In Russia, the production of modules of the Yenisei superheavy rocket has begun

Roscosmos State Corporation launched the production of the first modules of the promising Russian superheavy Yenisei rocket. This was announced on Twitter by the head of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin.

According to published data, the assembly of the first modules is carried out by specialists of the Samara Rocket and Space Center "Progress". Rogozin also опубликовал some photos from the assembly shop, explaining that these are “parts of the design of the universal missile modules of the new Yenisei superheavy class rocket”. The missile is created on the basis of Soyuz-5 blocks.

Good news from the Samara Rocket and Space Center "Progress": these are already manufactured shells of tanks and other structural details of the new Soyuz-5 rocket

- said the head of Roskosmos.

As Rogozin previously said, the new rocket will be assembled according to the principle of a designer from ready-made elements that are independent products. The start of flight design tests of the Russian superheavy rocket is scheduled for 2028, and a launch pad will be built for the rocket at the Vostochny spaceport.

The declared missile carrying capacity is 88 tons, it will be able to provide the launch of a manned transport ship weighing 20 tons into the polar near-moon orbit. It is supposed to use the Yenisei for flights to the moon, including for the delivery of astronauts to the earth's satellite.

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[Yrec]

The lunar program was only for forces in the USA and the USSR, as if navels were not torn.

[alavrin]

Do not worry, if Rogozin promises it, then ...))

[Alex Nevs]

caught scrim. But where humor is possible, there is truth.

[Rakovor]

So here it seems like with Europe in cooperation.

[AlexVas44]

Quote: Rakovor

So here it seems like with Europe in cooperation.

"Yenisei" with Europe only Е common.

[Machito]

Another fantastic story from the journalist Rogozin. We only hear his promises. Where is the result? Another launch pad on Vostochny. They stole a little? When will you get drunk already?

[antivirus]

space system - Sayan or Alps better fly than Yenisei or Mississippi?

and immediately to Mars and Neptune weak?

[siberalt]

Gene. the prosecutor has just established the massive use of counterfeits in rocketry, and we are already going to the moon. Or will we first remove the counterfeits from the assembly so that the "moonwalker" does not get stuck on the road?

[Snail N9]

And at this time:

SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket launches another 60 Starlink satellites
This is the sixth batch of satellites of the global Internet access system.
SpaceX company launched the Falcon 9 launch vehicle, the launch of which on March 15 was automatically delayed a few seconds before the launch due to the fact that during the engine check the control data went beyond the standard limits.
15 minutes after launch, the rocket launched into orbit about 290 km in height 60 satellites of the Starlink global Internet access system, each of which weighs about 260 kg. After checking the operability, the satellites will independently rise to the working orbit of 550 km within several months using ion engines.
Note that the first stage used in this mission has flown four times: twice - in 2018 and two times - in 2019. But this time it was not possible to put her on an unmanned ship. In November last year, with its help, the second batch of Starlink satellites was launched into orbit. The current party is the sixth. Three of the six launches were completed this year: the fourth in late January, the fifth in February. In total, SpaceX plans to launch 1500 Starlink satellites in orbit over the course of the year.

https://www.ixbt.com/news/2020/03/19/spacex-falcon-9-60-starlink.html

[Lexus]

Why did they pour salt on torn throats with leaven? For the racers there is still no Crimean bridge, but for the "near-zero" Musk is a fiction. And it doesn't matter that he has a dozen working projects - he is really far from Rogozin and Co. with their pictures and models, as well as the "mastered" budgets. It's no joke, a small one climbed into a mortgage)))), it means a rogue, but here they are "not respected".

[slipped]

Quote: Snail N9

And at this time:

Meanwhile, a Soyuz-2.1b rocket with a cluster of "space Internet" satellites of the Vanweb company was installed at Baikonur and is being prepared for launch. All work is on schedule, starting on the 21st:

This will be the third launch of the media in this program.

[U-58]

Not in rocket science, but in the defense industry.
In the rocket industry, counterfeit has a chance to leak into the work with a probability close to zero.
If you find out what LVK and VP are.
Although, most likely, you do not know. From that and write ...

[Bar1]

the super-heavy Russian rocket -88 tons turned out to be lighter than the heavy Soviet rocket Energy-100 tons. In this state, everything is smaller.

[Invoce]

Roscosmos State Corporation launched the production of the first modules of the promising Russian superheavy Yenisei rocket. This was announced on Twitter by the head of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin.

I would like to be sure that this work and this project will not be monitored as usual in Roscosmos.
They will create a new medium, and not cut the budget.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Invoce

They will create a new medium, and not cut the budget.

Prosecutors must sit there 24x31!
It is safe!
In spherical chambers! (In vacuum)
To not communicate with each other.
And so that they do not communicate in private with any "manager". Generally! Only for round-the-clock recording of 10 video cameras and in the presence of at least 10 people.
So that I didn’t have the right to go to the toilet without a video camera!

[Victor_B]

But still they will sell ...
Find the way.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Invoce

They will create a new medium, and not cut the budget.

Prosecutors must sit there 24x31!
It is safe!
In spherical chambers! (In vacuum)
To not communicate with each other.
And so that they do not communicate in private with any "manager". Generally! Only for round-the-clock recording of 10 video cameras and in the presence of at least 10 people.
So that I didn’t have the right to go to the toilet without a video camera!

There are no barriers that corrupt officials will not overcome. In China, they are shot, but they are not getting smaller. And with our judicial system ...

[Victor_B]

Quote: Piramidon

There are no barriers that corrupt officials will not overcome.

Only annual decimation among managers!

[Azazelo]

Wow application .... for 8 years ...

[U-58]

And what seems to you in the number 8 strange ?? !!
Unless, the figure is very optimistic.
To do something, that is, to learn.
Then make a layout so that everything fits and gets together.
Then samples (full-scale !!!!) for their filling and static tests. Then for the dynamic. Then for the firing ground.
And all this with improvements and elimination of comments after each stage.
Lapping electronics, automation ....
So if everything is done in 8 years, it will be very cool

[shinobi]

Constructor, which means multi-purpose. The moon is going by the wayside. First of all, they are going to sculpt something in orbit. Question is what?

[Insurgent]

Quote: shinobi

something in orbit were going to sculpt. The question is what?

Tiddly, such a "death star", exactly enough to cover the US and NATO, and the rest were not affected ...

[slipped]

Quote: shinobi

Constructor, which means multi-purpose. The moon is going by the wayside. First of all, they are going to sculpt something in orbit. Question is what?

No, it meant that the Yenisei rocket is assembled from a package of six first stages of the Soyuz-5 rocket with RD-171MV, a central unit from the Soyuz-6 first stage with RD-180MV, the third stage A5V with RD-0150, a booster block 14S49 with RD-11D58MF.

The picture is a bit outdated, but gives a general idea:

[shinobi]

Blocks are unified, carriers can be assembled for different payloads. A missile is not specialized for a specific project like N-1 or Saturn-5. Constructor? Constructor. So the moon is not a paramount task. Yes, and why. I repeat, something else is likely, probably more useful and large-scale. Again, without long-term orbital transshipment bases, there can be no talk of any exploration of the moon. But the Yankees will burst, but without orbital logistics, nothing will come of them. As with us.

[steelmaker]

Over the 20 years of Putin’s rule, history has shown that if there is no total control over the means used, there will be NO result! And here 8 years. For comparison, simple. And how much money was allocated for the construction of the Crimean bridge and for this rocket? Does anyone know ???

[bar]

the assembly of the first modules is carried out by the specialists of the Samara Rocket and Space Center "Progress". Rogozin also posted several photos from the assembly shop.

Something in those photos of suspiciously few working people. Campaign "optimization" "Progress" is in full swing.

[slipped]

Quote: bar

Something in those photos of suspiciously few working people. Campaign "optimization" "Progress" is in full swing.

This workshop is under reconstruction and is used as a storage room - in this case, to demonstrate the prototype designs of parts of tanks.

[bar]

If these are just mock-up designs, then the article is all about nothing.

[slipped]

Quote: bar

If these are just mock-up designs, then the article is all about nothing.

For ignoramuses - always, preliminary, before creating directly flight products, their mock-ups are created for various types of bench tests - spills, fire, thermal vacuum, etc. And only then, on the basis of bench tests, the production of product elements for flight design tests begins.

[bar]

Yeah, tell me about the stages of developing new products. I have been doing this all my life. It is by the fact that in the subject, and I say - the conversation is about nothing.

[slipped]

Quote: bar

Yeah, tell me about the stages of developing new products. I have been doing this all my life. It is by the fact that in the subject, and I say - the conversation is about nothing.

Yeah, already told. Soyuz-5 will soon have OSI at the Central Research Institute of RTK. So clear?

[bar]

Let's wait and see. I hope we survive.

[venom11]

Here's another nonsense from Rogozin arrived in time! Another glorious story after the world leadership of the Angara family of rockets, the lunar base, the Federation spaceship, the space trampoline and the space elevator! Rogozin is great - he has clearly learned one rule that you need to constantly remind yourself ... and it doesn't matter that it is cosmic nonsense!

[rocket757]

hee hee hee ... and suddenly fly?

[venom11]

Of course it will fly! But ... not high and not long. But they didn’t promise another)))

[rocket757]

That’s what they’d do as they should and fly where necessary ... who needs these statements, which often remain empty, NEED ???
That's all!

[v_bueff]

The tank shells are great.

[Jurkovs]

This is all the roguish essence of Rogozin. They did the details of Soyuz-5, and he is already shouting about the Yenisei.

[slipped]

Quote: Jurkovs

This is all the roguish essence of Rogozin. They did the details of Soyuz-5, and he is already shouting about the Yenisei.

The whole fraudulent entity is your comment here. The first stage of the Irtysh is precisely the first stage of the future Yenisei.

models of annular elements of the tank

[ApJlekuHo]

The first step of the Irtysh is exactly the first step of the future Yenisei.

models of annular elements of the tank

I was always amazed at how we manage to build new promising, super-heavy missiles "Yenisei", in the rusty assembly shops of the Soviet era. Looks like a super-deep conspiracy, which is trumpeted on all the news.

[slipped]

Quote: ApJlekuHo

I was always amazed at how we manage to build new promising, super-heavy missiles "Yenisei", in the rusty assembly shops of the Soviet era.

Nothing is being built in this workshop; it is generally under repair. Where rockets are built with the workshop, everything is fine.

[ApJlekuHo]

Where rockets are built with the workshop, everything is fine.

So it remains to take someone's word for it, as always. There is a photo, but this is not a rocket, but a model. And not in the assembly shop, but in the old "not working" one. But in the new one, work is in full swing and rockets are being built. "I said, Vasya" Thank you for your opinion.
In the news picture, the same rusty barn by the way. There

State corporation "Roscosmos" began production of the first modules of the promising Russian super-heavy rocket "Yenisei"

[slipped]

Quote: ApJlekuHo

So it remains, to take someone's word, as always. There is a photo, but this is not a rocket, but a layout.

Before making a rocket, which is carried by a satellite, various layouts are made, they are called stand products. Which pass all kinds of tests. Tests take about two years.

Quote: ApJlekuHo

And not in the assembly shop, but in the old "not working" one.

RCC "Progress" is a large enterprise. There are many different workshops.

Quote: ApJlekuHo

But in the new one, work is in full swing there and rockets are being built.

More than 40 Soyuz-2 missiles are being built in serial production.

Quote: ApJlekuHo

In the news picture, the same rusty barn by the way.

Workshop under reconstruction. This has been said above. Products in it are displayed just for display:

Quote: ApJlekuHo

There

State corporation "Roscosmos" began production of the first modules of the promising Russian super-heavy rocket "Yenisei"

Shashechki you or go?

[Jurkovs]

The first stage of the Irtysh is exactly the first stage of the future Yenisei

Do you think that the trials of the Yenisei will begin earlier than the Union-5? Oh well.

[slipped]

Quote: Jurkovs

Do you think that the trials of the Yenisei will begin earlier than the Union-5? Oh well.

What nonsense. Tests of Soyuz-5 units are already underway. LCI since 2022. Tests of the Yenisei assembly will begin no earlier than 2026. The first stage of Soyuz-5 is the Yenisei's first stage rocket module. Therefore, while testing the Soyuz-5 stage, there are also tests of the first stage for the Yenisei - that's what Rogozin said. I gave a drawing here, you can see everything there.

[ultra]

In 8 years "either the donkey or the emir", well, Rogozin will not be 100% in Roskosmos. So the "paper" will endure everything.

[Boratsagdiev]

Hopefully a lot of the "composites" will do.
Weight gain can be good.

[Titus]

Well, in fact, they are already doing something other than high-profile statements ... well, let's hope.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Yrec

The lunar program was only for forces in the USA and the USSR, as if navels were not torn.

Nothing, we tighten the strap so that it does not dissolve the gut, and build it. Leisurely. No one will be able to take the championship in space exploration from us. From the word NEVER.
To such figures, to them like to Mongolia on four-wheeled .....

[Lexus]

Curve plate. For the sake of the USSR, it would be added there. For it was during its 30 space years that 70% of the aforementioned launches took place. And all the carriers are still Soviet in design. And in terms of accidents, competitors have significantly improved their performance, while Russia has multiplied the number of unsuccessful launches. It is the "Unions" of the Soviet period that are the most massive and reliable launch vehicles in the entire joint history of man and space.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: siberalt

Gene. the prosecutor has just established the massive use of counterfeits in rocketry, and we are already going to the moon. Or will we first remove the counterfeits from the assembly so that the "moonwalker" does not get stuck on the road?

Are you sweeping the prosecutor? Then come on, here are the facts, links, lists, and more.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: BoratSagdiev

Hopefully a lot of the "composites" will do.
Weight gain can be good.

The body construct is 2% of the mass of the entire product. And the gain in saving this mass component will be penniless. Engines, and all kinds of compressors. pumps, etc. iron is a significant proportion. And, the main one is, of course, fuel and an oxidizing agent. The way to increase efficiency is on the cost-effectiveness and efficiency of the engines. Only reserves here. And our dviguny so far unsurpassed.

[Forest]

The flags have been removed and now all of Ukraine and Poland are telling: "what a bad cosmonautics we have" - ​​yes, yes, Rogozin's "fans" are a separate diagnosis.

[Brancodd]

Exactly. Half of them work with Lenta.ru. Owner Mamut. Method - discredit Roskosmos. The goal is to minimize the space program. And not without success. In 2016, Prime Minister Medvedev halved funding for the space program.

[Engineer]

I don’t understand in any way: does Rogozin have porridge in his head or does he consciously rearrange everything upside down to create the appearance of vigorous activity, but no one understands which? Tanks for the Soyuz-5 rocket. It is being built. She has not even flown. And he already writes that the Yenisei is being built on its base!

[slipped]

Quote: Engineer

I do not understand in any way:

According to the project, the design of the first stage of the Soyuz-5 rocket is a rocket module of the first stage of the Yenisei, right? The creation of such a module will make it possible to assemble a package from them for the Yenisei. And the title of this article is on the conscience of the person who wrote it.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: lexus

Curve plate. For the sake of the USSR, it would be added there. For it was during its 30 space years that 70% of the aforementioned launches took place. And all the carriers are still Soviet in design. And in terms of accidents, competitors have significantly improved their performance, while Russia has multiplied the number of unsuccessful launches. It is the "Unions" of the Soviet period that are the most massive and reliable launch vehicles in the entire joint history of man and space.

No need to fart in a puddle. Russia is the successor of the USSR, and, undoubtedly, has taken out the largest share in space exploration. Recognized by everyone in the world, the UN, the UN Security Council, inherited all the treaties and obligations of the USSR. And, only you did not recognize it. Do you take a big role, overwhelming, on yourself, pygmy?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Engineer

I don’t understand in any way: does Rogozin have porridge in his head or does he consciously rearrange everything upside down to create the appearance of vigorous activity, but no one understands which? Tanks for the Soyuz-5 rocket. It is being built. She has not even flown. And he already writes that the Yenisei is being built on its base!

Can a successful design be borrowed on another machine? Well tested, if not in space, then on stands, on Earth?
Or in order to use, you need to drive somewhere and get a seal on permission? It is not clear that the Yenisei is a bunch of modules of another rocket? And with a small fraction of the original parts?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Zaletshik

I’m even afraid to write something here ... Now they will fly and immediately trample.
At the end of the 80s in the 90s, Russia was good here for many I look .. Well, well

And what is not clear here? The tit was full, it got to everyone slurping, only in Russia (RSFSR) the residual principle worked. And when they pulled everything out, they decided that the other tit was sweeter. Understand the pros and cons?



For the mountaineers from the CMEA countries there was a very similar picture.

At Solovyov’s program, a certain pan Koreyba declared that if we would give more to the EU, they would not go there. Frankly, in a prostitute way.