The failure of Kramp-Karrenbauer to run for chancellor of Germany called the "political earthquake"


The man who has been called “the next German Chancellor of Germany” over the past few months unexpectedly leaves his post as head of the German CDU party. This is a party from which at one time Angela Merkel was repeatedly nominated for the post of chancellor of Germany. And the name of the person we spoke about at the beginning is Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, who still holds the post of head of the German defense department.


Spiegel magazine calls the situation in which Kramp-Karrenbauer leaves the post of head of the CDU and refuses to run for chancellor after the expiration of Angela Merkel’s term, “a political earthquake in the camp of Christian Democrats.” Other German publications speak not only of the CDU camp, but of the whole of Germany, noting that the situation looks sensational and can lead to a political crisis.

Angela Merkel announced her “understanding” of the Kramp-Karrenbauer decision and asked her not to leave “at least the post of Minister of Defense”.

The departure from the main party post of a person who, in all circumstances, was to become the new chancellor of Germany, is associated with events in the federal state of Thuringia. There, the CDU, together with the Alternative for Germany party, supported the candidate from liberal forces, Thomas Kemmerich, by a majority of votes. Some political scientists in Berlin called it the "conspiracy" of the CDU with the extreme right, noting that a real split was identified in the CDU.
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  1. svp67 10 February 2020 16: 14 New
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    The man who has been called “the next German Chancellor of Germany” over the past few months unexpectedly leaves his post as head of the German CDU party.
    This is the trick ... And what will the Angel do now? Who will now give the reins of government?
    1. denplot 10 February 2020 16: 17 New
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      Sarah Wagenknecht, it would be nice
      1. svp67 10 February 2020 16: 18 New
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        Quote: denplot
        Sarah Wagenknecht, it would be nice

        No, she’s from the “lepers" Angel definitely doesn’t trust anything
        1. Varyag_0711 10 February 2020 16: 46 New
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          svp67 (Sergey)
          No, she’s from the “lepers" Angel definitely doesn’t trust anything
          Actually, Angela is unlikely to trust anyone at all, since the question of trust is certainly not decided in the Bundestag, but in a completely different place, on another continent. wink
      2. Varyag_0711 10 February 2020 16: 43 New
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        denplot (denis)
        Sarah Wagenknecht, it would be nice
        That is yes. Sarah Wagenknecht has a rare combination of mind and beauty for a woman in politics, and even a German!
        That's just to power it is really unlikely to be allowed. They would prefer to see any inadequacy, just to prevent the warming of relations between Germany and Russia. Because, both for the EU and for the West as a whole, the unification of the German technical potential with Russian resources, this is worse than Goethe’s “Faust”.
        1. ccsr 10 February 2020 19: 16 New
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          Quote: Varyag_0711
          Sarah Wagenknecht has a rare combination of mind and beauty for a woman in politics, and even a German!

          She is not German, but a German Jewess does not hide this. By the way, if we compare the appearance of the German Kramp-Karrenbauer and the German Jewess Sarah Wagenknekht, then the difference in type is striking - however, those who lived in Germany themselves know that the Germans in their majority are still scary ....
        2. Lelek 10 February 2020 23: 02 New
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          Quote: Varyag_0711
          Because, both for the EU and for the West as a whole, the unification of the German technical potential with Russian resources, this is worse than Goethe’s “Faust”.

          hi
          Well, about the EU and the West - it's overkill, but for poppies, dependent "Young Europeans" - yes. These will clearly click their heels in front of the "instructors" in Ottedov. In most countries of old Europe, voices are increasingly heard for lifting sanctions against the Russian Federation and forging partnerships with it. Oddly enough, the first swallow in this process was the "Englishwoman", forever spoiling us.

          There has been a long debate on this topic in Germany. Here is the latest performance in the Bundestag by Klaus Ernst:

          So, as said “tagged”: “the process has begun”, in small steps, but has begun.
          1. Vladimir Udovichenko 11 February 2020 07: 10 New
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            The quote you quoted is very similar to the cries of Lukashenko against Russia.
      3. DMB 75 10 February 2020 16: 51 New
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        Quote: denplot
        Sarah Wagenknecht, it would be nice

        It would be nice ...
        Sarah Wagenknecht, being the representative of the Left Party in the German Bundestag, did not restrain her emotions at all: “Poles! Have you forgotten who turned off your ovens in Auschwitz? Or you, fitting in for the Ukrainian Nazis, are looking for someone to remind you of how they operate ? "

        Clever girl ... And beautiful ..
        1. Operator 10 February 2020 16: 53 New
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          The left party of Germany, led by Sarah Wagenknecht, has long been time to unite with the "Alternative for Germany" laughing
          1. Lelek 10 February 2020 23: 12 New
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            Quote: Operator
            The left party of Germany, led by Sarah Wagenknecht, has long been time to unite with the "Alternative for Germany"

            hi
            The ADG has ties with the German ultra-right (read - the Nazis) and these ties are expanding from year to year. And metastases of Ukrainian, Polish and Baltic Natsik are woven into them. So that the "left" in Germany to unite almost nothing.
        2. Yaro Polk 10 February 2020 18: 33 New
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          This pretty girl is already 50 years old .... but she’s age, there are such people ...)
        3. iouris 10 February 2020 23: 14 New
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          Or smart or pretty. Highly high. And the last name is strange. And a husband from another party. In general, in the "democratic elections" the question of the Chancellor of Germany is not resolved. Trump will not approve. He definitely won the election. The Shas will begin: it will crush everyone together and singly, or "pay in kind."
        4. IL-18 11 February 2020 07: 13 New
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          Quote: DMB 75
          Clever girl ... And beautiful ..

          My wife is also half-half-Jewish. Just now, my anniversary was celebrated, so all my friends have been sending her compliments for the third day. And I only had two questions about my state of health the next day.
      4. Cowbra 10 February 2020 17: 01 New
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        And besides women, did they have any politicians left there? smile Well then, let them immediately put the Tumba Gretinberg, or whatever it is ...
      5. Lamata 10 February 2020 17: 36 New
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        It would be nice, but she won’t give up; she herself will pull for now. But the Germans have a powerful crisis. And women are dragged into power, and they freak out.
    2. figwam 10 February 2020 16: 17 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Who will now give the reins of government?

      I think the Americans have come up with everything for everyone.
      1. Sergey39 10 February 2020 16: 39 New
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        Quote: figvam
        I think Americans have come up with everything for everyone

        Yes, they should first of all change their patron.
        1. PSih2097 10 February 2020 18: 39 New
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          Quote: Sergey39
          Yes, they should first of all change their patron.

          along the way, we will soon put the T-72/80/90 on a pedestal on an equal footing with the T-34-85 ...
    3. PalBor 10 February 2020 16: 42 New
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      Angela will stay. She freaked out a little, now calmed down. Of course, I also love Sarah, but she will not be allowed into real power, alas.
      1. Sergey39 10 February 2020 16: 44 New
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        Quote: PalBor
        Angela will stay.

        Most likely this is what is going on.
        1. zloybond 10 February 2020 16: 52 New
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          It looks like they have an indispensable cap request
        2. Lamata 10 February 2020 18: 35 New
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          Only bu didn’t start to freak, as with multiculturalism
    4. kapitan92 10 February 2020 17: 00 New
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      Quote: svp67
      And what will Angela do now? Who will now give the reins of government?

      A holy place is never empty! laughing
  2. evgic 10 February 2020 16: 17 New
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    Angela Merkel announced her “understanding” of the Kramp-Karrenbauer decision and asked her not to leave “at least the post of Minister of Defense”.
    That's an irreplaceable specialist in the military field. How did the Bundeswehr go without it for so many years.
    1. svp67 10 February 2020 16: 21 New
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      Quote: evgic
      How did the Bundeswehr go without it for so many years.

      Yes, it’s bad, there was Frau before her, the mother of seven children, so she flunked everything, it came to the point that the German Chancellor, the first person in the state, was forced to fly to international meetings on Lufthansa planes, as the government’s Bundeswehr boards just made it worthless ... but for that the changing tables in each barracks appeared in the state. And this one seems to be trying.
      1. St Petrov 10 February 2020 16: 32 New
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        for that, changing tables in each barracks appeared in the state.


        more than half a thousand new aircraft have been received by the VKS since 2008, and these tables have mother tables in the barracks. In my opinion this is normal.

        1. svp67 10 February 2020 16: 40 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          In my opinion this is normal.

          To be honest, on mine too ...
        2. Lamata 10 February 2020 20: 47 New
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          It’s beneficial for us, you can’t quickly turn a changing table into a tank or BMP laughing
      2. Varyag_0711 10 February 2020 16: 49 New
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        God grant that the Bundeswehr will continue to steer Ursula and the like. And then I’m afraid there will be new Guderians with Manshteins, and then wait for trouble.
        1. Lamata 10 February 2020 22: 16 New
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          The Teutons were crushed, they do not have new alozycha and Friedrich 2, but LBGT in bulk.
    2. denplot 10 February 2020 16: 39 New
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      Frederick 2, Blucher, Moltke, Tirpitz, Halder and Paulus quietly smoke aside ..
      1. svp67 10 February 2020 16: 42 New
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        Quote: denplot
        Frederick 2, Blucher, Moltke, Tirpitz, Halder and Paulus quietly smoke aside ..

        Of these, probably only Paulus is quietly rejoicing, since he perfectly understands that in this situation, God forbid war and he will not be the only "loser"
        1. Varyag_0711 10 February 2020 16: 55 New
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          svp67 (Sergey)
          Of these, probably only Paulus is quietly rejoicing, since he perfectly understands that in this situation, God forbid war and he will not be the only "loser"
          Well Payulius on this list is certainly not the only loser! At least Frederick No. 2 and Halder can safely join him, and by and large, everyone else, because None of them can boast of final results in WWI or WWII!
          P.S. The exception here is perhaps only Blucher.
          1. svp67 10 February 2020 17: 00 New
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            Quote: Varyag_0711
            Well Payulius on this list is certainly not the only loser!

            No, he is so ONLY with them. The first Field Marshal surrendered ...
            1. Varyag_0711 10 February 2020 17: 09 New
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              Well, so Frederick with Russian captivity just split the bumps on the floor! Then Paulus would have nothing to be ashamed of, Field Marshal after the king himself ...
              1. svp67 10 February 2020 17: 13 New
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                Quote: Varyag_0711
                field marshal after the king himself ...

                But not lucky ...
      2. Lamata 10 February 2020 20: 49 New
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        Seidlitz, Hindenburg, others are also being made public. Well, where does their frau carry it.
  3. Vasily Ponomarev 10 February 2020 16: 17 New
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    do they have candidates there or something, one person refused and that's it, crisis
    1. tihonmarine 10 February 2020 16: 35 New
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      Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
      do they have candidates there or something, one person refused and that's it, crisis
      In Russia, DMA with extensive experience can be shared.
      1. Terenin 10 February 2020 16: 53 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
        do they have candidates there or something, one person refused and that's it, crisis
        In Russia, DMA with extensive experience can be shared.

        Vlad, who is DMA? belay Do not rush...
        1. tihonmarine 10 February 2020 18: 06 New
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          Quote: Terenin
          Vlad, who is DMA? Do not rush.

          Just the same three letters, but in a different order.
    2. _Sergei_ 10 February 2020 16: 52 New
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      There are no irreplaceable, just there is no one to replace
  4. parusnik 10 February 2020 16: 21 New
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    We would have their problems ... smile
  5. Sergey Olegovich 10 February 2020 16: 30 New
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    They have a crisis ... One refused to run for the post of chancellor, and immediately they have a political crisis ... They do not know what a real political crisis is.
    1. dauria 10 February 2020 18: 20 New
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      .. They do not know what a real political crisis is.


      Tomorrow Putin will fall under a tram - what are we going to do? Shoigu has not been untwisted for real, they are not pecking at this chaff. Zyu and Zhirinovsky are full-time oppositionists, they must not be touched, people are in their places. And they don’t let others in .... It will really be a “crisis” ... laughing
      1. St Petrov 10 February 2020 18: 55 New
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        This will really be a "crisis" ...

        crisis in the sad heads of a dull growing opposition when 20 years of thinking about one

        Tomorrow Putin will fall under a tram


        but I will not have a crisis, I will choose a new specialist for you. I have already 20 years of experience in the elections. I hone my skill.

        And others are not allowed ..


        waffles have no place in hazardous production. there is also a schedule of problems. They can also offend. Also, there is every responsibility there are millions for 150 people. So those who are not allowed in - there simply is no place for them, let them stand at the door and wait. Or they go to comment on the actions of Gabney on the topvar)

        Not allowed wassat I like to read the opposition. cheer up drinks
        1. dauria 10 February 2020 19: 02 New
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          when 20 years of thinking about one


          Lord, make unchangeable and pray. I don’t care - Putin, Vasin, Petin. All the same, Usmanov and Potanin are commanding you, and who draws in the television box - what's the difference. And I'm not in opposition, I just don't give a damn. laughing"I really love Pae-jae," he is a great actor. And in the form it looks just like Tikhonov.
          1. St Petrov 10 February 2020 19: 04 New
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            Lord, make unchangeable and pray. I don’t care - Putin, Vasin, Petin

            but why then are these groans all that constantly accompany your comments? Do not pretend to be. You are hurt by the living.

            Usmanov and Potanin command you anyway


            I feel like I’m reading now. The freethinker patriot in front of me, not otherwise

            And I'm not in opposition

            even afraid to imagine that place ..
            1. dauria 10 February 2020 19: 30 New
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              Do not pretend to be. You are hurt by the living.


              You really can’t believe that you can laugh at such a conviction of the importance of a specific figure in the presidency? You are right, I not only laugh - I feel sorry for the people ... Ordinary people who have driven empty hope into their heads. However, it might be better. Even doctors lie to the terminally ill.
              1. St Petrov 10 February 2020 19: 35 New
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                I not only laugh - I feel sorry for the people ...


                Oh Gods ... How everything is started here)

                You really can’t believe that you can laugh at such a conviction of the importance of a specific figure in the presidency?

                I don’t know what Luxembourg you are writing from, but not everywhere the president’s figure is decorative.

                Lukashenko is ready to write you a bream.
      2. Lamata 10 February 2020 22: 17 New
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        Platoshkin N.N., ready for the presidency !!!
  6. AleksPol 10 February 2020 16: 31 New
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    Where is Germany heading. Chancellor "Baba", Minister of Defense "Baba"
    1. tihonmarine 10 February 2020 16: 36 New
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      Quote: AleksPol
      Where is Germany heading. Chancellor "Baba", Minister of Defense "Baba"

      Translated "blond beast".
    2. Freeman 10 February 2020 16: 59 New
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      Quote: AleksPol
      Where is Germany heading. Chancellor "Baba", Minister of Defense "Baba"


      The prophecy came true ...


      wassat laughing
  7. knn54 10 February 2020 16: 31 New
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    But a survey on May 28-29 last year showed that 70% believed that Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer was not suitable for the role of chancellor. In support of the CDU leader, only 19% spoke out.
    Germany continues to "shake" ...
  8. Operator 10 February 2020 16: 39 New
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    The main core of "Alternatives for Germany" is made up of Germans from the USSR and the German Democratic Republic, who are in favor of Germany withdrawing from the EU and NATO.
    1. Sergey39 10 February 2020 16: 54 New
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      We will cheer for ours.
      1. AleksPol 10 February 2020 17: 35 New
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        Sergei . hi Since the time of Peter the Great, the Germans have best lived in our society and many considered themselves Russian. Under the Union (After the Second World War) were the best allies in the Warsaw Pact. And at the same time, we are constantly fighting with them, and with a lot of blood. And even the grandfather of the past and the western and eastern wars said, the attitude towards the Germans was better than towards the Japanese. Maybe. ours, only spoiled by the Anglo-Saxons?
        1. Sergey39 10 February 2020 18: 24 New
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          Quote: AleksPol
          Maybe. ours, only spoiled by the Anglo-Saxons?

          Exactly. They are under their strong influence.
        2. Lamata 10 February 2020 22: 19 New
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          The NNA was the best army of the Warsaw Pact, and the most ally for us, but the MSG shamefully merged them.
          1. ccsr 11 February 2020 11: 26 New
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            The NNA was the best army of the Warsaw Pact, and the most ally for us, but the MSG shamefully merged them.

            Yes, that was exactly so - the NNA was the best in Europe, and even Westerners noted that. Well, the eternal shame fell on us, because even Honecker was merged to please those who contributed to our collapse - a shame for a Russian person.
            1. Lamata 11 February 2020 11: 34 New
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              Soglsen, with Honecker it was generally archipositive.
    2. Doliva63 10 February 2020 20: 39 New
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      Quote: Operator
      The main core of "Alternatives for Germany" is made up of Germans from the USSR and the German Democratic Republic, who are in favor of Germany withdrawing from the EU and NATO.

      I was always impressed by the GDR Germans, but in order to get out of the EU and NATO, they would have to disconnect from the FRG back. But without the USSR it will not work, alas.
      1. don-1500 10 February 2020 22: 36 New
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        Germany, which will leave the EU and NATO, literally the next day will demand back its lands from Poland (Kaliningrad I hope their language does not turn)
  9. rocket757 10 February 2020 16: 39 New
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    Cases, affairs, and events grow out of them.
    In principle, everything remains for us no better, but Germany has only one GREEN way!
    This is now a trend, mainstream and everything else .... we’ll talk about common sense a little later. Let's see how they all go.
    1. cat Rusich 10 February 2020 23: 44 New
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      After the closure of the last nuclear power plant in Germany, VEGITARIANITY will be officially introduced in Germany yes
      1. rocket757 10 February 2020 23: 52 New
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        Greta and her followers will be delighted, some will move to Germany, who are not there yet ... and some, strange Germans will finally move to us! The other day, relatives again came to the neighbors from there. There is enough space in the village, and the weather we have this year, well, as in a geyrop, and not in the north! A little bit, just the grass does not go to growth ... why did the child buy new skis, where now to ride them, the question ???
        1. cat Rusich 11 February 2020 00: 07 New
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          The advice to the "traditional Germans" is to take away the lands of the GDR ... and "return" to Russia ... following the example of the Crimea. Our Crimea - Russia good
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            No, we will not advise ... otherwise they will accuse me of interference again.
            WE HAVE ANYTHING ENOUGH OF OURSELF, but we don’t need someone else's.
  10. Xenofont 10 February 2020 16: 46 New
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    Yes, the worse they have, the better. There is no time for deliberate nastiness against Russia.
  11. Cowbra 10 February 2020 17: 15 New
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    I read a little on the topic - fucked up.
    The democratically elected Prime Minister of Thuringia Thomas Kemmerich announced his resignation.
    Kemmerich himself represents the Free Democratic Party, but he won the vote in favor of Alternatives for Germany. This fact is extremely outraged by the "liberal public" and the centrists. Spit on democracy, spit on the official status of AfD, they are all the same ultra-right! Even the German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who was on an official visit to South Africa, said publicly: "It's a bad day for democracy. What happened is unforgivable, the result must be undone."
    We read carefully. A bad day for democracy is a candidate’s victory in free elections thanks to the support of a party officially authorized in the country, supported by 12,6% of voters (according to recent Bundestag elections). It was decided to correct a bad day by canceling the election results simply because their result was not pleasant. And these people are still undertaking to accuse Russia of totalitarianism?
    wassat
    1. Alexey RA 10 February 2020 18: 06 New
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      Quote: Cowbra
      A bad day for democracy is a candidate’s victory in free elections thanks to the support of a party officially authorized in the country, supported by 12,6% of voters (according to recent Bundestag elections).

      That's right: democracy is the power of democrats.
      Remember how our liberals raged in 1993 and 1996, demanding to immediately ban, deprive, infringe on their rights, shut up forever all those who disagree with them.
    2. Kurare 10 February 2020 18: 56 New
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      Quote: Cowbra
      I read a little on the topic - fucked up.

      I want to add a little from myself: ordinary people in Thuringia were generally stunned. Politicians from the ruling elites are not even shy about saying that those who voted for AfD voted "undemocratic." Those. they were simply thrown overboard! And new polls show that neither the CDU nor the FDP in Thuringia shines because of such curtsies. ACC proved to be just a colossal fool. A chair has been swaying under it for a long time, and now there is no chair left there. Now it’s probably a holiday in the Bundeswehr,

      Merkel first prepared for herself the successor of von der Leyen - there she went to the fullest and managed to fuse it “with an increase”. Now ACC, the same story. Merkel’s opponents in the CDU under it are no longer shovels, they will dig with bulldozers. To be honest, it’s very bad for relations with Russia, since the chancellor’s main opponent is an inveterate Americanist.
  12. Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2020 17: 27 New
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    Großmütter ganz Deutschland - wird immer regieren laughing
    1. Doliva63 10 February 2020 20: 46 New
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Großmütter ganz Deutschland - wird immer regieren laughing

      Let it be their problem, I have enough of my own in the Russian Federation.
  13. Ros 56 10 February 2020 18: 08 New
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    These clumps should not be in power, there should be smart, energetic, upholding the interests of Germany, and not the EU and striped, such as Sarah Wagenknekht. One surname is worth it, but as she rinsed Merkel, I was amazed. These are the policies we should have in order to break the mouth for Russia, otherwise sanctions will be rolled out to us, and ours will be wiped out. It’s harder to answer these Poles, and indeed the Young Europeans and the Pinstripe also do not interfere with moving their elbow to the side, etc.
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      Quote: Ros 56
      These clumps should not be in power, there should be smart, energetic, upholding the interests of Germany, and not the EU and striped, such as Sarah Wagenknekht. One surname is worth it, but as she rinsed Merkel, I was amazed. These are the policies we should have in order to break the mouth for Russia, otherwise sanctions will be rolled out to us, and ours will be wiped out. It’s harder to answer these Poles, and indeed the Young Europeans and the Pinstripe also do not interfere with moving their elbow to the side, etc.

      But does the Russian economy allow it? The last one who could move his elbow was the Union.
  14. Incvizitor 10 February 2020 18: 22 New
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    A normal person is still not allowed there, the country is occupied by terrorists.
    1. bk316 10 February 2020 18: 40 New
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      No matter how Russia again had to liberate Germany, only now it’s not from the Nazis but from the arrogant saxophone belay
      The Germans are really mentally close, but their release is very expensive.
  15. pexotinec 10 February 2020 18: 50 New
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    I look in Germany there are no men left request
    1. ccsr 10 February 2020 19: 26 New
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      Quote: pexotinec
      I look in Germany there are no men left

      Two world wars mowed down the best and full-fledged men, that’s why the offspring were given by “white-ticketers” - this is a problem of Germany, about which they do not like to spread. Honecker, by the way, understood this, which is why the whole country was involved in sports, i.e. it was a state program to improve the gene pool. And in particular because of this, Westerners so wanted to unite with East Germans - there was a healthier population there, and there were no drug addicts and chronic alcoholics, although some East Germans abused alcohol in old age. But I never met young drunks there.
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        Quote: ccsr
        Quote: pexotinec
        I look in Germany there are no men left

        Two world wars mowed down the best and full-fledged men, that’s why the offspring were given by “white-ticketers” - this is a problem of Germany, about which they do not like to spread. Honecker, by the way, understood this, which is why the whole country was involved in sports, i.e. it was a state program to improve the gene pool. And in particular because of this, Westerners so wanted to unite with East Germans - there was a healthier population there, and there were no drug addicts and chronic alcoholics, although some East Germans abused alcohol in old age. But I never met young drunks there.

        You were not in the hinterland, probably. Village "cooperators" thumped pretty and regularly. At lunch, 2-3 glasses of beer, with you in the field, and then in the evening, in the same place where you dined - to the fullest. And drunken fights. You sit in such a tavern and think - do they still distinguish me from German in form or not? A couple of times the police helped to open fights. This is Thuringia, and closer to Berlin. Although I happened to get to their wedding somehow - there was lard with sauerkraut and moonshine! Damn, how I got home laughing And they drank carefully. And at the expense of their "physics" - surprised. Individuals, as elsewhere, were impressive. But even a huge policeman gave our drunken ensign (in civilian life) his gun, if only it would not hurt. The GDR had too little time to restore the gene pool, but now there is no chance at all - they are gradually being replaced by Arabs, etc. The Germans had one chance - the USSR, now it is not.
        1. ddmitrij 10 February 2020 22: 37 New
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          The western part of Germany also thumps. For some reason, the main booze falls on Thursday. Friday morning in a snot. They are looking for someone to give the keys to the car to get to the place of work.
        2. ccsr 11 February 2020 11: 20 New
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          Quote: Doliva63
          You were not in the hinterland, probably.

          This is not so - I even went to Schneekopf, so I know how the Germans lived in the hinterland, especially since I traveled a lot on the GDR on official business.
          Quote: Doliva63
          Village "cooperators" thumped pretty and regularly. At lunch, 2-3 glasses of beer, with you in the field, and then in the evening, in the same place where you dined - to the fullest.

          Yes, you can’t argue with these, they drank a lot of beer, but in some places they gave out rotten water, because swampy places were many. By the way, if you remember, they often drank glasses not in 0,5 but 0,25 and 0,3 liters with meals. But I saw real drunks after the reunification of Germany in West Berlin - there such chronicles hung out in the center that the East Germans shied away from them.
          Quote: Doliva63
          And drunken fights.

          I saw once, and even then it was more like some kind of fuss. In general, they were afraid of calling the police, it was strictly there, and the fine could reach up to 2500 marks for a fight and hooliganism, which by their standards was a very expensive pleasure.
          Quote: Doliva63
          The Germans had one chance - the USSR, now it is gone.

          Yes, this is exactly so - it was only thanks to the USSR that the East Germans could become the best country in the world, and now many have understood this, which is why such “ostalgia” among former GDR citizens. I still have the opinion that it was an ideal country for people to live, and if we had reached their standard of living, the CPSU would still be the rule.
          1. Doliva63 11 February 2020 19: 02 New
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            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Doliva63
            You were not in the hinterland, probably.

            This is not so - I even went to Schneekopf, so I know how the Germans lived in the hinterland, especially since I traveled a lot on the GDR on official business.
            Quote: Doliva63
            Village "cooperators" thumped pretty and regularly. At lunch, 2-3 glasses of beer, with you in the field, and then in the evening, in the same place where you dined - to the fullest.

            Yes, you can’t argue with these, they drank a lot of beer, but in some places they gave out rotten water, because swampy places were many. By the way, if you remember, they often drank glasses not in 0,5 but 0,25 and 0,3 liters with meals. But I saw real drunks after the reunification of Germany in West Berlin - there such chronicles hung out in the center that the East Germans shied away from them.
            Quote: Doliva63
            And drunken fights.

            I saw once, and even then it was more like some kind of fuss. In general, they were afraid of calling the police, it was strictly there, and the fine could reach up to 2500 marks for a fight and hooliganism, which by their standards was a very expensive pleasure.
            Quote: Doliva63
            The Germans had one chance - the USSR, now it is gone.

            Yes, this is exactly so - it was only thanks to the USSR that the East Germans could become the best country in the world, and now many have understood this, which is why such “ostalgia” among former GDR citizens. I still have the opinion that it was an ideal country for people to live, and if we had reached their standard of living, the CPSU would still be the rule.

            "Ostalgia" is super! drinks
    2. Lamata 10 February 2020 22: 21 New
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      The women drove them below the baseboard. How are they getting acquainted with women there, caring and getting married !!!
  16. faterdom 10 February 2020 19: 22 New
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    And rightly so! Why do they need Crump when there is Trump who will tell everyone what and how to do?
  17. Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2020 19: 41 New
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    The same fifa that recently squealed that the Russians vilely trampled her Wishlist and didn’t let the Bundeswehr’s plane land in Moscow, had to go to Helsinki? laughing The locals call her simply - AKAKA laughing Well added - Ashka-
  18. ddmitrij 10 February 2020 20: 20 New
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    Now I propose to nominate Vladimir Vladimirovich to the post of chancellor.
    1. Doliva63 10 February 2020 21: 14 New
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      Now I propose to nominate Vladimir Vladimirovich to the post of chancellor.

      I directly introduced the new Union - the RF, the BR, the FRG ... But, it turns out, will Poland have to be included in the RF again? laughing
      1. Lamata 10 February 2020 22: 22 New
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        No, Poles and for nothing, and even if you don’t need to pay extra.
      2. ddmitrij 10 February 2020 22: 34 New
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        Yes Yes. And Poland and the Baltic states)))
        Everything is as before.
        This union will be the worst nightmare for the West!
    2. cat Rusich 10 February 2020 23: 52 New
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      V. Putin (President of Russia) will not be released until March 18, 2024. The Germans will have to tolerate, and Angela Merkel "pull the strap" until March 2024 ...
      1. ddmitrij 11 February 2020 22: 03 New
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        It is possible until the Germans offer Dimon to this post. Then in 2024 they will choose Putin in the first round.
  19. SovAr238A 11 February 2020 19: 59 New
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    So they showed such incriminating evidence - which she had previously "specially forgotten" ...
    reminded ...