“Had no strategy”: US troops in Afghanistan and the results of their presence


In connection with the approaching next anniversary of the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan, those who will again begin to discuss the “wrong” and “unnecessary” “undeclared war” to the Soviet people, which we also “lost,” will probably begin. And such figures will not fail to screw on this occasion the usual for them: "Is it the Americans?"


And really, let's compare in the most general terms - how different is the Afghan campaign of the US Army in its results from the one conducted by the USSR in its time?

I must say right away that it will be impossible to upset the witnesses of the "sect of a great and infallible America". Well, it doesn’t work out differently, if you tell the truth and be objective. In the main, it can be stated that the military presence of Americans in Afghanistan, if it differs in its results and main points from the presence of the Shuravi, is perhaps not for the better. The ideals of “freedom and democracy”, which in a distant eastern country, who did not want to give up the tribal way of life, tried to plant overseas “benefactors” under a star-striped flag, turned out to be no closer to the Afghans than the prospect of building a “developed socialist society”. Moreover, the enormous amount of corruption and abuse of the colonial administration posed by the Americans made the mountaineers, who have very peculiar life concepts, increasingly turn to justice for the Taliban's incarnation of evil declared by Washington.

Human losses and costs of warfare? Based on official statistics, the US Army killed over the years of the mission in Afghanistan was almost ten times less than our soldiers and officers who fought there with dushmans. The only problem is that the Americans themselves admit that there is not the slightest faith in the numbers announced by Washington. At the end of last year, a publication appeared on the website of The Washington Post that had a more than typical title: “Afghan papers: Secret история wars - many years of lies, stolen billions and thousands of "hidden" deaths. " Moreover, everything that is stated there is based strictly on a documentary basis, which includes hundreds of previously classified reports, reports and reports.

The picture, frankly, is depressing. So, one of the leaders of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) expressed the opinion that 90% of the funds allocated to Afghanistan through this organization, "were wasted." Moreover, there is every reason to believe that since 2001, employees of the Ministry of Defense, the State Department and the same USAID working on the Afghan line have squandered or simply put in their own pocket from 934 to 978 billion dollars. The following figure may testify to the "effectiveness" of using the funds allocated for operations in this country: about $ 10 billion from the US state budget was spent "on combating drugs." So what? According to the UN, Afghan opium makes up at least 80% of the global sales of this dope.

For some reason, the Americans fought not with drug dealers, but with the Taliban (the Taliban is a terrorist group banned in the Russian Federation), who burned poppy crops in the country. Well, so much has been written about the stuffed with heroin and raw materials for its production of the military transport sides of the US Army that regularly fly from Afghanistan to Europe that I don’t see any reason to repeat. By the way, which was not close when the Soviet troops were there - it was such a fantastic flowering and rampant drug trade. Under the Americans, the volume of drug trafficking from Afghanistan has grown by almost 30 times!

Since 2001, no real power has been built in the country, there is no cohesive army, and terrorist acts occur almost every day. Now it has come to the point that Washington has to "negotiate" with the Taliban ...

What else is worth mentioning? "Afghan Syndrome" committing crimes and killing themselves veterans? The United States got no less this evil than our country, even, rather, much more - if we compare the quantitative ratio of the past “Afghans” with us and ours. Victory in the war? Well, what a victory it is if Americans in Afghanistan are hated as fiercely and killed as willingly as in the year they appeared. The last case, when a local soldier shot six US Army soldiers from a machine gun, occurred just a few days ago. And a military aircraft this year in Afghanistan they shot down. And all of Washington’s statements about “control of the situation” in this country are a lie of sheer water. They do not control anything there, except for sites of military bases and drug trafficking ...

According to the American military’s confessions published just now, they entered Afghanistan “without any clear strategy,” and even more so with absolutely no idea about this country, its realities, way of life, and the like. Rulers and commanders from the time of Alexander the Great are trying to conquer Afghanistan, make its people “live in a new way”. And always with the same constant result.
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  1. Lamata 13 February 2020 11: 06 New
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    About the grandmother for sure, there they are pulled into various miracles. 2004 in Afghanistan was on a business trip (not military at that time, we sold them harvesters) Mazar-e-Sharif, our local partner told us a lot of interesting things. Former Khadovets, then the spirit, then at Dostum.
  2. Cowbra 13 February 2020 11: 17 New
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    No, the strategy was clear, and it was implemented - namely the protection of the drug trade. it’s generally the CIA’s horse since the days of Iran-Contras. Let me remind you that when the Taliban captured Boschs at the stadium in Kabul or blew up UNESCO monuments, the mattresses snuffled into two holes and didn’t arise. But as soon as the Taliban began to burn poppy fields - all, they immediately discovered a lack of democracy.
    And that is a fact.
    1. figwam 13 February 2020 11: 33 New
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      Quote: Cowbra
      No, the strategy was clear, and it was implemented - namely the protection of the drug trade.

      After the entry of American troops, drug trafficking from Afghanistan grew.
      1. Gene84 13 February 2020 11: 56 New
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        Quote: figvam
        After the entry of American troops, drug trafficking from Afghanistan grew.

        How else. drug trafficking and gas and oil fields are two components of American imperialism.
        1. Michael vitman 13 February 2020 13: 26 New
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          As well as in Russia! Wagner PMCs also graze near poppy fields and plantations
      2. Michael vitman 13 February 2020 13: 25 New
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        After the introduction of the USSR troops, the drug flow in the USSR also increased!
        1. Sadam 13 February 2020 19: 05 New
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          then and now it’s not at all correct to compare. gerych sulutayen then exotics were. Now a good party does not do without coke. syringes at stops lying around after the celebration of NG
    2. Berber 13 February 2020 12: 10 New
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      Afghanistan is just a link in big strategy. And drug trafficking is only a small bonus in these plans. It was planned to move the conflict closer to the borders of Russia. Afghanistan was seen as a “corridor” for the transfer of chaos from the “Middle East”. But then we coolly broke their plans.
    3. dauria 13 February 2020 13: 44 New
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      No, the strategy was clear, and it was implemented - namely the protection of the drug trade


      Keep control of airfields. The tasks of "conquering" the country do not set. Let them run and fight among themselves - the Americans will contribute to this. A good place to threaten Iran from the east, Russia from the south and Pakistan from the west. Do not forget the interests of China there, side by side.
      Temporary? They don’t care, everything is temporary in this world. Forces and means are commensurate with the result. They just don't care about drugs, it's a local business. They do not bother.
      1. Cowbra 13 February 2020 14: 11 New
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        No, they don’t give a damn about drugs, this is just the source of CIA financing, I repeat - a long-standing source. Airfields and a hotbed of tension in the region are also tasks, but there is already a strong question of what is primary, what is secondary. You yourself understand. that their airfields are now in fact connected to bases - only through Turkmen. On the one hand, Iran, on the other, pro-Chinese Pakistan. There is such a thing, the entrance is the ruble, the exit is two, that's why they steal it, it turned out to be their weak point, even the drug trade does not outweigh the possible disadvantages - from there, there’s no way to scoop how out of Saigon - the aircraft carrier has nowhere to adjust
      2. Nyrobsky 13 February 2020 20: 32 New
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        Quote: dauria
        A good place to threaten Iran from the east,
        Suleimani, before his murder with mattresses, made good contacts with the Taliban. It is possible that the Taliban dropped an American plane, which, according to some reports, was the main hero of the plan to eliminate Suleimani with the help of the IRGC.
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        Russia from the South
        Of course, there is such a possibility, but the previous Taliban leader, whom the Americans liquidated a couple of years ago, said that the Taliban had no interests north of Afghanistan, which was duplicated by the current Taliban headquarters. Perhaps for this reason, mattresses began to throw Igilovites to the north of Afghanistan in order to try to wobble Russia with their hands. Only in case of withdrawal of the American contingent, the Taliban will clean the Ishilovites, who number from 3 to 4 thousand, very quickly, because they consider them to be the same occupiers as the Americans.
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        Pakistan from the West
        In the birth of the Taliban, Pakistan was directly involved, so I don’t think that the Taliban would be nightmaring him. Now the mattresses are driving their convoys through its territory, and besides, they see Pakistan as a lever of pressure on Delli.
        Quote: dauria
        Do not forget the interests of China there, next to

        Most likely, it will turn out that China will occupy a niche freed from mattresses, without resorting to military methods, but simply by lining the road to mineral deposits with the Chinese yuan and goods.
  3. LifeIsGood 13 February 2020 11: 21 New
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    When describing the losses, the author forgot to mention the fact that when ours were in Afghanistan, the United States provided all possible assistance to the Taliban, with weapons, instructors, intelligence, etc. And when the United States got into it, the Taliban had nothing of the kind and they were in splendid isolation.
    And what losses would the USA have if the Taliban were helped as before ... it's hard to imagine ...
    1. helmi8 13 February 2020 13: 16 New
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      And what losses would the USA have if ...

      If Ahmad Shah Masoud were alive. That's who knew how to fight ...
  4. rocket757 13 February 2020 11: 26 New
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    “It’s the matter - the Americans!”

    So those robots do not get used to obsi --- do.
  5. Vasily Ponomarev 13 February 2020 11: 26 New
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    “The only problem is that the Americans themselves admit that there is not the slightest faith in the numbers that Washington announces.” - Of course, I thought for a second whether it’s worth trying to explain something, and I realized that the scoop had long gone wild, and Russia’s opinion does not interest anyone, so I think the article is suitable, you just need to be aware that you read and easily perceive such articles (I wrote this for a few normal ones)
    PS: https: //zloy-odessit.livejournal.com/3044001.html
    1. Berber 13 February 2020 12: 16 New
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      Friend do not "star". This is greetings from the "abnormal". Treat yourself a little critically. RUSSIA with a small letter - I do not understand is your ignorance or an indicator of disrespect?
      1. Nosgoth 14 February 2020 04: 48 New
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        This is an indicator of Svidomo.
  6. KVU-NSVD 13 February 2020 11: 39 New
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    Strategy - a permanent military presence in a potentially explosive region for major military opponents. Everyday life - they sit on fortified burrows, gamble with drugs, saw multibillion-dollar budgets. The results are dubious, but for us and China their presence there is like a land mine that can explode at the most unfavorable moment for us ..
  7. knn54 13 February 2020 11: 46 New
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    Not ONE Yankees military strategy led to peace and stability.
    1. Gene84 13 February 2020 12: 01 New
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      Quote: knn54
      Not ONE Yankees military strategy led to peace and stability.

      The concepts of peace and stability and the United States are not compatible. For the United States, peace and stability means the end of their political chaos and their military terrorism.
  8. ultra 13 February 2020 11: 51 New
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    Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
    (I wrote this for a few normal here)

    Well, you do not belong to the category of normal. laughing
  9. g1washntwn 13 February 2020 13: 17 New
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    “Without any clear strategy”

    This is from the point of view of ordinary saldafonov. If there was an opportunity to dig deeper into the State Department, the CIA and their affiliates, then such clear-cut strategies would pour out of all the cracks. For everyone and for everyone, for every taste and color. Looking at the fuss between the parties of the USA - for sure there are even clear star-striped strategies.
  10. Mikhail3 13 February 2020 14: 11 New
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    The Americans achieved all their goals in Afghanistan. A fully operational bridgehead, filled with weapons and soldiers, was created to control the extremely important geopolitical hub. A station has been set up for pumping funds from Europe through the drug trade. For a minute, these are tens of billions of euros controlled by the CIA. A serious channel was also organized for the destruction of the geopolitical adversary, that is, Russia, with the same drugs. Finally, the British were expelled, who had been controlling the Afghan drug trade for more than a century!
    What is bad in the situation for the USA? Your losses? The life of Americans has long been indifferent to their authorities. No worries about this? Yes, at least a million PMC workers were put in there, nobody cares, there will be less violence on the streets of the USA themselves, and that’s all.
    Failed to establish the life of the Afghans and the work of their state? So what? Since when did the sheriff worry about the problems of the Indians? Yes, they die at least everything, in the US no one sneezes. So Afghanistan is a major and undoubted success of the USA in the game according to their rules.
    Does all this seem disgusting to us? So we will wait 5-10 years, "we" will die out and retire, and those who have been raised in the country instead of Russian people for the last 30 years will approve of everything. Dear Russians will only regret that they themselves were not able to participate in money matters and drug trafficking. We already see all the sprouts of just such a worldview around us.
    Those shuravi that were there once were completely different people ...
  11. Basarev 19 February 2020 17: 20 New
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    The Americans came too late. One had to worry when the throne staggered under the king. Then they could save an almost developed society and legitimate authority. And ideally, the joint operation of both superpowers to save the monarchy. There was order and prosperity in Afghanistan when the king ruled. However, it was necessary to start even earlier - to prevent the Islamic revolution from being defeated in Iran, to crush similar riots in Arabia, preserving their course towards modernization.