Su-24 VKS of the Russian Federation was able to get away from hitting MANPADS missiles over Idlib

Su-24 VKS of the Russian Federation was able to get away from hitting MANPADS missiles over Idlib

Militants from pro-Turkish groups tried to bring down a Russian Su-24 front-line bomber, which attacked the advancing militant units in the area of ​​the village of Nairab, Idlib province.


According to information from various sources of information, militants of pro-Turkish groups tried to bring down the Russian front-line bomber Su-24 of the Russian Air Force. For this, one of the MANPADS delivered to the groupings was used. But the Russian plane managed to get away from the rocket, after which it self-destructed.

It is already specifically known that the militants tried to bring down the Russian Su-24, and not belonging to the Syrian Air Force.


As previously reported, in the Idlib de-escalation zone, an offensive began by militants who broke through the defenses of the Syrian government army and were even able to capture part of Nairab. The offensive was actively supported by Turkish artillery and MLRS, which attacked Syrian positions. The command of the Syrian army requested the help of the Russian air force, front-line bombers Su-24 of the air force of the Russian Federation struck the attacking militants, thereby stopping the attack and drove the advanced gang forces back to the starting line. Several units of armored vehicles destroyed by air strikes.

It is known that to cover the actions of the Su-24, Su-35 fighters of the Russian Aerospace Forces were used.



According to recent reports, Russia called on Ankara to stop supporting gangs in Idlib province and to refuse to transfer arms to them.



Recall: the day before Erdogan said that the start of the Turkish operation in Idlib is a matter of time. Apparently, today the Turkish president decided that this time has come.
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  1. rotkiv04 20 February 2020 17: 59 New
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    It's time to calibrate the barmalei, and at the same time the Turks
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    2. snifer 20 February 2020 18: 02 New
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      I understand you write from the trench?
      1. rotkiv04 20 February 2020 18: 06 New
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        Is it your sarcasm? If so, not original, come up with something your own
        1. snifer 20 February 2020 18: 18 New
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          Yes, what a sarcasm is it to me. Hurray ahead and drafts for a hollow. More original comment than yours is not given to me to think up. Now our country lacks a full-scale war with Turkey.
          1. Range 20 February 2020 18: 29 New
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            Erdogan is simply trying to launch a "self-liquidator", and very insistently. Do not bother him in this. He behaves like a "monkey with a grenade."
          2. Cryvedco 20 February 2020 18: 49 New
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            Where do you come from so peace-loving ... And if you blow dry again, you will also justify the fact that war is not needed and it’s finally not good to roll a barrel on respected people over some kind of airplane ?! When partners specifically get healthy, it’s important to give the teeth in time, not much, but so that they understand. Otherwise, then our blood will also be shed, and it will be necessary to calm it down harder.
            1. snifer 20 February 2020 18: 55 New
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              Is it our partners that we sold the S400 to? They’re free? Yes, this cannot happen, Russian and Turkish brothers forever (but this is sarcasm). For me, the Turks were never respected partners. Time to give in the teeth was in the 15th year.
              1. Cryvedco 20 February 2020 19: 04 New
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                Well, that’s what the Supreme calls them, like everyone else. I’m supporting about 15 years, but now we have what we have, we need to somehow act on the basis of the current situation, and in such a way that everything comes to the dull
              2. SOVIET UNION 2 20 February 2020 20: 07 New
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                Yes, we build a nuclear power plant on credit. And the S-400 is also a loan. And the stream was extended to them. Russia now cut off his grandmother?
                1. kjhg 20 February 2020 20: 36 New
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                  Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                  Russia now cut off his grandmother?

                  Collect from those who agreed and signed these contracts
                  1. EvilLion 21 February 2020 13: 04 New
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                    Nothing that because of these contracts, the Turks should now not 7, but 27 times to think about whether to conflict with us. "Tomatoes will not get off."
                    1. Days 21 February 2020 14: 48 New
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                      Quote: EvilLion
                      Nothing that because of these contracts, the Turks should now not 7, but 27 times to think about whether to conflict with us. "Tomatoes will not get off."

                      Nifiga like that:
                      - They have already received S-400, and will receive hugs from the USA if they transfer it to study
                      - we need the flow, and not them, because they will switch to neighbors at any time, they will be happy to stretch 25 pokotas too (several gas pipelines as part of the Southern Gas Corridor are being built right now, with gas intake from Azerbaijan, Iran, Turkmenistan)
                      - We also need nuclear power plants, not them, but they will just freeze Akkuy and will invite the Chinese to build nearby

                      In general, they lose nothing, and Russia is losing, because it is all financed by loans issued from the budget of Russia.
                      1. EvilLion 21 February 2020 15: 13 New
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                        There is only one office in the world that can build nuclear power plants - this is Rosatom. About "the flow is not for them," so you know what, take an ax and give them the switchgear. guard to not immediately fix it. And live like that.
              3. Observer2014 20 February 2020 20: 20 New
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                Quote: snifer
                Is it our partners that we sold the S400 to? They’re free? Yes, this cannot happen, Russian and Turkish brothers forever (but this is sarcasm). For me, the Turks were never respected partners. Time to give in the teeth was in the 15th year.

                yes What a colleague. Uryakalki and lobbyists of great Armenia? ran into a common opinion. This is normal. There is no single definition in the current World. There is no clear border between ours and not ours. There are the interests of our country. Here now. And in each case. drinks
            2. Ka-52 21 February 2020 05: 09 New
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              Where do you come from so peace-loving ... And if you blow dry again, you will also justify the fact that war is not needed and it’s finally not good to roll a barrel on respected people over some kind of airplane ?!

              No need to wave propaganda cliches here. Shouting "we will avenge" and "you can’t forgive it," every fool can. What exactly do you propose? For example
              1. Cryvedco 21 February 2020 18: 51 New
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                For concrete proposals to the General Staff - it’s better to see from there than from my sofa. They are unlikely to be voiced to you, but they are, infa 146%, the main thing is that at the right time the Faberge should be in place. Counter-question - what do you propose? Get cancer, have fun? Issue a few posthumous stars and express deep concern?
            3. evgenii67 21 February 2020 15: 14 New
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              when partners specifically get healthy, it’s important to give the teeth in time,
              and crush will not break? You are so brave. Well, for reference, Turkey has one of the most powerful NATO armies, if not the strongest after the United States. And in Syria, by and large, Russia has nothing to oppose to the Turks. But we will continue to fuss and try to wave our fists.
              1. Cryvedco 21 February 2020 18: 57 New
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                Oh, well, that’s it, we need to be afraid of them, scarecrow. That's it, we change the concept: in which case we immediately express our protest without crawling out from under the sheet. So the rules?
                1. evgenii67 21 February 2020 20: 07 New
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                  Quote: Creedco
                  Oh, well, that’s it, we need to be afraid of them, scarecrow. That's it, we change the concept: in which case we immediately express our protest without crawling out from under the sheet. So the rules?

                  Well, as an option, once again express concern.
          3. Tuxuu 20 February 2020 19: 14 New
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            A full-blown conflict is practically not real, no one will go to it. They will butt but limited forces and all
            1. snifer 20 February 2020 19: 20 New
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              and not large-scale, in a limited theater of operations in Syria, it also does not bode well for us, the forces are clearly not equal
              1. Nikolai Grek 20 February 2020 21: 45 New
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                Quote: snifer
                and not large-scale, in a limited theater of operations in Syria, it also does not bode well for us, the forces are clearly not equal

                and the Turks will have direct “profit” nowhere to go from the conflict with Russia !!! wink
            2. opuonmed 20 February 2020 19: 24 New
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              but we’ll see it for 2 days today tomorrow we will see the Turks attack the Russian Federation soldiers or not, they need to suppress the aircraft in order to successfully navigate the Syrians
              1. brat07 21 February 2020 02: 30 New
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                Quote: opuonmed
                but we’ll see it for 2 days today tomorrow we will see the Turks attack the Russian Federation soldiers or not, they need to suppress the aircraft in order to successfully navigate the Syrians

                Pavel, excuse me, but for starters, at least in Russian you would have learned to print well!
                My minus.
          4. Leeds 20 February 2020 19: 16 New
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            Quote: snifer
            Yes, what a sarcasm is it to me. Hurray ahead and drafts for a hollow. More original comment than yours is not given to me to think up. Now our country lacks a full-scale war with Turkey.

            It was dangerous ... It is strange why they did not use the SU-34. In the video, the Su-35, covering the air in the zone of the database.
            Turks are asking the United States to bring the Patriot to the border. As they become more impudent, we saw today. The fact that this is dangerous can not be explained even stupid.

            The Turks fired a lot from self-propelled guns and MLRS, they themselves glowed on the front end.

            They say that everything will start tomorrow. Persistence of CAA.

            They themselves write that this (the Turks in the ranks of green and black) will make them fight even braver.
            1. Saxahorse 20 February 2020 23: 21 New
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              It was dangerous ... It is strange why they did not use the SU-34. In the video, the Su-35, covering the air in the zone of the database.

              Why flap your wings over the battlefield when there is a wonderful MLRS Tornado. Fit the division and bring heat and light to partners and barmels in bulk quantities. With a range of Smerch in 120 km, you can shoot the whole Idlib without leaving a place, and even enough for Turkey along with future Patriots on the border ..
          5. Sergey Averchenkov 20 February 2020 19: 54 New
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            Nevertheless, I think Turkey should be crushed a little, otherwise it will become impudent. War is certainly not necessary, but it is necessary to push.
          6. Sapsan136 20 February 2020 19: 55 New
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            Anyone who prefers shame to war receives both war and shame, time proved.!
            1. Nikolai Grek 20 February 2020 21: 49 New
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              Quote: Sapsan136
              Anyone who prefers shame to war receives both war and shame, time proved.!

              current perdogasha wants to expand his "Ottoman Empire", and in the end can reduce Turkey !!! lol Turks historically without any shame preferred war - as a result, they reached the present state !! wassat
              1. Sapsan136 21 February 2020 11: 49 New
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                This is because, starting the war, the Turks hoped not for their own, but for other people's bayonets ... And now they are hoping for the Yankees, but in vain ...
                1. Nikolai Grek 22 February 2020 00: 46 New
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                  Quote: Sapsan136
                  This is because, starting the war, the Turks hoped not for their own, but for other people's bayonets ... And now they are hoping for the Yankees, but in vain ...

                  it's out of trouble wassat !!!
            2. BastaKarapuzik And 22 February 2020 11: 03 New
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              One of the parties may behave completely unreasonably, this does not mean that the other side should take mirror measures. East is a delicate matter; they are too impulsive and emotional. In this region, everyone does not like each other; we still did not have enough time to get in there on the same conditions, as one of the parties to the conflict. We just have to act as a more or less neutral party that has its own interests, but nevertheless is not hostile to the main players in the region. Diplomacy, information companies, the delicate work of special services, and there can be quite banal money, all this is no less effective than the MLRS.
              1. Sapsan136 24 February 2020 00: 10 New
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                In the East, only power is respected, someone who at least once behaved like a woman will never be respected and taken seriously, he will remain a woman, a jester and a clown for life ...
                1. BastaKarapuzik And 24 February 2020 10: 26 New
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                  The emotionality of the people of this region is over the top, specifically about the Turks I do not have accurate information, but the Arabs are generally completely impulsive and unbalanced. There are many examples of this. At least we definitely do not need to behave like Arabs. As for strength, this is true, but strength must not be shown in hysteria.
                  1. Sapsan136 24 February 2020 11: 17 New
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                    I agree about hysteria, she’s generally a bad helper, but boltology is not power, they are not respected in the East ... and they are not respected anywhere ... It makes sense to negotiate only after the use of force, when the enemy is defeated, or got so serious I’m ready to give up, on conditions favorable to the Russian Federation ...
          7. olegactor 20 February 2020 20: 32 New
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            Very now, our country lacks a full-scale war with Turkey.

            but why do you think there’s enough for the Turks ... they only respect strength ... learn history
          8. Chingachguk 20 February 2020 20: 56 New
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            Do you propose that the Turk be frightened, that God give in to her, with this Syria?
          9. artifact 20 February 2020 21: 25 New
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            Quote: snifer
            Very now, our country lacks a full-scale war with Turkey.

            the tactics of the campaign are as follows: - SSA lure the barmaley to a counterattack and utilize it in every possible way. so that the turretchina had as little infantry as possible on the spot. the Turks themselves will help with artillery, but they are unlikely to get to clean the area. whose soldier will control - that and the territory! I want to note that Russia and Turkey will not have to face directly, although the war is already going on indirectly between us ...
            1. Nikolai Grek 20 February 2020 21: 50 New
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              Quote: artifact
              the Turks themselves will help with artillery,

              it must be extinguished too !!! am
              1. artifact 20 February 2020 21: 55 New
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                Quote: artifact
                the Turks themselves will help with artillery,

                it must be extinguished too !!! am

                I am for ! but, now a direct clash with the Turks is impractical, in any case, it should not be unleashed on our part.
                1. Nikolai Grek 20 February 2020 22: 14 New
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                  Quote: artifact
                  Quote: Nikolai Grek
                  Quote: artifact
                  the Turks themselves will help with artillery,

                  it must be extinguished too !!! am

                  I am for ! but, now a direct clash with the Turks is impractical, in any case, it should not be unleashed on our part.

                  everything there must be extinguished Turkish !!! am busting will only be if our planes in the open Istanbul begin to bomb !! repeat wassat
                  1. artifact 20 February 2020 22: 18 New
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                    as they say, "let's do without fanaticism" no hi
                    1. Nikolai Grek 20 February 2020 23: 57 New
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                      Quote: artifact
                      as they say, "let's do without fanaticism" no hi

                      Well I indicated where the search is !!! repeat laughing
          10. Nikolai Grek 20 February 2020 21: 43 New
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            Quote: snifer
            Very now, our country lacks a full-scale war with Turkey.

            what and when will it be enough? !!! laughing
          11. Ros 56 21 February 2020 16: 51 New
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            As I understand it, you are now trying to teach us the mind from the Foreign Office. How is the weather in Moscow, what is visible from the window?
      2. brr1 20 February 2020 18: 38 New
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        Quote: snifer
        I understand you write from the trench?

        Yes, we are actually writing everything from the couch. We are on the fringes of the information war.
        1. snifer 20 February 2020 18: 48 New
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          We are yes, but ours, in Syria, at the very edge of this war, and our expeditionary force is in an extremely vulnerable position. We will defeat all of us, beat the Turks a hundred times, hurray, go ahead, a vigorous warhead, it’s extremely stupid. I consider it a manifestation of extreme stupidity and shortsightedness all previous kisses and dances with Turkey. Well, for those who disagree, I do not chase the pluses, you can minus.
          1. Leeds 20 February 2020 19: 40 New
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            Quote: snifer
            We are yes, but ours, in Syria, at the very edge of this war, and our expeditionary force is in an extremely vulnerable position. We will defeat all of us, beat the Turks a hundred times, hurray, go ahead, a vigorous warhead, it’s extremely stupid. I consider it a manifestation of extreme stupidity and shortsightedness all previous kisses and dances with Turkey. Well, for those who disagree, I do not chase the pluses, you can minus.


            Do not pay attention to the stupidity of individuals who are more concerned with virtual shoulder straps than with the danger that our pilots, militants of the MTR and other soldiers and specialists involved in the operation are exposed to.
            MIKHAN is a brand.
          2. Naive 20 February 2020 20: 25 New
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            Only if the Turks do not respond very harshly to our corps will it be even worse and not only in Syria and not only the corps.
            1. Chingachguk 20 February 2020 21: 07 New
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              I fully support! With one, two strikes of the videoconferencing system, destroy all Turkish equipment in Syrian territory and put together a UN meeting, where in an ultimatum form urge the Turk to abandon provocations, seize Syrian territory and support terrorists! And for the fact that they have already done it, to sanction them and not to remove them until these boobies come to their senses and apologize! The more we will be with them, the better, the desire to try us on the tooth again will disappear!
              1. Garris199 21 February 2020 00: 52 New
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                You say so, as if we had there, at least the combined arms army and the air force corps. Our forces there are very limited if we consider operations against the regular army, and not formations on carts.
          3. Simfy 20 February 2020 22: 01 New
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            plus we must not forget that NATO is behind Turkey, the Yankees can only wait for a good excuse for a war "on the territory of others and the wrong hands"
            1. Chingachguk 21 February 2020 08: 26 New
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              I assume that the sky is closed to the Turks, and aviation decides almost the entire outcome of this event. Further, I would like to clarify that the 5th NATO amendment can be applied when a NATO country was attacked, and not when a NATO country was hit in the teeth by the territory it illegally invaded.
              1. Nikolay73 21 February 2020 09: 29 New
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                There is only one BUT ... all their amendments "work" only if and where they need it ... with all of my things to our military, our contingent will not pull out a full-scale military operation, and we and they understand this. Ours and so did there a lot of relatively small forces, for which they honor, praise and respect. As for the Turks, in my opinion, less emotion is needed, politics is a dirty business and it has always been so everywhere. The strategy, in my opinion, in strengthening our positions with the least possible damage to us, doesn’t sound very good, only other options, in my opinion, are even worse ... IMHO, as always. And the guys - to return home alive and healthy.
                1. Chingachguk 21 February 2020 22: 20 New
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                  We have created and armed not a bad army of Syria, there are also Iranian forces, running around, the Turks will sit in a puddle if the United States does not subscribe for them.
                  1. Nikolay73 25 February 2020 09: 17 New
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                    You know, to be honest, it will happen to the Turks to me violet ... but with ours, no, with amers, dancing with sabers to dance, in my opinion, pleasure is below average.
                    1. Chingachguk 25 February 2020 19: 54 New
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                      I agree with you. But alas and ah, judging by everything that is happening around Russia and its interests, someone still needs to cut off their ears so that others do not get used to it. And without any long explanations BEFORE ........... But AFTER explaining it is intelligible for what, and what can be continued with extremities if it did not reach .... Risk. I agree. But a demonstration of the skill, strength and coherence of our specialists has been needed for a long time.
                      1. Nikolay73 26 February 2020 09: 30 New
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                        I do not have the proper level of competence to make such serious decisions.
                      2. Chingachguk 26 February 2020 22: 53 New
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                        Sorry, otherwise I would have done as you say !!!! laughing
    3. Stalllker 21 February 2020 01: 59 New
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      From behind the couch
      1. Chingachguk 21 February 2020 08: 27 New
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        Yes, I write while sitting on the couch. Do you broadcast from trenches in Syria?
        1. Stalllker 21 February 2020 09: 49 New
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          I don’t broadcast anything at all, you made a mistake with the address
  2. Dmitry Potapov 20 February 2020 18: 04 New
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    Or "Borea" go into the Mediterranean Sea "to replenish supplies"
    1. Bashkirkhan 20 February 2020 18: 32 New
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      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Or "Borea" go into the Mediterranean Sea "to replenish supplies"

      Suggest hammering nails with a microscope? And the Mediterranean Sea if that.
    2. evgen81 20 February 2020 19: 02 New
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      Yes, we feed them plutonium on the tonsils !!!
  3. Piramidon 20 February 2020 18: 07 New
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    Quote: rotkiv04
    It's time calibrate the barmalei, and at the same time the Turks

    How easy it is to scatter slogans and calls, sitting on the couch, collecting likes. Well, you take it, go and do what you think is "high time", "as much as possible", "how long" ... To knock on the clave - not to sit in the trench.
    1. rotkiv04 20 February 2020 18: 14 New
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      As I understand it, this is your workplace
      1. Piramidon 20 February 2020 18: 20 New
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        Quote: rotkiv04
        As I understand it, this is your workplace

        I, unlike you, do not scatter such empty slogans and appeals.
    2. luk
      luk 20 February 2020 19: 24 New
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      Cool car. Where can I buy?
      1. Svarog51 20 February 2020 20: 12 New
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        This is proprietary information. wink If the device is really needed - the company "sofas of Russia." No thanks, I am from the bottom of my heart. yes
    3. Chingachguk 20 February 2020 21: 11 New
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      And what are you doing? Were such pictures already prepared? And in all likelihood you are not broadcasting from the couch, but from a stool hard !!! So to say, do not look for easy ways !!! laughing
      1. Piramidon 20 February 2020 23: 37 New
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        You’re not broadcasting from the couch, but from a hard stool

        Do not guess. From a soft armchair on wheels. good laughing
    4. mat-vey 21 February 2020 07: 30 New
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      Quote: Piramidon
      Well, you take it, go and do what you think is "high time", "as much as possible", "how long" ...

      What do you think is not a warrior who advises to "start with oneself"?
  4. figwam 20 February 2020 18: 11 New
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    Quote: rotkiv04
    It's time to calibrate the barmalei, and at the same time the Turks

    Thanks to the modernization, after which the SVP-24 Hephaestus system was installed on the Su-24M, which allows accurate strikes from a height of 5 km, where MANPADS are useless.
    1. tech3030 20 February 2020 19: 02 New
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      The Turks can throw something bigger to the barmaley, that’s the trouble. Yes, they can use aviation ...
  5. Killemall 20 February 2020 18: 15 New
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    Well, it started ... (((Turks reported the loss of several military from airstrikes ... now the mess will begin ..
    1. Rusik.S 20 February 2020 18: 19 New
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      But they did not say what the Turkish military did among the terrorists?
      1. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 18: 38 New
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        Su-24 VKS of the Russian Federation was able to get away from hitting MANPADS missiles over Idlib
        handsome guys. what to say. You can’t fall at all, in principle. and over the "unshaven" ... you yourself know ... WOTS TO GUYS! drinks
        1. private person 20 February 2020 18: 59 New
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          WOTS TO GUYS!

          The guys themselves are probably in shock, there is a lot of vodka needed.
      2. Runoway 20 February 2020 19: 02 New
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        But they did not say what the Turkish military did among the terrorists?

        And you know, our Foreign Ministry also has no final definiteness about the Turks.
        Since the downed Su-24
        Erdogan is either a terrorist, or an economic partner, or an ISIS doctor, or an ally in the fight against terrorists.
        Excuse me, but all the excuses for the guilt of the pro-American opposition who tried to overthrow Erdogan are nonsense, because Turkish Defense Minister Chavushoglu was in power and now all his official statements about the downed plane (with all the extortion from the ground and reporters) are available
        Again, our ambassador is being threatened, promising skyscrapers from the skulls of the Russian military, and no one has even imposed a ban on holidays in Turkey
        1. luk
          luk 20 February 2020 19: 26 New
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          Cavusoglu - Minister of Foreign Affairs
          1. Runoway 20 February 2020 22: 21 New
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            Thanks for the amendment, but the point is not changing
        2. Nikolay73 21 February 2020 09: 40 New
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          There is a state policy - it’s me about your ban on rest ... but there is a personal policy, do you personally buy vegetables, fruits or clothes from Turkey? Not? Then why do you need a ban on holidays in Turkey? Maybe enough to blame the whole country? As for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, not only in the Moscow Region people are risking their lives, I thought this did not need to be explained to adults ...
          1. Runoway 21 February 2020 10: 50 New
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            Then why do you need a ban on holidays in Turkey?

            Then, that the government in the presence of intelligence and closed negotiations knows more than the media. Then, that the government should take care of citizens, and not let it happen, so as not to upset the Sultan outflow of tourists.
            The fact is that from the ban on tomatoes and from the ban on charters, someone has financial losses under the government, the ban was lifted and now they are in no hurry to introduce
            1. Nikolay73 21 February 2020 11: 04 New
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              Do you have specific facts on hand?
      3. RideMaster 20 February 2020 19: 29 New
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        So you just asked, the Turks were ashamed and left Syria. You saved the world without getting up off the couch, cheers.
      4. Killemall 20 February 2020 21: 30 New
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        here I don’t even have such a question, for everything is clear as a white day.
      5. cradle 21 February 2020 02: 39 New
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        daisies were collected in the field ... well, as usual
  6. private person 20 February 2020 18: 57 New
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    It's time to calibrate the barmalei, and at the same time the Turks

    You are a joker, however, and the next time you are leading, the SU-24 may not leave the MANPADS. And what does it mean to calibrate? Use Caliber rockets against the Turks?
    1. Dude 20 February 2020 19: 11 New
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      Quote: private person
      It's time to calibrate the barmalei, and at the same time the Turks

      You are a joker, however, and the next time you are leading, the SU-24 may not leave the MANPADS. And what does it mean to calibrate? Use Caliber rockets against the Turks?

      Why is he a joker?
      If the Turks take hostile actions against our VKS, MTR, or VP, then it is simply necessary to calibrate, moreover, firmly and immediately, IMHO.
      Another thing is that in our leadership, for sure, there will be opponents of such a policy. The very ones, it seems to me, who lobbied for the sale of a significant air defense complex and the construction of nuclear power plants and pipelines to our historical rivals (and if not equivalent to enemies), moreover, which is typical, for our money
      1. RideMaster 20 February 2020 19: 30 New
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        I bet you are not aware that even all the calibers will not be enough for significant losses from Turkey.
        Wacky, calibrate)
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          Quote: RideMaster
          I bet you are not aware that even all the calibers will not be enough for significant losses from Turkey.
          Wacky, calibrate)

          And to argue, I know very well that the number of new high-tech weapons we have is depressingly small sad
          But it is necessary to answer, in certain cases, even if it will be expensive and difficult.
          Otherwise, everyone will beat. And always.
          About Uryakalok - this is not for me, dear novoreg.
      2. private person 20 February 2020 20: 16 New
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        If the Turks take hostile action against our VKS, MTR, or VP,

        So the fact of the matter is that the Turks can do it with the wrong hands, and then still offer to “help” the investigation. As it was, or you forgot.
        1. Dude 20 February 2020 20: 43 New
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          Turks can do it with their own hands
          Yes it looks like they do already do it yourself, judging by the video that appeared on the network.
  7. Alexey from Perm 20 February 2020 19: 28 New
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    Are we ready for war?
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      Are we ready for war?

      how to say ... if for the army there are no gunpowder suitable for shooting, then not really ...
    2. Grigory_45 20 February 2020 20: 36 New
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      Are we ready for war?

      what do you think? How long will the Russian counterparty (rather few in number) last in Syria in the absence of supplies and replenishment of military units from the "big land" ???
      1. Alexey from Perm 20 February 2020 22: 37 New
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        I also think that we can support the Syrians, but their forces are bled by a prolonged war, if Iran joined, then yes. If you do not agree with Iran, then there will be a drain of the Syrians, perhaps shameful.
        1. Nastia makarova 21 February 2020 08: 13 New
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          there will be no direct war, everything was agreed long ago
  8. Uncle Izya 20 February 2020 20: 40 New
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    Do not write sushi at the Turks 235 f-16 s / d modifications than you knock them down with a sword kladenetsom?
    the S-400 division suffers losses but you can’t argue against such an armada with a division
    1. Mathafaka 20 February 2020 22: 00 New
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      Oh, you also listened to Hodarenka)
      1. Uncle Izya 21 February 2020 08: 00 New
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        Clever guy the pvoshnik studied in Minsk
  • elai 20 February 2020 18: 00 New
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    God forbid as little as possible losses Syriyuam and the absence of losses to the Russians!
  • Livonetc 20 February 2020 18: 00 New
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    Lucky guys.
    1. DMB 75 20 February 2020 18: 05 New
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      This is more skill than luck. Young pilot!
      1. Livonetc 20 February 2020 18: 10 New
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        Pilots Molotsy.
        However, most likely the missile failed to hit the target.
        1. Voyager 20 February 2020 23: 15 New
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          How do you know that here is more likely? You were there?
      2. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 18: 41 New
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        Quote: DMB 75
        This is more skill than luck. Young pilot!

        the navigator is a hammer, he is more “looking out the window” and at “light bulbs”. drinks
      3. Separ 20 February 2020 19: 39 New
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        On the Su-24 it’s probably hard to move away from MANPADS ... in Afghanistan the MiG-23MLA left the “stinger”, but the overloads were wild .. and the Su-24 is heavier and the maneuverability is not the same ... although it may have used some of EW and rocket went wrong.
        1. Sapsan136 20 February 2020 20: 04 New
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          In Chechnya, the Su-24M from 1 MANPADS left without any problems ... Often there were enough heat traps released immediately in large numbers ... If a volley of several MANPADS is fired, the hope is only for the latest electronic warfare ...
          1. Grigory_45 20 February 2020 20: 40 New
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            Quote: Sapsan136
            In Chechnya, the Su-24M from 1 MANPADS left without any particular problems

            depending on which MANPADS, which operator, which pilots, terrain, and a lot of all sorts of factors ... right up to luck.
            It is not easy for the 24th to dodge a rocket, maneuverability isn’t so hot, and thrust-weight ratio is also not.
            1. Sapsan136 20 February 2020 20: 42 New
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              Yes, there were all sorts of things, from the Soviet Arrows, to the Stingers and Bulpap ... Help to the barmaley went through Georgia ...
    2. Sky strike fighter 20 February 2020 18: 08 New
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      It is not a matter of luck, but the height of the use of aviation.
      It is reported that Russian planes were able to escape from shelling from MANPADS made by militants. The anti-ballistic missile maneuver was carried out by the Su-24 VKS of Russia with the firing of an aircraft at an altitude of ~ 5000 m.

      Su-35 fighters flew from the Khmeimim air base, which provide cover for the airborne attack aircraft.

      http://in24.org/world/38678
    3. Eugene-Eugene 20 February 2020 18: 24 New
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      Luckily, the Hephaestus guys had
      1. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 18: 40 New
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        Quote: Eugene-Eugene
        Luckily, the Hephaestus guys had

        this is unnecessary in the comments
        1. Runoway 20 February 2020 19: 15 New
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          This is nothing superfluous for the Russian Federation, they can send it in bast shoes: both bombers worked without fighter cover and how many turntables without the vaunted “president S” were shot down from MANPADS, and mi-28s with all childhood diseases, including shot down Tu-22m3 in Georgia, yes Many things
  • Thrifty 20 February 2020 18: 01 New
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    From other sources, the grach rocket was launched not by militants, but directly from the position of the Turkish army! The Turks did not make conclusions, after the downing of our plane, now they will not be so easily dispelled. Almost the Sultan will call in the United States, Trump will tell him, I sympathize, but this is your internal affair, for the Russians do not storm Constantinople, so hang on there. ..And they will also send him to NATO again - to reconcile with Russia, until the stream of corpses of the Turkish military became a river, and the military themselves have not thrown him off the throne. ..
    1. Vasyan1971 20 February 2020 18: 09 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      From other sources, a grach rocket was launched

      The Rook is the Su-25. And the rest, of course - yes.
      1. RideMaster 20 February 2020 19: 31 New
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        Su 25 is truly our best attack aircraft (s)
        )))
    2. Piramidon 20 February 2020 18: 53 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      From other sources ...

      More specifically, of which others?
      1. Thrifty 20 February 2020 19: 08 New
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        Stepan hi I got a news feed, they wrote cunningly "news from our sources of information" and further, that the rocket was launched from the position of the army of the Turks. And, most importantly, most of their news, which I read, was then confirmed by other media. !
        1. Thrifty 20 February 2020 19: 18 New
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          Stepan, this information has already been confirmed, there is a video from our drone! Turks fired on our plane! !!!
          1. Piramidon 20 February 2020 19: 55 New
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            I'll wait for something more official. As always, the news in the process of launching and promotion is overgrown with all sorts of "sources close to almost the Lord, who wished to remain anonymous"
  • master 52 20 February 2020 18: 02 New
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    Well, I think our expect something, take care of yourself guys
    1. Grits 20 February 2020 18: 16 New
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      Quote: 52 master
      Well, I think our expected something

      Expect is one thing. And preparing for the expected is another. Something I did not listen to, recently infa slipped about the strengthening of our group in Syria. And it is clearly not small against what the Turks can quickly build up.
      1. master 52 20 February 2020 18: 20 New
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        Our Syrians will not be able to fight, only help
        1. Grits 20 February 2020 18: 23 New
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          Quote: 52 master
          Our Syrians will not be able to fight, only help

          It is clear that we cannot be greater Syrians than the Syrians themselves. But without intervening for them under the pretext that we did not sign up for war in Turkey, we instantly lose face. And then no one in the world will see a strong player in Russia. This will be Putin’s “sunset of glory." What will he choose?
          1. master 52 20 February 2020 18: 31 New
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            Well, not so long ago, a Turkish column was uncovered when it went very eagerly to the wrong place. Well, personally, my opinion is clearly not a war with Turkey, but as a maximum the Ossetian scenario of peace enforcement, but this is extremely unlikely
            1. fiberboard 20 February 2020 18: 45 New
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              Turkey is not Georgia, and NATO will help.
              1. Dude 20 February 2020 19: 14 New
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                Quote: fiberboard
                Turkey is not Georgia, and NATO will help.

                #Americans? wink
              2. Nikolai Grek 20 February 2020 22: 00 New
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                Quote: fiberboard
                Turkey is not Georgia

                what same monkeys !!! laughing
                Quote: fiberboard
                and NATO will help.

                if only a coup d'etat to arrange !! wink lol
  • Olegater 20 February 2020 18: 06 New
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    Roll out these animals in the desert with the Turks. Maybe then the farther will understand that the answer for everything will come and save, as the last time he would not. And only the jackal understands the power. Including in Ankara. Yes, and for the fallen soldiers should be even !!!!!

    Warriors take care of yourself and military luck !!!!
    1. Runoway 20 February 2020 18: 27 New
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      What to roll out? One Hmeimim? Russia is far away, and Turkey is close
      1. RideMaster 20 February 2020 19: 33 New
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        A man is already there with an ax, right now he’ll roll everyone, and you ask him such nonsense, distract him from the feat.
      2. Sapsan136 20 February 2020 20: 09 New
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        Even the old Iskanders reach the Turkish coast, and it’s time to pay the bills for the murders of Russian soldiers!
    2. protoss 20 February 2020 18: 28 New
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      there is no desert, although what difference does it make to you. the main thing is more exclamation points
    3. Klingon 20 February 2020 18: 39 New
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      told the truth! Quapla!
  • Lamata 20 February 2020 18: 07 New
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    We are waiting for our reaction. Let's see what Faberge you yourself know who.
    1. Okolotochny 20 February 2020 18: 17 New
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      Waiting for you to give? Or do you immediately go to the Commander-in-Chief, pull out a saber and chop the basurman?
      1. Lamata 20 February 2020 18: 18 New
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        Why are you reacting so nervously)))) Roll brandy, sharpen your saber, shake out the dusty uniform.
        1. Svarog51 20 February 2020 20: 27 New
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          There will be problems with neighbors - will you decide or will you call a local?
          The first is fraught with consequences, the second - by law.
          P.S. And his uniform has not even become dusty. Envy in silence. This is to me - the old envy, but he is at work.
      2. Krasnodar 20 February 2020 18: 35 New
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        Quote: Okolotochny
        Waiting for you to give? Or do you immediately go to the Commander-in-Chief, pull out a saber and chop the basurman?

        Greetings! hi
        I don’t understand such people either - they want war, not understanding what it is
        1. Aerodrome 20 February 2020 18: 47 New
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          Quote: Krasnodar
          Greetings!
          I don’t understand such people either - they want war, not understanding what it is
          Reply
          Quote
          A complaint

          I don’t understand at all when on a resource where opinions need to be exchanged, characters with guns from guns appear ... and shoot ... and shoot ...
        2. Gardamir 20 February 2020 19: 22 New
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          want war
          Why is war necessary? Our Minister Gromyko “fought” no worse than other marshals. Or re-read (revise) “TASS is authorized to declare ...”. Without shots, but with a victory.
          1. Lamata 20 February 2020 20: 28 New
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            And such a thing as the Cold War existed, the war is the same, but without military operations.
        3. Lamata 20 February 2020 19: 49 New
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          Dear, I don’t want a war. But I don’t want to wipe my legs.
          1. Svarog51 20 February 2020 20: 36 New
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            Igor hi There are no options, either we respect each other humanly, or the ideological war. Little came to us from the side, there we ourselves will add. What is the use of this?
            1. Lamata 20 February 2020 21: 16 New
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              And I didn’t be rude to anyone))) and I do not specifically hunt for minus. And I do not call my opinion about my opinion and for war.
        4. Okolotochny 21 February 2020 12: 34 New
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          Albert, Helo (further as in the joke himself ...))), but populists, they are used to pushing slogans only. And to sit down and think - not, not them. How is Krasnodar worth it?
          1. Krasnodar 21 February 2020 13: 46 New
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            Quote: Okolotochny
            Albert, Helo (further as in the joke himself ...))), but populists, they are used to pushing slogans only. And to sit down and think - not, not them. How is Krasnodar worth it?

            Good afternoon! Yes, where to get to Krasnodar))
            I am not a fan of the Soviet Union, but about the war the ideology was correct - this is, first of all, great human grief, sacrifice, deprivation. Now there is a lot of bravado and some people, unfortunately, are underway.
      3. Lamata 20 February 2020 22: 28 New
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        Kill up the wall, freak.
        1. Okolotochny 21 February 2020 12: 35 New
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          Kill up the wall, freak.

          And such "comments" are put off by the "former employee of the National Security Committee of the Republic of Kazakhstan." Congratulations, Mr. Lie.
    2. Paranoid50 20 February 2020 20: 38 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      Let's see what Faberge

      Here is another one that struck the bottom ... And yes, perverts are not favored here.
      1. Lamata 20 February 2020 21: 18 New
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        What perversion do not prompt?
        1. Paranoid50 21 February 2020 12: 41 New
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          Quote: Lamata
          What is the perversion

          In indefatigable public erotic fantasies.
          Quote: Lamata
          Judging by your nickname, it’s bad with your head.

          So I don’t hide - there is no help, however, but I work in this direction. yes hi
      2. Lamata 20 February 2020 22: 30 New
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        Judging by your nickname, it’s bad with your head.
        1. Svarog51 21 February 2020 05: 12 New
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          Judging by the epaulettes, you offended many. Sometimes a word is stronger than a bullet does harm.
          1. Lamata 21 February 2020 06: 29 New
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            Dear Svarog, only this comment has entered the acute phase))) Well, these citizens did not like it, but the epaulettes? so here all sorts of lovers are still prospering to minus just to minus, and all sorts of sluggish bots are enough.
            1. Svarog51 21 February 2020 06: 53 New
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              In vain you think so. Many on the site for a very long time, chevrons-year-olds show this. And bots on the site are tracked in a timely manner. Old-timers on the site - people are very different, but get along and respect each other's opinions. Passions, of course, boil, but within the normal range.
              1. Lamata 21 February 2020 07: 06 New
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                from 2015 to zaregin on the site, so I know who respects anyone here. remember the torquemadists? and they were laid out here by name. last year. Last year I read carefully, there was so much rubbish, about Ukraine. By the way, dear Svarog, you have also come across a lot.
                1. Svarog51 21 February 2020 07: 13 New
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                  So look carefully at the list, because then I was banned for a year. I'm on that list too.
                2. Sling cutter 25 February 2020 13: 49 New
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                  Quote: Lamata
                  so I know who respects anyone here. remember the torquemadists?

                  Duc it is, in person!)))))
                  1. Okolotochny 26 February 2020 12: 53 New
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                    Bread cutter !!!! What people! Let’s tell more tales how you served in Afghanistan, received the parcels, as you two put the whole of Abkhazia into the pose of a beaver. Does it seem boring in the bath?
              2. Lamata 21 February 2020 07: 07 New
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                And the fact that I did a few yesterday, well, did not speak out beautifully, I apologize, could not resist hi Blood stagnated from the seat of the house.
                1. Svarog51 21 February 2020 07: 17 New
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                  You just did not offend me in any way. In our dialogue, you behaved flawlessly. No complaints on my part. I will say more - I even tried to somewhat level the decline in your rating, but alas, I did not have enough strength, and this is punishable.
                  1. Lamata 21 February 2020 07: 20 New
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                    I apologized to those who overly emotionally answered. I don’t remember the list. Bo left the site then. But I experienced a frank minus.
                    1. Svarog51 21 February 2020 07: 29 New
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                      They are unlikely to read this, since your message is addressed to me. Usually, they re-enter the article like you and I to continue the conversation.
                      I also became indifferent to the rating - I was “ill” so to speak. I like the site because I found many friends here from all over Russia and even abroad.
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                      2. Sling cutter 25 February 2020 17: 34 New
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                        Quote: Svarog51
                        I also became indifferent to the rating - I was “ill” so to speak.

                        Yeah, "ill", funny laughing
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                      4. Svarog51 25 February 2020 19: 46 New
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                        Personally, Igor to me as a person is pretty. He had the guts to apologize for the fervor. I will support him. But here you are - sorry. You're not capable of that. And at all, pouring feces is welcome. You attribute to the Order all who are against your fabrications. Typical pan holder. When do we wash a medal for Service to Ukraine?
                      5. Svarog51 25 February 2020 19: 54 New
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                        It’s time to pay attention to you a long time ago, you also collected the “Mighty Handful”. And against Russia and against the site. The order was burned out for uprooting such people. And now ... the weeds are riotous. Here let the moderators judge us. I am ready to make their decision.
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    3. Okolotochny 21 February 2020 12: 36 New
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      Either he struck, or he vomited))). My respect to the Black Devils!
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  • Retvizan 8 20 February 2020 18: 11 New
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    So all the same, the Sultan decided that he was the king of the situation and climbed into the razhon.
    Well, we really are not so strong in Syria, but did Erdogan only calculate his losses, including economic, if he fully drilled into Syria?
    God bless our wars! And help the Syrians!
  • Dmitry Potapov 20 February 2020 18: 12 New
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    I always remember the phrase said by Stalin (not me) pointing to the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits on the map: “Everywhere is good with us, here it is bad!”
    1. Sapsan136 20 February 2020 20: 12 New
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      The BSF has always had a joke on this subject - What will happen if Turkey closes the straits for us? - We will deepen and expand them! ... Even 16 missiles of the Volcano of an old cruiser Moscow are already capable of carrying a nuclear warhead at a distance of up to 1000 km ...
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      Well, yes, he changed his shoes into autocrats, but once the autocracy itself destroyed it, if the Communists had not morally decomposed the army, then there would have been straits, and along with Constantinople - as part of Russia. And even after the victory of the Reds in civilian life, there could well have been no Turkey, and there would have been no, if the USSR did not help Turkey in their struggle against the Greeks.
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  • Aleksandr21 20 February 2020 18: 15 New
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    Wow scared, a black bar with the news, right under the sections. I already read this news on other sites ... what can I say, it’s good that everything worked out. Good luck to our children and the Syrians in the reflection of Turkish aggression.
    1. Tuzik 20 February 2020 18: 22 New
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      Also did not understand this black stripe. Why is she?
      1. donavi49 20 February 2020 18: 26 New
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        What bounced. Well, the problem as a whole needs to be solved. The Turks also have Rapira and Hoki. They can start to beat them. Moreover, the Turkish Defense Ministry accused the SAR Air Force:
        "The culprit of doom two Turkish military personnel with an air strike in the Syrian province of Idlib are the Syrian Air Force. This was stated in the administration of the President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan, reports TASS. "

        Well, who will figure out whose Su-24 the SAR Air Force or VKS? And in general, in the heat of battle, if there is something more serious than MANPADS on the spot, they will use it.

        On the NATO side, the Patriots requested support "from the regime’s aviation forces."
        1. Tuzik 20 February 2020 19: 03 New
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          What bounced.

          In this case, a green or other color than black, the strip had to be done!
        2. Lamata 20 February 2020 20: 26 New
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          And why would the Syrian not declare that any military formations not of the SAR are terrorist and are subject to destruction.
      2. Prahlad 20 February 2020 18: 26 New
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        Warcryer
      3. 2 Level Advisor 20 February 2020 18: 41 New
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        I experienced the same emotions .. If only I thought that this mourning news has always been, on black .. Not good! Glory to our God is in order!
    2. Paranoid50 20 February 2020 20: 40 New
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      Quote: Aleksandr21
      black bar with news

      It means important news, as marked with "lightning". yes
  • impostor 20 February 2020 18: 15 New
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    With the onset of darkness there will be a thermobaric fire show, and tomorrow spectacular vidos will be laid out
  • alex aircraft 20 February 2020 18: 19 New
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    Now again there will be screams about a stab in the back? Is the height of idiocy-to be friends with the eternal enemy of Russia !!
    1. mirexes 20 February 2020 18: 56 New
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      and in what place is friendship going?
      1. tech3030 20 February 2020 19: 08 New
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        Hucksters are friends with everyone who can give money.
  • Whalebone 20 February 2020 18: 28 New
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    Turkey has never been an ally of the Russian Federation, and never will be. Moreover, the Sultan is very annoyed by everyone who jokes in his underbelly. He deliberately goes to aggravation, for he considers himself the master.
    We are waiting for the C400 delivered to the Turks to start working on the Russian Aerospace Forces? Or will we sell them the Su-57 first?
    1. Voltsky 20 February 2020 18: 47 New
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      S-300-350-400 are not able to work on airplanes of the Russian Federation (a friend-or-foe system is integrated according to customer requests in the territory of the Russian Federation)
      One of the reasons for the delivery of the S-300 to Syria was precisely the fact that they would not allow a repeat of the incident with the Jewish undertakers.
      1. Grigory_45 20 February 2020 20: 48 New
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        Quote: Voletsky
        S-300-350-400 are not able to work on airplanes of the Russian Federation

        yah! Why would it all be? Murzilka re-read?)

        Quote: Voletsky
        friend-or-foe system is integrated according to customer requests in the Russian Federation

        first-party interrogator, put the Turks themselves. Secondly, let it be known to you, the interrogator is disconnected in order to be able to fire when it malfunctions, or consciously on a friendly board (for example, a plane is hijacked or hijacked)

        Have you ever heard of cases of aircraft being shot down by SAM and MANPADS missiles of the same country as a downed aircraft ???
        Shot down Soviet and Russian aircraft, shot down American - from Soviet and American weapons, respectively
        1. Voltsky 20 February 2020 20: 57 New
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          Quote: Gregory_45

          yah! Why would it all be? Murzilka re-read?)
          first-party interrogator, put the Turks themselves. Secondly, let it be known to you, the interrogator is disconnected in order to be able to fire when it malfunctions, or consciously on a friendly board (for example, a plane is hijacked or hijacked)

          Have you ever heard of cases of aircraft being shot down by SAM and MANPADS missiles of the same country as a downed aircraft ???
          Shot down Soviet and Russian aircraft, shot down American - from Soviet and American weapons, respectively


          As far as I remember, the Russian Federation refused to the Turks that they themselves would install a system of their own, and therefore this was done by Russian experts; if in your murzilka another info - then correct me.

          Yes, a friend or foe is disconnected; But is it turned off in the export version for Turkey!?

          The Russian Federation sells weapons without bookmarks that would protect the Russian Federation themselves from attacking them with their own weapons ?! Do you consider yourself a fool or your government ?! I do not want to offend anyone, because the world is full of deer and you are probably right, but I find your approach pessimistic and fatal.
          1. Grigory_45 20 February 2020 21: 25 New
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            Quote: Voletsky
            I find your approach pessimistic-fatal

            or impartial.
            Two regimental sets of S-400, designed for Turkey, differ from anti-aircraft systems, which are in service with the Russian Air Force. But this does not mean that the export modification, in terms of its basic characteristics, is worse than systems bearing combat duty in Russia. It is related to customer preferences and some specific technical issues. So, for example, in the Turkish S-400 air defense system, the 96L6E2 radar is used instead of the 96L6 / 96L6-1, which are operated by the Russian Aerospace Forces. Some elements of the complex are not self-propelled, but towed, which is associated with customer requirements for cost reduction and for the use of their own tractors. In addition, a number of sources say that there are differences in computer systems and in topographic location equipment. In addition, anti-aircraft systems delivered to Turkey deprived of full-time Russian combat control equipment and determination of state affiliation.

            NATO’s integrated air defense system uses the Mk state recognition system. XII, having "military" and "civilian" regimes. At the Turkish control centers of the S-400 air defense system, the "civilian" standard STANAG 4193 is used, which is compatible with the ICAO standard (civilian secondary radar of international air traffic control), but at the same time, there is the possibility of embedding "military" imitation-resistant components, which will require the installation of NATO equipment with unique cryptographic keys. It is known that work in this direction is currently being conducted by the Turkish electronic company Aselsan.
          2. Bongo 21 February 2020 09: 39 New
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            Quote: Voletsky
            As far as I remember, the Russian Federation refused to the Turks that they themselves would install a system of their own, and therefore this was done by Russian experts; if in your murzilka another info - then correct me.

            Did you read this?
            Supply of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey: possible consequences.
            https://topwar.ru/166415-postavka-rossijskih-zrs-s-400-v-turciju-i-vozmozhnye-posledstvija-jetogo-shaga.html
            1. Voltsky 21 February 2020 11: 31 New
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              With difficulty, but mastered, laconicism is not included in the list of your talents, or at least add humor so that it is easier to read, but informative of course :)
              1. Where does the info about f-35 come from ?!
              2. Do you know? or do you think this is the case? Simple - these are two big differences.
              3. I read a number of similar articles, and you propose to trust you? :)
              4. The analytics is beautiful, burn more - here I am serious.
              5. One thing you forgot to mention, the downing of a Russian aircraft with your own weapons will be the end of Putin’s career, if everything is as you think.
              1. Bongo 21 February 2020 11: 38 New
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                Quote: Voletsky
                With difficulty, but mastered, laconicism is not included in the list of your talents, or at least add humor so that it is easier to read, but informative of course :)

                If you want to laugh, read Damantseva.
                Quote: Voletsky
                Where does the info about f-35 come from ?!

                What is not clear to you about the F-35A?
                Quote: Voletsky
                You know ? or do you think this is the case? Simple - these are two big differences.

                What exactly do you disagree with?
                Quote: Voletsky
                I read a number of similar articles, and you propose to trust you?

                Regarding faith - this is in the Russian Orthodox Church.
                Quote: Voletsky
                The analytics is beautiful, burn more - here I am serious

                Thanks! But I do not need anyone's advice! hi
                1. Voltsky 21 February 2020 11: 50 New
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                  Damantseva read a couple of times, not funny;
                  Where did I say that I disagree on something? The question was you know or think that everything is exactly the same, Analytics is.
                  And I did not give you advice either.
                  I don’t understand where the information about the F-35 flyby comes from.
                  Quote: Bongo
                  At the same time, among the aircraft participating in the S-400 flyby near Ankara, miraculously, F-35A fighters suddenly appeared, which are not included in the Turkish Air Force.
                  1. Bongo 21 February 2020 12: 00 New
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                    Quote: Voletsky
                    I read Damantseva a couple of times, not funny

                    Someone like ... I sometimes can not help laughing.
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    The question was you know or think that everything is exactly the same, Analytics is.

                    Everything set forth in this publication is partly taken from publicly available materials (mostly English), partly based on personal knowledge.
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    And I did not give you advice either.

                    The term “burn” is usually not used in a constructive dialogue.
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    I don’t understand where the information about the F-35 flyby comes from.

                    There were no overflights of the F-35A, and indeed it could not be. However, shortly before my publication, VO published an article by Damantsev, where he, in complete surrealism, stated the opposite.
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    you forgot to mention one more thing, the downing of a Russian plane with your own weapon will be the end of Putin’s career, if everything is as you think.

                    Will not... no Kiselyov and Solovyov will explain to the people that Putin is not to blame.
                    1. Voltsky 21 February 2020 12: 22 New
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                      Quote: Bongo
                      Someone like ... I sometimes can not help laughing.

                      By and large, you write in one area, and therefore you can better see where he built the moons there. If he wrote about politics or economics, I might as well have laughed.

                      Quote: Bongo
                      The term “burn” in a constructive dialogue usually not used.


                      Well, since there weren’t any F-35 flights, and how do you say that they couldn’t be, why did you write this in your article, and now refer to Monsieur Damantsev? It just casts some shadow on what you wrote, that is, the fact that you are referring to an unverified Old, which you yourself do not believe. But given your profile as an author of articles mainly about air defense, it’s hard for me to add anything because the disparate baggage of knowledge in this matter.

                      Kiselyov, on the other hand, seems to be engaged in seedlings in retirement, I won’t say anything about Solovyov, he’s a fit like Kamikaze Di, a very unpleasant passenger. They will not say anything here, or rather whatever they say - it will not help: But of course, their heads will fall, not Putin at all, but other people who are guilty must be found and punished of course
                      1. Bongo 21 February 2020 12: 34 New
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                        Quote: Voletsky
                        Well, since there weren’t any F-35 flights, and how do you say that they couldn’t be, why did you write this in your article, and now refer to Monsieur Damantsev?

                        Perhaps you missed it, but after VO wrote that the Turkish F-400A participated in the S-35 flyby, there was a “hat thrower” in the comments, and I just couldn't help it. By the way, none of the "fooled" about the F-35A, has not commented on my publication.
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        It just casts some shadow on what you wrote, that is, the fact that you are referring to an unverified Old, which you yourself do not believe.

                        You may not have noticed, but regarding the possibility of flying S-400 Turkish F-35A I wrote in a critical tone.
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        But given your profile as an author of articles mainly about air defense, it’s hard for me to add anything because the disparate baggage of knowledge in this matter.

                        Nevertheless, a great deal is publicly available, and comrade Gregory_45 is for the most part right. Are you curious how the export S-300PMU differs from our S-300PS combatant?
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        Kiselyov, on the other hand, seems to be engaged in seedlings in retirement, I won’t say anything about Solovyov, he’s a fit like Kamikaze Di, a very unpleasant passenger.

                        Frankly, I’m not looking at zombies for many years. And these characters cause me to gag.
                      2. Voltsky 21 February 2020 13: 00 New
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                        Critical tone in the text ?! Is it in the style of "Don't yell at me in capital letters?" Let’s do it without forgery, I don’t like clinging to words if they don’t pay me for it. Otherwise, we will come to the point where you are not you, and the hut is not yours and in general you are a victim of circumstances :)

                        And yes, maybe I missed what you had with the F-35 and the hat gun, because I only speak here about Kipesh in the Middle East and sometimes even read, but only stories :)

                        Thank you, but no, I don’t have much interest in reading the tones of the text about the differences between the S-300 modifications, but if you write briefly I will be grateful

                        About the zombies, are you talking about the TV ?! It’s just that the Internet only allows you to choose the garbage that will be placed in your head, but it does not mean that there is less garbage :)
                        And yes, professional propagandists should evoke such feelings, the more critical a person thinks, the more difficult it is for him to perceive outright nonsense.
                      3. Bongo 21 February 2020 13: 04 New
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                        Quote: Voletsky
                        Critical tone in the text ?! Is it in the style of "Don't yell at me in capital letters?" Let’s do it without forgery, I don’t like clinging to words if they don’t pay me for it. Otherwise, we will come to the point where you are not you, and the hut is not yours and in general you are a victim of circumstances :)

                        And yes, maybe I missed what you had with the F-35 and the hat gun, because I only speak here about Kipesh in the Middle East and sometimes even read, but only stories :)

                        Article "Supply of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey: possible consequences." It was not on its own, but as part of a cycle dedicated to Turkish air defense. Perhaps you should have read the previous publications?
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        about the differences between the modifications of the S-300, but if you write briefly I will be grateful

                        In PM
                      4. Voltsky 21 February 2020 13: 10 New
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                        Are you kidding me ?! You gave a link, I read it, and now you say that it was a series of articles and you suggest that I get acquainted with all this so that I can make sure that you are not using forgeries? :)

                        Thank you all, I went, there was a fascinating polemic, I emphasized a lot for myself, but you need to tear your claws until you start insisting on familiarizing yourself with all your publications.

                        and in PM yes, discard please so kindly, with pleasure I will get acquainted :)
                      5. Bongo 21 February 2020 13: 19 New
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                        Quote: Voletsky
                        Are you kidding me ?! You gave a link, I read it, and now you say that it was a series of articles and you suggest that I get acquainted with all this so that I can make sure that you are not using forgeries?

                        You are the first to accuse me of forgery smile In general, the conversation initially went about the S-400 delivered to Turkey, you started talking about the F-35A.
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        but you have to tear the claws until you started to insist on familiarizing yourself with all your publications.

                        Given the fact that today there are exactly 500 of them in VO, I dare not insist. But the Turkish air defense cycle, I’m sure you can handle it. At the end of each publication there are active links to previous ones. hi
  • lapwings 20 February 2020 18: 33 New
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    Perhaps the Turks fired a rocket.
  • shoroh 20 February 2020 18: 35 New
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    Tomorrow everything will calm down. They will call Erdogan, he will show that he is a cool pepper and everything will stabilize again.
  • swzero 20 February 2020 18: 43 New
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    But why should Su24 fly at such heights at which it is within reach of the MANPADS?
    1. Thrifty 20 February 2020 18: 58 New
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      swzero - not all of his weapons are precision-guarded, especially since the Turks are in the positions of the Syrian army, they need jewelry work in order not to hit the Syrians.
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      But why should Su24 fly at such heights at which it is within reach of the MANPADS?

      Well, that’s how it is intended to work, including from a low height.
    3. Grigory_45 20 February 2020 20: 49 New
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      Quote: swzero
      But why should Su24 fly at such heights at which it is within reach of the MANPADS?

      for precision striking. Vestimo, they fly with “ordinary iron”, and, I won’t be surprised, with NAR blocks. And that means low heights.
  • Voltsky 20 February 2020 18: 44 New
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    1. I would not recommend that the Russian speakers go to rest in Turkey in the near future in order to avoid getting to know the local radical-minded punks :)
    2. there will be nothing between Turkey and Russia (the forces of the parties are different and the potential benefits and risks are simply not comparable)
  • cniza 20 February 2020 19: 03 New
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    According to recent reports, Russia called on Ankara to stop supporting gangs in Idlib province and to refuse to transfer arms to them.


    The Sultan bit a bit or continues to puff out his cheeks.
  • Sarkazm 20 February 2020 19: 05 New
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    I liked the picture with the sofa on the crawler, etc. Sorry, not strong in such battles, it is more interesting what to discuss in other areas.
    Not special and obviously I even open the gate in the General Staff not rank lol BUT ...

    Turkey is VERY confident in itself now setting an ultimatum on conditionally Assad in fact to us and once again urging us to abandon the continuation of the offensive or, more precisely, support Assad and pro-Iranian groups. Erdogan held consultations at all levels, received approval and enlisted the support of most of the forces in the country to launch a full-scale military operation in Syria. At the same time, such a “trifle” is noteworthy, in response to the bubbling of the star and striped about Turkey’s support as an ally and NATO partner, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu calmly declared his American counterpart, they say they are interested in the support of the States in general as a partner and on equal terms , and not the momentary and essentially to the peak of Russia. It is clear that the Turks had consultations with the Amers, but the fact that they are really ready and confident in themselves is noteworthy.

    But once again, the Turks to the last call us, or rather our masters, to negotiate. Our gentlemen, who have not been comrades for a long time, still hope to catch up and put the Turks in front of a fait accompli and agree in the future from new positions, and believe that this is possible. The Turks made it clear that this did not suit them completely, that there was a clear deadline, Erdogan clearly said that the Assad’s troops should withdraw by the end of February, otherwise the Turkish army would abandon the pro-Assad forces and not the fact that they were to the previous line of contact, but as if not to Damascus. The local patrons and our gentlemen raise blah blahs about the neo-Ottoman habits and claims of Erdogan. I don’t know, again, not an expert, but Erdogan personally doesn’t make an impression of an overstretched upstart, he was a rather tough pragmatist. The United States did that, and our gentlemen are clearly not star-striped, there were opportunities, there was an answer for the Su-24 and the Turks made conclusions and prepared for similar scenarios in the future.

    In short, IMHO, Erdogan does not bluff, and our gentlemen in vain hope that he will give a ride on the scenario of staging the Turks before the fact. The Turks are ready in full and be a war, if the Turks and our gentlemen do not agree. Who will be the war is also a question, either, having found out that our naive scenario didn’t pass, they will give “Assad’s army” to itself in conflict with the Turkish army and give the people a command to sit out at the bases until the Turks grind the Irnians and the Syrian guest, and then again run to negotiate, or we’ll get in and it’s not clear what we hope for - objectively, Khmeimim with his planes and air defense forces is weak, against a normal army with strong air forces it’s a nonsense, which means that if you escalate, it means entering into a full-fledged conflict with the NATO country. In the latter case, theoretically, what the "strategists" dream of, they can besiege the Turks with several blows of tactical nuclear weapons at the same time showing their teeth and iron eggs to the Europeans, and the threat of a nuclear strike simply paralyzes them, they simply quickly moved away from the Cold War and forgot, BUT will come next? ... Can we create a precedent when nuclear powers begin to use low power without unleashing a global war, it’s not a fact that it’s good for us, but we can actually begin the Third World War and end the existence of this ball, or pears etyaschego orbit around a yellow dwarf star, which on any sooner or later 3,14sets. I will repeat one thing clearly, until in any case such a confident impression is created - the Turks do not bluff. So we stock up on popcorn, God forbid, coffins and we'll see.
    1. Smoke 20 February 2020 19: 29 New
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      So ours do not bluff either .... war means war, we Russians are the lords of this planet
      1. Sarkazm 20 February 2020 23: 03 New
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        Um, I won’t tell you about the planet, but I’m already straining it at home ... the Far East and Siberia are empty, and whoever is clearly not lords there, I think about Moskvobad it’s not worth raising a discussion.
        In fact, an endangered nation, the only thing that does not allow it to die and disappear completely is Russian culture, but its carriers are increasingly Russified representatives of other indigenous peoples of the country and not only.
        So there are NO reasons and grounds for such high-profile statements. In the Russian family, for the most part, there are one, at most two children, and there should be 5, taking into account the current demographic situation, but only how to feed them, when the lords in the country are completely different.
        I’ll make a reservation, it’s not about nationalism and the other shaved-headed haze, I’m not Russian myself, BUT ... The disappearance, reduction, moral or cultural degradation of the titular nation will lead to the disappearance of the country. The last census was obviously pulled, in any case, in my case, pointing out Russians, Tatars' neighbors, albeit Russified, but not baptized at all, etc., and what to do next? ... Moreover, to arrange a war and even drive in the land of a dozen other thousand young men and all, write is gone.
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          a dozen will not do, hundreds or shame, and also hundreds of thousands
    2. RideMaster 20 February 2020 19: 38 New
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      What nonsense you write, by golly. Need to write - calibrate all the Turks! Death to Erdogan! Air force forward !!!
    3. Zaits 20 February 2020 23: 00 New
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      Quote: Sarkazm
      Turkey is VERY confident in itself now setting an ultimatum on conditionally Assad upon us ...
      and secured the support of most of the forces in the country ...


      Did he also enlist the support of the Kurds?

      Now Turkey can be sure of only one thing - they won’t come to bring Erdogan straight tomorrow. Such a political space is cleaned up qualitatively. But not yet evening. Turkey, as there was a bunch of internal and external problems, remained. This bunch was just driven into the far corner, but you still have to rake it.

      Quote: Sarkazm
      But once again, the Turks to the last call us, or rather our masters, to negotiate.


      Agree on the interests of the Turks to the detriment of their own?

      Quote: Sarkazm
      The Turks made it clear that this did not suit them completely, that there was a clear deadline, Erdogan clearly said that by the end of February the Assad’s troops should withdraw, otherwise ...


      The Turks have long made it clear to them that if they don’t stop pumping their fighters with weapons, this will not suit us at all. Regardless of the timing and situations. And Erdogan was clearly told that the "Assad troops" are on their territory, unlike the Turkish troops. It seems that the Turks did not understand, the militants stirred with the active participation of the Turkish troops, Assad answered, our VKS were reminded to the Turks ...

      Quote: Sarkazm
      was the answer for the Su-24 and the Turks made conclusions


      This is not yet an answer. They got off with tomatoes and a slight startle. And the debt is not paid off.
      According to the current situation, it is very likely that they did not draw any conclusions. Do you seriously think that we have no other arguments besides tomato?

      Quote: Sarkazm
      In short, IMHO, Erdogan does not bluff


      Of course it’s not bluffing. He simply decided to plug another hole, trying to understand whether they would give it or not. After all, the Americans allowed the number with the Syrian Kurds, while obviously at the expense of their own interests.

      Quote: Sarkazm
      objectively Khmeimim with his planes and air defense forces is weak ...
      besiege the Turks with several strikes of tactical nuclear weapons ...
      BUT what will happen next?


      Yes Yes. Or tomatoes, or a vigorous loaf, but in general we are weak and miserable ...
      In fact, this world is much more diverse. And in terms of answers too.
      And politics is a terribly muddy thing, and sometimes it works better than tactical nuclear weapons.
  • Radikal 20 February 2020 19: 19 New
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    Quote: snifer
    I understand you write from the trench?
    ... on the boot of a murdered friend .... lol
  • opuonmed 20 February 2020 19: 30 New
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    Turkey to help the barmaley it is necessary to crush the Russian Federation aviation I hope Turkey will not do it if it does then it is necessary to respond strongly so that whoever entered Syria doesn’t leave it
    1. Prahlad 20 February 2020 19: 32 New
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      Cucumbers will also be banned for tomatoes. This is the most realistic answer that Russia can afford.
      1. opuonmed 20 February 2020 19: 33 New
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        so we’ll see what happens I hope this doesn’t reach
      2. Igor Aviator 20 February 2020 19: 52 New
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        Quote: Prahlad
        This is the most realistic answer that Russia can afford.

        Don’t worry about Russia! Better worry about your Faberge!
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        Personally, I have already stopped buying Turkish products and this is forever ... I have not bought Georgian products for many years ... and I'm not the only one ..
      4. Paranoid50 20 February 2020 20: 45 New
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        Quote: Prahlad
        This is the most real answer.

        Some kind of dumb program - apparently, they have not updated for a long time, the owner completely launched it. recourse
  • Dimon71 20 February 2020 19: 45 New
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    Those who control the sky control Idlib. And on earth, Assad has waved quite a bit. He has hurricanes and tornadoes. One volley and 60 hectares in the dust. The sun. Points and so on. By the way, the Turks can send the fourth generation F16 to the sky. visible on both Vegas and Baks, not to mention the c300 and armor. Yes and Assad’s army has been fighting for 8 years and learned something. And the Turks didn’t fight either!
  • Sergei 23 20 February 2020 19: 46 New
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    Again we put the wrong lad !!! His skin wasn’t worth it, and they have so-so tomatoes.
    1. Igor Aviator 20 February 2020 20: 39 New
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      Quote: Sergey 23
      Again we put the wrong lad!

      I’ll tell you a secret - we didn’t bet on him! It’s just a “game of contradictions,” (checks and balances). The game is "long-term", and the result in the foreseeable future may be (and sometimes should be) clearly not visible. This is where GDP is very strong. Since the "lad" is a player from the enemy camp - (Yankees + NATO), some tensions and problems are very possible. All of this is natural and predictable, as is Erdogan’s current “backshot”. Sooner or later, such a situation MUST arise for quite objective reasons - the geopolitical interests of the Russian Federation and Turkey cannot coincide. What is more important is how our President uses this situation, and what measures will be taken to pacify the raging Nazis in the Ottoman camp. In any case, I understand that our guys are very at risk. On the other hand, this is their job - to defend the homeland. I really hope that Erdogan will not raise rates and aggravate the situation before the conflict - I do not think that it will be beneficial to him.
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    Tomatoes rose across the throat, Tourette)))
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  • andrew42 20 February 2020 20: 32 New
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    One thing is clear - the Turks are morally prepared for a direct clash with the Russian contingent. Therefore, our need to be prepared for the most effective retaliatory strike, all that is, really without snot. The second opportunity will not be defended. If you slow down and move backward, everything will roll towards Damascus, all the successes of several years will be lost for Assad and Russia, and there will be much more victims during the retreat. The fight has already begun, and you can not turn away from the enemy - and then they stammer. We didn’t choose it, the Turks chose it — to fight along with the barmales. Barmalei will advance, the Turks will cover them with fire and special forces. Sadly, we have not enough strength in Syria, but as Mowgli said, "Now we can only fight."
    1. Sarkazm 20 February 2020 23: 11 New
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      Question FOR WHICH ARE YOU READY TO SACRIFY BY NON ONE THOUSAND OF YOUR Fellow Citizens, Your Brother, Son, Yourself In The End? For the sake of what ideals, ideas, what will it bring to the Motherland, your family, relatives, relatives, what will bring the country in general, what political and, accordingly, economic dividends?
      Everything is clear about security, they poured all the frostbitten into it, then they subsequently destroyed one or another "Caucasian" and "Central Asian" battalion, it is understandable that they did not completely take everyone to the root, but for the most part. What else do we need in Syria and what are you ready for victims for? You have an oil refinery there, will you get what from gas (what remains of the stolen less than the cost of the war), Z-A-Ch-E-M? Or is it so lively that there is simply no reason to live and have nothing to cherish and nothing to lose? ...
      1. Nastia makarova 21 February 2020 08: 26 New
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        if you retreat then other countries will attack us !!!! the same Ukraine will decide to war with the Donbas, Georgia will climb to the south again. Ostetia and Abkhazia
  • Uncle Izya 20 February 2020 20: 37 New
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    Yes, this is probably not the first time they are trying to shoot down, this topic rarely pops up in the media
  • andrew42 20 February 2020 20: 38 New
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    I’ve only been interested in the last 2 years: do our citizens have brains, who traveled and are going to rest in Turkey, and even some with their children. The way the Turks know how to cut, it is only blindly deaf I have not heard.
  • kiril1246 20 February 2020 21: 21 New
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    Go ahead, give Tel Aviv !!!!
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      Eilat - TA beach, but not a fig not tourist)).
  • Voltsky 20 February 2020 21: 34 New
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    Quote: Gregory_45
    deprived of full-time Russian combat control equipment and determination of state affiliation.
    [/ b].

    Damn ... :) And what is written here ?! I just read that the export version for Turkey does not install a friend-or-foe system of the Russian Federation. At least the basics of law taught you at the university ?! For now I wanted to speak out about you, or conclude a contract with you, so that you would draw up a contract, because the nonsense in the document in case of problems is in favor of the one who did not draw up the contract.

    "It is not a priori Russian because it is a Turkish system; but Russian experts installed it, and installed it as it should, and not as the Turks want."
  • Blue fox 20 February 2020 21: 49 New
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    My opinion. The Kurds, by chance, suddenly should have a lot of ATGMs and MANPADS, not Russian, but, say, Chinese, French, etc. production and modern communications.
    1. God save the king 20 February 2020 22: 07 New
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      The Kurds are still a weather vane, if today they are pumped with weapons against the Turks, then tomorrow they can start using it against our allies.
    2. Nastia makarova 21 February 2020 08: 26 New
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      Kurds and so pumped up with American weapons
  • Goral 20 February 2020 21: 50 New
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    Oh, how cute and beautiful! The Turks (Russians), in their "just" anger for the death of their "peacekeepers", are forcing the world to "unbelted" Syrians (Georgians) trying to free their homeland from obscure gangs (separatist enclaves of Ossetians and Abkhazians in Georgia).

    The analogies are simply from under Xerox, but if in the case of Georgia Russia acted as Turkey and the barmalei (Ossetians, Abkhazians) were ours, then in Syria we are clean and tidy ?!
    1. God save the king 20 February 2020 22: 05 New
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      Well, it’s normal, now we’ll put the Turks in a stall, then we will agree with the Kurds and Syria will be ours.
      There is a better option, if the sultan starts to bull, then Russia will simply be obliged to return Constantinople along with the straits to their native harbor.
      1. Goral 20 February 2020 22: 52 New
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        Yeah, that is, it’s normal when in Georgia, under the guise of alleged peacemaking, we take the local barbarians to protect and chop off the territory, and in Syria we stand up for the central government and by all means for the unity and indivisibility of the country .... This is called hypocrisy and duplicity not "normal."
        1. God save the king 20 February 2020 23: 04 New
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          This is called hypocrisy and duplicity, not "normal."
          That's right, so what? We had very good teachers in the person of Western "partners." To live with wolves, howl like a wolf.
          Not so long ago, in our country, it was also customary to firmly believe in a free market, an honest international court, equality of rights, but the reality turned out to be much simpler and harsher, so you have to act in your own interests.
          1. Goral 21 February 2020 18: 11 New
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            Howl like a wolf? This is who rushing all the fibers to the west :-))) in the 90s this damned West saved your country from hunger and financial turmoil. This West also helped you to collect nuclear weapons from all the corners of the former USSR (to the trouble of Ukraine) :-)) And on you - an ungrateful wolf was raised. Thank you for even talking to you. They will conquer the wolf - then you certainly will not seem sweet. Slowly harnessed ...
        2. anykin 21 February 2020 00: 08 New
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          Quote: Goral
          we take local barbarians to protect and chop off the territory, and in Syria we stand up for the defense of the central government

          In both cases, we help those who were attacked. As a result, the attackers shout, And why.
          1. Goral 21 February 2020 18: 15 New
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            Yeah, in both cases, who was attacked. You are the ones who attacked Georgia. Georgia did not encroach on a meter of Russian territory. But under your wings in the center and in the west of Georgia you created “Idlib” viper (Abkhaz-Ossetian barmalei), raised and cherished them, and when by definition they should have a kirdyk, they shattered everything and broke into a neighbor’s house. All the neighbors and allies were lost by wiseacres - they still wonder why they are all alone in their wolf wailing
            1. anykin 21 February 2020 23: 16 New
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              You welcomed the Khattabs. Got Game
        3. Nikolai Grek 21 February 2020 00: 10 New
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          Quote: Goral
          This is called hypocrisy and duplicity, not "normal."

          this is called "doing what we consider necessary and at our discretion" !!! wink when Georgia and other sub-states will grow up to such opportunities, let them go to the checkout for the next ....... !!! wassat laughing
          PS ... Georgia, let him say thanks, that they saved the state after their war crimes in 2008 !!! negative
          1. Goral 21 February 2020 18: 22 New
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            That's right, each wedge has its own scrap, each nail has its own hammer :-))) Georgia, like other "under-states", will sooner or later end up under a reliable umbrella, and your over-state along the entire perimeter of borders will have a mildly unfriendly environment. Already almost like that. You still have to disentangle that shit that your bald man made in foreign and domestic politics. Understates are stocked with popcorn :-)))

            Ps. well done, compared Russia with Georgia :-)) this is mega, archie, to defeat the 4 millionth country from above. There is nothing more to be proud of :-)))
            1. Nikolai Grek 22 February 2020 00: 50 New
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              Quote: Goral
              each scrap has its own scrap, each hammer has its own hammer :-)))

              pralno ... when you find, then come up !!! wink and not the fact that then Russia will be so supportive of you !!! wassat
              Quote: Goral
              around the perimeter of the borders there will be, to put it mildly, an unfriendly environment

              live, beggars, at our expense, also bark !!! lol
              Quote: Goral
              Understates are stocked with popcorn :-)))

              you there, so that while the stock is being made, the territories have not fallen off of you !!! laughing
              Quote: Goral
              Ps. well done, compared Russia with Georgia :-)) this is mega, archie, to defeat the 4 millionth country from above. There is nothing more to be proud of :-)))

              Well, you are proud that you practically defeated Russia in 2008 !! wassat
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    Zum 20 February 2020 22: 07 New
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    First you need to "pile" on the Turks ........ and then understand, say ..... oh and we did not think that already in Turkey .....
  • nakhtigalsif 20 February 2020 22: 21 New
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    As I understand it, this is your workplace

    Rothkiv04, you really are a little dumb. From the very first comment. Think over everything you stuck with your finger, and if you were not understood correctly, explain what you wanted to express exactly with your comments ...
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    for 20 February 2020 22: 28 New
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    For the sake of ambition to sell gas and weapons, they got what they got.
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    Yes, the guys were lucky that they hadn’t yet been blundered by the oncoming one, it’s very wrong that drones are not used, moreover, in large numbers, and when interacting with airplanes.
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    Well, as an option, use the Aglosaxon scenario, just ruin Turkey from the inside, and extract your buns. Simpler and cheaper. There who just does not profit from them ...
  • Alexey G 20 February 2020 23: 19 New
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    The second time to bring down our SU 24 will not work! They have a protection system on them now!
    1. huntsman650 21 February 2020 00: 05 New
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      Antivirus?)
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  • STORM 12 21 February 2020 01: 15 New
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    Quote: Piramidon
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    It's time calibrate the barmalei, and at the same time the Turks

    How easy it is to scatter slogans and calls, sitting on the couch, collecting likes. Well, you take it, go and do what you think is "high time", "as much as possible", "how long" ... To knock on the clave - not to sit in the trench.

    What about you? local Lenin or something
  • Zaits 21 February 2020 01: 44 New
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    Quote: Goral
    Yeah, that is, it’s normal when in Georgia, under the guise of alleged peacemaking, we take the local barbarians to protect and chop off the territory, and in Syria we stand up for the central government and by all means for the unity and indivisibility of the country .... This is called hypocrisy and duplicity not "normal."


    Ahh, so you don’t know what appeared before, the slogan "Georgia - for Georgians" or, in your definition, "Separa-Barmalei"? And by the way, did these "Separa-Barmalei" go to Tbilisi to kill Georgians, or vice versa?
    Something I did not hear about the fighting of the Separs in Tbilisi or its environs.

    But in Syria, it was the pro-Turkish militants, along with the IS and all evil spirits, who went to kill Assad and all who did not like it. Who did not like the Kurds, who are Christians, and who are all in a row. Received in wort and still can not calm down. And then the Turkish uncle promised to personally fit in ...
  • Lamata 21 February 2020 07: 21 New
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    Citizens, to whom I have overly sharply and emotionally answered, I apologize.
  • Nikolay73 21 February 2020 09: 03 New
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    Glad for our guys!
  • ser56 21 February 2020 17: 39 New
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    I wonder if the EW / laser system worked or was it a pure maneuver?
  • Volga073 22 February 2020 04: 07 New
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    Something again, Russia again mumbles ..
    Uncle Vova is talking about peace, and Russian soldiers are already being killed.