The German Bundestag called NATO aggressor, not Russia

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The German Bundestag called NATO aggressor, not Russia

The North Atlantic Alliance violated this promise of the USSR not to expand eastward, and it is NATO that is the aggressor, approaching the borders of Russia, while at the same time blaming the Russians for this. This was stated by the official representative of the Left faction on foreign policy issues in the German Bundestag, Alexander Noah, in an article for the Freiheitsliebe portal.

In his article, the German parliamentarian writes that NATO countries are preparing to hold the largest military exercises Defender of Europe 25 (Defender 2020) in March for the last 2020 years, which are aimed at repelling the imaginary "Russian threat." However, Noah emphasizes, in fact, the aggressor is NATO, leading eastward expansion to the Russian borders, and Moscow, despite all the accusations, still holds a defensive position.



The German deputy notes that the Soviet Union made a mistake and "gave it a lie" by refusing to secure NATO's promise not to expand further than Germany after the restoration of the country's unity.

This became an unforgivable mistake of the becoming less capable Soviet leadership under Gorbachev

- Noah says, adding that the alliance began expansion since 1999, guided by the principle of "open doors", and is not going to stop.

According to the German parliamentarian, Russia still takes a defensive position - it "protects the remaining regions of influence - including by military means, where possible." Therefore, the war with Georgia in 2008 and the conflict in Ukraine in 2014 became a defensive war of Russia against the expansion of the Western sphere of influence in the post-Soviet space.
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  1. +53
    31 January 2020 07: 10
    The German Bundestag called NATO aggressor, not Russia
    I almost fell off the stove!
    1. -33
      31 January 2020 07: 24
      Do not pay attention - these are local German marginals, they always carry some kind of nonsense about the lifting of sanctions and the aggressive policy of NATO.
      Fortunately, no one listens to them.
      1. +35
        31 January 2020 07: 28
        Quote: Gray Brother
        marginals

        You killed my faith in .......
        Add yourself, tears have blocked your eyes. crying
        1. 0
          31 January 2020 07: 33
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          You killed my faith in .......

          Until these guys get at least a significant number of seats in the Bundestag, it is better not to turn to questions of faith)))
          1. -21
            31 January 2020 07: 58
            Gotta give them money like Marine Le Pen feel
            1. +1
              31 January 2020 08: 57
              Quote: Evil543
              Gotta give them money like Marine Le Pen

              will roll
            2. 0
              1 February 2020 20: 48
              Where is the droushka?
              Or according to established custom, just to blurt out, and there even though the grass does not grow?
              1. 0
                1 February 2020 22: 20
                Marine Le Pen National Front took out a million dollar loan from a Russian bank
                Money taken as part of party financing

                23.11.2014/09/57 at 9638:XNUMX, views: XNUMX
                The French National Front party, whose head Marine Le Pen is a supporter of Russia and supports President Vladimir Putin, took out a 9 million euro loan from a Russian bank.
                This is MK.

                The next time you turn to strangers, please be more polite.
        2. +1
          31 January 2020 07: 44
          I also barely stood on my feet, it seemed that in the Bundeswehr.
          But the last paragraph pleases.
          1. +11
            31 January 2020 12: 33
            Quote: knn54
            I also barely stood on my feet, it seemed that in the Bundeswehr.
            But the last paragraph pleases.

            Apparently this Noah, a native of the GDR, and therefore retained a clear mind and ability to critical thinking. Be that as it may, such statements on the Bundestag site are very inconvenient for the pro-American European crowd and bring a split to their slender ranks. Well done Noah!
      2. +45
        31 January 2020 07: 31
        they always carry nonsense about the lifting of sanctions and the aggressive policy of NATO.

        In no case do not lift the sanctions ... thanks to them, our ossified system of the state moves even a little.
        The threat of NATO contributed to the development of new weapons of Russia ... at least there is a plus from this.
        It scares me more when the Anglo-Saxons and Germans begin to be friends with us and praise the leadership of Russia ... wait after that some kind of taunt from them.
        1. 0
          31 January 2020 07: 34
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          It scares me more when the Anglo-Saxons and Germans begin to be friends with us and praise the leadership of Russia ... wait after that some kind of taunt from them.

          No, specifically these normal ones think soberly.
          1. +7
            31 January 2020 07: 39
            The result of the election to the Bundestag in 2017: 9,2% of the vote.
            https://www.dw.com/ru/парламентские-партии-германии-досье/a-39197945

            The left-wing party remains an outsider in the political space of Germany, largely because of its communist past. She never entered the ruling coalition in the Bundestag.

            Not enough of them to solve something. what
            1. +6
              31 January 2020 07: 58
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              Not enough of them to solve something.

              They are a partner of the ruling two of the CDU / CSU, and due to their small numbers, they can afford to cut the truth-uterus (unlike the parliamentary majority) without fear of spoiling relations with the Washington regional committee.
            2. +16
              31 January 2020 09: 25
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              The left-wing party remains an outsider in the political space of Germany, largely because of its communist past. She never entered the ruling coalition in the Bundestag.

              But they smell normal! Not that of our Communist Party, led by Sue.
              1. +5
                31 January 2020 11: 18
                Quote: 30 vis
                But they smell normal! Not that of our Communist Party, led by Sue.

                Zu is not a communist or a Bolshevik, but a professional deputy, fed up by the Kremlin. The Communists would have already arranged 17 years for these thieves. Where are the party cells of 5 people? Where are the fighting units? One chatter! hi
                1. -2
                  31 January 2020 13: 00
                  Quote: fif21
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  But they smell normal! Not that of our Communist Party, led by Sue.

                  Zu is not a communist or a Bolshevik, but a professional deputy, fed up by the Kremlin. The Communists would have already arranged 17 years for these thieves. Where are the party cells of 5 people? Where are the fighting units? One chatter! hi
                  The communists brought and arranged 91 years, they and their last ones became, as you say, "thieves" and they themselves have to arrange 17 years for themselves. Did I understand everything correctly? Is there a different interpretation of your post?
                  1. +4
                    31 January 2020 16: 00
                    Quote: Jura
                    Is there a different interpretation of your post?

                    Yes! - Those who call themselves the Communist Party now have nothing to do with the AUCPB (L). Like Gorbachev, Yeltsin .... Expecting them to raise or protect the people is an illusion. Therefore, get down to business! And there is someone to scratch with tongues. hi
                    1. +3
                      31 January 2020 16: 22
                      Quote: fif21
                      Yes! - Those who call themselves now the Communist Party

                      good I agree with you. hi
                  2. +2
                    1 February 2020 14: 37
                    These are not communists, this is what the "party of Russia" is now.
        2. +7
          31 January 2020 08: 40
          Quote: The same Lech
          ...... NATO threat contributed to the development of new weapons of Russia ... at least there is a plus from this.
          It scares me more when the Anglo-Saxons and Germans begin to be friends with us and praise the leadership of Russia ... wait after that some kind of taunt from them.
          Well yes! I remember how Gorbachev and Yeltsin were praised! What beautiful words were spoken. About labeled Margaret Thatcher, about EBN ---- staff.
        3. +4
          31 January 2020 11: 38
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          In no case do not lift the sanctions ... thanks to them, our ossified system of the state moves even a little.

          The fact is that the United States is most afraid of a rapprochement between the Russian Federation and Germany. And if this happened, it would be a better alternative to sanctions. But mattresses from underpants pop up, so that this does not happen.
        4. -1
          1 February 2020 14: 56
          Quote: Gray Brother
          It scares me more when the Anglo-Saxons and Germans begin to be friends with us

          If we are not "friends" with the West, then we can only "be friends" with China. "Friendship" for any non-superpower means borrowing the cultural and technological foundation of a superpower. Do you really want to reorient our civilizational field to China?
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      4. +1
        31 January 2020 09: 00
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Fortunately, no one listens to them.

        What kind of "happiness" is this, the sanctions are not canceled?
        Yeah....
        1. +1
          31 January 2020 09: 09
          Quote: Lipchanin
          What kind of "happiness" is this, the sanctions are not canceled?
          Yeah....

          It was sarcasm.
          1. +1
            31 January 2020 09: 11
            Quote: Gray Brother
            That was sarcasm

            So I didn’t wake up
      5. -1
        31 January 2020 11: 52
        Quote: Gray Brother
        nor always carry any cancellation crap sanctions and NATO’s aggressive policies.
        К happiness nobody listens to them.

        Unfortunately, for the non-listening Germans themselves ...

        Listened would be less likely to be toasted...
      6. +1
        31 January 2020 12: 35
        Apparently sarcasm on the site completely ceased to understand ... harsh jest.
        1. 0
          1 February 2020 07: 03
          I'll tell you more, they don't pay attention only to emoticons, but even to the inscription "SARKAZM"! Yes...
    2. +1
      31 January 2020 08: 25
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      The German Bundestag called NATO aggressor, not Russia

      Good! The conclusion is made, it's time to take steps. "Yankee out!" angry
      1. +4
        31 January 2020 08: 58
        Left today in their elected bodies present slightly. It’s good that there are people like Noah who value NATO’s eastward move as aggression against Russia. But there are very few of them. hi
    3. +2
      31 January 2020 09: 04
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      The German Bundestag called NATO aggressor, not Russia
      I almost fell off the stove!

      There are adequate people there, but at the top there are much fewer than among ordinary people.
    4. +3
      31 January 2020 09: 52
      So this is the left)))) this is not the 5th column of the milling cutter, but still. They used to cut the truth of the uterus before)))), someone is listening to them. It's like a fat in the Duma)))))
    5. 0
      31 January 2020 09: 54
      With a Russian, it’s quite big, you have to manage to fall from it. Something you do not agree. fellow lol laughing lol
      1. 0
        1 February 2020 07: 05
        And why with the Russian? Maybe with a potbelly stove .... feel
        1. 0
          1 February 2020 09: 03
          On the potbelly stove ass burns laughing
          1. 0
            1 February 2020 13: 41
            How curious people are nowadays ... Directly newsreel "I Want to Know Everything" request
            1. 0
              1 February 2020 17: 26
              So these young people have no idea what a Russian stove is, and I ate food in it cooked even in a cast iron and in clay jugs. And for a crust with baked milk, there was a sin, they even fought with a cousin.
              Well, I won’t be sorry anymore.
              1. 0
                2 February 2020 12: 28
                But Cho apologize, I myself am so! hi
    6. 0
      31 January 2020 09: 55
      Why suddenly, there is a normal desire to live on and not turn into nuclear ashes by the will of the United States.
    7. +1
      31 January 2020 18: 11
      What smart Germans are!
      Did he serve his own head? wink
    8. +2
      1 February 2020 17: 53
      From surprise, I almost spilled vodka on the bear!
  2. +1
    31 January 2020 07: 21
    yes they can call anything, but they do the opposite
  3. -1
    31 January 2020 07: 22
    in the course of the sheep the flock was beaten off, and the wolves are hungry ..... they spank and put in a corner, nothing new
    1. 0
      31 January 2020 07: 36
      Who would spank our liberals.
      1. +2
        31 January 2020 08: 14
        Who would spank our liberalists .... and what is wrong with our liberals .... eat, drink taxes, thereby contributing to the defense of the Russian Federation, ... that is, like everyone else is just naked, and idiotic views, but this is a personal matter for everyone, especially since their habitat is exclusively in megacities, then they don’t show their nose, so there is no need to slap especially and why
        1. +1
          31 January 2020 08: 45
          What is the proverb? Small bug, but smelly !!!!!! That's the way liberals
          1. +3
            31 January 2020 08: 48
            Small bug, but smelly !!!!!! ..... to paraphrase the case with the liberals on the air about Krylov, "Well Pug, she's strong, if she barks at an elephant" ... forget about them,
      2. 0
        1 February 2020 09: 05
        And your hands are what you are busy with, er, not what you are doing. lol
  4. +1
    31 January 2020 07: 27
    Today, Germany does not need NATO at all. Let us recall the proposal for pan-European pan-Germans who want to get away from the guardianship of their big Amer’s brother.
    1. +4
      31 January 2020 07: 59
      Well, these are their wet dreams, the Americans will not leave so easily.
  5. +1
    31 January 2020 07: 28
    The North Atlantic Alliance has violated its promise to the USSR not to expand eastward, and it is NATO that is the aggressor, approaching the borders of Russia, at the same time blaming the Russians for it. This was stated by the official representative of the Left faction on foreign policy in the German Bundestag Alexander Noah in an article for the Freiheitsliebe portal.

    After such words, he will definitely have to escape from that Sodom on the ark. All the creatures in a pair will attack.
    1. 0
      31 January 2020 08: 06
      Quote: Kuroneko
      After such words, he will definitely have to escape from that Sodom on the ark. All the creatures in a pair will attack.

      How to sit and get down. Not the first time.
      The ADG is even more fun than the socialists and nothing, by the way, they are cooperating on the issue of relations with Russia.
    2. 0
      31 January 2020 09: 59
      That Fedot, but not really. The faction of the left sometimes wets this, it is necessary to listen. But they don’t have weight, they only drive the wind. When the Germans get bored, they give the word to the left. All neighing and continued on.
  6. 0
    31 January 2020 07: 31
    In US-occupied Germany, members of Parliament (Bundestag) realized how stupid and trusting the last secretary general was. Judging by recent events, these "gentlemen" do not even observe the signed collective agreements. And taking their word for it was Gorbachev's greatest folly.
  7. +2
    31 January 2020 07: 34
    and Moscow, despite all the accusations, still adheres to a defensive position.

    We have our own problems above the roof ... all the more so the western neighbors stubbornly throw those more and more.
    We’ll break through!
  8. +4
    31 January 2020 07: 37
    "The North Atlantic Alliance has broken its promise to the USSR not to expand to the east, and it is NATO that is the aggressor, approaching the borders of Russia, while blaming the Russians for it."
    Actually, no one canceled the decision of the Allies on the device after military Europe, the Eastern zone of occupation remains with Russia, so our tanks can move on it without violating international law and drive offenders from it.
    1. +2
      31 January 2020 08: 26
      so that our tanks can move on it without violating international law ... it’s silly to drive tanks through the swamp, drown, just put on a gas needle what is actually done, now the stick will be tied tightly
      1. 0
        31 January 2020 08: 36
        who said that on the swamp, on the autobahn, who did not move out of it, we are not to blame.
        1. 0
          31 January 2020 08: 42
          who said that in the swamp, on the autobahn, ....... the tankers will break up .... judge for yourself, on each meter there is beer, schnapps, girls with a low social rate, and there you look and travesty ... in short, lowering the tankers in such swamp, better remote adjustment with a gas needle, and the tanks are safe and the sheep are full
  9. +1
    31 January 2020 07: 44
    Like America was discovered.
  10. +1
    31 January 2020 07: 53
    Quote: Gray Brother
    Do not pay attention - these are local German marginals, they always carry some kind of nonsense about the lifting of sanctions and the aggressive policy of NATO.
    Fortunately, no one listens to them.

    Rather, unfortunately, no one is listening to them. Marginal or not, it’s good that there are people with a sound mind.
    1. +5
      31 January 2020 08: 20
      it’s good that there are people with a sound mind ..... this is not enough, reality needs action, and there are 0 of them, one competent girl from the Bundestag when I was back, Ursula Wagenknecht, is remembered, and where is she now ???? they shut up and stopped their tongue, while she sang
      1. +4
        31 January 2020 08: 51
        Sarah Wagenknecht, and Ursula von der Leyen, former Minister of Defense, Bundeswehr chief gynecologist
        1. +2
          31 January 2020 08: 56
          and Ursula von der Lyayen ...... yes, everything is normal in the geurops, the tendency of decline and degradation is going in the right direction for us, so let it be so, we must pay their ministers defense, and reward which thread with a medal
  11. 0
    31 January 2020 08: 35
    Are they there, representatives of the "Left" faction, completely mad or something? Eli hasn't received an American whip for a long time?
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  13. +1
    31 January 2020 08: 51
    The title of the material says: "The German Bundestag called NATO the aggressor, not Russia."
    In the material itself there is a transcript: "This was stated by the official representative of the Left faction on foreign policy in the German Bundestag, Alexander Noy Article for the Freiheitsliebe portal. "
    To the campaign, there is a difference where to declare, but the exhaust WHERE it is declared - absolutely not what.
  14. +3
    31 January 2020 09: 18
    Do you speak in March? Defender of Europe you say? Well, put Gorbachov in front of the NATO columns and let him yell, "We didn't agree that way" Something like barking at the USSR, so he has the strength. And as for the US and NATO, he is "their bin patient"
    1. +1
      31 January 2020 09: 31
      This tagged only with the language to be wary of much ... in Foros showed himself in all its glory as the president of the type - bzdun he and the point.
  15. 0
    31 January 2020 09: 27
    So soon he will find child porn or it will pop up that he did not write his dissertation.
  16. +2
    31 January 2020 09: 32
    The North Atlantic Alliance violated this promise of the USSR not to expand eastward, and it is NATO that is the aggressor, approaching the borders of Russia, at the same time blaming the Russians for this.


    Better later than never, but that voice will not survive.
  17. 0
    31 January 2020 09: 56
    The Germans simply know very well what Russian behavior and patience are and their response to aggression.
  18. -5
    31 January 2020 10: 14
    This was stated by the official representative of the Left faction on foreign policy in the German Bundestag, Alexander Noy, in an article for the Freiheitsliebe portal.

    very deftly one member of parliament has evolved
    To the German Bundestag ...
    laughing
    sleight of hand and no fraud ...
  19. +5
    31 January 2020 10: 21
    Inhabitants of the GDR remember the Zapad-77 exercise according to the scenario of a local nuclear war in the European theater of operations (excluding the territory of the USSR) with a preventive attack by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization using conventional weapons, counterstrikes by TNW from the Warsaw Pact in the amount of 1300 units and retaliatory strikes by TNW from NATO sides in the amount of 1000 units (600 on the front line and 400 on the rear).

    After which the ATS troops went to the Atlantic, and the FRG and the GDR ceased to exist bully
  20. 0
    31 January 2020 11: 31
    Quote: Operator
    Inhabitants of the GDR remember the Zapad-77 exercise according to the scenario of a local nuclear war
    Then why (or perhaps why?): - On the territory of Germany at the moment five of the seven American garrisons in Europe are located. - More than 760 million euros from the budget of Germany for the maintenance of the US military.
    - US troops in Europe: as of August 2019, it numbers about 38 people.
    - At the German Bundeswehr Bühel airbase, up to 20 US nuclear warheads are stored. https://www.dw.com/en/things-necessary to know-military-bases-usa--germany/a-50115420
  21. +1
    31 January 2020 12: 19
    Well, finally .. not everyone sees the Nazis did Hitler! .. remember that when they were in the One State, the Russian Empire! and Russia and Russia and Russia)))) therefore! back to a single state)))
  22. +3
    31 January 2020 13: 37
    No wonder: there are smart and honest people in the West. Unfortunately, they are not allowed into the manual, they are silent and shut up in every way. But sometimes they break through the information blockade!
  23. +3
    31 January 2020 13: 45
    The sprouts of common sense in European parliaments are already an indication that an information campaign against us is starting to fail
  24. 0
    31 January 2020 16: 37
    In his article, the German parliamentarian writes that NATO countries are preparing to hold in March the largest military exercise Defender 25 in the past 2020 years, which is aimed at repelling the imaginary "Russian threat."
    They will shoot again, they will come ... what ecology ... negative
  25. 0
    31 January 2020 18: 54
    Unfortunately this is only an isolated opinion
  26. -1
    31 January 2020 19: 35
    The German Bundestag called NATO aggressor, not Russia
    What a loud headline! But Russian ... Zhirinovsky called ... Che discuss it?
  27. 0
    31 January 2020 20: 53
    The German Bundestag called NATO aggressor, not Russia

    Is it worth paying attention to the left, which has only 9% of the seats in the Bundestag?
    Indeed, 91% of the Bundestag deputies disagree with the left ...
  28. 0
    1 February 2020 09: 02
    The Germans will not refuse to progmatism on this issue ... That's true, in this case they do not agree on this issue somewhat ... Not NATO, but the USA itself, as the main component of this military bloc .... Which is generally understandable . The Germans have no hope that they will be supported by the rest of the main NATO members on the very question of the US occupation of European countries .... Hmmm ... An interesting situation, were they wrong? .. NATO positions itself precisely as an instrument of collective security of the EU countries . Although in essence, there is no talk of collectivism in the EU, as in NATO itself, alas, it has not been discussed for a long time, however, it did not go from the very first moment of the appearance of both the EU itself and NATO ....
    Hmm, yes .... Still, quite late in Europe, the very understanding of the fact that it was all these years after the end of WWII, in fact was, and is now, as the main hostage of US foreign policy, is triggered. But the funniest thing is not, it is .. And the very fact that in this "noble family", in the EU, in NATO, there is no unanimity .... Which in turn allows you to ask only one question ... Gentlemen !. .. Against whom and how, do you supposedly intend to defend yourself, if you all first of all need to be protected from yourself?
  29. -1
    1 February 2020 13: 51
    NATA cannot be an aggressor
    Macaron said that Nata’s mosquito is paralyzed, and with such a diagnosis, offensive
  30. 0
    1 February 2020 19: 25
    the author is wrong, these were not our territories.
    but he is right in one thing, in Russia there is a lot of what others want.
    ps if anyone does not know - a quarter of the global supply of fresh water.
    Neither oil nor gas is worth what water costs when it is gone.
  31. +1
    1 February 2020 19: 59
    This is the personal opinion of ONE deputy.
    What do the others think ?! Who is planting me?
    His menie is equal to mine. That is, multiply by zero.