of them have already been sent home, what should they live on when to end,, stash, each has a different size.
    1. reservist
      reservist 24 March 2020 10: 52 New
      0
      those who run out will begin to "shake" those who have more "stash" ...