Dreams of Turkish elites about the collapse of Russia


A representative of the Turkish elites, an adviser to the President of Turkey, a member of the Presidential Committee on Security and Foreign Policy, Mesut Haki, who predicted "dismemberment from within" because of the "25 million Muslims" living in it in the event of a military conflict with Ankara, is clearly a supporter of the now widespread among reception politicians to shift from a sick head to a healthy one.


Our country, no matter how it is called - the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union or the Russian Federation, has never experienced cardinal problems due to conflicts caused by religious or national reasons. If it was “dismembered,” then it was through the efforts of politicians who were eager for power, and not because of someone’s desire to pray in a particular church or speak a specific language. It was, however, in Russian stories and many “dismemberers” who came from abroad of our Motherland who tried to use its multinationality for destructive purposes. But the fate of all these attempts, as well as those who made them, was extremely unenviable ...

But Turkey is a completely different matter. The Ottoman Empire, which was erected, was precisely created by means of severe oppression and, above all, physical extermination of both peoples of other ethnic groups and Gentiles, who refused to betray their shrines and converted to Islam. This concerned first of all Orthodox Christians - especially a lot about what “national policy” is in Turkish, Armenians, Greeks, Bulgarians can tell. Yes, and many other nations, in whose history the Janissary scimitar left a terrible and bloody trace, there is something to say. Ultimately, the absolute reluctance to consider anyone other than half-believers as fellow believers as people as such led the Ottoman Porto built on bones and horror to sunset and utter collapse.

Since the 20th century, the barbarian attitude of the Turkish state towards the peoples inhabiting a huge country many times has become the object of universal censure by world powers and an occasion for exerting "educational influence" on violent Ottomans. At the same time, however, Europe, as a rule, was limited to diplomatic notes, and the Russians fought with the Turks, defending the Orthodox. With the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in the XNUMXs of the last century, most of the peoples who fully knew the Turkish oppression received freedom. However, the attitude towards those who had the misfortune of remaining under Ankara’s rule did not change at all. The founder of Atatürk, who was still deified in modern Turkey, ordered the Kurds to be considered not any separate ethnic group, but simply “mountain” or “wild” Turks. The fact that this is a completely different people, with their own culture, language, and, most importantly, a vision of their own future, the "father of the nation" did not care at all. As, however, does not care about his followers.

The creation in the 70s of the last century of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, which launched the struggle, including the armed one, for the rights of the Kurds, was, in fact, the merit of Ankara, who did not know the retention in the oppression of this people, which somehow didn’t even turns the language to call a national minority. According to various sources, Kurds make up at least 15% of the population of Turkey, where about 35 different nationalities live. The rest basically do not reach the percentage, but the number of Kurds and their determination to assert their own rights to the end allowed them to become a real force. It would seem that it was worth Ankara to give these people at least the opportunity to talk, write, study in their native language? However, instead, the Turkish authorities preferred to burn entire Kurdish villages to the ground and ruthlessly crack down on their inhabitants, all polls declared "terrorists." So they got what they got - the guerrilla war, which continues to this day, and the desire that has emerged among the vast majority of Kurds to separate and live in their own country.

Before giving “frightening” forecasts for Russia, Mesut Khaki should have paid attention to the problems of her own country, which she, apparently, is not able to solve today and is unlikely to be able to do this in the future. Turkey, due to the inability to get along with representatives of the peoples living in it, has an immeasurably greater chance of collapse, and now, with its ill-considered actions, it only increases them.
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  1. Aerodrome 2 March 2020 06: 23 New
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    Remember now you are my word:
    Glory to the warrior - joy;
    Your name is glorified by victory:
    Your shield on the gates of Constantinople;
    And the waves and the land are submissive to you;
    The enemy is jealous of such a wondrous fate. (C) A.S. Pushkin
    play the devils ...
    1. Uncle lee 2 March 2020 06: 31 New
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      In skillful hands, the played Kurdish card can also send the main Janissary to the forefathers.
      1. 210ox 2 March 2020 06: 37 New
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        Yes, Vladimir. In light of such a statement, pro-Turkish forces in Turkey itself should be supported.
        1. Uncle lee 2 March 2020 06: 40 New
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          Kurds need to unite. To everyone.
          1. Nyrobsky 2 March 2020 10: 32 New
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            Quote: Uncle Lee
            Kurds need to unite. To everyone.

            In the long run, this association may turn out to be sideways for us, and not from the best side. In recent years, the Kurds have clearly been blowing in the direction of the United States and, in the event of a union, will advance American interests.
            PKK Cemil Bayık explained in an interview: “The Kurds are now the most dynamic force in the Middle East. They are fighting in the most decisive way, they are better organized. The US cannot ignore this. How the US can achieve its goals in the middle east without PKK? No Kurds? This does not work. How will Europe end its dependence on Russian gas without the Kurds? Oil and gas flows also pass to the Mediterranean Sea via Syrian Kurdistan. If this route is provided, Europe will be able to breathe freely again".
            So, we don’t need unification, but in part to support their aspirations will fit perfectly, because this will allow us to have some influence on all players around the Kurdish topic.
        2. bessmertniy 2 March 2020 06: 44 New
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          The Kurdish card is now actively played by the Americans, who are losing their positions in the region. For us, the more correct position is non-interference in the internal affairs of Turkey. Let it rot itself. No need to help her with this. lol
          1. Romario_Argo 2 March 2020 09: 17 New
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            The Kurdish card is now actively played by the Americans

            the Americans have already played and more than once and threw the Kurds: in Iraq with Barzani, and in Afrin
            let's see if the Kurds have brains in the safes, by the way they were also thrown under the Turks
            our military police delimited zones
          2. Olgovich 2 March 2020 09: 26 New
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            Quote: bessmertniy
            For us, the more correct position is now - non-intervention in the internal affairs of Turkey. Let it rot itself. Do not need her in help this

            Intervene, do not, yes ...

            But to help rot, it is necessary!

            But in general: the enemy, once again, showed that he is an ENEMY. What he was for hundreds of years.

            From this we must proceed .....
          3. Dog
            Dog 2 March 2020 09: 56 New
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            Quote: bessmertniy
            For us now the more correct position is non-interference in the internal affairs of Turkey

            Non-intervention is not a position, but its absence
      2. siberalt 2 March 2020 06: 46 New
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        Oh well. Turkey also has Kurds inside, and their brothers are in Syria, Iran and Iraq. They have a working party in Kurdistan (in fact, its own militant political organization). They have long been ready to ruin Turkey.
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        1. Dog
          Dog 2 March 2020 09: 59 New
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          Quote: South Center
          Maybe it is worth the Kurds in Russia to resettle about their fate so worried

          Already. Already settled. Kuban people at one time allowed Kurdish refugees from NGOs to their villages.
          But then the little things. Kurds need help getting independence on their land, which today is mistakenly incorporated into Turkey
        2. bessmertniy 2 March 2020 10: 01 New
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          Russia is not closed to any nation. If there were good people, it would be possible to accept. And whoever, like Europe - this principle does not suit us. hi
    2. atalef 2 March 2020 10: 05 New
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      Quote: Aerodrome
      Remember now you are my word:
      Glory to the warrior - joy;
      Your name is glorified by victory:
      Your shield on the gates of Constantinople;
      And the waves and the land are submissive to you;
      The enemy is jealous of such a wondrous fate. (C) A.S. Pushkin
      play the devils ...

      it is necessary belay
      Actually, at that time Constantinople was Christian-Orthodox.
      Then the Turks did not smell there.
      What are we hinting at? wink
      1. Moon 2 March 2020 12: 20 New
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        Quote: atalef
        Actually, at that time Constantinople was Christian-Orthodox.
        Then the Turks did not smell there.
        What are we hinting at?

        Well, the pagans once again raided the empire. Constantinople throughout its glorious history of 10 centuries has seen different pagans and military forces. And was taken only 2 times (crusaders and Ottomans)
        The strongest fortress is the largest city of the Middle Ages for a long time before the decline.
        For the Byzantines, our ancestors were no better than barbarians. Which is not far from the truth.
        They counted there from the beginning of Rome until 1453. the longest empire in history.
        1. atalef 2 March 2020 12: 22 New
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          Quote: Σελήνη
          well, the pagans once again raided the empire

          In the sense of the pagan Oleg in the capital of Orthodoxy.
          Interestingly
          Quote: Σελήνη
          . Constantinople throughout its glorious history of 10 centuries has seen different pagans and military forces. And was taken only 2 times (crusaders and Ottomans)

          but the picture is about Oleg and Christian Constantinople
  2. Valery Valery 2 March 2020 06: 48 New
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    Under Erdogan, "the earth is burning." Surely, he dreams of how now to withdraw his soldiers from the SAR without "losing face."
    Ata is unfinished ...
    1. Arlen 2 March 2020 07: 39 New
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      Quote: Valery Valery
      Surely, he dreams of how to withdraw his soldiers now

      No, you're wrong. On the contrary, he wants to strengthen his position in Syria and not only there. He believes that in Syria and Libya he will succeed. Erdogan’s dream of reviving the Ottoman Empire overshadows him. Therefore, until the Turkish army begins to retreat and suffer heavy losses, he does not even begin to think about the withdrawal of the Turkish army from Syria.
      1. Sergej1972 2 March 2020 08: 45 New
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        He cannot realize this dream in any case. Egypt, surpassing Turkey in terms of population and having a fairly powerful army, and Saudi Arabia with its huge financial resources are clearly not going to become dependent on Turkey.
      2. cniza 2 March 2020 09: 07 New
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        He also wants to clean up part of Iraq, in general, he will tear his mouth to himself ...
      3. nickname7 2 March 2020 11: 18 New
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        Erdogan's dream to revive the Ottoman Empire overshadows him

        Only at present, empires are not built with a sword, but with the dollar.
    2. siberalt 2 March 2020 09: 04 New
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      They threw a potato skin on the forum, so we are discussing this skin. Oh well. winked
  3. rocket757 2 March 2020 06: 48 New
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    A lot of people in the "rear" of various unexpected people lurk!
    There are many options, from just "cockroaches in the head" of public and not very faces, to a big religious, ethnic, political, economic ambush!
    You want to say something, go forward, look back ... it will be more true.
    1. cniza 2 March 2020 09: 08 New
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      Quote: rocket757

      You want to say something, go forward, look back ... it will be more true.


      He brings it not in a childish way, and that will roll his neck ...
      1. rocket757 2 March 2020 09: 35 New
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        Hi soldier
        "Sultan" and so not very rainbow luminous, ie to become once again the main thing, it was not at all obvious ... there were many "sins" behind him! A small victorious war game, this is something in such cases ... pan or gone!
        1. cniza 2 March 2020 09: 50 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          A small victorious war game, this is something in such cases ... pan or gone!


          Not there, he seeks military glory, oh not there ...
          1. rocket757 2 March 2020 10: 37 New
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            It seems that he thinks differently, and therefore he greets without measure.
            However, he can put a fair "hedgehog in his pants" into a geyropa ... even against the background of a possible / probable epidemic!
            There will be a "fun"!
            1. cniza 2 March 2020 10: 59 New
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              Here is a picture of a military analyst:

              Tired of watching how black and green barmalei stupidly lose the armored vehicles transferred to them and flee from their positions, the Turkish command decided to raise rates, introducing linear troops into the Syrian province contrary to international law. And from this place began the path that led Erdogan to today's rake.

              Firstly, from the 6th Army Corps, which is responsible for the entire Syrian direction, consisting of one infantry division and twelve brigades, including 2 armored, 2 mechanized and 1 special forces, in practice they managed to get only two suitable battalion tactical groups in practice from 32 settlement.

              But when they rushed to other parts, the picture there was no better. The country with 500 thousand armed forces, of which 390 thousand in the ground forces, was able to collect a total of 12 thousand into combat-ready units in a month of desperate efforts. This, incidentally, is an important touch on the issue of Turkey’s chances in a hypothetical war with Russia.


              So the Sultan is bluffing or does not know the real situation.
              1. Reptiloid 2 March 2020 11: 29 New
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                hi
                bluffing or not knowing ....
                are you talking Maybe they sat in a hookah and such fantasies appeared fool what about Russia?
                1. cniza 2 March 2020 11: 36 New
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                  hi

                  Anything can, but he cheated specifically ... yes
                  1. Reptiloid 2 March 2020 11: 44 New
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                    Quote: cniza
                    hi Anything can, but he cheated specifically ... yes

                    laughing dreams of a fantastic event, the collapse of Russia? So, in reality, there is nothing to offer, except for blowing cheeks hi
                    1. cniza 2 March 2020 11: 53 New
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                      I really liked how E.Ya. Satanovsky expressed himself about him and not only about him:

                      The Turks scare us in Syria, scare us ... They are scared by the press, scared by their superiors, up to and including the ministers, scared by Erdogan ... It bears this, even inconvenient for it. And it’s scary for Turkey, with such a president. Well this is not the president, this is a bird-three, which will certainly fly to the middle of the Dnieper, but what will happen to it later ...

                      A titmouse in the sky, a crane in the hands, Serpent-Gorynych on the warm shores. His Majesty, Sultan, may his steps be easy, his eyes are menacing, his hand is heavy, and his loins are prolific. May his friends and enemies fear, may his subjects and neighbors tremble. And let the Moscow giaurs get out of his way.
                      They want - let them take the base in Syria, but there’s no way to disturb him! He will deal with Assad!

                      For who called there, to Syria, the Russians? The president? The regime, then? And his people, Erdogan! And he will be there now, while the people and Allah, who by definition is for him, for he is Erdogan, is the successor of the Ottoman sultans and Arab Caliphs. He is the king of kings and the governor of the Most High on earth, the shadow and sword of the Lord. His word is the law of the faithful and unfaithful, and the Zimmys-monotheists, and the Salafis from Al-Qaeda and the good Sunnis - the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Shiite munafiks, and the cunning Jews of Israel, and Roman Catholics, worthy of paradise and heavenly gurus; , and Orthodox heretics, of which one well done is the Patriarch of Constantinople, who walks beneath him, Erdogan, with his sovereign hand, and the Protestants from Germany and America, all these Merkels with Trumps ...

                      The people of Syria for Erdogan, and Turkey for him, and she, Turkey, Huber Alles, and dare not, Tsum Teifel, any northern barbaric trash on his way to stand and stop him from taking Damascus! Alles Kaput. Or how is it in Turkish?

                      Well, one to one, Saakashvili, before he was taught to tie snacks with ties. Poelik, though Turkish, but Georgian. Laz, therefore. Muslim, but in temperament - just about lezginka with a dagger in his teeth will dance. Tall, mustachioed, menacing, speechless and frostbite on his head. Because Erdogan.
                      And he will bring that Turkey to the zugunder. Very aggressive not on business.

                      And after all from scratch wound up, uncle. And then he has a bad thing, and that. And the main thing for him is Idlib, and the Islamists in Idlib. As in "Kin-dza-dza" at Danelia Yuri Yakovlev told the earth patsaks? About what happens if all around my brain are too powdered? "Bad ending, dear." Well, that’s how it really will end badly. Because it can’t do well anyway ...
                      1. Reptiloid 2 March 2020 14: 38 New
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                        Yes, Satanovsky said great. It seems that the Sultan himself drove himself into a corner and does not know what to do next ..... wassat
              2. rocket757 2 March 2020 12: 01 New
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                Quote: cniza
                So the Sultan is bluffing or does not know the real situation.

                "Sultan" wants to remain so for a long time, so glad to be fooled, as they say.
                And so, they could have set him up, he has more than enough opponents in the military environment ... and there are no friends among politicians at all, there are interests!
                1. cniza 2 March 2020 12: 11 New
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                  Quote: rocket757

                  "Sultan" wants to remain so for a long time, so glad to be fooled, as they say.


                  And this is the picture:
                  Erdogan will soon have to prepare for the presidential election, therefore he needs at least some tactical successes in Syria to present them to the electorate. At the same time, the opposition raised its head. And the money for a military adventure goes huge. Therefore, he is waiting for a favorable moment in order to distort facts in his usual manner, making himself a winner in wars. It is clear that these Goebbels methods will have nothing in common with the truth.
                  1. rocket757 2 March 2020 12: 15 New
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                    The Sultan has problems ... of course, he is still the same ... Sobachkin’s son, but who knows what will come to replace him! You have to understand, we just don't have friends there!
                    In short, everything is very incomprehensible in the future.
                    1. cniza 2 March 2020 12: 20 New
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                      If the Sultan is dropped, then purely pro-American will come and it will not become easier for us.
                      1. rocket757 2 March 2020 13: 16 New
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                        Not entirely obvious, but very likely. Now, even from the point of view of pragmatism, it is not worthwhile to put the relations of the Turks with the minke whales and us on one scale ... who knows, who will outweigh it.
                      2. cniza 2 March 2020 14: 03 New
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                        Let's not guess, time will put everything in its place ...
                    2. Reptiloid 2 March 2020 14: 55 New
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                      Quote: cniza
                      If the Sultan is dropped, then purely pro-American will come and it will not become easier for us.

                      There is an example of the pro-American border of our borders ---- Ukraine. So, if there are any unrest in Turkey ---- we don’t need at all.
                2. Reptiloid 2 March 2020 14: 44 New
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                  Quote: cniza
                  .... And this is the picture:
                  Erdogan will soon have to prepare for the presidential election, therefore he needs at least some tactical successes in Syria to present them to the electorate. At the same time, the opposition raised its head. And the money for a military adventure goes huge. Therefore, he is waiting for a favorable moment in order to distort facts in his usual manner, making himself a winner in wars. It is clear that these Goebbels methods will have nothing in common with the truth.
                  Yes, indeed, but he will come up with something, somehow he will try to sit on different chairs at the same time or alternately sit !!!!!! am East is a delicate matter....
      2. Reptiloid 2 March 2020 11: 23 New
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        Quote: rocket757
        .... "sins" then a lot of him! A small victorious war game, this is something in such cases ... pan or gone!
        Huge plans and goals, exaltation, that’s where he plays. Good afternoon, Victor hi
        1. rocket757 2 March 2020 12: 05 New
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          Quote: Reptiloid
          Huge plans and goals, exaltation, this is where he plays

          Yes, he wants to win the elections, he wants power ... he doesn’t have enough of his supporters, he will be pulled by ultra nationalists ... and then the grass will not grow, then.
          1. Reptiloid 2 March 2020 14: 50 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            ..... Yes, he wants to win the elections, he wants power ... he doesn’t have enough of his supporters, he will pull ultra nationalists ... and then the grass will not grow, then.

            Fethullah Gullen, along with his supporters, he probably dreams in nightmares
            1. rocket757 2 March 2020 18: 14 New
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              There is the same political mess as in many other countries. That is the present world.
              1. Reptiloid 2 March 2020 19: 34 New
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                States, NATO allies, Gullen hosted negative oh how ugly negative
                Well they are allies, What then can non-allies expect recourse
  4. 16329 4 March 2020 21: 49 New
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    In Turkey, there are very influential forces advocating the separation of the European part and the Greater Constantinople region along with the Aegean coast from Turkish Anatolia
    They believe that such a "pro-European" Turkey will easily join the EU and reconcile with Greece
    The fate of Anatolia does not interest them
    1. rocket757 4 March 2020 23: 01 New
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      Small-town interests! Everything is very familiar and never leads to anything good.
      1. 16329 5 March 2020 01: 18 New
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        These are not small-town interests, this is the opinion of some of the elite groups closely associated with the military and state elite
  • Errr 2 March 2020 06: 52 New
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    And why did Russia suddenly for no reason disintegrate on a religious basis? smile
    In fact, there are not so many regions with a predominance of adherents of Islam in the Russian Federation. These are Tataria and Bashkiria in the middle Volga basin, and 5 small-sized North Caucasian republics: Karachay-Cherkessia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Ingushetia, Chechnya and Dagestan. Here they are on the map below:
    As we can see, even when separating the “green” regions from all the rest (which in itself is nonsense of a sick imagination), the collapse of the entire Russian structure as a whole does not work out at all. What a sadness of Turkish Wishlins !!! laughing laughing laughing
    1. Sergej1972 2 March 2020 08: 53 New
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      Considering that the Tatars in Tatarstan are slightly more than half the population, and that some Tatars are Orthodox (Kryashen), and at the same time many of them are weakly religious, it is not entirely correct to talk about the absolute dominance of Islam in this republic. For many Kabardians, Circassians, Abazins, Adyghe people, it is important not only to belong to Islam, but also a sense of belonging to the Adyghe (Circassian) world.
      1. Errr 2 March 2020 08: 57 New
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        drinks For mutual understanding! I don’t know about you, but I, as an inveterate atheist, can always. lol
      2. Dog
        Dog 2 March 2020 10: 19 New
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        Quote: Sergej1972
        Given that the Tatars

        But the Bashkirs didn’t have any particular zeal in this matter.
    2. siberalt 2 March 2020 09: 08 New
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      Religion for this purpose is intended so that the peoples divide under their flocks and cut their loot, and not unite, even as part of a single state. So far there have been no more bloody wars than religious wars in the history of mankind. Last World is no exception.
      Please do not confuse religion with Faith, which religion has privatized. Ideology and theology are twin sisters.
      1. Dog
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        Quote: siberalt
        Religion for this purpose is intended so that the peoples divide under their flocks and cut their loot, and not unite, even as part of a single state

        If there had not been Orthodoxy in Russia, Russia would not have become a great power.
        Before the Battle of Kulikova, Sergius of Radonezh, for example, went to the princes and urged them to unite for the cause. And convinced! He did what the "elder" princes could not carry out for several centuries.
        1. nickname7 2 March 2020 11: 42 New
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          Sergius of Radonezh, for example, went to the princes

          First of all, religion is an autogenic training, with the help of it you can increase motivation, but the princes united not because of Radonezh, but for political reasons.
          But in general, the merit of Orthodoxy is indeed there, but as an element of the culture of the thousand-year-old civilization of Rome and the Greeks who built stone cities, which had philosophy, jurisprudence, geometry, etc.
          The proof that autogenous training cannot defeat reality and hostile countries is 1917, when the church-like RI collapsed.
      2. Errr 2 March 2020 10: 39 New
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        Suddenly you made me refresh my memory. smile
        Somehow he himself climbed out of the depths of her dialogue between Napoleon and Laplace (not without Yandex help, of courselol).
        Napoleon:
        Great Newton all the time refers to God, and you wrote such a huge book about the system of the world and you never mentioned God!
        Laplace:
        Sire, I did not need this hypothesis.
        I agree with Laplace for all 100! I do not want to cloud my mind with absolutely unprovable postulates. This makes no sense. And humanity in man is not from faith in God. She is from faith in Man.
    3. icant007 2 March 2020 10: 59 New
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      Quote: Herrr
      These are Tataria and Bashkiria in the middle Volga basin, and 5 small-sized North Caucasian republics: Karachay-Cherkessia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Ingushetia, Chechnya and Dagestan.


      There are many Muslims in the Chelyabinsk region, Sverdlovsk, Orenburg, Khanty-Mansiysk, Astrakhan.

      And the Khanty-Mansiysk region is one of the donor regions of Russia, and one of the largest oil and gas regions in the world.

      What can I say, if in Moscow there are about 400 thousand Muslims. It is not by chance that it is called "Moskvabad")
      Moreover, there is a tendency to the growth of adherents of Islam in Russia.

      Yes, and migration comes to us from Central Asia.
      And in Central Asia, Turkey is very much fighting for its influence.

      So, I would take the Islamic factor very seriously.

      And the majority does not need to light a fire.
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        Quote: icant007
        And the majority does not need to light a fire.
        It is better not to play with fire at all and not to give matches to children. Every action causes a reaction of equal magnitude and opposite in direction. As the saying goes, God forbid, if again it will be "from under the black shirts a red cock is torn." First of all, this very green borzoi minority will not seem a little.
  • Slavutich 2 March 2020 07: 02 New
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    Our country, no matter how it is called - the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union or the Russian Federation, has never experienced cardinal problems due to conflicts caused by religious or national reasons

    This is not true. The civil war in the Russian Federation, the collapse of the USSR - was fueled by this kind of conflict!
    An external factor is not excluded, but the “leaven” was internal, as if now there are no territories in the RF free from the laws of the Russian Federation?
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      Civil war in the Republic of Ingushetia
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      Quote: Slavutich
      This is not true. The civil war in the Russian Federation, the collapse of the USSR - was fueled by this kind of conflict!

      What are you talking about? Ukraine and Belarus - the Orthodox were separated, and many Muslim republics remained in the composition. What inter-confessional conflict between the Russian Federation, Belarus and the Czech Republic could contribute to this?
      On the contrary, when these newly minted states easily severed ties with our country, they could not sever religious ties. Look, Ukraine is trying to separate itself from our Church - is this, in your opinion, because the Church contributed to its separation? On the contrary! Orthodoxy, whether you like it or not, has always been the cement on which Russia rested. It has held for centuries, and today it is not in the least degree held. And Soviet ideology has degraded over several decades so that it has not been able to keep our state intact.
  • svp67 2 March 2020 07: 26 New
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    Before giving “frightening” forecasts regarding Russia, Mesut Khaki should have paid attention to the problems of his own country,
    They are trying to solve their problems so, let's see how they succeed ...
  • Grandfather Crimea 2 March 2020 07: 30 New
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    Correctly said, first remove the log from your eye, and then you will understand how to help brother remove the speck from his eye.
  • Ros 56 2 March 2020 07: 57 New
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    Stupid politicians apparently forgot what Turkey faced with its clashes with Russia. After all, a repetition is possible, your descendants will be damned.
  • cniza 2 March 2020 08: 57 New
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    However, instead, the Turkish authorities preferred to burn down entire Kurdish villages and ruthlessly crack down on their inhabitants,


    Why did they prefer, they are doing it now ...
  • Gene84 2 March 2020 09: 06 New
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    Turkish elites can dream about anything. It is another thing to make your dreams come true. Often such a process is not possible at all.
  • Mavrikiy 2 March 2020 09: 10 New
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    Dreams of Turkish elites about the collapse of Russia
    Turk, he is. The Turkish Empire reduced its territory by 7 times. From 5,2 million km² to 783 563 km² (36th in the world), and this pile has not yet stopped decomposition.
  • Sergej1972 2 March 2020 09: 11 New
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    The figure of 25 million Muslims in the Russian Federation is doubtful. She is clearly overpriced. The population of all republics of the Russian Federation, taken together, is 27 million people. But in many of them Russians predominate in number, while the “titular” (the term is not officially used now, but is used in journalism) Orthodox or Buddhists - Karelia, Komi, Udmurtia, Mordovia, Mari El, Buryatia (some are shamanists and Orthodox ), Kalmykia. In Yakutia, Chuvashia, Tuva, there are more Yakuts, Chuvashs, and Tuvans than Russians (in the Chuvashia Chuvashs are absolutely dominant, there are many Russians in Yakutia, but slightly less than the Yakuts), while the majority of Chuvash are Orthodox, most Yakuts are also Orthodox, Tuvans are Buddhists. Quite a lot of Muslims in the Orenburg and Astrakhan regions and the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, but they are still a clear minority in these regions. It is incorrect to consider Central Asian migrant workers without Russian citizenship.
  • Departure 2 March 2020 09: 33 New
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    In 2007, my colleagues, graduates of DGU, said that the Turks actively courted Dagestan youth, organized free trips for students to Turkey, with lectures on brotherhood, faith, etc., tossed grants. The bottom line, I heard from them that the Turks are our brothers and we will never fight with them. This is on the one hand. And on the other, there is a three-day bus tour of the Caucasus, a gallop across Europe, of course, but not the point. So, the Chechen guides and local people intelligently hint that the Chechens did not want to join us, and if the opportunity suddenly arises ... (last year). How many wolves do not feed, as they say. The Turks already had one opportunity to tear Chechnya away, but they wanted more, no luck. They will not miss the second opportunity, so yes, here one region is already ready and the environment is ideologically prepared.
    Regarding the Kurds and those who urge them to unite :) In our Tambov region they appeared in the 2000s, I open Wikipedia, I look at 2010 of them 2500, 0,2% of the total population, how many now, God knows him. Initially, they arrived as refugees in two groups, one to us, the second to Tatarstan. If my memory serves me right, in 2005-7, amounting to about 2000 at that time, they petitioned Putin to organize an autonomous republic of Kurdistan on the territory of the Tambov Region. Putin naturally refused, according to rumors saying that he would not allow a second Chechnya in the center of Russia. Their leader here in Tambov region filed an application for the resettlement of another 10000 Kurds "to raise the demography of the region." In practice, their resettlement turned into an unprecedented surge in crime in the region, pressure on the police, drug trafficking, and rape. The Kurds just went into the shops, took what they wanted and left, beating those who told them something. Harassing local girls or pestering those who are a couple for them is the norm. Now they are tamed, but for how long? And if you come another 10 thousand? By the way, they also got the population of Tatarstan, and the initiative group of Tatars asked them to evict to hell, until the blood spilled.
    Guys, let the Kurds unite, but that's just not necessary about everything, ok? Somewhere elsewhere. Maybe the Turks are right about them?
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    Dog 2 March 2020 09: 54 New
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    "25 million Muslims"

    Orthodox obviously will be more. So for now, in this regard, the adviser of Erdogan should not worry about the results, in which case.
    And so, there are certain problems in this matter. Many, if not all, of the spiritual leaders of our Muslims go through or studied in Turkey. I believe that this is fundamentally not the right approach to business.
  • Alexfly 2 March 2020 10: 58 New
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    Probably, Mesutu Khaki, forgot the main postulate of any religion: Faith is Me, not us .......
  • ZaharoFF 2 March 2020 11: 25 New
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    Kurds can send these dreamers to the dustbin of history. If they also have helpers, they will send 100% soldier
  • 16112014nk 2 March 2020 14: 40 New
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    To have such a "friend" as neosultan (as Putin has said more than once - about Erdogan’s friend and partner), and there’s no need for enemies. It is necessary to help the Kurds, and to begin with, to close the tourist flow to Turkey.
    "We do not need the Turkish coast ...." ©
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  • iouris 4 March 2020 22: 58 New
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    This is an old story. And what do we want: the Turks see that our state has long been in a state of half-life. Why not try to get at least a shred of wool? Our state needs to do something to prevent such dreams.
  • otto9966 9 March 2020 07: 16 New
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    "I never experienced cardinal problems due to conflicts caused by religious or national reasons" ........ is there some kind of idyll .. but the department of peoples? And ethnic conflicts in the USSR? And systematic killings by skinheads of people with a different skin color in large cities of Russia?
    And the slogans "Russia for Russians" ......?