Kurds say about the “cunning plan” of Russia and Turkey in Idlib


The representative of the Syrian Democratic Forces, based on the Kurdish militia, gave his assessment of the events in Idlib. In his opinion, there is a plan for changing the political map of the region and some secret agreements.


Mahmoud Habib, officially representing the SDS, said that Russia and Turkey could have come to an agreement on joint actions in Idlib both in Sochi and Astana. Therefore, all the threats that Moscow and Ankara are scattering against each other today are just “camouflage”, followed by Turkey’s desire to change Syria’s political map and Russia's consent in exchange for certain concessions from the Turkish side.

According to Habib, Russia and Turkey interact quite closely with each other on the issue of Syria and events in this country. All high-profile statements are made only for the press in order to create the appearance of a confrontation between the two states in Idlib.

Another opposition representative, member of the Executive Committee of the Movement for a Democratic Society, Eldar Khalil, recalled the fate of Afrin, who, he said, had fallen victim to the “cunning plan” of Russia and Turkey. Russia allowed Turkey to occupy Afrin, so that Ankara, in turn, refused to support the armed groups operating in Ghout, in the vicinity of Damascus, and posing a certain threat to the government of Bashar al-Assad.

In order to cleanse the main territory of Syria from radical fundamentalist groups oriented toward Turkey, Damascus and its supporting Moscow made certain concessions. As a result, the militants of radical groups from Aleppo and Palmyra were relocated to Idlib.

Representatives of the Kurdish opposition, if we discard the emotional expressions addressed to Recep Erdogan, believe that the Turkish president’s main goal is to restore the power of the Ottoman Empire and first he needs to establish control over the northern regions of Syria and Iraq. The fact that the ultimate goal of Erdogan is to occupy the northern territories is testified at least by that. that the militants are gradually being withdrawn from Idlib, transferring to Libya. The occupation of Northern Syria is entrusted to the Turkish armed forces, and the militants have already done their job and are no longer needed in this region.

The position of the Kurdish opposition is understandable. For her, Erdogan is the worst enemy, no better than ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation), since he is a categorical opponent of the idea of ​​creating not only an independent Kurdish state, but also the wide political autonomy of the Kurds in northern Syria. In Ankara, they see Kurdish political activity in Northern Syria as a potential threat and their own territorial integrity, and strive to act proactively by occupying the border regions of Syria.

Now the Kurds negatively assess the role of Russia, which allowed Turkey to legitimize its military presence in Syria. It was after the agreements in Astana that Turkey was able to legally deploy its armed forces on Syrian soil. Also, representatives of the opposition note that Russia and Turkey, agreeing among themselves, came to certain agreements at the expense of the Syrian government.

At the same time, the territorial integrity of Syria is not a priority value either for Russia or, especially, for Turkey, the opposition believes. Therefore, Russia allowed Turkey to occupy certain areas of the country, and the Syrian troops, periodically clashing with Turkish units, are trying to achieve changes in Russian-Turkish agreements by their actions.

Since neither the USA nor the NATO countries are in a hurry to actively side with Turkey, and Erdogan himself does not want to allow a direct military clash with Russia, it is possible that eventually Turkey will be forced to retreat to Idlib. But in order to leave, Erdogan will need to save his political face, and this is not so simple in the current situation.
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  1. Thrifty 21 February 2020 15: 58 New
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    So the Kurds reminded themselves! Why didn’t they come to battle yesterday with their worst enemy, the Turkish army, and with the militants? Or doesn’t it go beyond words? Waited for how everything would turn to bow to the strong side? And here the situation is still stalemate, but you need to score points by showing yourself as some kind of third strength in the region! The same Iranians are many times more useful to the Syrians than the Kurds, who do not even want to unite into a single people, and the “dances” that “help” them imitate the support of the Syrian army “dance”.
    1. svp67 21 February 2020 16: 06 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      Why didn’t they come to battle yesterday with their worst enemy, the Turkish army, and with the militants?

      To side with another enemy? No, Kurds still rely on US help
      1. cniza 21 February 2020 17: 55 New
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        Quote: svp67
        No, Kurds still rely on US help


        But this is naive ...
        1. svp67 21 February 2020 18: 02 New
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          Quote: cniza
          But this is naive ...

          And who do they still hope for?
          1. cniza 21 February 2020 18: 04 New
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            A difficult question, but sooner or later the United States will throw it and they understand this ... they are trying to hold out even with temporary assistance ...
            1. svp67 21 February 2020 18: 21 New
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              Quote: cniza
              but the United States will sooner or later throw and they understand this ...

              Yes, as we did at one time
              Quote: cniza
              trying to hold out even with temporary help ...

              "With a black sheep even a tuft of wool" ...
              1. cniza 21 February 2020 18: 41 New
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                And then what, from whom to expect help? only like ourselves ...
                1. svp67 21 February 2020 18: 52 New
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                  Quote: cniza
                  only like ourselves ...

                  How many centuries have they been waiting ... will wait further
      2. AleksUkr 25 February 2020 12: 53 New
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        Hope dies last. This has long been known to everyone. But still drowning, hoping for a chance, clutching at a straw. What if the USA helps. But their expectations are in vain. We never helped anyone. They just benefited.
    2. Chaldon48 21 February 2020 20: 00 New
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      The Kurds do not have an army, but a militia, and they are not so stupid as to climb like a bull on a toreodor with only grenade launchers on tanks.
      1. svp67 25 February 2020 13: 01 New
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        Quote: Chaldon48
        to climb like a bull on a toreodor with some grenade launchers on tanks.

        Not stupid, but they already have ATGMs, including the latest ones, the same "Javelins" and they go to tanks ...
  2. knn54 21 February 2020 16: 04 New
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    Through the lips of the Kurds they say ... Yankees.
    1. cniza 21 February 2020 17: 54 New
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      Quote: knn54
      Through the lips of the Kurds they say ... Yankees.



      There is such a tangle and everyone is looking for their own benefit ...
  3. Sergey39 21 February 2020 16: 22 New
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    Nevertheless, the Turks will have to leave the territory of Syria. Whatever they dreamed about there.
    1. protoss 21 February 2020 19: 28 New
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      not very soon, whatever you would dream of there.
  4. Lamata 21 February 2020 16: 31 New
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    Poor Kurds, everything is gone.
  5. Evgeny Suslin 21 February 2020 16: 47 New
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    No wonder these intractable and very proud Kurds are not loved either in Syria or Iran or Turkey. They are like a flower in a prruby, they look beautifully, but there is nothing to do except ambition. They were abandoned by the USA, they will be abandoned by everyone with whom they do not want to live peacefully and cooperate.
  6. JonnyT 21 February 2020 16: 48 New
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    Of course, after all, after the idlib, Assad, with the support of the Russian Federation and Turkey, will vie for the Kurds.
    1. cniza 21 February 2020 17: 53 New
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      And why did he need it, didn’t he fight?
  7. serzh.kost 21 February 2020 16: 52 New
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    everything is possible
  8. cniza 21 February 2020 17: 52 New
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    But in order to leave, Erdogan will need to save his political face, and this is not so simple in the current situation.


    It seems to me that the option has already been found and soon everything will become clear if the Sultan does not begin to cunning.
  9. Livonetc 21 February 2020 18: 01 New
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    You can understand the Kurds.
    Afraid of them.
    However, sitting right on all the chairs does not work.
    Time to choose.
    1. cniza 21 February 2020 18: 53 New
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      They try and everything is unsuccessful ...
  10. Vladimir Mashkov 21 February 2020 19: 09 New
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    The abandoned US vassals are fighting in hysteria: they do not like Russia, and they really do not like Turkey - and the Americans abandoned them! Where to go bold, brave and proud Kurds ??? request
  11. Felix Chuykov 21 February 2020 19: 38 New
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    Idlib

    Cream right slogans whip -
    Harvest bloody harvest.
    Olives ripen in Idlib
    And in Russia, the Vepsians are dying.

    Tigers and panthers have fallen.
    There were interruptions with the bees.
    But the sand quarries
    White as the sky is blue.

    Felix Chuykov

    21 February 2020 year
  12. albert 22 February 2020 00: 04 New
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    Funny. "The territorial integrity of Syria is not a priority for Russia and Turkey." Kurds-oppositionists consider. But aren't they the main separatists there?
  13. svoit 22 February 2020 00: 27 New
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    But in order to leave, Erdogan will need to save his political face, and this is not so simple in the current situation.

    It is easy and not forced to exchange Kurds for Turkoman (and other bandits). Syria is not opposed to creating a buffer zone in Kurdistan (10 km away), Turkey is not opposed to exactly the same in its South.
  14. Yuri Mikhailovsky 22 February 2020 22: 42 New
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    Like .... in the hole ... hanging out ... here and there ...