In Poland, found a way to supply American oil to Belarus by reverse


Pern, the operator of the Polish section of the Druzhba oil pipeline, was looking for a contractor who could set up part of the pipeline for reverse operation. This is done in order to organize the supply to Belarus of oil from the United States, which enters the Polish city of Gdansk.


Now, on the Adamovo (Belarusian border) - Plock - Gdansk section, reverse is possible only on the Plock - Gdansk section, but Perl is working on the possibility of reversing over the entire section from the Baltic coast to the Belarusian border. When this task is solved, it will be possible to receive tankers with American oil in Gdansk and send it through the pipeline to Belarus.

This Polish initiative was warmly supported by Minsk.

Shortly before that, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo expressed his readiness to fully meet the needs of Belarus in crude oil with American supplies:

We are the largest energy producer in the world. And all you need is to tell us and contact us.

President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said that if he could not agree with Moscow, he would look for an alternative to Russian crude oil supplies. Various options were considered, including deliveries by reverse through the Druzhba pipeline from Gdansk of American and Saudi raw materials.
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  1. Svarog 2 March 2020 13: 53 New
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    In Poland, found a way to supply American oil to Belarus by reverse

    This Polish initiative was warmly supported by Minsk.

    The Old Man is moving in the wrong direction .. Integration with Poland is obtained yes with Europe .. but not with Russia .. The foreign policy of Russia in its inefficiency began to catch up with the domestic ..
    1. Malyuta 2 March 2020 14: 02 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      Integration with Poland turns out yes with Europe .. but not with Russia in any way .. The foreign policy of Russia in its inefficiency began to catch up with the domestic ..

      If the Russian Federation and its power will repel all the former republics of the USSR, then we will not only have no allies, but more enemies.
      All questions to our comprador power and the oligarchy.
      1. Alexga 2 March 2020 14: 06 New
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        And the question was because of a bonus to oil workers in the amount of 10 US rubles, Gutseriev does not require payment of a premium, a contract has been concluded with him.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke 2 March 2020 14: 16 New
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          Quote: AlexGa
          And the question was because of a bonus to oil workers in the amount of 10 US rubles, Gutseriev does not require payment of a premium, a contract has been concluded with him.

          Offshore awards are more valuable to someone than the interests of both the country and the CIS.
          Dad would have to raise the issue of bonuses louder, so that here they begin to understand the essence.
          1. Alexga 2 March 2020 14: 26 New
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            It seems that few here know what caused the problem with the purchase of oil. Or maybe they specifically include durkee.
          2. Malyuta 2 March 2020 14: 50 New
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            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            Dad would have to raise the issue of bonuses louder, so that here they begin to understand the essence.

            But the local breeders do not care, do not say, they are all God's dew. They hear only what they want to hear. I’ll post the video about Rosneft’s prices in Kazakhstan 2 times, maybe it will reach at least something.
            1. Labeanov 2 March 2020 15: 40 New
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              This is Kazakhstan gasoline. Produced from Kazakhstan oil at a Kazakhstan oil refinery. Gazpromneft is just selling.
              1. Grad-Xnumx 2 March 2020 16: 02 New
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                Kazakhstani oil is not refined in Kazakhstan because factories under the USSR were built to process Siberian oil. Therefore, when part of the refinery’s cleaning in summer, it is undergoing maintenance because the Russian Federation stops deliveries to the refinery during the cleaning period. Terrible own oil is sold abroad, and for their refineries they are buying oil in the Russian Federation. For 30 years, at Nazik, they could not build refineries for the processing of their own oil.
                1. Labeanov 2 March 2020 16: 38 New
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                  Pavlodar may still be taking oil from the Russian Federation, but the Atyrau and Shymkent refineries by no means corresponded to sight oil with local at hand.
                  "" In 2019, Kazakhstan produced 90,4 million tons of oil, including gas condensate. At the same time, 12,6 million tons of oil products were produced with a domestic market demand of 12 million tons. Surpluses were sent for export abroad "" [
                  1. Labeanov 2 March 2020 16: 38 New
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                    T9 tortured))
                  2. Grad-Xnumx 2 March 2020 17: 37 New
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                    This is statistics, one of the varieties of lies in Kazakhstan. Total produced by all 3 plants per year, at the time of peak demand in the fall and spring, there is a shortage of fuel in the oil country of Kazakhstan. Well, as a result, price increases.
                2. Zoldat_A 2 March 2020 23: 09 New
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                  Quote: Grad-1
                  For 30 years, at Nazik, they could not build refineries for the processing of their own oil.

                  A lot of things have not been built.

                  In the very very beginning of the 90s, the Austrians sold Kazakhstan an enamel wire production line. The Russians mounted, the installation was controlled by the Austrians (in my opinion, in Chimkent, but I could be wrong). Then the Russians were kicked out, the Kazakhs launched. The line drove the marriage. The Austrians tell them that the line drives a non-standard, that no one will buy this enameled wire for transformers from them, because it does not meet the European standard. So the Kazakhs calmly answered them that they will introduce their own, the Kazakh standard and everything will be fine.

                  The story is real, my mother was an interpreter for these Austrians when they worked here in Russia. The Austrians themselves, laughing, and told.

                  And you say: "refinery" .....
              2. Caretaker 2 March 2020 20: 04 New
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                Quote: Labeanov
                Gazpromneft is just selling.

                Why not sell the surplus in the Russian Federation?
        2. Malyuta 2 March 2020 14: 27 New
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          Quote: AlexGa
          And the question was because of a bonus to oil workers in the amount of 10 US rubles, Gutseriev does not require payment of a premium, a contract has been concluded with him.

          Absolutely right! Our oil producers, suddenly came up with the idea that the oil does not belong to backgammon, but to them personally, so they tear three skins on the domestic market, but they also want to tear the Belarusians, am the Old Man and the Belarusians against.
          1. Lopatov 2 March 2020 15: 22 New
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            Quote: Malyuta
            that oil does not belong to backgammon

            Oil belongs to the people when in the bowels.

            And when a person is convinced that what he has done is actually general, already looks like an attempt at robbery.
            1. Malyuta 2 March 2020 22: 37 New
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              Quote: Spade
              Oil belongs to the people when in the bowels.

              This is a trick of the thimbles, I twist the twist I want to confuse everyone. It was yours, it became ours, you see, because according to the constitution, the bowels of the people are popular, but the hocus pocus, I dug with a shovel, something was drenched, but this is not bowels, but our gesheft.
              Quote: Spade
              And when a person is convinced that what he has done is actually general, already looks like an attempt at robbery.

              Of course, I apologize, but you have accumulated nonsense, I hope that from the fact that you are mistaken.
              Hence the question, show us. the very person who makes oil !? and we will nominate you for the most important prize in our galaxy.
              1. Lopatov 2 March 2020 23: 32 New
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                Quote: Malyuta
                After all, according to the constitution, the bowels of the people are popular, but the hocus pocus, he dug with a shovel, something was drenched, but this is not bowels, but our gesheft.

                No.
                This is the product of your work. And for its legality, you pay a tax on mining. Well, and other payments for subsoil use

                And when after that they tell you “you worked, you paid, it doesn’t matter, take a walk, Vasya, this is ours, we’re narot” You don’t understand this, to put it mildly. And run the statement to write screaming "rob" ...

                Quote: Malyuta
                Of course, I apologize, but you have accumulated nonsense, I hope that from the fact that you are mistaken.

                I'm wildly sorry. Are you sure that the rolls grow on trees?

                You decided to make a well at your dacha. We designed everything as it should, paid for drilling, paid for the pump, paid for other fittings .... And then such specific ... summer residents say. "Hear, bro, the bowels of the people, because this water is not yours, but common. We’ll bump into the pipe tomorrow. And pay for the electricity for the pump yourself, dear man, the pump is not people's, but yours ..."

                And you simply have to agree with the national requirements.
                1. Malyuta 2 March 2020 23: 58 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  You decided to make a well for yourself in the country

                  Let me disagree with the "cottage" example. hi In order to get water on our
                  You give, you need the necessary condition, the presence of an aquifer under it. And the second moment, we can’t buy half the country to look for oil there. And now the main thing, even if my political preferences (I am a supporter of socialism) are discarded, then how national wealth can fall into the hands of a private trader, and even more so a private trader of a foreign one, I am told that people, for example, can conclude a contract with a private trader, for example. for 3% of it they’ve beaten and the private trader is already squealing with happiness, but giving the subsoil to the private trader on incomprehensible and sometimes enslaving conditions is excuse me at least stupid. In addition, there is the experience of other oil-producing countries in the social orientation of the distribution of income from oil sold. hi
          2. tihonmarine 2 March 2020 15: 41 New
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            Quote: Malyuta
            Our oil producers suddenly came up with the idea that oil does not belong to backgammon, but to them personally

            Capitalism, profit to the capitalist, people all that remains.
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke 2 March 2020 16: 14 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              Capitalism, profit to the capitalist, people all that remains.

              “Our” capitalist has little official profit, he also has offshore kickbacks in the form of
              Bonuses in excess of European prices are needed. Lukashenko directly and on camera, this is voiced with numbers; The Russian oligarchy is forcing not only the media, but also the authorities to remain silent.
          3. Cheerock 2 March 2020 17: 12 New
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            Quote: Malyuta
            Our oil producers suddenly came up with the idea that oil does not belong to backgammon, but to them personally

            Read the Constitution. She has long been not the one she was.
          4. Whalebone 2 March 2020 23: 12 New
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            Remind me what is the main name for oil in the Russian Federation? With him, and demand.
      2. Amateur 2 March 2020 14: 12 New
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        then we will not only have no allies, but more enemies.

        God save me from friends, and I myself will be saved from enemies.
        (J. Rodari)

        Why Russia should be friends with everyone. Better let the neighbors be friends with Russia.
        Well, A.G. Lukashenko can carry Amer’s oil through Poland, but also by plane directly from Saudi Arabia. (if he has enough money).
        Soup in a saucepan directly on the boat came from Paris; open the lid - steam, which like this can not be found in nature. (I.A. Khlestakov, Dead Souls)
        1. Malyuta 2 March 2020 14: 48 New
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          Quote: Amateur
          Why Russia should be friends with everyone. Better let the neighbors be friends with Russia.

          And why is the Russian Federation so attractive that it will turn out to be friends? What do we have so that everyone can envy, maybe the standard of living? Maybe salary? Maybe infrastructure? Or maybe we have a breakthrough in science and technology? Who else needs all this besides us, and that is only because they were brought up in the USSR, and young people already have 60% skiing, and this is not what I say, but the pro-Kremlin VTsIOM.
          1. tihonmarine 2 March 2020 15: 45 New
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            Quote: Malyuta
            What do we have so that everyone envy, maybe the standard of living?

            Top managers, the most efficient in the world, and the most oligarchs, with the most modern yachts in the world.
        2. Vladimir B. 2 March 2020 15: 22 New
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          Quote: Amateur
          Why Russia should be friends with everyone. Better let the neighbors be friends with Russia.
          Well, A.G. Lukashenko can carry Amer’s oil through Poland, but also by plane directly from Saudi Arabia. (if he has enough money).

          I fundamentally disagree with you. Unfortunately, we lost Ukraine, our historical homeland. in our fraternal Ukraine, fascists rage. Belarus is next in turn. lose Belarus, then what will we lose? Velikiy Novgorod? Siberia? Ural? with this approach, let our neighbors be friends with us, we will have no friends at all. Following the termination of friendship, our enemies will appear in Belarus, and we will chorus in shout that our brothers Belarusians betrayed us. it is not right. if politicians cannot agree among themselves, please note the politicians of the fraternal countries, let my words sound pathetic, but then you need to change politicians.
          1. Amateur 2 March 2020 15: 40 New
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            Unfortunately, we lost Ukraine, our historical homeland. in our fraternal Ukraine, fascists rage.

            Ukraine is an independent state. If its leaders are looking for cookies, and the people for lace shorts, then what does Russia have to do with it? She must feed everyone again. Russia has its own problems and deeds. And let the Belarussian people think that friendship and a joint economy with Russia or the US-Polish German troops in Belarus are most important for him, just because the old man's roof went off.
            1. Fishery 3 March 2020 18: 22 New
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              when when you go to war as a war from Moscow to Novgorod, the rhetoric will be the same with such a policy)))))))))
          2. tihonmarine 2 March 2020 15: 47 New
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            Quote: Vladimir B.
            if politicians cannot agree among themselves, please note the policies of fraternal countries

            So far, there has not been such a thing that politicians have ever agreed.
          3. Fishery 2 March 2020 18: 26 New
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            But what if the insults are constantly towards the former republics? only in Russia, all the white beautiful elves who are prevented from living by Ukrainians, Bulbashs, Poles, Euro gays))) so let it live alone in the ring of NATO bases
            1. mordor 3 March 2020 18: 19 New
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              And is it not the other way around, in my opinion in Ukraine, not only from every iron, but from every hole in the wattle fence, insults sound, the Baltic States are constantly screaming, demanding something, Poland, But father’s full mouth, money and discounts are not enough for him, Romania runs into a camp, aching in Bulgaria, continue? So, read more news, rather than listen on the bench.
              1. Fishery 3 March 2020 18: 21 New
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                this is a consequence of the lack of soft power in the Russian Federation, unlike you, I lived everywhere except the Baltic states, the states like to be afraid and afraid, they are trying to borrow a way of life, and what the modern RF can offer, the USSR is no longer unfortunately, there is no commonality, idea and image life is more attractive in the same Poland.
        3. Lopatov 2 March 2020 15: 23 New
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          Quote: Amateur
          Well, A.G. Lukashenko can carry Amer’s oil through Poland, but also by plane directly from Saudi Arabia. (if he has enough money).

          This is not the first time that he has fumbled with such nonsense. True, it used to be Venezuelan.

          And the result will be the same.
        4. Anwar-oglu 2 March 2020 17: 56 New
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          am am miracle! Patriotism is buzzing and even Veri, but you need to know the classics. Gogol swearing in a coffin .... Where is Khlestakov wound up in dead souls?
          Yudo ... where the auditor is, where are the dead souls ...
          Child Unified State Exam ...
          1. Amateur 2 March 2020 18: 25 New
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            To blame! This is the "Examiner." In general, as in the classics about Lieutenant Rzhevsky: "Sorry Mademoiselle! ... (nonsense) I argued with"
        5. Caretaker 2 March 2020 20: 16 New
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          Quote: Amateur
          Well, A.G. Lukashenko can carry Amer’s oil through Poland, but also by plane directly from Saudi Arabia. (if he has enough money).

          Six Russian companies are ready to supply oil on mutually beneficial conditions. Let's see which route? Perhaps the monopolists who are sitting on the pipe will be able to block oil supplies from the Russian Federation and they will have to drive Russian oil through Poland? How is such a prospect for you?
          Which group of Russian companies do you support, stubborn or pragmatic?
      3. Olgovich 2 March 2020 14: 12 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        If the Russian Federation and its power will repel all the former republics of the USSR, then we will not only have no allies, but more enemies.

        Do not push away Old Man and donate to him part of the monthly income. HIS

        But Russia needs to FAVORABLY trade, and not give away its resources, and it is still unknown why.

        Amer oil is more expensive than Russian a priori, let it buy, let's see HOW it will live!
        1. Malyuta 2 March 2020 22: 57 New
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          Quote: Olgovich
          Do not push away Old Man and donate to him part of the monthly income. HIS

          These incomes do not belong to you, I do not belong to; officials and oligarchs will not fill their throats in any way.
          Quote: Olgovich
          But Russia needs to FAVORABLY trade, and not give away its resources, and it is still unknown why.

          We have nothing to give away, everything has been stolen and wasted away on offshore accounts, there’s not much need to trade crude oil.
      4. Svarog 2 March 2020 14: 14 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        If the Russian Federation and its power will repel all the former republics of the USSR, then we will not only have no allies, but more enemies.

        So that's the point .. Efficiency, in all areas, is determined by the result .. In our case, we have a clearly negative result in foreign policy .. namely, Ukraine, and now Belarus, drift into the enemy’s camp. Why this happens is a separate question for the whole article .. But the fact remains. My opinion is that Russia does not very effectively distribute its investments. For subsidies, discounts, loans are all investments. Here we take Turkey and Ukraine .. How many total swelled to Turkey? Moreover, all these investments are extremely dangerous .. how much money is spent in Syria .. for this money, it would be possible to carry out a military operation and demolish Natsik in Ukraine, while Erdogash would not have to lay a pipe .. build a nuclear power plant and supply C 400. As a result, we would have a 40 ml market. a person, a friendly state on its borders and a lot of money saved ...
        This is, if very briefly .. in fact, there would be much more benefit ..
        You need to correctly sell your loans, investments, subsidies .. Do you want to receive no question, we need a pro-Russian party in your parliament .. and so on ..
        It is impossible to gain allies without giving anything in return. And in order to be a leader in this alliance, one must also propose an idea where the benefit will be obvious to everyone and show the result by example. And what example and result now shows Russia?
        1. torp 2 March 2020 15: 01 New
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          The Old Man will not drift anywhere, he is not stupid, he will pant and buy oil from
          Of Russia.
        2. Whalebone 2 March 2020 15: 02 New
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          After a military operation outside Ukraine, there would be a mountain of corpses, partisans in the west, as well as a disabled swift and oil embargo, and not 40 million grateful Ukrainians, do not fatazy.
          Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan - it is necessary to feed and educate. When affectionately, when tougher, but with money. Attract elites (especially potential ones) to the mainstream of integration, conduct propaganda that together we are stronger. Foreign policy is not only blackmail by trumpet and money (I pay you, I have you), it is much more complicated and subtle. There should be a model of the Russian Federation, which they would like to repeat at home, with our help.
          Why did Papa send Babich? Because he, having arrived in Minsk exactly from Nizhny Novgorod (where he landed the mayor for 10 years, is clean in patsansky style, because of the show-off, the train was sucked out of his finger), he decided that it was possible to behave this way with the head of a sovereign state. He has such a teacher, GDP, and a toileter in toilets.
          Take a look at the British Commonwealth. Where is New Zealand and where is England? But they collaborate, sympathize and how. And there are tons of examples.
          1. Svarog 2 March 2020 16: 24 New
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            After a military operation outside Ukraine, there would be a mountain of corpses, partisans in the west, as well as a disabled swift and oil embargo, and not 40 million grateful Ukrainians, do not fatazy.

            Rather, you fantasize .. there wouldn’t be any corpses if you planned as clearly as with the Crimea .. And drive all Western Natsiks west and give autonomy .. well, or let Poland deal with them .. There are as many people in Ukraine, who would like to see decisive action from Russia and stop this bacchanalia ..
            And the rest I agree ..
            P.S.
            Good should be with fists, I always said, the longer we chew snot, the more we wrap them in a fist .. Half-measures do not work .. it only pushes the problem ..
            1. Whalebone 2 March 2020 17: 01 New
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              What natsik? Count them there on the fingers. There are 10 thousand corpses on both sides in the Donbass and these are 2 incomplete regions. Do you propose to arrange a civil war throughout Ukraine? So how was it in Syria? In the centre of Europe? The sanctions would be such that they would fence off Russia with barbed wire around the perimeter. And they would have closed everything completely. No, don’t. Let Ukrainians build their own statehood. Now, if I see how Zelya Benu will be dispossessed and expelled, then I understand that he has eggs, and that means that the state also has a chance. So far, of all dealerships, he is most similar to a person. I hope he succeeds.
              1. Svarog 2 March 2020 17: 15 New
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                Quote: Whalebone
                and Donbass 10 thousand corpses on both sides and these are 2 incomplete areas

                They could not have existed, if Russia had acted decisively ..
                Sanctions would be such that they would fence off Russia with barbed wire around the perimeter

                They returned Crimea and nothing and it would have been the same .. what a war in the center of Europe .. don’t tell, people fight when they understand who and why .. but it wouldn’t work with Russia if there was a will, the whole war would last a week with the flight of the tops abroad .. And 90% of Ukrainians would be happy to support Russia, if she had promised them a better life))) And let the rest 10 fall to Poland, together with western Ukraine ..
                Let Ukrainians build their own statehood.

                So who is against ... I'm not. Let them build it, but in our orbit .. and not with the USA’s supply, now the USA is building everything there for them .. by the same token the centuries-old ties of our peoples ..
                . Now, if I see how Zelya Benu will be dispossessed and expelled, then I understand that he has eggs

                Rather, Rogozin will land on Mars than Ze will dispossess Benny .. laughing
                So far, of all dealerships, he is most similar to a person. I hope he succeeds.

                So far, in addition to blah blah and PR, Ze did nothing at all .. And it’s already clear that he won’t do anything .. And no one in Ukraine can do anything .. without Russia it’s not possible .. The law of physics, small objects always revolve around large ones, and if near two large planets, then a small object breaks or it finally falls into the orbit of the other ..
                1. A.TOR 2 March 2020 17: 51 New
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                  Let them build, but in our orbit

                  In which orbit?
                2. Whalebone 2 March 2020 21: 22 New
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                  What you wrote is called the occupation of a sovereign state. Can you imagine the number of aircraft that must be used to occupy the land part of Ukraine and establish control over it? 50 divisions are not enough. Mobilization would have to be carried out. One deployment and focus for several months. Not all Ukrainians consider the current Russian Federation a role model and want to join the structure. Resistance would be serious. This is not a special operation - this is war. In the center of Europe, by all arms. The war is predatory in all respects. No, do not need such fantasies. God forbid. Let yourself. And in whose orbit it depends on the leadership of the Russian Federation. They can only select, that’s not Ukraine as a friend. How could you bet on this moron Yanukovych?
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                    Not all Ukrainians consider the current Russian Federation a role model and want to join the composition. Resistance would be serious

                    Here I agree .. there is nothing to offer, they themselves are the same ..
                    called the occupation of a sovereign state

                    There are many names, one can call the “change of the hostile government” and there are many ways, it is not necessary to start a war .. you can learn from the USA .. and the USSR also owned this technology .. It’s just that nobody needs it .. I’m arguing in the USSR paradigm ..and if Russia would be socialist, then it would be suggested that ..with all the consequences ..
              2. Anwar-oglu 2 March 2020 18: 03 New
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                According to the sociometry of the Natsik, it already approaches 20%. And the saddest thing is a lot of young people, like Gogol's Andriy, who sold their homeland, faith and mov. For lace panties maidan
                1. Whalebone 2 March 2020 21: 29 New
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                  I do not know about sociometry, I see that in the Rada there are no 20% of Natsiks. And the parliamentary elections were not a couple in the State Duma. Everyone was registered there with minimal barriers.
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                according to modest estimates, about 50
      5. Lopatov 2 March 2020 15: 20 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        If the Russian Federation and its power will repel all the former republics of the USSR

        How's that?
        Here, for example, in relation to Belarus.
        How much do you propose to shod every Russian citizen for the sake of "friendship of peoples"?

        And immediately the second question, love for money is prostitution. And friendship for money?
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          And friendship for money?

          Friendzone i.e. "dynamo".
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke 2 March 2020 16: 26 New
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          Quote: Spade
          How much do you propose to put on shoes each Russian citizen for the sake of "friendship of peoples"?

          And where is "everyone" and who is it?
          For the sake of "friendship of peoples" it is not a sin to introduce a progressive tax.
          1. Lopatov 2 March 2020 17: 43 New
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            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            And where is "everyone"

            Well, how?
            There are taxes that the oil industry pays
            There is a state of Russia that receives these taxes
            There are citizens of the state of Russia who depend on these taxes. Strong or weak, but that’s it.
        3. Whalebone 2 March 2020 17: 04 New
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          They put on your shoes and do not ask. Recently, the retirement age has been raised. Do you trace the connection with the Syrian? So it’s better to spend this money on Belarus than on Arabs who always throw. And there are more than one examples in the history of our state.
          There is no friendship in politics. There are temporary alliances and a coincidence of interests. Above I wrote how to "be friends".
          1. Lopatov 2 March 2020 17: 45 New
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            Quote: Whalebone
            They put on your shoes and do not ask. Recently, the retirement age has been raised.

            And?
            We need to raise it even more, did Papa Koli's patamushta create an inefficient economy, completely and completely dependent on a freebie?

            Quote: Whalebone
            how better to spend this money on Belarus than on Arabs

            What's better?
            1. Whalebone 2 March 2020 21: 26 New
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              The neighbors, the buffer, the Slavs, the Orthodox, the ones in the orbit of interests.
              1. Lopatov 2 March 2020 23: 37 New
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                The neighbors, the buffer, the Slavs, the Orthodox, the ones in the orbit of interests.

                Not convincing.
                There is a "way out" from Syria in the form of a lower burden on counter-terror in the country.
                in Belarus, the "exit" is zero. If not negative.
          2. Vitaly161 3 March 2020 00: 29 New
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            so Belarusians also work hard before 63 soon, the difference is) why is penal reform there, if the father is doing well (and the people) ?? well, we Russians are fools, they gave the penny reform to push through, and then Belarusians who? if we don’t learn on our rake)
        4. Caretaker 2 March 2020 20: 34 New
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          Quote: Spade
          How much do you propose to shod every Russian citizen for the sake of "friendship of peoples"?

          No shoes.
          In Russia, two groups of oil companies have been formed on this issue.
          “Stubborn” - monopolists who control the supply through the pipe and “pragmatic” - 6 companies that are ready to supply oil to Belarus on mutually beneficial conditions, but access to the pipe is limited for them.
          Let’s see which route they will have to supply oil to Belarus, maybe also through Poland?
          By the way, in Russia there are no state oil companies, only private ones.
          1. Salty 2 March 2020 23: 29 New
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            in Russia there are no state oil companies, only private

            Rosneft - 50% +1 share in federal ownership (JSC ROSNEFTEGAZ, 100% in federal ownership). More accurate.
            1. Caretaker 3 March 2020 20: 17 New
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              Be careful.

              You want to say that throughout the reign of Poroshenko diesel fuel was supplied to Ukraine by a state-owned Russian company? More accurate.
              1. Salty 3 March 2020 21: 51 New
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                You want to say that throughout the reign of Poroshenko diesel fuel was supplied to Ukraine by a state-owned Russian company?

                I said exactly what I wanted to say. Namely, that the controlling stake in Rosneft belongs to the state. This is a medical fact, by the way, everything else is your speculation, my dear.
              2. D. Gorodensky 11 March 2020 23: 25 New
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                Rosneft delivered without interruptions, though it used a tricky route, via Belarus, by tankers by sea and quietly by pipe. Lukoil also succeeded in this matter, not only directly, but also through Lithuania.
          2. Lopatov 2 March 2020 23: 40 New
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            Quote: Caretaker
            By the way, in Russia there are no state oil companies, only private ones.

            Exactly.
            And "cheap oil for Belarus" can exist in only one way. Part of the fee will be the money that will be taken from the Russian budget.
            1. Caretaker 3 March 2020 20: 20 New
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              Quote: Spade
              And "cheap oil for Belarus" can exist in only one way.

              Fortunately for Belarus, the decision is not up to you and 6 Russian companies are ready to supply oil to Belarus without a premium.
      6. abarth 2 March 2020 18: 05 New
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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7d9ljvrF38&t=240s

        Maybe it’s worth the wait, I like how the rhetoric changes no longer Take, but the former Union republics, after some time there will remain partners and this completely suits me.
        you can do guest workers too))), not only oil and gas, a work visa must be entered necessarily for all, without exception
        1. abarth 2 March 2020 19: 47 New
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          there are mistakes, okay,

          we can deliver liquefied gas through the Americans, as in europe. Even the mouth-meadows for this will come down as the last time ..... than someone thinks that the Americans will transport oil and gas across the ocean?))))
    2. Shurik70 2 March 2020 14: 03 New
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      With whom to trade Old Man is an internal affair of Belarus.
      It only seems to me, cheaper than in Russia, he will not find oil. And all the threats to find other suppliers are nothing more than attempts to bring down the price even more.
      1. knn54 2 March 2020 14: 24 New
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        So that later I wouldn’t be indignant, why it is more expensive than (for example) in Texas ...
      2. Malyuta 2 March 2020 14: 38 New
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        With whom to trade the Old Man is an internal affair of Belarus. It only seems to me to be cheaper, than it will not find oil in Russia. And all the threats to find other suppliers are nothing more than attempts to bring down the price even more.

        And what difference does it make for you or not, we don’t get anything from it, and gasoline has become more expensive, it will go up, prices will go up, and taxes will go up. In this sense, I don’t give a damn whether the Timchens and other gaskets in the form of Rosneftegaz get their golden parachutes or not, it won’t affect my pocket, but I’ll buy cartridges.
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke 2 March 2020 14: 40 New
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        Quote: Shurik70
        With whom to trade Old Man is an internal affair of Belarus.
        It only seems to me, cheaper than in Russia, he will not find oil. And all the threats to find other suppliers are nothing more than attempts to bring down the price even more.

        If we tear off our parasites from oil pipes, then, yes, it will not.
      4. orionvitt 2 March 2020 15: 00 New
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        Quote: Shurik70
        With whom to trade Old Man is an internal affair of Belarus.

        With whom to trade Belarus, this is an internal matter of the Old Man. A logical result, when everything depends on the whim, one, albeit cunning, go absolutely narrow-minded person, with the ambitions of the local king. There would be at least a good intriguer, but it is transparent as glass and visible through. It is not surprising to understand it; it wants a lifelong power for itself with a legacy of power for posterity, which in a union state is not very realistic. (General legislative framework). And spit on him people. Ukraine, too, was bombarded with economic buns, but it cost the West to buy the elite (which cost orders of magnitude cheaper than all Russian economic assistance), and as a result they received an absolutely Russophobic state. Neither cheap gas, nor cheap oil, nor trade discounts helped, nothing.
    3. Nyrobsky 2 March 2020 14: 31 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      The foreign policy of Russia in its inefficiency began to catch up with the domestic ..

      In other words, do you completely shift the blame to Russia, but father Grygoritch seems to be out of business? What did we need to do? To give Luka energy resources at his own price, and to buy products from him at world prices, like we are allies there, and here are independent business entities? Well, it would be nice for Luke about 5 years to integrate issues of "dynamic", but not for 20 years to drive Russia by the nose.
      1. Svarog 2 March 2020 14: 34 New
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        Quote: Nyrobsky
        In other words, do you completely shift the blame to Russia, but father Grygoritch seems to be out of business?

        Above, I substantiated my position .. hi
        1. Nyrobsky 2 March 2020 14: 40 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          Above, I substantiated my position ..

          Received hi
      2. Vladimir B. 2 March 2020 15: 27 New
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        Quote: Nyrobsky
        you completely shift the blame to Russia, but father Grygoritch seems to be out of business?

        Sorry to interfere in your dialogue.
        I believe that in this conflict of two fraternal countries, both sides are to blame. everyone wants to get their own benefit and forget that our enemies can take advantage of this conflict. hi
        1. A.TOR 2 March 2020 17: 53 New
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          our enemies can take advantage

          Russia has no enemies - Russia has no allies
        2. Sadam 2 March 2020 19: 10 New
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          you well reminded it. look what Trump does seemingly allies in NATO, etc., but bent the Germans with their auto industry and pipe. Mexicans Kanatsev rewrote nafta to their side and also increase contributions from everyone to NATO ... economically fighting without hesitation .... because they have something to offer others in technology in military protection loans, etc. ....
          this pipe will end and what's next ??? or find cheaper or to the edge of the State Department will finance the difference ....
      3. Caretaker 2 March 2020 20: 46 New
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        Giving Luka energy at its intrinsic price

        Not at the domestic price, which floats, but at a price no higher than the price at which the “Russian” companies supply to Poland and Hungary.
    4. Sergey39 2 March 2020 15: 10 New
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      Old Man is moving in the wrong direction ..

      That is yes. There will be elections in Poland soon. Power can turn 180 °. And at the expense of the inefficiency of Russian foreign policy it will be seen. It's too early to talk about it.
    5. antivirus 2 March 2020 15: 41 New
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      if only the legs would not part, and from the Russian Federation (internal and external policies) and from Butsky
    6. Lelek 2 March 2020 18: 21 New
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      Integration with Poland turns out yes with Europe ..

      hi
      Yes, “Europeans”, NATO and especially the USA are sleeping and see how to integrate with Belarus, but their dreams come true very strange:
  2. svp67 2 March 2020 13: 54 New
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    Excellent .... It remains only to decide on the price and who will pay for all this ... although the latter is already clear, the final consumer, that is, Belarus, pays for it.
    1. prior 2 March 2020 13: 58 New
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      And what, in fact, is excellent?
      What mercantile prevailed over human?
      1. svp67 2 March 2020 14: 00 New
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        What mercantile prevailed over human?

        I don’t get it now. That is, you offer Poland to "forgive" this debt to Belarus and pay everything at the expense of its budget?
        Well then go ahead, offer Poland to pump "for free", that is, for free ...
        1. prior 2 March 2020 14: 33 New
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          Trading is not about them, it is about us. This is about how we bargained, bargaining about the price of oil for Belarus. Belarus will buy oil more expensive, there is someone to buy. But do not expect that it will cost Russia cheaper or more profitable.
          Grandfather Krylov warned ....
      2. maidan.izrailovich 2 March 2020 14: 01 New
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        What mercantile prevailed over human?

        In the actions of Luke there is nothing mercantile. Only blackmail and whining.
        1. antivirus 2 March 2020 15: 44 New
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          I am ready to subsidize Luke -recognize the Russian Crimea ..
          ....bifurcation
    2. Evdokim 2 March 2020 14: 04 New
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      Fine....

      All. Now, oil will flow to Belarus from all the cracks, from the south (Ukraine), from the north (Baltic), and even from the west from Poland. I hope Old Man will be satisfied now. good
      1. svp67 2 March 2020 14: 06 New
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        Quote: Evdokim
        All. Now, oil will flow to Belarus from all the cracks, from the south (Ukraine), from the north (Baltic), and even from the west from Poland. I hope Old Man is now satisfied.

        Immediately, the main thing is that from the "ceiling, but to drip by the collar" I did not start ...
        1. bouncyhunter 2 March 2020 14: 33 New
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          Serge hi , it from what such ceilings bury ??? wink
          1. svp67 2 March 2020 14: 35 New
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            pasha hi
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            it from what such ceilings bury ???

            Prison ... experience shows that such tricks do not pass without a trace for the rulers and this still gets off well
            1. bouncyhunter 2 March 2020 14: 37 New
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              I will observe from an ambush, I will share the results. wink
              1. svp67 2 March 2020 14: 38 New
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                I will observe from an ambush, I will share the results.

                Are you more careful there, in ambush then, "inventory" is now in stock?
                1. bouncyhunter 2 March 2020 14: 52 New
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                  Everything is in the normal mode, the “Vintar” is also in stock (and the ammunition for it, too). wink
                  1. svp67 2 March 2020 15: 09 New
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                    Everything is in the normal mode, the “Vintar” is also in stock (and the ammunition for it, too).

                    You are more careful there ... Without fanaticism and extra zeal ...
                    1. bouncyhunter 2 March 2020 15: 12 New
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                      Accepted for execution, observing s ... lol
      2. Brturin 2 March 2020 23: 29 New
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        Quote: Evdokim
        All. Now oil will flow to Belarus from all slots

        it could have happened three years ago - “And we didn’t just work out these alternatives. We tried some, tested them already in practice, delivering oil from the Black and Mediterranean Seas to our refineries in order to see in practice how it would look economically” - during this time it was possible to debug everything, only somehow
    3. Malyuta 2 March 2020 14: 09 New
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      Quote: svp67
      It remains only to decide on the price and who will pay for all this ... although the latter is already clear, it pays for it - the final consumer, that is, Belarus

      I repeat once again, Lukashenko asks to sell him Russian oil at the purchase price of Germany (excluding transportation), and our thieves refuse him, so the Old Man is looking for other options and is likely to find, since there is an oversupply in the oil market. Our julmans, with their fantastic greed, will play to the point that we will lose the last ally and brotherly people.
      1. svp67 2 March 2020 14: 19 New
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        I repeat once again, Lukashenko asks to sell him Russian oil at the purchase price of Germany (excluding transportation)

        No, here you are wrong. He DEMANDS domestic prices, not German prices, because in this case they will also have to pay $ 70 for each ton, for transit costs ...
        Quote: Malyuta
        and our thieves refuse him

        And how to name the people who received oil from us at low prices, they resold to the West and Ukraine, quite at world prices, and the difference lay in your pocket, and this is not much, not less than 6 million tons of oil .... in addition 18 million tons of oil for domestic consumption
        1. Uncle Izya 2 March 2020 14: 31 New
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          So the crafty one said that the west will put oil on us for evil
        2. Alexga 2 March 2020 14: 51 New
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          No, here you are wrong. Read the results of the latest Sochi talks. It's about the market price of oil. But Sechin and Alikperov also demand a bonus. What Lukashenko disagrees with. That's why this circus started.
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            Quote: AlexGa
            Read the results of the latest Sochi talks. It's about the market price of oil. But Sechin and Alikperov also demand a bonus. What Lukashenko disagrees with. That's why this circus started.

            According to Belneftekhim, currently the price of oil supplies from the Russian Federation is 83% of the world oil price. The size of the premium is 10 dollars per ton.
            According to the Belarusian government, Belarus lost about $ 2019 million in 330 due to a tax maneuver in Russia.
            Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/671815.html
            “And how do you supply Hungary, Poland, the West? No bonus. How can the “elder brother” relate to the closest people? ” - Once again the president wondered during a trip to Dobrush.

            But wait, as I understand it, these countries are supplied at 100% of the world price + transportation costs ... But then Lukashenko wants 70, as in our Smolensk region
            1. Alexga 2 March 2020 15: 25 New
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              Well, Russian oil extraction companies do not pay 100%. What does the bonus have to do with it?
            2. Pavel T 2 March 2020 18: 31 New
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              Well, everything is in a heap, anyway circles on the water went, right? Oil today on the stock exchange less than $ 50)))
            3. Caretaker 2 March 2020 21: 12 New
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              Quote: svp67
              But wait, as I understand it, these countries are supplied at 100% of the world price + transportation costs ...

              Why should Poland buy oil more expensive than the "world price" + delivery? Today, URALS is trading at $ 46 with a 6-day supply. Poland has access to the sea, it is possible to buy at par.
              If transportation costs were plus to the price, then raising / lowering the fee for transporting oil through the territory of the Republic of Belarus would not be discussed with Russian companies.
              Oil at the border with the Republic of Belarus is cheaper for Poland than was offered to Belarus, which Lukashenko spoke about.
              At present, 6 Russian companies are ready to supply oil to Belarus at an affordable price for both parties. What does not suit you?
              The problem is that other companies that control the valve may not be given access to the pipe and will have to ship through Poland. What do you say then?
          2. Lopatov 2 March 2020 15: 43 New
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            But Sechin and Alikperov also demand a bonus.

            Do you even understand what kind of award it is?
            It’s not money from the air, it’s compensation.
            Low oil prices, not profitable for producers
            1. Alexga 2 March 2020 16: 20 New
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              Well, if oil production is not a profitable business, then let them stop doing it, strange, this is their problem, and Lukashenko should be responsible for this.
              1. Lopatov 2 March 2020 17: 49 New
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                Quote: AlexGa
                Well, if oil production is not a profitable business

                Profitable.
                But it’s more profitable to sell oil at world prices.


                Quote: AlexGa
                this is their problem, and Lukashenko should be responsible for this.

                What ???
                They have no problems.
                The problem is just for Lukashenko.
                He wanted them to sell oil at reduced prices, and for this he partially compensated for the difference. Calling it a "premium." Probably for the purposes of propaganda.

                Will not pay? Well, okay. They will sell oil to other world buyers.
            2. Caretaker 2 March 2020 21: 13 New
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              Do you even understand what kind of award it is?

              The one that is not taken from Poland, although the price for Poland includes the cost of transportation through Belarus.
              1. Lopatov 2 March 2020 23: 17 New
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                Quote: Caretaker
                The one that is not taken from Poland

                Because Poland buys oil at world prices.
                There’s nothing to take.
                1. Caretaker 3 March 2020 20: 24 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  Because Poland buys oil at world prices.
                  There’s nothing to take.

                  Then why did traders buy Russian oil for Belarus cheaper than offered without a premium? Unfortunately, delivery via Poland, and not through a Russian pipe, is not the fault of Belarus. Who benefited from this?
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke 2 March 2020 14: 28 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Our julmans, with their fantastic greed, will play to the point that we will lose the last ally and brotherly people.

        It would be better for us to lose the cheaters.
        Forever.
      3. Evdokim 2 March 2020 14: 41 New
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        If the price is an ally, this is the size of the discount on oil, why the hell is such an ally. Prostitution all this vanishes. They gave a discount to the ally, did not give ran to the west, south, north, probably even to Venezuela. Although it is their choice.
        PS It is extremely difficult for small states to maintain their sovereignty without a strong ally. hi
  3. Horon 2 March 2020 13: 56 New
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    An analogue of the "ham legs"? Maybe the Americans and the Poles will also supply it for free, then Lukashenko will show the Kremlin nevermind! wassat
    1. Whalebone 2 March 2020 14: 12 New
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      With Luke will. 6 billion a year worth Belarus for the Russian Federation. But allies are not free. You do not feed, your "partner" feeds. Belarus will leave for the EU and NATO (and it has no unresolved territorial disputes), how much will the flight time be before the Kremlin?
      1. Ryaruav 2 March 2020 14: 20 New
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        Lukich wolves fear not to go into the forest, a double-edged sword and launchers fall under a melee strike
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        So let NATO tear. He feeds and considers flying time for years.
      3. Horon 2 March 2020 15: 24 New
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        If someone decides that he will definitely fly if he jumps from the bell tower, then he must move away and modestly admire his flight.
        If Lukashonko decides to leave Russia, he will be able to do it anyway, and an ally bought but not put on a short leash will easily change his master completely forgetting about the money paid for him. Therefore:
        You do not feed, your "partner" feeds. Belarus will leave for the EU and NATO (and it has no unresolved territorial disputes),

        “How many wolves do not feed ...” it can happen anyway, but if for its feeding the Russians are offered to forget about retirement and increase VAT up to 30%, then the majority will already be completely indifferent to flying time! And in general, alliance is a mutually beneficial association, and what you are talking about is blackmail. Such "allies" must not be kept in allies, but shot at the first possible occasion!
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        as soon as it is about to leave, territorial disputes will appear, believe me
  4. Crimean partisan 1974 2 March 2020 13: 56 New
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    This Polish initiative was warmly supported by Minsk ........ well, father don’t peck at tanga. it is possible to buy from stripes at tricorns, but why, on the adjacent one They’re heated with coal from South Africa and not at all, they are satisfied, and why are the poor beggars to buy cheaper oil
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      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      and what are the Byalorus beggars that would buy cheaper oil to buy

      And who sells them cheaper? Lukashenko asks to sell him oil at the purchase price of Germany, and our crooks are trying to suck in more.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974 2 March 2020 15: 39 New
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        and our crooks are trying to suck in more expensive ....... our crooks (Russian), on the contrary, are sucking in on the dumping, that is, below everyone else, they decided to cancel the “gift" barrels and it went and went, well, so let’s push father buys non-dumping and without “gifts” from striped ones, in any case, Deutschland does not buy from Norwegians and other Saudis, but from Russia, BUT WITHOUT GIFTS
  5. Ryaruav 2 March 2020 13: 58 New
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    Well, sabers, get ready now on Amer’s oil.
  6. Terenin 2 March 2020 14: 01 New
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    This Polish initiative was warmly supported by Minsk.
    after the “hot” initiative comes the “cool” calculation of forces and funds, then the “cold” agreement and the “student” transfer of funds under “ice” conditions with the Anglo-Saxon Santa Clauses ...
    and, in the end, Rygorych again in Moscow with a replica "... but sho, dear people, in the kitchen, and you can’t quarrel anymore?" request
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      Greetings! hi
      This is if you manage to get to the border, but in general they have their own heads on their shoulders let them decide how they like.
  7. Igoresha 2 March 2020 14: 01 New
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    as previously written in comments on VO - gasoline from the Tomsk (?) refinery in Kazakhstan is sold significantly lower than in the Russian Federation, that Belarus rightly wants the same
    1. Caretaker 2 March 2020 21: 27 New
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      Quote: Igoresha
      gasoline from the Tomsk (?) refinery in Kazakhstan is sold significantly lower than in the Russian Federation, and Belarus rightly wants the same

      The problem is that cheap oil from Kazakhstan is not allowed into Belarus, as Lukashenko has repeatedly said.
      PS And I wouldn’t refuse to buy the 92nd at Gazpromneft at 26 rubles per liter, as in Kazakhstan,
      only our oilmen have “double standards”. Or triple?
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        such a stranglehold on the neck of the Belarusian taxpayer, and then we are surprised - where are the demonstrations for the unification of the two fraternal peoples
  8. K-50 2 March 2020 14: 11 New
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    In Poland, found a way to supply American oil to Belarus by reverse

    Circus and only.
    Pin buys Russian oil, sells its own (or maybe Russian?) To Poland, which, in turn, is to Belarusians, and those who believe that they ousted Moscow and bought cheaper. fellow
    Madhouse on the road !!! wassat
  9. Dart2027 2 March 2020 14: 13 New
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    I’m wondering how much it will cost?
  10. askort154 2 March 2020 14: 19 New
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    When this task is solved, it will be possible to receive tankers with American oil in Gdansk and send it through the pipeline to Belarus.

    Come on, come on Luka, climb into the Western loop, in spite of us. Good Americans, they do not mind the loops. Open your eyes, look, the Europeans are already "saturated" with American liquefied gas. Spain completely terminated the contract with the United States on the supply of LNG. Tired of buying 50% more expensive. Even went to pay a penalty, if only to break the dependence on the United States. Poroshenko tried to transport coal from the United States.
    Call him, ask why he refused?
  11. Victor March 47 2 March 2020 14: 23 New
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    Quote: Svarog
    In Poland, found a way to supply American oil to Belarus by reverse

    This Polish initiative was warmly supported by Minsk.

    The Old Man is moving in the wrong direction .. Integration with Poland is obtained yes with Europe .. but not with Russia .. The foreign policy of Russia in its inefficiency began to catch up with the domestic ..

    Let him suck a tit from the Poles, as he sucked at Russia for centuries. And let him compare which is better.
  12. Livonetc 2 March 2020 14: 23 New
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    Just rummaging new psheks, descendants of those Janeks.
  13. Topol M 2 March 2020 14: 24 New
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    Father’s game for the audience! Soon the election, it’s necessary to show what kind of owner it is. That forced the cows to give more milk, and now does not know where to put it, pensioners are again promised to increase pensions, lower food prices. If we choose again, we’ll do it yourself understand that! As it’s already gotten tired, the lured ones have gotten bogged down, he has a friend, they stuck the TABAKERKA stalls on every corner, selling cigarettes, they don’t have any income, so now they only sell coupons and transport tickets . The people in the networks are discussing the creation of a coronovirus quarantine in each stall.
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    Will Belarusian refineries be able to process oil from another continent without reconfiguration?
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    In vain the Old Man with Ukrainians hobbled ... Now the syndrome "spitefully frostbite his ears to frost" has spread to him :) ..
  16. cniza 2 March 2020 14: 36 New
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    When this task is solved, it will be possible to receive tankers with American oil in Gdansk and send it through the pipeline to Belarus.


    It’s a good bait, but Belarus must decide for itself how it is better.
  17. Fantazer911 2 March 2020 14: 40 New
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    Oil purchased in Russia by America in a Polish port unloaded through a pipe will go to Belarus, this is the same if you scratch your left ear with your right hand hi
    1. Vasya Zyuzkin 2 March 2020 15: 00 New
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      In in! Recently there was news that the United States increased oil purchases from Russia. Likely under this business!
      Although it may be a Russian one, but a shale dad?
    2. Caretaker 2 March 2020 21: 53 New
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      Quote: Fantazer911
      Oil purchased in Russia by America in a Polish port unloaded through a pipe will go to Belarus, this is the same if you scratch your left ear with your right hand

      If Azerbaijan’s oil comes from Ukraine, how is it?
      There are no state-owned oil companies in Russia, only private ones. Those Russian companies that control the oil pipe may block supplies. It is possible that 6 Russian companies that are willing to sell oil to Belarus at a mutually acceptable price will have to supply oil to Belarus through Poland.
      By the way, it was not possible to agree with Kazakhstan, although they have 92nd gasoline at 26 rubles. at gas stations of Gazpromneft (27 rubles in the photo). Probably cheaper oil?
  18. g_ae 2 March 2020 15: 18 New
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    And what, sobsna, is it something? So when Russia paves endless “flows” in order to bypass transit countries (although I’m sure that it would be cheaper and easier to establish normal relations and negotiate with them), then this is normal and wise. And here even the attempts of Belarusians to find alternative suppliers cause such an inadequate reaction. I am in shock. Well, you will get more. Why malice? Well, for the next breaking through the bottom of this!
  19. Ros 56 2 March 2020 16: 12 New
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    Sound the price in comparison with the Russian and quantity. fellow Could it be that the oil that the stripes bought from Russia, then hello to Luka.
  20. Sands Careers General 2 March 2020 16: 55 New
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    The Old Man will be played, the greed of the fraer will destroy, one cannot just play with the West.
    It wakes up once, and the eggs are already in the western iron fist, and you can’t bring anything back.
  21. Alexander Zima 2 March 2020 17: 46 New
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    And then the father will do it with apples ... maybe he will open a winery and he will do chatters with worms ... and he will do fish ... maybe he can breed maggot .... the author does not tell people ... this sly man in case of war Belarus will surrender in two days .. the Russians do not even have time to start the engines as NATO will be in MINSK .. This politician is a hundred times trickier than the Cunning Fox Kuchma.
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      How old are you, boy? You carry such nonsense ...
  22. primaala 2 March 2020 18: 08 New
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    Shortly before that, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo expressed his readiness to fully meet the needs of Belarus in crude oil with American supplies.
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    fool in the trough will be imported? Or "father" decided to lick an American boot?
    Belarusians no longer know how to get rid of the “king of the bulb." It will finish the game Lukashenko.
    The Americans would at least provide for themselves. lol
    1. Pavel T 2 March 2020 18: 36 New
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      You write so interestingly about the Americans, and their standard of living is much higher, but gasoline is cheaper than in Russia, do not be lazy, go out (while it’s still possible) from the pasture to the Internet, in short, Google to help)
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        Quote: Paul T
        You write so interestingly about the Americans, and their standard of living is much higher, but gasoline is cheaper than in Russia, do not be lazy, go out (while it’s still possible) from the pasture to the Internet, in short, Google to help)

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        To the campaign ... it’s you, dear, that you are in the bunker. And I know what I'm writing about. Google to help you. lol
        1. Pavel T 2 March 2020 18: 47 New
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          Do you know that the Americans are about to run out of oil?))) Well, you give))) laughing
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            Quote: Paul T
            Do you know that the Americans are about to run out of oil?))) Well, you give))) laughing

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            It's not just about oil. Shale to help them lol
            1. Pavel T 2 March 2020 19: 00 New
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              I’ll tell you in your ear, in secret: “You don’t know anything here, VO even writes articles as the Russian propaganda orders, distort and not agree on from the original source.” Ciao, Bambino, sorry
  23. Sergey Averchenkov 2 March 2020 18: 21 New
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    Quote: Amateur
    (I.A. Khlestakov, Dead Souls)
    Hmmm ...
  24. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 19: 45 New
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    Quote: Nyrobsky
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    The foreign policy of Russia in its inefficiency began to catch up with the domestic ..

    In other words, do you completely shift the blame to Russia, but father Grygoritch seems to be out of business? What did we need to do? To give Luka energy resources at his own price, and to buy products from him at world prices, like we are allies there, and here are independent business entities? Well, it would be nice for Luke about 5 years to integrate issues of "dynamic", but not for 20 years to drive Russia by the nose.

    Could you announce the domestic prices for hydrocarbons (if you say it correctly, and not like in a manger) for which you “give” (in fact, Belarus buys, not Lukashenko for his yacht, like Abramovich) these hydrocarbons?
  25. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 19: 53 New
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    Quote: primaala
    Shortly before that, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo expressed his readiness to fully meet the needs of Belarus in crude oil with American supplies.
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    fool in the trough will be imported? Or "father" decided to lick an American boot?
    Belarusians no longer know how to get rid of the “king of the bulb." It will finish the game Lukashenko.
    The Americans would at least provide for themselves. lol

    So in the State Duma, and not only, American boots have licked for a long time and nothing. Not so long ago, the entire State Duma, standing and with stormy, prolonged applause, met with curators from the USA with smiles, and Volodin himself helpfully, with a servile smile, with a bowed head, like laid in front of the owner, stood on the hood and clapped his hands in front of the American senators, and with champagne welcomed Trump's victory. I do not say how the US celebrates Independence Day in Russia.
  26. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 19: 55 New
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    Quote: Alexander Zima
    And then the father will do it with apples ... maybe he will open a winery and he will do chatters with worms ... and he will do fish ... maybe he can breed maggot .... the author does not tell people ... this sly man in case of war Belarus will surrender in two days .. the Russians do not even have time to start the engines as NATO will be in MINSK .. This politician is a hundred times trickier than the Cunning Fox Kuchma.

    NATO will immediately be in Moscow, bypassing Belarus. According to the law on the alliance forces, signed by Putin in 2007.
  27. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 19: 58 New
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    Sound the price in comparison with the Russian and quantity. fellow Could it be that the oil that the stripes bought from Russia, then hello to Luka.

    No matter where they bought, they will not be more expensive than the RF, they will not sell and will not interfere with all kinds of chlorides.
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      Quote: D. Gorodensky
      and will not interfere with all kinds of chlorides.

      You are mistaken, can. Recently, the United States partially sold strategic stock, so it was all stained with organochlorine. God forbid, of course.
  28. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 07 New
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    Quote: Vasya Zyuzkin
    In in! Recently there was news that the United States increased oil purchases from Russia. Likely under this business!
    Although it may be a Russian one, but a shale dad?

    So of course they did. Why not increase it if they sell it on the cheap. The Americans are not stupid, and they won’t buy at world or more expensive, there are cheaper suppliers nearby. The question is why, suddenly, the Russian Federation began to drive tankers with oil from Peter and Novorossiysk to the striped? Yes, because again the “ally”, Venezuela, threw ... Even American politicians say that the decision to bail out the United States, which organized the economic blockade of Venezuela, looks strange. Moscow at the official level strongly criticizes the policy of suffocating sanctions against Venezuela, but "continues to make money on its main geopolitical adversary, taking advantage of the weakness of the Maduro regime."
  29. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 10 New
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    Will Belarusian refineries be able to process oil from another continent without reconfiguration?

    U, how cool they spoke. Immediately obvious, "cool expert"! Thank you, made laugh.
  30. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 12 New
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    Quote: Sands Career General
    The Old Man will be played, the greed of the fraer will destroy, one cannot just play with the West.
    It wakes up once, and the eggs are already in the western iron fist, and you can’t bring anything back.

    Well, the Kremlin and the other "elite" of the Russian Federation are not afraid to keep their eggs in the grip of the West, while Lukashenko has free eggs, they are not pinched in a grip.
  31. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 19 New
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    When this task is solved, it will be possible to receive tankers with American oil in Gdansk and send it through the pipeline to Belarus.

    Come on, come on Luka, climb into the Western loop, in spite of us. Good Americans, they do not mind the loops. Open your eyes, look, the Europeans are already "saturated" with American liquefied gas. Spain completely terminated the contract with the United States on the supply of LNG. Tired of buying 50% more expensive. Even went to pay a penalty, if only to break the dependence on the United States. Poroshenko tried to transport coal from the United States.
    Call him, ask why he refused?

    You tell the curator, let him rewrite the agitation. According to the European Commission, in the first half of 2019, LNG deliveries from the United States amounted to 7 billion cubic meters. m in regasified form, which is almost twice as much as the whole of the previous year. But in the second half of 2019, LNG from the United States and Qatar began to cost significantly cheaper in Europe than pipeline gas supplied from Russia. The price of LNG at the largest gas hub in the EU - TTF in the Netherlands fell in November to $ 110-120 per 1.000 cubic meters. m., having decreased by 57% during the year. According to the official forecast of the US Department of Energy, the supply of American LNG to Europe in 2020 will double, Qatar will increase its supply of LNG by 1.5 times by that time.
  32. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 20 New
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    Quote: Topol M
    Father’s game for the audience! Soon the election, it’s necessary to show what kind of owner it is. That forced the cows to give more milk, and now does not know where to put it, pensioners are again promised to increase pensions, lower food prices. If we choose again, we’ll do it yourself understand that! As it’s already gotten tired, the lured ones have gotten bogged down, he has a friend, they stuck the TABAKERKA stalls on every corner, selling cigarettes, they don’t have any income, so now they only sell coupons and transport tickets . The people in the networks are discussing the creation of a coronovirus quarantine in each stall.

    When?
  33. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 21 New
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    In Poland, found a way to supply American oil to Belarus by reverse

    This Polish initiative was warmly supported by Minsk.

    The Old Man is moving in the wrong direction .. Integration with Poland is obtained yes with Europe .. but not with Russia .. The foreign policy of Russia in its inefficiency began to catch up with the domestic ..

    Let him suck a tit from the Poles, as he sucked at Russia for centuries. And let him compare which is better.

    Does hawthorn act like that?
  34. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 28 New
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    [quote = K-50] [quote] In Poland, found a way to supply American oil to Belarus by reverse [/ quote]
    Circus and only.
    Pin buys Russian oil, sells its own (or maybe Russian?) To Poland, which, in turn, is to Belarusians, and those who believe that they ousted Moscow and bought cheaper. fellow
    Madhouse on the road !!! wassat[/ quote [quote = antivirus] I am ready to subsidize Luke - recognize the Russian Crimea ..
    .... split [/ quote]
    Let the Russian Federation, for starters, recognize Crimea as Russian the same Sberbank, VTBbank, Russian Railways, etc.
  35. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 39 New
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    and our crooks are trying to suck in more expensive ....... our crooks (Russian), on the contrary, are sucking in on the dumping, that is, below everyone else, they decided to cancel the “gift" barrels and it went and went, well, so let’s push father buys non-dumping and without “gifts” from striped ones, in any case, Deutschland does not buy from Norwegians and other Saudis, but from Russia, BUT WITHOUT GIFTS

    Only Germany, the same gas from the Russian Federation costs about $ 70 per thousand cubic meters on the border of the Russian Federation and Belarus,
    and Belarus-127 $.
    1. Pavel T 2 March 2020 20: 55 New
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      Not, friend, not $ 70, today the cost of gas on a central European gas hub is $ 117 per 1000 cubic meters. And Belarus, yes, pays $ 127 today
  36. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 42 New
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    With Luke will. 6 billion a year worth Belarus for the Russian Federation. But allies are not free. You do not feed, your "partner" feeds. Belarus will leave for the EU and NATO (and it has no unresolved territorial disputes), how much will the flight time be before the Kremlin?

    Could you announce the price list?
  37. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 53 New
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    Quote: svp67
    Quote: AlexGa
    Read the results of the latest Sochi talks. It's about the market price of oil. But Sechin and Alikperov also demand a bonus. What Lukashenko disagrees with. That's why this circus started.

    According to Belneftekhim, currently the price of oil supplies from the Russian Federation is 83% of the world oil price. The size of the premium is 10 dollars per ton.
    According to the Belarusian government, Belarus lost about $ 2019 million in 330 due to a tax maneuver in Russia.
    Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/671815.html
    “And how do you supply Hungary, Poland, the West? No bonus. How can the “elder brother” relate to the closest people? ” - Once again the president wondered during a trip to Dobrush.

    But wait, as I understand it, these countries are supplied at 100% of the world price + transportation costs ... But then Lukashenko wants 70, as in our Smolensk region

    Oh, young man, you don’t even know what for what, but all the same in "analytics." The world price of oil, like gas, includes the cost of oil (gas) + the cost of pumping + tax + excise tax. If they say that the world price of oil for Germany in 2019 was $ 450 per tonne, this means that Germany has already received this tonne of oil on its territory. This is where the collision arises of whether oil costs cheaper than Germany or Belarus, and as arithmetic says, not even advanced mathematics, the Russian Federation sells oil and gas for Germany itself much cheaper than Belarus.
  38. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 20: 55 New
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    I repeat once again, Lukashenko asks to sell him Russian oil at the purchase price of Germany (excluding transportation)

    No, here you are wrong. He DEMANDS domestic prices, not German prices, because in this case they will also have to pay $ 70 for each ton, for transit costs ...
    Quote: Malyuta
    and our thieves refuse him

    And how to name the people who received oil from us at low prices, they resold to the West and Ukraine, quite at world prices, and the difference lay in your pocket, and this is not much, not less than 6 million tons of oil .... in addition 18 million tons of oil for domestic consumption

    I apologize wildly, young man, what class do you go to, since you are carrying such a bellybird?
  39. Sklendarka 2 March 2020 21: 21 New
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    Quote: D. Gorodensky
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: AlexGa
    Read the results of the latest Sochi talks. It's about the market price of oil. But Sechin and Alikperov also demand a bonus. What Lukashenko disagrees with. That's why this circus started.

    According to Belneftekhim, currently the price of oil supplies from the Russian Federation is 83% of the world oil price. The size of the premium is 10 dollars per ton.
    According to the Belarusian government, Belarus lost about $ 2019 million in 330 due to a tax maneuver in Russia.
    Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/671815.html
    “And how do you supply Hungary, Poland, the West? No bonus. How can the “elder brother” relate to the closest people? ” - Once again the president wondered during a trip to Dobrush.

    But wait, as I understand it, these countries are supplied at 100% of the world price + transportation costs ... But then Lukashenko wants 70, as in our Smolensk region

    Oh, young man, you don’t even know what for what, but all the same in "analytics." The world price of oil, like gas, includes the cost of oil (gas) + the cost of pumping + tax + excise tax. If they say that the world price of oil for Germany in 2019 was $ 450 per tonne, this means that Germany has already received this tonne of oil on its territory. This is where the collision arises of whether oil costs cheaper than Germany or Belarus, and as arithmetic says, not even advanced mathematics, the Russian Federation sells oil and gas for Germany itself much cheaper than Belarus.

    Plus to this figure, we must unfasten ten Baku for the development of sports (racing on yachts)
  40. D. Gorodensky 2 March 2020 21: 26 New
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    Not, friend, not $ 70, today the cost of gas on a central European gas hub is $ 117 per 1000 cubic meters. And Belarus, yes, pays $ 127 today

    Yes, $ 117. But this price already includes delivery to the customer + customs duty of 30% of the average price in Europe. From the border of the Russian Federation to Rotterdam about 2200 km. Pumping 1000 cubic meters per hundred kilometers from $ 2 to 3.2 (depending from the country). Here and count.
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    it will be possible to receive tankers with American oil in Gdansk and send it through a pipeline to Belarus.

    The question is: why? Isn’t it easier to send American oil to Polish refineries, and leave the equivalent part of the oil from the Druzhba pipeline intended for refining in Poland to be left to the Republic of Belarus for refining at Belarusian refineries?
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    "This Polish initiative was warmly supported by Minsk."
    Well, we warmly support this! In 2019, the United States increased the volume of oil purchases from us at times. (See the stats on this issue, it is very interesting) They sell to the Poles, and they, in turn, Belarusians, Belarusians are happy, everyone is happy! Universal happiness, however! The more hysteria the dad has, the more happiness there is on Earth!
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    How lovely!!! I hope the oil issue is settled? Joy came to Belarus !!!! Well done dad !!!! Now the people of Belarus will heal happily !!!! laughing
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    and a completely different situation would have been if Putin had not stopped the DPR and LPR. The point is not only that then
    Mariupol, Odessa, Kharkov, etc. would follow the DPR and the LPR, but the point is that these Republics then
    they would easily have reached Kiev, because the whole Ukrainian army, after such successes, would have gone over to the side of the Republics, or simply would have fled. Just as happened with the Ukrainian army and navy in Crimea in 2014, when she saw the success of the Republic of Crimea. And this means that in Kiev would not have appeared, there would have remained no Poroshenko-Turchinov Bandera power, because all these national battalions held
    if the front near Lviv, Uzhgorod and Mukachevo were in front of Poland and Hungary, and Western Ukraine and Transcarpathia would not need Russia, then Lukashenka would see how powerful it is, not just in words but in
    In fact, communication and not the ability to live a friend without a friend of Great Russia, Lesser Russia and the Outskirts of Russia. Of course, Lukashenko would not have expected that he would have to run somewhere like Poroshenko or Turchinov, so that they would not pull up the Russian World for treason, because without the White Russia, the other three
    constituent parts of the Empire of the Russian World — Great Russia, Small Russia and the Outskirts of Russia.
    And now, when, after the boilers at Ilovaisk and Debaltseve, Putin stopped and did not support the DPR and LPR in
    their successful campaign right up to the Bandera nest in Kiev, now we have what we have.
    years, the Nazis mocked the Russian World on the outskirts of Russia, their leaders Porashenko Turchinov, Avakov,
    Yarosh is free, and in the component part of the Empire of the Russian World in White Russia, Lukoshenko is ready
    kissing the eternal enemies is Peace - Anglo-Saxons and Poles. That’s not decisive,
    cowardice, ignorance of the laws of metaphysics, ignorance of the History of Russia. If it's nothing worse than that
    fits into the concepts of betrayal ..