The media reported the date of relocation of the floating launch site "Sea Launch"

The relocation of the Sea Launch floating spaceport from the US port of Long Beach in California to the Russian Far East will begin on February 22. It is reported by RIA News with reference to a source in the rocket and space industry.

According to the source, the floating spaceport will be moved to the Slavyansk Shipyard in Primorye, where necessary repairs and modernization will take place. Further, it was planned to make the Sea Launch space center, consisting of the Odyssey launch platform and the Sea Launch control ship, Sovetskaya Gavan a permanent place of deployment.

The press service of the S7 group, which owns the complex, did not comment on this information.

In early December last year, the media wrote that the US State Department had given permission to move the complex to the Russian coast. In order to prepare the Odyssey launch platform for relocation and obtain permission for transportation, all American and Ukrainian equipment was dismantled from it, which is not critical, since the main "filling" is Russian.

The international Sea Launch company appeared in 1995 with the participation of the Russian RSC Energia, the American Boeing company, the Norwegian Kvärner, as well as the Ukrainian enterprises of the Yuzhnoye and Yuzhmash design bureaus, which produced the Zenit rocket for the cosmodrome 3SL ", the only one adapted for launch from a marine spaceport. A total of 36 launches were made, of which 33 were successful.

In 2014, the last missile was launched, as Russia stopped supplying components for rocket production, including RD-171 rocket engines, to Ukraine.

S7 Space has terminated the contract with the Ukrainian enterprise Yuzhmash for the production of 12 Zenit launch vehicles for launches from the platform as part of the Sea Launch program.

At the end of January this year, the Russian Progress Rocket and Space Center announced its readiness to start creating a missile for the Sea Launch as soon as S7 Space can afford it.

To start work, "Progress" has all the technical capabilities

- said the head of the state corporation "Roskosmos" Dmitry Rogozin.

Comments

[Maestro Alexander]

It seems to me that this "Sea Launch" from the American port of Long Beach is a "sent Cossack" ... It is necessary for the responsible "persons" to take a closer look at it

[Galleon]

The decision to transfer this platform to Sovgavan is the decision to send this project to sediment. In Sovgavan, there are practically no railway lines suitable for piers - this is only in the Vanino port. If this colossus is put somewhere on the pier of the former BOR, for example - (the ocean fishing base, now ravaged), this will only mean drunkenness, slow rusting and dying. The only plus is the absence of typhoons, where they are weakened by rain. But for the active use of this colossus, the purpose of Sovgavan is not her place.

[denplot]

I think the situation has been thought out and the appropriate infrastructure will be developed. As an option, public-private partnership.

[bessmertniy]

Does Sea Launch have much resource left? Of course, the shipyard will patch it up. But there is a question - how many new launches will it last, and how is the economy "friendly" with these launches?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Galleon

If this colossus is put somewhere on the pier

No one will launch a rocket from the pier.

There are almost no railways in Sovgavan

Missiles on this platform were delivered by sea. And you can upload them to ships in any port.

[Galleon]

Quote: Piramidon

No one will launch a rocket from the pier.

Is anyone going to launch a rocket from a pier? It's about the possibility of handling bulk cargo. Yes, and the tunnels will not allow oversize to be transported to Sovgavan - either along the BAM or along the Trans-Siberian Railway. There are no tunnels from Khabarovsk to Sovgavan, except through the Amur.

Quote: Piramidon

And you can upload them to ships in any port.

You can download to Vanino, there the port is live. There is no certainty about Sovgavani.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Galleon

Quote: Piramidon

No one will launch a rocket from the pier.

Is anyone going to launch a rocket from a pier? It's about the possibility of handling bulk cargo. Yes, and the tunnels will not allow oversize to be transported to Sovgavan - either along the BAM or along the Trans-Siberian Railway. There are no tunnels from Khabarovsk to Sovgavan, except through the Amur.

Quote: Piramidon

And you can upload them to ships in any port.

You can download to Vanino, there the port is live. There is no certainty about Sovgavani.

Well, can you really not understand that Sovgavan is not a basing place where this platform should be at the pier, but a home port. And you are already trying to paint for us that she has nowhere to moor (there are few rails) and load with spacecraft (the moorings do not allow). But it is possible to upload components of missiles and send them to this platform not only in Vanino, but also in Murmansk, Arkhangelsk, Novorossiysk ... But we don’t have ports except Sovgavan in the country

[Galleon]

Quote: Piramidon

can you really not understand that Sovgavan is not a basing place where this platform should stand at the pier, but a home port

Further, it was planned to make Sovetskaya Gavan, Sovetskaya Gavan, the permanent location of the Sea Launch cosmodrome, which consists of the Odyssey launch platform and the Sea Launch control ship.

Did you read the message or immediately started arguing with me? This is not a home port. The home port would be easiest to designate Monrovia - there are less taxes at times. I also see the place of permanent deployment as somewhat ridiculous, and I gave my arguments.

Quote: Piramidon

But it is possible to load components of missiles and send them to this platform not only in Vanino, but also in Murmansk, Arkhangelsk, Novorossiysk ... But we don’t have ports except Sovgavan in the country

In fact of the matter! I will not repeat myself. You can take a look at my comments on the dimensions and railway tunnels. What are we arguing with you about? there is no dispute - there is your misunderstanding.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Galleon

Is anyone going to launch a rocket from a pier?

Well, why did you yourself then cling to these piers? Your comment, or will you deny it?

If this colossus put somewhere on the pier former BOR, for example - (ocean fishing base, now ruined)

You will decide what you mean by this your "shove"

[Galleon]

Listen, Pyramidon, the Sovgavan port is characterized by the fact that it does not have railways, and for such a platform its choice as a permanent base is somewhat strange. It’s possible to moor this platform near the wall there, but it’s the same as shoving something into a thing that is unnecessary so far. The choice of Sovgavani as a base indicates the absence of close plans for the use of this offshore platform, which confirms the absence of missiles for launches.
So see?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Galleon

Listen, Pyramidon, the Sovgavan port is characterized by the fact that it does not have railways, and for such a platform its choice as a permanent base is somewhat strange. It’s possible to moor this platform near the wall there, but it’s the same as shoving something into a thing that is unnecessary so far. The choice of Sovgavani as a base indicates the absence of close plans for the use of this offshore platform, which confirms the absence of missiles for launches.
So see?

Listen to Galleon, who told you that they were going to moor at the pier in Sovgavan and that rocket components would be brought there by rail? This is purely your imagination.

[Mityay65]

The Odyssey platform was originally designed so that it would constantly be at the launch point of the Zenith LV in the equatorial region of the Pacific Ocean. She receives all supplies and repairs in the ocean, without going into port for years. And they moved her to Long Beach when they realized that Zenit was covered.
Now the "Odyssey" will be brought to the port for refurbishment. And as I understand it, it is not very difficult - replacing the docking nodes of pipelines and service hoses, partly fueling equipment and a support ring for the launch vehicle, some lodges, etc.
And the threat of drunkenness to the team, certainly significant, threatens in any port, with the presence of idleness. The case of the start-up and the boatswain is to take care of the team with a useful thing, for example, preparation for the tug of war championship

[orionvitt]

Quote: Galleon

The only plus is the lack of typhoons,

Actually, I always thought that the "sea launch", and for this reason, I thought to move the launch point closer to the equator. since Russia itself does not have convenient spaceports on its territory (from the point of view of the combination of the carrier payload to fuel efficiency).

it was planned to make the Sea Launch cosmodrome permanent location, consisting of the Odyssey launch platform and the Sea Launch command ship, Sovetskaya Gavan

[John_f]

Good day! I still think that the S7 knows what it’s doing, and after the repair, the SL will reach the equator latitudes and will launch with new missiles. at least I want to believe it)

[Cowbra]

The idea is good. only as a private trader - it will not "take off" - the lobby will crush. In general, launching from the sea and near the Equator removes many problems. True, nothing heavy can be started from there anyway

[Pavel57]

Private traders without a lobby do not work.

[Mountain shooter]

S7 is a private company. The squandering is not seen. Therefore, it has a business plan, not unprofitable.
This is good news. They are radically different from the news of the recent past, such as - the next enterprise has closed ...

[Blackmokona]

S7 planned to start launches at Sea Launch at the end of 2018. Now it’s already the beginning of 2020, and the start of launches has gone far into the future

[askort154]

The international company Sea Launch was established in 1995 with the participation of the Russian RSC Energia, the American Boeing company, the Norwegian Kvyarner, as well as the Ukrainian enterprises Yuzhnoye and Yuzhmash KB ...

1995! America is with us! The drunk president of Russia leads the orchestra, dancing a twist. All doors and safes of the military-industrial complex of the USSR (Russia) are open. I am ashamed to recall what they went through. And they might not have taxied.

[rocket757]

Everything is very strange, incomprehensible ... but is there a need for this?
Okay, wait, we'll see.

[Lamata]

Or maybe they will try to do something traveling?

[Dzafdet]

Interestingly, PLCs are there alive? Or do they need to be changed too?

[Lamata]

That’s why they minded you)))))))))))))))) for the neutral question.

[Old26]

Quote: Maestro Alexander

It seems to me that this "Sea Launch" from the American port of Long Beach is a "sent Cossack" ... It is necessary for the responsible "persons" to take a closer look at it

And some need not to make irresponsible statements

Quote: rocket757

Everything is very strange, incomprehensible ... but is there a need for this?
Okay, wait, we'll see.

There is. Running from the equator is more profitable

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Galleon

The decision to transfer this platform to Sovgavan is the decision to send this project to sediment. In Sovgavan, there are practically no railway lines suitable for piers - this is only in the Vanino port. If this colossus is put somewhere on the pier of the former BOR, for example - (the ocean fishing base, now ravaged), this will only mean drunkenness, slow rusting and dying. The only plus is the absence of typhoons, where they are weakened by rain. But for the active use of this colossus, the purpose of Sovgavan is not her place.

An interesting assumption is that the Sea Launch will be charged from transport via railways from Ukraine to the United States. And those 36 starts were with just such a transport. Somehow it’s not clever to ask, but why the hell to do a MARINE start with railway transportation of launch vehicles? Can't you ride the sea paths?
Further. The ship’s home port is not at all the same as its travel route. Launch rockets from the Vanino port ..... Damn, I would never have guessed this. I would, by simplicity of my heart, take this steamboat to the open sea, to a point that gives me the advantages of a SEA launch, so that the routes of take-off missiles do not pass over cities and provide the most favorable flight orbit.

[Galleon]

Quote: Victor March 47

Launch rockets from the Vanino port ..... Damn, I would never have guessed this.

I think no one is going to do this - the platform is needed for equatorial waters, within 5 degrees of latitude back and forth from the equator.

Quote: Victor March 47

Somehow it’s not clever to ask, but why the hell to do a MARINE start with railway transportation of launch vehicles? Can't you ride the sea paths?

Victor, it’s possible by sea paths - but it turns out in half the world. If your Transib, why swim around? Then there comes a restriction on the overall width and height, and accordingly on the size and carrying capacity of the launch vehicles. Or any elephant and mastodon across 3 oceans and Suez. Is it logical?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Old26

Running from the equator is more profitable

This is not the most important thing. It is more important to have an inclination of the orbit with such parameters that it would be visible on Earth exactly what we would like. And without a horizontal maneuver that takes away a bunch of fuel, which you can’t take into orbit a lot. Yes, and a light launch vehicle.

[Dikson]

But can’t it be delivered to Venezuela or Cuba? The meaning of the entire project was the inlets from the Equator region ... And it will turn out the same East, just East ...

[Lexus]

Oh, it's hard work -
From the swamp, drag the hippopotamus!
(C) "Telephone", a poem, K.I. Chukovsky

From redeploying the platform to working as intended, launching a domestic launch vehicle, "like Beijing with cancer." And then, you never know, there will be "some" fire or drowning, leading to the bankruptcy of an unnamed insurance company.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Galleon

Quote: Victor March 47

Launch rockets from the Vanino port ..... Damn, I would never have guessed this.

I think no one is going to do this - the platform is needed for equatorial waters, within 5 degrees of latitude back and forth from the equator.

Quote: Victor March 47

Somehow it’s not clever to ask, but why the hell to do a MARINE start with railway transportation of launch vehicles? Can't you ride the sea paths?

Victor, it’s possible by sea paths - but it turns out in half the world. If your Transib, why swim around? Then there comes a restriction on the overall width and height, and accordingly on the size and carrying capacity of the launch vehicles. Or any elephant and mastodon across 3 oceans and Suez. Is it logical?

And how to bring a cigar in .... tons from the same Saratov, the place of manufacture to the offshore platform, which is at the starting point? An amusing thing is to drive this monster, with a displacement of ten to twenty times more than a transport vessel, bringing it to the place of loading at the port. What does the northern sea route have to do with it? By land, by almost a straight line, of course. there are steam locomotives, and there is a transport ship to the starting point. On which you can throw it all at least in Nakhodka, at least in Vladivostok, at least in Simferopol.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Dikson

But can’t it be delivered to Venezuela or Cuba? The meaning of the entire project was the inlets from the Equator region ... And it will turn out the same East, just East ...

And what, launches will always be from these points? In the year of such launches there will be units, everything is limited by the possibilities of manufacturing equipment - missiles, ships, satellites and other things. But the money to pay for parking, care, security and feeding the crew do an indefinite number of years, and in the distance, in the middle of nowhere.
Isn’t it easier to drive the start there, and then, when necessary, storing and repairing it at its base, on its shore. The start-up organization is a predictable business, well-known in advance, and spending a week or two weeks on driving is much easier than keeping it in Cuba. This, after all, is not only the installation of the launch itself to the point. This is the installation of relay vessels on points. This is bringing satellites to readiness. This is such a block of all works, before which this distillation is a glass of seeds.

[Old26]

Quote: Victor March 47

An interesting assumption is that the Sea Launch will be charged from transport via railways from Ukraine to the United States. And those 36 starts were with just such a transport. Somehow it’s not clever to ask, but why the hell to do a MARINE start with railway transportation of launch vehicles? Can't you ride the sea paths?

Well, in principle, this is not an assumption, but a fragment of the technological chain. The rocket is manufactured at the manufacturer, then by rail the rocket stages are delivered to the port and loaded onto the SCS (assembly-command ship). There, the rocket is assembled, a test cycle is conducted, and the upper stage is refueled. Then the launch platform and the assembly command ship arrive at the launch point, where the rocket is reloaded from the SCS to the joint venture, raising it to the vertical position, refueling, and as a finishing touch - launch. So in any case, the presence of the railway MANDATORY.

Quote: Victor March 47

Further. The ship’s home port is not at all the same as its travel route. Launch rockets from the Vanino port ..... Damn, I would never have guessed this. I would, by simplicity of my heart, take this steamboat to the open sea, to a point that gives me the advantages of a SEA launch, so that the routes of take-off missiles do not pass over cities and provide the most favorable flight orbit.

In addition, comrade Andrei (Galleon) did not say that they would be allowed to enter from the Vanino port. He only said that there are no railway links to the pier in Sovgavan. In addition, for example, I heard that the complex will be based in the port of Slavyanka. And the starting point is the Pacific Ocean at the point with coordinates 0 ° 00 ′ s. w. 154 ° 00 ′ s village, near Christmas Island.