Ankara asks Moscow to "step aside" in Idlib

The situation in the Syrian province of Idlib can only be resolved if Russia "steps aside." This was stated by Turkish Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar, Turkish media reported.

The head of the Turkish military department said that the current situation in the Idlib de-escalation zone can only be resolved if Russia ceases to support Syrian government forces and "steps aside." However, he emphasized that "there can be no talk of confrontation between Turkey and Russia." According to Akar, there is a “healthy dialogue” between Ankara and Moscow, within the framework of which the parties are trying to solve the Idlib problem.

Negotiations with Russia on Idlib have not stalled, they will continue in the coming days. Turkey does not intend to revise Sochi agreement on Idlib

- said the Turkish minister.

Meanwhile, information appeared that Turkey intends to request from Russia the opening of airspace over the Idlib province, closed by Russia after the first clashes of the Syrian army with the Turks. According to the Turkish Minister of Defense, negotiations are underway and "difficulties can be overcome if Russia does not interfere."

According to Akar, this is necessary "to establish a ceasefire."

The minister stressed that Ankara has no problems with Moscow, and the “Syrian regime” is to blame for everything.

Comments

[sergo1914]

What's next? Nonaggression pact? With the following section ... well, for example, Israel?

[Horde1]

Many already ask Moscow, for example, Israel. Oil regions for the United States, the Dutch Heights for Israel, Idlib for Turkey. Will they really gather Syria in a heap, or just talk about help?

[cniza]

Quote: sergo1914

What's next? Nonaggression pact? With the following section ... well, for example, Israel?

We do not need war ...

[Paul Siebert]

We do not need war ...

If between humiliation and war we choose humiliation, we get both humiliation and war ...
Old dogma!

[cniza]

Nobody suggests humiliation, but it is necessary to "dodge" the war.

[fk7777777]

War is the continuation of the economy by political methods, that is, we are already at war ... All because of money ....

[Berber]

As for the war - you are absolutely right. We have no partners. It has long been necessary to realize that there will be no agreement, either we them or they us. And everything will fall into place.

[Teacher67]

If we refuse, there is every chance of getting problems in the Bosphorus.

[Hagalaz]

Well, with the Bosphorus, it’s still a pitchfork in the water, but if you drift, then everyone will feel like kicking. In the Bosphorus as well.

[Nastia makarova]

if we make concessions, then this defeat and the more problems cannot be avoided

[Red]

It is unlikely that something will change. The Sultan will boil, shoot, a couple of weeks will be calm, and then the Syrians will again begin to recapture their territory

[Nastia makarova]

all right !!! I say it from the very beginning

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

all right !!! I say it from the very beginning

No, from the very beginning you said that there will be a truce, everyone will remain in their places, and later the ssa will begin to advance again. But for now, it doesn't smell like a truce

[Nastia makarova]

that's right, it will be, there will be a truce and an offensive, now the Turks will iron out the SAA for a couple of weeks and there will be an agreement and a truce, then after 3-4 months there will be an attack on the SAA only in the south of idlib

[serzh.kost]

probably something like this will be. the sultan will play a little war game, then announce a permogue, report on the thousands of killed Syrians, thousands of destroyed tanks, authority and pride are preserved, then the Russia-Turkey-Iran summit, Syria refuses further advancement in Idlib, Turkey again undertakes to restrain the terrorists, the M5 highway and all liberated territories remain with the CAA. for Assad, the option is not the best, but not the worst.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

that's right, it will be, there will be a truce and an offensive, now the Turks will iron out the SAA for a couple of weeks and there will be an agreement and a truce, then after 3-4 months there will be an attack on the SAA only in the south of idlib

It would be great if so

[9PA]

Not to be brewed to take into account, to barter, yes

[no better place for]

And if you don’t go, everything will be fine?

[Nastia makarova]

everyone will be fine too, everyone agreed a long time ago

[SanSanych Gusev]

The most important thing is not to stay awake

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: SanSanych Gusev

The most important thing is not to stay awake

Erdogan can also be guided by this "wisdom", and then the competition will begin, who is more frostbitten.

[Nastia makarova]

will be moderate, a couple of weeks will fight so as not to lose face

[bessmertniy]

Erdon will be satisfied that the opposition will start to carry his "face about table".

[Nastia makarova]

that’s exactly what he wants to destroy this opposition, especially radicals, not all groups are subject to the Turks

[bessmertniy]

Unfortunately, the Islamic opposition takes over, not the secular. Therefore, the conflict between Turkey and Syria may drag on.

[Nastia makarova]

the conflict will be very long, at least as long as Erdogan, the main thing is that there should be less collisions

[Red]

As for the fact that it will be a long time, it is doubtless. But I think the question is not in the Sultan, they will squeeze it out slowly. The big question is what to do with Kurds and minke whales from overseas.

[Nastia makarova]

Asad must agree with the Kurds, the minke whales themselves will leave when there are no events

[Red]

They are events. No minke whales themselves have not left anywhere. Afghanistan, Iraq is an example

[megadeth]

I don’t know for sure, but they say Khrushchev once said: “We don’t need the Bosphorus, if we need to, we’ll dig our“ atom ”..

[Pessimist22]

Bomb the militants so that they piss with fear at night.

[Grandfather Crimea]

And Turkish psychologists worked tirelessly or whatever they usually put)))))))

[Mountain shooter]

Clear. "They turned on the back." I am not me and the horse is not mine, the "bloody Assad" is to blame for everything, poisoning the people with chlorine ... Something familiar, painfully. Open the sky for them? And step aside? Eh ... Kindergarten, pants with straps ...

[Zhan]

The minister stressed that Ankara has no problems with Moscow, and the “Syrian regime” is to blame for everything.

Straight mysticism is some ..

[Gray brother]

Quote: Zhan

Straight mysticism is some ..

Tourists will leave, if that.

[Teacher67]

There is nothing to rub there at all ..

[Gray brother]

Quote: Teacher67

There is nothing to rub there at all ..

I agree. However, it is impossible to explain this with a wooden top to the waist - they answer any argumentation "I am not interested in politics", and then, when politics begins to take an interest in them, they scream "take me out of here."

[DenZ]

Quote: Gray Brother

they answer "I'm not interested in politics," and then, when politics begins to take an interest in them, they scream "take me out of here."

They took it straight from the tongue. And there are many.

[Victor_B]

Ankara asks Moscow to "step aside" in Idlib

But ho ho not huh hu?
Right now!
We only stroke the laces!

[maiman61]

Yes, no problems! Turks get out of Idlib, Russia is moving away! Let the Syrians tumble themselves!

[Vadim Zhivov]

Your words yes to the Turks in the ears .. I would give you a hundred pluses on put

[_TANKIST_]

"... They will get a donut hole, not Sharapov ...."

[anjey]

The minister stressed that Ankara has no problems with Moscow, and the “Syrian regime” is to blame for everything.

Democrats with a Turkish accent

[vvvjak]

"Step aside"

this is tantamount to surrender. Well, no way

[Azazelo]

Have you become so brave, did the video about "We are one family" really work? They have already forgotten where NATO sent the Turks after the downing of Peshkov. The dogs are stooped !!!!

[Zaurbek]

The Russian Federation, in turn, needs to change the composition of its aircraft at the base (s) in the direction of increasing the capabilities of air defense and air defense systems. Replace Su24 with Su34, as the latter can themselves carry out their air defense and relocate more Su35S in view of the fact that we do not have small systems of early warning systems ... maybe MiG31. And it will be a good signal to the Turks. And you need to bring the composition of the C400 on the base to a complete set.

[Polymer]

The current situation in the Idlib de-escalation zone can be resolved only if Russia ceases to support the Syrian government forces and "steps aside"

Is it obviously meant to "decide in favor of the militants and Turkey"? I hope it is for this reason that Russia will not agree to "step aside."

[rocket757]

According to Akar, there is a "healthy dialogue" between Ankara and Moscow, within which the parties are trying to solve the Idlib problem.

Cool! To whom did the truth begin to reach ???
If you look, it's not too late to change anything, decide, show sanity.

[cniza]

Nobody wants to fight in full force, common sense must win.

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

Nobody wants to fight in full force, common sense must win.

All parties to the conflict will lose, but the winners will jump out of their pants for joy !!!
Neither we, nor Turkey, nor Syria will really succeed in rejoicing, that's for sure.
Common sense should prevail. After all, nothing is too late ... there will be some costs, but against the background of possible \ mandatory losses this is a real trifle!

[cniza]

The stripes are doing everything so that the Sultan is completely brutalized - become bolder and attacked the Russian military ...

[rocket757]

"Sultan" and he himself is ready to ruin everything. he is a typical oriental one with a mustache.
Minke whales can just rejoice quietly / loudly.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

Minke whales can just rejoice quietly / loudly.

Which they do, tossing all sorts of messages to the Sultan.

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

Which they do, tossing all sorts of messages to the Sultan.

Promises, they have it please ... although, with the air defense system, they seem to have broken it off or postponed it for very later.

[cniza]

No, they promise him moral help - you and I.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

"On February 18, Sechin and Lukashenko met in Minsk. Lukashenko said that he expects an agreement on further cooperation." That's all, and who is here against Belarus? News from RT. I said that everything will settle down. I apologize for not being in the subject.

[cniza]

Negotiations with Russia on Idlib have not stalled, they will continue in the coming days. Turkey does not intend to revise Sochi agreement on Idlib

The game of nerves ...

[Boris55]

In order for Erdagan to ride half-bent to Moscow, all that is needed is for us all to stop going to Antalya and buy Turkish tomatoes, and for this we don’t have to wait for any signs from the Kremlin. Together we can make our own foreign policy. The main thing is to realize.

[BIABIA]

The situation in the Syrian province of Idlib can only be resolved if Turkey "gets out of Syrian soil!" Will step aside.

[askort154]

The minister stressed that Ankara has no problems with Moscow, and the “Syrian regime” is to blame for everything.

Borzot! On the territory of Syria, they arranged a hornets' nest, not only for Syria, but also for the Russian base, regularly attacking it with their UAVs. We should have gouged this "nest" long ago, and now everything would be quiet. And so it happened - the "Sochi agreement", an analogue of "Minsk-1". When the enemy is on the verge of defeat - shouts let's "agree", we generously go to meet him. As a result, a protracted
smoldering war.

[flicker]

Ankara asks Moscow to "step aside" in Idlib

Alas, we cannot do this, including for the sake of saving Turkey. Turkey today "skips" along the neo-Ottoman path prescribed by the United States. Prescribed in order to flood BV with blood and eventually perish itself. We are trying to return Turkey to the path prescribed by Ataturk. That is why we are building the "Turkish Stream", nuclear power plants, expanding trade and economic cooperation, and so on.
In general, Turkey should take a closer look at intelligence head Hakan Fidan (who studied in the United States), it is likely that he works for the CIA, just as his mentor Gulen does.

[Simple]

So the portrait of Ataturk hangs in the office of the chief of the General Staff of Turkey.

[flicker]

And the portrait is hanging, and the Ataturk Mausoleum in Ankara stands, we can say that all the FORMALITIES are present, but Ataturk does not have the political maturity.

[Simple]

Well said.
But it is unrealistic to "transplant" the "political maturity" of Ataturk to Erdogan.

Alas, the train has already passed a possible turn.

Autocracy. it's like a whirlpool from which there is no way out.

[Chaldon48]

The Russian leadership is demonstrating to Turkey its position and this is a position of strength.

[Livonetc]

Perfectly.
Moscow will not depart, and Ankara will stand aside.
She was offered the honor, but she could not cope.
Now let him look to learn.

[Ros 56]

It is better for the Turks to return home, it will suit everyone except the Turks, but such is la la vie.

[ufpb]

I think we don’t have to hang all the dogs on Erdogan. He has a problem with the army, as Yanukovych had a problem in 2014, for the most part (unit commanders) they don’t really support their commander in chief. NATO, namely the United States, works well with mid-level officers. Moscow Region and the chief of the General Staff do not do weather.

[kebeskin]

Erdogan is now in the top position. Initially, they entered Sioia to fight ISIS; now it turns out that we are already at war with the kaimitot obscure pro-Turkish barmels. Unfriendly gas pipe in Ukraine changed to Turkish. Which can also be easier to block. C400 sold which also against us can sing. Well, the most interesting thing is if you block the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, hello to the supply of our troops. There will only be an air express on which you can not take much. So the situation is not simple.

[Jeremiah]

Well, of course, if it were not for the construction of yachts for the Abromovichs and Gundyaevs not to feed the faces of the governors and cops generals, then it would be possible to have a fleet in the Black Sea, the squadron of which, becoming in line of sight from Istanbul, would eliminate any stupid questions because "bargaining would not be appropriate" so the fleet is enough to nightmare Kuevsky pelvis and poachers. And the Turkish fleet is a real force and coastal airfields too .. And what about the disputes about an aircraft carrier or an aircraft-carrying cruiser, for example, the same one that was sold to the Indians ... And then the poor "Kuzya" does not float and does not sink ... I want so much not to wipe your feet about you and do nothing for this ..

[DenZ]

Quote: Jeremiah

And the Turkish fleet is a real force and coastal airfields too.

And our coastal batteries are not real strength? Missiles reach Turkey very well from the other side of the Black Sea (and to Turkish airfields). Does this seem unknown to you? Only the position of our only aircraft-carrying cruiser, which by the way is not at all in the Black Sea, for some reason excites you. Losing position, demagoguery.

[Jeremiah]

The position of your aircraft carrier allows it to be anywhere with equal benefit. The sold ships and "Kuzya" were mentioned there as an indicator of the readiness and condition of the fleet. Coastal batteries of Crimea and Taman? "Bastions"? You can write down. It is intended to destroy surface ships of various classes and types from amphibious formations, convoys, ship and aircraft carrier strike groups, as well as single ships and ground radio contrast targets in conditions of intense fire and electronic countermeasures. Turkey is no longer in the Stone Age and they also have electronic warfare systems. and missile defense too. And the fact that the performance characteristics promise to fly does not mean that the missiles will reach their targets. Missile health percentage, as always +/- 70? "Calibers? They are simply not enough. Besides, you immediately get the largest ulcer in the Caucasus behind your back. The straits are closing. The Turkish aviation still has an account in its favor and the Ottomans will not look with gusto at missile positions. The experience of your pilots ... very controversial, the radar and missile armament, too, are permeated with Demagoguery and shapkozidatelstvo all local posts, these are statements of people who hope to sit out on the sofas while others will die it is not clear why ... And on holidays they will then tearfully remember to drink vodka for peace ... and for great Russia.

[serzh.kost]

Turkish fanboys, stop taking wishful thinking and frighten the Turkish threat here. could close the straits - would close already. and how long.
you would have to work as advisers to the sultan, I don’t know why you are not sending your resume yet

[Jeremiah]

Watch the wonderful film "Officers" There are the right words: "Think! The commander is obliged to think, and not to wave a sword." with little blood. a mighty blow, which then poured into the Crimean War, Manchuria, Tsushima, East Prussia, Warsaw, thousands of people frozen in Finland, millions of prisoners, head-on attacks on prepared positions. may also add from the history of modern Russia. The easiest way to declare an enemy ... This was already in the thirties. During thought better of

[serzh.kost]

war is always bad, this is an extreme option. but this does not cancel the need to firmly uphold their interests, to make sure that the enemy is also not tempted to start an escalation.
and the reality in my opinion is that the Sultan will not break all ties with Moscow for a piece of Syrian land, then there will be no turning back.
it is BV with its intrigues, and Turkey needs Russia to receive its economic dividends and in a tangle of contradictions with the United States.
and how many wars were started through the fault of Russia and how many through the fault of "partners"?

[Jeremiah]

I agree. You just need to clearly understand your capabilities. Better overestimate the enemy and underestimate yourself

[Aleks2048]

I read the article ... I read the comments ... It is curious that neither the article nor the comments particularly ask the question, why are we in Syria? Without an answer to which it is impossible to decide the question of whether it is worth entering into confrontation with Turkey. From the very beginning of our participation in the conflict in Syria, the true goals of our presence in Syria were not indicated. You can only believe in fighting ISIS out of the scarcity of your imagination. Fighting ISIS can only be a secondary collateral goal. One might think that ISIS was actively going to attack the Russian Federation. ISIS, we seem to have won on the statement of our supreme ... So why are we in Syria now? Are the Turks claiming the territory of our two shortages in Syria? And one more question, let's say we’ll quarrel with the Turks and they will leave, but what are we going to do with the United States, which has quite a shortage of supplies in Syria and even pump the resources of Syria? And then the questions only multiply, let's say that liberate the territory of Syria from the militants and foreign troops, will this be the end of our humanitarian aid to Syria, or will we defend Syria? How far will we look in the foreign policy of "brotherhood" and "friendship of peoples" rather than temporary coincidences of commercial interests?

[Tzar]

Quote: Alex2048

why are we in Syria?

The answer to the question is in Putin's quote

Sometimes a thought occurs to me myself - can our bear sit quietly and not drive piglets and pigs through the taiga? Can he eat berries and honey? No. Everyone always wants to put a bear on a chain. And as soon as they succeed in planting, they will tear out both their teeth and claws. And as soon as this happens, then the bear is not needed. They will clean up the taiga right away ”

If we are not there, there will be those who are against us.

[Aleks2048]

The answer to the question is in Putin's quote

And in the case there are still mudrisms from the Most Serene?

We will not be there - there will be those who are against us.

Do you have your own thoughts?

[Tzar]

Quote: Alex2048

Do you have your own thoughts?

I have, but why paint them in detail for the twentieth time, if possible briefly and succinctly. Moreover, your comment is quite provocative, repeating hackneyed phrases:

Quote: Alex2048

From the very beginning of our participation in the conflict in Syria, the true goals of our presence in Syria have not been outlined.

The goal was designated - to support the official government and the fight against terrorism. and it remains to this day. Or do you want it to be issued: "We want to establish our sphere of influence in Syria"?

Quote: Alex2048

You might think that ISIS was actively planning to attack the Russian Federation

Imagine, many radicals from the Russian Federation left there, and they were going to return.

Quote: Alex2048

Turks pretend on the territory of our two undersupply in Syria?

The appetites of the Turks are much more extensive.

[Aleks2048]

Imagine, many radicals from the Russian Federation left there, and they were going to return.

Or maybe cheaper companies in Syria with an incomprehensible humanitarian bias to equip the border of the Russian Federation, airports, train stations, etc. adequate means so that terrorists do not leak to us. And all this miracle could be made from domestic components. Can you imagine how the economy would move?

[Tzar]

It is unlikely that this will help; in Europe there is good control, but they even penetrate it. So the campaign is more reliable and more useful for the army.

[Aleks2048]

It is unlikely that this will help; in Europe there is good control, but they even penetrate it. So the campaign is more reliable and more useful for the army.

The United States brings "democracy" around the world, and September XNUMX happened to them.

[Jeremiah]

So that gas from Kuwait does not go to Europe ... That's why you are there

[Charik]

it's all about the 'pipe'

[sagitch]

This is our cow, and we must milk it. A full milk can only be obtained from a whole, healthy cow.

[serzh.kost]

check and mate, Turkey transferred S-400 air defense systems to the border with Syria.

[rotmistr60]

You see, Ankara and Moscow have no problems. But at the same time declares

if Russia ceases to support Syrian government forces and "step aside"

Isn't he starting to lay straws under the authority of Erdogan? The Turks will not get the idea with Idlib, and you can always refer to the fact that Russia did not "step aside", and we were not going to fight with it.

[Roman070280]

Russia will cease supporting the government Syrian forces and will "step aside."

Well, straightforward simplicity itself ..
We’ve been doing it for 5 years that we supported Assad .. despite the quarrels with the USA and NATO ..
and here we have to take it and move away ..
He would still at the same time offered to give Crimea to Ukraine ..))

[Lamata]

We have an agreement with the SAR, but what about the Turks?

[Grits]

Quote: Lamata

We have an agreement with the SAR, but what about the Turks?

Also a contract. Only with barmaleys

[Lamata]

barmalei recognized by the UN? let the un and dummy.

[Horon]

The minister stressed that Ankara has no problems with Moscow, and the “Syrian regime” is to blame for everything.

Turkey's problem is rather its unwillingness to disarm its proxies by making them really peaceful people, in which case it would be easier for Moscow to explain the protection of civilians from the "regime". In the meantime, the word "peaceful" is somehow too badly combined with the armed militants now and then bullying the SSA.

[Lelek]

According to Akar, there is a "healthy dialogue" between Ankara and Moscow, within which the parties are trying to solve the Idlib problem.

A healthy dialogue or is ill in principle does not matter. The deeds and their results are important. And they (IMHO) are as follows - Turkish units at the beginning of the week were in the "cauldron" and the Russian military took them out of the "cauldron" and transported to the border

The Russian Aerospace Forces, at the request of the SAA, inflicted a powerful blow on the "bearded" in Idlib.

And Turkey nevertheless went on an aggravation and attacked the SAA.

In general, the agreements are fucked up, how the situation will (and whether) will "settle down" is not clear. But as a result of its behavior in the BV, Turkey acquires another enemy:

[Roman 57 rus]

Maybe now just the disposal of barmaley ?? No wonder they were collected there? And graters with Turks, so that the barmalei did not understand that they would be disposed of ??

[orionvitt]

It turns out that in order to destroy the barmaley, it is absolutely necessary to pump them with weapons, equipment, and cover up the Turkish military? What a strange method. It was just that Turkey had forgotten imperial ambitions. The old woman remembered how young she was.

[Charik]

it’s not my fault (Turkey), he himself came (Assad in Idlib)

[Professor Preobrazhensky]

We are fighting there because of the hydrocarbon market and, accordingly, fighting there due to the sale of hydrocarbons.
For us it’s like breathing to live and living to breathe.
For us, the interests of Syria or Turkey are secondary, if we leave this war, we will lose the European gas market and our economy will collapse.

[sleeve]

But in general, what's the matter? The situation, as always in the Middle East, requires a compromise. Assad still has endless political credit inside Syria. In an idlib, a truncated form will create an enclave with access to Turkey. Free exchange of populations will balance the situation. In return it’s cunning .... diplomatic Russia will encircle the borders of the enclave with beautiful instructions for use, so much so that there will be eternal tension without development. The Turks will tire of feeding a whole crowd of burials in 30 years. A Palestinian carousel will go. Well, maybe some other nuances, without much deviation from the topic. Well, it’s not a bad, eternal point of tension, where if you remove us, it will be sour, and if you don’t remove us, you need to listen.

[Butchcassidy]

Hold your pocket wider))

[orionvitt]

Ankara has no problems with Moscow, and the "Syrian regime" is to blame.

And Moscow has no problems with Ankara, the "American regime" is to blame. Turkey can kick up and show its fi US as long as it wants, everyone knows the true state of affairs. Or we don't know where most of the problems in the Middle East come from.

[Metallurg_2]

Though they don’t need to shut up, just like a little Brittany - that’s good.

[tolmachiev51]

- "if Russia ceases to support the government Syrian forces and" steps aside "- who are you for," white or red "!? or like penguins for oil !!!