The network discusses the strange gluing of a video of a Turkish UAV strike on a shell of an armor in Syria

After the publication by the Turkish Ministry of Defense of personnel with the destruction of the Pantsir air defense system, the Syrian government forces had many questions. This is a video of a strike with drone on the SAA anti-aircraft missile and gun complex in Idlib.

It can be seen in Turkish shots that the Pantsir ZRPK has traveled to a certain point in the area, leaving behind a wide arcuate track. Then the drone’s camera demonstrates the strike, after which the frames do not show what remains of the air defense system. In addition, the track from the complex does not look at all as it was demonstrated in the first frames.

In other words, there was a strange gluing of two videos. Moreover, these videos were either shot from different drones, or by the same drone, but at different times, from different angles.

The users were puzzled by why the Turkish military needed to carry out such a strange gluing.

One of the questions: was the destruction of the "Shell" with one missile really demonstrated on these frames, or were the frames stuck together by inserting in the second part of the video a video on which the "Shell" was not destroyed at all? In addition, the network is discussing the question of what caused the blow if there was nothing left of the air defense system?

Users who are confident that the same blow is shown in the video believe that "due to the UAV being shot at the camera from different angles, you can see the track before turning the wheels." Those who do not agree with those who believe that the video presents two completely different videos - with hits on different pieces of equipment.

In any case, the important thing in this case is not even the gluing itself, but the fact that Turkey has actually entered a full-fledged war against Syria - a country that is fighting international terrorism.

Comments

[Maz]

A statement was made at the level of the Iranian embassy in Syria, that is, everything is serious.

Among other things, it contains the following words: “We remind the Turkish people that his sons were within the reach of our weapons for a month and we can take revenge. The Iranian government informed Erdogan that we would hit the Turkish targets with all force if the Turkish army continued to bomb our units and the Syrian army ”

[Sarmat Sanych]

Yes, already a couple of days ago, this Turkish nonsense with the video was denied, there were last year's footage from Libya and like shooting two years ago in the SAR, in short, the lame Recepka from the xkhkhlov got infected with the xkhhlizma virus, ziganul "glory to kukarine!", Now his brave media warriors have adopted

[bessmertniy]

Iran is holding a pause. Io is, thinks well before striking.

[cniza]

This is so, but no one has canceled the information war, why no one brings this to the minds of people:

that Turkey has actually entered a full-fledged war against Syria - a country that is fighting international terrorism.

[Sarmat Sanych]

So we did not cancel, although they still did not turn on by 1%. Moreover, Russia has a trump card in comparison with the rest of the world - THE TRUTH IS FOR US. And this truth is often hotter for our opponents than any of their fears.

[Petruha1]

... a strange gluing together of a video of a Turkish UAV strike on a shell of an armor in Syria

Fake news is created by fake people.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Propaganda, it is like a fire - you will not "throw up information firewood", it will quickly come to naught. And if there are not enough firewoods? Well, what would show that they are victorious and everything is okay? It means that the graphics specialists also get down to business!

[Azazelo]

Yes, now Turkey is either a vabank, or then it will have to pay off for helping the bearded. Well, propagandons have already come here. The Syrian army is defeated ... la la la and other nonsense ...

[bessmertniy]

The longer this situation continues, the more Turkey will suffer reputational losses. When unleashing a war against an Arab country, one must understand that there will be volunteers among the Arabs of other countries to "tickle" Turkey. Moreover, the Turks and climbed into Libya.

[bessmertniy]

Alavites there are about 3 million. Plus the Kurds, and the main population of the country is Arab. And the country itself was positioned as a member of the League of Arab countries.

[protoss]

Well, the main Arab population is now either in Turkey itself, or in Syria under Turkey.
so it’s clear to everyone who is fighting with whom, certainly the Arabs.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: protoss

so the war is not against the Arabs, but against the Alawites - these are under-assimilated pagan Aramaeans,

Nevertheless, the Asad family has been at the helm for several decades. The Alawites, unlike the Sunites and Shiites, are less radical and more secular. Therefore, this is a more literate stratum of the population. And by the way, Shiites are more likely to join the Alawites than the Sunnis. So, these two currents considered as one

[protoss]

Alawite rule is a legacy of the French protectorate. before this, this sect did not protrude much.
I don’t understand what the issue of literacy and secularism has to do with it.
the fact that the Iranian ayatollahs called homosexual Aramaeans Shiites did not make them Muslims. this is a purely political issue, the Soviet Union at one time, if necessary, hung the label of socialists and communists on the necessary Aborigines, be they at least for the holidays. The main problem of Panshiism is the reluctance of Azerbaijan to participate in this, without it, a new Safavid state cannot be built, the Ayatollahs understand this, but do not want to accept it, therefore they try to use the ersatz that is at hand, maybe it will. in the end, they will also be left with nothing but the USSR as their world communism ..

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: protoss

I don’t understand what the issue of literacy and secularism has to do with it.

To be a successful leader you need to be a competent and secular politician. Sunites profess a more fundamental Islam. There is already wahhabism on the side. Such a society will be far from a democratic

[protoss]

how did you put an equal sign between literacy and secularism, why all of a sudden?

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Elementary. The more educated the person, the less religious, and therefore the more secular. Take Wahhabism, there are very often dense and uneducated people who blindly believe in the laws of Islam. So many believers that they are ready to cut their throats to those who don’t share his opinion. you can send something to destroy, and not to build.

[protoss]

some nonsense, I'm an atheist, but I don’t think that only because of this I become an educated believer. other parameters make me educated - 5 years of college, for example.
and you knowingly wrote our patriarch Cyril to the ignoramus?
about Wahhabism - this is just one of the directions in Islam, a sectarian direction. His followers in Saudi Arabia are often highly educated people with a British and American education.

[K-50]

Just the Turks decided to wishful thinking.
Here in the "cartoons" and pulled them.

[rocket757]

There is a war, there will be losses ... the end result is important! and even intermediate results are not obvious.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

There is a war, there will be losses ... the end result is important! and even intermediate results are not obvious.

This is inevitable, but it is necessary to minimize them and it is very offensive, for us, I read the conclusion, but here it is fair:

“It seems that Turkey is fighting in Syria according to the rules and regulations of the 21st century, and we were stuck in the 40s of the 20th”

“We are fighting in Syria in the absence of radar control over airspace”
How much can you step on the same rake? It seems, after all, that this is indeed our favorite national fun.

On November 24, 2015, a Turkish F-16 fighter was shot down by a Russian Su-24 front-line bomber. Crew commander Lt. Col. Oleg Peshkov died.

The main reason for this is the lack of radar control of airspace over the war zone, as a result of which the Su-24 crew was not notified of the Turkish F-16 attacking it and did not take defensive measures.

I would like to draw the attention of dear readers that the Turkish Air Force has FOUR E-7T (Boeing 737 AEW & C) airborne early warning and control aircraft (AWACS) and they have the ability to control the airspace of not only Syria, but also the adjacent Middle Eastern and Mediterranean regions.

Unlike the Turkish Air Force, one Russian A-50 type AWACS occasionally appears at the Khmeimim airbase.

[rocket757]

Not everything is as obvious as some write. The facts can be presented in different ways ...

Quote: cniza

“It seems that Turkey is fighting in Syria according to the rules and regulations of the 21st century, and we were stuck in the 40s of the 20th”

It’s complete nonsense, because the POLITICAL DECISION is obviously made not to aggravate! claims can be presented to politicians \ need, and the military carry out the ORDER!
Impossibility \ unwillingness to bring closer the air defense systems and everything necessary for their effective work is closer, i.e. where you need to, is limited to the use of long-range artillery by TURKISH MILITARY ... our air forces that can not translate this artillery into -0-? maybe there is no order! Who gives the most important / main order? certainly not military.
Those. as always, muddy games of politicians ... we have already considered this issue / assumed why they do this.
You can find an answer to any statement that will show this statement in a completely different light ...
I don’t like all this, like most other colleagues, but as I said, the giraffe is big, it sees and acts differently !!! right, not right, let's see.

[cniza]

I really hope that politicians will be rational about their steps ... because the military has an order and they don’t discuss it, and I want them to save their lives in fulfilling it.

[rocket757]

I also hope and really do not want to have victims when they can be avoided ... politics, its core !!!

[huntsman650]

With the beginning of the database, airplanes will fall, this is what the s-4000 is for, and not to knock down the shusharu)

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It is a fact that the Turkish UAV was detected by the Shell Shell, but the Shell, in turn, does not see the UAV, although it can be seen that it works. Yes, and there’s nothing strange in gluing, at first the shooting was from a reconnaissance drone, and then from the one that destroyed the ZRPK
This is a failure and shame on Russian air defense. 10 low-speed drones paralyzed the offensive of the Syrian and Russian army.

[Sofa expert]

Is it really the Russian Federation in Syria? I thought that only the VKS, but we are a whole army there ??

[Gardamir]

The army is not an army, but periodically the marines, sappers, signalmen and all of them were not ten ...

[Sofa expert]

Detachments by detachments, but not the whole army .. If you send the whole army there, then who will protect us?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Is it really the Russian Federation in Syria? I thought that only the VKS, but we are a whole army there ??

Just do not just say now that we have nothing there, we have enough forces there starting from the S-400 and ending with the Su-35.

In Idlib, not the entire Turkish army confronts us, but only a dozen UAVs that we cannot remove from the sky.

[sivuch]

Yes, somewhere under a dozen and shot down

[Sofa expert]

So you yourself said that we have an army there .. I corrected you, our army is watching at home, and the fact that our troops are there, well this is not an army,

[syndicalist]

Can you tell us the number of the army that "watches over our home"?

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

In Idlib, not the entire Turkish army confronts us, but only a dozen UAVs that we cannot remove from the sky.

Change the training manual, otherwise you look stupid. A long time ago, your drones are being knocked down in batches. I also have problems knocking a shushlay at a speed of 200 km per hour

[Dude]

Yes, and there’s nothing strange in gluing, at first the shooting was from a reconnaissance drone, and then from the one that destroyed the ZRPK

Even the number of ruts from the wheels, in the first and second parts of the video - Other. So, the video is, of course, glued together, the cars are different. See with your eyes, not with what you are sitting on.

[Avior]

the same
the track differs only at the turn, and in the second part, because of the explosion, it did not fall on the frame.
on a flat area the same track, this can be seen a second before the explosion

[Victorio]

Quote: Avior

the same
the track differs only at the turn, and in the second part, because of the explosion, it did not fall on the frame.
on a flat area the same track, this can be seen a second before the explosion

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the number of lanes is different. and the hood sticks out at the car (?). however, the question remains, why the drone was not shot down?

[Avior]

I see, they have nominated, either the people really do not see, or do not want to see
glued either from two different drones, or from one, but in different modes, the aiming mark is different.
I think, rather 2 different drone-reconnaissance and strike, the picture quality is different, it seems the cameras are not the same.
However, this could also be due to the flare of the lens by an explosion.
I don’t write anything about the picture after the explosion, it’s difficult to make out there, maybe they finished something there and actually didn’t get there, it can be, and I don’t say that the whole video is real
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I am writing only about a rut; the rut itself is at least the same on the eye, and without serious examination they cannot be distinguished
it is clearly visible for a split second before the explosion - there the scale decreases and the track is visible in a large area, and not just in a bend
comparing the picture at 9 and 7 seconds, three sections can be distinguished — the first one is a little wider, the second one is narrow, the third one is very wide in a turn.
but the third section with a turn after the explosion is not visible, so the wide track is also not visible

maybe this is misleading that the pictures are shown in the article from different sections, and in the video you can choose the moments with the same sections of the track.
look in slow motion exactly the video from the article- if it doesn’t show, use the VPN in the opera-, everything is visible there

[Victorio]

Quote: Avior

but the third section with a turn after the explosion is not visible, so the wide track is also not visible

maybe this is misleading that the pictures are shown in the article from different sections, and in the video you can choose the moments with the same sections of the track.
look in slow motion exactly the video from the article- if it doesn’t show, use the VPN in the opera-, everything is visible there

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there is no such frame on the video in the article as in your second picture (zones 1 and 2).
the track turning radius in the second picture is smaller compared to the radius in the first (the moment of impact and explosion). here the image may be distorted due to a different angle (?).
the cabin is clearly not Kamaz
Well, the last, we will find out when the exact information appears, sooner or later

[Victorio]

Quote: Victorio

track turning radius in the second picture less, in comparison with the radius at the first (moment of impact and explosion).

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to blame - more

[Dude]

the same

Reviewed. It is possible that you are right.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Are you serious?

Turkish UAVs thwarted the offensive of the Syrian army in Idlib, drove them into the burrows, ours pretended that no matter how it concerns Russia, the Turks meanwhile enter the division in Idlib and continue to shoot down planes and destroy ground forces, and you are trying to justify the video of the shell’s defeat? !

If the shells are so good, then why do Turkish UAVs continue to fly in the sky of Syria at home?

[Dude]

Are you serious?

Having carefully reviewed the video, I’m not sure that I correctly estimated the rut. Perhaps at the beginning and at the end of the video, the same machine.

Turkish UAVs thwarted the offensive of the Syrian army in Idlib, drove them into holes

The Turks are shelling Sarakib and Afes, the Syrians are hammering, from everything from which it is possible, according to Sarmin, Kminas, Binnish ... The war, my friend, is in full swing, what kind of "holes" are there?

If the shells are so good, then why do Turkish UAVs continue to fly in the sky of Syria at home?

How many Assad have them? I have not met, in open sources, the number. In addition, the Shell is not a child prodigy, and literate, systemic Air defense, the Syrians, simply, no.

[sivuch]

Do you receive news late for a few days?
Only those who have not yet been shot fly

[IGOR GORDEEV]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

10 low-speed drones paralyzed the offensive of the Syrian and Russian army.

Are there only drones? What about Turkish artillery? Turkish MLRS?

[Sarmat Sanych]

Ratmir_Ryazan, "When you say, Ivan Vasilievich, the impression is that you are delusional"... Do you know that over the past two days the Syrian "Armor" snapped from 5 to 9 Turkish "coolest" drones? If we add to that Libya, where the Haftars destroyed at least 3 Turkish drones in 6 days, then Erdogashki will not have them at such a rate in 2 weeks will remain... Our C1 even amerovskie fancy "tomahawks" in the amount of 73 + 36 pieces knocked down plus several French "Scalp naval", to say nothing of Turkish junk. There is no one in the world to compare with Russian air defense, the rest are lagging behind by a whole generation in all segments of this type of weapon.

[protoss]

and here the figs knows him, the Turks upload at least some video, and only 2 photo confirmations for downed drones. Now that everything is on smartphones and on Twitter, it's weird.

[Sarmat Sanych]

protoss, photos and videos of the downed Turkish unmanned junk - at least eat booty, in Syria or in Libya. Most likely another week - and the Rejepchiks will not have a single "Anki" or "Bayterek", Assad will snap them like seeds. I have said many times, I will repeat once again: the fighters from the Turks (for all their 2nd most powerful NATO army and unlimited human resource) are like a bullet from a ram. In general, it’s time for any enemy in the centuries of confrontation to hack to death: where they fight under the leadership of the Russians, there is always victory for Russia.

[protoss]

not talking about livia, in syria I saw pictures of 2 shot down, for the rest only a statement. this does not mean that they were not shot down, but also not the fact that they were shot down

[Sarmat Sanych]

In Syria, there were at least four photos of different downed Turkish drones only on Sunday-Monday, now apparently ten photos can be found shot down on Tuesday-Wednesday.

[protoss]

can i find? find, pliz, throw it here. I have not found. I see messages about the shot down, no pictures in confirmation.
I saw photos of 2 Turkish and 1 Iranian in recent days.

[Oquzyurd]

Why did you molest this believer? He will not find so many pictures. Are you not enough messages from the nuances?

[tekinoral]

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Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Syrian Armor based on KAMAZ, and on the video - MAN? By the way, another question is MAN with the Shell or Roland.
And paralyzed on

3 destroy drone

[Sarmat Sanych]

In Syria, from no less than 4 (confirmed) to nine. In Libya, six are only from Sunday to Monday. The Turks will soon have nothing except carrier pigeons.

[sivuch]

But nothing that the Syrian Shell on the basis of KAMAZ, and on the video - MAN? By the way, another question is MAN with the Shell or Roland.
And paralyzed for a couple of days - then the drones ran out

[kjhg]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

the Turkish UAV was detected by the Shell Shell, but the Shell, in turn, does not see the UAV, although it is clear that it works

For experts, this is understandable. During the movement of the Carapace, its radar did not work, which allowed the Turkish UAV to approach the Carapace and enter the dead zone for the radar located above it. Then, after stopping our complex and launching its radar, it was destroyed. What solution can be found to prevent a similar incident in the future? It seems to me that they should work, at least in tandem with another of the same complex. While one will change his deployment, the second should stand in combat mode and cover it. Then, the first should do the same. The whole question is whether the Shell in Syria is enough for this.

[K-612-O]

Then where is at least the skeleton from ZRPK? And here is the Russian air defense? Turkey has already lost 9 UAVs, with 6 of the newest and one of the best ANKA-S. Air defense for your information is a built-in system, and not separate complexes. One Shell is not a sword-treasure.

[sivuch]

But this is not a fact - firstly, the base is not KamAZ, but the Manov base and a parabolic antenna, more similar to Roland-2. In any case, this is not the Syrian Shell.

[SSR]

Quote: sivuch

But this is not a fact - firstly, the base is not KamAZ, but the Manov base and a parabolic antenna, more similar to Roland-2. In any case, this is not the Syrian Shell.

The people were told to discuss the track, and now they are discussing the fact that it was not MAN discussing the team))) But the majority is so confident that the drone flew into the dead zone that the UAV could not see the Shell, although almost school model aircraft were shot down over Khmeimim.

[Grits]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

It is a fact that the Turkish UAV was detected by the Shell Shell, but the Shell, in turn, does not see the UAV, although it is clear that it works.

They zaminusuyut the person half to death. But you can’t argue against the facts. And they are like that;
1. Neither the Russian air defense, nor even the Syrian one, has so far solved the problem of drones. And Syrian air defense is Russian technology
2. It seems that indeed our air defense does not see the drone or sees very poorly.
3. The positions of the Turkish artillery by the reconnaissance system (space, aviation and others are not detected.
4. Even if they are detected, they are not destroyed due to the fact that the Turkish is much longer than the Syrian (Russian technology), as well as there are no high-precision ammunition.
5. The Syrian air force does not reach the positions of artillery and the location of Turkish troops and clusters of militants. since the Turks have saturated the battlefield of short-range and medium-range air defense and continue to saturate. And the militants were supplied with MANPADS in sufficient quantities. Our aviation does not fly and does not strike at all. For the same reason.
6. Syrian air defense is instantly destroyed by high-precision ammunition through a bunch of drone-art, as soon as it was noticed or it began to work.
7. Syrian aviation is also under the gun of F-16, barraging on its territory near the border with Syria, and from there they destroy Syrian planes and helicopters.
8. The rampant Russian electronic warfare systems that flooded Khmeimim turned out to be a complete zilch. Since they did absolutely nothing and did not manifest themselves heroically.
9. The Turkish Coral EW systems, which they pulled up, quite effectively counteracted Syrian air defense
10. In the conflict zone fly Turkish reconnaissance aircraft. Ours did not even think about using the A-50. Perhaps they understand that they are simply useless against drones and for reconnaissance and target designation of the location of the Tureks.
This is the result of a modern and high-tech war. Unfortunately, this is the opposite.

[Thompson]

Show the shell on the video! Above you have already chewed everything that they do not smell there. and how they work at our base, too, explained.

[Karislav]

Well, do not be stupid !!! s1 is .. one and the same ... Assad dumbfounded the Turks that's all ... and not only Assad

[Hagalaz]

Somehow, please streamline the stream of consciousness.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Karislav, shook it? Take off your pants

[sivuch]

answered above. This is not Assad or Haftar or even a fake, which is more likely

[McDonnell Douglas]

Whoever you lead with is what you need.
Countries like Server Korea, states and now Turkey have taken over the baton of military animation from us

[Sarmat Sanych]

McDonnell Douglas, if by the word "us" you mean your Outskirts - then everything is correct. But Russia does not suffer from such garbage, we show what we invariably confirm in stock, in service and in action with the results of this action. Unlike mattresses, geyropeytsev, Chinese, Turks and other hhhlov.

[McDonnell Douglas]

Sarmat Sanych or Obolon Aleksandrovich - be honest, there’s nothing to answer?

But Russia does not suffer from such garbage, we show what we invariably confirm in stock, in service and in action with the results of this action.

Why not just admit your wrong?
Yes, they say so and so, all the fakes are spreading, including Russia, was not right above, I apologize.

[Sarmat Sanych]

See Douglas, you don't change the tradition of dipping yourself in uncleanliness. Do not be so upset, everyone has their own destiny. And yes, the only controversial episode in comparison with hundreds of mattress fakes is nothing, not even a discussion. However, Russia is really waiting for this western disgrace to apologize to us and come with a petition. It will be useful even for them, believe the guys. It is also worthwhile to apologize to the domestic specialized media such as jellyfish, tape, the new toilet newspaper and other /// dei - they have accumulated fakes over the years in a million numbers. As you know, the sword cannot be blamed on the guilty head, so Russia will forgive everything after a little flogging.

[McDonnell Douglas]

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on November 14, 2017, published in its twitter "undeniable confirmation of the United States providing cover for combat-ready ISIS units" - a series of black and white photos. The pictures, the Ministry of Defense said, were taken on November 9 in the vicinity of the city of Abu Kemal in Syria.
Then these pictures were deleted, as they were screenshots from a computer game.
The Internet will help you to familiarize yourself with this information.

[Guru]

McDonnell Douglas
I can also register under the nickname "Ministry of Defense."
Never! I repeat NEVER The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation DOES NOT PUBLISH footage from computer games, but Americans were caught on this more than once.
IMHO
And let me be minded

[Mimoprohodil]

Quote: Guru

I can also register under the nickname "Ministry of Defense."

And to get a checkmark on the official page? The official website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation mil.ru shows the official pages on social networks, for example, facebook https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus. This fake remained there

[Tuesday]

This is called discrediting from within. One of the most promising areas of information warfare. Column 5 is working. Remember when the official reports of the Ministry of Defense on our ISIS attacks regularly poked American pictures? And when, during the exercises, our soldiers allegedly got lost and crossed the Ukrainian border and when checking it turned out that this was meticulously rigged by the liberal authorities? From the same opera! More will come next!

[sivuch]

Server Korea!?

[rocket757]

I somehow remember that the cartoons that drew the minke whales when they bred everyone with their advertising for the SOI program had been around for a long time .... so there was no need to teach them this, the "animators" themselves were still the same. By the way, there are more than enough episodes of this kind, if you look carefully.

[McDonnell Douglas]

Piglet T9

[Amateur]

The last war in which the Turkish army took part was "The War of Independence of Turkey in 1919-1923. It was led by Mustafa Kemal, who united national forces against the occupiers who captured a significant part of the country." Since then, the army has not fought for almost 100 years. (police operations against the Kurds do not count). After the attempted coup in 2016, Erdogan imprisoned and expelled almost all the leadership of the army. As a result, not the most experienced but the most loyal are in command. It is somewhat reminiscent of the Soviet-Finnish war of 1939-1940 with terrible losses on the Soviet side. In addition, Turkey is trying to wage war on 3 fronts - Syria, Libya and the Kurds inside and on the borders of the country. No NATO will stand up for Erdogan, because no one will fight with Russia for the Ottoman Empire. In the worst case, they will add some more sanctions. The Turkish soldiers have no ideological incentives. But since "The East is a delicate matter," then the GDP must come up with such a move so that Erdogan would end the war, while "saving face" and the opportunity to declare at all public events that he "won a great victory."
Or, as an alternative, so embed the Turkish army that the Turks themselves will remove Erdogan.

[K-612-O]

Turkey's last war was in Cyprus

[Amateur]

Turkey's last war was in Cyprus

Sorry, and who fought with whom?

[K-612-O]

Greece, Cyprus and Turkey

[Krasnodar]

Quote: K-612-O

Greece, Cyprus and Turkey

Greece “participated” there. Their Phantoms were deployed by the Americans, who did not allow the attack of the Air Force of one NATO country by the Navy of another.

[Amateur]

When it happened

Paphos naval battle (July 21, 1974) - a battle between the Turkish fleet and Turkish aviation, provoked by the actions of the Greek large landing ship "Lesvos" (L-172) and the work of Cypriot intelligence

[Serwid]

Quote: Amateur

The last war in which the Turkish army took part was "The War of Independence of Turkey in 1919-1923.

I say the same thing. The Saudis on paper are just as fucking cool, but in fact, the Hussites beat them. Once again, the Turks should not be underestimated, but it is also not necessary to overestimate.

[Grits]

Quote: Amateur

Or, as an alternative, so embed the Turkish army that the Turks themselves will remove Erdogan.

If you can vote, then I am for this option!

[Retvizan 8]

Unambiguous installation and very clumsy.

[serzh.kost]

in the meantime, the undersultan received another gift in Libya:

Haftar troops inflicted a powerful blow at Mitig Airport in Tripoli.
The declared destruction of the Turkish air defense system "Hok" (one such system was destroyed a few days ago), an ammunition depot, several Turkish armored vehicles and "great loss of people."
The attack was deliberately targeted at a Turkish base deployed right at the airport, from where Turkey uses UAVs. Judging by the fires, airfield hangars and temporary barracks are burning.
According to the statements of the LNA command, attacks on Mitig and the Turks are carried out because they turned the airport into a base of international terrorism, with which the activities of armed gangs and terrorist organizations in Tripolitania are supported.
The Egyptian Foreign Ministry also accused Turkey of supporting terrorism in Libya, directly stating that it was Turkey’s intervention that made Libya the center of the spread of international terrorism.

[Souchastnik]

1. A closer look at the first roller shows the track of a multi-axis machine, with rotating wheels on each axis. On the second roller track, most likely from a light car. The track is slightly different.
2. After hitting a means of destruction in a cloud of smoke, the struck target is practically invisible. Even with scaling, the "Carapace" should be visible. it was either annihilated with some kind of superweapon, or the affected object was significantly smaller. And most likely some fragments of the struck target should scatter. But this is not visible. The fragment of the shooting was somehow well chosen. So, in my opinion, the video is nothing more than an explosion. Well, maybe they hit a pickup truck.

[Avior]

the track is the same
this can be seen in a flat area a second before the explosion, a wide track on a bend.
in the second part, not only the Shell, but also the wide track at the turn is not visible due to the explosion
why did the installation of the video do, I don’t know.

[maksbazhin]

Where are the remains of the shell?

[Simargl]

Quote: maksbazhin

Where are the remains of the shell?

Annihilated by weapons on new physical principles.

[Anton Sokolov]

damn, well, for any after the explosion there should have been a twisted pile of iron, and then it evaporated. This can not be ....... like gluing.

[Dmitry Zverev]

Naturally, installation. And the drones are different and the goals are different. Destruction of a pickup truck is shown for sure. The other thing is unpleasant - the UAV hangs, the armor is in a combat position, the antenna is spinning, but the crew does not see a dangerous target. Someone smoking is standing next to the car. Almost the same thing when the Israeli Spike NLOS rocket hit armor c1. There, in general, the crew stood at a distance from the car; no one at all watched the air situation. A single air defense machine is always an easy target, there should be several anti-aircraft systems and they should cover each other. Always someone should be in readiness number 1.

[kjhg]

Quote: Dmitry Zverev

Another thing is unpleasant - the drone hangs, the armor is in a combat position, the antenna is spinning, but the crew does not see a dangerous target

There are just no questions, the drone is in the dead zone of the Shell radar.

[Dmitry Zverev]

Then, all the more, the adjacent vehicle should control the dead zone, and a single vehicle should not be put forward into the combat zone. When will the Syrian command begin to act competently?

[sivuch]

And where does the Syrian command (if we are talking about the last video)?
In SOTski Shell, by the way, Dmin = 1km. (At Thor, if anyone is interested -3 km)

[Victorio]

Quote: kjhg

Quote: Dmitry Zverev

Another thing is unpleasant - the drone hangs, the armor is in a combat position, the antenna is spinning, but the crew does not see a dangerous target

There are just no questions, the drone is in the dead zone of the Shell radar.

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but how much is his zone, somewhere he saw the figure of 15 degrees, the drone has a clearly larger angle, are there automatic machines for what?

[Slavs]

Quote: Dmitry Zverev

There, in general, the crew stood at a distance from the car; no one at all watched the air situation.

If I’m not mistaken, then it was clear from the photo that the BC was shot at the Shell ... If I don’t confuse the events that you mention ...

[rotmistr60]

why did the Turkish military need to carry out such a strange gluing

Question why exclusively rhetorical. Each war (armed conflict) is accompanied by the infliction of information attacks. Therefore, everything is natural.

[g1washntwn]

According to Turkish media reports, Assad’s tank division is destroyed there every day.
What is more striking is that under these cries they justify helping outright terrorists and crawled out of the agreed zone into which they were allowed to actually disarm these gangs, and not vice versa.

[voyaka uh]

Every day - a dozen tanks, no less.

[Grits]

Quote: voyaka uh

Every day - a dozen tanks, no less.

Yes, no matter how much. This does not negate the fact that the Turks are not destroying terrorist tanks. With which they must fight according to agreements. And the tanks of those who are just fighting the terrorists. They boast to the whole world that they are fighting shoulder to shoulder together with militants recognized by all (and the UN, by the way terrorists)

[Victorio]

Quote: g1washntwn

According to reports turek media тAm Assad Panzer Division every day destroyed.
What is more striking is that under these cries they justify helping outright terrorists and crawled out of the agreed zone into which they were allowed to actually disarm these gangs, and not vice versa.

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Well, Ukrainian comrades also do not skimp:
\\ The results were announced by Turkish Minister of National Defense Hulusi Akar, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.

"To date, within the framework of Operation Spring Shield, two combat aircraft of the regime, two unmanned aerial vehicles, eight helicopters, five air defense systems, 135 tanks, 86 guns and howitzers, 16 ATGMs and mortars, 77 armored personnel carrier, nine ammunition depots, as well as 2557 militants of the Assad regime, "the minister said. Source: https: //censor.net.ua/n3178985 \\

[Gardamir]

Any independent analytical statement is severely minus. But if you bend after the line of the "party", then this is called patriotism.

[aszzz888]

Perplexed users why did the Turkish military need to carry out such a strange gluing.

Turkish info war. And for this, all methods are good, including such clumsy gluing.

[Tuesday]

The video is not a shell at all. I won’t be surprised if mock-ups are being made in the territory of Turkey and will continue to be mass-produced and destroyed for the purpose of information war.

[Slavs]

The information war ... For lovers of vape, it will come down like that ... For those who think it is necessary to come up with something more interesting.

[voyaka uh]

No gluing. The same track.
First a large zoom, then the usual camera setup.

[Dude]

Quote: voyaka uh

No gluing. The same track.
First a large zoom, then the usual camera setup.

There is gluing, in any case - the camera is at a different angle, at the end of the shoot. But about the track, after careful repeated viewing, I’m not so sure anymore - you may be right about the zoom, and the object on both parts of the video is the same.

[voyaka uh]

The drone went into a turn, so the camera leaned over. It cannot be completely stabilized in the air.

[Dude]

Quote: voyaka uh

The drone went into a turn, so the camera leaned over. It cannot be completely stabilized in the air.

Here, I strongly disagree. 7-8th sec. - simultaneous change of angle. It is not very clear why this gluing was needed, but it is.

[Avior]

there is a different sighting mark
or two different drones, or the mode is switched
there is a gluing, before the explosion there is a black frame, without an image.

[Victorio]

Quote: voyaka uh

No gluing. The same track.
First a large zoom, then the usual camera setup.

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0: 6 and from 0: 9 sec. Is it the same number of lanes? or do we have different videos?

[Amateur]

0: 6 and from 0: 9 sec. Is it the same number of lanes? or do we have different videos?

You have the same video. You have a different vision. Our Israeli colleague really wants to write at least some muck. But you interfere with him, you want objectivity from him. For a long time it’s time to drive this warrior off the site for fakes and rudeness.

[Grits]

Quote: Amateur

For a long time it’s time to drive this warrior off the site for fakes and rudeness.

Let me disagree with you. He really, constantly "drowns" for the Jews. But what do you want with an Israeli citizen? And I polemicized with him and sometimes mercilessly sculpted minuses for him. But sometimes he agreed. Since Voyaka "knows the topic", he understands well, analyzes, reads carefully the media, especially his local one. And it's hard to argue with him. Although I dislike him (apparently because of his citizenship), he never stooped to rudeness.

[Amateur]

But what do you want with an Israeli citizen?

I want Israel and all its citizens to live for 10000 years and to be healthy. In addition, I want them all to forget the Russian language and not go to Russia with their comments and advice. And I also want (but I understand that it is practically impossible to solve) that the following gentlemen would go to the promised land: Soloviev, Kedmi, Zhirinovsky, Medvedev (together with his wife), Ernst, and all the other "God's chosen".
But the rest of the Russians, Tatars, Chechens, and even the Chukchi somehow live without their advice.

[Victorio]

Quote: Amateur

For a long time it’s time to drive this warrior off the site for fakes and rudeness.

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no, much more often he has everything objectively. Well, in this case, something is wrong.

[Avior]

At 6 seconds, another track section is shown - only on a bend
And after the explosion, he is not visible
Fully visible for a short time at 7 seconds - just before the explosion
Watch frame by frame

[Prahlad]

The carapace has trouble detecting slow targets.

[Dude]

Quote: Prahlad

The carapace has trouble detecting slow targets.

Rather, the Arabs have problems with the proper use of the Shell.

[Super]

Already dismantled. It was a fake.

[Prahlad]

No, this is not a fake. It's just that the drone changed the angle or there were 2 of them. The carapace must of course be improved (a problem with slow flying targets). Hopefully in the "CM" version they will correct

[sivuch]

It is a fake. MAN instead of KAMAZ and SOTSKI parabolic antenna instead of a rectangular one at the Shell

[Prahlad]

You mixed it up with another video. There really are air defense missile systems Roland

Turkish Ministry of Defense released the video, which showing Strike on SAAs ADS Pantsir-S1 in Idlib.# Syria #Idlib #Turkey #TurkishArmy #SAA #SyrianArmy #syrianarabarmy #pantsir #carapace pic.twitter.com/MkBteyZDSc

- The Dead District (@TheDeadDistrict) February 28, 2020

[sivuch]

So I’m about this. Here MAN, not KAMAZ

[ninja]

genuine video
As for the collision of the machine, everything coincides, just after the explosion the camera angle changes and the angle
or maybe two clips from different drones
just watch the beginning and end of the video
this is how the fragments from the video look
kolleya, terrain and tree everything is in place

[ninja]

As for drones, they work and so far are effective, Russian correspondents themselves confirmed this from the scene of the conflict
the first video that was uploaded, it appeared with the title from Libya by the author of @clashreport himself, then he was simply transferred to Syria then it was again corrected
I was interested in why no one tried to take an example of a shell on a BAZ chassis
it is more suitable than the emirate version may even rollland

[Protos]

Quote: protoss

how did you put an equal sign between literacy and secularism, why all of a sudden?

So this is an axiom!
This is how it works in both Turkey and Syria and India

"Religion is the sigh of an oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a soulless order. Religion is the opium of the people."
@ Karl Marx

[Nosgoth]

There is no time to search in the comments and paint on a new one, so I’ll throw my own comment made in haste on YouTube under the video.

"Think right, but wrong (omitting details).
Here the point is not in the direction of traces, since you can make a gluing from 2 drones (suddenly the first UAV was shot down by the "Pantsir" itself, and the rest of the recording was already from another, and therefore from a different angle), but the ESSENCE is in the TRACE itself.
So, if the turn of the tracks was observed (right), then they greatly missed the character of the tracks themselves. So, in the first part of the video, it is clearly visible that they are double due to the fact that the machine itself is long-wheelbase and has 4 axes and not 2, as a result of which the front wheel track does not coincide with the rear wheel track (bifurcated, this is clearly visible at the track turn ), but in the second part of the video (where gluing takes place immediately from the explosion, which closes the target itself and does not make out what hit it), the classic track is visible from a 2-axis vehicle with a short or medium base. YES and the trace is less distinct, i.e. the vehicle is clearly lighter than what was in the first part of the video. And it most likely can be a pickup with a machine gun, for example.
Those. it's a badly done FAKE. We took 2 videos: the first - with the working "Shell C1" (and not the fact that the drone survived after these frames), and the second with the affected pickup and glued. And the hamsters believed. "