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Sweden modernizes submarine fleet: old submarines will be sold to Poland

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Sweden, despite its two centuries of neutrality, has seriously taken up the issue of preserving and strengthening the combat effectiveness of its underwater fleet. Now in Stockholm they want to keep in service as many submarines as possible.


Despite the long history, Now the Swedish naval forces are very small. The personnel of the country's Navy has a total of 2100 people (according to 2015), but the Swedish fleet has 5 submarines. Among the Swedish submarines are 3 submarines of the Gotland type and 2 submarines of the Södermanland type. Two more Westerjötland-class submarines were removed from service with the Swedish Navy in 2 and sold to Singapore.

As it became known, Stockholm is currently negotiating with the Ministry of National Defense of Poland. The Swedes are going to sell the Poles just 2 submarines of the Södermanland type. In Poland, it is hoped that the acquisition of two Swedish submarines will significantly increase the combat potential of the country's naval forces. The Polish military department expects that the Swedish side will first hand over one submarine A17 / Södermanland (HMwMS Östergötland), and then the second submarine (HSwMS Södermanland) will turn.

But the likely sale of two of the five submarines to Poland does not mean that Sweden intends to reduce its submarine fleet. Stockholm is convinced that at least five submarines are needed for the full defense of Sweden. Therefore, at the same time, the Swedish leadership is in talks with Singapore. This Asian country could sell Sweden two Archer submarines, which were added to the Singapore Navy in 2011 and 2013.

Interestingly, the Singapore Archer was initially completely not Singaporean, but Swedish submarines. This is the HMwMS Hälsingland and the HMwMS Västergötland, which were once sold to Singapore, where they underwent repairs and upgrades.

However, the news of Sweden’s plans to sell two submarines to Poland may affect Singapore’s position: cunning Singaporean leaders can easily increase the price of submarines, realizing that if Sweden transfers 2 submarines to Poland, and according to plans it should have 5 submarines, then nothing prevents bargaining for more favorable terms.

Meanwhile, the issue of submarines is considered in a very important Swedish document - the White Paper on Sweden’s security policy and the development of military defense in 2021–2025. It is emphasized in it that in 2030-2035. three Gotland-class submarines must be replaced. But the deadlines for the construction of a new generation submarine, Blekinge, are being delayed: if in Stockholm it was hoped that they would put it into operation in 2023, it is now clear that this will happen no earlier than 2025.

Thus, if now the Swedes pass the submarines to Poland, they will only be left with three submarines, one of which is in unsatisfactory condition. For the Navy command, such a prospect is not desirable, since five submarines in service are an acceptable minimum for Sweden, and now in Stockholm they are increasingly talking about the need to have six submarines.

Both Sweden and Poland are concerned about building up the power of their submarine fleet exclusively in the context of Russia's confrontation. Interestingly, Sweden, which has not been at war with anyone for two centuries, considers Russia a potential threat and is no less belligerent than Poland.

It is clear that the increase in the number of submarines in the Baltic, which Poland is counting on, will be carried out to increase the combat capabilities of the Alliance against Russia. Sweden, by the way, is actively involved in the United States, if not in the alliance itself, then in joint military activities along with other Scandinavian and Baltic NATO members.
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  1. Stalllker
    Stalllker 26 February 2020 09: 23 New
    +2
    Well done !!! 2100 people, 5 submarines, do not enter any military bloc and do not soar ... And they are also trying to "arm" the "formidable" Poles
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 29 February 2020 11: 23 New
      +1
      Officially, they are not included in the block, but they are always ready to help. Boats, ore, bearings, volunteers.
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 29 February 2020 12: 52 New
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        Like any other country that gets paid for such a "help"
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 26 February 2020 09: 24 New
    +1
    Sweden modernizes submarine fleet: old submarines will be sold to Poland

    in geyrope sho, only one beggar? there seems to be someone else on the way and for this "bread place in the sun", they can compete with anyone!
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 27 February 2020 19: 29 New
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      Swedish boats, even heavily used, cannot be cheap. Where are the Pshek going to get the money from? They were also going to buy F-35s, and Brussels was going to cut their rations heavily.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 27 February 2020 19: 52 New
        +1
        Some wish to live in their .... dreams / fantasies. You can’t forbid them from doing this .... only they stumble when the time comes.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 27 February 2020 20: 04 New
          +1
          Fantasy is certainly a good thing, but it is better for the president, prime minister and defense minister to be realistic. And now the most important question for them is how much Brussels will "cut rations." And there they are serious, they are pretty tired of Pshek's games of independence.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 February 2020 06: 41 New
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            Politicians have forgotten how to be realistic ... many of their fantasies do not emerge at all!
            The irony is that the man in the street in many fantasies prefers to "kumarit", although he really should remember that he will have to live on earth, sinful, constantly and always.
  3. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 February 2020 09: 30 New
    +1
    And will the Poles sell the Khokh Lam these boats?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 26 February 2020 09: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: Ros 56
      And will the Poles sell the Khokh Lam these boats?

      It may very well be. And at the cost of new ones!
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 26 February 2020 09: 35 New
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        Perhaps so, but the most interesting thing is different, in which case ours will simply drown them.
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 27 February 2020 20: 06 New
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        Haha three times, the banderlog even did not have enough money for Turkish scrap metal. And the Swedish will be newer and more expensive.
  4. Lopatov
    Lopatov 26 February 2020 09: 31 New
    +3
    "Two centuries of Swedish neutrality" has never been neutrality
  5. V.I.P.
    V.I.P. 26 February 2020 09: 34 New
    +1
    Strange strategy. Sell ​​boats to Singapore, and then buy these boats back .... It’s better to buy new, modern ones. They will last longer and there is no need to upgrade ..... One plus in buying junk back is a ready-made infrastructure for training, service and possibly a price. But in the future is a dubious decision
    1. knn54
      knn54 26 February 2020 10: 12 New
      0
      We look forward to the continuation of this "exciting" story.
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 26 February 2020 09: 34 New
    +3
    Swedish-Singaporean MMM. Sold / bought back and forth. And the fat in your pocket. And no corruption, because everything is "fair"
    1. Masha
      Masha 26 February 2020 10: 53 New
      +2
      Bash on the tower - you will not lose ... lol
  7. Mouse
    Mouse 26 February 2020 09: 41 New
    +3
    Interestingly, Sweden, which has not fought with anyone for two centuries, considers Russia a potential threat and is no less belligerent than Poland

    Hysteria is contagious!
  8. sergo1914
    sergo1914 26 February 2020 11: 02 New
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    Both Sweden and Poland are concerned about building up the power of their submarine fleet exclusively in the context of Russia's confrontation.


    I have just understood the meaning of the expression "phantasmagoria of decadence."
    1. cniza
      cniza 26 February 2020 13: 43 New
      +2
      In my opinion, he turns them from a depressive into an epileptic. yes
  9. Domobran
    Domobran 26 February 2020 12: 01 New
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    And the Swedes themselves are building their new submarines?
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 26 February 2020 21: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: Domobran
      And the Swedes themselves are building their new submarines?

      All these boats are the development and construction of the state Swedish company Kokums.
      Their main feature is VNEU based on the Stirling engine. - Also a Swedish development.
      Japanese Kawasaki bought a license from the Swedes and produces similar VNEU for its fleet.
  10. cniza
    cniza 26 February 2020 13: 39 New
    +2
    In Poland, it is hoped that the acquisition of two Swedish submarines will significantly increase the combat potential of the country's naval forces.


    This is if the owner permits, he apparently still does not know, he has more for sale ...
  11. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 26 February 2020 14: 16 New
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    Point blank I don’t understand why this Baltic is in wartime. Not a single cargo ship will pass through it anyway, and any enemy ship will be immediately sunk from the shore.

    Submarines as carriers of cruise missiles are also debatable. A couple of hundred kilometers closer to the border - not so much a win.