As Turkey comments on the talks between Putin and Erdogan on Idlib

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Today in Moscow, negotiations are being held between the presidents of Russia and Turkey. Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan are trying to find a solution acceptable to both sides in order to prevent a direct military conflict between Moscow and Ankara.

Everyone can watch the video broadcast of the meeting on the Internet. Turkish viewers very hotly comment on the negotiations, but their comments for the most part are very distantly related to the course of the conversation.



The reaction of Turkish social networks is somewhat reminiscent of the behavior of fans at a football match, who do not discuss the course of the game, but shout slogans and other “chants”, cheering the players of their team. It also reminds a situation when a boxer enters the ring, and the fans shout: “We are with you! You are the best! Ask him! "

Here are some comments from Turkish users:

I am ready to accept the battle next to my leader, I will die for my Motherland.

Leader, may Allah help you, we will not make concessions.

Don’t be sad, my president, stand straight, do not bend. Your people are with you.


And one of the users called on the Russian president to peace:

Putin, come to your senses, because the neighbors should not be enemies. Do not be stubborn. Accept what our leader said so that the children do not die.

In the Turkish media, meanwhile, there is cautious optimism about the Moscow talks. The Turkish media generally agree that talking to each other is better than conjecturing one another. However, the resources of opposition Turkish politicians react extremely negatively to Erdogan’s visit to Moscow itself. It is noted that this is a "gesture of a weak politician."
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  1. +16
    5 March 2020 17: 18
    I look forward to users who start yelling that we have the same thing.
    1. Maz
      +41
      5 March 2020 17: 22
      For all our "weaknesses", it was the Turks who came to bow to the Kremlin, and not vice versa. Just like the Israeli Nitanyahu bowed, was not lazy before the elections and won by the way ... So everything will be the way. The war between Russia and Turkey is beneficial only to the Americans and NATO, well, ishsho Israel. So we will agree. And where will they go to the Ottomans unfinished.?
      1. +6
        5 March 2020 18: 21
        Quote: Maz
        For all our "weaknesses", it was the Turks who came to bow to the Kremlin, and not vice versa

        After all, no one called them wassat
      2. +10
        5 March 2020 18: 22
        Quote: Maz
        For all our "weaknesses", it was the Turks who came to bow to the Kremlin,

        I agree. If Erdogan had been confident in his victory, he would have pulled "rubber", winning back the time, and with it the territories ... but now the situation is the opposite, the Syrians have recaptured Serkib, and in general, judging by the map, the Turkomans (and Turks) have halved in territory. ..
        1. +5
          6 March 2020 08: 32
          Erdogan flew in to take another course of psychotherapy smile . Now, of course, he had a remission, but we understand that this is not for long. Takshta-ah ... he flew away, but promised to return ...
      3. -20
        5 March 2020 20: 10
        Quote: Maz
        Like the Nitanyagu, the Israeli bowed

        Lies, she always remains a lie
        Yes, Netanyahu bowed, but not to Putin, but to the dead soldier.

        And the honors were also to the Israeli soldier and Nathaniyah

        But Vladimir Putin in Jerusalem did not hold back the tear of pride and respect for the memory of Israel for the soldiers of the Red Army

        IT'S TRUE
        1. -5
          6 March 2020 10: 05
          Having set the MINUSES, you are not interested in the real TRUTH and evidence of her.
          At the word [b "] ISRAEL" [/ b] she right there and starts her work:
      4. -5
        6 March 2020 00: 35
        Quote: Maz
        For all our "weaknesses", it was the Turks who came to bow to the Kremlin, and not vice versa.

        But we can say that the owner has arrived, he will distribute pots ...
      5. +9
        6 March 2020 02: 32
        Erdogan's blackmail failed.
        Now there will be a lot of “analytics” on the talks between Putin and Erdogan on the situation in Syrian Idlib and what they managed to agree on. Surely, contrary to the facts, someone will even declare Erdogan's victory. There will be such, and we all know their names. However, there are some obvious things that to ignore means to fight with common sense.
        The outcome of this meeting is simple - everything that the Syrian army recaptured from terrorist groups in Idlib remains under the control of the legitimate government of Syria. Including the city of Seraqib, which is in many respects key for the province. There will be no withdrawal of troops to the previous positions, which were indicated in the Sochi agreements. Key routes also remain under Syria's control, one of which is very important for establishing a peaceful life in the city of Aleppo.
        Aleppo is a very important city for the country's economy, to which, before taking control of the highway in the province of Idlib, one could only take a detour, through the desert, the path is long and dangerous. Aleppo was badly damaged when most of it was under the control of terrorists and now, when normal transport links are established with it, it will recover much faster. Perhaps the fact that the territories reclaimed from terrorists remain under Syrian control is the main result of the negotiations. Probably, it could be called a victory, but it's too early. Plus, joint patrols by the Russian military police and the Turkish military will be established along the six-kilometer security zone. But this is only a guarantee that where the patrols take place, the terrorists will not stick their heads. 
        And now - let's get down to a thankless job - let's predict what will happen next. And everything will be exactly the same. After a while, the terrorists will strike again at the Syrian troops. They will be ready, repel the attack and launch a counteroffensive, as a result of which a number of more settlements will be liberated. The Turks will raise another hysteria, perhaps they will even start shooting, like this time, but only then will the Syrians already know what to expect and prepare for defense. And after that, the next talks between Putin and Erdogan will take place, which will fix the current situation. Until next time. And so a couple of episodes until the whole of Idlib is cleared of terrorists. Perhaps Turkey will end up bargaining for some kind of security zone, about ten kilometers, where the surviving terrorists will live in not particularly comfortable conditions. And in this case, the Syrians will have only one headache - border protection. Under these conditions, this is probably the only real way to liberate the Syrian territory. A little war and a little diplomacy, dosed and neat.
        Oddly enough, but this time Erdogan did not even succeed in blackmailing Europe with refugees, which apparently additionally affected his pliability. The Greeks are still holding the defense, and the EU promises to help. However, while the pressure of refugees is not as strong as in 2015, but in any case, what Erdogan considered one of his main trump cards did not work. Standard accusations against Russia and Assad were expected to be heard in Europe, saying that they were guilty of a stream of refugees, but the rhetoric towards Erdogan became much tougher than in 2015. 
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      7. -8
        6 March 2020 10: 16
        During the meeting, Putin kept looking at the floor and muttering in a cowardly trembling voice. The whole cringed, unlike Erdogan lounging in an armchair. What was Putin looking for in the floor? Erdogan's bow considered?
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    3. +34
      6 March 2020 00: 29
      Turkish and Ukrainian sharovarnikov note)))
      What remains of Turkey after 16 wars with Russia 
      - Ladies and Gentlemen! Ladies and gentlemen! We meet! In the left corner of the ring is Turkey in 1568!
      Turkish borders before the first battle with Russia
      Weight category: Empire
      Nickname: Ottoman Empire
      · Size: 4 million sq. km.
      Population: 30 million people
      Ruler: Sultan Selim II
      - And now we meet a fighter from the right corner of the ring - Russia in 1568!
      Russian borders before the first battle with Turkey
      Weight category: Kingdom
      Nickname: Russian kingdom
      · Size: 3 million sq. km.
      Population: 6 million people
      Ruler: Ivan the Terrible
      - Ladies and gentlemen! The fight will last 16 rounds over 350 years. Don't miss the debriefing!
      350 years later...
      - So, ladies and gentlemen, according to the results of 350 years, Turkey receives a crushing defeat. Of the 16 rounds, she managed to win ... in just two.
      Let not you embarrass, oh dear reader, such a humorous beginning of this post. War is a serious matter. And during the clashes between Russia and Turkey, many people died on both sides.
      That is why it is rather strange to listen to the recent statements of the Turkish side that "Turkey has fought with Russia 16 times and will not be afraid to do it again."
      In this article, I will very briefly recall how these 16 times ended for Turkey and why it is better for it not to repeat anything else.
      So, once Turkey was called the Ottoman Empire and even encompassed North Africa. If you very roughly outline its borders with Russia in the 16th century, then they looked like this:
      As you can see, the Black Sea, in fact, was the inland body of water in Turkey. Well, about like we have Baikal now.
      The Ottoman Empire and its vassals belonged to Crimea, the Caucasus, part of modern Ukraine, Moldova, the territory of modern Krasnodar Territory, Rostov-on-Don, Sochi, Abkhazia, etc.
      And so, living in such chocolate, the Turkish sultans decided to take Astrakhan from Russia. Remember from the movie?
      - Kazan took ... Astrakhan took ... Shpaka did not take!
      Yes, in those years, Ivan the Terrible ruled the Russian kingdom. And he conquered Astrakhan.
      The Ottoman Empire did not like this. So you know what they came up with?
      In 1569, they brought a bunch of warships and 17 soldiers to the city of Azov. Plus 000 soldiers from Crimea joined them. Plus, they took 40 workers with them and with this whole gang (000 soldiers + 30 workers) they trampled into Astrakhan:
      You ask, why workers? The fact is that the Turks wanted to dig a multi-kilometer canal between the Don and Volga rivers, so that later ships from Azov could reach Astrakhan itself!
      The cunning plan of the Turks
      The result?
      As a result, the 15-strong Russian detachment dispersed 57 Ottoman soldiers and 000 Ottoman workers. And all because a work permit must be obtained in the prescribed form.
      Of the entire Turkish gang, only 700 people returned to Azov alive. The ships that stood all this time in Azov simply destroyed the most powerful storm ...
      And such failures haunted Turkey in almost all its wars against Russia.
      For the first time she managed to win only in 1711 (4th war). But that time she freaked out and sent an army of as much as 190 people against the 000 soldiers of Peter I. That is, they fought 38 on 000.
      For the second time, luck smiled at Turkey in 1856 during the so-called "Crimean War". But there Russia fought not just with Turkey, but with a coalition from the Ottoman, British and French empires.
      That is, in fact, Russia fought against half the world. But even this half was able to defeat Russia in only 3 years. But Crimea, by the way, couldn’t be taken away.
      The last war in which we fought with Turkey was the First World War. By that time, Turkey was already tired of raking and therefore she did not want to get involved in all this mess to the last.
      But then still got involved and went on the offensive. True, our troops repelled this offensive and drove the Turks back, going 200 km into the interior of Turkey. And only our internal problems (the 1917 revolution and the civil war) made us surrender.
      And yet, although we surrendered, but in 1918, Turkey still ceased to exist as a state. It was disassembled into pieces by France, Britain and other countries.
      Then in 1923 she was allowed to pack back and now the world map looks like this:
      If you liked this way of studying history and geography, please like this post to reach adviser Erdogan))
      PS Yes, and with two losses is also difficult ... Peter was surrounded, but there was no strength to finish off, a stalemate. At least they got hold of the money. I remember that the Sultan to the commander in chief did nothing wrong for this. In general, it turned out funny with Sevastopol, in a year they pushed the Russians from the southern coast of the bay to the northern one. Then the Uruses, in response, took Kars from ... the Turks, and the allies had to change. As a result of the "victory", the Port declared a default.) This is not even taking into account the battles of the Russian fleet at sea!
      There they were farted altogether 99 to one, one Brig Mercury which is worth !!!)))
      I think it's time to help the Kurds hold a referendum and return Constantinople (TsarGrad) to a third Rome! The rogues will immediately have a chance to peacefully return to Russian Orthodoxy, to introduce an anti-terrorist operation in Banderland dreaming of becoming claps with Polish lords again)
      1. +2
        6 March 2020 00: 44
        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        and return Constantinople (TsarGrad)

        It will be so.
      2. +2
        6 March 2020 13: 32
        I think it's time to help the Kurds hold a referendum and return Constantinople (TsarGrad) to a third Rome!
        and you will take a personal part in the return?
        And in general, why the hell did he surrender to us? If strategically, then the straits should be taken, and not focus on the city. But without a big war no one will give them to us
      3. 0
        6 March 2020 21: 39
        It is, of course, inspirational, but it is better to fasten the imagination and look really at the prospect of conquering Constantinople. Smokes too much.
  2. +8
    5 March 2020 17: 18
    However, the resources of the opposition Turkish politicians react extremely negatively to Erdogan's visit to Moscow itself. It is noted that this is a "gesture of a weak politician"

    Erdogan of course with a claim to the Sultan, but first of all a politician, not a warrior.
    Of course a cunning and warlike politician.
    But the weakness was not particularly noticeable.
    1. Dog
      +7
      5 March 2020 20: 37
      Quote: Livonetc
      warlike

      Cocky.
      This adjective differs from the belligerent one in that the bully eagerly runs into a fight, and when he gets into it, he runs away under the skirt to an older comrade, in search of protection from the "offenders".
      That’s how, having barely gotten too tough, Erdogan immediately ran to negotiate with Trump and NATO on protection
      1. 0
        6 March 2020 00: 46
        Quote: Dog
        Cocky.

        So ....
        What kind of blood is there?
        1. Dog
          0
          6 March 2020 13: 06
          Quote: DED_peer_DED

          So ....
          What kind of blood is there?

          No. Following the general style of your comment, you should write not "no" but "no". Take on arms
    2. +5
      5 March 2020 20: 42
      Yeah, the blackmail of Europe by emigrants, a request for ammunition from the United States, an attempt to negotiate Turkey-Germany-France-Russia? which ours refused, get scuffle in parliament and practically beg for a meeting and fly to Russia for negotiations? Is this not a weakness?
      1. -1
        6 March 2020 10: 22
        What is blackmail by immigrants? What --- are the Turks fleeing to Europe? No . Why should Turks support Syrian migrants with their money and despite the fact that the country is not accepted into the EU? Now let them decide the question themselves
    3. +2
      6 March 2020 03: 33
      Quote: Livonetc
      Erdogan Of course, a cunning and warlike politician.
      But the weakness was not particularly noticeable.

      How is he about weakness, I didn’t fight, I don’t know. But here is the hot southern blood, more than enough. And this is not the best adviser for a politician who should always be cold-blooded. So such a character trait as ardor can be safely put alongside stupidity. For it does not lead to good.
  3. +13
    5 March 2020 17: 21
    Strange position. Why should they fight with us? Well, the Turks persuaded their president, he attacked Khmeimim, broke through the defense, killed people ... Tomorrow swans will fly in and the whole world will wash the bones of the terrible Russians for the genocide of the Turkish people for a month. But no one will scratch the Turks to help ... And why? We would have agreed with Assad, nailed the barmaley, he would have surrendered the Kurds to them. You look after 3 years if Syria was under the Turks voluntarily and with a song ...
    1. +25
      5 March 2020 18: 23
      So there are all the barmalei. Only one is a little bit for Assad, others are a little bit for Iran, trity for Turks, fourth against all, and fifth against those who are against all.
      what
      1. +1
        5 March 2020 18: 45
        I’ll clarify - to beat those who are against Assad or for the Kurds
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  4. +8
    5 March 2020 17: 22
    The photo feels strained ...
    1. +11
      5 March 2020 17: 28
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      The photo feels strained ...

      Still would! On the one hand, it smells of war, and on the other, you can lose your head (I mean Erdogan).
    2. +1
      5 March 2020 18: 19
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      The photo feels strained ...

      What strain? It seems they’re not sitting on the toilets. request
      1. -1
        5 March 2020 23: 07
        Quote: Piramidon
        Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
        The photo feels strained ...

        What strain? It seems they’re not sitting on the toilets. request

        Putin is a "tyrant" after negotiations, and you can end up in Kolyma.
    3. +6
      5 March 2020 23: 00
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      The photo feels strained ...

      hi
      Naturally. Taipa has his own prestige at stake both domestically and internationally, and our leader will have a big carnage or can we somehow avoid it. And yet, and nevertheless, there is a glimmer of hope that everything will work out in a "bundle". But there is a fear that at the last moment a third force will kick in and arrange a prank (similar to the case with SP-2).
  5. +7
    5 March 2020 17: 22
    Here are some comments from Turkish users:

    Unfortunately, the comments of Russian users cannot be reproduced. 1. due to site rules; 2. banned; 3. Anyway, you can’t make out individual words to the President of the Republic of Turkey Mr. TR Erdogan, a solid pee-pee-pee ... pee
    1. +53
      5 March 2020 17: 27
      Turkish delegation at the feet of Catherine II
      1. +13
        5 March 2020 17: 48
        Very symbolic ... lol
      2. +16
        5 March 2020 18: 15
        Quote: Alexandr Sharapov
        Turkish delegation at the feet of Catherine II


        Because the cabinet was chosen correctly and with a hint.
      3. +23
        5 March 2020 18: 37
        Putin then Troll level 99 up + 1
        1. +4
          5 March 2020 19: 14
          Quote: Stas-90
          Putin then Troll level 99 up + 1

          The Darkest ............... bully
        2. Dog
          +5
          5 March 2020 20: 41
          Quote: Stas-90
          Putin then Troll level 99 up + 1

          Just in the protocol service, you see, guys with good imagination work
      4. +2
        5 March 2020 23: 09
        Respect! Remember Crimea and the eye, and the squadron in Sinope!
      5. +1
        6 March 2020 12: 44
        CLASS !!! The test photo!
  6. +7
    5 March 2020 17: 22
    The Turkish media generally agree that talking to each other is better than conjecturing one another.
    Damn, I knew that the East is a delicate matter, but I didn’t think so! What a leader ?! What century is it today ?! Do they think that Idlib belongs to Turkey ?! soldier
    1. +9
      5 March 2020 17: 31
      Yes, and not only idlib, but also the sex of Syria, with Damascus of course.
    2. +3
      5 March 2020 17: 34
      Do they think that Idlib belongs to Turkey ?!

      Exactly. Empire damn it ....
    3. -38
      5 March 2020 17: 59
      What a leader ?! What century is it today ?! Do they think that Idlib belongs to Turkey ?!

      No, whose cow would moo? Here, in VO believe that the sex of Ukraine belongs to Russia.
      1. +41
        5 March 2020 18: 06
        Why only sex? winked
        1. +3
          5 March 2020 19: 03
          They show to a steep castle bought by him - this is the 1st half of the 17th century.
          Do not understand! Where is the second half?
        2. Dog
          +3
          5 March 2020 20: 43
          Quote: Prjanik
          Why only sex?

          This is a Ukrainian Troll, it does not taste the mood of the Russians.
      2. +22
        5 March 2020 18: 10
        Here, in VO believe that the sex of Ukraine belongs to Russia.


        I feel offended proto-Arians in touch. And what do you think? Who should belong to the cities of Odessa, Kharkov, Kiev and others?
        Who should belong to Crimea?

      3. +9
        5 March 2020 18: 12
        Quote: 13-90
        No, whose cow would moo? Here, in VO believe that the sex of Ukraine belongs to Russia.

        Excuse me, what wind brought you here? Judging by the remark, you do not like it here. If so, then a fair wind to where the cows neither moo nor calve!
      4. +6
        5 March 2020 19: 21
        Quote: 13-90
        What a leader ?! What century is it today ?! Do they think that Idlib belongs to Turkey ?!

        No, whose cow would moo? Here, in VO believe that the sex of Ukraine belongs to Russia.

        And who else may belong to Ukraine ?? try to guess .... Israel? President Jew and all oligarchs Jews ... States? Svidomo army on the maintenance of the Americans, and most politicians also feed from an American bowl ... Ukraine can belong to anyone! Anyone who gives handouts Svido cross Ukrainian Ukrainians ...
      5. +1
        6 March 2020 12: 57
        there is no outskirts ..... there is illegally occupied by pan-and-headed ...
    4. -5
      5 March 2020 20: 39
      Do they think that Idlib belongs to Turkey ?!

      Yes. Does this surprise you?
      1. +1
        6 March 2020 02: 38
        Pereira, your ignorance is surprising. The Syrian Idlib, like the Golan, is not negotiable, but Tsar Grad (Konstatinopol), together with the straits, BELONGS TO THE THIRD ROMAN, THERE IS GREAT RUSSIA. Fourth, as you know, do not happen, chop off all of the above on the nose.
  7. -20
    5 March 2020 17: 22
    Well, why is this frank stuffing here?
    Or to show that "Putin is adamant and bargained for the best terms"?
    I do not understand the author
    1. -1
      6 March 2020 02: 40
      Citizen, this is not a stuffing, it is a given: WE ARE EMPIRE AND WE ALWAYS WIN. It’s time to remember for centuries. Though in war, at least in diplomacy.
  8. -1
    5 March 2020 17: 23
    Is there at least one Turkish media commentary on our couch warriors))
    Here we have them.
    Why is it here?
    1. +22
      5 March 2020 18: 49
      If Turkish media comment on our Alexandr Sharapov

      Then the Turks will go to war right now, on foot, swim across the sea, just who was what, in shorts means in shorts. And their main goal will be their own delegation, standing at the feet of Catherine the Great.
  9. 0
    5 March 2020 17: 23
    so-so sampling of course ... And negotiations are going on for quite a while ..
    1. +1
      5 March 2020 17: 34
      For such a mess, what's brewing there? Yes, do not disentangle her until the morning.
      1. +1
        5 March 2020 18: 26
        They won’t understand without a bottle, vodka and cancer will help laughing
  10. +5
    5 March 2020 17: 23
    I don’t know how it is in life, but judging by the comments, there are enough stubborn people in Turkey!
    Turkey, come on Maidan and the revolution of guides. (well, only in Turkish).
    1. +1
      5 March 2020 17: 54
      Quote: AVA77
      Turkey, come on Maidan and the revolution of guides.

      Duc was already alone! Not a ride! But good or bad, the future will show.
      1. +3
        5 March 2020 18: 05
        Well, it wasn’t Maidan. So a failed coup. Even the picture was not decent.
        Who was shot, the rest were planted and that’s it. Everything is as it should be, with tents on
        some sort of square, pots and lace underpants. So that everything as one, in a single impulse, to a brighter future. am
    2. -11
      5 March 2020 18: 01
      I don’t know how it is in life, but judging by the comments, there are enough stubborn people in Turkey!

      There are comments on VO worse, and more heaps of pluses are collected.
    3. +1
      5 March 2020 18: 16
      It would be a desire, to select a comment in any way and present the national mood in any form
      1. +2
        5 March 2020 18: 29
        You are right, therefore, I wrote that I do not know how it is in Turkey. In general, for some people, the Internet has become something like a new pseudo-religion. They believe the network, they live on the network
        and most exposed from the network.
    4. +3
      6 March 2020 02: 49
      AVA77, it was Erdogan who infected them after a trip to Hohlumbia, shouted "Slavakukarine" and brought home the xxxlizma viruslaughing. Atatürk pride - navede order (s).
      After the Maidan, Turks, according to the law of the genre, will start the Civil War and fall into the cauldron (cauldron)smile.
      1. +1
        6 March 2020 03: 11
        Thank! Pleased the old man! Neighing at three in the morning like a horse. laughing The picture you have stolen, the picture is super good
        1. 0
          6 March 2020 03: 28
          That floor is not my work - folk, I sharesmile.
          In still write:
          Pan-head couch troops rejected the agreements between Putin and Erdogan on Idlib and continued the offensive in Syria. A solemn motor rally "Erdogyaku Nagilyaku" was held in Kharkov
  11. +5
    5 March 2020 17: 23
    What a charm these Turkish patriots are ready to stand next to the leader and not give in to anyone without getting off the couch, However, as with us.
    1. +4
      5 March 2020 17: 47
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      What a charm these Turkish patriots are ready to stand next to the leader and not give in to anyone without getting off the couch, However, as with us.


      This is while he is a patriot under NIK, and when it will be necessary to go ...
  12. -1
    5 March 2020 17: 27
    For good and fairness, this Ottoman Pasha should not be accepted in the Kremlin but driven with pissed rags for his ingratitude
  13. +2
    5 March 2020 17: 31
    Tomato, he drove himself into this position ..... He took the burden on himself, Hitler was still an adventurer and even smarter acted .....
  14. +12
    5 March 2020 17: 38
    Erdogan himself got into this situation. The situation is called zugzwang - what next do not do it will be worse.
    And then Edika dawned on the GDP once saved him - and suddenly a second ride. That flew.

    Well, what can you do when an imperfect person tries to revive the empire ...
    But the Turks, yes, support their media no worse than ours ....
    1. +3
      5 March 2020 17: 45
      If the Sultan’s emotions are not overwhelmed, then a way out will be found.
      1. +4
        5 March 2020 18: 01
        If the Sultan’s emotions are not overwhelmed, then a way out will be found.
        There are no hopeless situations, the Sultan said, and shot himself. (C)
        1. +3
          5 March 2020 18: 06
          Also a way out. Yes
          1. +1
            5 March 2020 19: 24
            Exactly, it doesn’t happen, even if you were eaten, you already have two ways out.
        2. +1
          5 March 2020 18: 31
          Quote: 72jora72
          There are no hopeless situations, the Sultan said, and shot himself. (C)

          Well then, everything is in the hands of Allah.
    2. 0
      5 March 2020 18: 36
      Quote: bk316
      Well, what can you do when an imperfect person tries to revive the empire ...
      And the Turks, yes, support their media no worse than ours ..

      Just as the Ukrainians supported Zelensky in the elections, but I don’t know how now.
  15. +5
    5 March 2020 17: 44
    The Turkish media generally agree that talking to each other is better than conjecturing one another.


    This is a sensible direction and listen to the mind and not emotions.
  16. +1
    5 March 2020 17: 46
    Erdogan: "... we are just going through that time, that period when our relations have reached a peak." After the peak, there will be a "high-mountain plateau." And not every Erdogan will survive on it. laughing
  17. -39
    5 March 2020 17: 55
    Let's support our president!
    Vladimir Vladimirovich do not make concessions, we are ready to go to death all together !!!
    Me and all my friends, all of our compatriots, Sechin, Miller, Medvedev, Rotenberg, Manturov, Rogozin, Chaika, Prigozhin, Medinsky, Chubais and others ...
    We are ready to burn together for our homeland, for Putin, for the Russian idea, for our friend Assad.
    1. +19
      5 March 2020 18: 04
      We are ready to burn together for our homeland

      I and most of the readers were glad if you all "yours" burned out, not even necessarily for Putin, you can just like that. This is evidenced by your highest rating on VO
      1. -17
        5 March 2020 18: 32
        For you, the rating on VO is some indicator, criterion of something?
        I can imagine how much you had to tune into the general approval and the rank of colonel general ...
        Look, it’s possible to burn up, as long as the marshal is ... ugh, forgive me generously, scribble.
        1. +8
          5 March 2020 18: 58
          For you, the rating on VO is some indicator, criterion of something?

          For me, the rating is an indicator of the mood of the VO audience, which I generally unconditionally respect, although I often disagree with it. For people like you, the rating value is an indicator that you are a troll, which of course is also visible without rating.
    2. +6
      5 March 2020 18: 28
      Quote: McDonnell Douglas
      We are ready to burn together for our homeland, for Putin, for the Russian idea, for our friend Assad.

      Chasing! Prove by deed.
      1. -17
        5 March 2020 18: 43
        Everything, I burned ...
        Now the relay is yours!
        1. +4
          5 March 2020 18: 44
          Quote: McDonnell Douglas
          Everything, I burned ...

          Chasing again! There is no faith for you.
          1. -12
            5 March 2020 18: 49
            I can not answer because I burned out ....
            1. +2
              5 March 2020 19: 01
              Quote: McDonnell Douglas
              I can not answer because I burned out ....

              Pathologically persecuting.
              1. -7
                5 March 2020 19: 37
                Vasyan, Vasyun, let's change the subject of the conversation ... And then, burning and persecution already charit.
                Since March 8, you!
                1. +4
                  5 March 2020 19: 44
                  There is no faith for you. Harrya further.
                  Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                  Since March 8, you!

                  Your gender holiday? laughing
                  1. -7
                    5 March 2020 20: 00
                    Vasyun - was this name given to you by your mother at birth or the administrator of VO did not miss your nickname when registering as PySyuN?
                    1. +3
                      5 March 2020 20: 03
                      Cute! Eck, cha rushing! Yes, I’m paying attention to racers like you no more than to cockroaches. Pyzhit further. wassat
            2. +1
              5 March 2020 19: 42
              Ogarok))))))
        2. 0
          5 March 2020 19: 40
          Senya - a rabbit, too, that he drove for a bullet and brilliant green. Where is this rabbit now and where are its principles. You can feel the canopy of the rabbit features.
          1. -5
            5 March 2020 20: 04
            Some originality is present, but still at the level of Petrosyan ...
            It’s worth a bit of work to find your style.
            1. +1
              5 March 2020 20: 05
              Petrosyan? What a nasty thing!
              1. -7
                5 March 2020 20: 08
                Well, while this is your level, work brother ...
                1. +2
                  5 March 2020 20: 10
                  All the same, I think the image of Petrosyan will be higher than yours and Seni.
                2. +4
                  5 March 2020 21: 13
                  Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                  Well, while this is your level, work brother ...

                  Your brothers are eating up a horse in a ravine. laughing
    3. +6
      5 March 2020 19: 19
      Quote: McDonnell Douglas
      Let's support our president!
      Vladimir Vladimirovich do not make concessions, we are ready to go to death all together !!!

      You have no faith McDonnell Douglas. You as a provocateur only throw calls. I remember from you there was a call to hold a procession from Sakhalin to Kaliningrad, to burn the effigy of Erdogan and to hold a public prayer. Now you are urging you to burn for your homeland, for Putin, for the Russian idea, for our friend Assad.
      You have no idea, no friends, no homeland.
      I wonder how long you have enough endurance to play the role of a jester?
      1. -8
        5 March 2020 19: 39
        You keep track of my comments!
        Would you like to put my bibliographer?
        1. +6
          5 March 2020 19: 51
          Quote: McDonnell Douglas
          You keep track of my comments!
          Would you like to put my bibliographer?

          It's impossible. Over time, you will change the acc. and show up under a different nickname. Do not keep up with you. So fire me.
          Plus for your humor.
          1. -7
            5 March 2020 20: 09
            Plus to you for contacting you with a capital letter!
            1. +4
              5 March 2020 20: 43
              Quote: McDonnell Douglas
              Plus to you for contacting you with a capital letter!

              Yes, in all your posts you invariably follow this rule.
              Well, while this is your level, work brother ...

              Vasyun - this is the name your mother gave you

              For you, the rating on VO is some indicator, criterion of something?

              You have children down, God forgive me?

              You wrote it right!

              Vasyan, Vasyun, let's change the subject of the conversation ... And then, burning and persecution already charit.
              Since March 8, you!

              So teach your wife how to cook cabbage soup.
              1. -10
                5 March 2020 20: 55
                Vladimir at number six, my wife is not cooking. There are specially trained people for this ...
                But cabbage soup and porridge are our food, but not mine. Eating sauerkraut with sour cream and water is still a pleasure.
                1. +1
                  5 March 2020 21: 17
                  Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                  Vladimir at number six, my wife is not cooking. There are specially trained people for this ...
                  But cabbage soup and porridge are our food, but not mine. Eating sauerkraut with sour cream and water is still a pleasure.

                  If your wife had "specially trained people" in the kitchen, then you wouldn't have time to hang around this site.
                  But if "specially trained people" feed you, the conclusion suggests itself that you are a professional troll from the state south of Syria. And no matter what they feed you, of all the possibilities to resist Russia, you have only one - to shit on the forum.
                2. +3
                  5 March 2020 21: 17
                  Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                  my wife is not cooking. There are specially trained people for this ...

                  There is no faith for you!
                  1. +2
                    5 March 2020 21: 29
                    Quote: Vasyan1971
                    Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                    my wife is not cooking. There are specially trained people for this ...

                    There is no faith for you!

                    For people like him, "specially trained people" can be either in the army or in a strict regime colony.
                    1. +2
                      5 March 2020 21: 34
                      Quote: Vladimir_6
                      or in a strict regime colony.

                      On a youngster.
                      1. +1
                        5 March 2020 21: 41
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        Quote: Vladimir_6
                        or in a strict regime colony.

                        On a youngster.

                        It looks like it.
                      2. -5
                        5 March 2020 22: 00
                        Gentlemen, you just threw a stone at the Russian penitentiary system!
                        In your opinion, one of the colony workers carried a mobile phone to the area prohibited for use in prisons!
                      3. 0
                        5 March 2020 22: 28
                        Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                        Gentlemen, you just threw a stone at the Russian penitentiary system!

                        No. Only in you and in your level of mental development.
                      4. -4
                        5 March 2020 22: 48
                        Vasyun, first of all, the call sign, nickname, nickname or nickname speaks about the level of a person’s mental development - after all, this is exactly what the carrier invents for himself, and does not receive from his parents. Yes, and the choice of avatar can say a lot ....
                        It’s hard for me to imagine what moved you six years ago when registering here when I chose the derivative of Vasya and the penis.
                      5. +2
                        5 March 2020 22: 59
                        Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                        It’s hard for me to imagine

                        It only speaks of your limitations, honey. And about your subconscious thoughts
                        Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                        and penis.

                        laughing
                      6. 0
                        5 March 2020 23: 54
                        Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                        Gentlemen, you just threw a stone at the Russian penitentiary system!
                        In your opinion, one of the colony workers carried a mobile phone to the area prohibited for use in prisons!

                        You are mistaken sir. We talked about the Israeli penitentiary system.
                  2. -6
                    5 March 2020 22: 03
                    Vasyun, 49 years old, and the vocabulary is like that of Ellochka the cannibal.
                    Ho ho guy, don't teach me how to live ...
                    1. +1
                      5 March 2020 22: 29
                      Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                      Vasyun, 49 years old, and the vocabulary is like that of Ellochka the cannibal.

                      You have to stoop to your level. request On a canopy and a hat.
                      1. -3
                        5 March 2020 22: 59
                        Vasyun, heresy I do not want to write anymore.
                        So the communication session is ending.
                        Thank you for spending your time on me, and not on my wife, children or self-development.
                      2. +1
                        5 March 2020 23: 02
                        Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                        So the communication session is ending.

                        Okay. I count the drain. Take a rest, save up behind the cheeks of filth ...
                        Quote: McDonnell Douglas
                        Thank you for spending your time on me, and not on my wife, children or self-development.

                        You're welcome. For people like you, I always have time reserved.
                    2. +4
                      6 March 2020 02: 57
                      McDonnell Douglas, skakuas, take "Popazazhivin", look what happened to Turkey BEFORE the 14 wars with Russia and AFTERlaughing
            2. +1
              5 March 2020 21: 16
              Quote: McDonnell Douglas
              Plus to you for contacting you with a capital letter!

              Yes. This rarely transfers you to "you", and even with a capital letter.
    4. -1
      6 March 2020 02: 53
      Vladimir Putin: "Every time at critical moments we managed to find common ground with our Turkish partners." And as we can see, most often it was the fifth point of the Turks)) Apparently Erdogan also merged what is south of M-4 ...
  18. +8
    5 March 2020 17: 55
    Putin, come to your senses, because the neighbors should not be enemies.


    But isn't Turkey a neighbor of Syria ?! Or what, Turkey can rob neighbors and kill ?!
    1. 0
      5 March 2020 18: 28
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      But isn't Turkey a neighbor of Syria ?! Or what, Turkey can rob neighbors and kill ?!

      For Turkey, Syria is part of the Ottoman Empire. They sat in silence for a hundred years, and now it has rushed back to the empire.
    2. -1
      6 March 2020 12: 49
      Ay, what comments from you. And where are your pasts - Putin leaked Syria, Shame, etc.?
  19. +1
    5 March 2020 17: 56
    For me, the whole complexity of the situation should have been foreseen five years ago (except for the plane shot down) and ready for problems with the Turks, events show that our intelligence works and works well, that Erdogan is not a good sign to us, but everyone understands perfectly that not one GDP rules Russia and not one Erdogan by Turkey.
    1. +5
      5 March 2020 18: 06
      not one GDP rules Russia and not one Erdogan Turkey.

      Did someone promise that it would be easy?
    2. 0
      5 March 2020 22: 52
      what And why would the present fundamentally differ from the former in Sochi?
      As some say there: "He promised, but did not promise to fulfill ..." wink
  20. +5
    5 March 2020 18: 02
    Hmm, the Sultan has difficult negotiations, with a bad result, he can lose everything, even fans who scream on the Internet like crazy.
    People in case of failure will not understand him.
    Wangyu, all this will end with the withdrawal of troops. For the time being.
  21. +5
    5 March 2020 18: 07
    Erdogan may return to Turkey, and as a success, declare that he has brought the Turks peace that will allow Turkey to develop and strengthen. Which, by the way, is a powerful argument.
  22. +1
    5 March 2020 18: 09
    From March 3.
    "In the photo there is a Turkish pilot with a sign:" Russians, we have not started yet. Where are you?"."

    https://voenhronika.ru/publ/sirija_vojna/58
    1. +5
      5 March 2020 18: 27
      Quote: Livonetc
      From March 3.
      "In the photo there is a Turkish pilot with a sign:" Russians, we have not started yet. Where are you?"."

      https://voenhronika.ru/publ/sirija_vojna/58

      Well, this Turk can easily find the Russian SU-35 very close to him. Let him fly there and wave this piece of paper, if there is time.
    2. +4
      5 March 2020 19: 27
      Quote: Livonetc
      From March 3.
      "In the photo there is a Turkish pilot with a sign:" Russians, we have not started yet. Where are you?"."

      https://voenhronika.ru/publ/sirija_vojna/58

      He is so brave, because he knows that nothing will begin. For if it begins, then for him everything will end badly.
    3. +3
      5 March 2020 22: 25
      Russians: "Look around, ram ...!" angry
      1. 0
        9 March 2020 00: 07
        Here's what a real pilot should look like in his car -


    4. +1
      6 March 2020 01: 05
      Quote: Livonetc
      Pictured is a Turkish pilot holding a sign

      Do not show your main face.
      Look carefully at the picture ....
      Pilot in the cockpit of a fighter, behind the glass of a lantern?
      Yeah ... Probably he is flying in a balloon, and inside it (judging by the size and curvature of the glass).
      Behind a slightly curved sheet of plexus on the ground.

      "Citizens, this is a circus !!!" (FROM)
      Chuvyrly pancake.
    5. 0
      6 March 2020 19: 04
      The text on paper is slightly different, tama about the mother, well, then you yourself understand and of course about the Russians.
  23. +8
    5 March 2020 18: 19
    "O my president ...", "Allah be with you ..." "Do not be sad, my president ..."

    Damn .... it's a heavy 14th century, whatever one may say .... laughing
    1. +2
      5 March 2020 18: 26
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Damn .... it's a heavy 14th century, anyway

      Yes, quite a while ago I did not read such thoughts and statements.
    2. +2
      5 March 2020 19: 01
      Damn .... it's a heavy 14th century, whatever one may say .... laughing

      So what is there to be surprised, who comes to Turkey to dance and devour for free, he doesn’t see the real Turkey, he should come somewhere to Erzurum and immediately find himself in the 14th century ... - the mullah screams, the rams are cut on the main street, buildings not stone made of bricks ...
  24. +6
    5 March 2020 18: 23
    Erdogan is supported not by the most intelligent and not the most successful, who want to see Turkey as the leader of the Sunni countries and Turkish-speaking peoples, including inhabiting Russia. Hence the quality of the comments. Intellectuals, businessmen, professional military people cannot stand him.
    1. +2
      5 March 2020 20: 24
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Intellectuals, businessmen, professional military people cannot stand him.

      But this hat did not start there yesterday.Yes How many years have passed since the first performances of the Turkish youngsters, dissatisfied with the attempt on the secular foundations of the state, took place.
      After all, Erdogan almost immediately "turned on the obscurantist", and it started. fellow
      1. +2
        5 March 2020 20: 54
        So he worked for far from the most high-quality electorate, which in Turkey produces more, unfortunately, voters than the civilized part of the population.
  25. 0
    5 March 2020 18: 24
    Putin, come to your senses, because the neighbors should not be enemies. Do not be stubborn. Accept what our leader said so that the children do not die.
    These people are very dangerous for Russia.
  26. +5
    5 March 2020 18: 26
    Don’t be sad, my president, stand straight, do not bend. Your people are with you.

    Tochnik.
  27. 0
    5 March 2020 18: 35
    I do not understand, published comments from customers from Kashchenko?
  28. -3
    5 March 2020 18: 47
    I don’t understand what kind of chants in the TV and in the radio speaker are we talking about? Grab the Turkish citizens your Turkish machine gun, shout Allah Akbar, or something else, and go ahead with your chest to the embrasure !!!! Prove that you are not just sofa screamers, but that for the 17th time you are ready to be left without ears from Russian power !!!! All the actions of the great ottomania ......... are now similar to sadomasochism !!!! Want to die, so die beautifully !!!!! No need to yell at the telly and write nonsense on the internet!
    1. +3
      5 March 2020 21: 27
      Quote: Chingachguk
      Grab the Turkish citizens your Turkish machine gun, shout Allah Akbar, or something else, and go ahead with your chest to the embrasure !!!

      So history shows that they can easily do this. Provided that no less than five for one, otherwise they immediately rake and immediately ask for help.
      1. +1
        6 March 2020 05: 31
        drinks I completely agree!!!!
  29. +2
    5 March 2020 19: 02
    I am ready to accept the battle next to my leader, I will die for my Motherland.

    The leader in the office, you will die on the battlefield as a "hero")))
    1. +1
      6 March 2020 05: 38
      So even the battlefield itself is not clear where, and it is not clear at all why it is there. Who needs this ????
  30. 0
    5 March 2020 19: 52
    Quote: 13-90
    I don’t know how it is in life, but judging by the comments, there are enough stubborn people in Turkey!

    There are comments on VO worse, and more heaps of pluses are collected.

    For example?
  31. 0
    5 March 2020 19: 53
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    People in case of failure will not understand him.

    Do you think people will understand him when the coffins go? He himself brewed it, and he didn’t have to disentangle it.
  32. Dog
    +1
    5 March 2020 20: 31
    I am ready to accept the battle next to my leader, I will die for my Motherland

    Does Erdogan have such weak support that bots have to pay comments?
  33. +4
    5 March 2020 20: 36
    Normally, M 4 was also squeezed out.
  34. +1
    5 March 2020 20: 48
    as I understand it we talked cool
  35. +2
    5 March 2020 20: 52
    Quote: McDonnell Douglas
    Let's support our president!
    Vladimir Vladimirovich do not make concessions, we are ready to go to death all together !!!
    Me and all my friends, all of our compatriots, Sechin, Miller, Medvedev, Rotenberg, Manturov, Rogozin, Chaika, Prigozhin, Medinsky, Chubais and others ...
    We are ready to burn together for our homeland, for Putin, for the Russian idea, for our friend Assad.

    Castrolegolov strongly jerked, as the clutch broke on command. Painful, then remove the pan, scorching.
  36. +3
    5 March 2020 21: 04
    The comments of the Turks show that the Turks have an even more archaic society than ... Okay. We recall for clarity. But drones can produce.
  37. +10
    5 March 2020 21: 19
    The people are joking as they can))


    1. +2
      5 March 2020 22: 21
      "Vova! If you forbid buying pamidors from us, my wife said, I will bury them myself ... EVERYTHING!" laughing
  38. +1
    5 March 2020 21: 57
    "YuraizSum" is right, the agreement did take place.
  39. +1
    5 March 2020 22: 02
    Turkey in relation to Syria is an intervention country. And the interventionists must retire, that is, within the borders of Turkey. Only such can be a legal and final decision. Any other options will be a half-hearted decision, evidence of the weakness of Syria, Russia and the UN. For Russia, this is generally a hangover in a strange feast.
    Alexander Malchukov.
  40. +5
    5 March 2020 22: 16
    Any psychologist will say that a visit to someone is already a forced action in itself. I noticed that Putin began the conversation by listing the points: "... A ... B ..." This is the most serious sign of DICTING (!) Practically conditions ... well, etc. Putin negotiates from the position of a confident and sensible politician. And "our dear friend" Erdagan is feverishly trying to get preferences from both sides. SADDLE IS NOT ENOUGH! And let me remind the screaming henchmen in the net, advocating for the "great Ottoman": just remember the expression on Erdagan's face during the putsch, when he ASKED Merkel to give him shelter. And WHO, as a result, helped him to remain not only the president, but in general alive ...!
  41. +5
    5 March 2020 22: 33
    Erdogan got into such a situation that it is unlikely that this meeting will put all the points where they should be. The situation with the Donbass will simply freeze. Terrorists will not go anywhere, GDP will not force Erdogan to immediately remove them. Erdogan is tied hand and foot by his opposition, which is waiting for his mistakes. Well, then it will be seen. It’s good that everything went without war between our countries.
    1. -1
      5 March 2020 23: 17
      Quote: Anchonsha
      The situation with Donbass will just be frozen.

      I am afraid that Erdogan will "freeze" tomorrow. It has a very narrow tunnel inside Turkey for maneuver. Situyevin with Erdogan has no solution. Without Erdogan ... maybe.
      1. +2
        5 March 2020 23: 39
        Quote: iouris
        Quote: Anchonsha
        The situation with Donbass will just be frozen.

        I am afraid that Erdogan will "freeze" tomorrow. He has a very narrow tunnel for maneuver inside Turkey. Situevina with Erdogan has no decision. Without Erdogan ... maybe.

        ===
        the second time Putin certainly will not forgive. But to get in touch with the army of the Russian Federation, but there will still be overheads to lose the nuclear power station / gas pipeline / tourists.
  42. +1
    6 March 2020 00: 32
    This is not Erdogan deigned to fly to Moscow for negotiations, it was just that he was called on the carpet to our president and is reported as a naughty boy)
  43. -2
    6 March 2020 04: 48
    Now the Turks with the women will think, regroup, lick their wounds, look for and talk with the Allies and strike with renewed vigor, they did not declare surrender, but only agreed on a ceasefire. This is the Turks, the war since the time of Ivan the Terrible.
    1. 0
      6 March 2020 19: 56
      Quote: Vdi73
      regroup, wounds lick, look and talk with allies and strike with renewed vigor,

      Only we are already waiting for them, drones will not ride, there will be no surprise.
  44. +1
    6 March 2020 07: 29
    "I am ready to fight alongside my leader, I will die for my Motherland." (c) Sly. Understands where the safest place is, if anything. laughing
  45. 0
    6 March 2020 08: 39
    All this is nonsense .. In a month another everything will start all over again .. Get ready for war while there is still time.
  46. 0
    6 March 2020 11: 39
    That's why they are Turks!
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  48. 0
    6 March 2020 14: 25
    "Accept what our leader said so that the children don't die."
    There can be no peace with such, only a truce and no benefits for the supply of gas and other goods ...
    We must always keep in mind the murdered ambassador, the murdered aviator, and others who died in Syria at the hands of the Turkoman ...
  49. 0
    7 March 2020 04: 15
    Something we are constantly trying to strain "northern territories." The Japanese understood. This is an empty grass of time and energy, and "Edik" will understand - Russia cannot set conditions !.
  50. 0
    7 March 2020 10: 33
    What to think something ?!
    The ruler called with himself (for analysis) the arrogant boyar. What happened to the boyar is unknown, but he came out from the ruler on his feet. While on my feet.