The latest howitzer 2S35 "Coalition-SV" will go into the army no earlier than 2022

Coalition-SV plans to complete state tests of the latest self-propelled artillery gun (SAO) in 2022. This was reported by the press service of Uralvagonzavod (UVZ).

An official representative of UVZ, answering journalists' questions during the international arms exhibition DefExpo 2020 in Indian Lucknow, said that the completion of the tests of the Coalition-SV is scheduled for 2022. The timing of the supply of a new self-propelled howitzer to the troops has not yet been determined, the Ministry of Defense will deal with this issue in the future according to the results of the tests.

The completion of tests of the 152-mm self-propelled artillery gun "Coalition-SV" is provided for in 2022. The issue of supplying CAO to arsenal is within the competence of the RF Ministry of Defense

- leads TASS statement of the representative.

The 152 mm 2C35 Coalition-SV self-propelled howitzer is designed to destroy command posts, communications centers, artillery and mortar batteries, and armored vehicles, including tanks, anti-tank weapons, air defense and missile defense systems, as well as manpower of a potential enemy. The shooting of the latest CAO is more automated and computerized, which allows to reach the rate of fire up to 10 rounds per minute. The howitzer can work in the "Flurry of Fire" mode, in which several shells fired from the gun at different angles, at the same time reach the goal.

First shown to the general public at the Victory Parade in 2015.

Comments

[Lamata]

Yes, the thing necessary in the troops.

[Shurik70]

The troops have a lot of what they need
In Kaluga, a repair and evacuation vehicle based on a tank was transported through the city center yesterday.
Who saw - guessing, from which they dragged through the city

[Lamata]

Veon technology happens according to the feed generally some steampunk, in our team the machine for digging was based on Kraz. It looked very brutal (1991)

[Alexga]

Yes, this is the usual ARV-1.

[Karaul73]

Since 2015 to experience? Yeah, the thing you need in the troops!

[awg75]

I do not believe. really would like to believe, but seeing reality I do not believe.

[Jager]

For a long time she goes to the army. And what is the range?

[L-39NG]

A bit of theory.
The "Coalition-SV" sistam, first of all, is not intended for direct combat contact with the enemy at short distances. This means that gas gassing (airing) of the fighting compartment can be solved by a system of fans and hatches, thus you can get rid of the ejector on the barrel, and, therefore, you can increase the gas pressure in the barrel, and, therefore, the flight range of the projectile. I don’t know how long, I’m not familiar with the tables, but I know that this can be done, even with the supplies that we have. As for the accuracy of hits, then the word is given to design engineers and electronics. In a foreign land they are already testing "Excalibur S", the road will be, but sometimes the "spool is small", but it is needed.

[Lopatov]

Quote: L-39NG

The “Coalition-SV” system, in the first place, is not intended for direct combat contact with the enemy at short distances. This means that the outgassing (ventilation) of the fighting compartment can be solved by a system of fans and hatches

8)))))))
One is not connected with the other

Quote: L-39NG

this way you can get rid of the ejector on the barrel

This is called "creating difficulties to overcome them successfully."
For instead of an ejector, it will be necessary, firstly, to swell a lot of money to protect equipment and mechanisms from aggressive powder gases, and secondly, to solve the problem of cleaning the fighting compartment from soot.
Which in the end will result in a huge amount of work.

Quote: L-39NG

but I know that this can be done, even with those supplies that are.

But the "Coalition" cannot use them by default. For, unlike all other Soviet / Russian self-propelled guns, it uses modular / cartridge loading rather than separate-case loading. In addition, for initiation, not a capsule sleeve is used, but a microwave device.

Quote: L-39NG

Regarding hit accuracy

All "Coalitions" are equipped with ballistic radar antennas. That definitely increases the accuracy of shooting with conventional ammunition.

[L-39NG]

To soot in BO, but how is ARMATA going to work? Whistle everyone?

[Warrior-80]

On Armata, gases do not get into the capsule at all, where equipment and soldiers are sitting

[L-39NG]

The conversation is not about a capsule, but about BO, where is the equipment, and in the tower of which, only an automatic loader? You were not so informed, although you were not informed at all

[Warrior-80]

Watch the video on YouTube shooting of Armata, all the electronics and basic precision equipment in the armored capsule separately from the automatic loader and shutter

[Warrior-80]

It’s clear that there are some nodes outside the capsule, but they are not so critically affected by the harmful effects of soot and gases

[L-39NG]

So this tower is only a weapon carrier? Supplies and automatic loader? Isn’t it cheap? Although the pictures there is such a census of electronics - the Chinese will envy, or rather, they would envy, if only yes. And why on earth have they not copied it yet? Already could sell.

[Lopatov]

We do not know how this is carried out in T-14. But there BO is much smaller, and the shutter is of a different design.
Well, the tank is unlikely to issue such a series.

[VO3A]

Why is she needed at all? It is not part of the network-centric system, or rather it can, but there is nowhere to enter. Targeting even from UAVs in real time it does not receive, this channel does not work in automatic mode, and in other modes in real time it is not possible ... Its fire power and modes are not in demand, only use it the old fashioned way for stationary targets at previously explored and specified coordinates, or shoot over the area .., and when shooting direct fire, as the MSTU is now used in all exercises ... WE don’t know how to use such new weapons apply, we don’t need it because of this ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: VO3A

It is not part of the network-centric system,

Anything can be included in the network-centric system, even such old tools as the ML-20

Quote: VO3A

Target designation even from UAVs in real time it does not receive

She doesn’t need it. For this, there are governing bodies that make decisions on fire destruction.

[VO3A]

Anything can be included in the network-centric system, even such old tools as the ML-20

What is it like ? Network-centric systems work in real time, dear storyteller! Do you even know what it is? I’m tired of listening to tales about your "organs" ... Their capabilities are so ridiculous that you should not even voice them and they do not work in modern war, in the form in which they exist ... Lopatov, you better do not go where you are not thinking ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: VO3A

What is it like ?

What's so complicated? In total, bring the coordinates of the target to the gun commander. Any electronic device at the level of a programmable calculator according to its capabilities (a modern cell phone is enough for the eyes) will give out a sight and an extension. Point and shoot. And no problem.

Quote: VO3A

I'm tired of listening to tales about your "organs" ...

These are not "fairy tales", this is life.
And here are your stories that no one makes decisions, everything turns out by itself, these are already fairy tales.

Quote: VO3A

and they do not work in modern warfare

Do you even know what war is? At least theoretically? I'm afraid not. So your complete game comes out. Like the requirements for the supply of information from UAVs to self-propelled guns. Which is absolutely not needed there.

[VO3A]

I know, and my father knew his grandfather, and ... more ... I’m a hereditary military, military intelligentsia, if you like, from the military class ... There is such a profession: Defend your homeland !!! Do you know?

[tarakan]

Grandfather thumped, father thumped and I ..... Yu. Profession: Bukhar

[Lopatov]

Quote: VO3A

I know, and my father knew his grandfather, and ... more ... I’m a hereditary military, military intelligentsia, if you like, ... from the military class by birth ..

To put it mildly, I can’t believe it.
Otherwise, you would understand such simple things.

[VO3A]

And you, that infallible or omnipotent .. This is your opinion no more, do not suffer from megalomania .. Have you already been explained and where did you put your tongue? You can remind again !!! No need to puff out your cheeks and run into trouble ..

[bk316]

from the military estate by birth.

The ensign dynasty in warehouses?
After all, after all, Lopatov is not Newton’s binomial, but the ABC writes ....

[Rzzz]

Quote: Spade

in defense of equipment and mechanisms from aggressive powder gases

Yes Lord. There are many kinds of mechanisms that even work under water. And in space. On Mars even.
And here some gases are just. Cope.

[Lopatov]

Quote: rzzz

Yes Lord. There are many kinds of mechanisms that even work under water. And in space. On Mars even.

Of course. But everything costs money.
You can put the block in the "Martian version", which will cost more than the rest of the SG.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Spade

which will cost more than the rest of the SG.

And the ejector is holes in the barrel that degrade the characteristics of the gun.
So here it is necessary to see what is more preferable, the price may not be the main thing.

[Lopatov]

Quote: rzzz

And the ejector is holes in the barrel that degrade the characteristics of the gun

Which significantly reduce the gas contamination of the fighting compartment. Especially during intensive firing, which is common for artillery. It also helps cool the barrel. It is possible that an ejector also participates in the process of alcoholic irrigation of the barrel after a shot.

And this is exactly what is preferable.

[Rzzz]

Gas contamination is dangerous for people, but they are not in the uninhabited tower.
Barrel cooling? A stream of hot powder gases?
It is easier to purge by creating excess pressure in the tower with a small fan. Then, when you open the shutter, the barrel is perfectly blown with cool air, and nothing will get into the tower.

[Lopatov]

Quote: rzzz

Gas contamination is dangerous for people, but they are not in the uninhabited tower.

Gas contamination is no less dangerous for mechanisms, as well as electronics and other things. Plus chemical aggressiveness of powder gases.

Quote: rzzz

Barrel cooling? A stream of hot powder gases?

E .....
You need to clarify how, in fact, the ejector works.

Quote: rzzz

Purge is easier to do by creating excess pressure in the tower

How do you propose to seal it in the presence of a mechanism for supplying shells and charges from the ground? Lug shells and modules through lock cameras?

[Alex777]

For a long time she goes to the army. And what is the range?

It takes a long time because it does not look like anything. Solid news.
Range, according to open sources, up to 70 km. Rate of fire - 18 h / min.

[Grits]

Quote: Alex777

It takes a long time because it does not look like anything. Solid news.
Range, according to open sources, up to 70 km. Rate of fire - 18 h / min.

If there is such data, please tell us about the news. It is desirable in comparison with other self-propelled guns (the same Mstoy or Acacia, for example). Not all specialists in artillery are here, like Lopatov. Personally, to me, far from this - so she outwardly differs little from Msta.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gritsa

Personally, to me, far from this - so she outwardly differs little from Msta.

Only outwardly.
In real life, this is basically a different tool.

As I wrote above, you have to pay for everything. Including for fully automatic loading.
Only one fact - for shooting from the "Coalition" you can only use the shell itself from the old one. He only needs a new fuse. Because there will be no one to manually "turn the tap on", unscrew the cap. " The charge is again new, modular. Place old alternating charges in a brass or steel / plastic sleeve.

Well and so on

[Alex777]

If there is such data, please shine on us ...

Laziness on an Internet to see for yourself?
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2825067.html

[Alex777]

http://oruzhie.info/artilleriya/724-2s35-koalitsiya-sv

[kjhg]

And the Coalition, and Boomerang, and Kurganets will complete the test no earlier than 2022. But they have been participating in parades since 2015, and they began to discuss and brag about each iron from 2010 onwards. In Soviet times, the situation was exactly the opposite. In order to form an objective picture, the author does not want to recall how many Coalitions should have been put into the army according to GPV 2011 -2020?

[Prjanik]

The rearmament program has priorities, and the Coalitions and Kurganians with the Boomerangs are far from the most basic.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Prjanik

The rearmament program has priorities, and the Coalitions and Kurganians with the Boomerangs are far from the most basic.

And, you know, we believe you “by word” ... Just to calm the soul and the joy of the body, could you give an approximate list (or a link to it) of those priorities with which the Russian armed forces are overwhelmed?
These "shows" are the worst bluster. The country needs real installations, real weapons, and not projects and prospects. Or report to the enemy so that he is not in a hurry - he waits until 2022?
I look at the materials of investigations about corruption, the exact opposite. Build, steal, steal without waiting 2022. Moreover - ahead of time and for the future!
And here...

The 152-mm self-propelled howitzer 2S35 "Coalition-SV" is designed to destroy command posts, communication centers, artillery and mortar batteries, armored vehicles, including tanks, anti-tank weapons, air defense and missile defense systems, as well as manpower of a potential enemy. The shooting of the newest CAO is more automated and computerized, which allows you to achieve a rate of fire of up to 10 rounds per minute. Howitzer can work in the "Flurry of Fire" mode, in which several shells fired from a gun at different angles simultaneously reach the target ...

... but only after 2022 (or 2024?) year ...

[Prjanik]

First of all, these are strategic and hypersonic weapons, missile defense and air defense systems. I don't have to take my word for it, you can just include common sense.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Prjanik

You don't have to take my word for it, you can only include common sense.

Therefore, it is written:

And, you know, we believe you “by word” ... Only, to calm the soul and joy of the body

BUT!!! Let's calmly, without shouting "Bravo!" and salute shooting, we’ll examine the entire list of priorities.
Air defense systems. I understand that it is the provision of priority for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation that excludes squandering potential and equipment to countries that are neither geopolitical partners nor comrades in arms ... Or is it not?
It is good that with hypersonic weapons we are not standing at the “market” yet, BUT !!! Didn't Vladimir Vladimirovich want to share this weapon with Trump just now? By the way, the new Sarmat complex, about which in 2013 they said:

In 2018, Satan will be replaced by even more terrible missiles ...
“At the turn of 2018-2020, we expect to receive a qualitatively new missile system with characteristics that are not inferior to its predecessor. During the creation of the Sarmat missile, the requirements for promising strategic missile systems (RKSN) that are most achievable at the current level of development of the domestic military-industrial complex will be implemented, ”Karakaev said.

Look for a recent article where the numbers appeared in the delivery dates: 2021-2022 ...
I’ll just keep silent about the Su-57 ...
Sorry, the most important points:
- Does this weapon stamp one plant?
- lack of money oppresses the country?
- RV and A are celebrated on November 19, but in view of the essence and line-up they are different ... they are not sharpened in one workshop ...
That's what I'm talking about ...

[Prjanik]

I never shout "Hurray", restrainedly rejoice at some successes.
You understand that we can talk about this mainly with assumptions, he also has a top priority in terms of secrecy .. Not so long ago, nobody knew about any Vanguards, Daggers and Relights, but now they are in service. And what we are doing now, too, no one will say, and even more so where and in what quantities it is stamped ..
What we know, briefly. That this year they are going to switch to the S-500, it is logical that the S-400 is exported, here is the money Almaz-Antey and the geopolitical influence of Russia, with the A-235, I think everything is fine, since they are successfully experiencing it. I suppose that the Zircons finished, and as for the sale, the GDP just troll Amers. Launch new Boreas and upgrade the Tu-160. And as for Sarmat, it is obvious that he should not just copy the Governor, but qualitatively surpass those characteristics. Somewhere slower things are going, somewhere breakthroughs, but the caravan is going. The Defense Ministry knows better what is needed today, to allocate resources for them to the Vanguards or Boomerangs, or some other project.
Therefore, it frustrates me when the terms are shifted to the right, for example, on submarines, and not very, when it comes to something not very important for our defense capabilities, and the United States does not have a rubber budget.

[Alf]

Quote: Prjanik

and now they are in service.

They are "adopted" for service, but how many and where are they?

[Prjanik]

Here is a schaz how I will write the exact number with coordinates.

[Alf]

Quote: Prjanik

Here is a schaz how I will write the exact number with coordinates.

Under the former consul, Gai Borealis Alkoligule, a lot of things were also taken in mind, and then it turned out that all these news in a single copy exist.

[Prjanik]

Your case, unfortunately, we, couch experts, do not report such things. The main thing is that the enemy does not doubt that we have something to answer.

[Alf]

Quote: Prjanik

such things are not reported to us sofa experts.

It is truth too.

Quote: Prjanik

The main thing is that the enemy does not doubt that we have something to answer.

You also need to bluff until a certain point, and after it you just need to lay out the cards on the table. And, God forbid, these were trump cards, not sixes.

[Prjanik]

Well, by some indirect signs, I can judge that there are trump cards. For example. It is no accident that under Gorbi, that under Gai Borealis, the West adored the weak, bending Russia, and now we are again a world evil and scared, as was the case with the USSR.

[Alf]

Quote: Prjanik

and now we are again a world evil and scared, as it was during the USSR.

Not a damn thing. It’s just that now the states need an external enemy for their economy.
And no one will fight with us, why fight, if you can buy from the inside.

[Prjanik]

To do this, China would be enough for them, and so they simply disperse forces and resources. And to modernize their nuclear triad from the time of the collapse of the USSR until recently, they had nothing to do, and now they are in a hurry.

[Alf]

Quote: Prjanik

To do this, China would be enough for them, and so they simply disperse forces and resources. And to modernize their nuclear triad from the time of the collapse of the USSR until recently, they had nothing to do.

Perhaps you are right, but I have long ceased to consider the true elite of the United States to be mentally retarded.

[Alf]

Quote: Prjanik

And to modernize their nuclear triad from the time of the collapse of the USSR until recently, they had nothing to do.

But pouring money into the nuclear industry is an excellent idea, for this there is a terrible external enemy, even two Russia and China. So just senators pennies do not throw.

[Prjanik]

All the same, nuclear energy is a separate song, here there is a crisis and a search for alternative energy sources, such as thermonuclear, and competition with Rosatom .. And so they were specifically concerned about warheads and carriers.

[Prjanik]

Quote: Alf

Perhaps you are right, but I have long ceased to consider the true elite of the United States to be mentally retarded.

They are not at all mentally retarded, they just have circumstances and urgent needs. So the rivalry with the USSR ended, and everything slowed down, everyone relaxed, they simply engaged in robbery on a global scale and "hammered" on further technological development.
On the rights of nonsense and hypothesis, maybe someone needed a real restoration of Russia as a superpower, especially in military terms, so that this would give an impetus to the further technological development of civilization, because "peaceful" competition with China does not give it.

[Alf]

Quote: Prjanik

As delusions and hypotheses

This is not nonsense, any system can develop only if it has an external enemy.
And as for Russia, now they are throwing minuses to me, but here the subtle game from the states-Russia should look like a powerful external enemy of the United States, but in fact it is not - the dollar, the Central Bank, etc.

[Prjanik]

The point is that opponents should in fact be strong and formidable so that the arms and technology race lasts for decades, following the example of the USSR and NATO, simple visibility will not work. I mean, this might not be necessary for some side of the side, but for civilization, someone or something over states .. Well, okay, there will definitely not be evidence for this.)
And so, for obvious reasons, we will probably not find out soon the military secret about the quality and quantity of our latest strategic weapons. But the simple logic is that our MO says yes, the European say yes, the Pentagon says yes. And what is the probability that those who speak are all fairy tales mistaken? Big enough for me.

[Alf]

Quote: Prjanik

But the simple logic is that our MO says yes, the European say yes, the Pentagon says yes. And what is the probability that those who speak are all fairy tales mistaken?

There is a great deal of truth in your words, but in the late 70s the Pentagon strenuously knocked out funds from the Senate, saying that a new MIG-31 fighter appeared in the USSR, America is defenseless in front of it and urgently needs allocations for a new plane, though without mentioning, that the MIG-31 is an interceptor.

[bk316]

Air defense systems.

Well, they themselves wrote the priorities of the air defense and strategic missile forces plans for deliveries to the troops are fulfilled, and even a little ahead of schedule. OCD plans are being implemented.
A Su-57 - YES ONE PLANT STAMPING.
And by the way, Sarmat will also do one plant.

[Grits]

Quote: Prjanik

First of all, these are strategic and hypersonic weapons, missile defense and air defense systems.

This weapon has always been and will be necessary in the first place. And in priority it will be constantly, so to speak - in the permanent mode of necessity in a non-stop style. But this does not mean at all that other types and types of weapons should suffer because of this priority.

[Lopatov]

Quote: ROSS 42

The howitzer can operate in "Flurry of Fire" mode

In a pseudo-salvo mode called "Flurry of Fire" by the translators of the Discovery Channel, even a mortar from the times of the Great Patriotic War can work.
You just have to count a lot.

[VO3A]

Yes, my friend, you are forever behind .. A coalition with the Kurgan people can be put on a par with only old-timers who have lost their minds ... They fight in different echelons in different echelons ... they are used differently .. If the role and importance of the former increases, then the latter moving further in the ass ... But this is not for you, wander on with old concepts ..

[Prjanik]

So they are here in the same row, because we are talking for financing on a leftover basis, and not a role in hostilities .. Over there in Ukraine, artillery and MLRS played the main role, precision weapons all the more "rule". Apparently so far the "Coalition", and even not on a reinforced chassis, is not so necessary, such an undercoalition, and for local conflicts today, "Msty-SM" is enough, with Krasnopolye if necessary.

[major071]

Now I'm wondering what the author has to do with it, because this is news, i.e. statement of fact. The representative of UVZ told about the tests of the "Coalition-SV" and the timing of their completion. All. The journalist put the words of this representative on paper and published them in the media. In this news, there is no more information about what one said, then passed on to another. And here are the claims to the author? Perhaps this post does not have much to do with this news, but lately I have begun to notice more and more often that most of the site visitors do not even look in which heading the information is published, stamping comments like "in this article". The news is not an article, it is the transmission of information in a short form. But when analysts and authors of "VO" expand this topic in another heading, then the article will appear.
I apologize in advance to those who offended or those who were offended

[Alf]

Quote: major071

I wonder

Herr Major, where the hell have you been for so long? Are we tired of waiting for your creations of the epistolary genre?

[major071]

Everybody quietly bites us,
Believe me sir, the genre is not forgotten!
But all in business and the Muse does not go
And the hustle and bustle of the bustle of something there ...

[Alf]

Who is it? Specify!

[WILL]

major071
Duck can still be distracted by you?
Drink a hundred grams before bedtime
Waking up in the morning, doing exercises
Forget about vanity ... and everything will be all right!

Indeed, for a long time there were no your poems!

[major071]

The back does not bend, shot through the lower back
Great labors I should bend over
The hand does not rise to take the pen
It became hard for me to write poetry ...
But, by the way, I'm lying, you really will forgive me
Take this to sick delirium
Healthy as an ox, no need for a ballot
Believe everything, believe me, sir, laziness ...
Yes, and why hide it, everyone knows it
Missing topics for poetry, believe the poet.
And the news, no matter how you comment on it
They don’t give me topics for thoughts and satire ...
And in this I am, alas, not alone.
To write something, I need to give a kick!
But Muse somewhere, su / ka, went for a walk
Therefore, poetry, excuse me, is not enough.
They are not at all, why, sir, to lie
Empty inkwell, empty my notebook
And the feather is broken ... While I'm looking for something else
Here’s how I find it, so we’ll close the topic

[Lamata]

Unfortunately you are right

[carstorm 11]

and what good was the opposite in the Union? the fact that they took raw equipment into service and completed it for years in the army? the same window dressing only in profile)

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: carstorm 11

and what good was the opposite in the Union?

The Union was not allowed to build yachts at the price of military frigates, and the whole world shot from AK-47 ...
The USSR never appeared under the white flag, and the military in the USSR did not hesitate to wear a military uniform. No need to refer to the past, which annoys you. Please us with the present, from which you come to indescribable delight.

[carstorm 11]

it doesn’t annoy me at all) I just say what I see or know) and I didn’t hesitate to wear uniforms from the word at all) as for the white flag, sport in the Union was under the complete control of the state and went wherever they ordered from above. Now the state does not have such opportunities. such a time.

[NEXUS]

Quote: kjhg

to recall how many coalitions were supposed to be delivered to the army according to GPV 2011 -2020?

The developers have nothing to do with it ... politicians and managers have very long tongues in the defense industry, well, love for show-offs, despite the fact that they are not able to finance and control the process. This also sins the GDP, marking with tongue, like a broomstick about weapons that have no taxes.
With this, I think, in the defense industry it is necessary to strongly clean the ranks of these same managers who do not do nichrome, but they shift the terms very well to the right, feeding people breakfast.

[kjhg]

Quote: NEXUS

in the defense industry it is necessary to strongly clean the ranks of these same managers who don’t do nichrome, but they shift the terms very well to the right, feeding people breakfast.

I completely agree, you need to clean the ranks. However, in reality we see the opposite trend.

[orionvitt]

Quote: kjhg

In Soviet times, the situation was exactly the opposite.

Nothing like this. If you had to show something, especially to foreigners, always first of all, at least in aviation and rocketry. Even prototypes went into business. They will show the audience on an air parade, talk about the latest aircraft, and then, another 5-7 years they test, before entering service. The shortest time was on the example of the ZIS-3 gun. Gos. tests, she passed in two days. But the times were different.

[Jager]

Those state tests were an empty formality, because by that time the ZIS-3 guns were already at the front and showed themselves very well.

[Grits]

Quote: Jager

Those state tests were an empty formality, because by that time the ZIS-3 guns were already at the front and showed themselves very well.

The most striking thing is the term for adopting another legendary equipment - PTRD and PTRS. From decision making to mass production - MONTH!

[standan]

In Soviet times, the situation was exactly the opposite.

In Soviet times, Nikita Sergeevich generally drove the mockups at the parade and nothing, the adversaries were impressed :)

[VO3A]

Why do we need a new weapon. if our General Staff and our army are fighting in the old way ?! We don’t need it, we won’t be able to realize this new weapon, its capabilities ... This also applies to the Coalition and Almaty and Kurgan and SU-57 and Tornado ... and UAVs ... We have death row spotters with walkie-talkies, scouts with The warriors on the front and in the air look out the window and give the coordinates if they have time ... We shove people everywhere ahead, women give off, URA Gerasimov and KO ... They don’t understand how the modern battle is conducted and how it should be waged ...

[alex aircraft]

And they work quickly and efficiently with the coalition with t 14, not like with an alliance. Glory to the great PR man and his great managers !!

[Lamata]

I hope you are joking?

[Graz]

State tests of the newest self-propelled artillery gun (SAO) "Coalition-SV" are planned to be completed in 2022
______________
Shaw again?

[Thrifty]

Or it won't work at all. .. There are also complaints about the chassis. It is weak for this gun, but on the chassis from Armata the Coalition will not be made. It was not originally designed for a gaemku for the Armata, as a result the car is "of limited use"!

[Zaurbek]

Although the chassis of ARMAT was positioned as a single and promising. It also seemed strange to me at the parade that self-propelled guns were rolling on another cart.

[Glory1974]

Complaints also have a sort of chassis. She is weak for this gun,

In Chechnya, a battery of self-propelled guns stood next to us. After 2 weeks of fighting and regular fire (up to 2000 rounds per day on the battery), the equipment began to surrender. The brakes cease to hold, the cars roll back after a shot, all the equipment loosens on its mounts, etc.
So the problem is not new, and maybe in principle has no solution. Then the resource is important, how many shots can be done without repair.

[Simargl]

Quote: glory1974

After 2 weeks of fighting and regular fire (up to 2000 rounds per day on the battery), the equipment began to surrender.

5000-7000 shots per barrel? Yes, there are trunks, probably need to be changed ...

[Glory1974]

maybe trunks too. It was about a base that could not stand it.

[Super]

I am from Chelyabinsk. Everything will be, work. Do not rush.

[Thrifty]

Super, do you disrespect your city, since you write its name with a small letter! And about "everything will be" just tired of hearing! We have a lot of things, everything will be later canceled due to lack of money, or rather, the desire to give money for this or that product. So, I don’t believe in such promises for a long time, like "everything will be"!

[Super]

And move to live in the Urals and respect. And probably you don’t believe it. Watch TV a little and rarely listen to the president.

[Thrifty]

Super, I have enough communication with those who gave our whole life to our defense industry! The connections remained with the people, and there is also a REAL situation in some military "products". We will not be told the truth that the development of many products has reached a dead end, because they wanted everything at once. Now, they do not know how to get out of these problems, taking into account the fact that one or another weapon was made by some people, and completely different ones will alter. And, more often than not, those who redo are very far from their work!

[Alf]

Quote: Super

rarely listen to the president.

No, we listen regularly, which channel you don’t turn on, you’ll surely run into the Wise One. And to trust him, not to respect himself.

[Zaurbek]

And about the wheeled self-propelled guns silence!

[Super]

It's not time to talk about her yet. Secret development.

[Lamata]

Why is it needed?

[Zaurbek]

Mobility is better .... and price

[Alf]

Quote: Zaurbek

Mobility is better .... and price

Mobility is good in Europe, which is all paved.

[Alf]

Quote: Alf

Mobility is good in Europe, which is all paved.

And with us!

[Grits]

Quote: Alf

And with us!

Spin Tires is resting ...

[Zaurbek]

It is good everywhere ... including when transported by ships and airplanes. Moreover, the table itself is a new one and a long-range weapon.

[Grits]

Quote: Alf

Mobility is good in Europe, which is all paved.

Therefore, you need to fight in Europe, not ours.

[Alf]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Alf

Mobility is good in Europe, which is all paved.

Therefore, you need to fight in Europe, not ours.

But who argues, it is much better to break furniture in the neighbor’s house, and not in his own. That is why the GSVG and caught up with such a sucher on the adversary.

[Sailor]

How long we lagged behind in development is just a shame, the Germans on their "2000" already 15 years ago mastered the "barrage of fire" mode.

[Zaurbek]

This and MSTA can