Turkish weather vane. United Front of Washington and Ankara

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The aggravation of the situation in the Syrian province of Idlib puts the Middle East at risk of an even more serious conflict. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan sprinkles undisguised threats against Syria. It came to direct clashes between the Syrian and Turkish military. There have been two of them lately: February 3 and 10. As stated in the capital of Turkey, in response to attacks on 115 Syrian targets and dozens of ATS soldiers were killed.

Blows and ultimatums


Erdogan accuses official Damascus of killing civilians in Idlib province (which, however, has long been a tradition) and of killing at least 14 and injuring 45 Turkish army personnel. And also - in the desire ... to liberate the territory of the above province (what a terrible accusation: the Syrian army wants to free the Syrian lands!)



Moreover, the insinuations of Ankara are addressed not only to the neighboring long-suffering country, but also to Russia - they say, she also takes part in attacks on the civilian population of Idlib.

Erdogan threatens that he intends to bring down any aircraft, which, in his opinion, will attack the settlements of the Syrian province. In addition, he does not exclude attacks on the positions of the Syrian army and outside the de-escalation zone. In fact, the point is that the Turkish leader would like to carry out direct aggression against any Syrian city, including Damascus.

We will act. Until the end of February, we will force the regime’s forces to leave the zone defined by the Sochi agreement. They should know that they will be attacked, even if their attacks will be carried out all the borders of the Sochi agreement.

Such threats come from the mouth of Erdogan. He claims that his country tried to act “within the framework of the Sochi agreements”, but other parties are not keeping their word.

Turkey and USA together again


As you know, at the negotiations between Russia, Iran and Turkey in the framework of the Astana format in May 2017, it was possible to agree on the creation of four “de-escalation zones”. However, constant attacks by terrorists forced the SAR army to stop provocations and liberate territories from which shelling of peaceful settlements was too often carried out. Since then, only one de-escalation zone has remained - the Idlib. It also includes some territories of the provinces of Hama, Aleppo and Latakia.

In September 2018, an agreement on Idlib was concluded between the Russian Federation and Turkey. It was decided that 12 Turkish observation posts would be deployed in the Idlib de-escalation zone. Ankara blames Damascus for the deaths of its military men, who served at these points. It is silent at the same time that it itself does not comply with its obligations to disarm the terrorists in the province.

Moreover, Turkey, forgetting about past differences with the United States, seeks help there. Thus, the Minister of Defense of this country, Hulusi Akar, said that he was waiting for "concrete support" from the United States and NATO.

Meanwhile, the Syrian army, despite heavy losses, is confidently liberating the territory of Idlib province. In particular, the strategically important city of Sarakib was taken under control.

All the hysteria raised by Erdogan has the goal of preventing the final defeat of terrorist groups in Syrian territory. Which is not surprising. Only occasionally, in negotiations with Russia, the Turkish leadership uses peacekeeping rhetoric, and in between the talks Ankara threatens Damascus with terrible punishments.

And it’s okay if you just threatened. But we are talking about direct support for the militants. In this light, the death of the Turkish military looks like a deliberate provocation - to deliberately expose them to attack the Syrian positions, put ultimatums and seek support from the US and NATO.

What position the Alliance will take is not even a matter of guessing. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg at a press conference condemned Syria for "brutal use of violence" and "monstrous attacks on the civilian population." Nothing new - the same expressions, with deliberate escalation of emotions, are heard throughout the Syrian conflict, starting in 2011. And since 2015, the West has also been pushing for the fact that Russia, supporting Damascus, is also guilty of this “brutal violence”.

Do not differ in originality and the United States. Thus, Kay Bailey Hutchison, the Permanent Representative of this country to NATO, assured Turkey of her support. And the State Department’s special envoy for Syria, James Jeffrey, said during a trip to Ankara that Russia and Syria were threatening Turkish forces in Idlib!

As soon as the defeat of terrorist groups in Idlib province became real, it was as if past differences had ceased between Washington and Ankara. They again act as a united front.

The position of Syria and Russia


The Syrian Foreign Ministry reiterated that the Turkish military are in the country illegally.

The Turkish regime bears full responsibility for the consequences of this presence,

- said in a statement by the foreign ministry, and also stated that the army of the SAR will continue to fulfill constitutional duties to combat terrorism.

As for Russia, the Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova during a briefing accused Ankara of violating the Sochi memorandum, as well as of the transfer to the territory of Syria (and Libya) of terrorist groups.

The whole question is whether it will be possible to save the notorious Astana format. Judging by the situation, it bursts at the seams, and all the efforts of three years can go to landfill. However, Zakharova expressed cautious optimism:

We expect that in the coming period, Russian and Turkish representatives will continue to work to develop a comprehensive solution to the Idlib problem.

The main question remains: how to calm the raging Turkish "Sultan" and is this even possible? So far, you can see that all the friendly steps taken by Moscow in his direction - both the actual forgiveness of the death of the Russian pilot Oleg Peshkov, and the rescue of Erdogan from an attempted coup in July 2016, and cooperation in the supply of military equipment - were not appreciated. No matter how much you feed Erdogan, he still looks towards Washington and NATO.
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  1. +35
    13 February 2020 15: 04
    I do not understand what the "one" hoped for, who decided to sit on this "weather vane" through "tributes" and unilateral concessions.
    1. +11
      13 February 2020 15: 09
      It is difficult to answer unambiguously. probably on some promises of Erdogan ... maybe something else ...
      1. +16
        13 February 2020 15: 16
        probably for some promises of Erdogan

        Who, if not "our" ^ Roskomnadzor ^, know the true, penny, price of promises.
    2. +25
      13 February 2020 15: 09
      The same question arose when the Russian government recognized the legitimate ones as a protector.
      1. +10
        13 February 2020 15: 27
        The same question arose when the Russian government recognized the legitimate ones as a protector.

        The "owners" urgently need the "People's Property" seized from the "bad citizens" to be put on the "stream", "so as not to be lost." request
    3. +3
      13 February 2020 15: 30
      The main question remains: how to calm the raging Turkish "Sultan" and is this even possible?

      Summer in front - one, even two, to revise the gas supply agreement - three, raise prices for arms and service sold - four. Something like that for a start ...
      1. +22
        13 February 2020 15: 49
        Summer in front - one, even two, to revise the gas supply agreement - three, raise prices for arms and service sold - four.

        The "Sultan" will quite easily send Roskomnadzor to a certain place with a pipe, a nuclear power plant, and weapons. Everything is on credit ... And then the arbitration of some dwarf country will "stimulate" in Russia another increase in the retirement age and new extortions. And the Turks will have F-35s, Patriots, Turkmen gas and nuclear power plants "for free" ... at our expense.
        Something like that for a start ...

        The "Syrian express" will stop, and the "expanded delegation" of NATO ships and others like them will enter the Black Sea, on the contrary.
        1. +9
          13 February 2020 16: 10
          Quote: lexus
          And the Turks will have F-35s, Patriots, Turkmen gas and nuclear power plants "for free" ... at our expense.

          Like Ukraine pulled out of us a few lards of our money ... Sadly ... what
          1. +12
            13 February 2020 16: 27
            In a "foreign monastery" it makes sense to wave your "charter" only when you have captured it, and not come with "alms". Otherwise, the rules must be learned and known. Obviously, such "options" are not included with the purchased and "honorary" diplomas. Hence the "successes". request
      2. +4
        13 February 2020 16: 38
        Quote: Starover_Z
        revise the gas supply agreement - three; raise the prices of weapons and services sold - four.


        I suppose you want to unilaterally? To prepare for the courts now?
        1. +4
          13 February 2020 20: 32
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: Starover_Z
          revise the gas supply agreement - three; raise the prices of weapons and services sold - four.


          I suppose you want to unilaterally? To prepare for the courts now?

          Yes, how many copies have already been broken for such reasons - how many years there has been a "fashion" for training lawyers throughout SyNeGe, but what's the use ?! What goat-horns make up international treaties and sign that Russia constantly finds itself "in the fools" and pays everyone ?! When will this stop ?!
    4. +18
      13 February 2020 16: 04
      I don't understand what the "one" hoped for,


      But such a joy was - pulling Turkey out of NATO, the end of NATO, the northern animal came to NATO, hurray tomatoes, sell them C 700 and they beat American planes, defend themselves from Americans, etc., etc. Several people said - Yes, please, take the Turks to your health and were mercilessly mussed into a thin pancake ... laughing
    5. +8
      13 February 2020 16: 15
      Wow! Already a former friend of the murdered Russian pilot was called a Führer! How is it, friendship forever, tomatoes, nuclear power plants and all that. And the reasonable people who were here at the VO warned that the Sultan would sell the patriots minus! Praised Putin's mind and tactics! So where is all this?
    6. +12
      13 February 2020 16: 41
      Quote: lexus
      I don't understand what the "one" hoped for, who decided to sit on this "weather vane"

      laughing on your mind, cunning, greatness and lack thereof of the opponent
      1. +8
        13 February 2020 16: 55
        "Blessed is he who believes, warmth in the world!"
        (C) “Woe from Wit,” a comedy in verse, A.S. Griboedov


        Option 2 in explaining the meaning of the expression - to the point! good
        1. +7
          18 February 2020 21: 23
          Yes, and the first option is also at the top ..
  2. +11
    13 February 2020 15: 07
    Erdogan, smelling blood and supporting NATO, will strike at Syria. Now only Russia is able to stop the Turks. How will we act in this situation? It will take literally one or two days to negotiate a division of Syria or strike a blow at pro Turkish militants.
  3. -1
    13 February 2020 15: 14
    It's time to convene the UN Security Council - the mustachioed has a lot of friends.
  4. Eug
    +13
    13 February 2020 15: 20
    But Turkish Kurds can not be encouraged quite a bit?
    1. +2
      14 February 2020 04: 30
      I think the time has come when the Kurds are not only "allowed" but should be encouraged!
  5. +6
    13 February 2020 15: 28
    Erdogan forgot about the opposition inside Turkey. Coups can be carried out not only by the United States.
  6. +7
    13 February 2020 15: 34
    How would you not get a full-fledged war in exchange for tomatoes ... I really would not want to.
  7. +21
    13 February 2020 15: 37
    Twenty five again. Erdogan is again a treacherous enemy sticking knives into the back of the Russian Federation, and not a Trojan horse in NATO. I'm tired of laughing. However, it would be funny if it were not so scary.
    How many more lives and means will burn in this enchantingly senseless war, even from the point of view of the capitalist RF ...
    Meanwhile, the talented geopolitical leadership has led us to the prospect of a conflict with Belarus as well. About the Russian people who are being shot in the Donbass as a dash, I’m not saying that they are all spit out for a long time. More precisely, they are now seen as guest workers who must solve the extinction problem RF
  8. -5
    13 February 2020 15: 41
    Remember the Sultan ... then you took off easily, but it will hurt to fall ...
  9. +4
    13 February 2020 15: 45
    As if. in foreseeable future . I didn’t have to agree with Gulen.
  10. +8
    13 February 2020 15: 56
    What will overcome our leadership, the thirst for gas dollars or the Life of our Soldiers?
  11. -2
    13 February 2020 15: 57
    Quote: Red
    Erdogan, smelling blood and supporting NATO, will strike at Syria. Now only Russia is able to stop the Turks. How will we act in this situation? It will take literally one or two days to negotiate a division of Syria or strike a blow at pro Turkish militants.

    More terrible than the ground operation, this is an air operation .. The air defense should work (it seems it’s still working, but it’s not until the end) so that the soldiers are sure that there will be no threat from the sky. A soldier .. A soldier must be sure, not even sure (so that such thoughts do not occur) that the outcome of the battle / war will depend on the negotiations, or rather, how the battle or conflict should end, the war .. And who is negotiating with whom how they end, what it leads to, everyone knows.
  12. -1
    13 February 2020 16: 03
    A song from the movie - There is no turning back. You yourself have chosen a hard share -
    Going into the unknown, through the gray field
    The last bullet, the last dawn -
    There is no turning back - no, no, no.

    Who knows what will be around that bend?
    What if he whips a machine gun right in the heart?
    But dry lips repeat like a covenant -
    There is no turning back - no, no, no!

    And if you stay, and if you return?
    Friends will say - scared, friends will turn away!
    You made a decision - and the answer is clear:
    There is no turning back. No no no!
  13. +9
    13 February 2020 16: 03
    What Putin was hoping for was not clear, did they really think that Erdogash would be gassed up with tourists, such a bark stood on all the central channels, plug your ears - yelled all the main heralds of the country, that Turkey is about to leave NATO, Turkey has almost announced jihad The United States, and here you are - again the enemies of the Turks, and Turkey again with amers and NATO. Lord, as much as you can already - the enemy is the enemy
  14. +1
    13 February 2020 16: 05
    [/ quote] No matter how much you feed Erdogan, he still looks towards Washington and NATO. [quote]

    Erdogan looks only in his direction. This is clear, as God's day. Weather vane. He and in turkey flukher.
    1. +8
      13 February 2020 16: 33
      Quote: unsinkable
      Weathervane.on and in turretchu fluHer.


      If he looks in his direction, then he is no longer a weather vane. Weather vane has the ability to change its position depending on the wind
  15. +7
    13 February 2020 16: 19
    Well, again, tourists, tomatoes and fruits. Last time it was enough. Yes, there are still Kurds and their Workers' Party.
  16. +5
    13 February 2020 16: 22
    Many "irreplaceable" need small victorious wars, so that the plebs would choke with euphoria ...
  17. -7
    13 February 2020 16: 27
    But I ask you all, where are the liquidators? There is no president, no problems !!!!
  18. +10
    13 February 2020 16: 32
    Time put everything in its place: there is a pipe, the S-300 has been received, you can also “open the face”
  19. +2
    13 February 2020 16: 37
    Erdogan stupefied in the attack. and why laurels is silent. Piston Osana insert or partnership interferes
  20. +4
    13 February 2020 17: 16
    The sultan is on horseback. Russia is on a leash. The gas pipeline through Turkey has been pumped up billions. It is necessary to beat back money. The second question is: how long will Assad hold out if the Turks interrupt the "Syrian express". Airplanes cannot be filled, and transport aviation is now a pale shadow of what the USSR had at its disposal.
    Therefore, the Turks and the greyhounds, their position is stronger.
    1. +3
      13 February 2020 20: 18
      Quote: alekc73
      .Second question: how long will Assad hold out if the Turks interrupt the "Syrian Express"

      few.
      Quote: alekc73
      Therefore, the Turks and the greyhounds, their position is stronger.

      namely, especially
      Quote: alekc73
      Russia on a leash.
  21. -8
    13 February 2020 17: 31
    Eric Ottoman apparently forgot how NATO tucked its tail when he shot down our Su-24 and was waiting for an answer. An eccentric letter M, because once in a while it doesn’t have to, GDP certainly has nerves of steel and considers it for years to come, but it can set an example for others.
  22. +6
    13 February 2020 17: 36

    The aggravation of the situation in the Syrian province of Idlib puts the Middle East at risk of an even more serious conflict. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan sprinkles undisguised threats against Syria. It came to direct clashes between the Syrian and Turkish military. There have been two of them lately: February 3 and 10. As stated in the capital of Turkey, in response to attacks on 115 Syrian targets and dozens of ATS soldiers were killed.
    This is a consequence of the mediocre policy of the Russian Federation - from the very beginning of the "game of friendship" with Janissary it was clear how this would end ... sad
  23. +6
    13 February 2020 17: 59
    So far, you can see that all the friendly steps taken by Moscow in his direction - both the actual forgiveness of the death of the Russian pilot Oleg Peshkov, and the rescue of Erdogan from an attempted coup in July 2016, and cooperation in the supply of military equipment - were not appreciated.
    No matter how much you feed Erdogan, he still looks towards Washington and NATO.

    / Elena Gromova /


    History does not teach anything, but only punishes for ignorance of the lessons
    / Vasily Osipovich Klyuchevsky /


    For it is said -

  24. +1
    13 February 2020 20: 05
    Read all the comments and be stunned
    We spoke! We told you so!
    Many simply do not understand what their GDP represents.
    And the way he thinks.
    And the one who advises him.
    And from where the information draws.

    But not everything is so important what is listed, but what matters is that the final decision is made by the GDP itself.
    Therefore, all responsibility lies with him.

    But take and remember 2007.
    Munich city.
    And how our GDP began to split into the harmonious ranks of Western "partners" to bring confusion and disobedience.
    How to push to rebellion. As appealed to the mind.

    Stunned all.
    And in 2008 there was a conflict in Ossetia.
    Misha broke from the chain.
    Or lowered?

    But the trigger was our GDP.
    With an open visor, he pressed himself into the camp of the enemies and laid all his cards on their table.
    Thinking that they will listen and listen to him there.
    And how it turned out.

    So with the rest of his steps.
    We all think (I personally thought so earlier) that GDP is a very experienced and talented politician who is looking ahead for a few moves.
    And he lives by the rule - get into a fight, and then we'll see.

    Now we will watch.
    1. 0
      13 February 2020 22: 30
      GDP only provides stable power to the ruling class no more
  25. +7
    13 February 2020 20: 18
    When you sit on two chairs, do not be surprised that they will be studded with nails. Another excellent "partner" was found by the "guarantor" in the person of Erdogan.
  26. +4
    13 February 2020 20: 21
    No matter how much you feed Erdogan, he still looks towards Washington and NATO.
    Erdogan looks towards the Ottoman Empire. Uses everyone who is comfortable with him at the moment. A sort of level 80 Lukashenko. The question is how long can he play like that.
  27. +6
    13 February 2020 21: 28
    The Sultan is an enemy that inspires respect. The Sultan is building his Turkish empire. Builds it smartly, wisely. At the same time, it pours our Russian blood. Well, he is the enemy. He is supposed to.
    The main questions should be to these oligarchic beings for whom the most important thing is to pump out and sell the resources of Russia. Anyone and whatever. Turks, Sinies, Martians, any ghouls. Get loot for it and take it to the West, where their children, wives, grandchildren, and granddaughters live.
    And this is a bare historical fact. Whatever smoke curtains and snot he covered.
  28. 0
    13 February 2020 21: 44
    Getting into a fight is VERY easy. Most likely the victory will be ours. Some losses and blood. But HIGHEST PILOT - This is to liberate ALL Syria and DO NOT quarrel with the Sultan, to LEAVE him in partner allies. Will it succeed? Will watch.
    1. -3
      13 February 2020 22: 32
      This is impossible because he has his own interest in Idlib.
  29. 0
    13 February 2020 22: 11
    Erdogan is a "strategic katala", not a "weathervane". In general, the game goes on for a long time (far beyond the term of the presidency). It seems that Peskov spoke of "strategic patience" ("God endured, and he told us to").
  30. +1
    14 February 2020 00: 38
    Now another of our ambassadors will be killed, what's next on the list, the plane, then the ship
  31. +1
    14 February 2020 04: 57
    I’m just wondering what benefits Erdogan has on the scales, in the event of a conflict with Russia, in order to draw on existing profits?
    After all, the transfer of troops to Idlib, and their contents already cost him a pretty penny if the Turkish soldiers continue to die, this is an increase in discontent in the country, can break off with the sale of its agricultural products to Russia, and also lose our tourists, well, etc. ?? ?
  32. +1
    14 February 2020 06: 09
    Zakharova expressed cautious optimism:
    We expect that in the coming period, Russian and Turkish representatives will continue to work to develop a comprehensive solution to the Idlib problem.

    Well done Zakharova! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
    Appreciate the subtlest reckoning for continuation of our government!
    The Turks are already planting the doors with butts, and we all persuade them and sing the song "Hope is my earthly compass"!
    1. 0
      14 February 2020 18: 36
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      Zakharova expressed cautious optimism:
      We expect that in the coming period, Russian and Turkish representatives will continue to work to develop a comprehensive solution to the Idlib problem.

      Well done Zakharova! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
      Appreciate the subtlest reckoning for continuation of our government!
      The Turks are already planting the doors with butts, and we all persuade them and sing the song "Hope is my earthly compass"!

      If a "comprehensive solution" is not found, the Ministry of Truth will have to turn its rhetoric 180 degrees. The Sultan is bad. A knife in the back ... and so on, on, on. And we are "at war with Westasia" again.
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  34. +3
    14 February 2020 08: 34
    And no one poured them. You just have to look at everything with your eyes washed.
  35. +3
    14 February 2020 08: 35
    Well, they quarreled, quarreled .. Why did we believe?
  36. +4
    14 February 2020 08: 38
    America lifted a number of sanctions against Turkey. It became profitable for them, a kind of encouragement from the Washington Regional Committee.
  37. +4
    14 February 2020 08: 42
    Germany also lifted sanctions against Turkey for the purchase of German weapons. It seems that they were preparing for this. Sanctions are not lifted for no reason without discussion.
  38. 0
    15 February 2020 07: 43
    I don’t think that our relations with Turkey will change. Too much has been invested in these relations. On the other hand, we will reject all fantasies about the southern partner.
    1. 0
      19 February 2020 15: 17
      Quote: nikvic46
      On the other hand, we will drop all fantasies about the southern partner.

      Here you and I can fantasize as much as you like - nothing depends on us. But if those who define goals, formulate goals, fantasize, and then find themselves unable to provide their solution, then in view of the failure to achieve their goals, the organization will go bankrupt. Do you know which one?