The deadlines for testing the complexes in the framework of the R & D "Sketch"

The deadlines for testing the complexes in the framework of the R & D "Sketch"

Self-propelled gun "Phlox"


Serial production of the latest artillery systems developed as part of the development project "Sketch" will begin in a year and a half. This was announced by a representative of UVZ at the international arms exhibition Defexpo 2020, which is taking place these days in Indian Lucknow.

According to the representative of the plant, the state tests of the mortar "Drok" and self-propelled guns "Phlox" and "Magnolia" are planned to be completed in a year and a half.

In the next year and a half, it is planned to complete the test complex of the 82-mm self-propelled mortar "Drok", 120-mm SAO on the Phlox automobile chassis, 152-mm SAO on the chassis of the Magnolia armored two-link tracked conveyor. In the same period, mass production of these samples will begin.

he told reporters.

As previously reported, in the Central Research Institute "Burevestnik" (Nizhny Novgorod) in the framework of the experimental work "Sketch" were developed self-propelled artillery guns (SAO) "Phlox" and "Magnolia", as well as mortar "Drok".

In 2018, Colonel General Oleg Salyukov, Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, said in an interview that the domestic artillery complex Nabrosok was being created, including for use in the Arctic. The Knight.

Artillery pieces from this "flower" series, along with conventional artillery shells, are capable of firing mortar mines. Installations can raise the barrel in the range from -2 to + 80 degrees, which allows them to hit targets along a hinged path, direct fire, as well as throw mines almost vertically.
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  1. Thrifty 7 February 2020 11: 31 New
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    Sincerely sorry that you can not put the cons article! We’ll start to do everything totally, but “later!” The third article on the site is about fairy tales, that soon the military will finally launch a cornucopia, and shock drones will go out of it en masse, which are actually raw now, engines for strategists, now now and data pepelatsy! And maybe, not to say, not bragging, but to silently do it, conduct state tests, launch it in a series, and after that sing a song in your honor? And then, in fact, we see a total shift in the timing of production or testing of new samples or serial copies of equipment forever "to the right", that is, after a few years, and in the news we are sawed ears that this is exactly what was planned!
    1. vkfriendly 7 February 2020 11: 39 New
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      Well, take it and try to forbid writing articles to journalists. Unless of course it turns out. Or do you think that system manufacturers are scribbling. Some journalist - a blogger got up in the morning and scratched his pants, that is, I want to drink something, dike, I’ll write an article.
      1. Thrifty 7 February 2020 12: 19 New
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        It's not about the authors, but in our realities! It’s easy to promise. You yourself have probably repeatedly been outraged that they constantly give us equipment after the “rain on Thursday!” Remind only one fairy tale from the Moscow Region that the T50, aka Su57, will come to the troops already in 2015? ?? And how many such tales each year give us "on the mountain" ???
        1. Sanichsan 7 February 2020 13: 59 New
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          Something I did not see your indignation in an article about B21 which is about to take off ... or are you only outraged by Russian development prospects?
          1. V.I.P. 7 February 2020 14: 14 New
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            B-21 will do, do not hesitate. It is based on the B-2. And he flies since 1986. So that they will only change materials, electronics and engines to new ones ... ........ And screaming about PAK YES, which has no analogues, they just decided to draw pictures. And riveted Tu-160m. Americans abandoned their counterpart B1, withdrawn from strategic aviation. And judging by the timing of receipt of the Su 57 troops in normal form (with normal engines, radar, new ammunition). Even he does not know when he will arrive .... A PAK Yes, at that rate they will be adopted when the amers will have at least B third generation or some kind of spaceship))))
            1. Oyo Sarkazmi 7 February 2020 14: 19 New
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              Quote: V.I.P.
              B-21 will do, do not hesitate. It is based on the B-2.

              If like the F-35 from the Yak-141, it would be better not to do. In the United States, it seems that the economy has also begun to chubais.
              1. V.I.P. 7 February 2020 14: 23 New
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                B-2 is their development, and it is very expensive and technological. ... .And about the YAK-141, there is an interesting version. After all, ours were shown with documentation and it seemed ours already knew that it was crap. Americans have picked up the idea and are still suffering))).
                1. Oyo Sarkazmi 7 February 2020 14: 26 New
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                  Yes, from what was on the network, they took the internal layout, and reduced the size of the entire aircraft by 20%. As a result, despite the more powerful engine, the equipment did not fit. Either with cooling problems, then with power supply.
                2. Ketar 9 February 2020 20: 43 New
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                  There it is slightly different ... The collapse of the Union, then the Eltsin depression ... It seems that the Saratov bureaucrats sold the documentation to the Amers on Yak. However ... Something is a suspicion that not everything was sold ...
              2. Sanichsan 7 February 2020 14: 28 New
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                Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
                If like the F-35 from the Yak-141, it would be better not to do.

                why? vice versa! yes let them do this for more. more railguns in the US Army! soldier
            2. Sanichsan 7 February 2020 14: 26 New
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              Quote: V.I.P.
              B-21 will do, do not hesitate.

              how is the railgun? wassat
              or how does a floating iron zoom in, which is either artillery or rocket, or a barge for transporting soybeans to China? laughing
              but you continue to believe in the spaceship mask hi
              1. V.I.P. 7 February 2020 14: 43 New
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                Bring to mind. childhood diseases, as they say, when the next mace falls, and falls apart, mi -28, ka-52, su-57 and other ... Well, for you-A shit we spend our budget on copies of B-2. F-22, Amer’s ballistic solid propellant rockets (we are from 40 years on unparalleled liquid rockets.). Why did they look at the amers and switched to 5,45 caliber? Why did they look at the amers in Vietnam? They started to make a grenade launcher. disposable grenade launcher, body armor. attack helicopter with missiles? They have it all wrong ..... For some reason they are catching up with the west. Do not know why?
                1. Oyo Sarkazmi 7 February 2020 14: 50 New
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                  Quote: V.I.P.
                  Bring to mind.

                  Like 737 MAX. They made a ditch out of a good airplane.
                2. V.I.P. 7 February 2020 14: 52 New
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                  Can you tell me why looking at Amer’s 12,7 rifles did the same? Or maybe tell me why plastic knee pads and elbow pieces are sculpted everywhere, although the whole world is switching to sewn-in ones. Can you tell us about anti-splinter glasses, tactical headphones and plastic helmets for them? Why do we need to copy everything from the west? This is all bad ..
                3. Grits 7 February 2020 15: 08 New
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                  I also noticed that over time we begin to make weapons and equipment, even outwardly suspiciously similar to the American one.
                4. Sanichsan 7 February 2020 15: 19 New
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                  Quote: V.I.P.
                  And dick we spend our budget on a copy of the B-2. F-22, Amer’s ballistic solid propellant rockets (we are from 40 years on unparalleled liquid rockets.).

                  copies? from so news! cool you grabbed, picky! Tell me, are American lasers also copies of Soviet developments? I just want to understand how everything is running.
                  By the way, why F22, and not F35? Do not want to remember who and who tore off what? laughing regarding B2, for reference, the first flying-wing aircraft was in the USSR. again they didn’t rip off laughing
                  Quote: V.I.P.
                  Why, looking at amers switched to 5,45 caliber

                  probably for the same why now Americans at 7.62 or 6.8 want to go wink
                  Quote: V.I.P.
                  disposable grenade launcher, body armor

                  what ??? Is it like they took it from the USA? Seriously? you really have a bad thing laughing I see you are completely divorced from reality in your fantasies ... read on the Internet about the German Panzerfaust and the Soviet SN.
                  Quote: V.I.P.
                  For some reason they are catching up with the West. Do not know why?

                  Well, what do you think, if in some areas they are behind then you need to sit down and cry? that's only with us it turns out to catch up for better than the United States to catch up in the field of hypersound, lasers or EW wink
                  1. V.I.P. 7 February 2020 15: 44 New
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                    The Soviet flying wing was in service and could break through air defense? RPG-18 when they entered service and what does it look like, amerovsky M72? You don’t even mention about the German developments of the Second World War .. They specifically moved military science forward. And the whole USSR and the USA used their achievements and scientists ....
                    1. Sanichsan 7 February 2020 16: 09 New
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                      Quote: V.I.P.
                      The Soviet flying wing was in service and could break through air defense?

                      cool! and what kind of air defense did B2 break through? what theoretical? laughing
                      Quote: V.I.P.
                      RPG-18 when adopted and what does it look like

                      look like? and you do not mind that in the United States just copy RPGs? It’s not like, but I’m copying.
                      By the way, how is the RPG-18 copied if it was developed at the beginning of 60, and the M-72 at 63?
                      Quote: V.I.P.
                      They specifically moved military science forward. And the whole USSR and the USA used their achievements and scientists ....

                      oh yes ... but if you do not go into details and do not remember that all German wunderwafes were invented before the Second World War and often not by Germans wink and military science was moved so much that they lost the war ... the USSR. the one who "copies everything" laughing
            3. Magog 7 February 2020 22: 08 New
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              Slightly interfere with your controversy. That's about this: "... the Americans abandoned their B1 counterpart, withdrew from strategic aviation." More recently, I came across an article. So it emphasizes that "B-1" is retained in the strategic forces of the Air Force (in the triad) in quantities of about 60 pieces, and there is a program to support the modernization of this aircraft model up to 2038. If I want, I can find this publication. And they curtailed the program on “B-2” and declared the need to dispose of these devices ... (yesterday gave an excerpt from the article “IN”.) That's it!
      2. Grits 7 February 2020 15: 04 New
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        Quote: vkfriendly
        Some journalist - a blogger got up in the morning and scratched his pants, that is, I want to drink something, dike, I’ll write an article.

        This author really scratched his pants very much ...
    2. Nastia makarova 7 February 2020 12: 40 New
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      you constantly sculpt cons))))
      1. Thrifty 7 February 2020 12: 59 New
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        Nastya Makarova - hi there is a sect here denied common sense, written off among themselves, quiet people, and zaminusyvayut group of members of the forum! Looks like in some kind of comment I hurt the tail of one of them. ..
        1. Nastia makarova 7 February 2020 13: 03 New
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          just don’t say that minus tinsmen are trolls and carry out someone’s errand
        2. orionvitt 7 February 2020 13: 53 New
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          Quote: Thrifty
          is there a sect denied common sense

          There is such a sect, I do not argue. And you are one of its active members. Instead of sound reasoning, one nagging and long ranting that everything is wrong.
    3. Svetlana 7 February 2020 14: 16 New
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      Sites need content, and journalists need extra money. Be patient.
    4. Oyo Sarkazmi 7 February 2020 14: 22 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      The third article on the site about fairy tales,

      Do you feel sorry for that? Designers construct, engineers engineer, workers work. All at a salary.
      Did you handle the bridge? They did it. And they will cope with these little little dogs.
      Judging by the characteristics, this thing is for India and Somalia. Which Hyacinths with carnations can not afford, but want to fight.
      1. Alexey RA 7 February 2020 18: 15 New
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        Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
        Judging by the characteristics, this thing is for India and Somalia. Which Hyacinths with carnations can not afford, but want to fight.

        About India amused. Of course, “Bofors” and “three axes” can afford them, but ancient “genocides” cannot. smile
  2. IL-18 7 February 2020 11: 31 New
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    A sketch. Sounds good. Sketched, so a sketch of a dozen mines, and dumped. The concept seems correct, but what the troops say is more interesting than the description of the OCD.
    1. vkfriendly 7 February 2020 11: 47 New
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      And who said that they will go to the troops and not for export to any Emirates.
      1. Per se. 7 February 2020 13: 53 New
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        Quote: vkfriendly
        for export to any Emirates.
        If everything is painted right away in camouflage under the desert, only a new sample has time to light up, who would doubt that the “buy-sell” is not in the leading positions. Now, when they will test equipment secretly, after, first of all, saturating their army with new products, then we will recall about some Emirates later.
  3. rocket757 7 February 2020 11: 32 New
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    Is it a trend to place guns on a car platform?
    1. loki565 7 February 2020 11: 54 New
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      The approach is correct, though as for me I need an automatic loader. To leave, they will quickly shoot back and change their position just as quickly, until the answer flies. Here the Swedes are quite a decent option.
      1. orionvitt 7 February 2020 13: 55 New
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        Quote: loki565
        To leave, they will quickly shoot back and change their position just as quickly, until the answer flies

        For this case, there are multiple launch rocket systems. The tactics of application of which (quickly shoot back, quickly change position), worked out back in World War II.
      2. V.I.P. 7 February 2020 15: 03 New
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        The French (CAESAR), the Jews (ATMOS) have something similar. Yuarovtsy (G6 RHINO), Turks-YAVUS, Chinese-PLL-09, Serbs-NORA, Germans BOXER RCH, Czechs ZUZANNA and EVA ... ..
        1. loki565 7 February 2020 15: 37 New
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          Of these, few have automatic killing, and half generally need to run down the street to reload the gun.
      3. Grits 7 February 2020 15: 17 New
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        Quote: loki565
        Here the Swedes are quite a decent option.

        I like Archer too. And a little enviable.
        1. loki565 7 February 2020 15: 39 New
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          It’s interesting, but you can put a tower from a coalition on a BAZ or MZKT
          1. Simargl 9 February 2020 07: 43 New
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            Quote: loki565
            It’s interesting, but you can put a tower from a coalition on a BAZ or MZKT
            A-222 "Beach" than bad?
    2. Grits 7 February 2020 15: 12 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Is it a trend to place guns on a car platform?

      What's so bad? Or will we always ride through swamps and mud? Something must move along the roads. It is faster and cheaper. The benefit of roads is not getting smaller.
      1. rocket757 7 February 2020 15: 15 New
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        Quote: Gritsa
        And what's wrong?

        Did I write that? I'm just wondering why that is.
    3. Alexey RA 7 February 2020 19: 00 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Is it a trend to place guns on a car platform?

      This is an attempt to cheaply replace towed systems. To quickly go to the OP, attach-give out the data-work out the data-shoot and manage to get out of the OP before the answer arrives.
      Towed systems are currently no time to dump on time. A full-fledged self-propelled guns like "Msty" or "Vienna" is expensive. So they made the AU on the car chassis - with the same cross-country ability as the towed version, but with the folding time, like the self-propelled guns.
      1. rocket757 7 February 2020 19: 26 New
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        URAL car is passable, but not everywhere. It can creep on caterpillars at the most, the most, it happens, but a small trench, a ditch, a furrow, can pass without stopping, preparation.
        However, for everything there is an application, if wisely. On dry land, on the road, such an installation will go faster.
        1. Alexey RA 7 February 2020 19: 29 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          URAL car is passable, but not everywhere. It can creep on caterpillars at the most, the most, it happens, but a small trench, a ditch, a furrow, can pass without stopping, preparation.

          Where the Ural does not pass with a gun on the platform, the Ural with the towed gun does not pass in the same way. So for cross-country ability a wheeled self-propelled gun and a towed gun are the same.
          1. rocket757 7 February 2020 19: 45 New
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            From practice, even a heavy “cart” that does not close with its wheels is easier to pull out of the same ditch than Ural, buried on the bridges itself.
            The trench does not jump in any way, that's for sure.
  4. Thrifty 7 February 2020 11: 35 New
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    With our realities, as it were, the Sketch program would not turn into the Cast program over time! That is, they talked, they spent the money, the results are unsatisfactory, we abandon this model, we get money for the new megasuperprototype. ..
  5. prior 7 February 2020 11: 39 New
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    "Cut the Shura, cut ... they are golden."
    Cut money under the guise of new military equipment and nothing more.
    1. demiurg 7 February 2020 11: 48 New
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      And where did you see the cut here?

      Drok and Phlox are needed by the army.
      1. prior 7 February 2020 13: 09 New
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        Belarusians based on the Shishigi type delivered 80 trunks charged with NURSs.
        Poured, so poured. And washed off.
        And here what? One mine with incomprehensible integrity? But how much expensive strapping around her.
        Is this effective in your opinion? Or is there nothing more for the military to shoot at ?!
        1. g1washntwn 7 February 2020 13: 59 New
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          Have you seen the spread of the 80 mm NURS package? The garden is good to plow, but to hammer nails is not.
          And here may be Krasnopol, Kitolov, Verge and something newer:
          https://topwar.ru/18181-korrektiruemye-snaryady.html
        2. Sanichsan 7 February 2020 14: 10 New
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          Quote: prior
          Belarusians based on the Shishigi type delivered 80 trunks charged with NURSs.

          Why should Russia do such an ersatzRSZO when there are quite full-time Grads, Hurricanes and Tornadoes put on stream? I understand why Belarusians, but what for?
          PS
          your children's wiring from the cartoon carnival looks funny wassat
          "he two-footed once, twice, and two, and you ride a horse one, two, three, four ... let's hold the horse, and you catch up on foot!" wassat
        3. Grits 7 February 2020 15: 18 New
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          Quote: prior
          Belarusians based on the Shishigi type delivered 80 trunks charged with NURSs.
          Poured, so poured. And washed off.

          Yes, like everyone is good. That's just the range ... no more than 2 km. By modern standards, he poured it under his feet.
          1. prior 7 February 2020 16: 21 New
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            TOSochka also does not hit far, but what an effect and result!
            1. Lopatov 7 February 2020 16: 26 New
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              MLRS are not able to solve all emerging problems. Especially at the battalion level.
              1. prior 7 February 2020 17: 25 New
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                I understand you correctly that now there is nothing to shoot at the ballon level?
                1. Lopatov 7 February 2020 18: 03 New
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                  Quote: prior
                  I understand you correctly that now there is nothing to shoot at the ballon level?

                  If you are not satisfied with the level of the Great Patriotic War, then yes, there is nothing
    2. Pavel57 7 February 2020 11: 55 New
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      That is, we have only cuts and new equipment does not arrive - neither in the air defense, nor in the Strategic Missile Forces?
  6. Old26 7 February 2020 12: 17 New
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    Quote: IL-18
    A sketch. Sounds good. Sketched, so a sketch of a dozen mines, and dumped. The concept seems correct, but what the troops say is more interesting than the description of the OCD.

    So now they are testing in the troops. In various climatic zones.
  7. Nikolaevich I 7 February 2020 12: 37 New
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    It is not clear how systems on different platforms can be combined in one "program"! Of course, "bad business, maybe not tricky," but it’s more understandable when "about everything" - one platform ... one chassis! If you like, put a mortar (better, 120 mm ...)., Or an "infantry gun", an easy MLRS can also be a bit like it, but it’s like that! All on one chassis, with maximum use of the same components, assemblies ...! If not full "station wagon", but as close to that as possible! Otherwise, it is from the "crafty"!
    1. Lopatov 7 February 2020 12: 46 New
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      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      It is not clear how systems on different platforms can be combined in one "program"

      The gun is one.
      Direct descendant of "Nona"
      1. Nikolaevich I 7 February 2020 13: 03 New
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        Quote: Spade
        The gun is one.

        And this, just, is not necessary!
        1. Lopatov 7 February 2020 13: 10 New
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          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          And this, just, is not necessary!

          I agree.
          Other options are possible. Specifically, in this case, apparently, the Sketch provides for the development of new systems for battalion artillery
          "A complex of artillery and mortar weapons is being developed for the Missile Forces and Artillery battalion unit “Sketch” with various options for the base chassis, including for equipping the Arctic units."(c) Gen. Salyukov
  8. Guru 7 February 2020 14: 02 New
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    Who knows, explain! Is he going to bullet 152 mm from the wheels ?? Is it simply invisible that no recoil system, or just an exhibition sample of plywood based on the Urals?
    1. Freedim 7 February 2020 15: 52 New
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      Quote: Guru
      Who knows, explain! Is he going to bullet 152 mm from the wheels ??

      (c) Chukchi is not a reader, Chukchi is a writer
      152 mm SAO on the chassis of an armored two-link tracked conveyor
    2. Lopatov 7 February 2020 16: 32 New
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      Quote: Guru
      Is he going to bullet 152 mm from the wheels ?? Is it simply invisible that no recoil system, or just an exhibition sample of plywood based on the Urals?

      Apparently, this is a mistake.
      This is a 120/122 gun. And in the photograph it’s exactly the development of the Soviet "Nona"
      Wheel chock in the box above the barrel
  9. Petrol cutter 7 February 2020 19: 25 New
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    What a twist!
    Ours also started a “shaitan car” to build ...
    And how are you planning to use it? What does Comrade Lopatov think about this?
    I trust only his authoritative opinion.
    ABOUT! Excuse me, but he already answered.