Turkey continues to transfer troops and armored vehicles to Idlib

Despite assurances of a desire to end the conflict in Idlib province by peaceful means, Turkey is actively transferring personnel, weapons and military equipment to Syrian territory. This was told by a military-diplomatic source.

Despite statements about the desire for diplomatic ways to resolve the conflict in Idlib, Ankara is actively transferring personnel, weapons and military equipment to the de-escalation zone

- leads RIA News source words.

Of particular concern is the fact that a significant part of the military equipment is being transferred to militants from pro-Turkish groups, including the “Jabhat al-Nusra” banned in Russia. According to the source, currently there are more than 70 deescalation zones in Idlib tanks, about 200 armored fighting vehicles and 80 field artillery guns deployed across the border by Turkey. Which part of them belongs to the militants is not known exactly.

In addition, it became known that, thanks to Turkish deliveries, American-made man-portable air defense systems got to the militants, which causes "deep concern". Whatever is said, but the Syrian Air Force has already lost two helicopters over militant-controlled territory. It is possible that they were shot down precisely by these MANPADS.

And where they will come up in the future, nobody in Ankara, and even less so in Washington, now knows

- said the source.

The source also said that Turkey is supplying the uniform of its army with militants of the Khayyat Tahrir al-Sham group banned in Russia and other pro-Turkish military units that, under the guise of the Turkish military, are attacking Syrian government forces.

Of particular concern are cases where Ankara has supplied militants in the Idlib de-escalation zone with the uniform of Turkish armed forces. (...) under the guise of Turkish troops, in military operations against government troops (...)

- said the source.

Comments

[Terenin]

Of particular concern is the fact that a significant part of military equipment is transferred to militants from pro-Turkish groups, including the Jabhat al-Nusra banned in Russia.

How will you take it back? Do you think the militants will drive up to the Turkish checkpoint and give the keys?

[bang]

Is she really surrendering? Or is there a Turkish crew inside the vehicle?

Of particular concern are cases where Ankara has supplied militants in the Idlib de-escalation zone with the uniform of Turkish armed forces. (...) under the guise of Turkish troops, in military operations against government troops (...)
This is the move. Barmaleyev is not sorry and will always be an occasion to shout about the dead Turkish soldiers and bomb in response.

[Paul Siebert]

Is she really surrendering? Or is there a Turkish crew inside the vehicle?

But this, really - a question of questions!
It’s one thing to get an armored car - every man can do it, most of them were driving.
What if it's a tank? Not everyone has a tractor or a bulldozer at the entrance ...
Get me out - put me in the tower, the effect is zero, I’ll have to learn.
Is there time? Around - war ...
I have at least an engineering education ... And the idlibian goats?
So, it seems to me that this technique is with a Turkish gasket between the seat and levers ...

[Sergey39]

Quote: Terenin

How will you take it back?

CAA come in handy!

[Karaul73]

Nobody will take it. Yes, and they will not give. Weapons will be used to the full.

[Guards turn]

Russian Su-34s destroyed three Turkish MLRS, which tried to launch a large-scale strike at the Khmeimim airbase. The MLRS with the Turkish military tried to strike at the Khmeimim airbase under the guise of militants.

The night before, Turkish troops, using Turkish-made MLRS that arrived in Syria a few days ago, tried to launch a missile attack on the Russian military base Khmeimim, hiding behind the legend that these were terrorist actions. When deployed directly in the Al-Kabin area, Russian fighters delivered an unexpected blow, turning the Turkish MLRS into a pile of scrap metal and thereby foiling an attack on the Russian air force base.
According to some reports, in the area from which Turkish troops tried to attack the Khmeimim airbase, there were at least three T-122 Sakarya MLRS, which together would make it possible to fire at least 120 rockets at the Russian military airbase. Given the fact that the attack was thwarted, and the Turkish side has not yet commented on the charges of trying to strike at the Khmeimim airbase, experts believe that the preparation for the attacks was possible thanks to an unmanned aerial vehicle.

[Guru]

Guard Turn (Andrey)
Russian Su-34 destroyed three turrets MLRS Turkey

- LINK TO THE STUDIO

[krot]

Quote: Guru

- LINK TO THE STUDIO

On Yandex Zen there was an article that you can believe 50 percent no more .. Today I read. It would be true, they would have already trumpeted all the channels.

[flicker]

It would be true, already on all channels would blow

Trumpeting is not profitable for either the Turks or us.
Infa went to the "aviapro". There are reasons to doubt, of course, BUT ...
But, on an interactive map of military operations (and this is another source), a blow of Russian landmasses near the borders of Latakia and Idlib was noted. Al-Kibina district is there, not far from Salma.
Besides, aren't the terrorists (who tried to attack Khmeimim with drones more than once) or the Turks disguised as terrorists capable of such actions?
They are quite capable.
So infa is more like the truth than fiction.

[Guards turn]

Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/rossiyskie-su-34-unichtozhili-tri-rszo-turcii-kotorye-pytalis-nanesti-masshtabnyy-udar-po

[cost]

Andrey, I welcome you
avia.pro is not a site you can trust. When tracking articles on Avia.Pro, there is informational provocation in the interpretation of events. And this leaves a very unpleasant feeling. IMHO - this is a common pro-Western site. No more, no less. Not much information for you:

You are not the first one to be negative for "news" from this site. Many colleagues from VO fell for this.
Best regards
Dmitriy

[flicker]

But the site can not publish only fakes, sometimes you need the truth.
But, an interactive map (and this is another source !!!) showed that Russian dryers bombed the area on the border of Latakia (where there were no active battles). And this area is exactly where Al-Kibiny is. So infe is more likely to be believed than to doubt.
Or do you think that conscience will not allow the Turks (or terrorists)?

[Guards turn]

"Turkey, let's go bye!": Russia sent strategic bombers to Syria to bomb Idlib
It became known about sending strategic bombers to Syria.

The media reported that against the backdrop of the confrontation between Russia, Turkey and Syria, strategic bombers were urgently deployed to the Arab Republic, which, at last, would put an end to pro-Turkish terrorists and destroy the locations of hundreds of tanks, armored personnel carriers and jet multiple launch rocket systems.

"Sources in Syria have just reported deploying in Syria the most advanced Russian bomber capable of arming itself with hypersonic missiles with nuclear warheads," Veterans Today, a Western information publication, reports. “Russia directly stated to Erdogan that she would not negotiate with terrorists. If Turkey helps the militants, then Russia will help Syria. Should we expect a powerful bombardment by Russian "strategists"? Absolutely! ”, The specialist notes.

It should be clarified that earlier Russian Tu-22 bombers already took part in delivering attacks on the territory of Syria - during a special operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces it was possible to destroy large formations of Islamic State terrorists (terrorist group banned in Russia - approx. Ed.).
Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/turciya-davay-do-svidaniya-rossiya-otpravila-v-siriyu-strategicheskie-bombardirovshchiki-bombit

[carstorm 11]

never bring this source) there are some fakes with it stupid and for the same as their authors clowns.

[papandopala]

Quote: Guards turn

"Turkey, let's go bye!": Russia sent strategic bombers to Syria to bomb Idlib
It became known about sending strategic bombers to Syria.

The media reported that against the backdrop of the confrontation between Russia, Turkey and Syria, strategic bombers were urgently deployed to the Arab Republic, which, at last, would put an end to pro-Turkish terrorists and destroy the locations of hundreds of tanks, armored personnel carriers and jet multiple launch rocket systems.

"Sources in Syria have just reported deploying in Syria the most advanced Russian bomber capable of arming itself with hypersonic missiles with nuclear warheads," Veterans Today, a Western information publication, reports. “Russia directly stated to Erdogan that she would not negotiate with terrorists. If Turkey helps the militants, then Russia will help Syria. Should we expect a powerful bombardment by Russian "strategists"? Absolutely! ”, The specialist notes.

It should be clarified that earlier Russian Tu-22 bombers already took part in delivering attacks on the territory of Syria - during a special operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces it was possible to destroy large formations of Islamic State terrorists (terrorist group banned in Russia - approx. Ed.).
Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/turciya-davay-do-svidaniya-rossiya-otpravila-v-siriyu-strategicheskie-bombardirovshchiki-bombit

Avia about not only foreign weapons and the military scum, BUT OURS, ALSO, SHOULD BE HIDDEN TO COVER THESE FAKOVERS

[protoss]

Avia about those still science fiction writers, speedinfos and rents have a rest.

[Guru]

Goodbye Troll

[Avior]

Never heard of such a publication.
I climbed into the Internet - and what did I see?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Today
I’m silent about avia.pro, those are also fake ...
Maybe you should wait until someone else confirms?

[stalki]

It smells like singe. And next to the gas siphon. I would like to believe that our meeting with the Turks will cool their "imperial ambitions". Everything is dashing. The scale is swinging too much.

[Oquzyurd]

"imperial ambitions")))? Think again.

[stalki]

"imperial ambitions")))? Think again.

You need to think about it, pull yourself up so to speak. And everything will become clear at once

[Oquzyurd]

"And everything will become clear at once lol" It is clear, you tried hard, but still did not think.

[stalki]

"And everything will become clear at once lol" It is clear, you tried hard, but still did not think.

Um, I realized it’s very difficult for your head to roll back, yes, it’s incurable. I can’t help you.

[Oquzyurd]

"a somersault very difficult for your head, yes, it is incurable" Justify this somersault with your healed head:
1. Who accepted 4-5 million refugees from Syria?
2. Which of the present countries in Syria has a land border with this country?
3. Do these countries that do not have borders with Syria accept at least 1 thousand people from Syria?
3. In the territories of which of these countries does the threat emanate from the territories of Syria?
Now think again about who has imperial ambitions.

[stalki]

1. Who accepted 4-5 million refugees from Syria?
2. Which of the present countries in Syria has a land border with this country?
3. Do these countries that do not have borders with Syria accept at least 1 thousand people from Syria?
3. In the territories of which of these countries does the threat emanate from the territories of Syria?
Now think again who has imperial ambitions

Who dared to enter the territory of Syria as to his home, who unleashed a confrontation on his border for purely imperial purposes, for the supply of militants and acting on the orders of the FSE, who wants to squeeze out a piece of land, who is a provocateur, Russia? Syria, which wants to regain control of the legitimate territory of the country? Are refugees hiding? They did not expect anything else from them. They know how to shoot in the back.

[Oquzyurd]

You didn’t answer any of the questions. Slogans and cliches, and it’s clear that they didn’t gather here for discussion. It’s a pity, minus signists.

[Yeraz]

Quote: Oquzyurd

A pity, minus.

There are pluses here pluses

[Oquzyurd]

I know, thanks)

[stalki]

You didn’t answer any of the questions. Slogans and cliches, and it’s clear that they didn’t gather here for discussion. It’s a pity, minus signists.

What are the slogans, which countries? You took aside, even off-topic questions were asked. We are not discussing either Israel or Iraq or the others, we are discussing the Turks and their intrigues. Refugees, by the way, are a large part of the Turkish-motivated mass, and with them terrorists. Nobody asked them to flee to Turkey, and then to Europe; they themselves wanted to. Everyone who considers himself a Syrian, with Assad on one side, none of them wanted to go to Idlib.

[Oquzyurd]

"even off-topic questions were asked." Very much on the topic. If this is not a topic for you, it does not mean that it does not exist.
"We are not discussing either Israel or Iraq yet." Strange, where have you seen such a text?
“All who consider themselves Syrian, with Assad on one side, none of them wanted to go to Idlib.” What kind of logic is that? A Syrian is a Syrian everywhere, and not necessarily an Assad.

[stalki]

"even off-topic questions were asked." Very much on the topic. If this is not a topic for you, it does not mean that it does not exist.
"We are not discussing either Israel or Iraq yet." Strange, where have you seen such a text?
“All who consider themselves Syrian, with Assad on one side, none of them wanted to go to Idlib.” What kind of logic is that? A Syrian is a Syrian everywhere, and not necessarily an Assad.

You think so, we also have a lot of "Russians" in the revolutionary period fled to Europe and beyond. Those who remained faithful to their homeland returned, those who thought it was right to forget about Russia, they thought they were Russians. AND? Thinking and counting is one thing, but being is quite another. By the way, I did not pronounce the word "Assad" and did not mean adherence to him, but meant healthy patriotism and it does not matter who is at the helm in a given historical period.
P.S. Actually, you asked about the neighboring countries.

[RVAPatriot]

They wouldn’t write nonsense, there wouldn’t be any minuses .... A country on its territory cannot restore order ???

[Sadam]

I agree with you. own territory that they want and do something.
What is the difference between Donetsk? here I see here I wrap a herring))

[shahor]

Quote: stalki

Who dared to enter the territory of Syria as to their home,

Well, you would be interested in the essence of the matter before stigmatizing angrily. In 1998, Syria and Turkey signed the Amanat Treaty, according to which Turkey indisputably received the right to send troops into Syrian territory in case of threats to Turkish security. All clear? Turkey acts in accordance with a bilateral treaty.

[Liam]

Quote: shahor

Quote: stalki

Who dared to enter the territory of Syria as to their home,

Well, you would be interested in the essence of the matter before stigmatizing angrily. In 1998, Syria and Turkey signed Amanat an agreement under which Turkey indisputably gained the right to send troops into Syria in the event of threats to Turkish security. All clear? Turkey acts in accordance with a bilateral treaty.

You, too, would first of all take an interest before copying. There is no Amanat agreement.
There is an Adan agreement. I suspect that you are not particularly aware of what is written there even if you don’t know the correct name

[shahor]

Quote: Liam

I suspect that you are not particularly in the subject of what is written there

It says exactly what I said.

[Liam]

Quote: shahor

It says exactly what I said.

В Amanat Treaty maybe it’s written ... in the Adana agreement, not quite

[stalki]

Well, you would be interested in the essence of the matter before stigmatizing angrily. In 1998, Syria and Turkey signed the Amanat Treaty, according to which Turkey indisputably received the right to send troops into Syria in case of threats to Turkey’s security. All clear? Turkey acts in accordance with a bilateral treaty

I do not know if you deliberately made a reservation regarding the Adan agreement, but the root of Amanat in the old sense is nothing more than a hostage. Syria was forced to sign this document. And by the way, where did you see compliance by the Turks in the execution of this agreement?
Is helping terrorists the security of Turkey? By agreement, she is obliged to eliminate them.

[shahor]

Quote: stalki

Is helping terrorists the security of Turkey?

Turks believe that refugees from Idlib, whose number is close to a million, threaten the country's security. They blame the Assad regime for this, which, in violation of the Sochi accords, launched an offensive over the line of Turkish observation posts. From the side of the Syrians, not everything is so simple and simple. First, they made a colossal, catastrophic mistake. Having seized territories controlled by the militants, they broke up mass graves and began to take selfies against the background of the remains. I do not give a legal assessment, but the social networks on BV exploded! The Alawites (read Shiites) desecrated Sunni graves. Sunni Turks. It is necessary to explain what may follow. What new facets will the conflict play in? And further. In the Syrian leadership itself, tear. Bashar focuses on Russia. His brother, the commander of 4 corps, on Iran. I can not reliably say, but some media in the BV write that it was from the military personnel of this corps that there was a leak of data on the route of movement of Russian special forces. Why this was done, I do not want to discuss. They will figure it out. But the goal of the anti-Russian group in Syria now is to push the foreheads of Russia and Turkey. So more exposure and less high-profile calls. Everything will be formed.

[stalki]

I already wrote about refugees from Idlib who they really are, read carefully.

From the side of the Syrians, not everything is so simple and simple. First, they made a colossal, catastrophic mistake. Having seized territories controlled by the militants, they broke up mass graves and began to take selfies against the background of the remains.

about the "militants", are you out of your mind at all? Terrorists, that's right, not militants. Have you set up hell in a foreign land, with the help of fshi and Turkey, and they are now fluffy because their graves were dug? Do you even know what you are writing? Terrorists destroy the population of the country, steal resources, seize land, sponsor and supply for the sake of war. And someone should spare their graves when they destroy temples? What planet are you from?

[shahor]

Quote: stalki

Terrorists destroy the country's population, steal resources, seize land, are sponsored and supplied just for the sake of war

Quoting newspaper clichés is not a sign of independent thinking.

[stalki]

Quoting newspaper clichés is not a sign of independent thinking.

Of course I only pretend to think here I’m not using a training manual. Read laziness

[shahor]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

What has Syria violated?

Syria violated the Sochi agreements and, contrary to Russia's opinion, launched an offensive over the line of Turkish observation posts on the demarcation line.

[ananias mudishev]

In Europe there are many refugees from Syria

[knn54]

You might think that ONLY the Turks supply the barmalei.

[stalki]

You might think that ONLY the Turks supply barmaley

and, let’s let’s supply? Plus minus a dozen, another tank in your opinion is normal, right?

[ML-334]

Only the Turks will rake it and it’s unlikely that something will crawl back

[Mountain shooter]

While the concentration is not critical. More demo ... And videoconferencing is quite tough. Well, it would not be worth the Turks to bully ... With Assad's Syria, they would have coped. And with Syria plus Khmeimim - I think not. Erdogan "raises the stakes", this may indicate that his affairs as a political leader are bad ... so there are also Kurds ...

[Kronos]

And why Russia doesn’t have much strength in Syria, if military operations begin, they can destroy the base in Khmeimim because there are more forces at the bottom

[1976AG]

Quote: Kronos

And why Russia doesn’t have much strength in Syria, if military operations begin, they can destroy the base in Khmeimim because there are more forces at the bottom

Of course they can, but it will already be a direct armed conflict with Russia, and with our weapons in order to give a good answer to the Turks there is no need to keep a lot of forces in Syria.

[Kronos]

I mean, Russia is unlikely to go to fight Syria with Turkey in the same way as with Israel

[1976AG]

Quote: Kronos

I mean, Russia is unlikely to go to fight Syria with Turkey in the same way as with Israel

So no longer fight for Syria, but for our military base in Syria. And this is a completely different matter!

[Old Michael]

Erdogan "raises the stakes", this may indicate that his affairs as a political leader are bad ... so there are also Kurds ...

Maybe it's time (until on Monday we sat down at the negotiating table) publicly inform the Turks that, in violation of their own obligations, heavy weapons were found in the bases of Nusra and other terrorist forces. And if there are Turkish servicemen there, then they should fled within the next 6 hours, because in these 6 hours ...
It will be difficult for Erdogan to shift responsibility to Syria or Russia.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

So far, concentration is not critical. More demo ...

The Turks support their barmaley with quite live firing of MLRS and long-range artillery. According to the international protocol, the Turks close the zone of straits for their opponents, if such are announced. Say what other object on the Syrian territory is shot from the Turkish border?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Say what other object on the Syrian territory is shot from the Turkish border?

And remember such a strange terrorist attack when a bus with Turkish pilots was blown up ... After we shot down our dryer. He wasn’t particularly advertised, such as a Kurd, a car with explosives ... Do you think the hint did not reach Erdogan?

[Thunderbolt]

I got it. Therefore, in the very places where fighting is taking place, a Russian attack aircraft was shot down / a pilot died heroically, showed the creatures their place and how the Russians are fighting ../ It was stated that the troops controlling it from the MANPADS were shot down. There would be nothing, but there are two points
1.) These units are created and sponsored by the state of Turkey. Turkish soldiers are part of their units under the guise of undercover military advisers, etc. "playing trainers", when skilled fighters fight in irregular units. This gives these semi-guerrilla formations great resilience and the training process is not in isolation from production, if you can call war production of cripples and corpses .... However, this is a philosophy, now in we will enter such wilds, therefore SHA!
2.) 2 days before the downing of the Russian attack aircraft, the Turkish Foreign Minister gave a "lengthy" interview, where, in particular, he indicated that the Idlib zone was in their sphere of interest, and the fighting was called by the Syrian rebels bravely fighting for their rights.
Well ... third ... probably the most important ..... You may have noticed that only Assad inflicts air strikes. The Russian Air Force is constrained by the position of Turkey.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Well ... third ... probably the most important ..... You may have noticed that only Assad inflicts air strikes. The Russian Air Force is constrained by the position of Turkey.

Turkish aviation does not even try to fly abroad ... Who is fettering whom?

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Turkish aviation does not even try to fly abroad ... Who is fettering whom?
Reply

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Turkish aviation does not even try to fly abroad ... Who is fettering whom?
Reply

The troop 24 fetters them, ours completely. But the radar support is probably from the posts nominated from Khmeimim, which means that our division has a Polyana station / probably it was included in the division's command post and it merges all the radar information onto the command post command vehicle from the BU However, in 7/XNUMX mode, the division is not adapted to fight, but it means that the batteries are pulled up to the front line and the combat expectation is produced by batteries. Note that there is even more than one battery. If it starts working, the "Alarm !!!" and the personnel of other batteries rise from their seats and take their jobs. You don't have to walk far. As a rule, they slept there .... Fortunately, the Soviet designers well provided for the conditions for the crews to rest. ki and do not care frost === chopped off immediately. At Pushek, it is simpler there ---- you throw your head on the dashboard and wash beautiful dreams ... until the first word ... and the word was not like in the Bible, but different. "ANXIETY!!!"

[shahor]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Turkish aviation does not even try to fly abroad ... Who is fettering whom?

The Turks declared airspace over Idlib a no-fly zone. They warned that they would bring down everyone. Does the presentation begin?

[Geo⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Say what other object on the Syrian territory is shot from the Turkish border?

I know that Ankara shoots well from the Crimea. And you forgot the geography, right?

[Thunderbolt]

Khmeimim is the overseas expeditionary territory of Russia. There is a flag on the flagstaff waving, because Russia carries out a special international mission in that region. All hostilities take place by agreement of the parties. This is the highlight and some "understatement" of the Cold War wars. Which continues.
A blow to Ankara is already a different level. When you opened fire on Ankara, you took into account that this is the sovereign territory of another state / there will be questions at the UN / and a member of the NATO bloc?
Our airfield in Syria does not fully meet the requirements of territoriality, and therefore the Strategic Missile Forces and other parts of the triad only carry out combat duty. Being in the highest degree of readiness, these guys are waiting for only one thing --- ORDER !!! But in Ankara, such an order will not be received, because. nuclear parity ... with. Only Assad, only hardcore, I'm sadly joking .... Of course, in the forefront are now all the best minds of our General Staff, artillerymen and intelligence fighters with the elite Russian infantry. But in the air NATO has supremacy and supremacy. what operational effect would Khmeimim's work in the "non-stop" mode have on clusters of militants. their strongholds and supply communications. But this does not happen --- they "mix" their forces with a purely Turkish army. ... our troop 1 was pulled up to this area and it is now in ambush counting a possible flight of F-XNUMX sixteen. The Turks are well aware of this and are forced to support their motorized infantry brigades mainly with transport helicopters. Already something ...

[Geo⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Opening fire on the city of Ankara, you took into account

Yeah, I took everything into account. In which case - Ankara to dust. This is the only way out.
Only you did not change the training manual when answering me - I did not say a word about the Strategic Missile Forces. Spread conventional.

Quote: Thunderbolt

.Of course, in the forefront now all the best minds of our GS

I don’t know how it is in your General Staff, but in ours, plans for a war with Turkey should have been gathering dust for decades. So it is arranged - our General Staff - just in case of probable aggressors pre-works.

[Geo⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣]

Quote: Thunderbolt

NATO

You have to be stupid enough not to understand that NATO does not exist to protect the United States, but to protect the United States.
Tomorrow the Baltic States will completely wane and attack the Kaliningrad region, and we will let drool - they say they are in NATO? Should I sacrifice Kaliningrad?
Everyone understands everything perfectly. And if the roof of Erdogan is torn off, his yesterday’s allies will disown his corpse faster than he cools down.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Geo⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣

Only you did not change the training manual when answering me - I did not say a word about the Strategic Missile Forces. Spread conventional.
Quote: Thunderbolt

You can see that you don't take into account that Turkey is sitting under a nuclear umbrella. You can bombard it with conventional charges, although there are not enough forces for this, / even if you transfer two additional Iskander battalions and shoot all the available missile ammunition in Russia. This is possible, only in parallel with Turkish naval bases will bristle with the exit of their ships and all the aircraft will rise. At the same time, the duty units from the Romanian airfield and all the coastal NATO countries can react. In German Ramstein, the howl of hundreds of turbines will roar with a hellish flame, which American submariners will prepare for Russian cities. ...
In their sane mind, no one in the city of Ankara twitches. Nuclear parity is doing its job. Nobody captures Belorussiyu.Armniya and the proie of Kyrgyzstan, because. In a legal way, Russian boys came to the UN and said, “Don’t shut up !!!”. Simultaneously with this delightful phenomenon, an ugly American cowboy spoke from the UN rostrum. He named his circle of interests --- Turkey is included in it. unfortunately ...

[Demagogue]

A counter strike began from the north on the dushmans at Aleppo from the territory of the Kurds. Highway 62 is cut from the south, and from the north, the last road for departure at Jabal.

[Operator]

Everything goes the way - the Turks, by agreement with Russia, have the right to be in Idlib only on the territory of their observation posts (with the exception of transport convoys on the roads), all other weapons located outside their perimeter are a legitimate target for the Russian Aerospace Forces.

[protoss]

Is it written right here? Do not bother to give a source?

[Thrifty]

By such actions, the Turks untied the hands of both the Syrian army and our Air Force! Now it doesn’t matter whether in the military uniform of the Turkish army, or in your dressing gown, you shoot towards the military from Syria, you are subject to immediate liquidation.

[Kronos]

And if the Turks begin to shoot and shoot down these same Air Force?

[Thrifty]

Kronos-then the nefik to distribute his military uniform to the militants, and supply them with weapons! The very first our military plane shot down, taking into account the fact that the militants are in Turkish military uniforms, unties us anyway and obliges us to respond harshly, destroying the Turkish military equipment, and the Turkish military!

[Genry]

Quote: Kronos

And if the Turks begin to shoot and shoot down these same Air Force?

Then Russia has the right to strike Istanbul ...

[protoss]

Quote: Genry

Then Russia has the right to strike Istanbul

then NATO gets the right to hit Moscow ...
Well, why do we need this exchange?

[Genry]

Quote: protoss

then NATO gets the right to hit Moscow ...

Then Russia has the right to strike the USA ...
So let the US restrain its sultan.

[protoss]

Are you ready to sacrifice Moscow for Bashar al-Assad?
me not.

[Genry]

Quote: protoss

Are you ready to sacrifice Moscow for Bashar al-Assad?
me not.

And what does Assad have to do with it?
Russia defends its interests. It’s worth it to bend once and everyone will have you ...

[protoss]

our specific interest there is the preservation of Asad, so what about.
you answer a question

[Genry]

Quote: protoss

our specific interest there

Russia's interests are primary. Assad just happened to be there.

[protoss]

oh how! That's great. I have nothing to add here.
and you ignore uncomfortable questions, well, God bless you, I, in fact, do not care

[Genry]

Quote: protoss

and you ignore uncomfortable questions

I can’t understand, you just narrowly see one Assad?
Replace it and Russia will continue to defend its interests in Syria and everywhere ...

[protoss]

drove through, agios

[Geo⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣]

Quote: protoss

are you ready to sacrifice Moscow for Bashar al-Assad

We know that the United States is not ready to sacrifice itself for Erdogan.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: protoss

then NATO gets the right to hit Moscow ...
Well, why do we need this exchange?

Wangyu, NATO will be stuck in the bushes faster than a hare. There will be many screeching, zero actions!

[protoss]

And if not? so-so lottery.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: protoss

And if not? so-so lottery

Nonsense. The rule of spetsnaz is that they do not threaten weapons. Bared the barrel - shoot! And then "tyaf-tyaf-tyaf" and that's it ...

[Geo⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣]

Quote: protoss

And if not?

Then someone will go to heaven, and someone will simply die (s). But the probability of this major event is so small that it is more than acceptable. Otherwise, you can not go out on the street, fearing to end your life under the car - there’s more probability there.

[Geo⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣]

Quote: Kronos

And if the Turks begin to shoot and shoot down these same Air Force?

Buyan-M, locking somewhere along the Volga-Don canal, as a hello, will turn the residence of the Sultan into a pile of wreckage. Figuratively, of course, speaking.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The Turks are feverishly trying to prevent the defeat of the militants. It became finally clear that the Turks used them to maintain their occupation of the Syrian territories.

[Prahlad]

We also have to put the equipment, then we can easily break the Turks

[protoss]

Of particular concern is the fact that a significant part of military equipment is transferred to militants from pro-Turkish groups, including the banned in Russia "Jabhat al-Nusra"

Well, this organization has not existed for a long time, unless the Turks invented the time machine.

[Nastia makarova]

no name but the militants of this group remained

[Reserve buildbat]

It remains only to wish them to group themselves together and not scatter to be the easiest target for aviation. Actually, the Turkes and other mattresses are occupiers and, quite frankly, bandits. Subject to physical destruction.

[Maalkavianin]

The stupid war has begun. When there were terrorists, no one really knew who it was and what kind of enemy, but they beat it. Joyfully reported. Now there is a specific enemy - Turkey, threatening our fighters and killing them and? And silence ... Here's how they will reckon with our country if we constantly endure insult after insult? It is clear that Turkey is in NATO. It is clear that they can fit in for her. It is clear that it threatens a big war. But what now? Are they afraid of everyone?

[Geo⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣]

Quote: Malkavianin

It is clear that they can fit in for her.

This is exactly what the Janissaries are trying to force themselves to believe, so that their knees do not coward when walking on foreign land.
Normal people understand that if something happens, the American arms lobby will simply cast a monument to Putin from gold and put it in his back yard to sacrifice to him a part of the super profit that fell on them after the destruction of Turkey.
We have sanctions and a lot of stink. It will become more difficult for our officials to add capital over a hill.
NATO reinforcement and reformation.
That's all.

[protoss]

we lowered ourselves to the level of Assad, Greens and Kurds. none of the external participants for the time being entered this war personally and with obligations, all acted through proxy forces. our proxies are Asadites, Turkish - Turkomans and various Islamic groups, American - Kurds, Iranian - again, Asadites, Hezbis and all sorts of mercenaries from the Middle East. we were the first to start, having officially entered Syria at the official level, although it was possible to confine ourselves to Chevrons. incidentally, Iran did not. now the rest also have the right to participate directly on the side of their wards.

[aiden]

Our VKS today leveled the Turkish point from where the Syrian helicopter was shot down from the MANPADS. I can not throw off the video from the teogram. And there’s nothing to look at. Ruins alone

[We_smart]

Quote: Oquzyurd

"a somersault very difficult for your head, yes, it is incurable" Justify this somersault with your healed head:
1. Who accepted 4-5 million refugees from Syria?
2. Which of the present countries in Syria has a land border with this country?
3. Do these countries that do not have borders with Syria accept at least 1 thousand people from Syria?
3. In the territories of which of these countries does the threat emanate from the territories of Syria?
Now think again about who has imperial ambitions.

1. Do not accept.
2. Do not attend.
3. see para. 1
4. (3) What was asked then? Syria threatens Syria? To herself? But, I realized, on the contrary, the territory of Syria threatens Syria? Not that again. Something I do not understand, explain.

[lvov_aleksey]

infuriates the word "oil"!

[Geo⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣]

Have you seen white oil? Oil is a multifaceted and wonderful thing. You should remember about oil every time, if only when for your good an internal combustion engine is started or when you pick up plastic products.

[shahor]

Quote: Thunderbolt

with elite Russian infantry.

About the elite of the Russian infantry smiled ... Parts of the military police from the Chechen and Ingush Rosgvardeytsy and police, well, yes, you can say, Putin's foot soldiers (R. Kadyrov).

[Sarcasm]

Despite assurances of a desire to end the conflict in Idlib province by peaceful means, Turkey is actively transferring personnel, weapons and military equipment to Syrian territory. This was told by a military-diplomatic source.

Where does this infa come from? ... Again, our "fools turned on"? ... Today is February 15th, hey people, people-and-and !!! - You’re probably getting used to our idle talk, you’ve lost the habit of politicians who say and do. We were told, we were warned to the last, but we had the wind in our ears and they made us, we are not someone else, not aliens.
And again the wind is in their ears - the people, Erdogan made a statement, this is not a gag and an impromptu, they consult both themselves and with their allies - our probable "friends".
We can't take the Turks "weakly", their leadership in every possible way and by actions shows that it will not play by our rules and play along when we naively turn on the fool. Specifically in Syria, and in Libya, the Turks have a colossal advantage and are able to realize it.
By saying "we" I mean our authorities, we hope to pull, lead the Turks by the nose and by the end of February take as large a territory as possible, such as putting the Turks in front of the facts and they say they will not get into a conflict with us - SHOOT. Drink and drink in full.
Erdogan has already accused Russia of Libya, just a few hours ago there was an interview, bluntly saying that all of our independent PMCs are controlled by our Ministry of Defense and the General Staff, this is a hint, and rather more in the context of the situation in Idlib and very transparent that both our tales about the fact that "Assad himself decided and is leading the offensive" is not for the Turks.

Erdogan needed us, obviously he did not count on us as allies, but he hoped to find support, including in the confrontation with the EU and the USA. If we look at everything through the eyes of the Turks and take into account all that we promised, we are scammers. So, I think, on this, if we do not calm down, they will say goodbye to us and only begin to work more closely with China, since they have so many common projects, including through military-technical cooperation. Something the Turks will take in Ukraine now, they are already cooperating with Belarus, and if we mess up with Minsk now, their cooperation with the Turks will only be closer. The same Buk-MB 3K air defense systems are of interest not only to a couple of CIS countries, former partners of the USSR, but also to the same Turks, Turks already use MZKT, etc., etc.

IMHO, we make the mistake of going to confrontation and throwing the Turks. Firstly, it tactically comes around to us, most likely we are waiting for the sad news from Syria, and in the long run is not the right decision.

[Kronos]

What kidalovo Turks are we talking about? They did not fulfill their words on Idlib for a long time the Syrians have all the rights to take their territory

[Kronos]

If there were communists, it was still possible to argue, but in the opposition there are only different types of Islamists who establish their own far worse orders than Assad. I do not deny that the reasons were only everywhere where the Arab spring passed was much worse than before. If you are talking about an attack on a US base by Iran in which no one died, then this is a clean contract without victims, but supposedly avenged

[Sarcasm]

Regarding the "negotiated match" - I would like to emphasize that the negotiated match is the weakness of the United States, not Iran ... And the amers were smart enough to understand that they WILL HIT and come out with a minimum of losses and damage. Are we smart enough?
Iran or Turkey, for example, this is not Ukraine, a state with conditional sovereignty and statehood in general, like many other ex-USSR republics, it is not Georgia, although in both cases it was not easy for us and it was not an easy walk, mothers got bumps.
Turkey is a state and a sovereign state, and under Erdogan its sovereignty was further strengthened. Turkey is our neighbor, Turkey is a promising market for us, Turkey divorced or distant from NATO is security for us. And what about Syria? Put on the scales ... What are the interests of the country, including us and the interests of our oligarchs, who, as always, will withdraw all capital over the hill without leaving a dime here? ... Soviet Russia helped the Turkish Republic, the USSR helped and supported during the crisis around Cyprus, when ALL NATO countries sided with Greece, in those days we had no fools where to go. Due to only the latter, we have built dozens of factories in Turkey, and not for free ...

PS At that time, when the USSR was building factories, the young interpreter Vova Zhirinovsky, who went on an internship and wanted to curry favor, handed a couple of badges with Lenin to the worker, for which he tried balandas in a Turkish jail. Another feature is that the Turks still forbid the images of Lenin, Marx and Engels so far, while the Communist Party and Marxists are underground. Until now, passwords, appearances, searches, arrests, etc., are all serious. But apart from the left, the Islamists, including Erdogan, were also almost underground, also went through a similar one, and through pressure, and through landings, etc. It is naive to believe that the local neo Koba is dumber or more cowardly than our Joseph Vissarionovich, you need to defend your own, but not to lose the Turks, we will not be allies in the full sense of the word, it is important for us not to become enemies.

[parkello]

started erdogadit slowly tomorrow they will raise their fighters ... Peter the Great was right

[Dikson]

How is it not known where they will come up, these MANPADS? Around Hmeimim they will emerge ... what is there to guess ..