The network discusses the strange gluing of a video of a Turkish UAV strike on a shell of an armor in Syria


After the publication by the Turkish Ministry of Defense of personnel with the destruction of the Pantsir air defense missile system, the Syrian government forces had many questions. This is a video of a strike from a drone on an anti-aircraft missile-cannon system SAA in Idlib.


It can be seen in Turkish shots that the Pantsir ZRPK has traveled to a certain point in the area, leaving behind a wide arcuate track. Then the drone’s camera demonstrates the strike, after which the frames do not show what remains of the air defense system. In addition, the track from the complex does not look at all as it was demonstrated in the first frames.

In other words, there was a strange gluing of two videos. Moreover, these videos were either shot from different drones, or by the same drone, but at different times, from different angles.

The users were puzzled by why the Turkish military needed to carry out such a strange gluing.



One of the questions: was the destruction of the "Shell" with one missile really demonstrated on these frames, or were the frames stuck together by inserting in the second part of the video a video on which the "Shell" was not destroyed at all? In addition, the network is discussing the question of what caused the blow if there was nothing left of the air defense system?

The network discusses the strange gluing of a video of a Turkish UAV strike on a shell of an armor in Syria

Users who are confident that the same blow is shown in the video believe that "due to the UAV being shot at the camera from different angles, you can see the track before turning the wheels." Those who do not agree with those who believe that the video presents two completely different videos - with hits on different pieces of equipment.

In any case, the important thing in this case is not even the gluing itself, but the fact that Turkey has actually entered a full-fledged war against Syria - a country that is fighting international terrorism.
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  1. Maz
    Maz 4 March 2020 08: 34 New
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    A statement was made at the level of the Iranian embassy in Syria, that is, everything is serious.

    Among other things, it contains the following words: “We remind the Turkish people that his sons were within the reach of our weapons for a month and we can take revenge. The Iranian government informed Erdogan that we would hit the Turkish targets with all force if the Turkish army continued to bomb our units and the Syrian army ”
    1. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 08: 48 New
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      Yes, already a couple of days ago this Turkish nonsense was refuted with video, there were last year’s shots from Libya and, like shooting two years ago in the SAR, shorter than the lame Regzhepka at hkhhlov got infected with hkhhlizm, zigulul “glory kukarine!”, And now his gallant media warriors took overlaughing
      1. bessmertniy 4 March 2020 08: 58 New
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        Iran is holding a pause. Io is, thinks well before striking.
      2. cniza 4 March 2020 09: 02 New
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        This is so, but no one has canceled the information war, why no one brings this to the minds of people:
        that Turkey has actually entered a full-fledged war against Syria - a country that is fighting international terrorism.
        1. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 09: 12 New
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          So we did not cancel, although they still did not turn on by 1%. Moreover, Russia has a trump card in comparison with the rest of the world - THE TRUTH IS FOR US. And this truth is often hotter for our opponents than any of their fears.
        2. Petruha1 4 March 2020 09: 15 New
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          ... a strange gluing together of a video of a Turkish UAV strike on a shell of an armor in Syria

          Fake news is created by fake people.
  2. The leader of the Redskins 4 March 2020 08: 34 New
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    Propaganda, it’s like a fire - if you don’t “throw up informational firewood”, it will quickly disappear. And if there are not enough firewood? Well, what would show that they are victorious and everything is okay? So installation and specialists on the schedule are taken up!
    1. Azazelo 4 March 2020 08: 37 New
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      Yes, now Turkey is either a vabank, or then it will have to pay off for helping the bearded. Well, propagandons have already come here. The Syrian army is defeated ... la la la and other nonsense ...
      1. bessmertniy 4 March 2020 09: 02 New
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        The longer this situation lasts, the more Turkey will suffer reputational losses. Unleashing a war against an Arab country, one must understand that there are among Arabs of other countries and volunteers to "tickle" Turkey. Moreover, the Turks climbed into Libya. repeat
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          1. bessmertniy 4 March 2020 10: 32 New
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            Alavites there are about 3 million. Plus the Kurds, and the main population of the country is Arab. And the country itself was positioned as a member of the League of Arab countries.
            1. protoss 4 March 2020 11: 12 New
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              Well, the main Arab population is now either in Turkey itself, or in Syria under Turkey.
              so it’s clear to everyone who is fighting with whom, certainly the Arabs.
          2. Alexander Seklitsky 4 March 2020 14: 46 New
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            Quote: protoss
            so the war is not against the Arabs, but against the Alawites - these are under-assimilated pagan Aramaeans,

            Nevertheless, the Asad family has been at the helm for several decades. The Alawites, unlike the Sunites and Shiites, are less radical and more secular. Therefore, this is a more literate stratum of the population. And by the way, Shiites are more likely to join the Alawites than the Sunnis. So, these two currents considered as one
            1. protoss 4 March 2020 17: 12 New
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              Alawite rule is a legacy of the French protectorate. before this, this sect did not protrude much.
              I don’t understand what the issue of literacy and secularism has to do with it.
              the fact that the Iranian ayatollahs called homosexual Aramaeans Shiites did not make them Muslims. this is a purely political issue, the Soviet Union at one time, if necessary, hung the label of socialists and communists on the necessary Aborigines, be they at least for the holidays. The main problem of Panshiism is the reluctance of Azerbaijan to participate in this, without it, a new Safavid state cannot be built, the Ayatollahs understand this, but do not want to accept it, therefore they try to use the ersatz that is at hand, maybe it will. in the end, they will also be left with nothing but the USSR as their world communism ..
              1. Alexander Seklitsky 4 March 2020 18: 16 New
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                Quote: protoss
                I don’t understand what the issue of literacy and secularism has to do with it.

                To be a successful leader you need to be a competent and secular politician. Sunites profess a more fundamental Islam. There is already wahhabism on the side. Such a society will be far from a democratic
                1. protoss 4 March 2020 20: 37 New
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                  how did you put an equal sign between literacy and secularism, why all of a sudden?
                  1. Alexander Seklitsky 5 March 2020 06: 04 New
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                    Elementary. The more educated the person, the less religious, and therefore the more secular. Take Wahhabism, there are very often dense and uneducated people who blindly believe in the laws of Islam. So many believers that they are ready to cut their throats to those who don’t share his opinion. you can send something to destroy, and not to build.
                    1. protoss 5 March 2020 09: 25 New
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                      some nonsense, I'm an atheist, but I don’t think that only because of this I become an educated believer. other parameters make me educated - 5 years of college, for example.
                      and you knowingly wrote our patriarch Cyril to the ignoramus?
                      about Wahhabism - this is just one of the directions in Islam, a sectarian direction. His followers in Saudi Arabia are often highly educated people with a British and American education.
  3. K-50 4 March 2020 08: 42 New
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    Just the Turks decided to wishful thinking.
    Here in the "cartoons" and pulled them. fellow lol
  4. rocket757 4 March 2020 08: 45 New
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    There is a war, there will be losses ... the end result is important! and even intermediate results are not obvious.
    1. cniza 4 March 2020 09: 12 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      There is a war, there will be losses ... the end result is important! and even intermediate results are not obvious.


      This is inevitable, but it is necessary to minimize them and it is very offensive, for us, I read the conclusion, but here it is fair:
      “It seems that Turkey is fighting in Syria according to the rules and regulations of the 21st century, and we were stuck in the 40s of the 20th”

      “We are fighting in Syria in the absence of radar control over airspace”
      How much can you step on the same rake? It seems, after all, that this is indeed our favorite national fun.

      On November 24, 2015, a Turkish F-16 fighter was shot down by a Russian Su-24 front-line bomber. Crew commander Lt. Col. Oleg Peshkov died.

      The main reason for this is the lack of radar control of airspace over the war zone, as a result of which the Su-24 crew was not notified of the Turkish F-16 attacking it and did not take defensive measures.

      I would like to draw the attention of dear readers that the Turkish Air Force has FOUR aircraft E-7T (Boeing 737 AEW & C) and they have the ability to control the airspace not only of Syria, but also of the adjacent Middle East and Mediterranean regions.

      Unlike the Turkish Air Force, one Russian A-50 type AWACS occasionally appears at the Khmeimim airbase.
      1. rocket757 4 March 2020 09: 46 New
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        Not everything is as obvious as some write. The facts can be presented in different ways ...
        Quote: cniza
        “It seems that Turkey is fighting in Syria according to the rules and regulations of the 21st century, and we were stuck in the 40s of the 20th”

        It’s complete nonsense, because the POLITICAL DECISION is obviously made not to aggravate! claims can be presented to politicians \ need, and the military carry out the ORDER!
        Impossibility \ unwillingness to bring closer the air defense systems and everything necessary for their effective work is closer, i.e. where you need to, is limited to the use of long-range artillery by TURKISH MILITARY ... our air forces that can not translate this artillery into -0-? maybe there is no order! Who gives the most important / main order? certainly not military.
        Those. as always, muddy games of politicians ... we have already considered this issue / assumed why they do this.
        You can find an answer to any statement that will show this statement in a completely different light ...
        I don’t like all this, like most other colleagues, but as I said, the giraffe is big, it sees and acts differently !!! right, not right, let's see.
        1. cniza 4 March 2020 09: 58 New
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          I really hope that politicians will be rational about their steps ... because the military has an order and they don’t discuss it, and I want them to save their lives in fulfilling it.
          1. rocket757 4 March 2020 10: 08 New
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            I also hope and really do not want to have victims when they can be avoided ... politics, its core !!!
      2. huntsman650 4 March 2020 10: 43 New
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        With the beginning of the database, airplanes will fall, this is what the s-4000 is for, and not to knock down the shusharu)
  5. Ratmir_Ryazan 4 March 2020 08: 45 New
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    It is a fact that the Turkish UAV was detected by the Shell Shell, but the Shell, in turn, does not see the UAV, although it can be seen that it works. Yes, and there’s nothing strange in gluing, at first the shooting was from a reconnaissance drone, and then from the one that destroyed the ZRPK
    This is a failure and shame on Russian air defense. 10 low-speed drones paralyzed the offensive of the Syrian and Russian army.
    1. Sofa expert 4 March 2020 08: 54 New
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      Is it really the Russian Federation in Syria? I thought that only the VKS, but we are a whole army there ??
      1. Gardamir 4 March 2020 10: 38 New
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        The army is not an army, but periodically the marines, sappers, signalmen and all of them were not ten ...
        1. Sofa expert 4 March 2020 12: 46 New
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          Detachments by detachments, but not the whole army .. If you send the whole army there, then who will protect us?
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan 4 March 2020 11: 06 New
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        Is it really the Russian Federation in Syria? I thought that only the VKS, but we are a whole army there ??


        Just do not just say now that we have nothing there, we have enough forces there starting from the S-400 and ending with the Su-35.

        In Idlib, not the entire Turkish army confronts us, but only a dozen UAVs that we cannot remove from the sky.
        1. sivuch 4 March 2020 11: 20 New
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          Yes, somewhere under a dozen and shot down
        2. Sofa expert 4 March 2020 12: 47 New
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          So you yourself said that we have an army there .. I corrected you, our army is watching at home, and the fact that our troops are there, well this is not an army,
          1. syndicalist 5 March 2020 13: 44 New
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            Can you name the number of the army, which is "watching at our place"?
        3. Alexander Seklitsky 4 March 2020 14: 52 New
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          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          In Idlib, not the entire Turkish army confronts us, but only a dozen UAVs that we cannot remove from the sky.

          Change the training manual, otherwise you look stupid. A long time ago, your drones are being knocked down in batches. I also have problems knocking a shushlay at a speed of 200 km per hour laughing
    2. Dude 4 March 2020 09: 01 New
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      Yes, and there’s nothing strange in gluing, at first the shooting was from a reconnaissance drone, and then from the one that destroyed the ZRPK
      Even the number of ruts from the wheels, in the first and second parts of the video - Other. So, the video is, of course, glued together, the cars are different. See with your eyes, not with what you are sitting on. winked
      1. Avior 4 March 2020 09: 17 New
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        the same
        the track differs only at the turn, and in the second part, because of the explosion, it did not fall on the frame.
        on a flat area the same track, this can be seen a second before the explosion
        1. Victorio 4 March 2020 09: 54 New
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          Quote: Avior
          the same
          the track differs only at the turn, and in the second part, because of the explosion, it did not fall on the frame.
          on a flat area the same track, this can be seen a second before the explosion

          ===
          the number of lanes is different. and the hood sticks out at the car (?). however, the question remains, why the drone was not shot down?
          1. Avior 4 March 2020 13: 38 New
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            I see, they have nominated, either the people really do not see, or do not want to see
            glued either from two different drones, or from one, but in different modes, the aiming mark is different.
            I think, rather 2 different drone-reconnaissance and strike, the picture quality is different, it seems the cameras are not the same.
            However, this could also be due to the flare of the lens by an explosion.
            I don’t write anything about the picture after the explosion, it’s difficult to make out there, maybe they finished something there and actually didn’t get there, it can be, and I don’t say that the whole video is real
            н
            I am writing only about a rut; the rut itself is at least the same on the eye, and without serious examination they cannot be distinguished
            it is clearly visible for a split second before the explosion - there the scale decreases and the track is visible in a large area, and not just in a bend
            comparing the picture at 9 and 7 seconds, three sections can be distinguished — the first one is a little wider, the second one is narrow, the third one is very wide in a turn.
            but the third section with a turn after the explosion is not visible, so the wide track is also not visible

            maybe this is misleading that the pictures are shown in the article from different sections, and in the video you can choose the moments with the same sections of the track.
            look in slow motion exactly the video from the article- if it doesn’t show, use the VPN in the opera-, everything is visible there
            hi
            1. Victorio 4 March 2020 20: 30 New
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              Quote: Avior
              but the third section with a turn after the explosion is not visible, so the wide track is also not visible

              maybe this is misleading that the pictures are shown in the article from different sections, and in the video you can choose the moments with the same sections of the track.
              look in slow motion exactly the video from the article- if it doesn’t show, use the VPN in the opera-, everything is visible there

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              there is no such frame on the video in the article as in your second picture (zones 1 and 2).
              the track turning radius in the second picture is smaller compared to the radius in the first (the moment of impact and explosion). here the image may be distorted due to a different angle (?).
              the cabin is clearly not Kamaz
              Well, the last, we will find out when the exact information appears, sooner or later
              1. Victorio 4 March 2020 20: 44 New
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                Quote: Victorio
                track turning radius in the second picture less, in comparison with the radius at the first (moment of impact and explosion).

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                to blame - more
        2. Dude 4 March 2020 12: 14 New
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          the same

          Reviewed. It is possible that you are right.
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      3. Ratmir_Ryazan 4 March 2020 12: 10 New
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        Are you serious?

        Turkish UAVs thwarted the offensive of the Syrian army in Idlib, drove them into the burrows, ours pretended that no matter how it concerns Russia, the Turks meanwhile enter the division in Idlib and continue to shoot down planes and destroy ground forces, and you are trying to justify the video of the shell’s defeat? !

        If the shells are so good, then why do Turkish UAVs continue to fly in the sky of Syria at home?
        1. Dude 4 March 2020 12: 38 New
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          Are you serious?
          Having carefully reviewed the video, I’m not sure that I correctly estimated the rut. Perhaps at the beginning and at the end of the video, the same machine.
          Turkish UAVs thwarted the offensive of the Syrian army in Idlib, drove them into holes

          The Turks are firing on Sarakib and Afes, the Syrians are hammering, from everything that is possible, according to Sarmin, Kminas, Binnish ... War, my friend, in full swing, what are the "holes"?
          If the shells are so good, then why do Turkish UAVs continue to fly in the sky of Syria at home?
          How many Assad have them? I have not met, in open sources, the number. In addition, the Shell is not a child prodigy, and literate, systemic Air defense, the Syrians, simply, no.
        2. sivuch 4 March 2020 14: 24 New
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          Do you receive news late for a few days?
          Only those who have not yet been shot fly
    3. IGOR GORDEEV 4 March 2020 09: 03 New
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      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      10 low-speed drones paralyzed the offensive of the Syrian and Russian army.

      Are there only drones? What about Turkish artillery? Turkish MLRS?
    4. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 09: 08 New
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      Ratmir_Ryazan, "When you say, Ivan Vasilyevich, the impression is that you are raving"laughing. Are you aware that over the past two days the Syrian "Armor shot from 5 to 9 Turkish" coolest "drones? If we add to that Libya, where the Haftans killed at least 3 Turkish drones in 6 days, then at Erdogashka they didn’t have such a pace after 2 weeks will remaingood. Our C1 even Amer’s sophisticated “tomahawks” in the amount of 73 + 36 pieces were shot down, plus several French “Scalp naval”, to say nothing of Turkish junk. There is no one even to compare with Russian air defense in the world, the rest are lagging behind a whole generation in all segments of this type of weapon.
      1. protoss 4 March 2020 09: 38 New
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        and here the figs knows him, the Turks upload at least some video, and only 2 photo confirmations for downed drones. Now that everything is on smartphones and on Twitter, it's weird.
        1. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 09: 45 New
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          protoss, photos and videos of downed Turkish unmanned junk - at least eat some singing in Syria and in Libya. Most likely another week - and there will not be a single “anchor” and “baiterek” for the rejepchiks, Assad will click them like seeds. He said many times, I repeat again: from the Turks, the fighters (with all of them 2nd in terms of the strength of the NATO army and unlimited human resources) are like a ram from a bullet. In general, for any adversary over centuries of confrontation, it would be time to slaughter on the forehead: where they fight under the leadership of the Russians, there is always victory for Russia.
          1. protoss 4 March 2020 11: 08 New
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            not talking about livia, in syria I saw pictures of 2 shot down, for the rest only a statement. this does not mean that they were not shot down, but also not the fact that they were shot down
            1. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 11: 14 New
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              In Syria, there were at least four photos of different downed Turkish drones only on Sunday-Monday, now apparently ten photos can be found shot down on Tuesday-Wednesday.
              1. protoss 4 March 2020 11: 23 New
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                can i find? find, pliz, throw it here. I have not found. I see messages about the shot down, no pictures in confirmation.
                I saw photos of 2 Turkish and 1 Iranian in recent days.
                1. Oquzyurd 4 March 2020 12: 58 New
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                  Why did you molest this believer? He will not find so many pictures. Are you not enough messages from the nuances?
      2. tekinoral 4 March 2020 10: 17 New
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        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        Syrian Armor based on KAMAZ, and on the video - MAN? By the way, another question is MAN with the Shell or Roland.
        And paralyzed on

        3 destroy drone
        1. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 10: 22 New
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          In Syria, from no less than 4 (confirmed) to nine. In Libya, six are only from Sunday to Monday. The Turks will soon have nothing except carrier pigeons.
    5. sivuch 4 March 2020 09: 30 New
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      But nothing that the Syrian Shell on the basis of KAMAZ, and on the video - MAN? By the way, another question is MAN with the Shell or Roland.
      And paralyzed for a couple of days - then the drones ran out
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      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      the Turkish UAV was detected by the Shell Shell, but the Shell, in turn, does not see the UAV, although it is clear that it works

      For experts, this is understandable. During the movement of the Carapace, its radar did not work, which allowed the Turkish UAV to approach the Carapace and enter the dead zone for the radar located above it. Then, after stopping our complex and launching its radar, it was destroyed. What solution can be found to prevent a similar incident in the future? It seems to me that they should work, at least in tandem with another of the same complex. While one will change his deployment, the second should stand in combat mode and cover it. Then, the first should do the same. The whole question is whether the Shell in Syria is enough for this.
    7. K-612-O 4 March 2020 09: 48 New
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      Then where is at least the skeleton from ZRPK? And here is the Russian air defense? Turkey has already lost 9 UAVs, with 6 of the newest and one of the best ANKA-S. Air defense for your information is a built-in system, and not separate complexes. One Shell is not a sword-treasure.
    8. sivuch 4 March 2020 10: 45 New
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      But this is not a fact - firstly, the base is not KamAZ, but the Manov base and a parabolic antenna, more similar to Roland-2. In any case, this is not the Syrian Shell.
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        Quote: sivuch
        But this is not a fact - firstly, the base is not KamAZ, but the Manov base and a parabolic antenna, more similar to Roland-2. In any case, this is not the Syrian Shell.

        The people were told to discuss the track, and now they are discussing the fact that it was not MAN discussing the team))) But the majority is so confident that the drone flew into the dead zone that the UAV could not see the Shell, although almost school model aircraft were shot down over Khmeimim.
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      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      It is a fact that the Turkish UAV was detected by the Shell Shell, but the Shell, in turn, does not see the UAV, although it is clear that it works.

      They zaminusuyut the person half to death. But you can’t argue against the facts. And they are like that;
      1. Neither the Russian air defense, nor even the Syrian one, has so far solved the problem of drones. And Syrian air defense is Russian technology
      2. It seems that indeed our air defense does not see the drone or sees very poorly.
      3. The positions of the Turkish artillery by the reconnaissance system (space, aviation and others are not detected.
      4. Even if they are detected, they are not destroyed due to the fact that the Turkish is much longer than the Syrian (Russian technology), as well as there are no high-precision ammunition.
      5. The Syrian air force does not reach the positions of artillery and the location of Turkish troops and clusters of militants. since the Turks have saturated the battlefield of short-range and medium-range air defense and continue to saturate. And the militants were supplied with MANPADS in sufficient quantities. Our aviation does not fly and does not strike at all. For the same reason.
      6. Syrian air defense is instantly destroyed by high-precision ammunition through a bunch of drone-art, as soon as it was noticed or it began to work.
      7. Syrian aviation is also under the gun of F-16, barraging on its territory near the border with Syria, and from there they destroy Syrian planes and helicopters.
      8. The rampant Russian electronic warfare systems that flooded Khmeimim turned out to be a complete zilch. Since they did absolutely nothing and did not manifest themselves heroically.
      9. The Turkish Coral EW systems, which they pulled up, quite effectively counteracted Syrian air defense
      10. In the conflict zone fly Turkish reconnaissance aircraft. Ours did not even think about using the A-50. Perhaps they understand that they are simply useless against drones and for reconnaissance and target designation of the location of the Tureks.
      This is the result of a modern and high-tech war. Unfortunately, this is the opposite.
      1. Thompson 5 March 2020 08: 28 New
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        Show the shell on the video! Above you have already chewed everything that they do not smell there. and how they work at our base, too, explained.
  6. Karislav 4 March 2020 08: 48 New
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    Well, do not be stupid !!! s1 is .. one and the same ... Assad dumbfounded the Turks that's all ... and not only Assad
    1. Hagalaz 4 March 2020 08: 59 New
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      Somehow, please streamline the stream of consciousness.
    2. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 09: 25 New
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      Karislav, shook it? Take off your pantslaughing
    3. sivuch 4 March 2020 09: 32 New
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      answered above. This is not Assad or Haftar or even a fake, which is more likely
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    Whoever you lead with is what you need.
    Countries like Server Korea, states and now Turkey have taken over the baton of military animation from us
    1. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 09: 29 New
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      McDonnell Douglas, if by the word "us" you mean your Outskirts - then everything is truegood. But Russia does not suffer from such garbage, we show what we invariably confirm in stock, in service and in action with the results of this action. Unlike mattresses, geyropeytsev, Chinese, Turks and other hhhlov.
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            Sarmat Sanych or Obolon Aleksandrovich - be honest, there’s nothing to answer?
            But Russia does not suffer from such garbage, we show what we invariably confirm in stock, in service and in action with the results of this action.

            Why not just admit your wrong?
            Yes, they say so and so, all the fakes are spreading, including Russia, was not right above, I apologize.
            1. Sarmat Sanych 4 March 2020 10: 34 New
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              See Douglas, you don't change the tradition of dipping yourself in uncleanlinesslaughing. Do not be so upset, everyone has their own destiny. And yes, the only controversial episode in comparison with hundreds of mattress fakes is nothing, not even a discussion. However, Russia is really waiting for this western disgrace to apologize to us and come with a petition. It will be useful even for them, believe the guys. It is also worthwhile to apologize to the domestic specialized media such as jellyfish, tape, the new toilet newspaper and other /// dei - they have accumulated fakes over the years in a million numbers. As you know, the sword cannot be blamed on the guilty head, so Russia will forgive everything after a little flogging.
      2. McDonnell Douglas 4 March 2020 09: 57 New
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        The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on November 14, 2017, published in its tweet “an indisputable confirmation of the provision by the United States of covering the combat-ready ISIS units” - a series of black and white photos. The photos, the Defense Ministry said, were taken on November 9 in the vicinity of the city of Abu Kemal in Syria.
        Then these pictures were deleted, as they were screenshots from a computer game.
        The Internet will help you to familiarize yourself with this information.
        1. Guru 4 March 2020 11: 19 New
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          McDonnell Douglas
          I can also register under the name "Ministry of Defense."
          Never! I repeat NEVER The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation DOES NOT PUBLISH footage from computer games, but Americans were caught on this more than once.
          IMHO
          And let me be minded
          1. Mimoprohodil 4 March 2020 17: 54 New
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            Quote: Guru
            I can also register under the name "Ministry of Defense."
            And to get a checkmark on the official page? The official website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation mil.ru shows the official pages on social networks, for example, facebook https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus. This fake remained there
        2. Torak 4 March 2020 11: 41 New
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          This is called discrediting from within. One of the most promising areas of information warfare. Column 5 is working. Remember when the official reports of the Ministry of Defense on our ISIS attacks regularly poked American pictures? And when, during the exercises, our soldiers allegedly got lost and crossed the Ukrainian border and when checking it turned out that this was meticulously rigged by the liberal authorities? From the same opera! More will come next!
    2. sivuch 4 March 2020 09: 33 New
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      Server Korea!? good
      1. rocket757 4 March 2020 09: 52 New
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        I somehow remember that the cartoons that drew whales when they bred everyone with their SDI advertising program were a long time ago ... so they didn’t need to be taught this, the masters themselves are still animators. By the way, there are more than enough episodes there, if you look carefully.
      2. McDonnell Douglas 4 March 2020 10: 04 New
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        Piglet T9
  8. Amateur 4 March 2020 09: 01 New
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    The last war in which the Turkish army took part was the “War of Turkish Independence in 1919-1923. It was led by Mustafa Kemal, who joined forces against the invaders, who captured a significant part of the country.” Since then, the army has not been at war for almost 100 years (police operations against the Kurds do not count). After the attempted coup d'etat in 2016, Erdogan transplanted and exiled almost the entire army leadership. As a result, not the most experienced, but the most faithful command. Something reminiscent of the Soviet-Finnish War of 1939-1940 with terrible losses from the Soviet side. In addition, Turkey is trying to wage war on 3 fronts - Syria, Libya and the Kurds inside and on the borders of the country. No NATO will stand up for Erdogan, because no one will fight with Russia for the Ottoman Empire. In the worst case, they will add some sort of regular sanctions. Turkish soldiers have no ideological incentives. But since "East is a delicate matter", then the GDP must be thought up in such a way that Erdogan would end the war, while "saving face" and the opportunity at all public events to declare that he "won a great victory."
    Or, as an alternative, so embed the Turkish army that the Turks themselves will remove Erdogan.
    1. K-612-O 4 March 2020 09: 50 New
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      Turkey's last war was in Cyprus
      1. Amateur 4 March 2020 09: 52 New
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        Turkey's last war was in Cyprus

        Sorry, and who fought with whom?
        1. K-612-O 4 March 2020 09: 52 New
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          Greece, Cyprus and Turkey
          1. Krasnodar 4 March 2020 10: 57 New
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            Quote: K-612-O
            Greece, Cyprus and Turkey

            Greece “participated” there. Their Phantoms were deployed by the Americans, who did not allow the attack of the Air Force of one NATO country by the Navy of another.
          2. Amateur 4 March 2020 14: 29 New
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            When it happened
            Paphos naval battle (July 21, 1974) - a battle between the Turkish fleet and Turkish aviation, provoked by the actions of the Greek large landing ship "Lesvos" (L-172) and the work of Cypriot intelligence
            lol
    2. Serwid 4 March 2020 09: 54 New
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      Quote: Amateur
      The last war in which the Turkish army took part was the "War of Independence of Turkey in 1919-1923

      I say the same thing. The Saudis on paper are just as fucking cool, but in fact, the Hussites beat them. Once again, the Turks should not be underestimated, but it is also not necessary to overestimate.
    3. Grits 4 March 2020 15: 31 New
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      Or, as an alternative, so embed the Turkish army that the Turks themselves will remove Erdogan.

      If you can vote, then I am for this option!
  9. Retvizan 8 4 March 2020 09: 06 New
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    Unambiguous installation and very clumsy.
  10. serzh.kost 4 March 2020 09: 07 New
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    in the meantime, the undersultan received another gift in Libya:
    Haftar troops inflicted a powerful blow at Mitig Airport in Tripoli.
    The destruction of the Turkish Hawk air defense system (one such system was destroyed a few days ago), an ammunition depot, several Turkish armored vehicles and "heavy casualties" was claimed.
    The attack was deliberately targeted at a Turkish base deployed right at the airport, from where Turkey uses UAVs. Judging by the fires, airfield hangars and temporary barracks are burning.
    According to the statements of the LNA command, attacks on Mitig and the Turks are carried out because they turned the airport into a base of international terrorism, with which the activities of armed gangs and terrorist organizations in Tripolitania are supported.
    The Egyptian Foreign Ministry also accused Turkey of supporting terrorism in Libya, directly stating that it was Turkey’s intervention that made Libya the center of the spread of international terrorism.
  11. Souchastnik 4 March 2020 09: 09 New
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    1. A closer look at the first roller shows the track of a multi-axis machine, with rotating wheels on each axis. On the second roller track, most likely from a light car. The track is slightly different.
    2. After the hit of a weapon in a cloud of smoke, the target is practically invisible. Even considering the scaling, the "Shell" should be visible. it was either annihilated by some kind of superweapon, or the affected object was significantly smaller. And most likely some fragments of the affected target should fly away. But this is not visible. Somehow, a fragment of the shooting was successfully selected. So, in my opinion, the video is nothing more than an explosion. Well, maybe some pickup was hit.
    1. Avior 4 March 2020 09: 20 New
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      the track is the same
      this can be seen in a flat area a second before the explosion, a wide track on a bend.
      in the second part, not only the Shell, but also the wide track at the turn is not visible due to the explosion
      why did the installation of the video do, I don’t know.
      1. maksbazhin 4 March 2020 09: 35 New
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        Where are the remains of the shell?
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          Quote: maksbazhin
          Where are the remains of the shell?
          Annihilated by weapons on new physical principles.
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  13. Anton Sokolov 4 March 2020 09: 17 New
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    damn, well, for any after the explosion there should have been a twisted pile of iron, and then it evaporated. This can not be ....... like gluing.
  14. Dmitry Zverev 4 March 2020 09: 18 New
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    Naturally, installation. And the drones are different and the goals are different. Destruction of a pickup truck is shown for sure. The other thing is unpleasant - the UAV hangs, the armor is in a combat position, the antenna is spinning, but the crew does not see a dangerous target. Someone smoking is standing next to the car. Almost the same thing when the Israeli Spike NLOS rocket hit armor c1. There, in general, the crew stood at a distance from the car; no one at all watched the air situation. A single air defense machine is always an easy target, there should be several anti-aircraft systems and they should cover each other. Always someone should be in readiness number 1.
    1. kjhg 4 March 2020 09: 46 New
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      Quote: Dmitry Zverev
      Another thing is unpleasant - the drone hangs, the armor is in a combat position, the antenna is spinning, but the crew does not see a dangerous target

      There are just no questions, the drone is in the dead zone of the Shell radar.
      1. Dmitry Zverev 4 March 2020 09: 52 New
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        Then, all the more, the adjacent vehicle should control the dead zone, and a single vehicle should not be put forward into the combat zone. When will the Syrian command begin to act competently?
        1. sivuch 4 March 2020 11: 27 New
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          And where does the Syrian command (if we are talking about the last video)?
          In SOTski Shell, by the way, Dmin = 1km. (At Thor, if anyone is interested -3 km)
      2. Victorio 4 March 2020 10: 08 New
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        Quote: kjhg
        Quote: Dmitry Zverev
        Another thing is unpleasant - the drone hangs, the armor is in a combat position, the antenna is spinning, but the crew does not see a dangerous target

        There are just no questions, the drone is in the dead zone of the Shell radar.

        ===
        but how much is his zone, somewhere he saw the figure of 15 degrees, the drone has a clearly larger angle, are there automatic machines for what?
    2. Slavs 4 March 2020 11: 17 New
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      There, in general, the crew stood at a distance from the car; no one at all watched the air situation.

      If I’m not mistaken, then it was clear from the photo that the BC was shot at the Shell ... If I don’t confuse the events that you mention ...
  15. rotmistr60 4 March 2020 09: 31 New
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    why did the Turkish military need to carry out such a strange gluing
    Question why exclusively rhetorical. Each war (armed conflict) is accompanied by the infliction of information attacks. Therefore, everything is natural.
    1. g1washntwn 4 March 2020 10: 38 New
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      According to Turkish media reports, Assad’s tank division is destroyed there every day.
      What is more striking is that under these cries they justify helping outright terrorists and crawled out of the agreed zone into which they were allowed to actually disarm these gangs, and not vice versa.
      1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 11: 32 New
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        Every day - a dozen tanks, no less.
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          Every day - a dozen tanks, no less.

          Yes, no matter how much. This does not negate the fact that the Turks are not destroying terrorist tanks. With which they must fight according to agreements. And the tanks of those who are just fighting the terrorists. They boast to the whole world that they are fighting shoulder to shoulder together with militants recognized by all (and the UN, by the way terrorists)
      2. Victorio 4 March 2020 13: 10 New
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        Quote: g1washntwn
        According to reports turek media тAm Assad Panzer Division every day destroyed.
        What is more striking is that under these cries they justify helping outright terrorists and crawled out of the agreed zone into which they were allowed to actually disarm these gangs, and not vice versa.

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        Well, Ukrainian comrades also do not skimp:
        \\ The results were announced by the Minister of National Defense of Turkey Hulusi Akar, according to Censor.NET with reference to Ukrinform.

        “Today, as part of the Spring Shield operation, two regime combat aircraft, two drones, eight helicopters, five air defense systems, 135 tanks, 86 guns and howitzers, 16 ATGMs and mortars, 77 armored personnel carrier, nine ammunition depots, as well as 2557 Assad militants, "the minister said. Source: https: //censor.net.ua/n3178985 \\
  16. Gardamir 4 March 2020 10: 41 New
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    Any independent analytic statement is rigidly minuscated. But if you are angry after the line of the "party", then this is called patriotism.
  17. aszzz888 4 March 2020 11: 06 New
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    Perplexed users why did the Turkish military need to carry out such a strange gluing.
    Turkish info war. And for this, all methods are good, including such clumsy gluing.
  18. Torak 4 March 2020 11: 09 New
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    The video is not a shell at all. I won’t be surprised if mock-ups are being made in the territory of Turkey and will continue to be mass-produced and destroyed for the purpose of information war.
  19. Slavs 4 March 2020 11: 13 New
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    The information war ... For lovers of vape, it will come down like that ... For those who think it is necessary to come up with something more interesting.
  20. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 11: 31 New
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    No gluing. The same track.
    First a large zoom, then the usual camera setup.
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      No gluing. The same track.
      First a large zoom, then the usual camera setup.

      There is gluing, in any case - the camera is at a different angle, at the end of the shoot. But about the track, after careful repeated viewing, I’m not so sure anymore - you may be right about the zoom, and the object on both parts of the video is the same.
      1. voyaka uh 4 March 2020 12: 14 New
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        The drone went into a turn, so the camera leaned over. It cannot be completely stabilized in the air.
        1. Dude 4 March 2020 12: 45 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          The drone went into a turn, so the camera leaned over. It cannot be completely stabilized in the air.

          Here, I strongly disagree. 7-8th sec. - simultaneous change of angle. It is not very clear why this gluing was needed, but it is.
        2. Avior 4 March 2020 13: 42 New
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          there is a different sighting mark
          or two different drones, or the mode is switched
          there is a gluing, before the explosion there is a black frame, without an image.
    2. Victorio 4 March 2020 12: 57 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      No gluing. The same track.
      First a large zoom, then the usual camera setup.

      ===
      0: 6 and from 0: 9 sec. Is it the same number of lanes? or do we have different videos?
      1. Amateur 4 March 2020 14: 35 New
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        0: 6 and from 0: 9 sec. Is it the same number of lanes? or do we have different videos?

        You have the same video. You have a different vision. Our Israeli colleague really wants to write at least some muck. But you interfere with him, you want objectivity from him. For a long time it’s time to drive this warrior off the site for fakes and rudeness.
        1. Grits 4 March 2020 15: 56 New
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          Quote: Amateur
          For a long time it’s time to drive this warrior off the site for fakes and rudeness.

          Let me disagree with you. He really, constantly "drowns" for the Jews. But what do you want with an Israeli citizen? And I polemicized with him and molded cons to him mercilessly at times. But sometimes he agreed. Since Voyaka “knows the topic”, he understands, analyzes, reads carefully the media, especially his local one. And it's hard to argue with him. Although I do not like him (apparently because of his citizenship), but he never fell to rudeness.
          1. Amateur 4 March 2020 17: 04 New
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            But what do you want with an Israeli citizen?

            I want Israel and all its citizens to live 10000 years and be healthy. In addition, I want them all to forget the Russian language and not to climb into Russia with their comments and advice. And I also want (but I understand that this is practically unsolvable) so that Messrs. Solovyov, Kedmi, Zhirinovsky, Medvedev (with his wife), Ernst, and all the rest are “God-chosen” who would leave for the promised land.
            But the rest of the Russians, Tatars, Chechens, and even the Chukchi somehow live without their advice.
        2. Victorio 4 March 2020 20: 09 New
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          Quote: Amateur
          For a long time it’s time to drive this warrior off the site for fakes and rudeness.

          ====
          no, much more often he has everything objectively. Well, in this case, something is wrong.
      2. Avior 4 March 2020 19: 56 New
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        At 6 seconds, another track section is shown - only on a bend
        And after the explosion, he is not visible
        Fully visible for a short time at 7 seconds - just before the explosion
        Watch frame by frame
  21. Prahlad 4 March 2020 12: 00 New
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    The carapace has trouble detecting slow targets.
    1. Dude 4 March 2020 12: 53 New
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      The carapace has trouble detecting slow targets.

      Rather, the Arabs have problems with the proper use of the Shell.
  22. Super 4 March 2020 13: 26 New
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    Already dismantled. It was a fake.
    1. Prahlad 4 March 2020 14: 01 New
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      No, this is not a fake. It’s just that the drone changed its angle or there were 2 of them. Of course, the carapace needs to be improved (a problem with slowly flying targets). I hope in the version of "CM" correct
      1. sivuch 4 March 2020 14: 28 New
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        It is a fake. MAN instead of KAMAZ and SOTSKI parabolic antenna instead of a rectangular one at the Shell
        1. Prahlad 4 March 2020 14: 36 New
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          You mixed it up with another video. There really are air defense missile systems Roland
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            So I’m about this. Here MAN, not KAMAZ
  23. ninja 4 March 2020 22: 24 New
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    genuine video
    As for the collision of the machine, everything coincides, just after the explosion the camera angle changes and the angle
    or maybe two clips from different drones
    just watch the beginning and end of the video
    this is how the fragments from the video look
    kolleya, terrain and tree everything is in place

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    As for drones, they work and so far are effective, Russian correspondents themselves confirmed this from the scene of the conflict
    the first video that was uploaded, it appeared with the title from Libya by the author of @clashreport himself, then he was simply transferred to Syria then it was again corrected
    I was interested in why no one tried to take an example of a shell on a BAZ chassis
    it is more suitable than the emirate version may even rollland

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  26. Protos 5 March 2020 14: 11 New
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    Quote: protoss
    how did you put an equal sign between literacy and secularism, why all of a sudden?

    So this is an axiom!
    This is how it works in both Turkey and Syria and India yes

    "Religion is the sigh of an oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of soulless orders. Religion is the opium of the people."
    @ Karl Marx
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    There is no time to search in the comments and paint on a new one, so I’ll throw my own comment made in haste on YouTube under the video.

    "Think correctly, but not in the wrong direction (miss the details).
    Here, the essence is not in the side of the tracks, since it is possible to glue them from 2 drones (suddenly the first UAV was shot down by the "Shell" itself, and the rest of the recording was from a different, and therefore from a different angle), and the bottom line is in the very next.
    So, if the turn of the tracks was observed (right), then they greatly missed the character of the tracks themselves. So, in the first part of the video, it is clearly visible that they are double due to the fact that the machine itself is long-wheelbase and has 4 axes and not 2, as a result of which the front wheel track does not coincide with the rear wheel track (bifurcated, this is clearly visible at the track turn ), but in the second part of the video (where gluing takes place immediately from the explosion, which closes the target itself and does not make out what hit it), the classic track is visible from a 2-axis vehicle with a short or medium base. YES and the trace is less distinct, i.e. the vehicle is clearly lighter than what was in the first part of the video. And it most likely can be a pickup with a machine gun, for example.
    Those. This is a poorly made FAKE. They took 2 videos: the first - with the working "Shell C1" (and not the fact that the drone survived after these frames), and the second with the affected pickup and glued. And the hamsters believed. "