"Soul of Europe." Poland as an American colony

Former President of Poland and former electrician Lech Walesa ridiculed the idea of ​​Polish reparations from Moscow, in a simple, businesslike way, with a poorly concealed hope that he would be invited to Moscow for the Victory Day to discuss the accumulated issues. A sort of world ambassador who will talk with Putin and immediately resolve all issues. Due to concessions to Russia, of course. Russia is big and therefore should be the first to take a step towards it (something like this he understands politics). And he does not understand that Russia does not owe Poland anything, but Poland must answer for its insults, equating fascist Germany with the USSR.

It is unlikely that Lech, a political marginal and demagogue, will be invited to Moscow. There is nothing to discuss with him, with this Polish analogue of Leonid Kravchuk, who for some reason considers that any problem can be discussed, that is, Moscow's teeth can be spoken. Somehow outwit.

Poland and trump

Today's nationalist neo-Pilsuda Poland demonstrates a new hostility to Russia and loyalty to America: yesterday - the US Democratic Party, today - to President Trump. Warsaw promises to build Fort Trump with its money if the United States agrees to station its troops there.

In other words, Poland claims to be the "first wife", or rather, the "first colony" of the United States in Europe. Trump meets: speaking in Warsaw, calls Poland "the soul of Europe"! Is it not from here that the Polish gentry has an arrogant attitude towards Berlin and Moscow demanding “reparations” from both sides?

Polish officials are simply competing in historical insults to Moscow and have already received a rebuke from Putin in the form of an "anti-Semitic pig" by Ambassador Lipsky and, apparently, will receive more. Nevertheless, Poland is in a hurry to declare its victory in the historical issue over Moscow, it simply cannot live without "victories", just like Bandera's Ukraine without "peremogs"!

The end of the "Polish miracle"?

The scandals that Warsaw has arranged for Moscow and Berlin one after another have a simple basis: money in the Polish treasury is running out, many observers write about it. The loans of Brussels, that is, Germany, Poland have eaten, there is nothing to give them back. Today's nationalist regimes work well in language, but very poorly - with their hands, in Poland, in Ukraine.

Loans to Poland went to a good life, and, apparently, to the Institute of Polish Memory, engaged in substantiating historical claims, depicting Poland as an “innocent victim” of all in order to receive money for this. Too thin calculation, breaks.

Since Warsaw is not in a position to repay loans, it is very likely that Poland will announce its withdrawal from the EU after England, and it relies on Trump to rely on this, hence, “Trump” may appear. Trump welcomed Brexit.

Perhaps this process will go on both sides, because Germany and Brussels do not need an obvious American colony at all. The question, however, remains: how will Germany collect Polish debts?

Russia takes Poland off the gas allowance. May 18, Gazprom stops transit through Poland due to the end of the transit agreement. There are no new transit negotiations. One question remains: what will Russia do with the arrogant “historical” attacks of Warsaw?

Another Polish suicide

What are wonderful Polish minds counting on, blackmailing both Germany and Russia at the same time? The fact that America will help them. How? Uncle Sam is across the ocean, and Germany and Russia are close by. American gas oats are expensive, and US loans are not given to anyone, for this they came up with the IMF. Realizing that there will be no money from anywhere, Warsaw is preparing to leave the EU in order to at least delay the payment of loans.

Most likely, the fate of Bandera Ukraine awaits neo-Pilsuda Poland: betting on America will also lead to an economic crisis. The United States will throw Warsaw to its fate, as England threw Poland in 1939 even with the signing of a “military treaty”.

Comments

[horus88]

why should they leave the EU? And ordinary Poles will never support this in a referendum.
The United States is also not beneficial for their main supporters to leave the EU. After all, it is the Poles with the Baltic states who should prevent the FRG and France from creating a strong united Europe, living in a world with the Russian Federation and independent of the USA.

And so the situation among the Poles is stalemate, whatever one may say, and the payback for satisfying years is close.
Let them leave the EU, let them not give loans to the Germans, let them continue to bark at us and grunt the Americans. All this will only bring the next section of Poland closer ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: horus88

After all, it is the Poles with the Baltic states who should prevent the FRG and France from creating a strong united Europe, living in a world with the Russian Federation and independent of the USA.

It is joyful that like-minded people do not sleep ...

[Slavutich]

All this will only bring the next section of Poland closer ...

A section is some sort of bust, who should share what?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Slavutich

A section is some sort of bust, who should share what?

To business. Property.
Debt default, external management and thoughtful asset tearing under the wise guidance of the IMF. We are already seeing this in one country.
No politics, no military, only economic methods.

[paul3390]

We don’t need anything from them, but Germany still has something to remember .. If the Poles refuse the Soviet past, so should the gifts of Comrade Stalin ..

[Same lech]

And ordinary Poles will never support this in a referendum.

Who will ask them ... European democracy is structured so that you can vote arbitrarily in referenda ... the political elite of Poland will still decide.

[Lopatov]

But at the same time, exit from the EU will not be free from debts. Quite often, this myth skips. In reality, Britain after the release pays about 33 billion for the debts of the European Union. And initially, the amount payable was 100 billion.

[cost]

That's right. The English debt problem is one of the main causes of brexitis. Great professional comment

[lopuhan2006]

Like us))) What would be the result of a referendum on raising the retirement age? And so a herring in the face of the entire electorate (wrong-people).

[Basil50]

It is a pity that the author did not consider the true reasons for the insanity of the Polish authorities.
As soon as Poland was Catholicized, then everyone who became a Catholic at once proclaimed themselves a gentry with permissiveness in relation to others. Not so nimble in the change of faith were at the level of b ... (taxes).
In the twentieth century, during the creation of Poland, neither the Austrians nor the Germans began to tinker with the Polish gentry, created a government of faithful vassals, and they raised themselves into the gentry.
When creating present-day Poland, those who were faithful to the British-Americans were purposefully brought to power. In present-day Poland, new gentry strive to appear, and this requires warlike and underexposed with a mandatory ambition.

[The leader of the Redskins]

The author, if you are not aware, never considers anything. He issues a set of slogans and stamps to the mountain. More often about Ukroin, less often about Poland and other neighboring countries, but still there are "Bandera", "collapse", "fascists" and so on in the texts ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Vasily50

with permissiveness in relation to others.

It was still funnier there.
They developed the so-called "Sarmatism", that is, the theory that the gentry are nomad Sarmatians, who allegedly seized power over the Slavic and Lithuanian cattle in ancient times

But the funny thing is that elements of this theory exist to this day. In the form of "confederate" - "ulanok" on the Polish military

[Basil50]

shovel
And how else to explain that you are beginning to spread rot of a neighbor?
All these Saxons with the Goths and others nestled in Europe from the Asian steppes, destroying everyone they could reach. This is a historical fact.
The gentry wanted to lean against the glory of the ancient people in justification of their bestiality. There is nothing new in this.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Vasily50

And how else to explain that you are beginning to spread rot of a neighbor?

Neighbor? No. Own population recorded in "cattle"
Neighbors themselves with teeth.

[maidan.izrailovich]

And ordinary Poles will never support this in a referendum.

How many countries do you know where the elite is interested in the opinion of the people?
As for the referendum and other "democratic" expressions of will, it does not matter who votes and how, it is important who counts and how.

[rocket757]

The successful functioning of the state consists of many positions ..... wait, see how it will be. Quack in advance about .... or for no reason, we will not.

[Olgovich]

Quote: rocket757

The successful functioning of the state consists of many positions ..... wait, see how it will be. Quack in advance about .... or for no reason, we will not.

I agree: Poland, after all, was not only eating away loans, it largely modernized its industry and agriculture, unlike the Baltic states.

At the same time, when weaning from loans and grants, hard times await her.

So let's see what they cost ...

[bessmertniy]

Exiting the EU does not mean that Poland will be forgiven for debts. Will delay - debts will grow. And today this country is not so poor. For quite a long time, it was one of the most prosperous countries in Europe in terms of economic growth. Presumably, she earned money and - not bad, but now she is simply sad that she does not have it and there is nothing to pay on loans.

[Dmitry Potapov]

Not a soul but an unwashed crotch.

[Ross xnumx]

Not a soul, but unwashed used crotch.

[Ru_Na]

The Poles do not want to learn history, well, that’s their right to step on the rake again and get on the forehead.

[Slavutich]

Poland may have bad economic prospects, but its citizens live better than in Russia, not counting Moscow, what’s this? They got loans, buy gas from the Russian Federation, sell apples alone, and the standard of living is much higher?

[Basil50]

Do not take the gloss of ambition for reality. There, in all seriousness, almost at the level of the national idea, the conviction that they will not pay either for loans or for their own statements. And in general * debts if only .... (tax) pays *.

[bistrov.]

Quote: Slavutich

They got loans, buy gas from the Russian Federation, sell apples alone, and the standard of living is much higher?

Come on, the average pensions of 1000 - 1500 zlotys and salaries in 2000 amount to the same 15-20 thousand Russian rubles, a rather expensive communal apartment and huge queues at the so-called. free hospitals, which makes you go to a private trader. You will not be overclocked very much. Therefore, I would not use "sharply higher", but used the word "comparable", and in many cases even worse.

[Avior]

And where did you get these numbers?
Both real information and a simple search to confirm that 2250 is the minimum wage, an average of about 1100 euros, which is about 5 thousand zlotys, pensions do not know how much. The communal apartment is expensive, but the rest of the prices are for food and other things.

[Topgun]

googled: min salary 2600, exchange rate to the ruble 1/16, so you underestimated their level "a little",
and in what cases worse? taking into account that Pts products are cheap (I was a tourist), education is free (not only did I see grandmothers with a stop sign who stood at the school where young children study and helped them cross the road - we only had this in the USSR ...), I don’t know, I I liked Pts there - clean, ideal roads, infrastructure, etc.

[maidan.izrailovich]

They scored loans, they buy gas from the Russian Federation, sell apples alone, and the standard of living is much higher?

You, whatever the phrase, is a contradiction.
In this phrase, the first three words answer the question at the end of the phrase.
Luxembourg, for example, lives much better than Poland. So there is the largest external debt in the world. 3600% of GDP.
Borrow and not give back, the dream of all the villains.

[paul3390]

If you take a loan of 10 million - for a while you will also live very tightly .. Until the collectors come to demand returns, with interest and their services .. Here, your standard of living will drop sharply. So with Poland ..

[mr.ZinGer]

No matter how Poland is treated, Ukraine’s fate is not waiting for it, the author is clearly exaggerating.

[Adam Khomich]

The third redistribution of the Commonwealth will not survive! And everything goes to that. Internal contradictions, exacerbations within the EU in connection with the judicial system, the withdrawal of the eternal sovereign from the EU, the approaching cessation of subsidies to the East European window of the EU and the onset of the period for paying off debts will smash the US colony to smithereens. Therefore, the Poles are in a hurry to quickly run across US bases on their territory, believing that they will protect them from imminent default.

[mr.ZinGer]

And what are the internal contradictions, one nation, one language, one faith. In this regard, Poland is one of the most consolidated states.

[Adam Khomich]

And ethnic Lithuanians, Ukrainians is one nation? There, even spelling claims is presented, not to mention the rest. The consolidation of Poland is as imaginary as its polished facade.

[mr.ZinGer]

97% of the population are Poles
0.8% Germans
0.6% Belarusians
0.6% Ukrainians
In my opinion, the numbers speak for themselves.

[Adam Khomich]

A fly in the ointment spoils a barrel of honey! Interethnic problems exist in all countries, incl. and in Poland. Now the question of restitution of private property lost during the Holocaust is being raised, raised by Michael Pompeo. Do you think that this question will add "love" to Jews among the Poles? Not for this they killed them, burned them in concentration camp furnaces and gave them out to the Nazis in order to return the gold crowns torn from the Jewish corpses.

[mr.ZinGer]

There are always problems, the question is in their scale. By the way, yes, a very small percentage of the Jewish population. But 97% of the "titular" nation, in what other country is there. This preponderance is one factor of stability at the ethnic level.

[Avior]

Poland is very homogeneous, there are very few Jews, claims on the Holocaust from Israel, and not from local Jews

[maidan.izrailovich]

In my opinion, the numbers speak for themselves.

The figures say that the Polish authorities are godlessly lying.
They are all who can be recorded in the Poles.

[mr.ZinGer]

You have other data, share the information. Will the understanding lie or not lie, and this is just talk.

[Lopatov]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

The figures say that the Polish authorities are godlessly lying.
They are all who can be recorded in the Poles.

But why...
At one time, they very actively used ethnic cleansing methods on their territory.
For example, regarding the Germans. Or Ukrainians. Or Jews
Plus, the policy of violent polonization, which was launched almost from the moment of creation of Poland after the First World War. First of all, Lithuanians and Belarusians.

[Sergej1972]

The ethnic cleansing of the Poles against the Germans is largely the implementation of the decision of the Potsdam Conference on the eviction of Germans from Eastern Europe. Poles can be reproached only with too harsh methods of eviction. Surprisingly, several tens of thousands of Germans remained to live in Poland.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sergej1972

it is largely the implementation of the decision of the Potsdam Conference

"In view of the fact that such an inhumane attitude towards the Germans is resettled,
tsam is a violation of our agreement with you
on transportation of Germans and violation of section XII of the Potsdam Conference
rents, I consider it necessary to continue receiving transports from
settlers from Poland"
Letter from the Head of the Commandant Service
Soviet military administration in Germany guard
Major General S. Gorokhov to the Head of the Polish Military Mission
under the Union Control Council to General Pravin

[bistrov.]

Quote: adam khomich

Ukrainians is one nation?

There is no "Ukrainian nation". T.N. "Ukrainians" are spoiled Russians, and their language was created artificially and even today they continue to invent words.

[lopuhan2006]

Then I have the same question for the Russian language, which for some reason was called Old Slovenian until the 18th century) The Ukrainian language is a renaming of the language, and not its artificial creation, like the Russian language. People living in Ukraine always spoke it. Get to the Belgorod region and listen to how they talk in the villages and are very surprised. I don’t even speak for Western Ukraine because there is a separate conversation about it. And do not confuse the language and saying maybe I know what the differences are. I’m not even talking about the true understanding of the word Russian and Orthodox, otherwise you won’t get off with a couple of volumes.

[Lamata]

the madness of the Polish watered elite leads the country to another abyss, and the Americans will not help, the Psheks forgot 1939, the help of England and France.

[Host Tavern]

Guys, happy holiday !!!

[Den717]

Quote: Vasily50

When creating present-day Poland, those who were faithful to the British-Americans were purposefully brought to power. In present-day Poland, new gentry strive to appear, and this requires warlike and underexposed with a mandatory ambition.

I would like to slightly correct the words of a historical character, WC, - "And yet there have always been two Poland: one of them fought for the truth, and the other grovelled in meanness." Since the 90s, it is the "creeping" part that has been in power .... Today it creeps in the same meanness.

[Ros 56]

Well, what a soul it is, this is the jackal of Europe, as well as the tribaltes, and this is my firm conviction.

[Aleksandr21]

Unfortunately, the author gives the wish for the reality, no exit from the EU - Poland is planned, and even discussions on this topic are not conducted. There are disagreements between Poland and the EU on domestic policy, the future budget of the EU, and loans ... but this is all decided, now they are negotiating and bargaining who will beat the best conditions and who will bend under whom. And leaving the EU it will be a very strong blow to the Polish economy, and the Polish government will not do that. Regarding relations between Russia and Poland, they are now at the lowest level, probably in the entire history, and apparently there is no reason to expect changes in the near future ... of course, many in Russia want to punish Poland for such a policy towards us (and I also among them), but objectively we do not have enough levers, Poland’s dependence on Russia is too low for it to be hit economically / politically.

[Adam Khomich]

"... Poland's dependence on Russia is too low to be economically / politically hit somehow."
We no longer buy apples and other agricultural products and farmers suffer from this, but not PiS with Kaczynski! Gas supplies and transit will soon cease. Let’s see if the Psheks had enough of their own dough (not EU loans and subsidies) to buy our gas from Yamal-LNG or exhausting Norwegian through mediation and with a US mark-up. The Baltic tigers also swaggered and crap in every possible way, until they lost all types of transit and market for sprats.

[parusnik]

Poland and trump... Stop.Kamenev. Honestly, I didn’t read further ... There is no sense. I am sure, judging by the title of the article, there will be further that the time will come or it has already come and Poland will feel bad, everyone will abandon it, well, maybe about Ukraine, something will happen .. .

[Vlad5307]

Quote: parusnik

Poland and trump... Stop.Kamenev. Honestly, I didn’t read further ... There is no sense. I am sure, judging by the title of the article, there will be further that the time will come or it has already come and Poland will feel bad, everyone will abandon it, well, maybe about Ukraine, something will happen .. .

And, by the way, everything goes to this. We will see how it ends.

[Pavel Fedorov]

Pshek he is pshek, the cattle known ...
I didn’t remember as a child any Polish writer that the field with Polish workers and the field with German ... so silence on the German field and everyone works together, and on the Polish field bickering and squabbles, still famous cattle ....

[dgonni]

And why did the author take that Poland had problems with loans. The emphasis is on loans to Germany! The Polish economy in the EU takes 4th place! And it has been showing steady growth of 4-5 percent for over 20 years. Since 2017, they have refused loan from the IMF and are quietly servicing the received loans, slowly reducing the credit load.
In fact, the author’s opus boils down to one message. Starting May 18, we will not pump gas through Poland. For the contract ends. And the Poles are so ungrateful do not fall into their legs to extend it.

[Lopatov]

Quote: dgonni

The Polish economy in the EU takes 4th place!

This is on what grounds?

Quote: dgonni

shows steady growth of 4-5 percent

With an equally stable and long-term violation of the Stability and Growth Pact
That is, in fact, all "growth" is due to borrowing. Well, how can you not remember the notorious PIGS

[paul3390]

Well - if 352 billion is not a debt - then yes, Poland really has no problems with loans .. I’m silent about free EU handouts that are about to stop.

[Avior]

Not transit through Poland, is this obtained through Belarus also?

[Avior]

The fact that Poland plans to leave the EU is a fantasy of the author, in reality everything is quite the opposite, the Poles are active supporters of NATO and the EU.
The active part of the Poles has moved to Germany, where salaries are much higher than the average Polish 1100 euros, they are replaced by Ukrainians, the Poles have this trend, while life and prices in Germany are also much more expensive than in Poland, they still go to work in Germany . Communal in Poland is expensive, it’s true, but the rest of the prices are normal.
The Poles do not at least have a crisis that is at least purely outwardly apparent, at least for today, I don’t know why to invent the author, I wonder if he has been to Poland lately?

[Morrow]

The author did not cite a single fact - only his mriy.

[Operator]

The national debt of Poland has reached half of GDP and amounts to 250 billion euros. Plus several tens of billions of annual free-of-charge grants from the EU budget. Plus commercial debt of Polish enterprises and organizations.

Poland is a bankrupt who is trying to bargain for preferences with his suicidal behavior towards Germany and Russia. Plus, the desire to find another dad in the face of the United States.

[Avior]

You are completely right, the public debt of Poland reached half of GDP
And before it was 55 percent

https://take-profit.org/statistics/government-debt-to-gdp/poland/
But I do not think that from this we can conclude that they are bankrupt

[Operator]

After the spread of the coronavirus epidemic in Europe, Poland’s public debt will be + 100% of GDP, and free-of-charge subsidies to Poland will no longer shine due to yesterday’s EU budget inconsistency

[Vladimir Mashkov]

No, well, the fact that "Poland will face the fate of Bandera's Ukraine" is, of course, too much. But it seems that Poland is going to "develop" according to the Ukrainian model. Perhaps, if they don’t grow wiser, they will approach the current Ukrainian "achievements". Not right away, of course. Well, Poland is like Poland: it is a long-cut chunk and does not inspire any sympathy. But the fact that "father" Lukashenko, too, seems to be going to lead Belarus "independent" Ukrainian way into the abyss is bad.

[AB]

No, America will not leave the Poles to their own devices, it’s too painful for Polka-Polka to bark loudly, already choking with enthusiasm. Symbols of both parties of the USA speak about it. Everything is clear about the Elephant, they are paired with Grandfather Krylov, and Donkey, he is the donkey. Since Pug-polka barks in the direction indicated by the donkey's hoof, then we need to help her.

[Aleksandr1971]

It seems that the reason for Poland's hatred of Russia is that because of Russia, Poland failed to become a great power, although it had such an illusory chance at the beginning of the 17th century in the Time of Troubles. Poland then dreamed of becoming the second edition of Spain in relation to the "wild" Eastern Slavs. In turn, Russia's participation in the partition of Poland is, on the one hand, retribution for the Polish aggression of the 17th century, on the other hand, it is the return of the ancestral lands to the borders of Russia in the 11-12th centuries.
I suppose that in the foreseeable future Poland’s economy will grow due to EU subsidies to agriculture, which amount to 8-10 billion euros per year (an excellent supply that you can only dream of), as well as by attracting labor from Ukraine. But the general increase in public debt in the EU countries in speed will lead to a reduction in subsidies. And in Ukraine, the potential for the export of labor will end (due to low demographic indicators and the transition of Ukrainian guest workers to other EU countries).
In 10-15 years, Russia will again embark on the path of stable and rapid development. In both Poland and Russia, political elites will change and mutual negative rhetoric will become milder. Although the perception of Russia as an enemy in Poland will remain for a long time.

[75 Sergey]

Hyena of Europe wants to eat?

[golem]

Complete nonsense. Poland does not intend to leave the EU.
Money from the EU goes to specific goals. First of all, on infrastructure. Poland is Germany’s sixth trading partner. Russia is in 13th place. And so on ...

[Yvy]

The author probably never was in Poland or was there 20 years ago. I was 2 months last year. This text is some terrible propaganda

[Bagatur]

When all of Eastern Europe was essentially a colony of the USSR, no problem! Well, they say they’re not near Russia now, and it’s very bad ....)))) Polish Russophobia has a foundation in history but it’s already a pathology .... But you don’t have to dream about the bankrupt of Poland and the EU ... well beat solve your problems! There is no gas, oil, elmaz and the whole table
Mendeleev but they are impressive with the growth rate of the economy. Well, it’s necessary to think about it in Russia .... Why do we have so many resources, nature has yielded a lot, and on the whole life is not so good for a large part of the population? Truth? Not only tanks and missiles have done well for the benefit of the people!

[Voltsky]

ara dexterous dear, https://translit.net/ or some other resource that spelling checks, otherwise it's hard to read. But the message you wrote is easy to read, and in part you are right.

[Voltsky]

Viktor Kamenev, and you are much more likely to write propaganda pamphlets; political instructor not to give not to take.

[iouris]

The concept of "colony" in modern conditions (in the conditions of a unipolar political system) requires a definition. Adhering to this logic, the "US colony" can be understood as the entire political world (except for the US). Thus, the author did not substantiate his main thesis - "(exclusively) Poland is an American colony".
There are a lot of diverse "reflections", but what determines the relevance of this text?
Analysis of the text showed that in the following position (Quote :): "The United States will throw Warsaw to its fate, just as England threw Poland in 1939, even with a signed" military treaty "." (End of quote.)
A question to the author: who is hatching the plans to attack the "US colony" ("American colony")? The definition of "neopilsudskaya Poland" gives a clue: "neoreich" (FRG) and neoSSSR (RF).
Someone will say that Kamenev is the mouthpiece of the official Kremlin? And what will we say "in the bottom line"? Provocation.

[NF68]

Poland has always been someone's servant. Otherwise, they cannot live.