“These will be sparsely populated arsenals”: ​​US Navy Secretary on the skeleton of the future fleet

Several years have already passed since the start of the expansion of the American fleet up to 355 battle pennants by 2030. However, until recently, the leadership of the Pentagon and the country could not decide on the appearance of the naval forces of the future. USNI News clarified the situation to the acting Navy Minister Thomas Modley.

Unpowered Powder Cellars

Before him, the department was headed by Richard W. Spencer, who relied on strengthening AUG (formula 355+). Modley, who replaced him, refused this approach: "no one wants a thin fleet of 355+, which we can not contain." He pointed out the need to create the backbone of the Navy of the future by mass building unmanned and, at the same time, relatively small tonnage ships, such as frigates, and not aircraft carriers and destroyers.

However, in terms of deploying a crewless fleet, he was not supported by the US Congress, which drew attention to the fact that this type of pennants was not practiced practically and technologically. As a result, Modley made adjustments to his proposals. He abandoned the idea of ​​building a fleet of unmanned arsenal ships of large displacement, "stuffed" with vertical launchers.

Now their role is assigned to lightly manned ships (“sparsely populated ships”, with a small crew), which, in his words, will be “more like rocket powder cellars accompanying surface groups”. Due to the mass deployment of this type, as well as landing and supply ships, it is just planned to exceed the target of 355 pennants.

Need a rush

According to Modley, the transition to the new construction of the fleet, the low-populated arsenals, "will give it flexibility in operational deployment:" it will be a more mobile fleet. "However, as he himself indicates, there are no new types of pennants from which the updated Navy is trying to create:

There are certain classes of ships that do not even exist right now.

However, as soon as it turned out, the Navy in 2019 was already trying to achieve the creation of prototypes as part of a secret program, which they were silent about until the last moment. At the same time, lawmakers have moved the deadlines for the implementation of this project, slowing it down because of concerns about the maturity of the technologies the fleet relied on. However, Modley does not share the doubts of Congress:

I think that rush will be paramount in all our actions, because the world is changing quite quickly, and we will have to respond faster [...] We must convince them [legislators] with the help of facts: we must win this fight.

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

Reincarnation of arsenal ships? Arsenals must be very well guarded. )))

[Thrall]

The case when the US Congress is more reasonable about the Navy than the dreamer-minister of the Navy

[1959ain]

The US is preparing for the flood, like the Japanese, built floating cities

[Siberia 75]

Quote: 1959ain

like the Japanese, they built floating cities

What did the Japanese build ??
Are you from the channel RENT

[1959ain]

Quote: Siberia 75

What did the Japanese build ??
Are you from the channel RENT

Japan: Cities of the Future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URVUpErlQx8

[Siberia 75]

Well, it's not even fantasy, fantasy. It is much cheaper and more practical to plant the same piece of semi-desert in Australia. There are many such projects since the 70s. Real, calculated by engineers and environmentalists.

[1959ain]

Quote: Siberia 75

It is much cheaper and more practical to plant the same piece of semi-desert in Australia.

And then what are the Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese fighting for the islands?

[Siberia 75]

Quote: 1959ain

And then what are the Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese fighting for the islands?

He already has an island. No need to spend billions on its construction.

[1959ain]

Quote: Siberia 75

He already has an island. No need to spend billions on its construction.

And the bulk islands of China. The creation by China of artificial islands on reefs in the South China Sea and ensuring the national security of Japan
Work on the creation of artificial islands on the reefs in the South China Sea, which is being carried out by China, leads to intense tension in the region. How should Japan respond to these actions and ensure its national security?

[Shurik70]

I also watched Evangelion

[1959ain]

Quote: Siberia 75

What did the Japanese build ??
Are you from the channel RENT

[Siberia 75]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Reincarnation of arsenal ships?

In general, the idea of ​​the fleet as a projection of force at a distance is still relevant. And perhaps in the coming unstable future, it will become even more relevant. So the rejection of AUG is not an option. Reasonable optimization, probably what you need.

[Kuroneko]

I thought so.
All waited (for years), when finally the States will announce this, and finally. Again, a return to the idea of ​​arsenal ships.
Well, success, cho. Although the moment is already somewhat missed.

[Ros 56]

God knows we need to create underwater fighters with a minimal crew and with the most modern means of destroying surface and submarine ships of a potential enemy.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Ros 56

God sees we need to create underwater fighters

What for? "Zircon" is enough for everyone, and no one will crawl away offended. Stupidly can not.
And we need to create normal ships of the first rank with high combat stability.
Re-corvettes and re-frigates are good, of course. But it is necessary to grow at least to full-fledged destroyers (although they will most likely try to make them almost cruisers, judging by the preliminary sketches of the same "Leader").

In general, we found ourselves in a very interesting situation comparable to the Japanese one. When, having serious restrictions on the tonnage of the fleet (well, we have more restrictions because of the economy, although the lack of shipyards for the construction of large ships also affects), the Japanese tried to take the quality and strength of a separate military unit relative to foreign analogues. Now we have the same approach in fact.

[Simple]

Quote: Kuroneko

And we need to create normal ships of the first rank highly combat resistant.

Here the correct emphasis was placed on high combat stability.

And not on the desire to shove everything that is possible into a small displacement.

In the latter case, with the first mine caught, the ship becomes incapacitated.
And while its personnel ("hello" to ships with extremely reduced personnel) will somehow bring it into combat readiness ... - there were examples.
It is good to equip the escort of convoys with crewless ships (especially as minesweepers and mine loaders) - such a combat unit is cheaper (in terms of personnel), therefore it is possible to give convoys such combat units (relatively speaking) not two - three, but three or four .

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Simple

Here the correct emphasis was placed on high combat stability.

T-ss! And then inadvertently summon up into Kaptsov’s thread with his armored battleship-like searchlights that will save everyone and bend everyone, but retrogrades, byaky such, are still not going to build / lay them. ^ _ ^

[Simple]

With booking it you overdid it.

I did not mean booking, but the strength of the ship's structure, coupled with the "insensitivity" of the ship to the incapacitation of a couple of compartments.
Those. (in the case of landing on a mine) ultimately, the ship not only has to stay afloat,
but also be able to restore the course plus respond adequately as a military unit.

[Elephant]

Quote: Kuroneko

"Zircon" is enough for everyone, and no one will crawl away offended

Zircons alone and their carriers will not be enough for the entire enemy horde. It is worth diversifying our weapons. And in general, I really want economic growth in Russia if the new prime minister and his team are competent!

[Rome]

There are no fully autonomous robot ships! A radio-controlled model, an excellent target for the "Russian hackers"
Congress is now afraid of its email and smartphones, hence the justifiable fear for arsenals-gadgets

[svp67]

rocket powder cellars

So, before the aircraft carriers were chased, and now for the "cellars" ...

[Same lech]

Before him, the department was headed by Richard W. Spencer, who relied on strengthening AUG

Finally, it dawned on the Americans that aircraft carriers like dinosaurs did not correspond to the coming era of other weapons and ammunition.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

and it dawned on the Americans that aircraft carriers like dinosaurs did not correspond to the coming era of other weapons and ammunition.

No no no. Americans do not even think to cut their avics on pins and needles. It's just that earlier, if the whole struggle for budgets was reduced to expanding or at least keeping the number of aircraft carriers at the same level, now the bet is on the fact that the existing avics will be enough for them, most of them reach the 50s - with proper maintenance and modernization, now the same development will go towards building up "meat" (and Aviki are the "prima donnas" of the world of ships - capricious, expensive, but their importance and effectiveness is still undeniable).

[Same lech]

Of course, the content of these monsters will fly a pretty penny ... for the tasks of protecting marine communications, they are quite consistent ... it is clear that they will be saved for this.
But to combat Russia and China, American aircraft carriers have already lost their relevance ... they are unlikely to be given the opportunity to approach the shores of Russia and China if they have a powerful coastal defense.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

for the tasks of protecting maritime communications, they are quite consistent ...

Huh. Aviki - and to protect convoys? Well you give.
Well, so far - in "peacetime" - it is possible that yes. But the protection of communications was never the task of strike aircraft carriers (even from the stage of rough drafts on paper). Even in the furry time of the Second World War, for this purpose they specially created / altered escort Aviki.
And then, the same naval modification of the "penguin" F-35. It was not made for the protection of the Korovans.
And Aviki did not lose relevance. It’s just that the Yankees have finally realized and recognized at the level of senior officials vulnerability his main political (who is strong, he is right) trump card.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Kuroneko

Huh. Aviki - and to protect convoys? Well you give.

Aviki - it's like a brother in a particular kid. Of course, they do not roll against the riot police, but they can forever bend the owner of a small gas station.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Kuroneko

But the protection of communications has never been the task of attack aircraft carriers (since the stage of rough drafts on paper).

After the decommissioning of anti-submarine aircraft in the 70s, the shock AB was entrusted with the task of sea control, which, among other things, included an ASW. It was for her that the AV solutions were equipped with universal air wings, which included a Viking squadron.
In the report to the 1977 Congress on the new multifunctional aircraft wings of 12 attack aircraft, their versatility and the ability to perform tasks, including PLO-aircraft wings from the decommissioned Essex, were emphasized.

In fact, instead of protecting communications, the Yankees planned to involve the AUG in the creation of their "bastion", in which the AV was assigned the role of a means of monitoring the air, surface and underwater space in a certain area.

[Thrifty]

In the figure in the article is a crewless aircraft carrier with a deck extendable to the side? ??

[rocket757]

I think that rush will be paramount in all our actions, because the world is changing quite quickly, and we will have to respond faster

The world is changing, it’s true, only in a hurry, it is fraught with many misunderstandings and now, especially then.

[Metlik]

Perhaps the wrong translation, speed and not rush.

[rocket757]

Hurry up slowly!
A quick reaction to a changing environment, in the world and in general everywhere ... it is, now, a necessity.
BUT, everything is within reasonable limits.

[Proton]

It seems that they open the comics there, look, then, yeah, but have not tried it yet let's ask for money, maybe they’ll give me something, but it won’t work, say, it happens

[Pastor]

Everything is logical. Why carry ro 300 people? There, dry cargo ships go with a crew of 10 people and normal. With good space support, the captain will almost never make a decision on his own.

[Operator]

If Acting Secretary of the U.S. Navy Thomas Modley himself announced the poorly populated arsenals, then for the local genealogies of the cargo cult (Timokhins and Klimovs), it is clearly time to change shoes in the air in accordance with a new overseas training manual - such as the FORA

[Doctor]

The question is how versatile such a fleet will be.

[Kuroneko]

Papuans can bomb, everything is as before without a doubt.

[Mavrikiy]

You need to understand this - self-propelled floating launchers with a missile store, for all occasions, anti-ship missiles, missiles, missile defense, missile defense and so on. Floating islands, yes, with planes and helicopters. +++. And we are their Poseidons. Joke. In general, it will cost, to create a new fleet from scratch, in general, many machines should be printed for a very long time. Can they toss gas to them, to cut augs?

[syndicalist]

Modli is right - the future belongs to drones. This is already quite obvious. The technological readiness of the country is another matter. As an intermediate option, the "sparsely populated" may well

[g1washntwn]

Why create a special tonnage? If it is easier to press the UVP / container launchers into the existing civilian bulk carriers and container carriers. Here you have the arsenal. Nodes give less (they do not need to overtake the convoy), but they will give a salvo to the discovered KUG not weak. And the crew there is commensurate with the LMS.

[Kerensky]

If it is easier to press the UVP / container launchers into the existing civilian bulk carriers and container carriers.

And where to put the equipment? Yes, so as not to conflict ....

[g1washntwn]

In any case, such an arsenal is not intended for hunting, and its own radars with a BIUS are unnecessary for him. It is enough for him to keep in touch on the battle network of the warrant (to your question of compatibility), a 40-foot container or two is quite enough to organize a secure channel and receive input from the guard ships or from the satellite with coordinates for launching.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

The spirit of the general secretaries of the CPSU Central Committee has not disappeared! It is said 355 - we will do it !!! Even if half of them are rowing skiffs!
In general, the small fleet puts an end to the cannibalistic plans of the Irish mafioso ruling the United States. Since aviation will have to negotiate with the neighbors of the country intended to be eaten. You can’t throw 900 aircraft in a month.

[lvov_aleksey]

he reminded me of one politician, about Kuzkin’s mother. Remembered? I kind of didn’t treat them badly, but I don’t want our 60-70 years old