American Patriot air defense system will receive a new radar

The American Patriot anti-aircraft missile system will receive a new radar. As reported "Warspot" With reference to the defensenews.com portal, Raytheon supplied the US Army with the first model of a promising radar developed as part of the LTAMDS project.

Reportedly, the new promising LTAMDS radar, although developed as part of the Patriot air defense system upgrade program, will be included in the new Integrated Air and Missile Defense System missile system, which will subsequently replace the Patriot air defense system. The Americans are not much spread about the new system, it is known that the new radar has a circular view (thanks to two additional rear installations), an increased detection range, which is enough "even for promising missiles of the air defense system."

The first radar model will be tested as part of the Patriot air defense system; by the end of 2022, Raytheon will have to deliver six pre-production radar samples for testing. The timing of the adoption of a new radar in service and the start of mass production has not yet been reported.

Previously, the American Patriot air defense system was repeatedly criticized, including for its inability to detect low-flying and small-sized air targets. The US Army hopes that with the introduction of a new radar into the air defense system, the capabilities of the complex will increase significantly.

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[Mavrikiy]

The American Patriot anti-aircraft missile system will receive a new radar.

Do not confuse? Impression - new condition.

[Sky strike fighter]

So poked processors that need cooling.

According to US News, Turkey is currently negotiating the purchase by Turkey of the MIM-104 Patriot PAC-3 SAM. Air defense systems of this type provide detection, recognition and tracking of 125 air objects in the entire range of ranges and altitudes. It also provides simultaneous guidance of missiles at eight targets, three for each. The maximum firing range is 100 km. The height of the defeat of ballistic targets - up to 20 km. The probability of hitting an airplane is 0,8-0,9, and a tactical missile is 0,6-0,8 with one missile in the absence of interference. The maximum speed of the target being hit is 1600 m / s.

https://m.gazeta.ru/army/2020/02/21/12971341.shtml
Are the dimensions large for the new promising LTAMDS radar, sort of like a radar for medium-range air defense systems? Or do Americans make a request for a system comparable in performance with the S-400?

[Avior]

Normal size. For accurate defeat of ballistic targets, you need to track their flight path as far as possible, much further than the range of destruction

[PSih2097]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

for a new promising radar

The people, like the majority in the military, let's call a spade a spade.
Not a radar, but a radar, we do not live in foreign lands ...

[Vladimir_2U]

What did you want, powerful video processors require powerful cooling, but the fact that you are tormented by changing the position is so nonsense! )))

[TermNachTer]

And how much will this not very mobile pleasure cost?

[Jack O'Neill]

Patriot is a stationary air defense, not a mobile one. It is deployed for a long time in one position. So the size is not critical at all.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

What did you want, powerful video processors require powerful cooling, but the fact that you are tormented by changing the position is so nonsense! )))

I agree with one thing that the US Army and the rest of the world are increasingly using electronics of civilian components (COTS technology). This is a global trend.
Allows you to make a giant increase in performance and algorithms for much less money.

I disagree with the second.
S-300, S-400 are as mobile as the Patriot actually is.

[mark1]

How many fans (maybe air conditioners)! In a different way, how not to place it, does it look very vulnerable?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: mark1

How many fans (maybe air conditioners)! In a different way, how not to place it, does it look very vulnerable?

This is probably the whole trick. They now moving targets will simply blow off the course and "blow" them away from the protected objects.

[Operator]

The research program Integrated Air and Missile Defense System has not yet reached the level of OCD - it turns out that the Russian Federation with the S-500 and then ahead of the United States?

And yes - how does a radar with an antenna located at ground level (10 km radio horizon) help in defense against low-flying targets?

[neri73-r]

Quote: Operator

And yes - how does a radar with an antenna located at ground level (10 km radio horizon) help in defense against low-flying targets?

On the hills will be set ....

[NEXUS]

Quote: Operator

that the Russian Federation with the S-500 and then ahead of the United States?

Patriot and Prometheus are completely different class complexes.

[Operator]

What does the Integrated Air and Missile Defense System have to do with Patriot?

[PSih2097]

Quote: Operator

What does the Integrated Air and Missile Defense System have to do with Patriot?

And the states except the patriot and the Taad have some other long-range air defense systems ???
Graphic depiction of a deployed command post of a promising integrated combat and air defense missile defense system Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD) Battle Command System (IBCS) of the US Army (c) Norhrop Grumman

Whole article: https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2959784.html

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Operator

What does the Integrated Air and Missile Defense System have to do with Patriot?

direct.
SAM Patriot is a component of the IAMD and IBCS systems.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Operator

Integrated Air and Missile Defense System

In my opinion you are not the topic.
The program has been working for a long time.
And even in August last year, successful tests were conducted.
When, for a low-altitude target, followed by the very scanty radars from NASAMS and Avenger, the Patriot launched an over-the-horizon launch, which was successfully aimed and destroyed the target, without the participation of its own radar.

So learn again the part and do not try to look omniscient.

You do not succeed.

[rocket757]

Americans don’t spread much about the new system,

Stripes need to give a real new name to their product ... Schaub the customers did not have unpleasant associations.
And so, in fact, until you understand, they will build a ground "shield" or everything will also be adjusted from the concept that they will be the first to hit, and then there will be nothing to fly on them ???
It’s not clear what they thought up.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: rocket757

It’s not clear what they thought up.

What is there to think? Saw the dough.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: rocket757

It’s not clear what they thought up.

Everything will be clear to you if you read about IAMD and IBCS.

If it will be really interesting to you.

[rocket757]

Quote: SovAr238A

Everything will be clear to you if you read about IAMD and IBCS.

The technical aspects of the functioning of the systems, everything can be understood ... but this does not bring us any closer to understanding what the MOST IMPORTANT PARTIES want to achieve!
Who are we \ them the most important ??? Politicians! So you can say that you understand what you’ve decided, they want to achieve THEY.
Recall the SOI program !!! This was a divorce of their geopolitical opponents, the same POLITICIANS, self-confident to the extreme .... although real experts reported to them that this is not a sale of bullshit.

[Vasyan1971]

Figase, kondeev pushed!

[g1washntwn]

In the version for the BV and the tropics, the kit will include one more separate trailer with cooling equipment and a company of waved fans

[Vasyan1971]

This is how many suitcases with batteries will be needed?

[cniza]

The US Army hopes that with the introduction of a new radar into the air defense system, the capabilities of the complex will increase significantly.

With what to compare, what was, how will be?

[Sky strike fighter]

It was like this. And how it will be classified.

AN / MPQ-53

The multifunctional radar has the main transceiver headlight, which is used when detecting, tracking and highlighting targets, tracking enemy missiles and transmitting commands. This is a grid with a spatial approach way of feeding, which consists of 5161 radiating component with ferrite phase shifters. In this case, the entire viewed area is divided into 32 sectors (each of 90 square degrees), when viewing each of them, the radar scans line by line with the headlamp beam. Scanning takes 3,2 seconds.

5,5 wavelength range - 6,7 cm (4-6 GHz)
Sector overview in search mode:
azimuth from + 45 to −45 °
by elevation 1 - 73 °
Accompanying sector in rocket guidance mode:
azimuth from + 55 to −55 °
by elevation 1 - 83 °
Detection range for ESR targets:
0,1 m² (head of the rocket) 70 km,
0,5 m² (rocket) - 100 km
1,5 m² (fighter) - 130 km
10 m² (bomber) - 180 km
simultaneous tracking of up to 125 targets
maximum target speed 2200 m / s
simultaneous guidance to 6 rockets
8-10 detection time seconds
25 minutes deployment time
The radar is set in the direction of the expected threat, and also maintains such a position during firing. The direction of the antenna in azimuth can be changed remotely, in the intervals between the reflections of the raids: on command from the start of control, by turning the entire radar relative to the semi-trailer.

http://avia.pro/blog/zrk-patriot-foto-harakteristiki-video

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: cniza

The US Army hopes that with the introduction of a new radar into the air defense system, the capabilities of the complex will increase significantly.

With what to compare, what was, how will be?

What can only be assumed. The promotion of the LTAMDS (Lower Tier Air and Missile Defense Sensor) program, to strengthen airspace control at low altitudes in the interests of air defense and missile defense, is probably associated with the failures of Patriot in Saudi Arabia (a blow to the oil fields) and Iraq (a blow Iran based in the USA).

detection range of small targets with an EPR of the order of 0,01 sq. m through the main antenna post can increase up to 90-100 km in comparison with 45-50 km in MPQ-65.

Moreover, the use of individual low-noise microwave transistors based on semiconductor gallium nitride in the transmitting and transmitting modules will allow expanding the radiation pattern in the lower sector by reducing the elevation angle of the beam of the new station to -3 / -5 degrees, which will allow to detect and effectively track targets at altitudes 3 — 5 m. According to this indicator, LTAMDS will be compared with domestic radars 9С36 of Buk-M2 systems, and possibly unique low-altitude detectors Podlet-K1, adapted for operation with goals, loitering over mountainous terrain with belittling of several hundred meters. Equipping two additional stationary AFAR modules with a total azimuthal viewing sector of about 200 degrees will provide the new LTAMDS station with the ability to view the entire airspace without any delay in the rate of updating radar information, which is observed with a low-altitude detector such as Podlet-K1 or a centimeter high 96L6 detector, which is part of the S-400 Triumph air defense system.

https://topwar.ru/163708-panika-v-ssha-v-svjazi-s-fiasko-pjetriotov-privela-k-neozhidannomu-rezultatu-proekt-ltamds.html

[cniza]

Thank you for the information, the existing performance characteristics are not very good, and what will happen when we find out. .

[Nikolay3]

Quote: Yevgeny Damantsev

Moreover, the use of individual transceiver modules low-noise microwave transistors based on semiconductor gallium nitride will expand the radiation pattern in the lower sectorby reducing the elevation angle of the beam of the new station to -3 / -5 degrees

Sky Strike fighter (Maxim), do not give an article by Evgeny Damantsev with terrible mistakes ...https://topwar.ru/163708-panika-v-ssha-v-svjazi-s-fiasko-pjetriotov-privela-k-neozhidannomu-rezultatu-proekt-ltamds.html
He made such a mistake - it’s right, due to the increase in the number of anti-missile systems, the overview in the lower sector of the AFU will expand, and not the radiation pattern - otherwise, the azimuth and elevation resolution decreases! But this simply can not be!

Quote: Yevgeny Damantsev

SAM Patriot PAC ‑ 2 is designed to provide cover for small areas from tactical ballistic missile attacks. SAM not only deflects missiles from the target, but also completely eliminates them.

Written by the author is complete nonsense!

[vvvjak]

And where is the mobile nuclear power plant to power this "splendor"?

[orionvitt]

The US Army hopes that with the introduction of a new radar into the air defense system, the capabilities of the complex will increase significantly.

Oh how they hope... A strange formulation in the development of the latest military equipment. Maybe they also "thought" that the new radar would be better? Well, hope is said to be the last to die.

[Fantazer911]

Previously, the American Patriot air defense system was repeatedly criticized, including for its inability to detect low-flying and small-sized air targets. The US Army hopes that with the introduction of a new radar into the air defense system, the capabilities of the complex will increase significantly.

And also its price tag for potential buyers!

[gloomy fox]

what kind of new cartoon did they draw here? with so many coolers in a hot climate But can a crypt be mined on it?

[Prahlad]

It is very doubtful ... A quadcopter will fly for $ 20 and the end to it .. Given its angles.

[Operator]

Quote: PSih2097

states other than patriot and taad have some other long-range air defense systems

From the point of view of research, the Integrated Air and Missile Defense System should be - in the future, of course.