Kiev intends to build in Donbass two military bases according to NATO standards

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Kiev intends to build in Donbass two military bases according to NATO standards

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine will build two modern military bases in the territory of Donbass. Both military facilities will comply with all NATO standards. This was stated by Minister of Defense of Ukraine Andrii Zagorodniuk.

According to the head of the Ukrainian military department, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has planned the construction of two military bases that fully comply with the standards of the North Atlantic Alliance. One base is planned for construction in Mariupol, the second - in Severodonetsk. At the same time, construction and commissioning deadlines are not disclosed.



One of the priorities (...) is the development of infrastructure construction. We plan to build several high-quality infrastructure facilities so that everyone knows that we can also have military bases according to NATO standards. In particular, these are two objects that we are building in the open field. These will be military bases: one in Mariupol, the other in Severodonetsk

- the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine quoted Zagorodniuk on his official website.

Recall that Ukraine’s accession to NATO is prescribed in the Constitution of the country, this amendment to the main document of Ukraine was adopted under the last president - Petro Poroshenko. Despite the fact that in the alliance they are in no hurry to accept Ukraine into NATO, in Kiev they do not cease to declare the imminent transition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the standards of the alliance for "the fastest entry into NATO."

According to Zagnorodnyuk, Ukraine has "five years of experience in the war with Russia," and this gives "undeniable advantages" when joining the alliance, since "Western countries do not have such experience."
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  1. +10
    8 February 2020 11: 31
    And who will give a penny?
    so that everyone knows that we can also have military bases according to NATO standards

    How proud!
    1. +22
      8 February 2020 11: 39
      Quote: Trevis
      And who will give a penny?
      so that everyone knows that we can also have military bases according to NATO standards

      How proud!

      The poorer the state, the more ambition it has. And all the rogues have an obsession with building military bases according to NATO standards, jumping on Maidans in NATO camouflage. It would be better if a new pig farm and a barn were built, although it would be useful.
      1. +7
        8 February 2020 12: 10
        Let them build, but quick!
        These bases will be very useful to LDNR for deploying drugs of their armed forces when the Nazi-Bandera (oh!) Is finished and the republics gain sovereignty and independent status.
        1. +2
          8 February 2020 15: 49
          Quote: Trevis
          And who will give a penny?

          During the visit of Erdogan to Ukraine on February 3-4, 2020, Zelensky and Erdogan signed an agreement under which the Turkish side will provide financial assistance in the amount of $ 50 million for the needs of the Ukrainian army, in particular, for the purchase of weapons.

          And the Ukrainian ambassador to Turkey, Sigiba, also said that Ukraine in previous years also concluded such deals with Turkey for the corresponding amounts.

          Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2020/02/02/turciya-podarit-kievu-50-mln-dlya-nuzhd-ukrainskoy-armii
          1. 0
            8 February 2020 16: 00
            Erdogan secretly led and is now openly conducting a proxy war between Turkey and Russia in Ukraine under Poroshenko. Poroshenko secretly promised Erdogan to lease Crimea to Turkey for 50 years with a prolongation for military assistance from Turkey to return Crimea to Ukraine.
            I wrote about this, but many did not believe me in this. People just do not remember all the media reports from 2015-2016.

            Video "Ukraine wants to return Crimea with Turkey's help." Published: 22 jan. Feb 2016
            [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = suvIcEnnxPs & feature = emb_err_watch_on_yt]
            1. -1
              8 February 2020 16: 29
              Tanya, they will continue to throw such fakes - and only to drive a wedge between the Turks and Russia, but the Sultan is a very stupid Oriental man, he will take a small share from any situation!
              1. +3
                8 February 2020 17: 40
                Quote: hydrox
                Tanya, they will continue to throw such fakes - and only in order to drive a wedge between the Turks and Russia

                Why did you decide that in my analysis of international information I rely only on the fakes of the Ukrainian media ?!
                And the statement of Erdogan himself about the non-recognition of Crimea by Russia and about the necessity of allegedly "de-occupation" of Crimea by Russia does not mean anything to you?

                In addition to the Ukrainian media in the world in the Russian Crimea, Ukraine and Turkey is full of various information !!!
                Read more yourself, compare information and analyze it objectively!

                But with this
                Quote: hydrox
                the sultan is a very intelligent oriental man, he will take his small share from any situation!
                I very much agree with you!
                1. -3
                  8 February 2020 21: 45
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  And the statement of Erdogan himself about the non-recognition of Crimea by Russia and about the necessity of allegedly "de-occupation" of Crimea by Russia does not mean anything to you?

                  In the mouth of Erdogan?
                  Of course, about nothing! Today, he is our situational partner, and no matter what he throws at the Ze-team, all this will be used by him only to steal $ 10 million more for the skakuas, for example, tactical pants, stubborn in warehouses. And about Crimea, he will kiss his feet more than once, so that he will be allowed to invest in Crimea and give markets for vegetables - then people will tumble down in Crimea, and Crimea will be 3-4 times cheaper than Sochi for food !!
                  1. 0
                    9 February 2020 00: 41
                    Turkish Deshmane Eat Olinclusive laughing
                    And we in Crimea have our own vegetables, wonderful CrimeaTeplitz! Yes
                    1. -3
                      9 February 2020 08: 21
                      Only for such speculative prices do you (such scribes and speculators!) Need to be evicted from the Crimea to hell and replaced by peasants from the middle lane (north of Voronezh)
                      1. -1
                        9 February 2020 19: 16
                        We saw how the southern speculators were excited about cheap Turkish fruits! good
                        Im Turkish fruits like a sickle in a famous place.
            2. +3
              8 February 2020 17: 49
              Quote: Tatiana
              Poroshenko secretly promised Erdogan to lease Crimea to Turkey for 50 years with a prolongation for military assistance from Turkey to return Crimea to Ukraine.

              hi
              Projection is so called because it gives a short backlight with zero result. All so-called. the presidents of the former Ukraine were and are projectors who, with a maximum of "wishlist", have a minimum-minimum of opportunities. What they have in abundance is dirt in the mouth and lies on the top. Examples: Paris agreements on the execution of "Minsk-2", an agreement on a gas contract (one of the conditions of which was the refusal of mutual monetary claims) and here - on you: "Minsk-2" will not be executed by Kiev, and lawsuits against the Russian Federation are rolling out weekly.

              And in the Crimea - "from the herring ears" to them, which, by the way, declares in a whisper even the overlord:
              1. -1
                9 February 2020 19: 20
                Well, yes :: "hidden promises" - where are they to the Molotov-Ribbentrop protocols and the Curzon line! lol
            3. -1
              9 February 2020 09: 16
              Poroshenko secretly promised Erdogan to lease Crimea for Turkey for 50 years ....... chatter of two grandmothers on a blockage, during the course of Tytyan, you suck in every kind of influsor like a vacuum cleaner, Crimea Turks .. into extension. For your information, 2 million people live in Crimea who with a squeamishness kicked out the junta of a military junta into their U-swamp, the Turks would have expected nothing worse, if they hadn’t chased a storm in a glass
          2. -1
            8 February 2020 16: 23
            It was such a thing, it seems in the past or the year before last: the Turks delivered army boots to Ukraine, but I would not call boots weapons.
            Now, if the Turks put them hats, then yes-ah-ah! laughing
            1. -1
              8 February 2020 16: 28
              Turkey has long been sending mercenary units and weapons to Ukraine, as well as recruiting Crimean Tatars.
              Moreover, among the mercenaries, these are mainly Turkish fighters from the detachments, in my opinion, called "gray wolves", who shot our pilots when they landed in the SAR
              1. -2
                8 February 2020 21: 51
                And what of the fact that the Sultan forms mercenary units from the Skakuas and delivers them to Libya?
                Yes figs with him, if only not in E / Burg and Voronezh, but where they will kill the skakuas, we are not interested !!
                1. 0
                  8 February 2020 22: 05
                  Quote: hydrox
                  And what of the fact that the Sultan forms mercenary units from the Skakuas and delivers them to Libya?

                  I’m not talking about Libya, not about Turkey and Russia in general, but I’m talking specifically about the Russian Crimea and about Ukraine, where, in order to allegedly de-occupy Crimea, Turkish militants from the radical terrorist organization “Gray Wolves” of the Ottoman nationalist orientation, supported by Erdogan on state level.
                  1. -4
                    8 February 2020 22: 13
                    Well, well, flocking - and then what?
                    Well, they contain something there about a hundred on two fronts - and so what? There are Lithuanians with Poles and Belarusians, but no one is hysterical about this.
                    It would be more, the LDNR intelligence immediately announced this, and they take it calmly: we have volunteers in LDNR - and they have Turks and Georgians (Georgians won a riot last year).
                    And then the militiamen gradually flip them out, and if a team comes, they simply won’t take them prisoner - that’s all!
                    1. -1
                      8 February 2020 22: 20
                      Don't you see that Turkey’s intervention in the Crimean issue between Ukraine and Russia is gaining momentum in connection with the events in the same Syria? And with the unloading of the Turkish stream - at the failure of Turkey - the Russian Federation and Turkey are not so simple.
                      These are all links in one geopolitical chain.
                      Erdogan needs Crimea, military domination in the Black Sea and oil and gas production in Crimea, Turkish influence in the North Caucasus and the Balkans ..
                      1. -1
                        8 February 2020 22: 30
                        I don’t see anything extraordinary in these situations, that in Syria, in Ukraine :: there is absolutely no need to carry out any movements, re-formations, reinforcements, etc., i.e. the situation is calm, except for a few hassles with amers, not reaching the use of weapons.
                        But Turkey does not intervene in the Crimean issue, because it is sure that some share of the Crimea (maybe Sudak with Koktebel, lol ) they will be given for feeding - and be sure: in these places the service will be orders of magnitude better than in Yalta and Simeiz.
                        And everything is normal with the Turkish stream - after all, the Bulgarian-Serbian site is not ready? Here they will finish building - then we will rejoice, but for now we are waiting ...
                      2. -1
                        8 February 2020 22: 42
                        Quote: hydrox
                        But Turkey does not intervene in the Crimean issue, as it is sure that they will be given some share of the Crimea (maybe Sudak and Koktebel) for feeding - and be sure: in these places the service will be orders of magnitude better than in Yalta and Simeise.

                        When a gangster inadvertently opens a door, he puts his foot into it and crawls into your house with his whole body! Not for this, a bandit comes to your house to bless you. It’s not necessary to be completely naive. At home in Turkey, Erdogan may bring prosperity for his Kurdish population!
                      3. -2
                        8 February 2020 22: 45
                        That you call a red cockroach a bandit!?!
                        Oh, they made fun! Thanks for a well done evening. good
                      4. -2
                        9 February 2020 21: 52
                        Tanya, from now on I will have a small request for our communication with you: if you call me for a dialogue, I will have nothing against the fact that you will not spoil my rating (that is, minus if you disagree with my theses - it is still a dialogue, and not a refusal to receive an order to attack.
          3. 0
            9 February 2020 06: 02
            in which the Turkish side will provide financial assistance in the amount of $ 50 million for the needs of the Ukrainian army, in particular, for the purchase of weapons.
            What caused a wave of criticism within Turkey, both among politicians and among the people. And not the fact that in general these funds will be allocated.
        2. +1
          8 February 2020 19: 15
          Do you remember how they built a wall on the border with Russia?
      2. 0
        8 February 2020 15: 47
        They have a road to nowhere from the "Minsk Stable". So they just bleat quietly.
      3. +1
        8 February 2020 18: 12
        Maybe it will be military pig farms with sows for rearing young animals.
        1. -1
          8 February 2020 21: 56
          Maybe it will be military pig farms with sows for rearing young animals.

          Aha, and the Canadian instructors will be the "pigbags" - this will be the western elite herd !! laughing
    2. -6
      8 February 2020 11: 39
      And who will give a penny?
      Russia will give, here it extended the pumping of gas through Ukraine, and paid $ 3 billion in forfeit to Ukraine winked
      1. +2
        8 February 2020 11: 49
        Not these 3 billion are already shared. Ukraine has already announced the filing of new lawsuits for the Crimea. And this very alliance can give money, provided their military is at these bases. The border of the Russian Federation is now near, a new center for training bndlogs may well appear.
      2. -2
        8 February 2020 11: 57
        and who benefited from this in the long run?) were pumped annually for at least 80 billion and after 14 years, and here the agreement is 40 for several years) every second gain defeated the brain. Well, in Ukraine this is a common thing.
        1. +5
          8 February 2020 12: 32
          Quote: carstorm 11
          and who benefited from this in the long run?

          In the future, the Russian Federation sentenced the Ukrainian pipe, solving its problems during the first year, and then how it goes. Even Western experts admit that the wear of pipe infrastructure is under three quarters; profitability of somewhere 35mil / cubic per year, if you invest money, which they never did. So if something breaks somewhere - it's your own fault ...
          1. +2
            8 February 2020 16: 37
            There is such a rotten person that to help her lose weight is a couple of trifles
            1. +5
              8 February 2020 17: 51
              Quote: hydrox
              There is such a rotten person that to help her lose weight is a couple of trifles

              I understand that Russia is guilty of any problems of the country 404 a priori, but you don’t even need to help: they did not invest in the pipe, it itself will die
              1. +5
                9 February 2020 22: 48
                Here personally minus onewho crawled along my profile and otminusovat everything that came to hand: I can understand that you do not agree with me, it happens. But otminusut koment with an expression of sympathy for the death of Russian fighters, but just people: suffer from masturbation - this is not a reason ..., ashamed
            2. +2
              8 February 2020 18: 18
              They may also have emergencies on the pipe.
      3. +1
        8 February 2020 12: 23
        Quote: 1959ain
        Russia will give, here it extended the pumping of gas through Ukraine, and paid $ 3 billion in forfeit to Ukraine

        Eat fat, drink vodka, Russia extended your life.
        1. +1
          8 February 2020 15: 49
          There is only Roshenosalka in everyday life.
        2. +3
          8 February 2020 16: 39
          Life "under a dropper" - is this life?
          This is the threshold of death. Yes
      4. +1
        8 February 2020 12: 58
        Quote: 1959ain
        Russia will give

        Expand the pocket on your harem pants (back), otherwise, everything that they give you and what you put here will not fit there. laughing
      5. +1
        8 February 2020 14: 35
        we'll never be brothers, lace panties don't look like a scorched red banner
      6. -1
        8 February 2020 15: 54
        Your truthful statements to "patriots" hurt eyes.
    3. +2
      8 February 2020 11: 45
      Kiev intends to build in Donbass two military bases according to NATO standards
      Here, the Poles nadis tearfully and on their knees persuaded Trump to build a base of his own name, and for Polish money. Trump sent the whispers to anal. Now Kakly are trying to lick the Yankees, happily thinking that the two NATO bases on their land, but for the money of the Yankees, is the option that Trump will approve with a squeal! fool Oh well!
      1. 0
        8 February 2020 12: 21
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Here, the Poles nadis tearfully and on their knees persuaded Trump to build a base of his own name, and for Polish money.

        Poland is not afraid of Russia, but maydanutuyu Bandera Ukraine, which is not predictable. But when the state forces (at least one battalion) will stand on the territory of Poland, the Svidomites will not even blather against Poland. He wore an embroidered shirt over his naked body in winter, slurped a shmurdyak and jump on the Maidan.
      2. +3
        8 February 2020 13: 35
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Now Kakly are trying to lick the Yankees, happily thinking that the two NATO bases on their land, but for the money of the Yankees, is the option that Trump will approve with a squeal!

        You correctly noted "Trump sent" and will do the same with these. Trump is not at all a stupid person, he will not go into such an adventure.
        The Baltic States and Poland are another matter. These, on the Russophobian wave, are quite ready to join the creation of NATO bases in Ukraine. But they don’t have money either. The IMF remains.
        As a result, there will be no bases. If the IMF allocates money, it will disappear without a trace in the Ukrainian state.
      3. 0
        8 February 2020 15: 55
        And only Russian nobody wants to lick. Even Belarus.
    4. +22
      8 February 2020 11: 54
      Quote: Trevis
      so that everyone knows that we can also have military bases according to NATO standards

      How proud!

      The fact is that you can joke and scold as much as you like, but ...
      Imagine for a second that everyone who lived in the USSR and speaks well of him in Ukraine (and most of them are not mentioned) will simply disappear in 25-30 years. What will we get? The complete rejection of our original lands, a completely different state and NATO bases at our entrance mat.
      The Kremlin does not moan not to be calmed with the problem of Ukraine. The United States, without ceremony, is setting up the regime and the government that they need, and anywhere in the world. And we, under our nose, cannot put things in order. I repeat, this is our land and not only repelled Bendera live on it, but also normal citizens, and some of them are even citizens of the Russian Federation.
      And after 25-30 years, these lands cannot be returned already, since generations are replaced, and the general history is dying out.
      1. -4
        8 February 2020 12: 24
        I just can’t understand on what grounds your confidence is based on the fact that Russia can take away the influence on the RUSSIAN-speaking population of Ukraine living on the lands of Little Russia and New Russia, as well as the fiction of the fact that these RUSSIAN lands can be taken out SOMETHING Under Russian influence and calculation ?!
        Bandera ends with Nazism (it doesn’t matter who puts a hand to it (and not only a hand, but also other instruments, including heavy ones! laughing ) - and Ukraine is returning to the map of Catherine’s times! Yes
        1. +14
          8 February 2020 12: 34
          Quote: hydrox
          I just can’t understand on what grounds your confidence is based on the fact that Russia can take away the influence on the RUSSIAN-speaking population of Ukraine,

          I wrote in white in Russian
          Quote: NEXUS
          Imagine for a second that everyone who lived in the USSR and speaks well of him in Ukraine (and most of them are not mentioned) will simply disappear in 25-30 years.

          Another generation will come, digitized as the West (and it will come). Plus propaganda, plus training in the West, and these new bodies in the coffin will be seen by both the Russian Federation and you and me.
          Quote: hydrox
          as well as the fiction of the fact that these RUSSIAN lands could be SOMETHING removed from Russian influence and calculation ?!

          Well, let's take it in order ... what government is sitting in Kiev? Pro-Russian? But in Ochakovo what is being built, do not remind? Now two bases in the Donbass. Oil painting. Plus, the departure from the Russian language, from the Russian church, and the complete impoverishment of the population.
          But what did Russia do to squeeze the Anglo-Saxons from these territories? She returned the Crimea and did not allow the Donbass to be crushed? Is that all?
          Well, believe that the Anglo-Saxons will not succeed. I see that everything is going fine for them, and the Kremlin is chewing on snot.
          1. 0
            8 February 2020 12: 53
            Quote: NEXUS
            And what did Russia do to squeeze the Anglo-Saxons from these territories?

            Andrey, you are an absolutely terrible skeptic!
            And for the liberation of Donbass, the time has not come yet (it would have come earlier if we had finished SP-2)
            But it didn’t come because in previous years the LIBRARY liberda felt fine, but now she is sitting in a wheelchair on wheels (that’s why Kozak was replaced by Surkov in order to wait for changes).
            The people from constitutional amendments hoped to get at least a referendum ... but maybe the authorities will change their minds and give the referendum to the people.
            The changes themselves are vignette-like (de jure that already worked de facto is fixed)
            1. +2
              8 February 2020 16: 00
              He is not a skeptic, he is a realist. While money is being stored in pillows in the Kremlin, Westerners look to the future that is about to come.
        2. -1
          8 February 2020 15: 59
          Oh, and skakuasy zamusuyut, it became very badly!
          Don't be afraid, skakuasischi, Russia will take only Russian-speaking Ukrainians under its arm, skakuasi from Galychany are not necessary to us in figs - why do we need a repetition of shooting in the back? So ukro-speaking need to immediately set themselves up for the fact that "pshekam need slaves !!"
          No, well, of course, the section will be very intelligent, exactly along the lines of Curzon - so no one will be offended by Russia.
          But whoever you give Lemberg to is very interesting to me: after all, St. Jura Cathedral - there is no such Hungarian Rococo anywhere, and leave it to the skakuas - it will fall apart, like the Kiev shrines (along with the Kiev bridges, the Dnieper and the Kakhov dam!) No. .
      2. +4
        8 February 2020 12: 24
        Quote: NEXUS
        And after 25-30 years, these lands cannot be returned already, since generations are replaced, and the general history is dying out.

        And the border will already be between Russia and the United States.
      3. -2
        8 February 2020 17: 19
        Here you are right ... We have been scared for so long possible the emergence of NATO bases in Crimea. The authorities broke firewood, so that this would not happen, but these bases can now spread out in a wide chain along our borders ...
      4. -1
        8 February 2020 21: 43
        So already 30 years have passed since the USSR everything has been grown, and after 2014 it’s already 6 years
    5. +2
      8 February 2020 11: 55
      Quote: Trevis
      And who will give a penny?

      A penny will give just .. Here in the Donbass who will give them .. It’s time to throw off these Natsiks ... already tired ...
    6. +9
      8 February 2020 11: 59
      And what is there to be surprised? In the midst of hostilities in the Donbass, on the line of contact, on the side of Ukrainian punishers, there was at once an entire bunch of NATO instructors, up to the battalion of electronic intelligence of the US Army! And now they’ll do it officially ... I’ll write again without any sarcasm - so that the 3rd World War does not happen, it is imperative that our tanks are comfortably located on Khreshchatyk (preferably on the streets of Minsk and Tselinograd (I do not have time to remember constantly changing name of the capital of Kazakhstan) as soon as possible!
      1. -7
        8 February 2020 12: 30
        No, Eugene, as soon as the smell of gunpowder smells good in the Donbass, these instructors will drop all the pieces of iron (remember 080808! laughing (And how did they beg for us to return at least the equipment from these Hammers to them (they hardly licked the berets !!)) and in three days their maximum and the trace will go cold, including and from Ochakovo, and from the Yavoriv landfill.
        And where the militias decide to organize a parking for their tanks (in Odessa, Lviv or Kharkov) - this will be their business Yes
        1. 0
          8 February 2020 12: 33
          Their footprint will also get cold for another reason - it will get dirty! But we know ...
      2. -7
        8 February 2020 12: 37
        in the Donbass, on the contact line, on the side of Ukrainian punishers was at once to the battalion of radio intelligence of the US Army and a whole bunch of NATO instructors!

        Eugene.
        Can I have a photo of building a battalion? Here you are cunning and escalating the situation. What for? Order received?
        1. +2
          8 February 2020 13: 01
          I believe you and do not ask.
          1. +2
            8 February 2020 13: 05
            A little bit in the subject ... Was.
      3. +2
        8 February 2020 13: 45
        preferably on the streets of Minsk

        Don’t say so carefully, Eugene. And so there are more problems in the relationship than I wanted.
        1. +2
          8 February 2020 13: 53
          This lack of our tanks in Belarus is the root of the problem, because I don’t mean ordinary people, but the traction of the so-called elites falls under the United States, and our tanks are a deterrent for corrupt skins from the country's leadership.
          1. +1
            8 February 2020 14: 21
            This lack of our tanks in Belarus is the root of the problem

            Yes?! Total business!
            Eugene. On this resource there are many eagles that trees peck. Either one says that the population of all the former republics is completely subhuman, the second can’t eat until the Radu Topoli is glazed ....
            Where are you going? In that flock of eagles? What are our tanks on the streets of Minsk ?! Forgot (here 40 lines of mat) that we are one people? !!!
            1. +1
              8 February 2020 14: 43
              It will be interesting to listen to you when Abrams will ride on the streets of Minsk ... As NATO bases are being built in Ukraine now, we, too, seem to be one people ....
              1. +2
                8 February 2020 14: 52
                Eugene, what are the Abrams?
              2. +1
                8 February 2020 14: 54
                How are they being built bases NATO in Ukraine, we are also one people ....

                Eh ... Compared to the semi-base in Ochakov, we have “Khimki” just a metropolis. What's the point?
                Anyway. I mean, I also came across the concept of "distribution" after graduation. Yes, and got there from all over the Union. How modern youth speaks; - "The mix was valid!"
                We (yes, yes, - us!) Are brainwashed and divided. And it turns out!
                1. 0
                  8 February 2020 15: 09
                  We were separated for a long time, in 1991 and it is time to collect stones!
                  1. +1
                    8 February 2020 15: 37
                    We were separated for a long time, in 1991 and it is time to collect stones!

                    And .... do you agree? With what someone gathered in the forest and shared? Do you agree so much that you are preaching (true word) the introduction of tanks in a neighboring city? Against who?!
                    Tell me, Eugene, tell me here ... Who are you going to attack with tanks on the streets of Minsk ?!
                    Yes, the thematically site is dedicated to war, yes, the distant are all bad and bad. But you sow hatred towards your neighbors.
                    Once again: WE ARE ONE PEOPLE.
                    1. -1
                      8 February 2020 15: 52
                      We are one people, but for some reason the states are different, and this is the division that is being solved only today and not otherwise!
                      1. 0
                        8 February 2020 19: 59
                        pralno - with iron and blood - as the great von Bismarck bequeathed to the 2nd Reich))
              3. -4
                8 February 2020 17: 25
                Sorry, but with your statements you are exactly pushing your neighbors away from normal peaceful coexistence. I personally have always stated that the actions of our authorities in 2014 in relation to Dill were wrong. Who came to power with them? Not a Bandera, but a huckster !!! So it was necessary to negotiate with him as with a huckster. They would have a "gateway to Europe" through the fraternal people.
          2. +1
            8 February 2020 14: 49
            Yes, your tanks with the policy of your state do not really preserve themselves, there should be political will, and not a concern, in the words of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
            1. 0
              8 February 2020 15: 07
              But with political will, it really doesn’t matter with us - once we didn’t get to 20 km to Tbilisi, they got scared of something there, and the second time we squeezed Crimea and are still surprised at our resolve laughing But the experience of returning their territories already exists!
              1. 0
                8 February 2020 15: 11
                Well, they didn’t squeeze Crimea out, but returned it very competently, for which I enjoy looking at the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called with swords on the chest of General Shoigu. General with a capital letter. Now the curtain on those events is already ajar, there was both a will and a desire.
                1. -1
                  8 February 2020 15: 13
                  Depressed, returned ... These are all the nuances. And it was necessary to go further, to Kiev, that would be the will and desire!
                  1. +2
                    8 February 2020 15: 21
                    These are all the nuances.

                    In one case, you are enslaving, and in the second, liberation. And they will meet you in different ways, when with a gun, and when with flowers.
                    1. -2
                      8 February 2020 15: 23
                      Demagogy is all this!
                      1. +3
                        8 February 2020 15: 27
                        Well, well, you know better.
                  2. 0
                    8 February 2020 15: 28
                    Quote: Finches
                    it was necessary to go further, to Kiev, that would be the will and desire!

                    Turn on the brains - not fate, hike? wink
                    1. -2
                      8 February 2020 15: 49
                      What's the problem?
                      1. +2
                        8 February 2020 15: 51
                        Quote: Finches
                        What's the problem?

                        IMHO in the brain.

                        Quote: Finches
                        it was necessary to go further, to Kiev

                        I about it precisely, esl it is not clear.
                      2. -2
                        8 February 2020 16: 22
                        It is your opinion. Like you ... With brains, a common country has collapsed! He squeezed out almost all Russians from Kazakhstan, the Russian language is practically banned in Ukraine, Minsk kisses Pompeo ... Turn your brains on!
                      3. 0
                        8 February 2020 20: 09
                        what are your wishes to the next provider - guarantor ???
                        Politics is a concentrated expression of economics - do we have something to offer them ???? except tanks
                      4. -2
                        8 February 2020 20: 21
                        You quoted Lenin - but not in practical terms, but for the sake of PR! In this case, we are not talking about the economy, but about the return of their original Russian lands! My grandfathers Ukraine, liberating its lands, watered blood, great-grandfathers raised the industry of Siberia - and now I have to measure the blood and affairs of my ancestors with the beauty of jeans produced, or what ??? Open your eyes to the Russian people! Belarus, Ukraine ...- this is my land inherited by my and your grandfathers - and the fact that we have it ... So you need to correct your mistakes! That will be my tale to you!
      4. +1
        8 February 2020 16: 02
        Do not forget to buy boots for your son, and his helmet at the same time. Write a will and go ahead for orders. Not many will be, however.
        1. -3
          8 February 2020 16: 24
          I have been serving in the army for more than a quarter of a century, and somehow without your advice I will manage what and to whom to buy! hi
          1. +1
            8 February 2020 16: 46
            Probably an ensign? Then you already have everything to start the feat. Go ahead.
            1. -2
              8 February 2020 16: 48
              Why ensign? A soldier.
          2. -1
            8 February 2020 17: 29
            I wear a harness and dumb and dumb? ... I always thought this couplet was not right and insulting, but today, reading your statements, I thought ...
            1. -2
              8 February 2020 19: 24
              laughing When I decided to get married in my third year at the military school, my aunt said just that about the sword belt ... And already with my wife I’ve been in her third decade ... and she’s spoken about her woman’s ... a young girl in the garrisons, but we live! And you will not change my opinion — I know what the Union of Soviet Socialist-Republican Republics was and I know what modern Russia is, unfortunately, heaven and earth! hi
    7. +1
      8 February 2020 12: 00
      But you don’t know how they are building according to NATO standards?
      Pentagon builds $ 43 million gas station in Afghanistan
      The U.S. Department of Defense spent nearly $ 43 million on a gas station in Northern Afghanistan, but was unable to explain why it cost so much, the United States Special Inspector said.

      So there’s nothing strange - they know how to steal there, no matter how abruptly than in NATO!
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    9. +7
      8 February 2020 12: 37
      Quote: Trevis
      And who will give a penny?
      so that everyone knows that we can also have military bases according to NATO standards
      How proud!

      Everything is in accordance with the manuals: the main thing is to publish a sound loudly by the brain .. But I'm wonderfully curious: what does it mean by NATO standards? If these are advanced bases, then they are already full there. Permanent bases? What will bowling, American express ATM and BX store be built? Will they pull? Funny to listen
    10. 0
      8 February 2020 13: 25
      Quote: Trevis
      And who will give a penny?

      Do not worry, there is always money for it.
    11. +3
      8 February 2020 13: 28
      Quote: Trevis
      And who will give a penny?
      so that everyone knows that we can also have military bases according to NATO standards

      How proud!

      For five years, for which a gas transit contract was signed, they will receive up to 7,5 billion. Their guest workers annually send up to 10 billion dollars to Ukraine. In principle, not a bad weld to implement their plans. It turns out that we ourselves are indirectly sponsoring their plans to counter Russia and integrate into structures hostile to us. It is necessary to curtail all economic contacts with them to zero, and if you are an "aggressor", then very stingy.
    12. +2
      8 February 2020 13: 28
      Quote: Trevis
      And who will give a penny?

      The IMF, as always, will "help out" Ukraine.
      1. 0
        8 February 2020 14: 49
        The IMF can give money for some kind of project like "Elimination of nuclear energy". Will not give for construction.
  2. +2
    8 February 2020 11: 42
    The standard they have nearby in Poland is called Auschwitz.
  3. +2
    8 February 2020 11: 43
    Did the night mriyas torture you? Build, build ... How many "sawed" on Yatsenyuk's wall? Otozh! And at these bases ten times more is possible ...
  4. +1
    8 February 2020 11: 47
    We plan to build several high-quality infrastructure facilities so that everyone knows that we can also have military bases according to NATO standards.
    What beautiful and patriotic phrases, I even shed a tear, from such words, people can take words for the soul! But then I remembered one character from "Heart of a Dog"
    and realized that I was deeply mistaken, reality is always simpler.
  5. 0
    8 February 2020 11: 49
    And it will take to cut the territory of the Donetsk region, excuse me, the Republic.
    1. -1
      8 February 2020 12: 40
      Yes, not cut, but cut - immediately to the size of New Russia!
  6. +1
    8 February 2020 11: 57
    According to NATO standards, if - then you’ll have to immediately shell them with missiles, so that they are like a master in Iraq laughing
  7. +2
    8 February 2020 11: 58
    so everyone knowsthat we can also have military bases according to NATO standards.
    Build (when?), Everyone will know and what will change from this? They won't be accepted into NATO anyway, but at least prepare a bridgehead for the Americans. The American "construction battalion" is already building one object. The most interesting thing is how a base according to NATO standards differs from a modern base, for example, Russia? Probably they have a "spirit of democracy" and dry closets, if there is no centralized sewage system, of a different color.
  8. 0
    8 February 2020 11: 59
    Most of all I liked the expression that they had been waging a war with Russia for five years. And nothing, that the Russian Federation had not yet come to this war! The GDP didn’t warn them in vain, but like in that song: And they ended their campaign in the Pacific! True, there is no ocean on the western border, but the Carpathians will come down!
  9. -1
    8 February 2020 12: 02
    What series it is, we will build. 1 series Yatsenyuk’s fence, 2 series according to NATO standards in the Odessa region, Ukrainians good luck in cutting money.
  10. +1
    8 February 2020 12: 04
    ,, Kiev intends to build in Donbass two military bases according to NATO standards, "

    This loud statement resembles the wall of Yatsenyuk. In vain, only the deadlines are not set. And then after all, the shorter the term, the steeper the cut. smile
  11. +2
    8 February 2020 12: 13
    The Russian Ministry of Defense intends, as assistance, to send a certain number of Iskander missiles to the construction sites as assistance to the "builders"!
    Even if the "builders" refuse, there is no turning back!
    I am interested in one question! And the residents of the territory adjacent to future bases were asked for consent? Or do they agree to be goals in advance?
  12. -1
    8 February 2020 12: 19
    Well done, painted goals))
  13. +5
    8 February 2020 12: 25
    In my opinion, the main goal of this construction is the ability to quickly transfer troops from NATO there.
    Similarly, in the Ochakovo area, a marine center is being built.
    Such a creeping entry into NATO.
    There are no NATO troops themselves, and the infrastructure is being prepared for them, so that, if a decision is made, you can quickly deploy
    hi
  14. +1
    8 February 2020 12: 27
    According to Zagnorodnyuk, Ukraine has "five years of experience in the war with Russia," and this gives "undeniable advantages" when joining the alliance, since "Western countries do not have such experience."

    Zagorodniuk is the new hope of overpowering Ukraine. Even Napoleon and Hitler had less experience in the war with Russia. what
  15. 0
    8 February 2020 12: 30
    Amerika with us !!!
  16. +1
    8 February 2020 12: 34
    So it sounds like some kind of fortresses have been erected. But in fact the warehouses are surrounded by a thorn. And not the fact that with airfields. What are NATO's special standards for bases?
  17. 0
    8 February 2020 12: 39
    Key phrase: Let everyone know.
  18. 0
    8 February 2020 12: 45
    About the five-year experience of the war with Russia, which did not appear in the war, this bowl of course bent, they would have been idle for weeks to lift their paws up the hill or die.
  19. -1
    8 February 2020 12: 51
    The Minister of Defense and not shaved, pah, dirty tricks))))) Standards Nata, yep, will be covered with blocks and containers with the ground, and will sit there, no no going on supposedly patrolling. In Afghanistan, so.
  20. +1
    8 February 2020 12: 56
    According to Zagnorodnyuk, Ukraine has "five years of experience in the war with Russia," and this gives "undeniable advantages" when joining the alliance, since "Western countries do not have such experience."

    But Russia never came to this war
    1. -2
      8 February 2020 13: 04
      Well of course, swear masked))))))
  21. 0
    8 February 2020 13: 05
    ... "According to Zagnorodnyuk, Ukraine has a" five-year experience of war with Russia "...
    You know what, Zadrotnyuk, or whatever, the Barmaley from Syria would tell you about the experience of the war with Russia!
    And so in one word "zvizdet not grumble bags"!
    1. -1
      8 February 2020 13: 28
      that is, they announced it to us. but they didn’t tell us and they are fighting with us and we don’t know.
  22. +1
    8 February 2020 13: 05
    The republics will have to quickly clear all of the Donbass from ukrov.
  23. +1
    8 February 2020 13: 17
    "..... The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine will build two modern military bases on the territory of Donbass ....."
    laughing Does Donbass know? Bandera crap mo breaks another bottom of its natural stupidity.
  24. 0
    8 February 2020 13: 25
    Except for jokes, what prospects are joyfully reported by the political leadership of the Independent?
    On the construction of military bases!
    Are you satisfied with the population?
    Wouldn’t it be better for the Ukrainian economy to build some new enterprises, and at least the same pig farms as described above by one of the participants in VO?
  25. 0
    8 February 2020 13: 53
    Five years of experience in raking unhurried enemy luli - they’re right. laughing
  26. -1
    8 February 2020 14: 07
    When will the rut begin to change ?!
    Grandfather Adolf and Grandfather Joseph why did they seize Poland? Free? No. Both needed a steam engine park.
  27. 0
    8 February 2020 14: 27
    What APU gained experience in is the war with the warlock.
  28. 0
    8 February 2020 14: 53
    And they also wanted to go through the military parade of the winners on Red Square .... however ...
  29. -1
    8 February 2020 15: 06
    Kiev intends to build in Donbass two military bases according to NATO standards

    And sho not 10, the vodka is over? request
  30. 0
    8 February 2020 16: 45
    what’s the article about - some sort of redneck, by the appearance of a guarantor of the development of money for military purposes, calls the construction-base theme. What are you guys drinking there? What bases are in the country where you are still located. If the places of your highest deployment on a front longer than 400 km are just a pastime, then the base is something. I recall an old joke. A Jew calls by phone - Alla. This is a base, yes a base., - call Rabinovich to the phone. “There is no such thing here.” They would say that this is a military base.
  31. 0
    8 February 2020 17: 19
    There is a strategic mistake from the fact that at one time there was an opportunity to take Mariupol under the control of the LDNR, but they didn’t take it.
  32. 0
    9 February 2020 00: 08
    I have hopes for a young man. The Ukrainian authorities will not be able to build any bases even near Kiev, due to lack of resources, even if they had fallen from somewhere, there are many external and internal forces that will be against it.
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  34. 0
    9 February 2020 00: 25
    According to Zagnorodnyuk, Ukraine has "five years of experience in the war with Russia," and this gives "undeniable advantages" when joining the alliance

    "I want you to remember that no * kodulbu * has ever won a single war by dying for their country. The one who makes other poor dumb * vokdyulbu * die for his country wins."

    American General Patton, George Smith (instruction to the Americans, * codule * on Wikipedia - read the opposite) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patton_ George_Smith
  35. ANB
    0
    9 February 2020 00: 36
    ... Ukraine has "five years of experience in the war with Russia," and this gives "undeniable advantages" when joining the alliance, since "Western countries do not have such experience."

    And in NATO, well, straightforwardly suckers sit and believe every word from Ukraine.
    No, they promise support.
    But they are not in a hurry to accept NATO.
    laughing
    1. 0
      9 February 2020 11: 07
      Quote: ANB
      But they are not in a hurry to accept NATO.

      Well, roughly, as Hitler was in no hurry to capture Poland ...
  36. +1
    9 February 2020 07: 04
    They will put up tents in the field, that's the whole base.
  37. 0
    9 February 2020 09: 38
    Kiev intends to build in Donbass two military bases according to NATO standards

    Svidomo’s plans for a granny ... I remember that they were going to produce shale gas in the Donbass jointly with the United States and even took an advance on this matter, but
  38. 0
    9 February 2020 11: 27
    Quote: ANB
    And in NATO, well, straightforwardly suckers sit and believe every word from Ukraine.
    No, they promise support.

    “A significant part of the assistance to NATO and its member states in 2018 came within the framework of the NATO Comprehensive Assistance Package (hereinafter CAP) for Ukraine. branches of cooperation, containing 13 functional areas "
    (http://www.mil.gov.ua/content/files/whitebook/WB-2017.pdf)
    1. 0
      9 February 2020 11: 34
      http://www.mil.gov.ua/content/files/whitebook/WB-2018.pdf
  39. +1
    9 February 2020 20: 11
    In Donbass, "seismological conditions" are bad. Under the "Marik" and under the "Severodonetsk" - "explodes," sho not hitting. Do not have time to "steal money."
    1. -1
      9 February 2020 22: 11
      Quote: German Titov
      Poor "seismological conditions" in Donbass

      You are in the top ten, of course, but "seismological conditions" are not only in the Donbass.
      Ukraine has 15 nuclear atomic reactors built in Soviet times. 12 were intended to close by 2020.

      Ukrainian nuclear time bomb:
      https://bankwatch.org/project/zombie-reactors-in-ukraine
  40. 0
    10 February 2020 09: 01
    Well then, and we will build them to Kiev .. to drive all this scum from our lands