The Netherlands Prosecutor's Office commented on the publication of MH17

On the platform for independent reporters, Bonanza Media released Dutch military intelligence data on the deployment of the Buk air defense system at the crash site of a Malaysian airline Boeing 777, flying in Amsterdam - Kuala Lumpur in July 2014 and shot down by an unknown missile. The Netherlands Public Prosecutor's Office and the Joint Investigation Team have responded to this publication.

Today, the publication told about its attitude to new circumstances. RBC in the press service of the Dutch prosecutor’s office in response to a request from Russian journalists.

They said that the prosecutor’s office will give all assessments and comments regarding new evidence in the case or revealed circumstances only in the courtroom.

At the same time, the Western press, referring to the Netherlands prosecutor’s office, notes that the department "considers the publication of new information as pressure on the work of the body."

Recall that a little earlier on Dutch intelligence data was published on Bonanza Media that in the area of ​​the Boeing crash at the time of the disaster there were no Buk air defense systems for which the MH17 would be accessible.

The Dutch secret services claim that, flying over the Donbass, a passenger plane could not be shot down by the Buk complex, as the liner's route went outside the range of such equipment.

Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov believes that this information is yet another proof of Russia's non-involvement in the crash and loss of life.

Comments

[Thrall]

Once again, Dutch Dutchmen froze ...

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

They understand that whoever takes something to court will do it under oath. And this is not the same as sketching through the media, there is responsibility. Most (99 percent) of "irrefutable evidence" from the media will be eliminated by itself, from unwillingness to be substituted under the article on perjury and falsification of evidence.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

Most (99 percent) of "irrefutable evidence" from the media will be eliminated by itself, from unwillingness to be substituted under the article on falsification of evidence.

it would be very nice to eat like that, but there are precedents for making decisions based on unsubstantiated statements with the formulations "apparently", "most likely", "possibly" ...

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

The court, as is customary, will decide on the principle of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt
Where is "reasonable" - the court itself will determine.

[Spektr]

Yes, who will believe them? Only biased bad guys and overseas assistant directors. And the directors already know that the cat ate meat.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

It doesn’t matter who will believe. It is important who recognizes the court decision and further legal consequences in the form of sanctions in case of refusal of the perpetrator to execute the decision.

[Spektr]

Do not make me laugh. Sanctions are already turning into a joke (tinsel) - pillow war. There are not sanctions, but direct commands to their vassals, while sanctions are just an external wrapper: people undo everything.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

That's great, we laugh so we laugh.

[Spektr]

I didn’t put you a minus. And, in general, I do not indulge in minuses. I consider a minus without comment - this is the mentality of the scumbags. The latter is not for you, Vyacheslav.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

I don’t know what this comment is for, but I didn’t give you any cons either. In general, I rarely use them, my browser is buggy from them, I have to reload the page. Just in case, put a plus sign.

[Spektr]

The latter does not apply to you. I just did not manage to add the last sentence to your answer. Sorry.

[Avior]

Not certainly in that way
As for us, we are accustomed to the wording used by journalists - “irrefutable evidence”, only a literary image, in jurisprudence, the principle is different “beyond any reasonable doubt”.
And of course, evidence is needed anyway.

[Aerodrome]

Moreover, in the Western press,

- what a true typo ...

[Abbot]

Netherlands intelligence that there was not a single Buk air defense system in the area of ​​the Boeing’s fall at the time of the disaster, for which the MH17 would be accessible

They do not specify what kind of super-duper intelligence is in the Netherlands and where does it get such data, does it? James Bond stoned. The whole JIT case is based on data on the Buk air defense missile system. Wreckage of a rocket, wreckage of an aircraft, striking elements in the bodies of passengers ... That's it! Now, we must understand, they are leaving the topic when it became clear whose rocket it was.

[Amateur]

They do not specify what kind of super-duper intelligence in the Netherlands is and where it got such data

In the red-light district, screwy men talk a lot.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Abbot

Wreckage of a rocket, wreckage of an aircraft, striking elements in the bodies of passengers ...

The main miracle is that the Dutch do not have a single striking element. True, they presented some two pieces of iron, but they turned out to be a roofing iron.
Russia gave the Dutch data on the shape of the striking elements of Bukov over the years. But did not give samples, nor chemical composition. Therefore, they talk about beeches, but without damaging elements.

[Avior]

Are these elements missing?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

There should be hundreds, and not rusty. These could bring from Georgia, Syria, Iraq. Collected for 5 years. And in the first two years of the investigation, nothing was presented.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Another vivid illustration that a certain category of people requires evidence, not because they are interested in evidence, but solely in the context of digging something, it does not matter what.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

Another vivid illustration that a certain category of people requires proof

Well, evidence downloaded from the Internet in the form of Buk without rockets, cunning users quickly localized the place of shooting. So, Buk at the move was removed near Slavyansk - in the background was an advertising banner with the address of the car repair shop. The photo was cropped, the original was deleted - evidence remains. Beech loading on a trailer. The combination of forest belt and power line pushed the loading place 200 km west of the DPR / LPR. The high-voltage line was cleaned up, the evidence remained. One girl discovered 5 fake accounts on her behalf, where she corresponded with a bouncer who shot down a Boeing. She sent complaints, deleted accounts - screenshots of correspondence were included in the evidence base.

[Mimoprohodil]

[quote] This is not cunning users, but a briefing by the Russian Defense Ministry. No address is visible there.

[Avior]

20 minutes before this post, they weren’t at all in your post.

The main miracle is that the Dutch do not have a single striking element.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

I was sitting on Lente.ru when the first "striking elements" were presented. 2 years after the disaster. And these elements were described as 5 mm parallelepipeds on the larger side. Neither before nor after, the finds of striking elements were reported. Then the Russian Ministry of Defense gave a description of the striking elements of missiles of different years. And now, 5 years later, 5 pieces were presented. What were these three years, from the presentation of the first certificates, to this exhibition? And there must be hundreds in the first week of the investigation. With acts and video filming of the extraction of each fragment.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Abbot

The whole JIT business is based on data on the Buk air defense missile system. Wreckage of a rocket, wreckage of an aircraft, striking elements in the bodies of passengers ... That's it! Now, we must understand, they are leaving the topic when it became clear whose rocket it was.

Unfortunately, tracking a missile’s path by serial numbers on its wreckage from the manufacturer until a certain time can not say anything about its movements just before launch, nor about who carried out the launch.

[Abbot]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Unfortunately, tracking a missile’s path by serial numbers on its wreckage from the manufacturer until a certain time can not say anything about its movements just before launch, nor about who carried out the launch.

I must clarify. The investigation, the entire evidence base is based on the version that the Malaysian Boeing was shot down by the Buk missile defense system, do you understand? There were briefings, comments in the Western media, reports from Bellingcat "experts", reports of the international JIT commission. Literally everything within five and a half years. And from the Russian side - statements and briefings of the Ministry of Defense, statements and experiments of the Almaz-Antey concern. And now a stuffing is being done that, according to some intelligence data (?) In the area of ​​the disaster, there were no "beeches" in the reach zone at all. And this whole circus called "international investigation" is multiplied by zero. And already, by the way, the prosecutor's office of the Netherlands is bringing charges against specific people.

[O. Bender]

According to information from the manufacturer’s archive, based on the data recorded in the form on the product as a whole and on each node in particular, it is possible to track the movement of the rocket in this case with a high degree of probability. This was done. The final point where the rocket lived is warehouses in vain and not it is important in which corner she was lying. It is important that the place where she was taken from is the APU warehouse.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: O. Bender

According to information from the manufacturer’s archive, based on the data recorded in the form on the product as a whole and on each node in particular, it is possible to track the movement of the rocket in this case with a high degree of probability. This was done. The final point where the rocket lived is warehouses in vain and not it is important in which corner she was lying. It is important that the place where she was taken from is the APU warehouse.

Alexander, so I am about the same. The path has been tracked to the high frequency of Ukraine, but no further. Whether the BP was stolen from the later "accidentally" burned down warehouse, whether it was delivered to a military unit, Ukraine modestly does not disclose this. Even if the missile, along with the launcher, was repulsed by the militias, Ukraine is interested in declaring this.
Doesn't declare. => The specific missile did not fall into the hands of the militia.

[Siberian54]

There were no "striking elements" in the bodies of the passenger .. Here is the mathematics of the investigation .. the rocket engine had to be quietly removed .. Higher mathematics .. And now the air defense systems were not in the way of the liner .. And the State Department, after hysteria, that they had shots of a shot suddenly shut up and nervously smokes on the sidelines ..

[Piramidon]

Quote: Aerodrome

Moreover, in the Western press,

- what a true typo ...

They press on some organ

consider the publication of new information as pressure on the work of the body

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Thrall

Once again, Dutch Dutchmen froze ...

Their business is small: to destroy all the evidence and stretch the business for a dozen years, so that people forget about their relatives.
And they are not pulling in order to fence off Ukraine, or denigrate Russia. Their owner is completely different.

[svp67]

Quote: Thrall

Once again, Dutch Dutchmen froze ...

So no ... and honestly I do not understand Peskov’s optimism

Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov believes that this information is yet another proof of Russia's non-involvement in the crash and loss of life.

On the other hand, this information plays into the hands of those who blame Russia. It turns out that it was impossible to shoot down the plane from the indicated locations of the Buk air defense missile system, either by Russia or by Ukraine, but once it was shot down with a Buk missile, it means that there was a Buk that was not in the indicated areas and positions, and it could have been transferred Russian Buk militia.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Yesterday I threw cons for such an assumption!))

[svp67]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Yesterday I threw cons for such an assumption!))

And you immediately changed your mind?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Of course not!) But the number of stubborn is still impressive))

[svp67]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Of course not!)

And this is good.

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

But the number of stubborn is still impressive))

As my mother used to say: "If everyone goes to drown themselves, you won't go with them ..." Everyone should have their own personal opinion, but herdness, she did not lead to good

[phair]

But RBC could not answer otherwise. Worse only echoes of matzah (telaviva ear).

[orionvitt]

Let's see the show in court. Let's see how they will "sculpt the hunchback."

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

About Kay Google. Download the results of the investigation of the disaster MH17 !!!
Found 15 thousand options.

[sergo1914]

That Buk turned on stealth mode. What is not the version?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: sergo1914

That Buk turned on stealth mode

And the US has mastered invisibility best! So everywhere they write generally.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

And the US has mastered invisibility best!

but there are already 5 years the troops of the Russian Federation that no one can photograph! all the same, the arrows will be transferred to Russia ..

[Azazelo]

Publication is pressure on an organ .... as said.
I don’t care the truth, I don’t care about justice - just to shamefully not look.

[Fantazer911]

Dutch law is like a drawbar, where the United States turns!

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Fantazer911

Dutch law is like a drawbar, where the United States turns!

how to smoke, so it happened ....

[Fantazer911]

Smoked a couple with the Dutch

[BARKAS]

Once again, the prosecutor's office or a court in the Netherlands simply stupidly ignores this kind of evidence.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

They do not ignore him. They are building it. At the time of the disaster, the Americans had 12 satellites of the designated purpose watching the Donbass. And 18 - unidentified.
But I stand on my version - they shot at Putin flying into Rostov-on-Don. There were, of course, little chances. But they "identified" by the tricolor. And they fired without hesitation. And not Ukrainians. Otherwise, the Dutch wouldn’t rip their ass like that.

[Lamata]

Wang, that the court will not take this into account, the prerequisite already exists - pressure on the investigation

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Lamata

the premise is already there - pressure on the investigation

but then such evidence as "the absence of beeches on the plane's route" will have to be abandoned.

[God save the king]

In your opinion, the court should take into account the fake stuffing of one-day newspapers?
Undoubtedly, the Basmanny Court would have done so, but rotting Europeans have slightly different ideas about justice.

[Sewer krainiy]

In your opinion, the court should take into account the fake stuffing of one-day newspapers?
Undoubtedly, the Basmanny Court would have done so, but rotting Europeans have slightly different ideas about justice.

And in your opinion, the court should take into account the devil knows what stuffing, photos, etc., the so-called evidence from the Internet? A one-day newspaper has at least an address, an editor, not an online fake. You can file a lawsuit against her for a lie. But some courts, let’s not point a finger, gathered evidence from the Internet ... go find witnesses

[God save the king]

the court must take into account the devil knows what stuffing, photos, etc., the so-called evidence from the Internet?

The court will ensure that the parties to the prosecution and the defense provide it. And it’s the job of the prosecutor’s office to seek evidence everywhere, even in a landfill, even on the Internet.

You can sue her for a lie

This is the beauty of stuffing, there is usually no one to sue for libel, so you can write any nonsense under the guise of "secret informants".

[Lamata]

You yourself contradict yourself, then fake stuffing, then look in the trash.

[God save the king]

Where are the contradictions?
Should the prosecutor's office examine for validity all available information? - Of course it should.
Is it possible to consider reliable information from one-day newspapers allegedly obtained from "anonymous secret sources"? - I don’t think so.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: God save the Tsar

In your opinion, the court should take into account the fake stuffing of one-day newspapers?

Are you talking about investigators who download evidence from the Internet? Who didn’t bother to interrogate either the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, did not find the distributor of the Kharkov Knot, with his name and place of residence, or the pilot Voloshin. They are only interested in names from the Internet. Russian and DNR.

[paul3390]

If he were a Kirzach, they would put pressure on the corresponding organ ... That would be pressure .. And so - the truth is they see the eyes piercing, they can’t eat.

[Alexey RA]

They said that the prosecutor’s office will give all assessments and comments regarding new evidence in the case or revealed circumstances only in the courtroom.

At the same time, the Western press, referring to the Dutch prosecutor's office, notes that the department "considers the publication of new information as pressure on the work of the body."

Yep .. the culprit has already been appointed, and no facts will change our decision.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alexey RA

Yeah .. the guilty party has already been appointed, and no facts will change our decision.

Most likely, this will be guided by. And only they have a humane and fair court.

[Lelek]

... Bonanza Media published Dutch intelligence that there was not a single Buk air defense system in the area of ​​the Boeing’s fall at the time of the disaster, for which the MH17 would be accessible.

Famously applied. There (in the intelligence data) it was also said that during the tragedy with the "Boeing" there were 2 Ukrainian military aircraft in the air. So the "Marlezon ballet" is being promoted with a new score.

[Strashila]

Everything that does not fit into their interpretation of events, in their opinion, does not correspond to reality, well, or pressure on the investigation, which actually did not exist.

[ender]

not mine, but in detail on the topic

So what do we have today? Yes, that's it. Another round of history under the motto "Yes, we are ..!". Or a short guide to information warfare.
The first news in the top of "Yandex": "The media in the Netherlands announced that there are no Buk complexes in the area of ​​the MH17 crash."
Let's see what's there. All our press as if on command (how?) Writes about it. The top of "Yandex" is not formed by hand, but automatically. A huge number of Runet users read the headlines of 5 news on the main page, and nothing else at all on the topic.
The headline, if anything, also no one writes by hand. The most suitable, according to the algorithm, to the situation is automatically selected. In our case, it was Izvestia. Then others got out. This happens dynamically.
We look further at the source of information. It was TASS today at 0.31. Why at such a weird time? I do not know for sure. But I suspect that just in order that by morning, when everyone wakes up, the news was already in the top. Now let's see who TASS refers to?
And he refers to the platform "for independent journalists Bonanza Media". That is, we immediately think that they are some kind of independent Dutch journalists, but these are for the truth, unlike any Belingcat. At the same time, TASS shyly does not provide a link to this platform. But he gives interviews with its founders, and this is the Dutch journalist Max van der Werff and suddenly the Russian journalist Yana Yerlashova (by the way, she lives in Moscow).
I have nothing to be ashamed of. I'll give you a link (https://mailchi.mp/69054d39ee63/bonanzamedia-newsletter-2?e=bdec9af591&fbclid=IwAR1piv1MRCgHQmmA8RUQcEwT_GNEISX1exGbNrw3_CZRmfe04k given to this one) on this one. The page was started at the beginning of February. This publication is the second on it.
There are no other participants, except for these two, in the group of "independent journalists".
Kommersant, which also reposted this leak, saved me time and wrote that Yana had previously worked on the Russia Today TV channel. And her partner, as it turned out, is Dutch only in name and origin. And his conspiracy heart and brain has long been in Donbass. Such are the "Dutch media".
Further, a short search showed that Yana has a long history associated with the downed MH17. She was described in detail six months ago by aviation expert Vadim Lukashevich in connection with a documentary about the tragedy, which this couple then took off for money that fell literally from the sky.
Well, finally, look at the heroine’s Facebook. And that is exactly what the profiles of independent indifferent journalists should look like, who put their lives to fight the lying West!
https://www.facebook.com/kroshkapushka
Baby gun, your mother!

Update. At first, the news was spread through the Kremlin's telegram channels and Twitter accounts. For example, yesterday at 23.21 Lakhtin @xaerostar posted news about the Netherlands, referring to the "Uruguayan intelligence" tweet. https://trollitota.d3.ru/nesoglasovannost–metodichek–1929920/ which was earlier than the news appeared in the media.

[Evil543]

Stop galloping, 30 silver coins are lost

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Evil543

Stop galloping, 30 silver coins are lost

It will be good to jump, another 30 will add.

[Ggc1]

Not the fact that urine is good for the eyes

[Siberian54]

put a minus - I saw the news on the pro-Ukrainian "frame" earlier than it appeared on "Yandex"

[Dmitry Potapov]

At the time of my youth there was an expression "Dutch starlet", obviously for a reason!

[alien]

Quote: orionvitt

Let's see the show in court. Let's see how they will "sculpt the hunchback."

“The most important question is why there is a delay in the start of the trial regarding the disaster of the Malaysian Boeing. The answer is simple: because Russia is ready for it, but its Western prosecutors are not.
There was only a demonstration of fakes, explicitly modeled or taken from social networks, unprofessional photo-toads and so on. All this, of course, played a certain role - public opinion was swayed, Russia was accused, sanctions were imposed ”

“And now you have to answer. There will be a court and evidence will be presented, lawyers and journalists will work. Therefore, Russia has nothing to worry about: among the many journalists from around the world there will be those who understand that discovering the truth is a chance for them. A chance to become famous, to make a sensation, to prove yourself as an objective reporter. And the usual pressure from the USA on the world media with a message, they say, there are only two opinions - ours and the wrong one, will not work anymore ”

Franz Klintsevich
https://news/2020/2/18/1024368.html

[New Year day]

Quote: Alien

Franz Klintsevich

[alien]

If you have something against Franz Klintsevich, it’s not on this thread. Here is the essence of the matter.

[New Year day]

Quote: Alien

If you have something against Franz Klintsevich, it’s not on this thread.

the source of trust does not cause

Quote: Alien

as a matter of fact.

a lot of PR

[alien]

The fact is that only by joining together can these issues be resolved, and if like fish, pike and cancer, then there will be no sense.

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: Alien

The fact is that only by joining together can these issues be resolved, and if like fish, pike and cancer, then there will be no sense.

Oh, I can't. This is how "American spies" scorched

[alien]

Nude, shoot on.

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: Alien

Nude, shoot on.

That's all, I can’t do it anymore.

[alien]

He reads books, he lives bored, doesn’t even ask for mercy, and I’ll tell you who is waiting for everyone ...

[cost]

Yes For such punctures, at least immediately withdraw and shoulder straps are removed. Now according to the rules of the genre alien (Arthur Kryzhanovsky) will translate arrows on Ukrainians, Israelis, or other Russian-speaking

[alien]

Quote: Rich

will translate arrows on Ukrainians, Israelis, or other Russian-speaking

Don't judge everyone by yourself "rich"Dmitry, on VO - you know better.

[Siberian54]

Do you want a non-ordinary party member to speak out negatively ??? Here it is: nude! Nude !!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alien

“The most important question is why there is a delay in the start of the trial regarding the disaster of the Malaysian Boeing. The answer is simple: because Russia is ready for it, but its Western prosecutors are not.

The delay is because it was necessary to pour more feces in five years, which could be presented in court as "undoubted evidence."

[alien]

Quote: tihonmarine

The delay is because it was necessary to pour more feces in five years, which could be presented in court as "undoubted evidence."

And will not be.

Ukraine did not provide radar data, there are no records of negotiations between Ukrainian military dispatchers, ammunition accounting books in Ukraine at the time of the disaster, reasons for the non-closure of airspace for civil aviation in the combat zone in southeastern Ukraine. And most importantly, no one has seen the satellite images that Washington has announced.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alien

Ukraine did not provide radar data, there are no records of negotiations of Ukrainian military dispatchers

Nobody will provide this, for the court it will be more important to prove the vile media, and on the basis of this they will make a decision that has long been known.

[alien]

Well, yes, the main thing is that sanctions have been introduced, but there, at least the grass does not grow.

[God save the king]

It is not difficult to understand what "Bonanza Media" is, you just need to go to their media resources and it will become quite obvious - this is another one-day newspaper "horns and hooves", specializing in stuffing on the subject of the downed MH17.
With the same success, all major Russian media could refer to the pensioner Maria Ivanovna, who shares "information from secret sources" on a bench in front of the entrance.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

They understand that anyone who takes anything to court will do so under oath.

They have already powdered the brains not only of their citizens, but also of us. Immediately there was a version about the SU-25 operating in that area, they even posted pictures from the satellite, then information appeared about the BUK of the Ukrainian Armed Forces operating in the Zaroshchensk area. Now again, the SU-25 is already with the "shot" pilot? Well, do not forget about one more - a detective from Germany, leading his investigation, who announced the publication of shocking data. So what can we wait?

[Avior]

Actually, everything that you wrote has nothing to do with the Dutch, they never had and do not have a version with the Su-25, the Investigative Committee had such an official version.
The Dutch, like Diamond - Antey, always adhered to the version of Buka.

[Sewer krainiy]

So wait?
Right, wait. Russia holds the joker up its sleeve, however, because of this, and the delay with the so-called investigation. Know apparently. My opinion. Therefore, let’s wait, let’s take a break.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mar. Tira

They were already dusting their brains not only with their citizens, but also with us. Immediately there was a version about the SU-25 operating in that area,

For this, for five years, brains were powdered to divert the investigation from this SU-25.

[purple]

Quote: God save the King

It is not difficult to understand what "Bonanza Media" is, you just need to go to their media resources and it will become quite obvious - this is another one-day newspaper "horns and hooves", specializing in stuffing on the subject of the downed MH17.
With the same success, all major Russian media could refer to the pensioner Maria Ivanovna, who shares "information from secret sources" on a bench in front of the entrance.

Well, and bellingcat, too, in principle, from the same opera ...

[God save the king]

Almost true, but at least they do not generate fakes by "secret sources", but only give their "expert assessment" of information from open access, we are doing about the same thing here in the comments.

[purple]

Quote: ender

not mine, but in detail on the topic

So what do we have today? Yes, that's it. Another round of history under the motto "Yes, we are ..!". Or a short guide to information warfare.
The first news in the top of "Yandex": "The media in the Netherlands announced that there are no Buk complexes in the area of ​​the MH17 crash."
Let's see what's there. All our press as if on command (how?) Writes about it. The top of "Yandex" is not formed by hand, but automatically. A huge number of Runet users read the headlines of 5 news on the main page, and nothing else at all on the topic.
The headline, if anything, also no one writes by hand. The most suitable, according to the algorithm, to the situation is automatically selected. In our case, it was Izvestia. Then others got out. This happens dynamically.
We look further at the source of information. It was TASS today at 0.31. Why at such a weird time? I do not know for sure. But I suspect that just in order that by morning, when everyone wakes up, the news was already in the top. Now let's see who TASS refers to?
And he refers to the platform "for independent journalists Bonanza Media". That is, we immediately think that they are some kind of independent Dutch journalists, but these are for the truth, unlike any Belingcat. At the same time, TASS shyly does not provide a link to this platform. But he gives interviews with its founders, and this is the Dutch journalist Max van der Werff and suddenly the Russian journalist Yana Yerlashova (by the way, she lives in Moscow).
I have nothing to be ashamed of. I'll give you a link (https://mailchi.mp/69054d39ee63/bonanzamedia-newsletter-2?e=bdec9af591&fbclid=IwAR1piv1MRCgHQmmA8RUQcEwT_GNEISX1exGbNrw3_CZRmfe04k given to this one) on this one. The page was started at the beginning of February. This publication is the second on it.
There are no other participants, except for these two, in the group of "independent journalists".
Kommersant, which also reposted this leak, saved me time and wrote that Yana had previously worked on the Russia Today TV channel. And her partner, as it turned out, is Dutch only in name and origin. And his conspiracy heart and brain has long been in Donbass. Such are the "Dutch media".
Further, a short search showed that Yana has a long history associated with the downed MH17. She was described in detail six months ago by aviation expert Vadim Lukashevich in connection with a documentary about the tragedy, which this couple then took off for money that fell literally from the sky.
Well, finally, look at the heroine’s Facebook. And that is exactly what the profiles of independent indifferent journalists should look like, who put their lives to fight the lying West!
https://www.facebook.com/kroshkapushka
Baby gun, your mother!

Update. At first, the news was spread through the Kremlin's telegram channels and Twitter accounts. For example, yesterday at 23.21 Lakhtin @xaerostar posted news about the Netherlands, referring to the "Uruguayan intelligence" tweet. https://trollitota.d3.ru/nesoglasovannost–metodichek–1929920/ which was earlier than the news appeared in the media.

so what? I don’t understand, Or lad from Ukraine?

[Aliken]

Now they will start digging for the financing of the portal, they will look for a "Russian trace"

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Six months ago, Max van der Verff made a joint movie with an ex-employee of RT about a downed Boeing. Sense to dig what lies on the surface?

[Avior]

Come on you. A portal with only two posts .....

[Operator]

Marijuana to help them.

[Prisoner]

The Dutch prosecutors have no choice but to declare all of their military intelligence agents of the Kremlin. The only way.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Captive

The Dutch prosecutors have no choice but to declare all of their military intelligence agents of the Kremlin.

Again, these Bashirov and Pavlov played a trick. It all starts with the words "The whole world knows ....". As in the temple, first for health, and then for peace.

[Lamata]

Hodor was released not in the blink of an eye that Yukos had sold, apparently there was some sort of political bargaining

[yaros]

I don't know who shot down there, but I guess, however, that at that time the most powerful reconnaissance satellite was flying over the area with an accuracy of minutes over the area, those who served in the corresponding troops know, and the Americans at the highest level confirmed the availability of images very high resolution (as always, they are very secret and will not be shown) and ours confirmed the presence of a satellite, at the first briefing of the Ministry of Defense (for those who are in the tank, they are specially tracked), and in orbit there are usually a couple of them at the same time, so I strongly doubt a simple coincidence of the coincidence of the fact of the presence of a satellite over the area where the dispatchers sent the plane, with an accuracy of minutes ...

[Thrifty]

What other organs are under pressure? There is no pressure, but you need to beat, on these very "organs", and their owners, so that they stop brazenly lying.

[businessv]

The Dutch secret services claim that, flying over the Donbass, a passenger plane could not be shot down by the Buk complex, as the liner's route went outside the range of such equipment.

It's just that the process will take place soon, so all these earlier applications are canceled, whatever one may say, and the judges do not want to be clowns! It is impossible to pass a verdict on the basis of "highlighted like", because then the verdict will be the same!

[Kerensky]

появились Dutch military intelligence on the deployment of the Buk air defense system at the crash site of a Boeing 777

What? !! Netherlands military intelligence had data on the location of anti-aircraft missile systems?
I demand to compare with the same maps of foreign intelligence about. Pitcairn, as well as intelligence of Monaco, Lishtenstein and the Vatican ....

[denplot]

At the trial everything will be as usual. They will literally accuse us, Russia, on the basis of evidence "which is available, but it is secret and we will not show it to you." Well, we will spit on them ..

[Pacifist with AK]

Pressure on organs, pressure on organs .... "If you want to chop off these organs !!!" (c)
Stoned Dutch prosecutors heaped up so many lies and policies that they won’t be able to launder! There’s only one way out - to lie and dodge to the end .....

[Ggc1]

The publication (https://mailchi.mp/69054d39ee63/bonanzamedia-newsletter-2?e=bdec9af591) on the Bonanza Media website states that a letter with data on the positions of all Buk complexes (both Russian and Ukrainian) was sent by Dutch military intelligence to the Dutch prosecutor’s office back in 2016. The publication also refers to the testimony of an unnamed witness, who stated that shortly before the crash, Boeing saw fighters in the sky.

Founder of Vopanza Media Yana Erlashova previously worked on the TV channel
RT (Russia Today).

These are the "sources" that spread such a deceitful formation:
- Journalist @RT_Com Yana Erlashova registers pseudo-media
"Wonanza Media" in the Netherlands.
- Vopanza Media publishes a fake about MH17.
- Dozens of Russian media refer to him.
- "This information confirms the correctness of Russia" - said the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov. In his words, the "new" data cast doubt on the "biased" position of the international investigative group, which accuses Russia of involvement in the ship's crash.

Who is this for?

[purple]

Quote: GGC1

The publication (https://mailchi.mp/69054d39ee63/bonanzamedia-newsletter-2?e=bdec9af591) on the Bonanza Media website states that a letter with data on the positions of all Buk complexes (both Russian and Ukrainian) was sent by Dutch military intelligence to the Dutch prosecutor’s office back in 2016. The publication also refers to the testimony of an unnamed witness, who stated that shortly before the crash, Boeing saw fighters in the sky.

Founder of Vopanza Media Yana Erlashova previously worked on the TV channel
RT (Russia Today).

These are the "sources" that spread such a deceitful formation:
- Journalist @RT_Com Yana Erlashova registers pseudo-media
"Wonanza Media" in the Netherlands.
- Vopanza Media publishes a fake about MH17.
- Dozens of Russian media refer to him.
- "This information confirms the correctness of Russia" - said the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov. In his words, the "new" data cast doubt on the "biased" position of the international investigative group, which accuses Russia of involvement in the ship's crash.

Who is this for?

Another ... well, finally write to the censor ...

[Vasya Seliverstov]

Quote: GGC1

Founder of Vopanza Media Yana Erlashova previously worked on the TV channel
RT (Russia Today).

These are the "sources" that spread such a deceitful formation:
- Journalist @RT_Com Yana Erlashova registers pseudo-media
"Wonanza Media" in the Netherlands.
- Vopanza Media publishes a fake about MH17.
- Dozens of Russian media refer to him.
Who is this for?

If this is fake and false information, why
Australian Federal Police Confirms Authenticity of Part of MH17 Investigation Documents Online

[purple]

Quote: God save the King

Where are the contradictions?
Should the prosecutor's office examine for validity all available information? - Of course it should.
Is it possible to consider reliable information from one-day newspapers allegedly obtained from "anonymous secret sources"? - I don’t think so.

And who do you think of Bellingkat? Credible source?

[God save the king]

And who do you think of Bellingkat? Credible source?

Bellingcat is not a source, it is just an agency distributing its divan analytics based on open data.

[purple]

Quote: GGC1

https://www.facebook.com/kroshkapushka

On people like you ... who believe in this nonsense
https://www.facebook.com/kroshkapushka
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https://trollitota.d3.ru/nesoglasovannost–metodichek–1929920/
also not working ... solid balls
Ukrainian hiberfisk in action

[Ggc1]

I did not give such links. You haven’t messed up anything, dear? Maybe you should wear glasses and read carefully?

[purple]

You need to wear glasses ... read the topic above where the legs grow .. the text is one to one, just repost and you can ... cyborgs

[Horon]

Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov believes that this information is yet another proof of Russia's non-involvement in the crash and loss of life.

It would be better to keep silent.

[Dikson]

Judging by the latest news, Dutch judges very well knock money out of Russia .. Here, compensation for a fallen Boeing will also be judged not frail ..

[Kuzmitsky]

These Dutchmen are such entertainers. Yes "Buk" it was, and Ukrainian. Even the missile itself was tracked - where it was produced, when and by what military unit it was received. Read, look, and everything will fall into place https://topcor.ru/9707-kievskoj-vlasti-pridetsja-otvechat-za-unichtozhennyj-malajzijskij-boing.html. So after all, this information is not classified, everyone knows everything. I don't know what else to investigate. It is high time to put handcuffs on the guilty, but it is unlikely that this will happen in our lifetime.

[Russian_man]

Now, I came up with a joke - the Gniderland prosecutor’s office ...))

[Vasya Seliverstov]

Quote: Aleksandr Kisler

How in Russia do fake lies?

If it's a fake and a lie, why
Australian Federal Police Confirms Authenticity of Part of MH17 Investigation Documents Online

[Alexey from Perm]

yeah, we ourselves are good. We declare that the plane was shot down by Ukrainian Su 25 with 100% certainty, then again with 100% certainty we are talking about the Ukrainian beech and the found part of the missile with the marking. Which version to believe then?)))

[tolmachiev51]

Apparently not everything is as smooth as it was at the beginning of the accusations, therefore, and similar stuffing. The desire to keep a good "face" in a bad game.

[g1washntwn]

The closer the date of the trial, the more fakes and the higher the activity of trollbots. Minus from any "Estonian centers for the fight against propaganda" fly only on the way. The same novoregs manage to get two buckets of reciprocal minuses for one topic. Robyats, save the excitement for your spam bots by sending phishing addresses.

[Vik ganz]

I already wrote that we must begin with the Prime Minister of the Netherlands. The whole team is bribed. Including the Prime Minister. Therefore, their commissions are not needed not by Russian experts, not by Malaysian experts. And the Netherlands prosecutor naturally supports this camarilla. Shame on the Netherlands.

[Vyacheslav34]

Anasha, what ana, how good it is - the prosecutor’s bosses are pulling ...

[iouris]

Do not think that the Netherlands prosecutor’s office will back down: the provocation with MH-17 wasn’t for that. This is war. The only way out of the war is the recognition of one of the parties to the defeat and the payment of indemnities. 50 billion is just the beginning. You can, of course, offer an exchange. Nuclear strikes.