Why scary Academician Pivovarov


How often, on various occasions, I read a rather worn-out phrase: “If this had not happened, then it would have to have been invented.” Just because without this the world would be a little more boring. Darker, if you will. Like, for example, any phrase that mentions Putin’s surname in a positive way. You’ll write a phrase that the president was right in some ways, and (the probability of the event is 100%) someone will immediately run after the dung to put it on the landing in front of your door ...


However, this statement also works in the opposite direction. It is enough to go to any discussion platform of the liberals or to the channel of a more or less adequate and clever liberal to see the “Kuchkonosos” from the opposite camp. Exactly with the same zeal, they encircle the doors of the authors there too.

What can we say, we can argue. We have such a tradition. Today's young people rarely use one expression, which was only recently known to everyone, from the vocabulary of bazaar traders: “And he put on his glasses, a lousy intellectual! ..”

A new block of constitutional amendments on the “nation-forming nation”


Now for public discussion, President Putin has proposed yet another constitutional amendment. This block of amendments concerns the foundations of the constitutional system, or rather, the concept of “state-forming people”. The topic is really serious, requiring a thoughtful attitude. On the one hand, it is necessary to consolidate the role of the Russian people in the creation of Russia, and on the other hand, not to forget the role of other peoples in this process.

Each of us, citizens of the Russian Federation, has his own thoughts on this matter. However, to form an objective picture, it is worth looking at the opinion of the opposite camp. What I did, visiting the personal page of the historian Yuri Pivovarov, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences. On March 4, he posted his own thoughts on this subject under the saying, “I'm scared.”

It is clear that the author laid down his vision, his attitude, his feelings for what is happening in the title of his material. He is really scared. Not because changes to the articles of the constitution will lead to some significant change in the state system of the Russian Federation. No, the author is afraid because the first time he will be openly told about the social character of our state. For the first time, we are openly returning to the national idea of ​​Russia. To the nationality, if you will.

If we discard tinsel, which has stuck a lot to the most liberal idea over the past years, then in the bottom line we will see a fairly simple and understandable idea to everyone. Society, people, nation - nothing, man - everything. Man is the measure of everything. So, it is necessary to "turn" into Europe or America. Each for himself, do you remember this "law of the jungle" in the mouth of the jackal Tabaki?

Great idea. If we discard the centuries-old history Of Russia. For the millennium, we had everything. Including "every man for himself." True, it was during these periods that they strangled us. It was just those who strangled us precisely such ideas, who supported separatism, who advocated the separation of principalities, and so on. But as soon as he was the one who collected the scattered fingers into a fist, the country again came to the leading position in world politics.

The essence of claims to the proposals of the president


It is clear that everything that Putin proposes is unacceptable to liberals. Not because it does not match their position. No, simply because it was proposed by Putin. Let's see the essence of the claims. I do not want to interpret the author. Direct quoting is always better. The reader himself has the right to evaluate any statement.

“Immediately questions: who will receive the right to enter the“ state-forming ”people? Who will prove their Russian identity? And why, in fact, the constitutional theme of the equal rights of all citizens is replaced by the legally irrelevant theme of the equal rights of the "state-forming" people with other peoples? Have we really witnessed interference in the “inviolable” chapter I of the “Foundations of the constitutional order”? Article 3 says there: “The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.” Who is now the bearer of sovereignty? "State-forming people"? Or is this people, together with their equal rights? ”

Agree, correctly posed questions that many people ask themselves, regardless of their political views. They ask simply because it’s scary to conceal any sin. It is terrible to destroy the world order in a state that has existed for many years. It’s scary to offend someone or to elevate someone. And who are we afraid to offend? And whom do we exalt?

Show me a man who with 100 percent certainty will tell what his nationality is by blood. Even in a forgotten mountain village or on a Siberian settlement, not to mention the Russian steppes, there was always a daredevil who brought his wife from another people to his house. And this woman became her own for the people. And her children were their own. History “kneaded” us so abruptly that the resulting “bread” became its own for everyone.

The same bunch that liberals carry under our door


“And I would also like to ask: is a“ state-forming ”people the same people that once created the Russian state? Or do we mean today's ethnic Russians, on whom the state mainly relies? That is, we are talking about the past or the present? What were other “equal peoples” busy with? Participated in the "formation of the state", interfered with this process, remained outside observers? And is there any historical and legal gradation of “equal peoples”? "Fellow travelers", historically close, historically alien, historically hostile? Or are all the “non-state-forming” peoples in the same position, in the same category? ”

I honestly admit that the academician hit very nicely on the "national issue" in Russia. Sneakily threw up the idea that in the process of joining Russia, to Russia, in any nation there were those who did not agree with this. Those who had to fight. Everything is in the style of liberals. So what if the majority of the people decided to become part of Russia? But there was a man, even many “people” who were against it!

But there is one more thought in this quote. Deep buried, but understandable. This is a “historical memory” of hostile peoples. Oddly enough, but the author uses a trick condemned by liberals at all venues. "Fellow travelers", historically close, historically alien, historically hostile? " In fact, they offer us their attitude to the traitors who were in any nation, to transfer to the whole nation. As it happened during the war with some peoples of the USSR.

Let us remember the deportation of the Chechens, but forget about the five Heroes of the Soviet Union who were representatives of this small nation. It is necessary to add here and four Heroes to whom this title was awarded for feats in the Great Patriotic War in the years 80-90. Let us remember the deportation of the Crimean Tatars, but forget about the six Heroes of the Soviet Union. Forget about the twice Hero of the Soviet Union Amet Khan Sultan. Well, it doesn’t work out that way.

And then the academician slides completely to the level of a schoolboy. To be honest, reading this from a reputable person is disgusting. I understand that for want of a better one needs to be content with what you have. But it’s not frank to pour slops. To flirt with the "representatives of progressive youth" there are other "opposition". Like Alexei Navalny or Ksenia Sobchak.

“And how can one distinguish a representative of a“ state-forming ”people from the rest? Maybe some obligatory patches on clothes? Is there any clarity here? Already started to solve this important problem? I have a proposal - a patch on which is written: "The representative of an equal non-state-forming people." This is necessary to do first of all in big cities, where various ethnic groups live. ”


Russian Federation - a state without a past


“Well, firstly, the USSR was a country of aggressive atheism and atheism. Secondly, what kind of “memory of the ancestors” and what “ideals” are we talking about? Bolsheviks are one thing; pre-Bolsheviks are another. In addition, it should be remembered that the USSR did not consider itself the successor of Russia. That is, clinging to the USSR, we are disconnecting from Russia (pre-Bolshevik and Bolshevik). Thirdly, “faith in God” becomes a constitutional provision, a principle. Thus, voluntarily or involuntarily, confusion is introduced into the issue of sovereignty. ”

Like this. The USSR is a country of aggressive atheism and atheism ... But tell me, “atheists” from the USSR, how many of us were baptized in Christian churches, how many converted to Islam, how many Jews have always been Jews, and how many were giyur? I will not list all the religions that were and remain on the territory of our country. And most of the representatives of these religions joined the faith back then, under the USSR.

Do not confuse militant atheism of the post-revolutionary years with post-war atheism. No one ever asked a person about faith. And atheists and believers differed only in one, for the most part. Some said, “There is no God,” others said, “There is God.” But both of them did not bother looking for evidence or reading any books, including the Bible. What for? This is a personal matter.

And the fact that faith in God, according to the proposed amendments, becomes a constitutional provision, again does not affect our attitude to God as such. Rather, this provision legalizes religion as an integral part of our lives. Just tired of lying to ourselves. And yet, if the edition that is now being proposed is adopted, then it is faith in God. Not in Allah, not in Jesus, not in Yahweh, not in Buddha ... God can be called in different ways.

On the attitude to "diminishing the feat of the people in the defense of the patronymic"


At the end of my thoughts today I will touch on this issue. Moreover, Academician Pivovarov left this question for the "basement". Until the end of his material, which for most modern readers, alas, remains "Terra Incognita." This is how modern man works. Understands and can argue about the article without even reading to the end.

"It is not allowed to diminish the feat of the people in the defense of the Fatherland." The right and duty of the state to “protect historical truth” is established. What is it? About what? - “The feat of the people in the defense of the Fatherland”? When, in what era? Or always? - Then the history of Russia comes down to a “feat”. If it was said about the Patriotic War, then it is clear. Maybe in general this is the main feat of our people. And what is “historical truth”? Who formulated it? What is she doing? “It’s somehow not legally foggy, generally.”

That's how it is. There is no explanation of the moments when you can spoil the history of your own country, and when you can get a deadline for it. And it doesn’t matter at all that crap and sorting out causes and effects are two different things. It doesn’t matter at all that already in our memory, our grandfathers and great-great-grandfathers poured mud over our fellow citizens many times. Descendants of war heroes who “see” the events of those years.

How many pseudo-stories are now pouring from television screens, from Internet sites, from the lips of freedom-loving politicians! Take any modern political talk show. There is always a type that is always unhappy. Won the war? And who asked us? Have you taken Berlin? And how many people died in this? .. And most importantly, all this, coupled with no history teaching at school, is in the head of our youth.

“It was, it is, and it will always be so!” Anthem of the Soviet Union


When I started reading the post of academician Yuri Pivovarov, I did not have an understanding of why it became scary. I myself am not distinguished by the ability to write beautiful and attractive headings for the reader. But, having read and thought over the material, I realized that the author was really scared.

He was afraid that the time was coming when Russia as a state was becoming what the liberals wanted it to be. When democracy becomes truly democracy, not permissiveness. When the rule of law will be real, and not just declared. Paradox? Not at all.

“Is it possible to criticize the behavior of the Russian upper echelons (= belittle?)? For example, for the outbreak of the Soviet-Finnish ("winter") war and the invasion of Afghanistan? I suspect that this is now a "diminution." And thereby undermining the constitutional foundations of society. ”
“We are clearly on the way to an antidemocratic, repressive-suppressing order. Some archaic potentially violent strata of consciousness and psyche become actualized. Again, not a man, a citizen - a measure of things, but "peoples", "historical truth", etc. Once again we are entering the time of the “official nation”, “enriched” by the terrible experience of the XNUMXth century. ”

The fear of traitors, the fear of those who advocate the destruction of the country as such, is understandable. What can be called a great holiday for every Russian family, or rather, for every Soviet family, simply because then we were a single whole, Victory Day - “victory”? How can we seriously talk about the outbreak of the Second World War of the USSR?

How should I, the people, relate to liberals after saying that “the majority of advanced youth are leaving abroad because of a lack of prospects”? I can think of a continuation of thought very well. It turns out that only ignoramuses and morons remain in Russia. Not advanced youth. Herd…

Usually I suggest adding something to the proposed amendments. I won’t do it today. I will not yet. Indeed, the issues that are brought up for discussion are extremely important. The answers, in principle, are known to me. But the wording really needs to be worked on. So that later, after a short time, it was not necessary to accept a bunch of amendments to the new constitution.

And I specifically took the words from the Anthem of the USSR from the material of Yuri Pivovarov. Just because Russia was, is and will be ... Russia. Not Germany, not the USA, not Switzerland or any other country. We are strong in our faith, our friendship, our diversity, our courage. We are different, but we are Russian ... Russians of different nationalities.
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  1. New Year day 7 March 2020 17: 04 New
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    Beautifully written, and I want to say "approvals." Here is just one question: why did they reject the amendment to ban Russian officials from real estate abroad? And the Presidential Administration explained the decision by saying that this would force parliamentarians and officials to abandon their property or resign from their posts.
    Those. our "servants of the people" will live there, and earn here? And their personal well-being for the government is much more important than the security and well-being of the country.
    All for the "patriots" with foreign countries and villas behind the cordon? The road "Rodnin" and jumpers from Monaco?
    1. tol100v 7 March 2020 17: 17 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Those. our "servants of the people" will live there,

      I would like to hope that several hundred or thousands of “servants of the people” will live according to the laws of war in places “strictly defined” and preferably without the “right of correspondence”!
      1. New Year day 7 March 2020 17: 20 New
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        Quote: Tol100v
        Hopes

        Alas! The administration of our president has already spoken out ...
        Quote: Silvestr
        this would force parliamentarians and officials to abandon their property or resign.

        hi
        1. dorz 7 March 2020 17: 44 New
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          A total of 364 amendments were made to the State Duma, the ban on ownership of foreign real estate for parliament and the state disappeared. employees but There remained a ban on foreign citizenship for officials.
          1. New Year day 7 March 2020 17: 46 New
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            Quote: dorz
            There remained a ban on foreign citizenship for officials.

            it’s clear that real estate will be copied to grandparents, because they tried so hard to keep and keep the inheritance of their grandfathers and grandmothers
            1. domokl 7 March 2020 19: 58 New
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              Quote: Silvestr
              it’s clear that real estate will be copied to grandparents,

              Here is the answer to your first question. But seriously, the question you posed is not correct. A person has the right to buy any property anywhere. The question should be posed differently. Where did the money come from, Zin? If you prove the law, then there will be no questions. And the inheritance from her grandmother who died in a Bose in the Siberian taiga, which left millions found in Kolchak’s times ...
              1. Svarog 7 March 2020 20: 18 New
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                Quote: domokl
                Where did the money come from, Zin? If you prove the law, then there will be no questions.

                But we don’t need to prove the law, we need to prove the illegality - and who will do it if there is nepotism and corruption around?
              2. astepanov 7 March 2020 20: 42 New
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                Quote: domokl
                The question you posed is not correct. A person has the right to buy any property anywhere.
                Question: WHAT person has such a de facto right? I say, I do not have. And most of this is not possible. Overwhelming majority. The gentlemen of the deputies already have enough privileges. But if the deputy's wife, children, parents live over the hill, and there is property, if he (unlike all others) has somewhere to escape, then he did not care about the country. And "there" they can hold him for zebras, so that he works not for Russia, but for a foreign uncle. And, probably, they are holding - if not all, then many. Otherwise, they would not have accepted the draconian pension reform, indexed pensions for working pensioners, introduced a progressive pension tax, didn’t “optimize” health care and education until the collapse, didn’t make medicines together with fuflomycin ... Maybe these were mythical “liberals” through parliament all this crap? No, they were all “patriots” (with junk and families over the hill, with residence permits and second passports in their pockets).
                What remains of the edits? Empty declarations, god and state council. For the sake of this, it seems, everything was started: under the beautiful "blah blah blah" bury rot. And who will give guarantees that tomorrow these “blah blahs” will not get legal, with references to the Constitution, filling in the form of religious discord and the columns “nationality” in the passport - with all the consequences? Having said “a,” they will say “b,” and one cannot believe the promises: some also promised a lot about pension reforms.
                And is that why we will vote in favor of the amendments in bulk? By golly, I wouldn’t be too lazy, would read from cover to cover and put checkmarks according to reason and conscience. And so - I will vote against. AGAINST!
                1. Pushkar 7 March 2020 22: 00 New
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                  Quote: astepanov
                  By golly, I wouldn’t be too lazy, would read from cover to cover and put checkmarks according to reason and conscience. And so - I will vote against. AGAINST!

                  I think after reading “cover to cover” you will vote “against” even faster: https://www.rod-pravo.org/polnyj-tekst-popravok-v-konstituciyu-vnesennyj-2-marta-v-dumu/
                2. Dimmedroll 9 March 2020 15: 42 New
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                  You are wrong no one has the right to forbid you to buy real estate in any country in the world. And this can be done legally and directly through the Internet. Therefore, your promise has no reason. About the columns of nationality in the passport, for example, I do not see anything bad. This is the right of everyone to fill it out or not. For example, it was not clear to me why it was removed for what it was done?
              3. Umalta 7 March 2020 21: 13 New
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                In the USA, tax authorities also work on the principle of acquired property, spending, including luxury, and if you do not prove the legitimacy of the proceeds of the acquisition, then you can sit down to life. I think such a law is very relevant for our country.
                1. boni592807 8 March 2020 15: 05 New
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                  Also, it is desirable for non-native nationalities of the “Novorossiyans”.
                  In the USA, in the flesh before the deportation of migrant families who have received citizenship and confiscation of property. including for violation of criminal law.
                  We look around - not only markets, shops, etc. Its - just the Criminal Code.
                  We give the situation on cf. and small business - for guests and their own. We watch on TV about ethnic gangs and the "owners" of cities.
                2. Revival 8 March 2020 22: 45 New
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                  So, our bones lie down blocking the ratification of the convention "on corruption" where evidence (explanation) about "income expense" is spelled out. And somehow the priority of international laws doesn’t interfere with TM)))
                  Because he really is not!
              4. New Year day 7 March 2020 23: 27 New
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                Quote: domokl
                The question should be posed differently.

                hi
                if everything is yours there, abroad, then who are you, a citizen of which country, whom do you serve? Where is your future? Where are your children?
                involuntarily remember Brzezinski, maybe he is right?
                1. Victor N 8 March 2020 09: 17 New
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                  And if not “everything is yours there”, but only a small part - a house for rest - also execute? Why categorical?
                  1. Artavazdych 8 March 2020 11: 20 New
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                    And without this house, he can’t live, or what? Buy a house on Lake Baikal, in Kamchatka, in Karelia.
                    - No! Only Hawaii!
                    Why is this categorical?
                    1. balunn 11 March 2020 14: 03 New
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                      one propagandist has already explained to you about a villa in Italy. It's cheaper there ... :)
                      1. Artavazdych 11 March 2020 19: 44 New
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                        Anecdote from 90's.
                        - How much did the raspberry jacket take?
                        - 800 $
                        - Well, you went nuts! Could take the exact same mowing around the corner
                  2. georgiigennadievitch 9 March 2020 15: 17 New
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                    Maybe it’s yours. But most likely this is not so. One familiar prosecutor once told me that he considers the adopted laws of the economic sphere as instructions on impunity theft. If you look at what the deputies do not like from this angle, then it’s quite such a situation looms up for himself: an official, a deputy, etc. (everyone who was supposed to ban foreign real estate) works in Russia "on a rotational basis", has cool real estate "over the hill" for all family members, lovers (lovers). For the weekend and on holidays takes a break from troubles she’s got “rushki” for him and spends money earned by “overwork”, where his overseas property and his dear abroad are dear to his heart. And when “life presses”, or by thoughtlessness, “pierces” somewhere, or the toad strangles and refuses to “share” with someone who is cooler, then he will disappear either incognito or “legally” to reunite with his beloved mother. Then he can send a statement “of his own free will”, or he may not send it. And mind you, he is clean before the law, because he didn’t seem to do anything forbidden. The question arises, is this generally whose “deputy” or a high-ranking state secret bearer official? Ours, or a Cossack mishandled? This sinecure for the elect had to be covered up yesterday, because such an "elite", by definition, at best, works only for itself. And by thoughtlessness, or by malice for someone, to whom Russia got stuck across her throat. So, this question takes on a fundamental character and certain properties of “litmus paper” and precisely answers the question, once asked by the “humpback” -who from hu?
                2. Edward Vashchenko 8 March 2020 09: 59 New
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                  In the USA, to the selected person or official, if there is information in the press about real estate abroad or a family abroad, nothing shines at all - the cross is always on a career. And we suddenly decided to throw the bone off the shoulder of the master, but ... do not touch the main thing, earned and taken out by overwork. Nothing to discuss - the amendments are a complete farce.
                  And the “Russians” are being introduced as a cover operation.
                3. bender528 8 March 2020 17: 40 New
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                  And here we got to: "The government lives on another planet, dear."
                  Kin-Dza-Dza- more and more relevant laughing
              5. Moore 8 March 2020 07: 41 New
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                Quote: domokl
                The question should be posed differently. Where is the money from, Zin

                There is another question: what will the bureaucrat do when they’ll grab him for pizza (crossed out) there will be a danger of losing their foreign real estate due to the possibility of further sanctions, direct threats of rejection by the authorities of any country "acquired by overwork", etc.?
                1. Overlock 8 March 2020 12: 20 New
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                  There is another question: what will the bureaucrat do when they grab him at the pizza

                  .. the answer is obvious even to the blind
              6. nickname7 8 March 2020 09: 54 New
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                A person has the right to buy any property and anywhere

                A man is a man of strife, the General of Moscow Region and Kirkorov living in London is a big difference is not it?
              7. lis-ik 8 March 2020 15: 58 New
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                Quote: domokl
                A person has the right to buy any property anywhere.

                Yes, a person has a right. A high-ranking official or other carrier of state secrets and having the ability to influence state policy is categorically NO!
              8. IS-80_RVGK2 8 March 2020 16: 54 New
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                Are you kidding me? What other legality does capital have in the 90s? And yes, even if you forget about such a trifle as the extraction of surplus value.
          2. nickname7 8 March 2020 09: 50 New
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            the ban on owning foreign property for parliament and state has disappeared. employees

            This is extremely important for the interests of the Russian Federation. Since the ability to accumulate wealth in other jurisdictions has sad consequences for the country.
            In the West there are so many opportunities for spending (a developed services sector, luxury goods) that it provokes bureaucrats to "earn" money as if they were not in themselves, taking money from their housing and communal services, from construction sites, from salaries. And the ability to disappear for justice means impunity, which provokes corruption.

            Ownership of foreign real estate for parliament and state. employees - this is an outflow of capital and increased corruption.
          3. Snail N9 8 March 2020 10: 09 New
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            But why have foreign citizenship yourself? You do-you buy citizenship for your wife and children, and yourself a residence permit and voila! -When you need to get citizenship, you just apply for "family reunion" - in many countries such a cartoon works. And for many, a "residence permit" is enough for all - the same thing as a "citizenship", but without the right to work in government agencies and "choose and be elected."
          4. Private89 8 March 2020 10: 44 New
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            Yes, no changes in the constitution will change or abolish the fundamental contradictions between the people and the class of people who seized power in the 91st year. Yes, yes, they have not disappeared, only the faces have changed, and the class has remained. Our degradation and extinction are a direct consequence of the socio-economic model that "our" power is building. And no mention of God or the state that forms the people will change the situation of ordinary people for the better - this is how to discuss a beautiful candy wrapper without discussing the contents, but it smells very bad. Let's be honest, the bowels of the earth and all the commanding heights in the economy do not work to create socially significant benefits for everyone, but only for a handful of parasites and this is the main problem and contradiction - ownership of the means of production. I am sure the cries will begin that you want socialism, you want to take it away and share it! Yes, we need socialism, and “Take away and share” is just about this system that is being built now, about capitalism, but we want justice so that everything created by the work of ordinary people should serve them and not be appropriated by a bunch of parasites.
          5. Badger 9 March 2020 16: 16 New
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            Because it is a federal law on the prohibition of foreign citizenship.
        2. matross 7 March 2020 17: 49 New
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          Alas!

          Did you read the article before getting in with your next “alas”?
          If you even read the beginning, then I think we could understand that the topic of manure is about you.
          1. New Year day 7 March 2020 17: 51 New
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            You managed to read the article

            Only after you... laughing
        3. Vladimir61 7 March 2020 17: 56 New
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          Quote: Silvestr
          Alas! The administration of our president has already spoken out ...

          You won’t erase words from the text! There was a reservation ..
          “Foreign real estate has remained, because now many politicians and officials have it”
          Let's hope that over time this “swamp” will be cleaned up!
          1. Tatyana 7 March 2020 19: 04 New
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            Quote: Vladimir61
            You won’t erase words from the text! There was a clause .. “Foreign real estate has remained, because now many politicians and officials have it” Let's hope that over time this “swamp” will be cleaned up!

            You forgot what exactly HOPES in practice are dying LAST! (Sarcasm.)
            There is nothing CONSTANT than TEMPORARY! repeat
            1. Beringovsky 7 March 2020 19: 33 New
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              Quote: Tatiana

              There is nothing CONSTANT than TEMPORARY! repeat

              You can fool some all the time, you can fool everyone for a while, but you can’t fool around all and always.
              1. astepanov 7 March 2020 20: 45 New
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                You can fool some all the time, you can fool everyone for a while, but you can’t fool everyone and always.

                “It’s a pity that only me and you will not have to live in this wonderful time” (C). How right was the classic! No wonder they are not studying him at school now.
            2. boni592807 8 March 2020 15: 17 New
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              For all N0000 ...% I agree with you !!! hi
              BUT, if there is an opportunity to change the situation evolutionarily, and not revolutionary. (I hope many understand the difference), then I need to use it (the situation) to the fullest.
              There are no illusions, there is awareness of the PRICE and the CONSEQUENCES!
          2. Edward Vashchenko 8 March 2020 10: 01 New
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            Let's hope that over time this “swamp” will be cleaned up!

            When did the economy slide to 1,7% of the world? will be cleaned when Turkey overtakes us!
            good good
            Blessed is he who believes good
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          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: Silvestr
          this would force parliamentarians and officials to abandon their property or resign.

          So it will be a great blessing to the people .. if mediocrity finally leaves their posts ..
          1. nickname7 8 March 2020 08: 33 New
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            So it will be a great blessing to the people .. if mediocrity finally leaves their posts

            That's right, you don’t need to be afraid that residents of foreign states will leave the government, this is good for the turn. Give the Russians in the Russian government.
          2. Victor N 8 March 2020 09: 22 New
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            Mediocrity is all who have property? Somewhat inadequate ....
            1. Fan-fan 8 March 2020 12: 18 New
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              Vitya, don’t “distort” the conversation about government officials working for the good of Russia; you don’t need to mix all the people here.
      2. mat-vey 7 March 2020 17: 21 New
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        Quote: Tol100v
        Quote: Silvestr
        Those. our "servants of the people" will live there,

        I would like to hope that several hundred or thousands of “servants of the people” will live according to the laws of war in places “strictly defined” and preferably without the “right of correspondence”!

        And who will put them there?
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          Quote: mat-vey
          And who will put them there?

          So they change the Constitution for themselves, it is clear that no one wassat
          1. mat-vey 7 March 2020 18: 19 New
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            Well, no one was going to with the old one. And after they change, they will help even more so.
          2. Pavel57 7 March 2020 19: 58 New
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            And for whom was the Yeltsin Constitution written?
      3. Mavrikiy 7 March 2020 19: 39 New
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        Quote: Tol100v
        Quote: Silvestr
        Those. our "servants of the people" will live there,

        I would like to hope that several hundred or thousands of “servants of the people” will live according to the laws of war in places “strictly defined” and preferably without the “right of correspondence”!

        Why not? Let them make a choice and make no mistake.
      4. seregarodionov 7 March 2020 23: 05 New
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        Well, we find work at the place of registration. Registration and the rest they came up with. The further they live from the places of plucking, the more they crap away from their habitats.
    2. Erich 7 March 2020 17: 20 New
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      Yes, soon the article will be available for critics of the government. Like said that the parliamentarian has a villa, and you’ll be put in jail and a fine that will be given to the parliamentarian)) Like he said your mouth was dry))
      1. domokl 7 March 2020 20: 04 New
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        Quote: Erich
        Like said that the parliamentarian has the villa, and you are in jail and the fine that the parliamentarian will give)

        By the tribunal's decision. You can prove that you told the truth, no one will punish. And then we are accustomed to the fact that Emelya is shallow — your week, coupled with “this is my personal opinion”, makes a person unpunished. For words, especially in the federal media or the Internet, you must answer. I’m personally tired of the fact that you can water everyone with mud. Remember the presidential candidate Sobchak ... Wasn’t it disgusting?
        1. Svarog 7 March 2020 20: 23 New
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          Quote: domokl
          For words, especially in the federal media or the Internet, you must answer. I’m personally tired of the fact that you can water everyone with mud. Remember the presidential candidate Sobchak ... Wasn’t it disgusting?

          Only the "chosen ones" answer, but those who really have to answer for some reason do not answer .. So Putin said to the whole country, as long as I am not the president of pension reform .. or Solovyov live can offend anyone he wants .. there are a lot of examples to collect .. How to deal with this? And what’s the personal opinion of a person that bothers you personally, even if it’s mistaken, I admit that it’s paid, but even in this case I don’t see a problem .. it’s just an opinion in an environment where “everything is fine” it will look like spoiled air .. here where there really are problems .. Or are Soloviev and Kiselyov not being paid, moreover, from our pocket?
          Funny democracy is obtained .. and freedom of speech .. anyone can do everything, and someone must certainly be responsible .. And how did you live for 30 years before that? Or is this the problem .. due to the fact that people do not correctly express their thoughts, we have problems with demography, economics, science .. etc.
          1. Campanella 7 March 2020 22: 20 New
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            The fact of the matter is that the Brewers g ... And against whom he also drowns g ...
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              Quote: Campanella
              The fact of the matter is that the Brewers g ... And against whom he also drowns g ...

              Brewers - it is IT! Only after all, it is presented to us as the bearer of some idea. This is a crook and there is no way to call him! And we are offered a choice: if you are with Pivovarov or with power? And why is power better than Pivovarov, after all, they, the brewers, are in power!
              1. Victor N 8 March 2020 09: 29 New
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                Brewers are not in power, he is an ACADEMICIAN. Seen living academics? I chose a vile lesson.
        2. Pushkar 7 March 2020 22: 06 New
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          Quote: domokl
          You can prove that you told the truth, no one will punish. And then we are accustomed to the fact that Emelya is shallow — your week, coupled with “this is my personal opinion”, makes a person unpunished.

          No one has denied Navalny’s film “He is not Dimon,” they simply pretended that this was not the case.
          1. nickname7 8 March 2020 08: 44 New
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            No one has denied Navalny’s film “He is not Dimon for you”

            The fact is that this film puts pressure on emotions, a lot of emotions, with dubious facts. Such films are focused on the easily-perceived, ignoramuses, on whom they want to enter power by throwing the latter under the batons. What did Monty call this category there?
            For a person with even a little ability to think, such films are an insult.
          2. aiden 9 March 2020 01: 03 New
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            And as they refute, they will sue for defamation, and defamation provides for criminal punishment. Either bulk or a dimon would sit. If Dimon sued Alesha, then Alesha would have asked for an open hearing, there would have been a lot more to come up. The source of data from Alesha is the American CIA. The authorities are not profitable to respond to it, and touching it is not profitable. I don’t even doubt the authenticity of Alyosha’s investigations, this is probably 90% close to the truth. PS. Not a fan of him.
        3. mat-vey 8 March 2020 04: 39 New
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          Quote: domokl
          By the tribunal's decision. You can prove that you told the truth, no one will punish.

          Again, everything is a classic - And who are the judges?
        4. AUL
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          Quote: domokl
          I’m personally tired of the fact that you can water everyone with mud. Remember the presidential candidate Sobchak ... Wasn’t it disgusting?

          Well, this is not a good example! Over her neighing people - it is. And another candidate was poured mud, moreover, this was not done by the people, but by “specially trained people” on the state salary!
          And as for the article - the author disappointed me! He quoted many questions of Pivovarov, but did not answer any of them. Just pasted a label that these are "heaps." And, like, there’s nothing to talk about. Primitively somehow!
        5. Erich 8 March 2020 09: 12 New
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          Yeah, I do not like my power, please turn to my court?)) I thought people didn’t perceive fairy tales for a long time))
        6. Edward Vashchenko 8 March 2020 10: 04 New
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          You can prove that you told the truth, no one will punish.

          The presumption of innocence, who accuses the court, he must prove the truth.
          This "parliamentarian" must prove that this is not true and he does not have it.
        7. sniperino 8 March 2020 10: 26 New
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          Quote: domokl
          For words, especially in the federal media or the Internet, you must answer.
          In the information age, the lies of representatives of any media and their transfer of unverified information under the guise of reliable way of hiding its primary source should be equated in severity with corruption and abuse of official position.
    3. Ilya-spb 7 March 2020 17: 24 New
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      I read and understood nothing. Because ... Holiday is tomorrow! Getting ready!

      I will say only one thing: Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin at the celebration of the Great Victory raised a toast to the Great Russian People. The people are a winner.

      Then no one had any questions.

      I am amending the hussar-forming people.

      I'm not scared.
      1. Gardamir 7 March 2020 17: 51 New
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        state-forming people support.
        The trick is that the supplement to the Constitution is not indicated. what kind of people they are, and cars are cunning by writing Russian.
        1. Salty 7 March 2020 17: 55 New
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          Quote: Gardamir
          The trick is that the supplement to the Constitution is not indicated. what kind of people

          "The state language of the Russian Federation throughout its territory is Russian as the language of a nation-forming nation"
          1. Gardamir 7 March 2020 18: 06 New
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            Quote not the author but the president.
            In the paragraph on the state language of Russia, the Russian language is called "the language of the state-forming people." It was noted that the “state-forming people” are equal in rights with other peoples of Russia, and the right to preserve their native language is guaranteed to other peoples.
            how it will be final, we will see when the Constitution is rewritten.
            1. Salty 7 March 2020 18: 08 New
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              Quote: Ilya-spb
              The trick is that the supplement to the Constitution is not indicated. what kind of people

              I have cited the text of the amendment to the Constitution. Everything is clearly indicated there.
              1. Gardamir 7 March 2020 18: 19 New
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                clearly indicated.
                as well?
                “This wording, I read it:“ The state language of the Russian Federation throughout its territory is Russian as the language of a nation-forming nation. ”And then you propose another article four:“ The preservation of ethnocultural and linguistic diversity is guaranteed in the Russian Federation. ”A combination of the first the second seems to me to work very correctly, "Putin said in response to a speech by Mikhail Piotrovsky, member of the working group, Director General of the State Hermitage Museum.

                The President assured that the amendments to the Constitution will ensure the preservation of the linguistic diversity of the peoples of Russia. Thus, he commented on the speech of the Chairman of the State Council of Tatarstan Farid Mukhametshin. The head of state noted that "linguistic diversity is extremely important things for Russia, for a multiconfessional and multinational country."
                1. Salty 7 March 2020 18: 47 New
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                  Quote: Gardamir
                  as well?

                  Yes, at least how. You said that the amendment "does not indicate which people will be considered state-forming." I have given you the text of the amendment, which clearly states this. And you all argue laughing
        2. domokl 7 March 2020 20: 05 New
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          and cars are cunning by writing Russian.

          Oh, how beautiful it is ... Adults are all around. Boltalogy deal with them not by status. Read the amendment
          1. Gardamir 7 March 2020 20: 51 New
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            Read the amendment
            and read the amendment and quoted. Only there is a suspicion that everything will be a little different.
            1. Paranoid50 8 March 2020 00: 33 New
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              Quote: Gardamir
              read the amendment and quoted. Only there is a suspicion

              It's okay, it stops - the clinic wedges out the wedge. wassat wassat wassat
        3. The leader of the Redskins 7 March 2020 20: 17 New
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          I didn’t really like the article at all. The author tried to “parse” the questions of the academician, but he himself did not provide answers to them. He only blamed the pundit for fear of change.
          1. sniperino 8 March 2020 10: 56 New
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            He only blamed the pundit for fear of change.
            Articles and opinions in the media of this learned husband caused nausea back in the 90s due to their pro-American orientation and fear of change, which he portrayed as a "red-brown threat."
    4. Victor N 7 March 2020 17: 59 New
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      Can you leave a house in the Belarusian village of grandmother? Or is it also dangerous for the country?
      1. Gardamir 7 March 2020 18: 08 New
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        A house in a Belarusian village
        In Belarus, the "villain" Lukashenko rules, they may suspect that you are carrying oil in your pockets.
      2. Aleks2048 7 March 2020 18: 18 New
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        Can you leave a house in the Belarusian village of grandmother?

        You can not.
        At the word house, everyone represents a one-story building with a wooden fence in a click and a creaky gate. But some who did not "all" think of Versailles or something like that. And even more than that, you can even buy some island of paradise in a specific place in Belarus, for example, the Ministry of Defense of Belarus, you can build a village and arrange it on Grandma Versailles with a view of the paradise beach. So it’s impossible.
      3. nickname7 8 March 2020 08: 52 New
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        Can you leave a house in the Belarusian village of grandmother?

        If you are a minister, mayor, general of the Moscow Region, then it is impossible, if not an official, but a driver or businessman, then it is possible.
    5. Freeman 7 March 2020 18: 08 New
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      Silvestr (Sylvester) Today, 17: 04
      Here is just one question: why did they reject the amendment to ban Russian officials from real estate abroad?


      Here, really - Why ?!

      After all, after the "enchanting" statement of the CEC head on amendments to the Constitution, as a "complex dinner" in which you can not eat a dish you do not like, any amendments, even to the "execution" Yeltsin constitution - "there are no papers on which are written" .

      Here is the statement
      “Well, you don’t like vinaigrette, but you like borscht or meatballs. You then decide for yourself: no, I’ll refuse the whole dinner, because I don’t like vinaigrette, or I’ll still take - I won’t eat vinaigrette, I’m neither cold nor hot, and borsch and meatballs will be with me ”

      And the video, so as not to be unfounded


      That is, the head of the CEC openly admits that you can not comply with the articles of the "Constitution" that you "do not like."

      BUT! After all, “Power” may also not execute articles that it does not “like”.
      At some point, the “authorities” may not benefit from articles on “territorial integrity”, “indexation of pensions”, “minimum wage”, “prohibition of dual citizenship for civil servants”, “separation of branches of government”, “two terms”, “ freedom of speech "," right to information ", etc. etc.

      IMHO
      The question now is one - "How to deal with it?"
      - Go vote against and thereby create a “quorum” (after all, if more than 50% of the population appears, this “poll”, after the fact, can be declared a “referendum”)
      - Boycott the "vote"by showing the true percentage of "supporters" (but in this case there is no data. what percentage of voters are "siloviki", state employees "and just people who do not understand what they vote for - and they will create a" high turnout ")
    6. Svarog 7 March 2020 18: 15 New
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      Beautifully written, and I want to say "approvals."

      Yes, it’s beautiful, only all media have carefully circumvented the moment of the State Council and the president’s jurisdiction .. They take public opinion far to the side, it is the real reasons why this whole circus is started ..
      But these are the most important changes that await us ..
      1. Basil50 7 March 2020 18: 31 New
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        You're right. Here is just an article about Pivovarov, the one who is an academic today, the one who denies the right of the people to a decent life
        It seems like a historian and at the same time lied and continues to lie about real historical events. At the same time, he loves to remind everyone about his * academy *.
        Although today there are already theologians at the RAS. That's just interesting, but what are they studying? Indeed, apart from those tablets that were dictated on Mount Sinai, there were no more divine messages.
        1. Gardamir 7 March 2020 19: 17 New
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          After all, apart from those tablets that were dictated on Mount Sinai, there were no more divine messages
          There is a joke about this. The day before yesterday I downloaded the Bible on a smartphone. Today an update came out ...
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          Although today there are already theologians at the RAS. That's just interesting, but what are they studying?
          There were and remained scientific communists and no less scientific atheists, only changed their shoes into historians and sociologists. Do you mind
      2. domokl 7 March 2020 20: 11 New
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        only all media gently circumvent the moment-the State Council and not the jurisdiction of the president ..

        By the way, for some reason, the media also bypass the issue of the Tunguska meteorite. The specific material deals with specific amendments. The topic of the State Council was actively discussed when this block of amendments was announced. Now we are waiting for the decision of the people in the State Council .. Why endlessly procrastinate the topic? Read the February materials ...
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          Quote: domokl
          The topic of the State Council was actively discussed when this block of amendments was announced. Now we are waiting for the decision of the people in the State Council .. Why endlessly procrastinate the topic?

          Because it will be necessary to vote in a single package .. accordingly, it is necessary to discuss in general .. otherwise, everything will become blurred and the topic with the state council and the president’s jurisdiction will not be noticed ..
    7. Krasnoyarsk 7 March 2020 18: 31 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Beautifully written, and I want to say "approvals."

      And for me it’s - a fly in the ointment in a barrel of honey. The last sentence of the article is "Russians of different nationalities."
      So he took and actually canceled my nationality. But I do not agree with Staver. I am Russian. And he, most likely, is a RUSSIAN Jew. There is nothing offensive or reprehensible in this.
      A Russian is one whose dad is Russian, and who considers himself Russian despite the fact that his (her) mother is a Martian. But if he (she) wants to consider himself a Martian, then no one forbids this. But then we must say - a Russian, or a citizen of Russia, or a Martian of Russian origin. But not at all - Russian.
      When I first listened to Pivovarov, and they introduced me to him as a historian, I doubted his adequacy. Even Mitrofanushka could not bear such nonsense. Therefore, there is not the slightest desire to discuss his "Fears".
      1. Salty 7 March 2020 18: 56 New
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        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Russian is one whose dad is Russian, and who considers himself Russian despite the fact that his (her) mother is a Martian

        Among Jews, nationality is considered by mother. So consider it: the pope is Russian, the mother is Jewish ... who is the result? And this is how to look ... wink
        1. The leader of the Redskins 7 March 2020 20: 18 New
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          And if "mother Russian and father lawyer?" One thinker just so once answered ...
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          Quote: SaltY

          Among Jews, nationality is considered by mother. So consider it: the pope is Russian, the mother is Jewish ... who is the result? And this is how to look ...

          I respect the customs of not only my people, but also the customs of other nations. Yes, according to Jewish customs, the child has a nationality of mother. But according to our laws, the child himself will determine, upon reaching a certain age, who he is by nationality. And do not bother in this regard.
          I heard from many - "Who am I by nationality, if in my veins both this and that, and even that blood is flowing?" I always ask - and who do you feel? That's all.
          I’ve heard the president of Ukraine say, “We are all Ukrainians.” You can’t say that. If he means nationality, because not only Ukrainians live in Ukraine. And if by “Ukrainians” he means citizenship, then by this he questions the existence of Ukrainian nationality. Correctly say - "We are all citizens of Ukraine."
          All this comes from ignorance of what a nation, nationality, citizenship, people are.
    8. Ros 56 7 March 2020 18: 48 New
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      Very bad news. And the worst thing is that the exclusion of the issue of real estate, essentially reduces all these changes in the Constitution to fiction. After all, the GDP proposed these two most important questions, about accounts and real estate over the hill, as the basis of their thesis on the morality and patriotism of people in power. Those. the darkest to say the least, sent. And if there is no reaction, then nothing good is to be expected. Then you can’t go anywhere on April 22, I personally don’t see any sense, the result will be as always.
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        Quote: Ros 56
        ... the basis of his thesis about morality and patriotism of people in power.

        Exactly this! About the morality of those who direct us or wish to do it! hi
      2. nickname7 8 March 2020 09: 24 New
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        After all, GDP proposed these two most important questions, about accounts and real estate over the hill, as the basis of their thesis on the morality and patriotism of people in power. Those. the darkest to say the least, sent.

        Not really, before that the issue of "immobility and families behind the cordon" was not in public discussion, it loomed in the backyards, but now for the first time, it has been put into public discussion, this is important in itself. The elite replied that they did not want to refuse abroad, now this is not conspiracy theology, but it is said in plain text.

        And if there is no reaction, then nothing good is to be expected.


        A negative result, also a result, the number of officials and the government did not refuse housing, the storage of money and property abroad, means that the officials and the government confessed - that they - colonial administration, now officially.
        1. Ros 56 8 March 2020 10: 42 New
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          Then let them not be offended, because it’s just that you won’t notice it under the rug. In my understanding, they themselves, without understanding, figuratively speaking, opened the Pandora’s box and it’s hard to say now what will come of it.
    9. knn54 7 March 2020 19: 02 New
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      Back in Brezhnev’s times, he learned that Israel has a law under which a Knesset deputy who has accounts abroad can be imprisoned.
      In the 90s, in which newspaper was a note about a flight to Switzerland (of course, at the expense of the state) of State Duma deputies who were flying to check their bank accounts.
      And what has changed?
    10. Paul Siebert 7 March 2020 19: 03 New
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      All for the "patriots" with foreign countries and villas behind the cordon?

      Nothing, Sylvester, everything has its time!
      The first step has been taken, officials can no longer have two passports ...
      In these circumstances, these "patriots" themselves will drive away to their villas on the Riviera.
      I am more furious with “mouthpieces of ideas” such as Solovyov and Brilev, who also have diverse citizenships in London and Lake Como, and in the evenings they beat themselves in the chest, suffering for the Russian people on VGTRK.
      It is high time they put these professional patriots on the “philosophical steamboat” with the coronavirus on board and put them on a long voyage at their own expense.
      Papuans brain powder. laughing
    11. tihonmarine 7 March 2020 20: 24 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Those. our "servants of the people" will live there, and earn here?

      Servants of the people will live in Russia, but families already live abroad, and the money "acquired by honest labor" is abroad. And what people are discussing, making noise, rejoicing, or not rejoicing, nobody cares. There was a question about faith, because our site was just “boiling”, and that officials and their real estate and deposits abroad enjoy the right of immunity, they did not notice this. Why ???
    12. Lelek 7 March 2020 22: 07 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Here is just one question: why did they reject the amendment to ban Russian officials from real estate abroad?

      hi
      Why, why - yes "out of the box" (joking). This reluctance was explained by Nikolai Platoshkin, though briefly and not completely, but what he said, he said.
    13. iouris 7 March 2020 23: 17 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      only one question

      You want to baffle us with your questions, and we will baffle you with your answers. Sailors in the gallery should have no questions. Changes to the Constitution, approved on the day of the 150th anniversary of V.I. Lenin, will make the Leninist Constitution.
      As for this academician, some expressed suspicions that, for example, under the guise of a fire in his institute, all newspapers published in the USA, which are especially valuable material for studying the real factual history of the United States, went to the United States. Probably not only that. If so, then this is a terrible crime against historical science, the state and the people. Of course, he should be scared.
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        If it is true...

        sure so
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    14. Xnumx vis 8 March 2020 09: 22 New
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      All for the "patriots" with foreign countries and villas behind the cordon? The road "Rodnin" and jumpers from Monaco?

      So then it is necessary for ordinary citizens of Russia to be prohibited from owning property abroad ... A cousin in Moldova, or Georgia, Ukraine died there, left the house-apartment an inheritance ... It’s impossible! Deny .. All citizens are equal. Or not equal ...
    15. tank64rus 8 March 2020 09: 37 New
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      We have the activity of NGOs with foreign financing prohibited by the Law, and are all these “figures” having property abroad not foreign agents — foreign agents and this is FACT. Previously, it was called KOPRADORSKAYA BOURGEOISE.
    16. Whalebone 8 March 2020 09: 51 New
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      As the great Russian poet wrote, "the best view of this city is if you sit in a bomber." Bees will not go against honey. Lily Vova of his slander alternate aerodrome, they also play a snuffbox.
    17. kiborg 8 March 2020 10: 26 New
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      that this would force parliamentarians and officials to abandon their property or resign.

      Why does a state person need property abroad? He must be a patriot and live in his own country. Otherwise, there is a suspicion that this "servant of the people" may not be the servant of his people. Or not even a servant at all ..
      And if for the sake of immigrations beyond the hill he leaves the state post, then why does the country need him so much ??
      Let it go, patriots come who want to work for the good of their homeland.
      But after all, people's deputies rejected this amendment, which means that everyone’s snout was down. Hence the conclusion: under the current government, Russia will NEVER flourish and its people will never live in abundance ...
      Everything else is an endless camera show for fools and television for fooling the population.
    18. To be or not to be 8 March 2020 10: 28 New
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      Archie is simple:
      1. Private property ..- the sacred cow of capitalism ..
      2. The export of capital is the foundation of the liberal system ... The liberal ideology was simply hidden in the Constitution by the right to “walk” all forms of ideology in Russia (The latest version of Article 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation states: 1. The ideological diversity is recognized in the Russian Federation. 2. No ideology can be established as state or mandatory

      Source: http://constitutionrf.ru/rzd-1/gl-1/st-13-krf) ... Under the liberal conservative center-right ideology in the ruling party of the Russian Federation "United Russia" ...
      On the topic of the article ..
      1 Every nation. People. People have the right to be and develop. In their unity, the power of the state .. and the guarantee of the preservation of small peoples and nationalities and their development
      2. The most numerous people of Russia -Russian -82% according to the latest ruling. Historically, it is a state-forming skeleton of the system on which other peoples of Russia are attached and develop. Its vitality is a guarantee of the existence of Russia. (Without the skeleton, the organism itself cannot exist) ..
      3. Replacing the concept of “Russian” with “Russian” is a game of a certain group of people (as well as the previously introduced concept of “Soviet people”) .. Breaking down the “skeleton” - the outcome of the “disease” is obvious ..
      A Russian can be any citizen of Russia of any nationality. Religion and views .. This is the constitutional right of a citizen of a country .....
      ......
    19. Yury Siritsky 8 March 2020 12: 59 New
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      Yes, let them leave their posts. It is high time to smoke them from there, otherwise the poor were swollen from inaction.
    20. Fedor Severny 8 March 2020 13: 13 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Why did they reject the amendment prohibiting Russian officials from owning property abroad?

      Because
      1) Not all state issues can be resolved at the state level, some important issues are resolved at the personal level, since there are explicit and implicit bans for government bodies (there is a tantrum about the so-called "interference"). Patriots with property and citizenship abroad are needed. (Example: Soros actions.)
      2) After 20-30 years have been allowed citizenship and real estate abroad,
      and many issues were not only “treacherously”, but also compelled to be resolved in “corrupt” ways,
      a quick rejection of established “corruption” schemes can be harmful.
      This is a personal opinion.
    21. smart ass 8 March 2020 14: 59 New
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      It sounds great. Just tell me where is the line between liberals and a free-thinking person who has his own point of view?
    22. Pravodel 8 March 2020 16: 48 New
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      What good guys are liberals, they always find a bunch of crap in any positive action, even if it's not there. And it does not depend on the status of a liberal: whether it’s a small one or a big person, a diarrhea of ​​the Internet or an academician, shit is always revealed. Academician Pivovarov’s article is valuable in that it was written not by an empty bourgeois painter, but by a pundit - a bright science, capable of bringing any rational, valuable idea to its opposite, to absurdity. Praise to Academician Pivovarov! It is necessary to cast a small statue or even a whole monument to the fighter for the liberal idea, for universal enlightenment. It is a pity that there are still forces in our people who do not agree with the liberals, who will immediately take down the statues or the monument from the pedestal and throw it into the trash of history.
      Is it known to Mr. Academician Pivovarov that the Russian people were the state, state-forming people of Russia, or is it covered by the secrets of history and the state of Russia, Russia was formed by the Martians, who once descended into the vastness of Russia, created the Russian state and sunk into oblivion. I apologize, I am mistaken, who wrote, gave a protective letter to Russia, sent a tsar to Russia and fled to America to free the Indians from tyranny of aliens from Jupiter.
      Dear academician Pivovarov, this is the greatness of Russia, that the state-forming people are the Russian people, they are not Poles, not Anglo-Saxons, not French, not Germans, namely Russians. And that is why Russia was able to absorb, include in its composition all the nations surrounding it, to ensure their development, not destruction, but development that creates the conditions, prerequisites for the establishment and construction of the Third Rome - the shining city of heaven. But this is still a long way off. It is known that the fourth Rome does not happen. Thanks to the Russian people, all the peoples that became part of Russia were not destroyed, not exterminated as the Indians or Chinese during the Opium Wars, but were given the opportunity to develop, become familiar with world culture. But this is, by the way.
      But I would like to ask, dear Mr. Academician Pivovarov, and the Germans fought against aliens in the 2nd World War II or against the Russians? Is it the aliens who retreated from Brest in tragic 41 or the Russians, backed away from the border, pouring blood on the ground and covering it with corpses blocking the Germans' path to Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev ?! This aliens drove the Germans from Moscow, defeated at Stalingrad, Kursk, hoisted the banner of Victory over Berlin ?! No, dear, they did it all, no, we Russians ... And it doesn’t matter at all that the Tatars, Mordovians, Chechens, Karelians, Yakuts, Dagestanis, Kazakhs, Georgians, etc., fought to defend their homeland. etc., they were all Russian, Russian in the Fatherland, in the land that they defended by the Nazis, from the Germans ... Even the French of the Normandy-Niemen regiment and those remaining French, were Russian, and blood was shed for Russia, for our Motherland, for our country.
      It would seem that talking about the 2nd Patriotic War, where everything is clear: the Germans fought against the Russians, let’s remember with you the 1st Patriotic War, and the war against Napoleon, in which, again, the French were now fighting against whom, well, certainly not against the Russians. Even the Georgian prince Bagration, seriously wounded by the French near Borodin, did not assume that he was fighting for the Russians. Of course, he fought for Australia or New Zealand. And, the army, retreating under the onslaught of Napoleon, led by Barclay de Tolly, of course, was the Scottish army, and consisted entirely of Scottish shepherds driving the sheep from west to east, hiding them from the French so that they would not eat them. No, dear Mr. Academician, to your great displeasure, Barclay de Tolly, being a Scotsman, was also a Russian, and fought for Russia, for the Russian Fatherland.
      Hence, dear academician, a simple conclusion that is accessible to you: the strength of Russia lies precisely in the fact that all the peoples entering Russia, accepted by Russia, transferred to Russia, entered Russia, migrated to Russia, remaining themselves: Tatars , Kalmyks, Kazakhs, Yakuts, Chechens, Dargins, Karelians, etc., etc., please list all the large and small peoples of Russia, it’s useful for you, you will know who the Russians are, they will certainly become Russian, and demonstrate evil to the enemy external and internal, standing up for the defense of the Fatherland in times of grave pain for him.
      But, as you know, to you an academician, it is the extreme conditions that confirm the basic rule. Hence the conclusion: if all the peoples living in Russia, with the defense of the Fatherland, become Russian, so you yourself can answer: if in Russia, if there is a state-forming people in Russia. If you can’t answer, then re-read all of the above. If reading it again does not clarify your mind and soul, then all of us Russians need to pray sinners for you so that the Lord will guide you on the right path, enlighten you, and finally you will be able to discern liberal children of obscurantism Divine let Russia and its people, the Russian people. God is with us, and we cannot be defeated by internal and external enemies.
    23. Badger 9 March 2020 16: 14 New
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      Only on the statement of "Vedomosti" which refers not to some source in the State Duma. And who is this source, is this not a fake? Amendments to the Constitution are not introduced by the State Duma, there is something missing on their website of this declared deviation.
    24. Rostislav Prokopenko 14 March 2020 09: 55 New
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      Something in Tinkoff “there” does not work very well. He walks around London with a bracelet and comes to the police three times a week. For them, our oligarchs still remain strangers who can and should be skinned like baboons wink .
  2. lucul 7 March 2020 17: 12 New
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    visiting the personal page of historian Yuri Pivovarov, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences. On March 4, he posted his own thoughts on this subject under the saying, “I'm scared.”

    And I immediately recall Gulliver, well, the case when he got to the midgets and they entangled him lying on the ground with thousands of threads ....
    So, Russia, like that Gulliver, as soon as the next thread falls, from the countless shackles that entangle him, the howling of the next midget is heard - “I'm scared” ....
  3. Anchonsha 7 March 2020 17: 16 New
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    This scientist has slipped into the negation of petty negation because, in his opinion, this is his ... creep (from the word is impossible) refers to what he proposed to introduce “state-forming people” in amendments Putin, who is not a liberalist. Although Putin himself calls himself a liberal in his actions and convictions. Consequently, the Brewers are false liberals.
    1. Malyuta 7 March 2020 18: 19 New
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      Quote: Anchonsha
      it is Putin who is not a liberalist. Although Putin himself calls himself a liberal in his actions and convictions. Consequently, the Brewers are false liberals.

      Mother of God! What was it? If I understand correctly, the liberals are divided into several subspecies, Putin librarian, but the liberal is good, but there are still bastards, these are bad liberals, that is, liberals.
      Here is a quote of the day and a ready-made amendment to the constitution !!!
      1. Svarog 7 March 2020 19: 24 New
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        If I understand correctly, the liberals are divided into several subspecies, Putin librarian, but the liberal is good, but there are still bastards, these are bad liberals, that is, liberals.

        Schizophrenia .. moreover, Putin is constantly repeating to them ..- I was liberal, liberal .. liberal .. and they are all one .. they say he’s not a liberal, he pretends to be wassat
      2. tihonmarine 7 March 2020 20: 28 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Here is a quote of the day and a ready-made amendment to the constitution!

        Your answer is correct, but not everyone approves of it. So there are a lot of liberals here too, which I don’t understand right or wrong, I’ll see through minas, I’ll say.
      3. Pushkar 7 March 2020 22: 13 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Putin Libcral

        This is not a crime, it is worse - a mistake! belay
      4. sniperino 8 March 2020 11: 57 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        If I understand correctly, then liberals are divided into several subspecies
        Congratulations! This is an important step towards distinguishing between concepts and mythologemes. The first distinguishes a general entity and establishes its connection with reality, allowing us to distinguish classes and types of implementation of this entity. And the myth comes from the personification of forces and phenomena that cause an emotional attitude (it does not matter whether these phenomena take part in the economic life of society), which, thanks to this personification, become morally criminal, that is, they acquire the qualities of “good” and “bad”. Among liberals there are not only those who interpret the idea of ​​liberating a person in the spirit of Western individualism as liberating an individual from the pressure of society and culture (“liberals”), but also those who do not think of the very possibility of a free individual in a non-free society (K. Marx) .
  4. Barmaleyka 7 March 2020 17: 27 New
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    BLOCKED THESE ...
    as soon as the word about Russians or Russians was hysterical right away, no one was driving tantrums when Russians were all spoiled for good, when the Russians were expelled, but as soon as the Russians said WE HAVE so all in hysterics, their heads hit the wall against the wall, the gozman screams like a cropped one, now this proHvesor.
    who determines Russianness, yes, determine it yourself, YOU WANT TO BE RUSSIAN; BE IT IT IS NOT THE Eye Color OR NOSE FORM
    Ugh for you all
    1. Barmaleyka 7 March 2020 18: 59 New
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      purely sporting interest, but those who put a minus can object and justify? !!!
      1. The leader of the Redskins 7 March 2020 20: 21 New
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        If you decide whether you are Russian or not, then why introduce a controversial national issue into the constitution?
        1. Barmaleyka 7 March 2020 21: 32 New
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          but what is the controversy ?!
          or Russians can’t have their own state, Stalin was a Russian Georgian, who prevents the gozman from being a Russian Jew, but wants to be a Jewish Jew, let him go to his homeland
          and not for any controversy Russia for Russians - Russian Yakuts, Russian Chechens, Russians, don’t understand who (like me, where it’s mixed with Khokhlov and Psheks and Great Russians)
          1. victor50 7 March 2020 23: 19 New
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            Quote: Barmaleyka
            or Russians can’t have their own state,

            Why mention a nation-forming nation? I am Russian, I have friends, Jews, Armenians (who speak Russian fluently, better than me, I studied and study from them), Tatars, Mari, Ukrainians, from Dagestan, Belarusians, and, probably, others. There were Chechens, Kazakhs, Uzbeks. Many of them have done more for Russia than me. I do not need any entry in any law, especially in the Constitution, which at least somehow hints at some kind of my chosenness, elitism, imaginary superiority over other nations (what did I personally deserve this for?). Even without this I get along well with them, even better without it. In the hymn we have a mention of who created this state. Beautiful words. Not enough of this?
            Moreover, it is difficult for me to feel this, but will not these words offend representatives of other peoples of Russia? I do not know. Just like a mention of God. But who is interested in my opinion?
            1. Barmaleyka 8 March 2020 09: 42 New
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              Why mention a nation-forming nation?

              that would not be asked stupid questions
              Tatarstan constitution 92 year
              This Constitution, expressing the will of the multinational people of the Republic of Tatarstan and Tatar people

              Why can everything except Russian
              1. victor50 8 March 2020 15: 06 New
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                Why can everything except Russian

                And one more thing: I remember well how the declaration of independence of the RSFSR ended. Including quietly and such constitutions to which you refer.
              2. victor50 9 March 2020 08: 49 New
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                that would not be asked stupid questions

                You demonstrated your mind lol And a way of thinking too. I do not need to be mentioned about the state-forming people in the Constitution or elsewhere. Out of this, I feel like a Russian and no one else in Russia, and anywhere. And proud of the achievements, and worry about the problems of the country. Do you need to feel like a man, so that your nationality is exalted in the Constitution? request
                1. Barmaleyka 9 March 2020 09: 43 New
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                  you would first understand what the difference is between a nation and a nationality, and only then get into the discussion
            2. Victor N 8 March 2020 09: 54 New
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              If you do not understand, then you should still think this thought. Friends are friends, but there are relatives too. There were ancestors - did they build a state in Russia? Or then we arrived - there is a difference.
          2. New Year day 7 March 2020 23: 35 New
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            Quote: Barmaleyka
            and not for any controversy Russia for Russians - Russian Yakuts, Russian Chechens, Russians, don’t understand who (like me, where it’s mixed with Khokhlov and Psheks and Great Russians)

    2. tihonmarine 7 March 2020 20: 30 New
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      Quote: Barmaleyka
      WANT TO BE RUSSIAN BE IT IT IS NOT THE NIGHT OF THE EYES AND NOT THE FORM OF THE NOSE

      Well, at least one person said smartly.
      1. The leader of the Redskins 7 March 2020 23: 28 New
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        He said not cleverly in the subject. Sounds more correct "you want to be a citizen of Russia.."
        And the amendment to the Constitution is already a wedge in the multinational public of our country.
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Sounds more correct "you want to be a citizen of Russia.."

          The logic of a migrant worker-adaptationist, in all its glory. fellow We have already seen "citizens", and here, including - moreover, those with whom no vrazhin is needed. And, by the way, the venal party of Israeli runners buzzing here very often has the same “citizenship”, along with several more. yes
        2. Barmaleyka 8 March 2020 07: 35 New
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          Well, yes, well, yes, and let's ban all Russian, and we’ll call the Russian language so that we don’t offend anyone, and even better, the thread is neutral, for example, SIMPLY LANGUAGE
        3. tihonmarine 8 March 2020 07: 59 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Sounds more correct "you want to be a citizen of Russia.."

          I’m not a citizen of Russia, but I was, is and will be Russian.
  5. alavrin 7 March 2020 17: 39 New
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    And they asked Academician Pivovarov for the INION fire that he headed?
    1. Basil50 7 March 2020 18: 35 New
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      Well, of course not. There they found who they managed to write off everything, and the loss of historical documents and the fire extinguishing system and much more, including documents for procurement for INION.
    2. CT-55_11-9009 9 March 2020 20: 09 New
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      And they asked Academician Pivovarov for the INION fire that he headed?

      Stop-stop-stop, is this not the institute in the south of Moscow whose storage they couldn’t put out for six months before it burned out by itself?
  6. hermit 7 March 2020 17: 46 New
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    The state of the Russian Federation was created by the degenerated part of the party nomenclature, coupled with the liberals and the new bourgeoisie. They are the state-forming people. Of course, their role should be noted in the constitution. You can even list by name.
    1. mat-vey 7 March 2020 17: 53 New
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      You can even list by name.

      Are you already hinting about columns?
      1. hermit 8 March 2020 11: 13 New
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        I am not bloodthirsty. :)
        1. mat-vey 8 March 2020 14: 46 New
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          And this has something to do with it - the boyars were recorded in the "columns", hence the pillar boyars.
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            Well, yes, and then these boyars - that ...
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              Not necessarily - you can do this yourself.
  7. Victor N 7 March 2020 17: 55 New
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    Very many do not know and do not remember their ancestors - there are many reasons. But if I am, here and now, then my ancestors always existed before, were present in different episodes of history. It was they who created and defended this state, for themselves and for us. They always loved their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, great ..- great ... And they were loved. And we do not have the right to deny them our love. We must keep and cherish the state created by their hard work. Whatever nationality we are, but in fact our ancestors also created this state, and did not die fighting the creators. And they believed in God.
    Those who are lucky, they know about their ancestors in history, this is even more binding. And there is no reason for fear.
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  9. eklmn 7 March 2020 18: 11 New
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    “On the one hand, it is necessary to consolidate the role of the Russian people in the creation of Russia ...”
    Please name the date, from which one could begin to consider the creation of Russia? And do not forget to name / describe the size of the territory! The size of the territory is very important, because when in ancient times Russia began to increase in size, this was not due to the “breeding of Russians because of the chic living conditions”. Those. expansion of the territory was at the expense of other peoples / nationalities. How to include / consolidate their role in the “creation of Russia”?
    The academician is scared for one simple reason.
    If in the phrase of the author of the article “For the first time we openly return to the national idea of ​​Russia” replace the word “Russia” with the word “Germany”,
    then we get Germany in 1929 with the birth of Aryan philosophy. The academician does not want to see Aryan Russia with all the consequences, that's all ...
    1. Dart2027 7 March 2020 18: 31 New
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      And do not forget to name / describe the size of the territory!

      All territories that were part of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR.
      Quote: eklmn
      replace the word “Russia” with the word “Germany”

      Replace with Israel.
      1. eklmn 7 March 2020 19: 08 New
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        “Replace with Israel.”
        The comparison is incorrect. What the Germans did with the "non-Aryans" of Germany is known. And the Arabs living in Israel have all the rights that the Jews have.
        1. Dart2027 7 March 2020 20: 16 New
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          What the Germans did with the “non-Aryans" of Germany is known. And the Arabs living in Israel have all the rights that the Jews

          Do you mean you think that the Russians will immediately go to burn everyone alive ... Somewhere I already heard it ...
          1. eklmn 7 March 2020 21: 28 New
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            “Do you mean that the Russians will immediately go to burn everyone alive ... Somewhere I already heard it ...”
            They will not burn, not immediately, but “create conditions” for those who can “not Russian” in the column. And I didn’t “hear” it, I lived with this “stigma” for many years ...
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              And I didn’t “hear” it, I lived with this “stigma” for many years ...

              And where? Something reminded me again.
    2. Basil50 7 March 2020 18: 40 New
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      Well, well, the academician will be pleased with your * ku * from history.
      It’s only that the academician himself does not have those ideas that you so carefully attribute to him.
      And then lying on the history of the development of RUSSIA is not worth it.
    3. Barmaleyka 7 March 2020 19: 00 New
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      Quote: eklmn
      Those. expansion of the territory was at the expense of other peoples / nationalities. How to include / consolidate their role in the “creation of Russia”?

      Yes, and the percentage of peoples can you name ?!
      1. Pushkar 7 March 2020 22: 21 New
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        Yes, and the percentage of peoples can you name ?!

        http://www.statdata.ru/nacionalnyj-sostav-rossii Почитайте, статья интересная.
    4. saigon 8 March 2020 07: 37 New
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      Germany is 29 years old and all theories in it are the answer to the defeat and robbery of this country by the victorious countries in WWI.
      That’s the whole answer to your fears.
  10. Doctor 7 March 2020 18: 20 New
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    In vain the Brewer is frightened. The current Constitution was read on the strength of 3% of the population of the Russian Federation, the future will be read no more. Not to mention being guided by it in practical activities.
    You can make 300 amendments there, you can make 3, you can enter the president’s life-long position, you can stipulate a schedule for school calls, anyway the majority will come and vote FOR.
    For the Russian people have long known:
    “The law that draws where it turned turned out there.”
  11. Ros 56 7 March 2020 18: 29 New
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    And he is scared because he is a liberalist. He had already been hooked on me for a long time, somehow he listened to his speeches, and then there was a fire in his library, a lot of things suffered. Natural fifth column.
  12. bear 7 March 2020 18: 37 New
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    I agree with the author
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      what exactly ?!
  13. gurzuf 7 March 2020 18: 43 New
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    In short - we will return the Stalinist Constitution! am
    1. Barmaleyka 7 March 2020 19: 01 New
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      In short - we will return the Stalinist Constitution!

      better than the NKVD
      1. Crystal of Truth 8 March 2020 00: 03 New
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        And shoot a couple of years at 300 thousand people
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          We will shoot 300 thousand people

          Yes, you can and more, for the good of the cause. Scary? wassat
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            And the Jews, right? In the stove
        2. Barmaleyka 8 March 2020 07: 32 New
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          why not XNUMX million ?!
          1. Crystal of Truth 8 March 2020 08: 04 New
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            Is this not enough? After all, you’ll then crawl and screech at your feet “Comrades, a monstrous mistake has occurred”
            1. Barmaleyka 8 March 2020 08: 11 New
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              you didn’t even understand what I asked, just as you didn’t understand kokuy nonsense wrote
              1. Crystal of Truth 8 March 2020 08: 19 New
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                Well, why ask stupid questions? 37-38, more than 600 thousand death sentences were passed .. That is the NKVD .. Are you few?
                1. Barmaleyka 8 March 2020 09: 23 New
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                  and how many were shot in the case?
                  1. Crystal of Truth 8 March 2020 11: 39 New
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                    Let me guess .. Yezhov probably in the case? Or not?
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                      and Tukhachevsky and Co. just offended?
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                      Quote: Crystal of Truth
                      Let me guess .. Yezhov probably in the case? Or not?

                      Yezhov - in the case. The berry is also the case. Tukhachevsky - back in the case. It’s a pity they didn’t get to Khrushchev.
                2. Dart2027 8 March 2020 10: 13 New
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                  37-38, more than 600 thousand death sentences were imposed.

                  Not 37-38, but since 1921, that is, for 30 years.
                  1. Crystal of Truth 8 March 2020 11: 41 New
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                    No, it’s not for exactly 2 years of these
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                      Quote: Crystal of Truth
                      No, it’s not for exactly 2 years of these

                      I don’t know why, but the picture did not load.

                      https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4121/14576209.9b/0_c744c_5ad4bb17_orig.jpg
                    2. Barmaleyka 8 March 2020 14: 00 New
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                      Quote: Crystal of Truth
                      No, it’s not for exactly 2 years of these
                      link to the document, "wiki" does not offer
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          And what in the Stalin Constitution was art. about executions? Or did I write about this?
  14. Sergey Averchenkov 7 March 2020 19: 00 New
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    Sorry, but if I am an atheist and do not accept religion (any, I consider religion to be atavism and brainwashing) ... will I violate the constitution? I’m generally silent about the church.
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      Sorry, but if I am an atheist and do not accept religion (any, I consider religion to be atavism and brainwashing) ... will I violate the constitution? I’m generally silent about the church.

      Good question. I, for one, am also an unbeliever.
  15. Radikal 7 March 2020 19: 08 New
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    And they asked Academician Pivovarov for the INION fire that he headed?

    ... and for the loss of unique documents, after which there was a fire. hi
  16. Mavrikiy 7 March 2020 20: 23 New
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    It’s enough to go to any discussion platform of liberals
    Well, a piggy squeal about the amendments and the future of the country is heard not only from the complete liberalist Svanidze, but also from the "new socialist" Platoshkin. request
    Why scary Academician Pivovarov
    When you can lose the feeder or have to answer for your words, it is always equally scary. (Pampers - they will let you breathe in the pretty ass of the academician) angry
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  18. Zheleznyak 7 March 2020 20: 36 New
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    Brewers under the fool mows. I am sure that he is a traitor, probably the Anglo-Saxons have compromising evidence on him. just ... incites hatred and hostility for it in time of war against the wall. And now it’s definitely the time of the military hybrid war. Academician hybrid shooting ...
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    Quote: Gardamir
    A house in a Belarusian village
    In Belarus, the "villain" Lukashenko rules, they may suspect that you are carrying oil in your pockets.

    A back to the oysters cheek ???
  20. Mavrikiy 7 March 2020 21: 28 New
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    Information for consideration, Brewers and its place.
    Pivovarov - Laureate of the Rokkanov Prize (2015)
    As a result of the fire in January 2015, the collection of books and documents of the Moscow Rokkanovsky Center perished. However, the work of the Center continues under new conditions. His asset is making efforts to begin collecting a new Roccan collection.
    .Removed from the leadership of the institution after a fire in January 2015, which destroyed a significant part of the funds of the INION library. Since April 30, 2015 is under investigation on charges of negligence.
    Roccan is the creator of a series of abstract models of sovereign states and national formations in Europe.
  21. Clueless 7 March 2020 21: 35 New
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    The main thing is that everyone is discussing the amendments, but no one is particularly discussing the voting process itself. Silent on television, silent in the media

  22. demo 7 March 2020 21: 41 New
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    No, the author is scared because for the first time he will be openly told about the social character of our state. For the first time, we are openly returning to the national idea of ​​Russia. To the nationality, if you will.


    Let me disagree with Mr. Staver.
    Nationality has never been and could not be a national idea.
    Otherwise, Russia, Russia would never begin to expand and absorb (on peaceful principles) foreigners and Gentiles.

    Society, people, nation - nothing, man - everything. Man is the measure of everything. So, it is necessary to "turn" into Europe or America. Each for himself, do you remember this "law of the jungle" in the mouth of the jackal Tabaki?
    Great idea. If we discard the centuries-old history of Russia. For the millennium, we had everything. Including "every man for himself."


    Speaking of the value of society and the scanty appreciation of man.
    There was such a period in the history of Russia - the reign of Peter 1. Where man is nothing, and the nation and state are everything.
    Well, how was it?
    So "not all the gold that glitters."

    “Immediately questions: who will receive the right to enter the“ state-forming ”people? Who will prove their Russian identity? And why, in fact, the constitutional theme of the equal rights of all citizens is replaced by the legally irrelevant theme of the equal rights of the "state-forming" people with other peoples?

    Agree, well-posed questions that many people ask themselves, regardless of their political views. They ask simply because it’s scary to conceal any sin.

    Entering (reckoning) in one or another ethnos does not give any additional preferences to the bearer of this ethnos. In addition to a sense of ownership.
    The question is posed not correctly, but provocatively.

    Show me a person who with 100 percent certainty will tell what his nationality is
    blood. Even in a forgotten mountain village or on a Siberian settlement, not to mention the Russian steppes,
    there was always a daredevil who brought a wife from another nation to his house.


    A person, as a rule, considers himself to be a nationality (ethnic group) in which language his mother sings a lullaby.
    The rest is from the Evil One.

    “And I would also like to ask: is a“ state-forming ”people the same people that once created the Russian state? Or do we mean today's ethnic Russians, on whom the state mainly relies? That is, we are talking about the past or the present?
    What were other “equal peoples” busy with? Participated in the "formation of the state", interfered with this process, remained outside observers? And is there any historical and legal gradation of “equal peoples”? "Fellow travelers", historically close, historically alien, historically hostile? Or are all the “non-state-forming” peoples in the same position, in the same category? ”


    I honestly admit that the academician hit very nicely on the "national issue" in Russia. Sneakily threw up the idea that in the process of joining Russia, to Russia, in any nation there were those who did not agree with this. Those who had to fight. Everything is in the style of liberals. So what if the majority of the people decided to become part of Russia? But there was a man, even many “people” who were against it!

    A state-forming nation is one whose ethnicity lies in the process of the emergence and development of the state. The remaining nations are joined. Voluntarily-involuntarily, voluntarily-forcibly - it does not matter.
    Life and the state breaks anyone - both man and nation, through the knee.
    And today it doesn’t matter how Chechens or Crimean Tatars relate to the Russians and the rest. The important thing is that they do not take any hostile actions.
    Lovely everyone can’t be.

    “And how can one distinguish a representative of a“ state-forming ”people from the rest? Maybe some obligatory patches on clothes? Is there any clarity here? Already started to solve this important problem? I have a proposal - a patch on which it says: "The representative of an equal non-state-forming people." This is necessary to do first of all in large cities, where various ethnic groups live. ”

    Mr. Brewer cannot imagine anything other than a stripe (i.e., for external control of an ethnic group).
    Those. “stars of David” again seem to him?
    Strange academician.
    Why should a person position himself? To protest or to determine ownership?
    You can be proud and silently, without fanfare and bravura marches!

    "It is not allowed to diminish the feat of the people in the defense of the Fatherland." The right and duty of the state to “protect historical truth” is established. What is it? About what? - “The feat of the people in the defense of the Fatherland”? When, in what era? Or always? - Then the history of Russia comes down to a “feat”. If it was said about the Patriotic War, then it is clear. Maybe in general this is the main feat of our people. And what is “historical truth”? Who formulated it? What is she doing? “It’s somehow not legally foggy, generally.”


    Oddly enough, (and for the academician it is generally regrettable) - the historical truth, with the completion of the event, is always the same.
    And no - maybe if ....
    There is historical truth - fascist Germany attacked the USSR.
    The issue of reasons is not considered.
    There is historical truth - the Red Banner was planted by Yegorov and Kantaria on the Reichstag building.
    And what date, what kind of banner and other questions - it does not matter.

    At all times and in all ages, both the heroism of individuals and mass heroism were present. And here it’s fitting to talk about the feat of the people in the defense of the fatherland.
    But was cowardice also a betrayal?
    And here it is time to shame cast aside and begin to call a spade a spade.

    And in conclusion.
    I read your comments and articles with great pleasure, Mr. Staver.
    And biting words, and well-balanced sentences, and preserved and not blurred canvas - your forte.
    But today you are in a good mood.
    Why?

    And more.
    Sometimes, such as academician Pivovarov, one must answer neither in the style of academic writing, but with a direct denture.
    Then it comes faster and is remembered for a long time.
    1. Sasha_5 7 March 2020 22: 18 New
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      An interesting passage about the truth you gave. For example, whether Yegorov and Kantaria were the first to put up the banner of victory over the Reichstag, the situation with 28 Panfilov’s, etc. I think the list goes on, what is “truth” in your understanding. Sorry, but anyone who cares about the truth - he will always be glad to hear another position, only in this way they come to the truth. Even the absolute truth given out of context can be essentially a lie. For example, let man A shoot man B - 100% true and it turns out A villain. And if you are not told that B attacked himself and it was self-defense, then such a truth changes the essence of the action by 100%. Further there is an interpretation of any event since the truth itself is dry. As a result, do not flatter yourself - you are not for the historical truth, you are for an officially approved ideology.
      1. demo 8 March 2020 06: 56 New
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        As a result, do not flatter yourself - you are not for the historical truth, you are for an officially approved ideology.
        In essence, you are right.
        But flattery for me is not about me.
        I feel so comfortable.
        To decide whether guilty or not guilty is a matter of court: criminal or historical.
        I am interested in 100% confirmed facts.
        Everything else is liberalism. In its worst form.
        It makes him sick.
        1. Campanella 8 March 2020 09: 51 New
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          I would equate liberalism to sophisticated lies and an attempt to interfere with a sober look at things.
          1. Sasha_5 9 March 2020 00: 40 New
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            I would advise you to go and read the TSB first, chtoli before inserting liberalism through the word, by the way and inappropriately. And your colleague demo too.
            1. Campanella 9 March 2020 01: 02 New
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              Have you met him (liberalism) somewhere? Or only in TSB read about him?
              I like socialism and communism more.
              Frankly speaking, liberalism is absolutely not a vital system; in its pure form it simply does not exist.
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                Well, judging by the fact that human rights (as a pillar of liberalism) are universally recognized almost universally and are respected in most countries of the world, and in the most prosperous part they are an integral part of social structure, perhaps you should open your eyes before talking about non-viability liberalism, as well as exposing communism and socialism as a viable alternative. When you present the criteria for the purity of alternatives to liberalism, then it will be possible to discuss in more detail.
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                  and in the most prosperous part of it

                  But how is well-being determined?
                2. Campanella 9 March 2020 10: 27 New
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                  Pillar is strongly said. You can imagine anything, even fiction. The speculative postulates of man do not work in nature and even more so cannot be a pillar! Your belief in wording is ridiculous, and property is not sacred, if only because it can easily change hands as a result of wars.
                  So when you can imagine the world without the notorious liberalism, we’ll talk. As for socialism and communism, this is not a contrast, but more substantial theories, which include the concept of property and freedoms.
        2. Sasha_5 9 March 2020 00: 55 New
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          And what, you are interested in the facts how many Russian troops participated in the conflict in the Donbass? Or for you everything that is not confirmed by a certificate from the Kremlin with the official seal does not exist? You do not need confirmed facts, such as the undeniable fact that the Soviet Union signed the Molotov Ribentrop Pact with Nazi Germany with the annex on the division of Poland. This is a feature of today's pseudo-patriots - the complete disregard for inconvenient facts, the rejection of moral principles, the distortion of historical contexts to please ideological attitudes.
          PS so link facts and liberalism is recommended not when you want to shine with your mind, but to invent an oxymoron.
          1. Barmaleyka 9 March 2020 07: 38 New
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            Quote: Sasha_5
            such as the undeniable fact that the Soviet Union signed the Molotov Ribentrop Pact

            and someone denies this fact ?!
            Quote: Sasha_5
            complete disregard for inconvenient facts, rejection of moral principles, distortion of historical contexts to please ideological attitudes.

            But can it be specifically what moral principles are rejected, what historical contexts are distorted and what inconvenient facts are ignored ?!
      2. businessv 8 March 2020 11: 20 New
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        Quote: Sasha_5
        An interesting passage about the truth you gave. For example, whether Yegorov and Kantaria were the first to put up the banner of victory over the Reichstag, the situation with 28 Panfilov’s, etc.

        I think, colleague, you decided to do a little demagogy, replacing the concepts of truth and truth! Everyone has their own truth, only one truth. From your example, the truth is that there is one corpse and one alive. What conclusions do you think the court will make if you do not conduct an investigation and do not reach the truth - which of them is guilty? The investigation will be carried out by living people, some of them are lazy, some are not, and the fate of the defendant depends on them. And so it is in everything. Your opponent has chosen to criticize the article; it is easier than writing the article itself, right? But I, like him, are pissed off by the liberal approach to everything! This approach justifies any crimes and any actions so as not to disturb internal peace and not to take a steam bath for any reason, even about the life and death of people, if only these people were not familiar to you. And such an attitude to everything. And liberals reproduce themselves - look, how many bureaucrats have become in comparison with the Union! Now the facts: in Sevastopol, with the independence, there were 800 bureaucrats, now 2450! Your conclusion?
    2. Campanella 8 March 2020 09: 59 New
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      The historical truth consists in the main thing - that the current government has betrayed everything that Soviet people perished for. Putin is not a Soviet person and uses the blessed memory of those killed in the Second World War for his selfish purposes; he sold ideas for a smartphone and Patek Philippe and is insignificant as a state and people's politician. In fact, it was the attitude of the West towards his person that forced him to somehow restore the army. Well, the Ministry of Internal Affairs is clear to whom he is preparing.
  23. Campanella 7 March 2020 21: 51 New
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    I do not like Pivovarov, but I can’t approve of the corps de ballet with the Constitution either. The president is pushing bullshit to the people, explaining this somehow very ornately. For me, if he really cared about the people and the country, then much of what he is trying to prescribe in the Constitution would easily have done so.
    1. Crystal of Truth 8 March 2020 00: 06 New
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      Golden words
  24. Campanella 7 March 2020 22: 34 New
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    The author bears a blizzard: "For the first time, we are openly returning to the national idea of ​​Russia. To the nationality, if you will."
    What we are rapidly returning to is serfdom under the leadership of the president.
    Empty declarations are worthless. But in reality, the people can not do anything even though he is the bearer of power.
    There are no more than three to assemble, there is no referendum, no trade unions ... but a bunch of pocket parties. In general, not a society, but a corporate party of the elite.
    1. edasko 7 March 2020 23: 27 New
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      The author speaks of a single, united state. In history, it was already when people were told that we are all for a common goal, even if there are rich and poor among us, but we are one family. It was in the 20th century in Italy, Germany. When fascism came to power. Fashio - a bunch, a union. Only the rich will never give up their rights and means. The poor will go to die for their interests. Well, the so-called. middle class too. And by the way, faith in God is necessary. Germans everywhere wrote like that - "God is with us." The church is very good at brainwashing. Traditions, of course, must be observed, but we are already sliding into the Middle Ages. Again, clergy influence our lives. Here they will write in the constitution of some god there, and then it will be necessary to maintain it. Church tithes will be forced to pay along with VAT.
      1. Dart2027 8 March 2020 06: 24 New
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        Germans everywhere wrote like that - "God is with us."

        And they were socialists (national socialist German workers' party). We will write all the socialists as criminals?
        1. edasko 8 March 2020 12: 42 New
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          Nonsense! I wrote that everything together gives a certain result. By your logic, there was a Reichstag in Nazi Germany. So, all countries where there is a parliament can be called criminal?
          1. Dart2027 8 March 2020 13: 19 New
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            Quote: edasko
            Nonsense! I wrote that everything together gives a certain result.

            You wrote that
            Quote: edasko
            In history, it was already when people were told that we are all for a common goal, even if there are rich and poor among us, but we are one family.

            и
            Quote: edasko
            Germans everywhere wrote like that - "God is with us."
            They also wrote that they are socialists. And yes, they also had a parliament.
    2. Victor N 8 March 2020 10: 17 New
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      Sorry, you have the opportunity to speak out, without restrictions. There is an opportunity to send your proposals, appeal to the deputies, in the party ... But how else? Not invented ....
      1. Campanella 8 March 2020 12: 39 New
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        Speak out ??? But it’s nothing that the people are the bearers of power, and he can turn with a proposal.
        And then Edro does not take into account the opinion of the people a priori. We can only approve the authorities of the authorities with “packages” and no more!
  25. victor50 7 March 2020 22: 48 New
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    It is written beautifully. The main argument of the article is who the liberals do not agree with its provisions! lol Very convincing argument. Try to object - you are a liberal "heap-bearing"! request Cool! It's disgusting to read!
  26. seregarodionov 7 March 2020 22: 57 New
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    RF: Russian (not the same one) everyone was sure of that before the amendments. Now the question is from whom should the Russian language be protected in the territory of the Russian state? From Chechens bought after 2 wars, from Russians in the Donbas sold to Ukraine for Crimea _our?
  27. faterdom 7 March 2020 23: 06 New
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    Quote: domokl
    Quote: Silvestr
    it’s clear that real estate will be copied to grandparents,

    Here is the answer to your first question. But seriously, the question you posed is not correct. A person has the right to buy any property anywhere. The question should be posed differently. Where did the money come from, Zin? If you prove the law, then there will be no questions. And the inheritance from her grandmother who died in a Bose in the Siberian taiga, which left millions found in Kolchak’s times ...

    For some reason, when the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and other law enforcement agencies imposed the same exact ban — this did not offend anyone in the State Duma or the government ... Grandmothers were also banned from the inheritance.
    Are there double standards? Employees can be double punished (contrary to legal norms), and the ban on traveling abroad, and to shorten the pension by a factor, and the property accounts to be prohibited abroad, and to withdraw the apartment-car not explained by income to the treasury ...
    And no one is scandalous, they sold their entire inheritance or left the service, or risk flying in sooner or later.
    But maybe they can replace deputies in both houses? How many extra questions will be removed right away ...
    It seems to me an interesting thought, I served thirty years - here’s a chair with buttons for you, a microphone - think, decide, condemn laws from the height of experience and knowledge of life, not only on the Cote d'Azur or in Courchevel, but also in Mukhos ...
    1. businessv 8 March 2020 10: 57 New
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      But maybe they can replace deputies in both houses? How many extra questions will be removed right away ...

      The idea is really interesting! There will be less words, more deeds, but we have already tried to build military communism. Although, why the amendments do not provide for the salaries of parliamentarians? Since the size of pensions has already been voiced, it can also voice the size of the salary of civil servants - so that no more than 10 living wages, for example. So that the incentive was to please the Motherland, and not for the country into which the family was taken.
  28. faterdom 7 March 2020 23: 10 New
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    Pivovarov, is it like an academician who burned one of the largest libraries in the country and came out of the water dry?
    So he likes not to answer for anything, and this is not treated. I even believe that he is scared - I would have forced him to answer for the loss of national wealth. So that he can communicate with his will only in small small letters for 100 letters of the text.
  29. 123456789 7 March 2020 23: 22 New
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    But there is God's judgment, confidants of debauchery! There is a formidable court: he is waiting; He is not accessible to the ring of gold, And he knows thoughts and deeds in advance. Then in vain you will resort to slander: It will not help you again, And you will not wash away all the black blood of the Poet with righteous blood!
    M. Yu. Lermontov. The death of the poet ("The poet died!)
  30. businessv 7 March 2020 23: 54 New
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    We are strong in our faith, our friendship, our diversity, our courage. We are different, but we are Russian ... Russians of different nationalities.
    Thank you, Alexander, a good article! But when we came to Europe in the early XNUMXs and said that they were from Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Ukraine, etc., we were told, “Ah, Russians!” So everything is true, to tell the truth about the state-forming people and to fix it in the Constitution is not a crime, although it is unusual to hear in view of our Soviet upbringing.
    1. Campanella 8 March 2020 09: 48 New
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      Do you really not understand that this is another blah, blah, blah in defense of the lawlessness and social discord that the existing government is building. Pivovarov is used as an enemy to consolidate society against liberals. I do not like liberals as such, Putin himself declared that he is a liberal! But these are all words behind which the deep essence is hidden. And if you look carefully, behind the verbal tinsel there is only a desire for power and money.
      Putin speaks of a poor, impoverished population, a welfare state, but does absolutely nothing for the country to become one. The top incomes are uncontrolled, the government is anti-people in its legislative essence. And Putin curtsies by writing a minimum in the Constitution, which absolutely does not guarantee anything. But at the same time, without paying off the debts of ordinary customers, Sberbank takes and sells to the state for several trillion rubles in the interests of its shareholders at the expense of the NWF. And the people are throwing. Well, who is he after that? And his phrase to the people? You chose capitalism! I did not choose capitalism and no one chose! Hypocrites and a crook!
      1. businessv 8 March 2020 10: 44 New
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        But at the same time, without paying off the debts of ordinary customers, Sberbank takes and sells to the state for several trillion rubles in the interests of its shareholders at the expense of the NWF.

        Colleague, you are very emotional, which is understandable, but a little did not understand the essence of this operation. Sberbank is 52% owned by the state. The fact that the share of the Central Bank was acquired through the NWF is a simple transfer of money from one pocket to another, except that now the profit from Sberbank will go directly to the state budget. This will allow you to use this money without leaving part of it in the Central Bank, a situation with which, I hope, you know. This will not affect “ordinary customers” because nothing changes for them, nor for bank employees, nor for other persons. Any citizen can become a shareholder of Sberbank, it's simple. On issues of social hatred, no amendments to the Constitution are needed, colleague! It’s enough to pass laws on capital withholding tax, on the use of mineral resources, on progressive taxation, on related enterprises for a long time to transfer, but who will give their money voluntarily ?! This requires political will, a change of course for social reform. For starters, it would not hurt to remove edrosov from the feeder in 2021, this will be half the battle, and then it will be visible.
        1. Campanella 8 March 2020 12: 49 New
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          As far as I know, 800 billion goes to the Central Bank.
          And the NWF was not created to buy banks. And besides, you don’t understand the main thing, from this holiday personalities are mostly fed, those who supposedly represent the state. If the bank was a unitary enterprise, I would agree with you.
          1. businessv 8 March 2020 16: 15 New
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            As far as I know, 800 billion goes to the Central Bank.
            And the NWF was not created to buy banks.

            This amount does not “leave” the Central Bank, it is a payment for the shares of Sberbank, a colleague! As I said, this is a simple transfer of money from pocket to pocket. This money will come from the Central Bank to the budget minus taxes, bonus employees of the Central Bank and interest to the Central Bank itself. But now the Central Bank will not receive income from Sberbank, its entire share will go directly to the budget (or to the NWF - I do not know). The NWF was not created for the purchase of banks, but after reaching the amount of 7% of the budget, it generated surplus funds that had to be invested somewhere. The fantasies of our Cabinet were only enough for such a feint!
            And besides, you don’t understand the main thing, from this holiday personalities are mostly fed, those who supposedly represent the state.
            I understand perfectly well, my colleague, how the economy works, but there is no way to help with conversations, you need to change the System! I will not be original and I repeat, it is necessary to start small - the election of 2021, to drive away edrosov from the feeder for a start.
            1. Campanella 8 March 2020 17: 08 New
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              Behind the words, our power can hide the elephant. A few things are not clear to me.
              1. Sberbank never gave me my contribution, as well as many others.
              2. The state carried out all sorts of manipulations with Sberbank and the shareholders received their dividends, we never saw our money.
              3. The Central Bank, as I understand it, did not pay a spear for Sberbank and received it for free, so that it does not owe interest or anything else; moreover, it owes to the state.
              4. A simple shifting can be done without fake deals.
              5. I believe that a conversation is needed to understand the situation and transparency of a country so necessary.
              6. Again, I do not want the money of the NWF to not stick to the hands of crooks.
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                6. Again, I do not want the money of the NWF to stick to the hands of crooks

                Take away one “no”, any one will get better.
                1. Campanella 8 March 2020 18: 39 New
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                  I can’t remove it anymore)))
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                The Central Bank, as I understand it, did not pay a spear for Sberbank and received it for free, so that it does not owe interest or anything else, and it owes more to the state.

                The Central Bank was the founder of Sberbank, it was in the Central Bank that the indicated amount of the fund was transferred. As for citizens' deposits in Sberbank, I am not aware of the reason for delays in payments, but Gref said that delays in regional branches are possible, but payments are usually made on time. Unfortunately, neither you nor I can control the transfer of funds to the accounts, but I do not think that they will steal so brazenly - this is an easily controlled part of the budget, in which frauds are the least likely to occur.
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                  I'm not talking about delays, but about the old Soviet contribution that Sberbank has reset to me.
                  The Central Bank could not be the founder of an existing Sberbank. If only the crisis manager in the 90th.
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                    I'm not talking about delays, but about the old Soviet contribution that Sberbank has reset to me.

                    Well, you give, colleague! smile Blame the new structure for non-payment of old debts. Debts on deposits should be paid by the state that reset them. To do this, you first need to adopt the relevant law, index the deposits, which will be paid and only then make payments. No need to put all the questions together. Sberbank is not and has never been the legal successor of the Savings Banks of the Union and the State Bank of the USSR!
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                      Now who makes the decision? It’s also a state, but Sberbank also corporatized it. So it doesn’t matter who the copyright holder is, the state has taken upon itself the debts of the USSR, the rest is verbal husk.
  31. WayKheThuo 8 March 2020 00: 29 New
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    Personally, I am very “happy” with the adoption of amendments to the Constitution in one package. This is a clear setup, in the sense that in the grief of amendments the “zest” is “buried” for the sake of which it all began, and that’s normal - the Constitution is not written for us, and the responsibility for it will be blamed on us, for a referendum.
    Personally, I have a few questions. For example, is it necessary to read all these proposed amendments? I will answer for myself this way - no need. For the Constitution is just a paper. Today she is alone, tomorrow is another.
    Well, we define the role of the Russian people as state-forming. So what? Does it somehow help in real life? Increase your pension? Will it help people in their 30s, 40s, 50s or 60s to really change their lives, find and enter new areas of activity? No will not help. A strong economy, which would support a citizen of his country in a difficult time for him, could.
    Or this endless talk about denigrating the role of our Victory and about accusing the USSR of unleashing the Second World War. Yes, at least where do you put prohibitive paragraphs on this topic. At least in the Constitution, at least beat yourself! If we cannot punish a specific country and specific people for defiling the monuments of our soldiers, they will wipe our feet about us. And about our memory too. But it would be that they had desecrated a monument to our wars somewhere - if you had, infection, sanctions in the form of disrupting a very specific contract for a very real amount, and in addition it would be really possible to find defilers (these are living people) and fill their faces. Just take it and fill it up - let our valiant FSB officers at least deal with this matter instead of storing tons of rubles in apartments. Is an article in the Constitution necessary for this? No, it’s not necessary, you just need to value the memory of your ancestors above the dough and not be afraid openly, from all international stands to declare that we are ready to defend our historical memory by any means, up to physical violence.
    Any law, and the Constitution is not an exception, this is not a certain unshakable rule, knocked out by the gods on the tablets of stone, and the guide to action in a specific situation and in a particular socio-economic situation and it (the Constitution, of course) can and should be periodically clarified.
    Only this must be done without pathos, in the working order and without nationwide voting, because, as practice shows, the sense of these votes is with Gulkin’s nose. Remember how they voted for the USSR? Popularly! Where is this your USSR now? That's the same.
    And with the Constitution it will be the same. If it meets the requirements of the time at least 50%, that’s good, then we’ll wait and if not, well, the wave of the Russian rebellion will simply dispel mediocre power into the bloody dust, and no Constitution will help here.
    I think so.
  32. Mihail55 8 March 2020 05: 20 New
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    Thanks to the author for the article! BUT ... the point is not the value of the amendments to the Basic Law, but their huge number and the speed of adoption thereof. To accept or not to accept everything as a common cheek, as it’s not very ...
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      And most importantly, if it were not for the president, the people would not have understood that his happy future is buried in the amendments
      The constitution, of course, is worth changing or it’s better to even write a new one. But in the 80s-90s politicians calmly spat on the Soviet Constitution and the state fell.
  33. Vitaly Lyalin 8 March 2020 06: 14 New
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    I do not know how. But the constitution needs an article protecting Russians. Excluding any possibility of discrimination. And as a result of extinction. As it happens for a long time. And of course, this should be done without detracting from the dignity of other nations.
  34. oracul 8 March 2020 06: 54 New
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    Woe to science, with such academics for whom the truth lies in their personal interest and desire, covered by a fleur of pseudo-scientific casuistry, and the majority opinion is so, related obstacles. Sometimes you think about the origins of surnames and strange thoughts arise.
  35. nikvic46 8 March 2020 07: 28 New
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    Not everything is so simple. Someone who wants to show even Stalin a market man. Although he said that one must be devoted to the working class, but not a separate individual. Not only liberals look at the course of the discussion. Our political scientist S. Mikheev is concerned with the words “redo Russia. "And at the end of his speech, he said that people would appear unnecessary to the state. "There in his party, far from the people, fantastic thoughts appear." "Children belong to the state." A very useful article. But what has been done for children at the present time? Starting from children's clinics and ending with the quality of baby food, absolutely nothing.
  36. George Petrov 8 March 2020 08: 27 New
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    I OFFER to introduce in the preamble of the Constitution of the Russian Federation the definition of Russia as the FAMILY of peoples, where Russian is the language within family communication.
    Russia is not a territory and a state, but a system of relations based on fraternal love, stretched into eternity.
    Love for Russia (patriotism) is the essence of understanding the role that it plays in God's plans to create His image and likeness - a person who is aware of the purpose and meaning of life.
    Russian man is primarily a phenomenon of PERSONAL culture, the foundation of which is the awareness of LIFE as a way of being of Truth = God is Love.
    Russian self-consciousness is opposed to animal life, the meaning of which is selfish interests and is geared towards the consumption of material "goods."
    Brothers and sisters (Russian people) historically realize their existence by searching for Truth, God and Life in themselves, understanding the value of the family as the basis of the state, helping them in the fair arrangement of social life.
    The Soul becomes truly human when in the Light the uncreated Holy Spirit unites with the Word of God - Truth = God is Love as the source of his own life.
    Being STILL clad in “leather robes” a person ALREADY acquires the Kingdom of God (the Power of Truth) in himself, realizes his own immortality both as a result of RESIDENCE (life) in God (His Word) and his own RESPONSIBILITY for the “purity” of his soul.
    Human life is an approach to God - CHANGE of one’s own ATTITUDE to the world and people, following the example of the Incarnation, the Cross and the Resurrection of the Love of God - Christ Jesus.
    Saves a man who lives in Christ, the Soul, God lives, but not the skin (leather robes). The Word of God is Bread from Heaven, Food for the soul, not for the body. The bestial kingdom flesh does NOT inherit.
    The preaching of salvation as a “deification” of the flesh and not of the soul is a trick of the crafty enemy of the human race, an impotent attempt to resist God's providence for man as a son — his own way of thinking and likeness of relations, as a “reflection” of divine glory.
    Having lost his animal soul for the LIFE of the Word of God - Truth = God is Love in himself, Born in eternal LIFE ... finds a truly human soul ... The Kingdom of God in itself.
    Holy Russia, lead us to God - the idea of ​​community life.
    Cesarean - God - the idea of ​​nation-building.
  37. Levin 8 March 2020 08: 58 New
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    smile smile Why should we be worried about the fears of this old line? Nothing more to discuss?
  38. tank64rus 8 March 2020 09: 20 New
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    And I think why we have science and education to put it mildly .... And if the main question that angered the people is the rejection of the amendment about the property of officials and deputies abroad. Those who have it, he can no longer be in power, it is clear to everyone except those to whom this applies. These are foreign agents in power and now they have shown their true face.
  39. Raymym bek 8 March 2020 09: 35 New
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    I can imagine what “howl” will rise in the Russian media and social networks if such amendments are proposed to the Constitution of the Republic of Kazakhstan. Double standards: in Russia, Russians have the right to national revival, and more: even those Russians who were born and lived all their lives in the Republic of Kazakhstan, Ukraine or the Baltic states should be reborn in Russian, pushing the history, culture and traditions of the indigenous people into the background. But at the same time, other CIS countries should be silent and look back at their "mother Russia", not stutter about national self-identification, because this is fraught with a second Crimea, Donbass, etc.
    I write real things, I’m not “Natsik”, but this approach of the Russian brothers is really annoying. And what are you better after this s, Maydaunov and other chauvinists?
  40. grandfather_Kostya 8 March 2020 10: 01 New
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    Is this the same Brewers who set up the fire in the INION library? And is he still free?
  41. Aleks2000 8 March 2020 10: 03 New
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    Das ... The people will live according to the new constitution. And the elite is still with foreign real estate ...
    And which nelya will criticize ...
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  43. U-58 8 March 2020 10: 37 New
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    Everything that the author wrote, as well as what the Pivovarov wrote, are camouflage smoke, a veil.
    The outgoing leader does not want to leave.
    Started a permutation, which he wants to put on the legal form.
    But it will catch everyone's eye!
    And since the era of this leader ends very pessimistically, if not sadly or even tragically (for us, ordinary people who have not expected a happy life), the guarantor wants to guarantee his Wishlist by masking it with numerous, often obscure additions to the Constitution.
    It was succeeded to create a background.
    Everyone is discussing the "smoke screen", but not the point.
    TV and other media outlets are working hard, preparing the next popular approval.
    That is why it should be scary.
    It is terrible that the people act as extras in this performance, depicting steps behind the stage. However, steps in the direction necessary for the authorities.
    Is this normal from the point of view of not common sense (those holding power), but from the point of view of history, the fate of the country and people?
  44. antchar 8 March 2020 10: 45 New
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    What can I say about Pivovarov. This is our Herostratus. After a fire in his library, he would go to a monastery or drown. And from him, "like water from a goose."
  45. polar fox 8 March 2020 10: 52 New
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    Show me a man who with 100 percent certainty will tell what his nationality is by blood.
    if the author is Ivan, who does not remember kinship, then there are no questions. But to treat about “daredevils” - you don’t need to spread about your non-travel ancestors.
  46. fsps 8 March 2020 11: 51 New
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    Everything is simple for me: Russian is the one who serves Russia.
    1. Snail N9 8 March 2020 12: 56 New
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      I read the thread of the "discussion" and I wonder how more than 300 are offered! (more than 300! Karl!) “amendments to the Constitution”, and here only “one” is discussed - “mentioning Russian as a state-forming ...” ... I just want to say - are you, here, everything’s completely “that” ? Is this really what you are all here without and you cannot live? What is, indeed, the most important of the forthcoming amendments to the Constitution? Like everything else (well, except there - about "family and gays") is this all that important? fool
  47. Doctor 8 March 2020 12: 11 New
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    If the Brewers are scared, then everything is fine, then everything is done correctly.
  48. helilelik 8 March 2020 12: 34 New
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    Just as everything that Putin offers is bad for the liberals, so for the author of the article, liberals carry garbage, well, because they are liberals. This is generally the only counterargument.
    1. fider 8 March 2020 13: 31 New
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      helilelik (Alexey)
      Wikipedia: "Liberalism (from lat. Liberalis - free) is a philosophical and sociopolitical movement proclaiming the inviolability of human rights and personal freedoms [1]" And what is that bad?
      1. fsps 8 March 2020 16: 05 New
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        Someone who has rights, but does not have duties, is a ready-made criminal; everything is allowed to him. But they are silent about their duties, and this is their biggest and most dangerous lie.
      2. Campanella 8 March 2020 19: 10 New
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        But is socialism and communism bad?
  49. Goldmitro 8 March 2020 12: 44 New
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    What I did, visiting the personal page of the historian Yuri Pivovarov, academician of the RAS. On March 4, he posted his own thoughts on this subject under the saying, “I'm scared.”

    Maybe this historian - scientist from ........... baked it’s scary that no one has asked him for the fire at the INION RAS, of which he was the director, and missing valuable documents, but they may ask !? And this leader absolutely does not feel his responsibility for all this and, unashamedly, continues to liberalize his liberal mantras everywhere!
  50. basal 8 March 2020 12: 58 New
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    Brewers are not in power, he is an ACADEMICIAN. Seen living academics? I chose a vile lesson.

    Pivovarov - liberometastasis of the 90s on the body of Russia. I will not touch on criminal cases of fraud and negligence of the “academician”, let the investigation sort it out - they haven’t given a move for 5 years now (the “academician is the same”) or stopped (see the size of the jambs of the “academician” and are not allowed).
    The biography of the "academician" look. MGIMO - postgraduate study - academic institute. Typical career thieves, medallions, which are legions. So I would have sat until retirement. But here is the 90s. And the guy went awry! It turns out that he is not deprived of talents - a business acumen and the ability to crawl without soap into ... popu - this is his horse.
    Or maybe someone heard about the scientific achievements of the "academician"? If only I had a little conscience, although what I mean ...
  51. Andrey Alekseev_2 8 March 2020 13: 11 New
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    And then the nightingales with litter .. fu
  52. 16112014nk 8 March 2020 13: 24 New
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    Quote: domokl
    A person has the right to buy any property anywhere.

    Anyone or favorites? Remember the joke:
    - I have a right ?
    - Yes, you have.
    “So I can?”
    - No you can not.
    Here are those that “but some are more equal,” maybe they have left a loophole for themselves.
  53. IL-64 8 March 2020 13: 58 New
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    And here is a simple question. As you know, in Tsarist Russia, nationality in our understanding today was established by religion. My great-great-grandfather, a Polish Jew, went as a Russian volunteer to the Bulgarian-Turkish war. Received Stanislav, if I don’t confuse (degree for non-believers, without a cross on a medallion), title of a personal nobleman and title (hereditary) Honorary Citizen of the Russian Empire. His son was baptized to marry a Russian. Subsequently, the men of our family considered themselves Russian and Orthodox, although they occasionally married Russians and Jews. They were awarded the titles, titles, orders (including the highest) of the USSR and the most prestigious international scientific prizes. According to my estimates, almost 50% of Jewish blood is in me. I am Russian? The representative of the titular nation or the Jew perch? I do not like the very idea of ​​mentioning in the Constitution that there are people - an older brother, and there are others. This is a time bomb in my opinion. All peoples of Russia are equal and have the same status. So, you can not single out any.
    1. Victor N 8 March 2020 14: 45 New
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      Cosmopolitanism is not peculiar to Russians - well, they grew up like that! Many do not like Russians, but they are and will be.
    2. IL-64 8 March 2020 17: 04 New
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      As I understand it, cons mean that all nations are equal in Russia, but there are more equal?
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        Quote: IL-64
        As I understand it, cons mean that all nations are equal in Russia, but there are more equal?

        There is. Not everything is still dumped into their historical homeland in the Levant, to the hell left.
  54. victor50 8 March 2020 15: 12 New
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    Can anyone tell me where the amendments are about the State Council? Which article? Three times I looked at the amendments on this link https://www.rod-pravo.org/polnyj-tekst-popravok-v-konstituciyu-vnesennyj-2-marta-v-dumu/ and did not see ..
    1. Campanella 8 March 2020 18: 55 New
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      This is one more charming moment, it is very difficult for people to find the content of amendments to the constitution, and this despite the fact that people seem to be actively participating in them, according to the authorities.
      1. Salty 8 March 2020 19: 01 New
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        Quote: Campanella
        it is very difficult for people to find the content of constitutional amendments

        Also me, Newton’s bin: https://sozd.duma.gov.ru/bill/885214-7
        Click on the "Package of documents when making" (PDF), it loads, opens, reads.
        1. victor50 8 March 2020 19: 10 New
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          Thank. About the State Council is cool: it will be, its powers will be determined later! Ieto invented by a team led by a law graduate request
          1. Salty 8 March 2020 19: 18 New
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            Quote: victor50
            About the State Council is cool: it will be, its powers will be defined later

            Are you talking about this?

            "g) forms the State Council of the Russian Federation in order to ensure the coordinated functioning and interaction of state authorities, to determine the main directions of the domestic and foreign policy of the Russian Federation and priority areas of socio-economic development of the state; The status of the State Council of the Russian Federation is determined by federal law"

            I don’t see any crime yet, and you?
            1. Freeman 8 March 2020 20: 22 New
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              Quote: SaltY
              Quote: victor50
              About the State Council is cool: it will be, its powers will be defined later

              Are you talking about this?

              "g) forms the State Council of the Russian Federation in order to ensure the coordinated functioning and interaction of state authorities, determine the main directions of the domestic and foreign policy of the Russian Federation and priority areas of the socio-economic development of the state; the status of the State Council of the Russian Federation is determined by federal law"


              I don’t see any crime yet, and you?


              It is very bad that you do not see.
              1.
              determining the main directions of domestic and foreign policy of the Russian Federation

              - Usurpation of the prerogatives of the President of the Russian Federation.
              As
              President of Russian Federation independently and in full responsibility “determines the main directions of the state’s internal and foreign policy” (article 80 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation) and “directs foreign policy” (article 86 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation)

              2.
              determining ... priority areas of socio-economic development of the state.

              - Usurpation of the prerogatives of the Government of the Russian Federation and the President of the Russian Federation.
              As
              Government but “exercises executive power” (Article 110 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation), that is, determines the operational directions of domestic policy and pursues the policy defined by the president in his decrees.

              3.
              The status of the State Council of the Russian Federation is determined by federal law

              - A “new branch of power”, not provided for by the current Constitution, with an indefinite principle of recruitment and a term of office.
              - A sort of "cat in a poke."
              1. Salty 8 March 2020 20: 37 New
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                Quote: Freeman
                Usurpation of the prerogatives of the President of the Russian Federation

                Does the president make amendments usurping his rights? Yah...

                Quote: Freeman
                Usurpation of the prerogatives of the Government of the Russian Federation

                And rightly so. The government is the executive branch, its business is "to fulfill the intended." Joke. The "operational directions of domestic policy" are likely to be left to the government. And no “usurpation” to you.

                Quote: Freeman
                "New Branch", not provided for in the current Constitution, with an indefinite principle of recruitment

                Just a certain collective body under the President, which forms it (completes).

                Quote: Freeman
                A sort of "cat in a poke"

                I should be afraid, but for some reason I’m not afraid ...
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                  SaltY (Salty) Today, 20:37
                  Does the president make amendments usurping his rights? Yah...

                  - And if he transfers to the post of this very "chairman of the state council"?

                  Just a certain collective body under the President, which forms it (completes).


                  - It now exists as a "deliberative body."
                  - And then, after the adoption of a certain "federal law"?

                  I should be afraid, but for some reason I’m not afraid ...


                  - "We sing a song to the madness of the brave!" (c)

                  - Madness of the brave - wreaths at a discount / also (c) /
                  / joke / wassat
                  1. Salty 8 March 2020 21: 16 New
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                    Quote: Freeman
                    And if he transfers to the post of this "chairman of the state council"?

                    That state council will form another President laughing

                    Quote: Freeman
                    And then, after the adoption of a certain "federal law"?

                    You see, the terms of reference of the State Council in the amendment are indicated by whom it is formed, also indicated. It’s a kind of “collective brain” under the President, and I don’t see how the “federal law”, specifying the powers of this body, can somehow change them seriously.

                    Quote: Freeman
                    Madness of the brave - wreaths at a discount

                    Born to crawl - should not fly

                    laughing
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                      SaltY (Salty) Today, 21:16
                      That state council will form another President

                      - Is not a fact.
                      He can form the current one, appoint himself “Head” and resign from the post of President, “in connection with the transfer to another job” - leaving “the next” with a “bit of authority”.

                      You see, the terms of reference of the State Council in the amendment are indicated by whom it is formed, also indicated. A sort of "collective brain" under the President

                      - now when - and maybe "over"

                      I don’t see how the “federal law”, specifying the powers of this body, can somehow seriously change them.

                      - And I "don’t see," the law is not. request

                      Quote: SaltY (Salty)
                      Born to crawl - should not fly


                      - Smart does not go uphill - rents a helicopter!
            2. victor50 9 March 2020 08: 41 New
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              I believe that the formation procedure, composition (number), tasks (specifically), the term for which its members are elected, should be spelled out in the Constitution. Although we even allow ourselves to prescribe the procedure for electing the president in federal law. Which is also wrong.
        2. Campanella 8 March 2020 21: 51 New
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          I wonder how grandparents, as well as those who do not have a computer, will torment this bean?)))
          1. Barmaleyka 9 March 2020 07: 39 New
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            a huge number of people who are over 70 on classmates facebook, etc.
            1. Campanella 9 March 2020 10: 30 New
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              Whose data is this? About TV, you can still say so, and that will be a stretch. However, for the authorities it is a historical norm to display certain categories of citizens out of the brackets of suffrage.
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                personal observations, terrible comp set up in the village
                1. Campanella 9 March 2020 10: 47 New
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                  I can even say in Moscow that many retirees for 70 do not use computers for health and other reasons. Of course, any value can be neglected. And then it is not in vain that new laws are published in newspapers.
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                    do not use computers for health reasons

                    ?!
                    is it like there are no hands?
                    1. Campanella 9 March 2020 11: 09 New
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                      Weak eyesight for example ...
                      1. Barmaleyka 9 March 2020 11: 15 New
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                        Well, yes, we don’t see the computer, but we could read the newspaper, don’t tell people
                        p / s / unlike the newspaper, the font size in the browser on the computer can be increased "ctr +"
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                        Thanks for the educational program. I see no reason to argue. If you believe in what you are writing, then you are simply not well informed.
                        In the end, orderlies will come and read you the draft amendments, having previously found it in a pile of Internet garbage - this will be in the final of your reasoning.
                      3. Barmaleyka 9 March 2020 12: 57 New
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                        Well, yes, you are the only informed, is there statistics data? !!!
                        I’m talking about the people I’m talking with, and how do you notice this in the village and not in the city?
                      4. Campanella 9 March 2020 13: 17 New
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                        Barmaleyka, and here are the statistics. Read the officialdom as the laws come into force. (Internet and print).
                        You have an exemplary village, and there are others, for example, divorced from the benefits of civilization. In the end, the people are not obliged to fumble on the Internet in search of any amendments, and the government, in turn, must convey information to it by all available means. It is clear that not “knowledge” and participation in the adoption of laws, as they say, does not exempt ... But if we seriously discuss it, then it would be correct to send, post corrections to each column to people.
                        As far as I remember, 15 yards were allocated for this business. It is interesting that the cameras in a strange way disappeared from the election commissions, all of them have broken down and now there will be no broadcast ... Those who understand how many people will come to the vote will not be real.
                      5. Barmaleyka 9 March 2020 13: 20 New
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                        Quote: Campanella
                        and here is the statistics. Read the officialdom as the laws come into force. (Internet and print).

                        how do you say
                        Quote: Campanella
                        I wonder how grandparents, as well as those who do not have a computer, will torment this bean?)))

                        Quote: Campanella
                        Read the officialdom as the laws come into force. (Internet and print).
                        you contradict yourself
                      6. Campanella 9 March 2020 13: 27 New
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                        You read carefully. If the law is officially introduced through the press, then there are reasons for this, including statistical ones. This is not enough for you, give you the numbers? You can find an advanced user if you wish and please us)))
                        Threat. And for those who can not read on the Internet or the press, there is a clause on ignorance, which, as you know, does not release ... Which, for me, is not very correct.
                    2. Salty 9 March 2020 13: 35 New
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                      Those to understand how many people will come to the vote will not be real

                      In any case, this will be unrealistic.

                      When voting is allowed to use the service "State Services" and remote electronic voting. https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2020/02/26/823899-den-obscherossiiskogo-golosovaniya
                    3. Campanella 9 March 2020 13: 40 New
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                      Yes, technology is on guard for those who need it!)))
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    The main thing in the "Putin" amendments, in my opinion, will be:
    - The State Council, led by the most worthy
    (I believe that his last name will begin with the letter "Pu")
    - The immunity of the former "head" of the state
    (my grandmother in such cases said - the cat knows whose meat was eaten);
    - The integrity of the accumulated assets of the former "head" of the state in Russia
    (for his continuous, so to speak, rowing in galleys);

    Moreover, in the "Putin" amendments there is NO:
    - a ban on Russian officials to have property abroad
    (there is always where to dump ... if that ...);
    - mentions of the progressive tax scale from the rich
    (become such during the reign of Putin!);
    - and many others beneficial to those who live wonderful under Putin.

    And all the other proposals, in my opinion, purely for the speciesin order to hide behind their huge pile those who, in my humble opinion, our great and sun-faced wants to promote as soon as possible!
    UNTIL IT HAS ALREADY TIME AND ADMINISTRATIVE RESOURCE !!!

    Today, the Constitution is not ideal, but Putin’s will be much less ideal!

  • Vasily Nikolaevich Gudkov 8 March 2020 19: 35 New
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    I suggest that the nation-forming people be called "RUSSIANS"
  • NordUral 8 March 2020 20: 15 New
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    When I see Pivovarov, I’ll go to the other side of the street.
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      Yes, yes, and on the other side, the president ... they will already ask you to release her, that’s where people slap along the roadway)))
      1. NordUral 8 March 2020 22: 35 New
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        I am better off on the driveway, and not with these, that are two sides of the same coin, Campanella.
  • Davlet 8 March 2020 20: 55 New
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    Thank you Mr. Staver for the article. I used to not like Pivovarov, but now I respect!
  • Al_lexx 9 March 2020 01: 03 New
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    Good article. Big thank you to the author.
    The only thing I would criticize somewhat is the last sentence, which essentially puts an equal sign between Yeltsin’s “Russians” and the original “Russians”.
  • polk26l 9 March 2020 06: 53 New
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    The article is good! Unfortunately, such Brewers, with the help of the USA and their satellites in Russia - "dime a dozen!" Like officials, oligarchs and other grabbers who lived, due to theft and bribery, the myriad wealth that they invested "over the hill!" Therefore, the people feel the injustice in the country! Such theft and unfair treatment of the people, with such natural riches of the country that are unfairly pumped and illegally enriched.
    "elected", in the USSR-was not !!! There, the slogan was really respected - "all in the name of man, all for the good of man!" The fact that the deputies removed themselves and state officials from the ban on real estate and money abroad must be changed by the popular demand and returned to the amendment in the original version, that is, for all state officials of the country, regardless of level !!! Do you want to be a government official? - comply with the Constitution and laws !!! The people, before voting, must demand the return of this amendment for all civil servants !!! The President said that he would sign the amendments to the updated Constitution only after all the popular vote, if the people vote by a majority vote! Therefore, everything is in the hands of the people!
  • lopuhan2006 9 March 2020 09: 18 New
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    The volume of this “very” correct article is equal to the volume of amendments to the constitution))) The problem of the advocates of the amendments is that the more they defend, the more doubts appear) Can flies be separate, and cutlets separately? And more precisely, the amendments are not immediately 300, but 5 pieces each and in a referendum we will discuss what is more important: real estate of officials, or prescribed in the constitution
    the Jewish God for one part of the population and another part of the population with its gods, or atheism as a religion, which is not reflected in the constitution? Or legalized poverty or the unlawful attitude of the state towards the bowels and gifts of the land, where these gifts belong to anyone, but not to the citizens of this country (not the state). Or maybe I did not notice an article (amendment) where the state undertakes to protect and take care of its citizens, and not to earn (spell out in words) on them and rob them (also spell out) them ?! That's something I think I will not see these amendments.
  • Sergey49 9 March 2020 13: 07 New
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    If the opinion of the people really mattered to Putin, then voting for the amendments would be point-by-point, and not all in all. And so this clumsy attempt is designed exclusively for idiots. What can you just discuss here?
  • pylon101 9 March 2020 16: 00 New
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    Vote for amendments? Definitely yes.
    The introduction of the norm of "state-forming people" is of great importance. This is the legal basis for immigration policy, which will be based on the preservation of the percentage of ethnic Russians regardless of the liberals’s wishes.
    We should definitely oppose the diversity & inclusion policy, which leads to the replacement of the indigenous population of the haplogroup R1a.
    This is a matter of survival of the ethnic group.
    All discussions about ownership overseas are common
    envy under the guise of justice.
    It is the business of our nation and its sovereign right to decide to what extent income inequality is tolerable. But for this issue to be relevant at all, we need to preserve the ethnic group.
    And stop talking, it’s impossible to understand who the Russians are.
    Do a genetic analysis and everything will become clear.
  • Dart 9 March 2020 17: 49 New
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    read comments ... in topics like ALWAYS, besides five or six recognized hysterics of the site, there are one-month-old BOTS or the same characters with such a small rank that it becomes immediately clear that they write only in similar topics where you need to be thrown .. . they also plus each other ... it is time for administrators to eradicate such things.
  • impostor 9 March 2020 19: 41 New
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    Mind does not understand Russia,
    No yardstick to measure:
    She has a special feature -
    You can only believe in Russia.
    F. Tyutchev
    Change rubles, not the Constitution wassat
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    LCA 9 March 2020 20: 12 New
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    Real sovereignty - autocracy - control over all contours of public administration, which is impossible without a stable predictor-corrector of conceptual power in the continuity of generations of a public institution.
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    Russia's sovereignty is the totality of the wills of individuals sovereign in their morality and world outlook - the civilizational core of Russian multinational civilization. The “thinking reed”, the liberal office plankton, the loyal weak-willed slaves were not involved in this. They are an obstacle to the development of Russia and humanity.
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    State sovereignty is the realized ability of state power to carry out the full management function in accordance with the state’s global, domestic and foreign policy.
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    The provision of the current constitution of the Russian Federation (Article 3, paragraph 1): “The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people” - an empty lifeless declaration with all the consequences associated with this fact.
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    This is practically expressed in the fact that:
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    • The ruling "elite" pursues a policy of debilitating the population through a pro-Western reform of the education system and the information policy of both "independent" and state media, and has achieved certain successes in this.
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    • The “elite” itself is infinitely incompetent in all the problems of sociology and social management, and at the same time, it is untrained (taking time and reading a book for its representatives is an outrageous feat), thinking independently (that is, identifying problems and developing ways to solve them) is not knows how and relies on third-party "experts" - consultants.
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    The “patriotism” of a fair share of the common people ends on the threshold of their apartment or on the perimeter of the site where their hut is, and the ideal head of state for them is “Old Man Hottabych”, who unquestioningly fulfills all their desires in a miraculous way without any meaningful efforts with their side. For them, sovereignty is something beyond their worldview: they do not care about the sovereignty of Russia and its future just like during the years of perestroika, they and their ancestors did not care about the sovereignty of the USSR.
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    How will Russia's sovereignty be revived?
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    Since globalization is an objective process, and the concept of globalization is a product of subjectivity, in order for the state to be sovereign, the institution of the family must educate individuals whose morality and ethics oblige them to take care of the good of the Earth and humanity as a whole own initiative.
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    If such a moral and ethical obligation is recognized, then it is inevitable that the transformation of care from the status of good intentions into the status of effective actions requires certain knowledge.
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    If there is no such knowledge in the culture of society, in order for care to be expressed in a good result, it must be developed and disseminated in society so that it becomes the property of, if not a common culture, then stable in the continuity of generations, organically developing subculture.
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    If the number of such people in society exceeds a certain fraction sufficient for them to enter the state authorities and change the nature of statehood over time, then the sovereignty of the state without any reservations becomes inevitable.
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    To this end, the concept, in the proposed algorithm of social management and organization of social life and economic activity, must find an adequate expression of the objective laws that govern the life of people, culturally distinctive societies, humanity as a whole.
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    And the process of reviving Russia's sovereignty in line with the concept of globalization, an alternative biblical concept of the enslavement of mankind on the basis of usury and other means of exercising power of all six priorities of generalized controls / weapons in Russia began in the years of perestroika.
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    And the amendments to the current constitution of the Russian Federation, initiated by V.V. Putin, are a certain stage in the formation of the concept of the CONCEPTUAL power of the Russian Civilization or in the form of the State Council or the Security Council - it will be seen there.
    The sovereignty in its entirety is the realization by society of the full management function in relation to itself.
    Accordingly, the sovereignty of the state is a consequence of the sovereignty of society, and not vice versa.
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    The sovereignty of democracy begins with the fact that the people know both concepts - both the concept of the enslavement of mankind (in extreme forms - fascism) and the alternative concept of humanity, that is, humanity and freedom in line with God's providence - and each person chooses which one in line with him live.
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    The multinational civilization of Russia has already made its choice and is implementing it. One of the signs of this was the approval by the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin on November 20, 2013 of the Public Safety Concept (http://kremlin.ru/acts/news/19653).

    What do you think that Russian people of different nationalities have chosen, and what will you choose if you have not decided yet, on the basis of which concept to live?
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    "Sovereignty" - "autocracy" - in Russian.
    "Democracy" - "democracy" - in Russian.
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    LCA 9 March 2020 20: 18 New
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    In society, the different stages of the implementation of the full management function are distributed among various types of intra-public authority.
    The conceptual power bears on itself:
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    recognition of factors that put environmental pressure on society;
    the formation of target vectors in relation to pressure factors;
    the formation of an appropriate, purposeful management function in structural and structureless ways, i.e., the concept of managing the achievement of the goal of social development.
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    Conceptual power always works according to the predictor-corrector scheme, in which managerial decisions made depend not only on information about the current state of the system, but also on the forecast of its further behavior (predictor-corrector, translated into Russian, although in essence it’s more accurate corrector ").
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    According to the “predictor-corrector” scheme, the highest quality of control is ensured, since some of the circuits of information circulation are closed not through the accomplished past, but through the predicted future.
    The activity of conceptual power is based on the ability to multivariate forecasting of the future and the morally determined choice of one of the many possible “visible” or perceived by the manager options.
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    Conceptual power is the beginning and end of all control loops, the highest of the types of intra-public power. It is autocratic, that is, autocratic in nature and ignores the “democratic” procedures of society, heterogeneous systems of initiation that do not see it or do not want to recognize its autocracy, because one can only rise to this level of power as one understands the general course of things and only so.
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    The term “conceptual power” has a second additional meaning, which is a consequence of the first just explained:
    Conceptual power is also the power over society of a certain concept by which public self-government is exercised.
    It is conceptual authority that underlies the autocracy, including the autocracy of the people.
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    The essence of a truly democratic society is not in the ways and timing of voting, as liberal figures are trying to imagine.
    The main task of building a true autocratic democracy in essence is to build such an organization of society, in which autocracy of conceptual power is available to everyone, and this is the possibility of rising in society through self-education as one understands the general course of things, by virtue of which autocracy cannot become anti-people.
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    This is the root of democracy-democracy, since the predictor-corrector of conceptual power is the beginning and end of all intra-public loops of self-government and the guarantor of the autocracy of society.
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    Types of power:
    Conceptual power (Putin then tries to create it by amendments to the current constitution of the Russian Federation V.V.).
    Ideological power.
    Legislature.
    Executive power.
    Investigative and judicial authority.
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    Conceptual power is objectively lawful, both due to the fact that all legislation is always an expression of one or another concept of the organization of society’s life, and due to the fact that conceptual power is an inalienable property of everyone who has risen worldview and self-discipline to the ability to implement it .
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    This means that the historical stage in Russia has ended, in which lawmakers could - as in the entire historically foreseeable past - develop and issue laws based on an unconscious “by itself” understanding or misunderstanding of the “public good”, without thinking about which of the many possible concepts of the organization of society’s life expresses this or that law, this or that article.
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    In other words, in Russia the management is formed according to the Predictor-Corrector scheme, where:
    Conceptual power is the Predictor-Corrector;
    Ideological power, Legislative power, Executive power, Investigative and judicial power - this is a Program-Adaptive Module.
  • Valery Karlov 9 March 2020 21: 39 New
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    And if it’s true, to write the truth to the Constitution, then many will not stand it, and the Russian amendment as a state-forming people will seem like an ottoman to a gentle cat. What kind of flirting is it between nationality and people, nationality? Can someone rub their eyes now that these changes there is nothing to stop, that with the advent of the unambiguity of the Russian language, the Constitution should be amended to abolish foreign words in legislative proposals. Maybe someone will come to that, there was not and there is no such multinational people. And if he is not, then this dead body is not like, can not be present in the Constitution. And who and when determined what exactly the Russians as a nation the State-building wanted to have a homeland like Russia? While nationalities spoke for Russia as their homeland, and the peoples of the Russians were not present there, because the Russians had and still have a Great Homeland, and pushing this truth away, we are farther away from the truth itself and from the bright path that we want to build in the future. It is strange of course when peoples (rare) express insults that their interests are supposedly so small in the Russian Constitution, well, you guys have taken so much that every nation and every nationality has its own Constitution, use it, because its own shirt, and in Russia the Constitution turns out as a generalizing uniting peoples into a single whole. Of course, if there is an understanding of the State forming the people, then probably there should be a provision on this topic. Each nation forms a State, but with a different responsibility and with a different territory. And here is another truth that you can’t get around and hide, the Russian people are sovereign people, no, it’s not that you think that it keeps other peoples in fear, but that it is the only people that has land and has the right dispose of it. All other nations have territories where they have everything they need, without relying on anyone. it would be possible to close this topic, but someone will start the topic, and why do they have so much territory, and someone finally can’t?
    and here is an example, And you remember that just recently we (the people) from all sides have been forecasting great natural changes and anomalies, where many lands can go under water, and many become unusable. Then Great Russia, not Russia as a State, but Great Russia with the Russian people will be forced to place distressed peoples on their land. Here is the answer to you why the reserve of Russian lands is so great. And why some businessmen strive to climb into the warehouse of Great Russia. And I will ask a question to the end so that my thoughts for someone would not seem delirious, but have at least some justification.
    When Jews turned to Stalin during the USSR, Stalin approved Israel, on the basis that he was dedicated to the fact that the USSR is an imitation of Great Russia, and if so, only he and Great Russia can establish the State. This is how much can be hidden in the Constitution of the Russian Federation and it is not given to develop to a normal logical state, only because someone wants to have dual citizenship, someone steal with impunity. 30 years in your life there were no Russians and how much you began to live better? Do you all live that the neighbor’s well is deeper and the land is more productive? (This is just my opinion, I didn’t want to offend anyone.)
    The Russian people are sovereign people !!! take care of the Russians !!!
  • Stanislav Ivanov_2 10 March 2020 12: 06 New
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    The article provides ample food for thought. And it raises the idea that it is necessary to get into the Constitution with amendments very carefully, which implies a lengthy and thorough discussion of the amendments at a professional level. It is on the professional, and not nationwide, for the popular choice is by no means always the right one. And as a package to vote for constitutional amendments is just fraud.
  • Stalnov I.P. 11 March 2020 09: 54 New
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    Dear, and what WE expected, all this bureaucratic whirlpool of flesh created by the president, this means only one thing, they will not tear from oneself, one’s darling, is it possible. All statements, suggestions of the main steward are aimed only at one thing: “rub your ears”, and then with a face, as in a pension reform, talk about failures in the USSR and the fault of the 90s. All but his are to blame. But in recent years, the richest have increased their income by 20%, that’s the answer for whom and for what it creates. I am not a fan of all liberalists, but GDP is not a hero of our time.
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    Interestingly, who otmazyvav Pivovarova from the investigation and trial for the looting of funds INION, followed by arson?
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    He was afraid that the time was coming when Russia as a state was becoming what the liberals wanted it to be.
    This is the author of the article.
    Between the Cossacks and the whip (to the centenary of the Russian constitution and the Russian parliament) // Polis. 2006. No 2
    The world is crumbling.