Erdogan asks Trump for ammunition support


Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan requested US support for ammunition amid a worsening situation in the Syrian province of Idlib. A corresponding request was sent to the administration of US President Donald Trump. This was reported by Anadolu.


Answering journalists' questions about the possible support of Ankara by Washington, Erdogan confirmed that he had requested Trump support for ammunition.

I sent such a request to Mr. Trump

- declared the Turkish president.

The day before, US Special Representative for Syria James Jeffrey said that the United States is ready to provide ammunition and humanitarian aid to Turkey in connection with the aggravation of the situation in Idlib. According to the representative of Washington, the Turkish army uses American weapons and equipment. At the same time, Geoffrey did not specify whether Ankara would have to somehow pay for American supplies.

Meanwhile, it became known that the Syrian air defense units tried to use the Soviet S-200 Angara anti-aircraft system against the Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter, however, the Turkish aircraft safely escaped from the fired missile system and returned to Turkish airspace. But the Turkish drone “got” from the S-200, which became the second yesterday and the seventh on March 2-3. A Turkish drone was shot down near the city of Serakib.

In turn, Turkish media reported Ankara’s plans to deploy additional anti-aircraft systems in the Idlib region in the near future. According to the head of the secretariat of the defense industry under the administration of Turkish President Ismail Demir, in addition to the already deployed Korkut systems, it is planned to deploy Turkish-made Hİ SAR-A systems in a week to intercept at low altitudes. Further, it is planned to deploy Hİ SAR-O systems - to intercept targets at medium altitudes.

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  1. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 14: 10 New
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    seven drones destroyed it's cool
    did Edik's shells end ???))) or was it really a pity to use expensive ammunition?
    1. maxim947 4 March 2020 14: 22 New
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      A favorite pastime of the Anglo-Saxons is adding fuel to the fire. And it is not pleasant that he bowed his head before the trump on the eve of the meeting on the 5th.
      1. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 14: 24 New
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        often they themselves suffer from fire
        1. maxim947 4 March 2020 14: 25 New
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          I would like more often.
      2. Sky strike fighter 4 March 2020 14: 24 New
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        Why don't we add a little bit to counterbalance the Turkish F-16?
        Russia has transferred the Syrian Air Force R-77 air-to-air missiles, the Al-Mayadden newspaper reports, citing military sources in the Syrian army. As the source specified, Russia took such measures after the aggressive behavior of Turkish forces in the province of Idlib.

        It is reported that the crews of the Syrian MiG-29 fighters are already undergoing additional briefing and raid. Aircraft are almost ready to repel air attacks and cover the bombers.

        R-77 (RVV-AE in export version) - Russian medium-range guided missile (110 km)

        http://in24.org/world/38832
        1. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 14: 27 New
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          it’s just impossible to shoot down over the territory of Turkey
          1. Sky strike fighter 4 March 2020 14: 34 New
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            In an extreme case, it is possible to intercept the Turkish AIM-77C-120 with at least the P-7, so that there are no new losses.
            1. Sky strike fighter 4 March 2020 14: 50 New
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              P-77 can work on AIM-120C-7.
              The R-77 is designed to deal with air targets: airplanes, helicopters, and ground-to-air and air-to-air missiles at any time of the day in simple and difficult weather conditions, in the presence of background and active radar interference. The probability of hitting a target is 0,6-0,7


              https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%92%D0%92-%D0%90%D0%95
          2. Terenin 4 March 2020 15: 09 New
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            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            it’s just impossible to shoot down over the territory of Turkey

            In fact, according to unwritten international rules, no one canceled the "principle of reciprocity" no
            Another thing - taking into account the feasibility and time period ...
      3. Mytholog 4 March 2020 21: 33 New
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        Quote: maxim947
        it is unpleasant that he bowed his head before the trump on the eve of the meeting on the 5th

        Everything is simpler: "give - take, beat - run." They offered the Turk a weapon, why not take it?
    2. Krasnodar 4 March 2020 14: 40 New
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      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      seven drones destroyed it's cool
      did Edik's shells end ???))) or was it really a pity to use expensive ammunition?

      With such operations, there is always a frantic expenditure of precision ammunition.
      1. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 14: 45 New
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        so ended or is there still a small supply?
        1. Krasnodar 4 March 2020 14: 50 New
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          No idea laughing If there is, then very quickly end
        2. NIKN 4 March 2020 16: 49 New
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          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          so ended or is there still a small supply?

    3. Thrifty 4 March 2020 15: 04 New
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      Trump to the bone is a businessman, he can only SELL ammunition, with a 30 percent markup in the price! For money is never superfluous. ...
    4. Jack O'Neill 4 March 2020 15: 12 New
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      Americans can get them JASM and SDB, AIM-120C-7, AIM-9X and many other goodies.
      The same "Reapers", and even the "Hellfires" can help them with drones.
      1. Leshy1975 4 March 2020 15: 31 New
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        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        Americans can get them JASM and SDB, AIM-120C-7, AIM-9X and many other goodies.
        The same "Reapers", and even the "Hellfires" can help them with drones.

        They can still help Erdogan with ammunition in the literal sense. If tomorrow Putin and Erdogan do not bargain to a mutually acceptable result. That's right, with axes, right at the objects of the CAA, they can help. And no one here even wants to think about it. But all amicably and merrily laugh over the Turks. They have already knocked out quite technically the Syrians, and these are all having fun. All fight with sofas with caps.

        PS That would be for 5 minutes of these fun people from the VO site, but to Serakib. And then ask: well, is it still funny? No, I don’t understand these fun people. There, the Syrians get it hard, and these neigh with Erdogan. Oxymoron.
        1. Jack O'Neill 4 March 2020 15: 55 New
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          They can still help Erdogan with ammunition in the literal sense. If tomorrow Putin and Erdogan do not bargain to a mutually acceptable result. That's right, with axes, right at the objects of the CAA, they can help. And no one here even wants to think about it. But all amicably and merrily laugh over the Turks. They have already knocked out quite technically the Syrians, and these are all having fun. All fight with sofas caps

          It may well, the more experience is already. And if, in addition to the Turkish drones, the American ones also join, then in general the finish!
          Syria has a stalemate now!

          PS That would be for 5 minutes of these fun people from the VO site, but to Serakib. And then ask: well, is it still funny? No, I don’t understand these fun people. There, the Syrians get it hard, and these neigh with Erdogan. Oxymoron.

          It is truth too! Everyone so wants to fight, but they themselves will not get off the couch!
          The trip of such to Syria will obviously not be superfluous, and people will grow wiser.)
  2. lucul 4 March 2020 14: 12 New
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    Erdogan asks Trump for ammunition support

    Rzhu in a voice .....
    And they still boast that they can fight with the Russians when the Turks themselves, shells only for a week of war))))
    1. Oquzyurd 4 March 2020 14: 23 New
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      This is part of the policy, not a shortage of shells.
      1. Terenin 4 March 2020 15: 12 New
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        Quote: Oquzyurd
        This is part of the policy, not a shortage of shells.

        Part of the policy is to pout.
        Here, everything is simpler, this is a real shortage of ammunition yes
    2. Svarog 4 March 2020 14: 24 New
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      Quote: lucul
      Erdogan asks Trump for ammunition support

      Rzhu in a voice .....
      And they still boast that they can fight with the Russians when the Turks themselves, shells only for a week of war))))

      Yes, he’s Trump’s troll .. they say the USA is an ally .. help with shells .. then give the F-35 .. this is such an oriental style .. pretended to be an orphan .. with Putin I rolled this style ... maybe we can ride with Trump ..
    3. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 14: 25 New
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      precision weapon is a piece and expensive pleasure
    4. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 14: 27 New
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      So with Russians with accurate ammunition - the same problem. Catastrophically small. Gauges and QABs ended at the beginning of ISIS bombing in a week or two.
      And the French, the British - similarly.
      Only the United States has such missiles / bombs on the conveyor.
      1. Nasrat 4 March 2020 14: 44 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        So with Russians with accurate ammunition - the same problem. Catastrophically small. Gauges and QABs ended at the beginning of ISIS bombing in a week or two.


        Let them consider that they have ended ... And acquaintances work as hard workers at the N-th enterprise - they even go to work on weekends .. work in two shifts ... On February 23, they met, celebrated, the guys went to work in the morning, and the country was resting one day...
        1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 15: 20 New
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          So it was after the case when there was an interruption with Caliber and CAB and launched work in Russia in 2-3 shifts.
          Otherwise, the second salvo would not have taken place 2 months after the first.
      2. Vladimir_6 4 March 2020 14: 44 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        So with Russians with accurate ammunition - the same problem. Catastrophically small. Gauges and QABs ended at the beginning of ISIS bombing in a week or two.

        Igor Panarin says that they are not over.
      3. neri73-r 4 March 2020 15: 19 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        So with Russians with accurate ammunition - the same problem. Catastrophically small. Gauges and QABs ended at the beginning of ISIS bombing in a week or two.
        And the French, the British - similarly.
        Only the United States has such missiles / bombs on the conveyor.

        Our aiming systems are normal, simple VVS work just worse than high-precision ones. So do not worry.
        1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 15: 29 New
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          "We have normal sighting systems, simple blanks" ////
          ----
          Hephaestus? I thought that everyone already understood on the example of Idlib that this was a bluff. But, it turns out, it didn’t reach everyone.
          Similar accuracy, as in Hephaestus, was achieved by the Americans in World War II with the B-2/25. All countries copied and improved their device in detail.
          Fundamentally, the accuracy of the disc hanging in all winds from a great height cannot be increased.
          Therefore, we switched to laser illumination of the target and GOS on ammunition.
          1. neri73-r 4 March 2020 15: 33 New
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            Bluff, bluff!
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Therefore, we switched to laser illumination of the target and GOS on ammunition.

            Go and go, we don’t mind, just don’t be surprised that they end very quickly and are very expensive. Remember the war in Yugoslavia, when all of NATO missiles ended and if they were more stubborn and stronger than Milosevic, they would screw up with intervention.
          2. Vitaly161 4 March 2020 15: 49 New
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            stop stop, and during the 2nd World War the GLONASS and GPS satellites were deployed? satellite constellation is required for Hephaestus
            1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 16: 06 New
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              No, even ultra-precise GPS can not help with the free fall of a piece of metal from a great height. At different heights - different winds, gusts of wind. When separated from the aircraft, a push occurs - it is different. The bombs themselves have inaccuracies in the body and aerodynamics of the wings. Etc.
              Although crack, the bomb must be LEAD to the target by controlling its wings, depending on the active or passive guidance system on the target.
              Special bombs are put on ordinary bombs, on the sides and behind, turning them into controlled ones.
              1. Vitaly161 4 March 2020 16: 11 New
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                Well, I’ve studied the KABs device, there’s no need to talk about this, in practice, as it turned out, it is possible to drive a disc with 5+ km with a decent KVO, and you forget that SVP-24 helps to lay cast iron, current for previously explored goals, with what she does a great job
                1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 16: 13 New
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                  "drive with 5+ km to drive with a decent KVO" ///
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                  50 m - quite decent KVO for 5 km
                  1. Vitaly161 4 March 2020 16: 15 New
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                    Pounding, 50m away from you will fall FAB-500, the question is, what remains of you? (Imagine a horse in a vacuum)
                    1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 16: 20 New
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                      Several houses will fall around. What is happening in Syria.
                      Therefore, the UN is noisy.
                      Because of this, the Hephaestus CWO is 50 meters away.
                      And you have to get into a group of militants or a 10-50 kg tank with a bomb for sure. So that houses do not fall around.
                      Clear?
                      You can slam a 1000 kg bomb without any Hephaestus. And smash half the village.
                      1. Vitaly161 4 March 2020 16: 25 New
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                        Ooh, water begins in the ears, glory to the eggs, you don’t decide who, how and with what to destroy, is better for our GS to work than when it was necessary and the calibers flew, since they have all the standards
                      2. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 16: 47 New
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                        I’m not talking about humanism, but about combat effectiveness. It was nice to talk, although I was not able to convince you. drinks hi
                      3. Vitaly161 4 March 2020 16: 49 New
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                        what's the point? for me it’s better to smash the whole block with the broads than to spend expensive QABs, these are weapons for a more serious opponent
                      4. 3danimal 5 March 2020 11: 37 New
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                        Want to say that ours can massively kill civilians?
                      5. Vitaly161 5 March 2020 16: 37 New
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                        there’s a war there in general, if the civilians didn’t leave, or they weren’t taken out ..... this is of course regrettable, but it happens
              2. Vitaly161 4 March 2020 16: 27 New
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                that is, when the states of Rakku were razed to the ground, is that normal? and the UN did not complain, judging by what happened yesterday, this organization has outlived itself, and its place in history
              3. Alex Nevs 6 March 2020 10: 25 New
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                Leipzig mattresses have long been rehearsed.
    5. Vitaly161 4 March 2020 16: 13 New
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      there was information here on the VO how SVP-24 works
  • cniza 4 March 2020 15: 22 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    So with Russians with accurate ammunition - the same problem. Catastrophically small. Gauges and QABs ended at the beginning of ISIS bombing in a week or two.
    And the French, the British - similarly.
    Only the United States has such missiles / bombs on the conveyor.


    Do you steer on the conveyor belt and in front of ours your web camera is turned on?
    You yourself at least believe in it, you are a rather smart person ...
    1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 15: 32 New
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      Just read the MO report. laughing
      In the open press. It says how many calibers the army received per year.
      1. cniza 4 March 2020 15: 40 New
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        Well, if in the open press, then yes, they are definitely over. laughing
        1. Vladimir_6 4 March 2020 16: 09 New
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          Quote: cniza
          Well, if in the open press, then yes, they are definitely over. laughing

          In the open press, the range of "Caliber" indicated 300 km. And when they arrived from the Caspian, experts long argued that this could not be.
        2. Alex Nevs 6 March 2020 10: 26 New
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          Damn. Well, they are naive to the media infosomization. laughing
  • Guru 4 March 2020 14: 27 New
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    lucul (Vitaliy)
    Rzhu in a voice .....

    I support, I laugh from the heart good drinks
  • Teacher67 4 March 2020 14: 12 New
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    As they say, "quarreled Turkey and the United States"
    1. Livonetc 4 March 2020 14: 14 New
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      Not this way.
      USA bred Turkey.
      And they did it.
      1. Teacher67 4 March 2020 14: 32 New
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        Bred for what?
        1. Livonetc 4 March 2020 16: 12 New
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          On domestic and international conflict.
          The US coup attempt in 2016, prepared by the United States, failed (in particular thanks to the Russian Federation), however, the task of merging Erdogan remained on the agenda.
          At present, a serious coalition is being formed against Turkey, and not only among the Arab countries.
          Turkey is bred into ill-conceived, reckless actions that, with a high degree of probability, will lead to destabilization of the internal situation in the country and the difficult situation on the world stage.
      2. cniza 4 March 2020 15: 18 New
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        Quote: Livonetc
        Not this way.
        USA bred Turkey.
        And they did it.


        Playing on the ambitions of the Sultan, they are trying to incite Russia, whether Sutan can explain it, we will soon find out ...
    2. 13-90 4 March 2020 14: 19 New
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      As they say, "quarreled Turkey and the United States"

      Yeah. Another victory of the great geopolitical multi-step chess player.
      1. Nastia makarova 4 March 2020 14: 39 New
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        you do not understand the troll with a pan on the head))))
  • Tank hard 4 March 2020 14: 13 New
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    What about Kurdistan within the Turkish borders? wink Leaders?
  • Loess 4 March 2020 14: 15 New
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    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan asks U.S. support for ammunition
    I do not understand something. A low-intensity conflict lasts about a month. Ankara began to act actively two weeks ago. And there is already not enough ammunition ?????
    Meanwhile, it became known that the Syrian air defense units tried to use the Soviet S-200 Angara anti-aircraft system against the Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter, however, the Turkish aircraft safely escaped from the fired missile system and returned to Turkish airspace.
    An interesting point. Hopefully there will be details.
    1. Amateur 4 March 2020 14: 22 New
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      Ankara began to act actively two weeks ago. And there is already not enough ammunition ?????

      Shells and bombs are not tomatoes. On the bushes do not grow. bully
    2. Kronos 4 March 2020 14: 33 New
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      There are enough shells, but there is little precision for everyone
  • Tank jacket 4 March 2020 14: 22 New
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    Popouis asking for ammunition wassat
  • KAVBER 4 March 2020 14: 22 New
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    It is necessary to send the sultan pills from greed and more, in the form of humanitarian aid of course
  • dauria 4 March 2020 14: 23 New
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    however, the Turkish plane safely left the missile of the complex and returned to Turkish airspace.


    "Ha ha, I'm in the house." Interesting parsley. How to fight, if half of the tactical depth of the front is "abroad", but figachit from there? Politicians, you begin to interfere with the military. In vain, ruin life. Either kiss, or in the face you will swing each other. But they do not fight on a hobbled horse.
    1. urik62 4 March 2020 15: 13 New
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      In limited military conflicts, politicians have always prevented the military from taking the first Chechen conflict - in general, horror. I doubt that the SAA would decide to strike in Turkey - it’s not enough strength.
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      If you do not limit the conflict, it will grow and losses will increase by ORDER.
  • Guru 4 March 2020 14: 24 New
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    Aha laughing Edik's ammo runs out. I distributed everything to Barmaley.
  • signifera 4 March 2020 14: 38 New
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    So I don’t understand why S-400 can be sold to Turks, but not to Syrians !? We came to help the SAA and condemn the Turks for the invasion. I don’t understand how so where logic is, the honor of the country, again. Or the Turks have money, but there are no Syrians, this seems to be the answer.
    1. Kronos 4 March 2020 14: 41 New
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      So the Turks gave a lot on credit and so they gave and built
    2. 3danimal 5 March 2020 11: 48 New
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      Assad does not have money, you can only issue a non-repayable loan. Take an interest in the history of the supply of Arab countries with Soviet weapons - it was paid mainly by our citizens.
      1. signifera 5 March 2020 16: 34 New
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        I remember it was. In this case, there is already experience))) You can irrevocable loan, you can repay for 500 years, you can as a gift, you can humanitarian aid, but whatever. If we help, we need to help further. For me it’s better to invest to the maximum in wars on foreign territory and mainly by foreign forces, than to save and get these bandits at the borders or even inside. Together with partners. Yes, and for prestige is useful.
        1. 3danimal 5 March 2020 18: 50 New
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          I do not agree.
          Remember: why did these newly-formed (formerly Ottoman provinces) countries help? Because the populist leadership flirted with leftist rhetoric. Guys are cunning - words are cheap, and the help of a naive (in this matter) Union is quite tangible. Obviously, this was due to ideology, not pragmatism.
          Then what is the point of continuing to help those who fooled the previous ideological leadership? What does the Russian Federation have in common with the “victory of world communism”?
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            I also don’t agree, all these things are long-standing and forgotten. Not those people and some countries. I'm talking about now. As far as I understand the policy and the task of being in Syria, this also includes the neutralization of militants, radicals, and terrorists so that they do not appear with us. And the better we pump CAA, the less “work” will remain for our military. And the less they will suffer losses. Therefore, I think here it is not necessary to think and save, but to help, train and supply equipment and weapons free of charge. Until recently, it was going well, but Turkish UAVs appeared and the SAA suffered huge losses, if this continues for another couple of weeks, then I believe there will be nothing left of the SAA. From their shock and combat-ready parts. The remaining mass will dissolve as the enemy approaches. Therefore, they urgently need to “give” them effective air defense systems to deter Turkish UAVs, and then they will cope themselves. Plus, add aviation to them, they are working on old stuff. But how to convey to the Syrians everything they need so that they do not quarrel with dear allies and partners - let our rulers think so. Through whom or through what, secretly, openly, with cunning or something like that ... Yes, and I recall the saying, about two chairs, you still need to decide on these or these, and both will turn away. Something like that)
  • Vyacheslav Viktorovich 4 March 2020 14: 43 New
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    But the Turkish drone "got" from the S-200, which became the second yesterday and the seventh on March 2-3.
    Bayraktar TB2: maximum take-off weight 0.65 t
    Anka: maximum take-off weight 1.6 t
    S-200: starting weight 7.1 t
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  • Air force 4 March 2020 14: 50 New
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    All this is strange, the second largest army in NATO asks for help with ammunition. Most likely this request is just to show that the United States is with us and supports both Turkey and the beginning of its war against Assad, so the United States is indirectly drawn into a conflict funnel and the creation of an official coalition from NATO member countries begins. Well, newspaper headlines will sound differently: not Turkish troops, but allies led by Turkey attacked the "Syrian regime", etc. Although most likely these throwings with requests are either ammunition or patriots, and many others are needed. Turkey does before the meeting of Erdogan with Putin V.V. 5th of March. PS If Turkey after tight battles with ammunition becomes not so tight (probably the ammunition refers to shells, missiles, aerial bombs), then how are things going with Italy, Spain, Greece, I’m silent about the Baltic states, then in that case there is a reserve only one salvo, such as "We were attacked, salvo, go"
  • rocket757 4 March 2020 14: 59 New
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    Sisyas, his “friend Trump,” will roll away the “sweet” from the heart ... interestingly, will / will not?
    1. cniza 4 March 2020 15: 16 New
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      Of course it will, but the final price of the Sultan will not please ...
  • cniza 4 March 2020 15: 16 New
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    At the same time, Geoffrey did not specify whether Ankara would have to somehow pay for American supplies.


    First, no, and then doubly ...
  • Sarkazm 4 March 2020 15: 34 New
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    Quote: Air Force
    All this is strange, the second largest army in NATO asks for help with ammunition. Most likely this request is just to show that the United States is with us and supports both Turkey and the beginning of its war against Assad, so the United States is indirectly drawn into a conflict funnel and the creation of an official coalition from NATO member countries begins. Well, newspaper headlines will sound differently: not Turkish troops, but allies led by Turkey attacked the "Syrian regime", etc. Although most likely these throwings with requests are either ammunition or patriots, and many others are needed. Turkey does before the meeting of Erdogan with Putin V.V. 5th of March. PS If Turkey after tight battles with ammunition becomes not so tight (probably the ammunition refers to shells, missiles, aerial bombs), then how are things going with Italy, Spain, Greece, I’m silent about the Baltic states, then in that case there is a reserve only one salvo, such as "We were attacked, salvo, go"
    The step is purely political ...
    The Turks themselves produce adjustable shells for barreled artillery, missiles for MANPADS and SAMs, adjustable missiles based on NURS, ATGMs, cruise missiles, missiles for MLRS, especially in the latter case, the Americans generally by. And taking into account their ambitions to increase arms exports, production capacities were significantly increased. So the logic is simple, you need to pull up the States, bring the ambal to the children's sandbox lol But Trump will refuse if the Turks insist, this is another reason to give the Democrats, they say, against the Russians Trump will refuse, the Russian track and blah blah, the old record, we have heard it more than once.
  • Ros 56 4 March 2020 15: 59 New
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    It was enough for the Turks to have enough gunpowder, somehow strange.
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    [quote] According to the head of the secretariat of the defense industry under the administration of Turkish President Ismail Demir, in addition to the already deployed Korkut systems, it is planned to deploy Turkish-made Hİ SAR-A systems in a week to intercept at low altitudes. Further, it is planned to deploy Hİ SAR-O systems - to intercept targets at medium altitudes.
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    It would be necessary to test these anti-aircraft guns Points - they will catch or not. Do not get caught - burn
    1. 3danimal 5 March 2020 11: 53 New
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      So are the crews of Points in retaliation. When fighting with modern armies, this often happens ..
  • dr.mel51 4 March 2020 16: 55 New
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    And when Erdogan talked about in the water of the troops it was impossible to tighten the air defense in advance or thought that he was bluffing
  • Sarkazm 4 March 2020 17: 14 New
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    Quote: Bully
    According to the head of the secretariat of the defense industry under the administration of Turkish President Ismail Demir, in addition to the already deployed Korkut systems, it is planned to deploy Turkish-made Hİ SAR-A systems in a week to intercept at low altitudes. Further, it is planned to deploy Hİ SAR-O systems - to intercept targets at medium altitudes.

    It would be necessary to test these anti-aircraft guns Points - they will catch or not. Do not get caught - burn
    What he is talking about Hisar is bullshit, this SAM in the first version had just completed the tests, according to official information, before the start of the mess, the first deliveries were planned for the end of this, 2020, year. There are no miracles, an air defense system is a bunch of subcontractors, at the click of a finger, all in one hour cannot deliver all the components at once, starting from the relatively simplest and most mastered - automobile or tracked chassis.

    irmi is 20 in Turkish in a series then irmi bir is 21 ie operation only next year.
    If misunderstood, correct.

    That is, the maximum possible it was sent to Syria those installations that were tested, which is unlikely, if only to test in combat conditions. The remaining variants of this series of air defense systems are not even in the middle of the test process. In fact, this is a common version of air defense systems when modified air-to-air missiles are used as weapons. Ukrainians want to create exactly the same together with the Poles on the basis of the R-23. The same are produced by Israel and the EU countries. Air-to-air air defense systems with thermal and active radar heads are mainly used, which makes it possible to realize the principle of “shot-and-forget,” plus to reduce the radar’s operating time, or even use optoelectronic detection and aiming systems to reduce the likelihood of detecting air defense systems. So, in this regard, the Turks have nothing new, although it should be recognized that this is a simple and practical solution, unification of missile units and cheaper due to the volume of production.
  • Redline 4 March 2020 20: 18 New
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    If the upcoming meeting between Erdogan and Putin will be unsuccessful, Turkey will erase Syria into powder
  • Agent Smith 4 March 2020 21: 34 New
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    Prince Oleg will hang his shield on the gates of Constantinople:
    - open set in PMC White Wolves;
    -for the fulfillment of the goal of Prince Svyatoslav requires people;
    - need ideological, hard work and small pay, return return is not guaranteed. In cases of success, the glory and honor of the title of Prince of Kiev, the daughter of Trump and the parish in Africa
  • lvov_aleksey 5 March 2020 01: 35 New
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    it's funny how they fight for oil and gas ...
  • lvov_aleksey 5 March 2020 01: 36 New
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    Quote: Agent Smith
    Prince Oleg will hang his shield on the gates of Constantinople:
    - open set in PMC White Wolves;
    -for the fulfillment of the goal of Prince Svyatoslav requires people;
    - need ideological, hard work and small pay, return return is not guaranteed. In cases of success, the glory and honor of the title of Prince of Kiev, the daughter of Trump and the parish in Africa

    not funny, do not confuse J. with P.
  • Jarserge 5 March 2020 09: 00 New
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    The war has not yet begun and the cartridges are already over. And these people are threatening