Ukrainians from the cruise ship “Diamond Princess” refuse to evacuate to their homeland

Against the background of more than a peculiar meeting of Ukrainians evacuated from Chinese Wuhan in the homeland, the situation with the citizens of this country from the Diamond Princess cruise ship is noteworthy. Quarantine measures due to the outbreak of coronavirus on an ocean liner located in the port of Japanese Yokohama ended several days ago. Of the nearly 4000 passengers and crew, more than 600 were infected with the COVID-19 virus.

The consular service of Ukraine said that Ukrainian citizens remaining in Yokoham were invited to evacuate to their homeland. As it turns out, the vast majority of citizens refused to evacuate to Ukraine: 24 out of 25 people. One "did not refuse" just because nothing was known about his decision - Ukrainian diplomats simply had no connection with him.

The representative of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said that at present two Ukrainians are in one of the Japanese clinics.

From the report:

We offered them all an evacuation, but 24 out of 25 people refused. With one, we are still trying to establish a connection. They are representatives of the crew of the cruise ship. And their decision is dictated not only by the contract, but also by personal wishes.

In Ukraine itself, it was suggested that Ukrainians with the “Diamond Princess” could see footage from Novy Sanzhar, where compatriots evacuated from Wuhan were met by local residents. A few days ago, protesting against the placement of evacuated in the sanatorium, residents of Novy Sanzhar threw stones at buses, burned tires, and got into a fight with the police. President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky then called it a manifestation of the "European Middle Ages" in the country.

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[rocket757]

The situation is unpleasant ... but there is NO trust in what is written in the media from the word at all.

[Uncle lee]

Of the nearly 4000 passengers and crew, more than 600 were infected

It was necessary to guess the quarantine from the liner! Only a samurai sophisticated mind could come up with this! Something similar to the Fukushima helplessness and stupidity ...
PS And Ukrainians have a better plague liner than a warm meeting at home.

[cniza]

Yeah, they set up an incubator for infection ...

[Chaldon48]

In their homeland, the virus will be knocked out with sticks, like dust from a carpet.

[krot]

The situation is unpleasant ... but there is NO trust in what is written in the media from the word at all.

The situation is cool! The great "Sumerians" in their Sumerians staged "genocide" against their own citizens. Not surprising, because the ideology of Bendery is exactly that! Whether this is true or not, does not negate the fact that people are afraid to return to their homeland. There they will be literally hunted down. Therefore, I don't see anything surprising, after the news from the Sumeria itself, how buses block and burn tires again))
Or is fake about buses too?)

[rocket757]

Quote: krot

Or is fake about buses too?

To say that people do not want to return home, simply because being afraid, is too much.
A house is a house, and they do not come back in such situations.
The media did not indicate the explanations of the real, it slipped through that it was staff, service staff and their contracts were not completed ... this is more credible.

[Incvizitor]

Purification of the Ukrainian race from inferior individuals, to save budget funds.
Somewhere it was like that ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Chaldon48

In their homeland, the virus will be knocked out with sticks, like dust from a carpet.

Something like this. They preferred to fight the virus on the liner and survive than to return to their native nenko and die when they were clogged with sticks and stones.

[Rzzz]

What "unified ship ventilation system" are you talking about? Do you know how it works, or are you just singing along in the style of a jelly-board?

[orionvitt]

Quote: rzzz

or just sing along in the style of cider nightingale?

Well, you seem to be the smartest where everyone else goes. Consume only "correct information" from "non-profit" sources. ... So share your knowledge about centralized ventilation and air conditioning systems on cruise (passenger) ships.

[Rzzz]

You are welcome. The cabins are supplied with ventilation, otherwise it does not happen. The climatic centers take air from the street, filter it off from dust, and provide primary cooling / heating, depending on the weather. Then everything is divorced into the cabins, where the heating / cooling and air flow rate are additionally regulated. Those. the air is supplied to the cabin from the street, and nothing else. It leaves the cabins through the windows, lattice panels in the doors - into the corridors, or exhaust ventilation (rarely). The hood usually comes from the corridors. And the sanblock cabins.
Unlike you, and from most minusers, I worked on a passenger ship.
Although I don’t know, maybe according to the rules of the Lloyd's Register, according to which the ship is built, it is somehow arranged differently there. I did not delve into.

[orionvitt]

Quote: rzzz

I worked on a passenger ship

Of course, this is exactly what distinguishes you from the "kissel-lord". People rely on the facts that more than 400 people got sick on the liner. And your extensive knowledge of "passenger ships" does not affect this in any way.

[Rzzz]

Quote: orionvitt

People rely on facts that more than 400 fell ill on the liner

In China itself, nearly 80 thousand people fell ill. What then needs to be said based on this fact? There is no steamer, no ventilation. And what does this have to do with ventilation ?.
And anyway, what kind of cheap demagoguery it is. You asked to tell about the ventilation device, I am a kind person, I do not send a fuck. He told. Now you say that it doesn’t matter, and that I told you does not affect anything. Let us have constructive communication, otherwise I don’t feel like it.

[orionvitt]

Quote: rzzz

In China itself, nearly 80 thousand people fell ill. What then needs to be said based on this fact?

From one and a half billion .. And on the liner, 600 out of 4000. That is, every seventh. Much more constructive. What data do you still need? I repeat once again, your knowledge from the field of shipbuilding does not mean anything.

[Rzzz]

Quote: orionvitt

your knowledge in the field of shipbuilding does not mean anything.

And then you were interested in them? They do not mean, because it became clear to you that I will not be omitted from this. This is cheap trolling.

[Kisa]

Along the corridors they move to devour and it is enough to transfer the infection

[tihonmarine]

Quote from rudolf

It was believed that the liner is isolated from the outside world, and it is convenient to isolate passengers themselves in small cabins for the period of quarantine.

A couple of days ago I showed on the website a photo of one of the decks of the "Diamond", how many cabins there are. Cabins for 2 persons, but some passengers were with children. And what kind of security can be talked about if you have a double bed for two, eating places are shared, etc. The virus spreads instantly.

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Uncle Lee

It was necessary to guess the quarantine from the liner!

It just threw people into extinction, where there are no conditions for quarantine, and this was clear from the very beginning. All our "waterfowl" participants can confirm this.

[bistrov.]

Quote: rocket757

The situation is unpleasant ... but there is NO trust in what is written in the media from the word at all.

Why so?

[rocket757]

They lie a lot, that's why.
Run for a sensation, for the sake of the customer ....
"To separate the grain from the chaff" oh how difficult it is, if there is something to separate, in general.
In general, the dilemma without media is no longer possible, but it is not easy with them.

[akunin]

Today I read on the Internet that experts are traveling to Iran (there is an outbreak) and through the Caucasus to the south of Russia (a matter of time), and the news is quiet (about Iran).

[orionvitt]

Quote: akunin

read today on the internet

On the Internet, unlike the official Russian state-owned media, no one bears responsibility for the veracity of the information. In the official media, in contrast to various Internet information dumps, they often refute, and do not even believe, sometimes they apologize for inaccurate information. Everything still depends on the information policy of the state itself. I don’t remember the case (at least in recent years) that the Russian media would have sounded outright lies. There are inaccuracies, I agree, but no one will lie frankly, changing everything upside down (according to the Western or Ukrainian model). Especially nowadays, when all the information can be checked. For all that I live in a frankly hostile and deceitful information environment, and believe me, there is nothing to compare.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Stroporez

And about the "crucified boy", increasing welfare

So I waited for someone to bite. They apologized for a long time about the "crucified boy", about increasing welfare and so on, you probably have your own channels, special ones. Hate Russia, say so. Or position yourself as "independent, creative, free-thinking", of those who are "we are in power here"? You seem to have deep personal problems, and pour them exclusively on the country in which you live. And on the question

Quote: orionvitt
and believe me, there is nothing to compare.

Believe this is nonsense? This is beyond good and evil!

I really have something to compare, since I live not in Russia. I see and hear nonsense every day.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: orionvitt

I really have something to compare, since I live not in Russia.

Clearly, agitation write here, live there, it says a lot. And now, from behind the hillock, will you roll cotton wool in my ears about who lives in Russia well?
These figures are full of zombies, citizens of Montenegro, Britain, Italy, Israel, the United States and other adversary countries, and we all broadcast how good we are, and it’s very bad in the West. I’m still thinking, what kind of mother should I send you all to?

Quote: orionvitt

You seem to have deep personal problems, and you pour them solely on the country in which you live

Ugh, you’re ...., again on the person .... We all have one big problem, and it started not yesterday, but almost 30 years ago. And we will deal with these problems ourselves, without your conclusions and advice!

[orionvitt]

Quote: Stroporez

will you roll cotton wool in my ears about who live well in Russia?

It’s useless to put something in your ears. It's too late, you already have everything laid down. And it looks like this, "everyone lies to us." They seem to be adults, but like children, by God. I would have your Russian problems, I would probably be the happiest person in the world. I look at you, and I understand that some of you just got drunk.

[akunin]

Quote: orionvitt

Quote: akunin

read today on the internet

In the official media, in contrast to various Internet information dumps, they often refute, and do not even believe, sometimes they apologize for inaccurate information. Everything still depends on the information policy of the state itself. I don’t remember the case (at least in recent years) that the Russian media would have sounded outright lies. There are inaccuracies, I agree, but no one will lie frankly, changing everything upside down (according to the Western or Ukrainian model).

In Russia, life expectancy for women increased to 78,5 years in seven months, for men - to 68,5 years, said the head of the Ministry of Health Veronika Skvortsova, speaking at the Eastern Economic Forum.

- the blatant lie quoted by all state media.

In April, the minister said that in 2018, life expectancy in Russia reached record levels, increasing for men by 0,3 years, and for women by 0,2 years.

to refresh your memory. the whole medical community laughed homerically

[tomket]

Quote: rocket757

The situation is unpleasant ... but there is NO trust in what is written in the media from the word at all.

Why then read? Go outside, the sky is blue, the birds are singing.

[cost]

rocket757 (Victor): The situation is unpleasant ... but there is NO trust in what is written in the media from the word at all.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine assures that the matter is not only in the desire of the citizens themselves, but also in the contract. The Ukrainians remaining on board the cruise ship are crew members

[rocket757]

All the same, when our media just say that it’s a nightmare and even more nightmare, it bothers me. They are not everywhere there, they certainly did not communicate with the Ukrainians on the ship, and therefore they can be misinterpreted.
There are so many bad things between our people and them, I am against aggravating the situation without any reason. It won’t be any better.
For specific personalities that were drawn in such a way that you won’t erase, it’s understandable, justified ... and so, all the rest, in bulk, is unnecessary. Responsibility should be personal.
Look in Odessa, real men with the flag of the Soviet Navy celebrated the holiday, this is ACT! These are OUR PEOPLE!

[orionvitt]

Quote: Rich

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine assures that the matter is not only in the desire of the citizens themselves, but also in the contract.

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry claims a lot, sometimes such that the question arises about the rationality of some communities of "homo sapiens". Two suspicions creep in here. Or the virus is actually not so bad that the risk of dying from the disease is less than the possibility of losing the contract, and for a good reason. Or it is better to get sick in a foreign land than to be an outcast in your homeland. The second is more likely, judging by the latest events.

[svp67]

And honestly, after the SHABASH that was arranged on the territory of Ukraine, in some of its regions, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND them. Better to fly with a "bucket behind the screen" and sit for two weeks with us, near Tyumen, than to return home ...

[Victor_B]

Quote: svp67

And honestly, after the SHABASH that was arranged on the territory of Ukraine, in some of its areas, I UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY.

I, too!
At the same time, people of Sharia were asking Kharkiv people questions on this topic, a normal attitude.
It seems that the West Enets is just one of the breeds of the Non-Humans.

[svp67]

Quote: Victor_B

It seems that the West Enets is just one of the breeds of the Non-Humans.

The Poltava residents somehow didn’t relate to them, but you see what they arranged ...
Kurkul psychology prevailed ...

[Victor_B]

Quote: svp67

Poltava residents somehow didn’t when they were

Well, the border between people and non-people is not always about administrative division.
And that Poltava is not a zapadentsy, so few people know in Russia.
I didn’t know.

[Horst78]

I have a dad from Tulchin, Vinnytsia region. He was also not Western, but he constantly said, "Your shirt is closer to your body." At the same time, oddly enough, he always helped everyone. He didn’t understand why “western” and “eastern” could not get along. Perhaps this is why in the 60s-70s many left the Ukrainian SSR for Siberia? It's just that with such a mess, even then in the Ukrainian SSR brother went against brother.

[svp67]

Quote: Horst78

He did not understand why "western" and "eastern" could not get along

Why? I can express my opinion as a native of the "eastern" regions. Our mentality was different. The "Easterners" are, in the overwhelming majority, the Russian-speaking proletariat, in these areas there was the greatest connection with Russia and developed mechanical engineering and metallurgy ..., and the "Western", mainly rural, very strongly "Kurkul" or, as they used to say, "kulak "...

[Horst78]

Well, I always knew that. By the way, in Us in Siberia they eventually become Siberians. the difference is only in the individual character of a person.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

And honestly, after the SHABASH that was arranged on the territory of Ukraine, in some of its areas, I UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY.

These are the crew members, I would not fly home either. That in Tyumen to sit, that in Japan, there even conditions will be better, but my contract continues, money is dripping, plus "the grave will pay." There is no bonus for terminating the contract at will, and the company will refuse the services of such a crew member next time. And in Ukraine, they will welcome them with pebbles, and since yesterday they have forbidden a relative to transfer fat.

[knn54]

There is information that Poroshenko and Co. are involved in the "coronomaidan".

[Dur_mod]

Yes, it’s just that a Japanese hospital has more chances of survival than a Ukrainian one.

[Grits]

Quote: Dur_mod

Yes, it’s just that a Japanese hospital has more chances of survival than a Ukrainian one.

Yes, and comfort, for sure, more than a burning bus.

[tomket]

Quote: Gritsa

Yes, and comfort, for sure, more than a burning bus.

But in the burning bus, it is surrounded by the warmth of people close to you in spirit, who have chosen the European path.

[KAVBER]

And I understand them. To return from civilized Japan to ruin is like voluntarily surrendering to the cannibals, who would want such barbarism in relation to themselves.

[Mytholog]

I think from New Sanjar - many would not refuse to evacuate to Diamond Princess. Coronavirus, damn it, seems less evil.

[askort154]

In Ukraine itself, it was suggested that Ukrainians with the “Diamond Princess” could see footage from Novy Sanzhar, where compatriots evacuated from Wuhan were met by local residents.

Therefore, it was decided - it is better to die in comfortable cabins than to be burnt on tires.

[Rusticolus]

Alone in deep binge, this is understandable. And the rest apparently came to success. This is the great dream of any Ukrainian - to sit, not to do anything, and to receive money for that too. Now they cannot be smoked by any viruses from there.

[Avior]

Invented news, in my opinion
Or the Ukrainian embassy wanted to promote how caring they are.
Contracted liner crew members why should they suddenly be evacuated to Ukraine?
The quarantine was on the liner, it ended, in Japan there is no quarantine, the liner also no longer exists, why should they suddenly drop the ship (and the salary is natural too)?

[alexmach]

The first meaningful Comments on the topic!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

why would they suddenly drop the ship (and salary naturally too)?

To run into a friendly meeting of fellow countrymen with stone.

[Andrea]

Thinking soundly ... it is better to be sick, but alive than healthy, but dead.

[Egoza]

"Thank you! We've already met once." As far as I understand, people there are now thinking of how to change their citizenship without visiting "Matkivshchyna"

[cniza]

Ukrainians from the cruise ship “Diamond Princess” refuse to evacuate to their homeland

After a "warm" welcome, it is better to live with possible patients than with compatriots.

[Technologist]

They do not want from Asia to enlightened Europe)))))

[Irek]

Well, in vain, they will meet as dear guests, they may not be burned.

[sergo1914]

Our and Ukrainians on the liner were approximately equally divided. But ours are vacationers, Ukrainians are maintenance staff ... This says a lot.

[Technologist]

Quote: sergo1914

Our and Ukrainians on the liner were approximately equally divided. But ours are vacationers, Ukrainians are maintenance staff ... This says a lot.

And what is this talking about?

[sergo1914]

The servants and the bar ...

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: rocket757

trust in what is written in the media, NO from the word at all.

“The Ukrainians greeted two Costa Rican women and seventy other people evacuated from China with stones,” is the flagship edition of Costa Rica, La Nacion.
Eight Argentines arrived in Kiev, then to Kharkov, and then to Novye Sanzhary, where they ended up in a local “hell,” the Argentine media wrote in surprise.
World agencies (like Reuters, AFP) have provided enough details. In particular, they said that Sanzhary was not some special point on the map of Ukraine, because exactly the same protests took place in Lviv and Ternopil regions.

[BMP-2]

No wonder: in Japanese clinics they have a chance of being cured, but in Ukraine after the "Suprun medical reform" there is no chance of vzhe nema ...

[Incvizitor]

Yes, it’s better to get sick with the virus than to be eaten by a dumb, forgotten, wild tribe.

[major147]

Ukrainians from the cruise ship “Diamond Princess” refuse to evacuate to their homeland

Better a horrible end on a ship than an endless horror "in Ukraine"!

[wandlitz]

And that earlier it was impossible to remove patients from the liner and send them to quarantine? Why was it necessary to keep healthy with the sick? Yes, here the Japanese have not thought of something. Or did you want to arrange a "medical" experiment?

[cat Rusich]

I watched Shari’s videos about how they meet the residents of Ukraine from Wuhan who returned to Batkivshchyna. I would also postpone the return. Advice to other residents of Ukraine is to wait six months until the coranovirus is forgotten and return singly or in small groups by workarounds (for example, through Belarus).