New US warships are written off for the sake of economy

USS Independence

The United States is implementing a large-scale shipbuilding program initiated by Donald Trump in the interests of the naval forces. It is designed to increase combat power. fleet, however, requires tremendous infusions. In this regard, it is necessary to seek funds in many different ways. So, the Navy managed to save significant amounts by writing off a number of new military pennants.

To resign for the sake of economy

Having sent four littoral ships (LCS) to the US fleet, it avoided significant maintenance costs of $ 1,2 billion and $ 0,6 billion in modernization that would have been paid in the next five years. This was stated by Vice Admiral James Kilby at a hearing in the House of Representatives:

When we reviewed our budget, we looked at how much they [LCS] cost in total [...] and we determined that the money can be used in other areas.

According to him, the department is giving priority to a Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine.

As Rear Admiral Randy Cretes previously explained, deductible LCSs are a special case since they were used for testing. Pennants Freedom, Independence, Fort Worth and Coronado, who became the first representatives of the two types of littoral ships, served only 6 to 12 years. But "their usefulness as test vessels is diminishing, and they no longer justify significant financial injections," says Cretes.

They need significant updates. This includes everything from military [systems] to structural [transformations]. They will require a lot of money for modernization.

- noted Cretes.

USS Freedom

Why do we need LCS

At the same time, as the previously mentioned Kilby explained, the need for littoral pennants remains, as they are designed to “lighten the burden of overloaded [missions] destroyers":

When I was appointed the commander of the strike group in 2017, I used the destroyer to provide [order] in marine fishing. This is not very rational. But this is an adequate task for LCS.

Currently, 9 Freedom class ships (out of 16 planned) and 10 Independence type (out of 19 ordered) are serving in the US Navy. In the Russian Navy, some experts consider project 22160 patrol ships, which are being built in the amount of six units for the Black Sea Fleet (with a possible expansion of the order to 12, apparently, for the needs of another association) in the Russian Navy a "light" analogue of LCS. They are primarily intended for service on the protection of territorial waters. At the same time, the Russian military is talking about the possibility of placing tactical missile weapons in container modification on them.

Comments

[rotmistr60]

The Navy managed to save significant amounts by writing off a number of new pennants

We decided to save on maintenance and modernization before spending a lot of money on their construction. What does capitalism look like? Or just furious under cover of good intentions.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: rotmistr60

What does capitalism look like?

They will sell it to anyone, and they will still boil.

[bessmertniy]

They can throw up loans to redeem. They will be happy there.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: bessmertniy

They can throw up loans to redeem. They will be happy there.

They will find a fool for four soldiers.

[Shurik70]

Well, they will not give, new ones ...
This is if only it’s more expensive to be disposed of than to donate.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

All unalloyed is not worth as much as 4 of these ships ....

[pmkemcity]

They will give blood. Or bodies.

[Private-K]

The capitalist does not want to bear any expenses. In real life - to reduce them to a minimum and, if possible, shift them to ... the state. Through lobbying-bribery-corruption. The United States as a state (okay, the "union of pseudo-states" ) bears the expenditure part of the set of "projects" incl. and in wars. And the capitalist receives the profitable part through various contracts for the supply of this or that to the state, through obtaining concessions, for doing something there.

[antivirus]

it is necessary to write off 10 US aircraft carriers and "our" fighters for the revival of the Russian Navy will have no reason to cry.
everyone looks in the complex - you can scare them with missiles or B1 - they will do it without showing the flag with troughs.
but the set goal will not be dishonored and will not be killed (destroyed), but frightened and milked after decades

[Graz]

The US Navy, by resigning four littoral ships (LCS), avoided significant maintenance costs of $ 1,2 billion and modernization of $ 0,6 billion that would have been paid in the next five years

When I was appointed the commander of the strike group in 2017, I used the destroyer to provide [order] in marine fishing. This is not very rational. But this is an adequate task for LCS.

Are expensive toys to watch for fishermen in their water area? Or is the main thing cut and not adequate efficiency at the forefront?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Graz

Are expensive toys to watch for fishermen in their water area?

For these purposes, there is the Coast Guard, which is now subordinate to the Ministry of National Security, and not to the Ministry of Transport. It was in the 70s that they drove us in the New England area. Litral ships were needed by the states during the Civil War, now there is no need to use such ships.

[sagitch]

When you have money, you can afford such expenses.

[Kurare]

Quote: sagitch

When you have money, you can afford such expenses.

On the one hand, yes. But, there is a very interesting point: if LCS were needed and practical, they would never have been put to the joke, but modernized.

For me there is only one conclusion - an unsuccessful concept, unnecessary projects and, accordingly, ships.

[voyaka uh]

These are the first on which the concept was run and the crews were trained.
The series did not stop. Equipped LCS with Norwegian KR for amplification.
And transferring to the Far East, as far as equipment, against China.

[Kurare]

Even if these are the first and partly "prototypes", they definitely cost a lot of money. But, they do not want to modernize them, even in the form in which they are now, they do not want to use.

I understand that the rich have their own troubles. But storing such a combat unit is either an exceptional luxury, or it stupidly did not live up to expectations and even modernization will not help them.

[Ross xnumx]

Some kind of controversial article.

Horses mixed in a bunch, people ...

Here they write:

New US warships are written off for the sake of economy

And right there:

In the Russian Navy, some experts consider project 22160 patrol ships, which are being built in the amount of six units for the Black Sea Fleet (with a possible expansion of the order to 12, apparently for the needs of another alliance), the “lightweight” analogue of LCS. They are primarily intended for service on the protection of territorial waters.

The plot of the plot by type: they and ours? Let it be there in the Pentagon, in Washington whether they write-off-record everything they want. The Russian fleet needs ships of different classes, which, as practice shows, no one but ourselves will build for us again. The ships of the far sea zone of different classes and purposes are very in demand, capable of completing combat missions in autonomous conditions, at a sufficient distance from the bases. An important issue is the provision of such a group with everything necessary - from replenishment of ammunition to replenishment of food and fuel.
And in our country, for the purpose of what economy is the ocean fleet being replaced by various patrol and other small-sized ships? The geographical position of Russia does not allow to be satisfied with the small ... If, of course, Russia has the goal to continue to be a great power with heroic maritime traditions.

[Thrifty]

And the Yankees did not try to plunder their defense budget less? Then they would have had enough money for new ships for sure.

[Mytholog]

Themselves are confused and people are confused. Written off - it's not yet "on the pins" sent. Nobody cuts them into metal yet, they just postponed the cost of modernization indefinitely.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

The write-off in this case is a withdrawal from the fleet and putting into reserve, where they decay quietly, because returning them from there and bringing them into a divine form will then cost more than the current amounts for modernization. So - on the needles.

[Mytholog]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

where they rot in a quiet ... So - on needles.

If so. But far from a fact, here the grandmother said in two. Both with shipyards and with money - much simpler. It’s too early to bury these littorals.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

With their money they are so simpler that the newly built ships are written off. And they have real systemic problems that no one is even trying to solve, so further it will not be much better for sure.

[exo]

Americans keep ships very well in reserve. So putting them into operation (or for sale) is unlikely to be a big problem.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

No one, being in their right mind and sober memory, will buy them, in the present form they need to pay extra for them to take it. And in order to restore the cost of modernization plus the inevitable repair after downtime

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

bringing to the divine form will then cost more than the current amounts for modernization. So - on the needles.

Definitely, on needles, or on nails.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Is there metal there? Or painted plywood? Well, stealth, you see, doesn't reflect anything. What you see is not from the hull, but from the captain's uniform ...

[lopuhan2006]

I hope 6 more Bulls will remain in the plans. To protect territorial waters without anti-ship missiles? Value as a combat unit is equated to the border Oceans, at a horse price with the same artillery weapons.

[Vasyan1971]

So, the Navy managed to save significant amounts by writing off a number of new military pennants.

To resign for the sake of economy

Wow, the bottomless barrel showed the bottom! Where is this world heading for ?!

[tihonmarine]

Pennants Freedom, Independence, Fort Worth and Coronado, who became the first representatives of the two types of littoral ships, lasted only 6 to 12 years.

Could give "Square", the old patrol 30 year old ships are given, but the new ones are driven on needles. They understand that a grenade should not be given to those who walk on four legs.

[Graz]

like in an old soviet joke, you want to ruin a small African country, give her a cruiser, the same thing will happen if you give the LKS a fresh one, though the option is like in a fable of a winged monkey and glasses

[5-9]

The apotheosis of peeling and rolling .... the only cooler thing is the small-shaving with DRLOU based on Nimrod, which were immediately written off to the reserve ...
The ships were "test", ie. raw and unfinished to the final technical appearance, if they need to be upgraded by 0,6 lard.
In a few years, they will either write off or withdraw into the reserve several hundred "test" Ph-35s ... which are still raw and not of a final technical appearance

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 5-9

The apotheosis of peeling and rolling .... the only cooler thing is the small-shaving with DRLOU based on Nimrod, which were immediately written off to the reserve ...

Not ... the British have the most epic project - this is the patrol Nimrod MRA.4.
Twelve years of work. 3,6 billion pounds spent. We planned 21 cars, but only nine money was enough.
And when the project went to the finish stage of the production of patrolmen, Britain suddenly decided that they did not need a patrol plane, since there were no goals for it. And the program was covered. And two cars already built - were cut into metal with the help of an excavator.

A year and a half has passed. And Britain suddenly needed patrolmen again. At first they discussed the possibility of buying them from the Japanese, but in the end the master's Poseidon won.

[5-9]

I probably meant it ..

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 5-9

I probably meant it ..

You will be surprised, but the British had a second epic project - AWACS Nimrod AEW3. At the base - yes, also "Nimroda".
Ten years of work. Spent 960 million pounds. Built 11 cars.
AND... ta dammm! - the program was closed in 1986. And the Nimrods were replaced by American Sentries.

[aszzz888]

New US warships are written off for the sake of economy

Greed, she always killed a fraer.

[Metallurg_2]

So is it really impossible to put another additional printing press into operation?