New US warships are written off for the sake of economy


USS Independence



The United States is implementing a large-scale shipbuilding program initiated by Donald Trump in the interests of the naval forces. It is designed to increase combat power. fleet, however, requires tremendous infusions. In this regard, it is necessary to seek funds in many different ways. So, the Navy managed to save significant amounts by writing off a number of new military pennants.

To resign for the sake of economy


Having sent four littoral ships (LCS) to the US fleet, it avoided significant maintenance costs of $ 1,2 billion and $ 0,6 billion in modernization that would have been paid in the next five years. This was stated by Vice Admiral James Kilby at a hearing in the House of Representatives:

When we reviewed our budget, we looked at how much they [LCS] cost in total [...] and we determined that the money can be used in other areas.


According to him, the department is giving priority to a Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine.

As Rear Admiral Randy Cretes previously explained, deductible LCSs are a special case since they were used for testing. Pennants Freedom, Independence, Fort Worth and Coronado, who became the first representatives of the two types of littoral ships, served only 6 to 12 years. But "their usefulness as test vessels is diminishing, and they no longer justify significant financial injections," says Cretes.

They need significant updates. This includes everything from military [systems] to structural [transformations]. They will require a lot of money for modernization.

- noted Cretes.


USS Freedom


Why do we need LCS


At the same time, as the previously mentioned Kilby explained, the need for littoral pennants remains, as they are designed to “lighten the burden of overloaded [missions] destroyers":

When I was appointed the commander of the strike group in 2017, I used the destroyer to provide [order] in marine fishing. This is not very rational. But this is an adequate task for LCS.


Currently, 9 Freedom class ships (out of 16 planned) and 10 Independence type (out of 19 ordered) are serving in the US Navy. In the Russian Navy, some experts consider project 22160 patrol ships, which are being built in the amount of six units for the Black Sea Fleet (with a possible expansion of the order to 12, apparently, for the needs of another association) in the Russian Navy a "light" analogue of LCS. They are primarily intended for service on the protection of territorial waters. At the same time, the Russian military is talking about the possibility of placing tactical missile weapons in container modification on them.

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  1. rotmistr60 6 March 2020 04: 50 New
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    The Navy managed to save significant amounts by writing off a number of new pennants
    We decided to save on maintenance and modernization before spending a lot of money on their construction. What does capitalism look like? Or just furious under cover of good intentions.
    1. pmkemcity 6 March 2020 05: 14 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      What does capitalism look like?

      They will sell it to anyone, and they will still boil.
      1. bessmertniy 6 March 2020 05: 27 New
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        They can throw up loans to redeem. lol They will be happy there.
        1. pmkemcity 6 March 2020 05: 31 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          They can throw up loans to redeem. lol They will be happy there.

          They will find a fool for four soldiers.
          1. Shurik70 6 March 2020 07: 33 New
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            Well, they will not give, new ones ...
            This is if only it’s more expensive to be disposed of than to donate.
            laughing
        2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 06: 31 New
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          All unalloyed is not worth as much as 4 of these ships .... wassat
          1. pmkemcity 6 March 2020 08: 21 New
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            They will give blood. Or bodies.
    2. Private-K 6 March 2020 08: 47 New
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      The capitalist does not want to bear any costs. In real life - reduce them to a minimum and, if possible, shift them to ... the state. By lobbying-bribery-corruption. The United States as a State (okay, "the union of pseudo-states" laughing ) bears the expendable part of many "projects" including and in wars. And the capitalist receives the profitable part through various contracts for the delivery to the state of one or another, through obtaining concessions, for the performance of something there.
    3. antivirus 6 March 2020 08: 51 New
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      10 US carriers should be written off and “our” fighters for the revival of the Russian Navy will have no reason to cry.
      everyone looks in the complex - you can scare them with missiles or B1 - they will do it without showing the flag with troughs.
      but the set goal will not be dishonored and will not be killed (destroyed), but frightened and milked after decades
  2. Graz 6 March 2020 04: 51 New
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    The US Navy, by resigning four littoral ships (LCS), avoided significant maintenance costs of $ 1,2 billion and modernization of $ 0,6 billion that would have been paid in the next five years


    When I was appointed the commander of the strike group in 2017, I used the destroyer to provide [order] in marine fishing. This is not very rational. But this is an adequate task for LCS.


    неслишком ли дорогие игрушки для присмотра за рыбаками в своей акватории? Или тут главное распил а не адекватная эффективность во главе угла?
    1. tihonmarine 6 March 2020 08: 52 New
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      Quote: Graz
      Are expensive toys to watch for fishermen in their water area?

      Для этих целей существует Coast Guard, которая подчинена сейчас МНБ, а не министерству транспорта. Это в 70 х они нас гоняли в районе Новой Англии. Литоральные суда нужны были штатов во времена Гражданской войны, сейчас нет нужды использовать такие корабли.
  3. sagitch 6 March 2020 05: 04 New
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    Когда у тебя есть деньги, ты можешь себе позволить и такие траты.
    1. Kurare 6 March 2020 13: 09 New
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      Quote: sagitch
      When you have money, you can afford such expenses.

      hi On the one hand, yes. But, there is a very interesting point: if LCS were needed and practical, they would never have been put to the joke, but modernized.

      For me there is only one conclusion - an unsuccessful concept, unnecessary projects and, accordingly, ships.
      1. voyaka uh 6 March 2020 18: 21 New
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        These are the first on which the concept was run and the crews were trained.
        The series did not stop. Equipped LCS with Norwegian KR for amplification.
        И перебрасываю на Дальний восток, по мере комплектации, против Китая.
        1. Kurare 6 March 2020 18: 24 New
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          Even if these are the first and partly “prototypes”, they are definitely worth a lot of money. But they don’t want to upgrade them, even in the form in which they are now, they don’t want to use them.

          I understand that the rich have their own troubles. But storing such a combat unit is either an exceptional luxury, or it stupidly did not live up to expectations and even modernization will not help them.
  4. Ross xnumx 6 March 2020 05: 07 New
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    Some kind of controversial article.
    Horses mixed in a bunch, people ...

    Here they write:
    New US warships are written off for the sake of economy

    And right there:
    In the Russian Navy, some experts consider project 22160 patrol ships, which are being built in the amount of six units for the Black Sea Fleet (with a possible expansion of the order to 12, apparently for the needs of another alliance), the “lightweight” analogue of LCS. They are primarily intended for service on the protection of territorial waters.

    The plot of the plot by type: they and ours? Let it be there in the Pentagon, in Washington whether they write-off-record everything they want. The Russian fleet needs ships of different classes, which, as practice shows, no one but ourselves will build for us again. The ships of the far sea zone of different classes and purposes are very in demand, capable of completing combat missions in autonomous conditions, at a sufficient distance from the bases. An important issue is the provision of such a group with everything necessary - from replenishment of ammunition to replenishment of food and fuel.
    And in our country, for the purpose of what economy is the ocean fleet being replaced by various patrol and other small-sized ships? The geographical position of Russia does not allow to be satisfied with the small ... If, of course, Russia has the goal to continue to be a great power with heroic maritime traditions.
    hi
  5. Thrifty 6 March 2020 05: 11 New
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    And the Yankees did not try to plunder their defense budget less? Then they would have had enough money for new ships for sure.
  6. Mytholog 6 March 2020 05: 19 New
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    They are confused and confuse people. Written off - this is not "on the needle" sent. Nobody is cutting them yet, they just postponed the costs of modernization in a long box.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 06: 30 New
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      The write-off in this case is a withdrawal from the fleet and putting into reserve, where they decay quietly, because returning them from there and bringing them into a divine form will then cost more than the current amounts for modernization. So - on the needles.
      1. Mytholog 6 March 2020 08: 24 New
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        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        where they rot in a quiet ... So - on needles.

        If so. But far from a fact, here the grandmother said in two. Both with shipyards and with money - much simpler. It’s too early to bury these littorals.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 10: 30 New
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          With their money they are so simpler that the newly built ships are written off. And they have real systemic problems that no one is even trying to solve, so further it will not be much better for sure.
      2. exo
        exo 6 March 2020 08: 28 New
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        Americans keep ships very well in reserve. So putting them into operation (or for sale) is unlikely to be a big problem.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 March 2020 10: 32 New
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          No one, being in their right mind and sober memory, will buy them, in the present form they need to pay extra for them to take it. And in order to restore the cost of modernization plus the inevitable repair after downtime
      3. tihonmarine 6 March 2020 08: 38 New
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        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        bringing to the divine form will then cost more than the current amounts for modernization. So - on the needles.

        Definitely, on needles, or on nails.
        1. Oyo Sarkazmi 6 March 2020 23: 43 New
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          Is there metal there? Or painted plywood? Well, like a stealth, you see, it doesn’t reflect anything. What you see is not a reflection from the corps, but a reflection from the captain’s uniform ... winked
  7. lopuhan2006 6 March 2020 07: 36 New
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    I hope 6 more Bulls will remain in the plans. To protect territorial waters without anti-ship missiles? Value as a combat unit is equated to the border Oceans, at a horse price with the same artillery weapons.
  8. Vasyan1971 6 March 2020 08: 01 New
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    So, the Navy managed to save significant amounts by writing off a number of new military pennants.

    To resign for the sake of economy

    Wow, the bottomless barrel showed the bottom! Where is this world heading for ?!
  9. tihonmarine 6 March 2020 08: 36 New
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    Pennants Freedom, Independence, Fort Worth and Coronado, who became the first representatives of the two types of littoral ships, lasted only 6 to 12 years.
    Могли бы подарить "незалежной", старые патрульные 30 летние корабли дарят, а вот новые гонят на иголки. Понимают, что гранату нельзя давать тем кто, ходит на четырёх лапах.
    1. Graz 6 March 2020 08: 40 New
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      как в старой советской шутке, хотите разорить небольшую африканскую страну подарите ей крейсер, тоже самое будет если лкс подарить незалэжной, правда возможен вариант как в басне крылова мартышка и очки laughing
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    5-9 6 March 2020 10: 11 New
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    Апофеоз попилинга и откатинга....круче только мелкобриты с ДРЛОУ на базе Нимрода, которые сразу в резерв списали...
    Ships were "test", i.e. raw and unfinished until the final technical appearance, if they need to be modernized at 0,6 lard.
    After a few years, they’ll be written off or put into the reserve several hundred “test” Fy-35s ... which are still raw and not of a final technical appearance. wink
    1. Alexey RA 6 March 2020 15: 18 New
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      The apotheosis of peeling and rolling .... the only cooler thing is the small-shaving with DRLOU based on Nimrod, which were immediately written off to the reserve ...

      Not ... the British have the most epic project - this is the patrol Nimrod MRA.4.
      Twelve years of work. 3,6 billion pounds spent. We planned 21 cars, but only nine money was enough.
      And when the project went to the finish stage of the production of patrolmen, Britain suddenly decided that they did not need a patrol plane, since there were no goals for it. And the program was covered. And two cars already built - were cut into metal with the help of an excavator.

      A year and a half has passed. And Britain suddenly needed patrolmen again. laughing At first they discussed the possibility of buying them from the Japanese, but in the end the master Poseidon won.
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        5-9 6 March 2020 15: 56 New
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        I probably meant it ..
        1. Alexey RA 6 March 2020 16: 59 New
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          Quote: 5-9
          I probably meant it ..

          You will be surprised, but the British had a second epic project - AWACS Nimrod AEW3. At the base - yes, also Nimrod.
          Ten years of work. Spent 960 million pounds. Built 11 cars.
          AND... ta dammm! - the program was closed in 1986. And the place was replaced by Nimrodov — correctly, the American Sentry. laughing
  11. aszzz888 6 March 2020 10: 46 New
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    New US warships are written off for the sake of economy
    Greed, she always killed a fraer. bully
  12. Metallurg_2 8 March 2020 10: 28 New
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    So is it really impossible to put another additional printing press into operation?