The latest howitzer 2S35 "Coalition-SV" will go into the army no earlier than 2022

The latest howitzer 2S35 "Coalition-SV" will go into the army no earlier than 2022

Coalition-SV plans to complete state tests of the latest self-propelled artillery gun (SAO) in 2022. This was reported by the press service of Uralvagonzavod (UVZ).


An official representative of UVZ, answering journalists' questions during the international arms exhibition DefExpo 2020 in Indian Lucknow, said that the completion of the tests of the Coalition-SV is scheduled for 2022. The timing of the supply of a new self-propelled howitzer to the troops has not yet been determined, the Ministry of Defense will deal with this issue in the future according to the results of the tests.

The completion of tests of the 152-mm self-propelled artillery gun "Coalition-SV" is provided for in 2022. The issue of supplying CAO to arsenal is within the competence of the RF Ministry of Defense

- leads TASS statement of the representative.

The 152 mm 2C35 Coalition-SV self-propelled howitzer is designed to destroy command posts, communications centers, artillery and mortar batteries, and armored vehicles, including tanks, anti-tank weapons, air defense and missile defense systems, as well as manpower of a potential enemy. The shooting of the latest CAO is more automated and computerized, which allows to reach the rate of fire up to 10 rounds per minute. The howitzer can work in the "Flurry of Fire" mode, in which several shells fired from the gun at different angles, at the same time reach the goal.

First shown to the general public at the Victory Parade in 2015.
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  1. Lamata 6 February 2020 12: 06 New
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    Yes, the thing necessary in the troops.
    1. Shurik70 6 February 2020 12: 42 New
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      The troops have a lot of what they need
      In Kaluga, a repair and evacuation vehicle based on a tank was transported through the city center yesterday.
      Who saw - guessing, from which they dragged through the city
      soldier
      1. Lamata 6 February 2020 12: 54 New
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        Veon technology happens according to the feed generally some steampunk, in our team the machine for digging was based on Kraz. It looked very brutal (1991)
      2. Alexga 6 February 2020 16: 51 New
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        Yes, this is the usual ARV-1.
    2. Karaul73 6 February 2020 14: 39 New
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      Since 2015 to experience? Yeah, the thing you need in the troops!
  2. awg75 6 February 2020 12: 09 New
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    I do not believe. really would like to believe, but seeing reality I do not believe.
  3. Jager 6 February 2020 12: 09 New
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    For a long time she goes to the army. And what is the range?
    1. L-39NG 6 February 2020 13: 28 New
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      A bit of theory.
      The “Coalition-SV” system, in the first place, is not intended for direct combat contact with the enemy at short distances. This means that the exhaust compartment can be degassed (ventilated) by a system of fans and hatches, so you can get rid of the ejector on the barrel, and, therefore, you can increase the gas pressure in the barrel, and, therefore, the projectile range. I don’t know how much, I’m not familiar with tables, but I know that this can be done, even with those supplies that are. As for the accuracy of hits, here is the word to design engineers and electronics. In a foreign land they are already experiencing "Excalibur S", it will be expensive, but sometimes the "spool" is small, but it is needed.
      1. Lopatov 6 February 2020 13: 59 New
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        Quote: L-39NG
        The “Coalition-SV” system, in the first place, is not intended for direct combat contact with the enemy at short distances. This means that the outgassing (ventilation) of the fighting compartment can be solved by a system of fans and hatches

        8)))))))
        One is not connected with the other

        Quote: L-39NG
        this way you can get rid of the ejector on the barrel

        This is called "creating difficulties for their successful overcoming."
        For instead of an ejector, it will be necessary, firstly, to swell a lot of money to protect equipment and mechanisms from aggressive powder gases, and secondly, to solve the problem of cleaning the fighting compartment from soot.
        Which in the end will result in a huge amount of work.

        Quote: L-39NG
        but I know that this can be done, even with those supplies that are.

        That's just the "Coalition" by default can not use them. For, unlike all other Soviet / Russian self-propelled guns, it uses not separate-shell and modular / slug loading. Moreover, not a capsule sleeve, but a microwave device is used for initiation.


        Quote: L-39NG
        Regarding hit accuracy

        All Coalitions are equipped with ballistic radar antennas. Which definitely increases the accuracy of conventional ammunition.
        1. L-39NG 6 February 2020 14: 35 New
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          To soot in BO, but how is ARMATA going to work? Whistle everyone?
          1. Warrior-80 6 February 2020 15: 21 New
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            On Armata, gases do not get into the capsule at all, where equipment and soldiers are sitting
            1. L-39NG 6 February 2020 15: 31 New
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              The conversation is not about a capsule, but about BO, where is the equipment, and in the tower of which, only an automatic loader? You were not so informed, although you were not informed at all
              1. Warrior-80 6 February 2020 15: 38 New
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                Watch the video on YouTube shooting of Armata, all the electronics and basic precision equipment in the armored capsule separately from the automatic loader and shutter
              2. Warrior-80 6 February 2020 15: 43 New
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                It’s clear that there are some nodes outside the capsule, but they are not so critically affected by the harmful effects of soot and gases
                1. L-39NG 6 February 2020 15: 50 New
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                  So this tower is only a weapon carrier? Supplies and automatic loader? Isn’t it cheap? Although the pictures there is such a census of electronics - the Chinese will envy, or rather, they would envy, if only yes. And why on earth have they not copied it yet? Already could sell.
          2. Lopatov 6 February 2020 17: 59 New
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            We do not know how this is carried out in T-14. But there BO is much smaller, and the shutter is of a different design.
            Well, the tank is unlikely to issue such a series.
        2. VO3A 6 February 2020 15: 51 New
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          Why is she needed at all? It is not part of the network-centric system, or rather it can, but there is nowhere to enter. Targeting even from UAVs in real time it does not receive, this channel does not work in automatic mode, and in other modes in real time it is not possible ... Its fire power and modes are not in demand, only use it the old fashioned way for stationary targets at previously explored and specified coordinates, or shoot over the area .., and when shooting direct fire, as the MSTU is now used in all exercises ... WE don’t know how to use such new weapons apply, we don’t need it because of this ...
          1. Lopatov 6 February 2020 18: 02 New
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            Quote: VO3A
            It is not part of the network-centric system,

            Anything can be included in the network-centric system, even such old tools as the ML-20

            Quote: VO3A
            Target designation even from UAVs in real time it does not receive

            She doesn’t need it. For this, there are governing bodies that make decisions on fire destruction.
            1. VO3A 6 February 2020 18: 37 New
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              Anything can be included in the network-centric system, even such old tools as the ML-20

              What is it like ? Network-centric systems work in real time, dear storyteller! Do you even know what it is? Tales about your "organs" are already tired of listening ... Their capabilities are so ridiculous that they aren’t even worth voicing and they don’t work in the modern war, in the form in which they exist ... Shovels, it’s better not to go where you are don't think ...
              1. Lopatov 6 February 2020 19: 16 New
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                Quote: VO3A
                What is it like ?

                What's so complicated? In total, bring the coordinates of the target to the gun commander. Any electronic device at the level of a programmable calculator according to its capabilities (a modern cell phone is enough for the eyes) will give out a sight and an extension. Point and shoot. And no problem.


                Quote: VO3A
                Tales about your "organs" are already tired of listening ...

                This is not a "fairy tale", this is life.
                And here are your stories that no one makes decisions, everything turns out by itself, these are already fairy tales.

                Quote: VO3A
                and they do not work in modern warfare

                Do you even know what war is? At least theoretically? I'm afraid not. So your complete game comes out. Like the requirements for the supply of information from UAVs to self-propelled guns. Which is absolutely not needed there.
                1. VO3A 6 February 2020 19: 57 New
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                  I know, and my father knew his grandfather, and ... more ... I’m a hereditary military, military intelligentsia, if you like, from the military class ... There is such a profession: Defend your homeland !!! Do you know?
                  1. tarakan 7 February 2020 00: 13 New
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                    Grandfather thumped, father thumped and I ..... Yu. Profession: Bukhar drinks
                  2. Lopatov 7 February 2020 12: 47 New
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                    Quote: VO3A
                    I know, and my father knew his grandfather, and ... more ... I’m a hereditary military, military intelligentsia, if you like, ... from the military class by birth ..

                    To put it mildly, I can’t believe it.
                    Otherwise, you would understand such simple things.
                    1. VO3A 9 February 2020 16: 01 New
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                      And you, that infallible or omnipotent .. This is your opinion no more, do not suffer from megalomania .. Have you already been explained and where did you put your tongue? You can remind again !!! No need to puff out your cheeks and run into trouble ..
                  3. bk316 7 February 2020 15: 07 New
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                    from the military estate by birth.

                    The ensign dynasty in warehouses?
                    After all, after all, Lopatov is not Newton’s binomial, but the ABC writes ....
        3. Rzzz 6 February 2020 20: 07 New
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          Quote: Spade
          in defense of equipment and mechanisms from aggressive powder gases

          Yes Lord. There are many kinds of mechanisms that even work under water. And in space. On Mars even.
          And here some gases are just. Cope.
          1. Lopatov 7 February 2020 12: 49 New
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            Quote: rzzz
            Yes Lord. There are many kinds of mechanisms that even work under water. And in space. On Mars even.

            Of course. But everything costs money.
            You can put the block in the "Martian version", which will cost more than the rest of the SG.
            1. Rzzz 7 February 2020 18: 16 New
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              Quote: Spade
              which will cost more than the rest of the SG.

              And the ejector is holes in the barrel that degrade the characteristics of the gun.
              So here it is necessary to see what is more preferable, the price may not be the main thing.
              1. Lopatov 7 February 2020 18: 29 New
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                Quote: rzzz
                And the ejector is holes in the barrel that degrade the characteristics of the gun

                Which significantly reduce the gas contamination of the fighting compartment. Especially during intensive firing, which is common for artillery. It also helps cool the barrel. It is possible that an ejector also participates in the process of alcoholic irrigation of the barrel after a shot.

                And this is exactly what is preferable.
                1. Rzzz 7 February 2020 19: 31 New
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                  Gas contamination is dangerous for people, but they are not in the uninhabited tower.
                  Barrel cooling? A stream of hot powder gases?
                  It is easier to purge by creating excess pressure in the tower with a small fan. Then, when you open the shutter, the barrel is perfectly blown with cool air, and nothing will get into the tower.
                  1. Lopatov 8 February 2020 19: 59 New
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                    Quote: rzzz
                    Gas contamination is dangerous for people, but they are not in the uninhabited tower.

                    Gas contamination is no less dangerous for mechanisms, as well as electronics and other things. Plus chemical aggressiveness of powder gases.

                    Quote: rzzz
                    Barrel cooling? A stream of hot powder gases?

                    E .....
                    You need to clarify how, in fact, the ejector works.

                    Quote: rzzz
                    Purge is easier to do by creating excess pressure in the tower

                    How do you propose to seal it in the presence of a mechanism for supplying shells and charges from the ground? Lug shells and modules through lock cameras?
    2. Alex777 6 February 2020 17: 36 New
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      For a long time she goes to the army. And what is the range?

      It takes a long time because it does not look like anything. Solid news.
      Range, according to open sources, up to 70 km. Rate of fire - 18 h / min.
      1. Grits 7 February 2020 07: 46 New
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        Quote: Alex777
        It takes a long time because it does not look like anything. Solid news.
        Range, according to open sources, up to 70 km. Rate of fire - 18 h / min.

        If there is such data, please tell us about the news. It is desirable in comparison with other self-propelled guns (the same Mstoy or Acacia, for example). Not all specialists in artillery are here, like Lopatov. Personally, to me, far from this - so she outwardly differs little from Msta.
        1. Lopatov 7 February 2020 12: 57 New
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          Quote: Gritsa
          Personally, to me, far from this - so she outwardly differs little from Msta.

          Only outwardly.
          In real life, this is basically a different tool.

          As I wrote above, you have to pay for everything. Including for fully automatic loading.
          Only one fact - only the shell itself can be used for firing from the Coalition. He only needs a new fuse. Because there will be nobody to manually "tap on" o, screw the cap. " The charge is again new - modular. Place old variable charges in a brass or steel / plastic sleeve.

          Well and so on
        2. Alex777 8 February 2020 15: 58 New
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          If there is such data, please shine on us ...

          Laziness on an Internet to see for yourself? wink
          https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2825067.html
          1. Alex777 8 February 2020 16: 11 New
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            http://oruzhie.info/artilleriya/724-2s35-koalitsiya-sv
  4. kjhg 6 February 2020 12: 14 New
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    And the Coalition, and Boomerang, and Kurganets will complete the test no earlier than 2022. But they have been participating in parades since 2015, and they began to discuss and brag about each iron from 2010 onwards. In Soviet times, the situation was exactly the opposite. In order to form an objective picture, the author does not want to recall how many Coalitions should have been put into the army according to GPV 2011 -2020?
    1. Prjanik 6 February 2020 12: 22 New
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      The rearmament program has priorities, and the Coalitions and Kurganians with the Boomerangs are far from the most basic.
      1. Ross xnumx 6 February 2020 12: 40 New
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        Quote: Prjanik
        The rearmament program has priorities, and the Coalitions and Kurganians with the Boomerangs are far from the most basic.

        And, you know, we believe you “by word” ... Just to calm the soul and the joy of the body, could you give an approximate list (or a link to it) of those priorities with which the Russian armed forces are overwhelmed? belay
        These "shows" are the worst bluster. The country needs real installations, real weapons, and not projects and prospects. Or report to the enemy so that he is not in a hurry - he waits until 2022?
        I look at the materials of investigations about corruption, the exact opposite. Build, steal, steal without waiting 2022. Moreover - ahead of time and for the future!
        And here...
        The 152C-mm 2C35 Coalition-SV self-propelled howitzer is designed to destroy command posts, communications centers, artillery and mortar batteries, armored vehicles, including tanks, anti-tank weapons, air defense and missile defense systems, as well as manpower of a potential enemy. The shooting of the latest SAO is more automated and computerized, which allows to achieve a rate of fire of up to 10 rounds per minute. Howitzer can work in the "Flurry of Fire" mode, in which several shells fired from the gun at different angles simultaneously achieve the goal ...

        ... but only after 2022 (or 2024?) year ... request
        1. Prjanik 6 February 2020 12: 46 New
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          First of all, these are strategic and hypersonic weapons, missile defense and air defense systems. You don’t have to take my word for it; you can only include common sense.
          1. Ross xnumx 6 February 2020 13: 36 New
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            Quote: Prjanik
            It’s not necessary to take my word for it, you can only include common sense.

            Therefore, it is written:
            And, you know, we believe you “by word” ... Only, to calm the soul and joy of the body

            BUT!!! Let's calmly, without shouting "Bravo!" and salute shooting, we’ll examine the entire list of priorities.
            Air defense systems. I understand that it is the provision of priority for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation that excludes squandering potential and equipment to countries that are neither geopolitical partners nor comrades in arms ... Or is it not?
            It is good that with hypersonic weapons we are not standing at the “market” yet, BUT !!! Didn't Vladimir Vladimirovich want to share this weapon with Trump just now? By the way, the new Sarmat complex, about which in 2013 they said:
            In 2018, Satan will be replaced by even more terrible missiles ...
            “At the turn of 2018-2020, we expect to receive a qualitatively new missile system with characteristics that are not inferior to its predecessor. During the creation of the Sarmat missile, the requirements for promising strategic missile systems (RKSN) that are most achievable at the current level of development of the domestic military-industrial complex will be implemented, ”Karakaev said.

            Look for a recent article where the numbers appeared in the delivery dates: 2021-2022 ... request
            I’ll just keep silent about the Su-57 ...
            Sorry, the most important points:
            - Does this weapon stamp one plant?
            - lack of money oppresses the country?
            - RV and A are celebrated on November 19, but in view of the essence and line-up they are different ... they are not sharpened in one workshop ...
            That's what I'm talking about ...
            hi
            1. Prjanik 6 February 2020 14: 30 New
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              I never scream "Hurray", restrainedly rejoice at some successes.
              You understand that we can talk about this mainly with assumptions, he also has a top priority in terms of secrecy .. Not so long ago, nobody knew about any Vanguards, Daggers and Relights, but now they are in service. And what we are doing now, too, no one will say, and even more so where and in what quantities it is stamped ..
              What we know, briefly. That this year they are going to switch to the S-500, it is logical that the S-400 is exported, here is the money Almaz-Antey and the geopolitical influence of Russia, with the A-235, I think everything is fine, since they are successfully experiencing it. I suppose that the Zircons finished, and as for the sale, the GDP just troll Amers. Launch new Boreas and upgrade the Tu-160. And as for Sarmat, it is obvious that he should not just copy the Governor, but qualitatively surpass those characteristics. Somewhere slower things are going, somewhere breakthroughs, but the caravan is going. The Defense Ministry knows better what is needed today, to allocate resources for them to the Vanguards or Boomerangs, or some other project.
              Therefore, it frustrates me when the terms are shifted to the right, for example, on submarines, and not very, when it comes to something not very important for our defense capabilities, and the United States does not have a rubber budget.
              1. Alf
                Alf 6 February 2020 18: 11 New
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                Quote: Prjanik
                and now they are in service.

                They are “taken” into service, but how many are there and where are they?
                1. Prjanik 6 February 2020 18: 17 New
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                  Here is a schaz how I will write the exact number with coordinates. laughing
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 6 February 2020 18: 19 New
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                    Quote: Prjanik
                    Here is a schaz how I will write the exact number with coordinates. laughing

                    Under the former consul, Gai Borealis Alkoligule, a lot of things were also taken in mind, and then it turned out that all these news in a single copy exist.
                    1. Prjanik 6 February 2020 18: 25 New
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                      Your case, unfortunately, we, couch experts, do not report such things.smile The main thing is that the enemy does not doubt that we have something to answer.
                      1. Alf
                        Alf 6 February 2020 18: 28 New
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                        Quote: Prjanik
                        such things are not reported to us sofa experts.

                        It is truth too.
                        Quote: Prjanik
                        The main thing is that the enemy does not doubt that we have something to answer.

                        You also need to bluff until a certain point, and after it you just need to lay out the cards on the table. And, God forbid, these were trump cards, not sixes.
                      2. Prjanik 6 February 2020 18: 36 New
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                        Well, by some indirect signs, I can judge that there are trump cards. For example. It is no accident that under Gorbi, that under Gai Borealis, the West adored the weak, bending Russia, and now we are again a world evil and scared, as was the case with the USSR.
                      3. Alf
                        Alf 6 February 2020 18: 49 New
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                        Quote: Prjanik
                        and now we are again a world evil and scared, as it was during the USSR.

                        Not a damn thing. It’s just that now the states need an external enemy for their economy.
                        And no one will fight with us, why fight, if you can buy from the inside.
                      4. Prjanik 6 February 2020 18: 55 New
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                        To do this, China would be enough for them, and so they simply disperse forces and resources. And to modernize their nuclear triad from the time of the collapse of the USSR until recently, they had nothing to do, and now they are in a hurry.
                      5. Alf
                        Alf 6 February 2020 18: 57 New
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                        Quote: Prjanik
                        To do this, China would be enough for them, and so they simply disperse forces and resources. And to modernize their nuclear triad from the time of the collapse of the USSR until recently, they had nothing to do.

                        Perhaps you are right, but I have long ceased to consider the true elite of the United States to be mentally retarded.
                      6. Alf
                        Alf 6 February 2020 18: 59 New
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                        Quote: Prjanik
                        And to modernize their nuclear triad from the time of the collapse of the USSR until recently, they had nothing to do.

                        But pouring money into the nuclear industry is an excellent idea, for this there is a terrible external enemy, even two Russia and China. So just senators pennies do not throw.
                      7. Prjanik 6 February 2020 19: 08 New
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                        All the same, nuclear energy is a separate song, here there is a crisis and a search for alternative energy sources, such as thermonuclear, and competition with Rosatom .. And so they were specifically concerned about warheads and carriers.
                    2. Prjanik 6 February 2020 19: 30 New
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                      Quote: Alf
                      Perhaps you are right, but I have long ceased to consider the true elite of the United States to be mentally retarded.

                      They are not mentally retarded, they just have circumstances and urgent needs. So the rivalry with the USSR ended, and everything was slowed down, everyone relaxed, just went in for robbery on a global scale and "scored" for further technological development.
                      On the basis of delusions and hypotheses, maybe someone needed a real restoration of Russia as a superpower, especially militarily, so that this would give impetus to the further technological development of civilization, because "peaceful" competition with China does not give this.
                    3. Alf
                      Alf 6 February 2020 19: 50 New
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                      Quote: Prjanik
                      As delusions and hypotheses

                      This is not nonsense, any system can develop only if it has an external enemy.
                      And as for Russia, now they are throwing minuses to me, but here the subtle game from the states-Russia should look like a powerful external enemy of the United States, but in fact it is not - the dollar, the Central Bank, etc.
                    4. Prjanik 7 February 2020 00: 45 New
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                      The point is that opponents should in fact be strong and formidable so that the arms and technology race lasts for decades, following the example of the USSR and NATO, simple visibility will not work. I mean, this might not be necessary for some side of the side, but for civilization, someone or something over states .. Well, okay, there will definitely not be evidence for this.)
                      And so, for obvious reasons, we will probably not find out soon the military secret about the quality and quantity of our latest strategic weapons. But the simple logic is that our MO says yes, the European say yes, the Pentagon says yes. And what is the probability that those who speak are all fairy tales mistaken? Big enough for me.
                    5. Alf
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                      Quote: Prjanik
                      But the simple logic is that our MO says yes, the European say yes, the Pentagon says yes. And what is the probability that those who speak are all fairy tales mistaken?

                      There is a great deal of truth in your words, but in the late 70s the Pentagon strenuously knocked out funds from the Senate, saying that a new MIG-31 fighter appeared in the USSR, America is defenseless in front of it and urgently needs allocations for a new plane, though without mentioning, that the MIG-31 is an interceptor.
  • bk316 7 February 2020 15: 14 New
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    Air defense systems.

    Well, they themselves wrote the priorities of the air defense and strategic missile forces plans for deliveries to the troops are fulfilled, and even a little ahead of schedule. OCD plans are being implemented.
    A Su-57 - YES ONE PLANT STAMPING.
    And by the way, Sarmat will also do one plant.
  • Grits 7 February 2020 07: 57 New
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    Quote: Prjanik
    First of all, these are strategic and hypersonic weapons, missile defense and air defense systems.

    This weapon has always been and will be necessary in the first place. And in priority it will be constantly, so to speak - in the permanent mode of necessity in a non-stop style. But this does not mean at all that other types and types of weapons should suffer because of this priority.
  • Lopatov 7 February 2020 18: 33 New
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    Quote: ROSS 42
    Howitzer can work in a "Flurry of Fire"

    In the pseudo-volley mode, called by the translators of the Discovery channel, “Flurry of Fire” even a mortar of the Great Patriotic War can work.
    You just have to count a lot.
  • VO3A 6 February 2020 16: 02 New
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    Yes, my friend, you are forever behind .. A coalition with the Kurgan people can be put on a par with only old-timers who have lost their minds ... They fight in different echelons in different echelons ... they are used differently .. If the role and importance of the former increases, then the latter moving further in the ass ... But this is not for you, wander on with old concepts ..
    1. Prjanik 6 February 2020 16: 34 New
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      So they are here in the same row, because we speak for financing on a residual basis, rather than a role in hostilities .. In Ukraine, the main role was played by artillery and MLRS, especially precision weapons “steers”. Apparently, so far the “Coalition”, and even not on the armored chassis, is not so needed, such a sub-coalition, and “Msta-SM”, with Krasnopoli if necessary, is enough for local conflicts today.
  • major071 6 February 2020 12: 35 New
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    I’m wondering what the author has to do with it, because this is news, i.e. statement of fact. The UVZ representative spoke about the tests of the Coalition-SV and their completion dates. All. The journalist transferred the words of this representative to paper and placed it in the media. In this news, there is no more information that one said, then conveyed to another. And here is the claim to the author? hi Perhaps this post does not have much to do with this news, but recently I began to notice more often that most visitors to the site do not even look in which section the information is published, stamping comments like: "in this article". The news is not an article - it is a brief transmission of information. But when analysts and authors of VO expand this topic in a different section, then an article will appear.
    I apologize in advance to those who offended or those who were offended drinks
    1. Alf
      Alf 6 February 2020 18: 13 New
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      I wonder

      Herr Major, where the hell have you been for so long? Are we tired of waiting for your creations of the epistolary genre?
      1. major071 6 February 2020 18: 22 New
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        Everybody quietly bites us,
        Believe me sir, the genre is not forgotten!
        But all in business and the Muse does not go
        And the hustle and bustle of the bustle of something there ...
        hi drinks
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          Alf 6 February 2020 18: 25 New
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          Who is it? Specify! hi
        2. WILL 6 February 2020 19: 06 New
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          major071
          Duck can still be distracted by you?
          Drink a hundred grams before bedtime
          Waking up in the morning, doing exercises
          Forget about vanity ... and everything will be all right!
          laughing laughing laughing
          Indeed, for a long time there were no your poems! hi
          1. major071 6 February 2020 20: 22 New
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            The back does not bend, shot through the lower back
            I should bend over a lot of work
            A hand does not rise to take a pen
            It became hard for me to write poetry ...
            But, by the way, I'm lying, you really will forgive me
            Take this to delirium
            Healthy as a bull, no newsletter needed
            Believe everything, believe me, sir, laziness ...
            Yes, and why hide, everyone knows this
            Missing topics for poetry, believe the poet.
            And the news, do not comment on them
            They don’t give me topics for thoughts and satire ...
            And in this I, alas, not alone
            To write something, I need to give a kick!
            But Muse somewhere, su / ka, went for a walk
            Therefore, poetry, excuse me, is not enough.
            They are not at all, why, sir, to lie
            Empty inkwell, empty my notebook
            And the feather is broken ... While I'm looking for something else
            Here’s how I find it, so we’ll close the topic
            drinks
  • Lamata 6 February 2020 12: 54 New
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    Unfortunately you are right
  • carstorm 11 6 February 2020 13: 08 New
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    and what good was the opposite in the Union? the fact that they took raw equipment into service and completed it for years in the army? the same window dressing only in profile)
    1. Ross xnumx 6 February 2020 13: 45 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      and what good was the opposite in the Union?

      The Union was not allowed to build yachts at the price of military frigates, and the whole world shot from AK-47 ...
      stop The USSR never appeared under the white flag, and the military in the USSR did not hesitate to wear a military uniform. No need to refer to the past, which annoys you. Please us with the present, from which you come to indescribable delight.
      1. carstorm 11 6 February 2020 13: 57 New
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        it doesn’t annoy me at all) I just say what I see or know) and I didn’t hesitate to wear uniforms from the word at all) as for the white flag, sport in the Union was under the complete control of the state and went wherever they ordered from above. Now the state does not have such opportunities. such a time.
  • NEXUS 6 February 2020 13: 27 New
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    to recall how many coalitions were supposed to be delivered to the army according to GPV 2011 -2020?

    The developers have nothing to do with it ... politicians and managers have very long tongues in the defense industry, well, love for show-offs, despite the fact that they are not able to finance and control the process. This also sins the GDP, marking with tongue, like a broomstick about weapons that have no taxes.
    With this, I think, in the defense industry it is necessary to strongly clean the ranks of these same managers who do not do nichrome, but they shift the terms very well to the right, feeding people breakfast.
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      Quote: NEXUS
      in the defense industry it is necessary to strongly clean the ranks of these same managers who don’t do nichrome, but they shift the terms very well to the right, feeding people breakfast.

      I completely agree, you need to clean the ranks. However, in reality we see the opposite trend.
  • orionvitt 6 February 2020 13: 56 New
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    Quote: kjhg
    In Soviet times, the situation was exactly the opposite.

    Nothing like this. If you had to show something, especially to foreigners, always first of all, at least in aviation and rocketry. Even prototypes went into business. They will show the audience on an air parade, talk about the latest aircraft, and then, another 5-7 years they test, before entering service. The shortest time was on the example of the ZIS-3 gun. Gos. tests, she passed in two days. But the times were different.
    1. Jager 6 February 2020 17: 49 New
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      Those state tests were an empty formality, because by that time the ZIS-3 guns were already at the front and showed themselves very well.
      1. Grits 7 February 2020 08: 21 New
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        Those state tests were an empty formality, because by that time the ZIS-3 guns were already at the front and showed themselves very well.

        The most striking thing is the term for adopting another legendary equipment - PTRD and PTRS. From decision making to mass production - MONTH!
  • standan 6 February 2020 16: 08 New
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    In Soviet times, the situation was exactly the opposite.

    In Soviet times, Nikita Sergeevich generally drove the mockups at the parade and nothing, the adversaries were impressed :)
  • VO3A 6 February 2020 16: 20 New
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    Why do we need a new weapon. if our General Staff and our army are fighting in the old way ?! We don’t need it, we won’t be able to realize this new weapon, its capabilities ... This also applies to the Coalition and Almaty and Kurgan and SU-57 and Tornado ... and UAVs ... We have death row spotters with walkie-talkies, scouts with The warriors on the front and in the air look out the window and give the coordinates if they have time ... We shove people everywhere ahead, women give off, URA Gerasimov and KO ... They don’t understand how the modern battle is conducted and how it should be waged ...
  • alex aircraft 6 February 2020 12: 31 New
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    And they work quickly and efficiently with the coalition with t 14, not like with an alliance. Glory to the great PR man and his great managers !!
    1. Lamata 6 February 2020 12: 55 New
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      I hope you are joking?
  • Graz 6 February 2020 12: 40 New
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    State tests of the latest self-propelled artillery gun (SAO) "Coalition-SV" is planned to be completed in 2022
    ______________
    Shaw again? belay
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    Or it won’t work at all. .. Complaints also seem to be like a running gear. It is weak for this gun, and the Coalition will not be made on the chassis from Armata. It was not originally designed for a geemka for Almaty, as a result, the car is "limited fit"!
    1. Zaurbek 6 February 2020 13: 21 New
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      Although the chassis of ARMAT was positioned as a single and promising. It also seemed strange to me at the parade that self-propelled guns were rolling on another cart.
    2. Glory1974 6 February 2020 13: 31 New
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      Complaints also have a sort of chassis. She is weak for this gun,

      In Chechnya, a battery of self-propelled guns stood next to us. After 2 weeks of fighting and regular fire (up to 2000 rounds per day on the battery), the equipment began to surrender. The brakes cease to hold, the cars roll back after a shot, all the equipment loosens on its mounts, etc.
      So the problem is not new, and maybe in principle has no solution. Then the resource is important, how many shots can be done without repair.
      1. Simargl 6 February 2020 14: 19 New
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        Quote: glory1974
        After 2 weeks of fighting and regular fire (up to 2000 rounds per day on the battery), the equipment began to surrender.
        5000-7000 shots per barrel? Yes, there are trunks, probably need to be changed ...
        1. Glory1974 6 February 2020 14: 27 New
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          maybe trunks too. It was about a base that could not stand it.
  • Super 6 February 2020 12: 53 New
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    I am from Chelyabinsk. Everything will be, work. Do not rush.
    1. Thrifty 6 February 2020 13: 05 New
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      Super, do you respect your city, if its name is written with a small letter! And about "everything will" hear just tired! We have a lot of things that will happen later canceled due to lack of money, or rather, the desire to give money for a particular product. So, I don’t believe in such promises for a long time, such as “everything will be”!
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        And move to live in the Urals and respect. And probably you don’t believe it. Watch TV a little and rarely listen to the president.
        1. Thrifty 6 February 2020 14: 48 New
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          Great, I have enough communication with those who have given their lives to our defense industry! People remained connected, and there is a REAL situation in some military “products” as well. The truth is that the development of many products has come to a standstill, because they did not want to say everything at once. Now, they don’t know how to get out of these problems, taking into account the fact that some people made this or that weapon, and completely different people will redo it. And, most often, those who remake are very far from their work!
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          Quote: Super
          rarely listen to the president.

          No, we listen regularly, which channel you don’t turn on, you’ll surely run into the Wise One. And to trust him, not to respect himself.
  • Zaurbek 6 February 2020 13: 19 New
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    And about the wheeled self-propelled guns silence!
    1. Super 6 February 2020 13: 49 New
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      It's not time to talk about her yet. Secret development.
    2. Lamata 6 February 2020 17: 12 New
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      Why is it needed?
      1. Zaurbek 6 February 2020 17: 26 New
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        Mobility is better .... and price
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          Quote: Zaurbek
          Mobility is better .... and price

          Mobility is good in Europe, which is all paved.
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            Quote: Alf
            Mobility is good in Europe, which is all paved.

            And with us!
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              Quote: Alf
              And with us!

              Spin Tires is resting ...
          2. Zaurbek 6 February 2020 21: 04 New
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            It is good everywhere ... including when transported by ships and airplanes. Moreover, the table itself is a new one and a long-range weapon.
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            Quote: Alf
            Mobility is good in Europe, which is all paved.

            Therefore, you need to fight in Europe, not ours.
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              Quote: Gritsa
              Quote: Alf
              Mobility is good in Europe, which is all paved.

              Therefore, you need to fight in Europe, not ours.

              But who argues, it is much better to break furniture in the neighbor’s house, and not in his own. That is why the GSVG and caught up with such a sucher on the adversary.
  • Sailor 6 February 2020 14: 11 New
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    How much time we lagged behind in development, it’s just a shame, the Germans in their "2000" already 15 years ago mastered the "barrage of fire" mode.
    1. Zaurbek 6 February 2020 21: 05 New
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      This and MSTA can