Lukashenko instructed to begin negotiations on the supply of oil from Kazakhstan

Belarus will hold talks with Kazakhstan on the supply of Kazakhstani oil to the republic. The corresponding powers were received by the Government of Belarus in accordance with the decree of the country's President Alexander Lukashenko.

According to the press service of the Belarusian president, by his decree, the Belarusian leader authorized the government of the republic to negotiate with Kazakhstan on a draft agreement on the supply of oil and oil products and on its signing

Head of State Alexander Lukashenko, by decree No. 27, authorized the government to conduct negotiations with Kazakhstan on trade and economic cooperation in the field of oil and oil products supplies to Belarus, as well as on the draft agreement and its signing upon reaching an agreement within the framework of the approved project

- said in a statement.

Earlier, the president of Belarus accused Russia of pressure on the republic, consisting in a tax maneuver in the oil sector. According to Lukashenko, Russia deliberately launched a tax maneuver in the oil sector in order to put pressure on Minsk. At the same time, he argues that the disagreement between Russia and Belarus arose allegedly because of Moscow’s demands to pay an inflated price for Russian oil in excess of world oil prices.

Lukashenko has repeatedly stated that this tax maneuver reduces revenues to the republic’s budget due to export customs duties on petroleum products and demanded compensation from Russia, which was refused.

Against this background, Belarus introduced an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory, and also began to look for alternative oil suppliers and has already purchased a batch of oil products in Norway.

Comments

[Shurik70]

Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

[bouncyhunter]

Sasha

Quote: Shurik70

Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

Can he have seven Fridays a week?

[Pension]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Sasha

Quote: Shurik70

Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

Can he have seven Fridays a week?

Yes, everything will be fine Pasha, I’m sure of it .. Old Man is an emotional man, but he understands everything .. Enough for him to rush about, the time is not the same as in 2015 with sanctions .. It is time to unite and discard this trade for the joy of the West. .
"Belaz", they say the assembly line has already stopped?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Pension

Old Man is an emotional man

Sometimes emotions need to be thrust into a known place.

Quote: Pension

"Belaz", they say the assembly line has already stopped?

I don’t know about that ...

[Pension]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Sometimes emotions need to be thrust into a known place.

It’s not always possible, I understand my dad

Quote: bouncyhunter

I don’t know about that ...

Maybe a fake, but the info was slipping and it’s quite possible, according to the current situation .. Raiders are already rubbing their hands .. God forbid, if they gut the whole Belarus .. And the Old Man will remain on the potato.

[Nicholas C.]

The Uzen - Atyrau - Samara oil pipeline transports highly solidifying oil. To pump it, the oil pipeline is heated along its entire length. But father is sure that Transneft will immediately rush to build heating from Samara to Belarusian refineries for free? Are these refineries sure to be able to process such oil without modernization? By the way, the free capacity in this pipe is much less than what Belarus needs. And how with all this the price will turn out "like in Smolensk"?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Nikolai S.

And how with all this the price will turn out "like in Smolensk"?

But no way! But father is trying to show a cookie to Russia, and he does not care how and at what price.

[cniza]

Steep it lately, it seems exhausted to the bottom. Hello Pasha!

[Dr. Sorge]

We will rub the pipe red hot :)

[bouncyhunter]

Misha, glad to welcome!

Quote: Dr. Sorge

We will rub the pipe to red

What's the point?

[Dr. Sorge]

Already no, with the pen-do-ssami agreed ... What a joy. :(

[Astoria]

To pump it, the pipeline is heated along its entire length. But father is sure that Transneft immediately wants to build heating from Samara to Belarusian refineries for free?

it’s possible to carry out a swap transaction, this has already happened.

That is not the question: Kazakh oil is largely contracted, the volume of free oil is not large and they will not sell it cheaper than the market. Recently, Kazakhs have already sent Belarusians to the level of business entities, they will send again if they did not understand the first time.

[avdkrd]

So the most unworthy Old Man in the world does not stand at a price. Once the performance rolled and the Kremlin made concessions. Then, in fact, the Old Man bought Azerbaijani oil, but from Chavez (because Venezuelan I have contracted oil and there are no free volumes), about $ 800 per ton. Now he has already bought 560 from the Norwegians, while no one will be able to provide him with the required volume. 80 thousand bought from Norway will be enough for three days of work of the Velikolutsk Oil Refinery, but they have not been delivered yet.
Russia sells for 360. Old Man is bluffing, while he has already made himself a liar and a populist.
You must understand that he is not an ally and you can not do business with him.
It is a mistake to justify his demarches by caring for the people of Belarus. You cannot build the welfare of the state on fraud (sash does not count, another caliber). Belarusian shrimp and duty-free sale of oil products cannot provide development. Belarus rejecting the Union State cannot but lie before the West. Apart from Russia, it simply does not exist.
404 in this sense had much greater possibilities, but it ends up like a litter. In principle, loans have already been taken, and since there is nothing to give back, the rest is a matter of time.

[Win1945]

Belaz is loaded with orders for news in 2020. What anyone got up in Belarus is not in the know.

[Astoria]

Compared to 2018 and mid-2019, BelAZ production halved - to 40 cars per month.

Production is cyclical (there was record export revenue in 18), caterpillar and comatsu also suffer losses.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Pension

"Belaz", they say the assembly line has already stopped?

Deliveries to India

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: Vadivak

Deliveries to India

And what do they supply? And then today I came across infa that they adopted the domestic transport platform, fully electric with wheels, without transmission, etc.

[Dr. Sorge]

Which plant? Electrical did not pass the interference test. The mechanics are more reliable.

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: Dr. Sorge

Which plant? Electrical did not pass the interference test.

PJSC "KAMAZ" made "REMDIESEL" a TASS report. Adopted for service.

[Dr. Sorge]

I only know about the previous development.

[Dr. Sorge]

Who says grandma on the drive? Just now there was a report from Belaz, it’s just not a conveyor belt, but Belazes, ready to be sent to India.

[Vlad.by]

In fact, the announcement of the launch of the Platform-O after testing was completed in many media today.

[zloybond]

The main tax is not to forget to charge them an ecological one and what else is there)) and let them carry as much as they like.

[Tersky]

Quote: zloybond

The main tax is not to forget to charge them environmental

Last Friday, the whole of Belarus learned that it turns out that the republic was "put in cancer", and that the introduction of an environmental tax by Lukashenka would put Belarus "shrimp". Tripbalts can tell him about it.

[Evil543]

Aren't you afraid that the KGB will take you as an oppositionist?

[Dr. Sorge]

And before that a comma is placed, you, comrade, are not from the CIA? What is your evidence? :)

[Evil543]

Well, have you tried writing with a lot? Comrade from the Stasi? And by the way, you in one of your previous posts, missed a comma ...

[Dr. Sorge]

Yavol! By the way, the Stasi - one of the strongest intelligence was. I respect her with great respect.

[Dr. Sorge]

Hello Pasha! And Fridays can be seven or eight .... And indeed the game is going on, we don’t understand ordinary sofa warriors.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Quote: Shurik70
Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

Can he have seven Fridays a week?

Our bourgeois clans have repeatedly raided Belarus and Lukashenko.
Arrivals are replicated by "non-profit" mass media, they are quoted. Including here.
And it is surprising that they are supported by seemingly thinking people.
I recommend that you familiarize yourself with - competent analysis of the situation. At one and a half speed, it will take ~ 40 minutes.

I think the desire to support the raids on Belarus will decrease.

[Military Builder]

but for some reason I recall the words of the unforgettable M. Zadorny:
"If the government and the media scold someone, then he is a good person."

[Sergey39]

Quote: Shurik70

Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

But why not. Will give. It will only introduce an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory.

[kjhg]

Does the government need a special decree for the government to start negotiations on oil supplies? I thought that this was already the responsibility of the government. To be honest, all these decrees are a game for the public. It seems to me no, I have long been convinced that a president who respects himself and others should not behave in this way. It’s like a wife offended by her husband begins to specially stage the proceedings in public, telling the details of their personal lives to those who should not have heard it.

[Olezhek]

But why not. Will give. It will only introduce an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory.

Why tax?
Let him build a pipeline
At my own expense.
We will provide land.
For rent
Rental rates will be negotiated separately
Any whim at your expense.
Russia is not obliged to transit oil for all comers.
She has no such duty
In general, Kazakh oil, like Russian oil pipelines, has been given a contract
and rushing around here is useless.

[cost]

Doesn’t Old Man agreed to receive oil at intra-Kazakh prices? And what is Norwegian too tough for you?

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Rich

Norwegian was too tough?

To the teeth. But for some reason they got sick ...

[Pension]

Quote: Rich

Doesn’t Old Man agreed to receive oil at intra-Kazakh prices? And what is Norwegian too tough for you?

Old Man simply does not know Kazakhs .. Until it reaches Belarus, there will no longer be oil there and Russia will be blamed ..
P / S In Kazakhstan, gas is two times cheaper than in Russia .. But for some reason no one is trying to go there for free ..

[Vadivak]

Quote: Pension

In Kazakhstan, gas is two times cheaper than in Russia .. But for some reason no one is trying to go there for free

they have Russian gasoline, the price is Kazakh, who lives nearby everyone refuel

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Rich

Doesn’t Old Man agreed to receive oil at intra-Kazakh prices? And what is Norwegian too tough for you?

And, as for me, any whim for your money ....!

[Olezhek]

Doesn’t Old Man agreed to receive oil at intra-Kazakh prices?

Below the intra-Kazakh ... all the same "fraternal peoples" rotted in some trenches.

[GKS 2111]

Against this background, Belarus introduced environmental oil transit tax through its territory, and also began to look for alternative suppliers of oil and has already purchased a batch of oil products in Norway.
The same in the same place, an eye for an eye. Once the market, then for everyone. And for the father, too.

[Cowbra]

So you need to justify the trust! Do not prove the same. that Old Man is lying. Within the framework of friendly assistance, give him a vegetable to help instead of Kazakh oil. Do not thank they say, do not, we are purely out of friendship

[knn54]

Potatoes from Uzbekistan are still cheaper.

[marshes]

Quote: knn54

Potatoes from Uzbekistan are still cheaper.

There is little potato cultivation there, mostly bought in Kazakhstan or from Kyrgyzstan, for which storage and processing conditions are not bad.

[Tersky]

Quote: Shurik70

Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

Kazakhstan can potentially supply oil, but the Caspian Pipeline Consortium is geared towards deliveries to the port of Novorossiysk, and transporting the cherished slurry from there by ships, and even more so by rail, is slightly costly. Azerbaijan is located in the same region and does not have a direct "thread" to the north either.
In general, the current situation very much resembles Ukraine at a time when it was trying to convince the whole world and itself that some other gas, besides Russian, could be pumped through the GTSU. Frankly, this Belarusian oil "Santa Barbara" is starting to tire.

[Astoria]

The question is, I don’t remember exactly, but the railway refineries of the Republic of Belarus cannot be accepted more than + - 300 tons per month, and the Odessa-Brody oil pipeline is empty.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Tersky

this Belarusian oil "Santa Barbara" is starting to tire.

For "Santa Barbara" episodes are not enough, and the plot is tougher.
It's more like Game of Thrones, a new season where the Father of Dragons becomes the White Walker.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Shurik70

Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

And how is going to drive oil from Kazakhstan to Belarus? Is there a free deep underground oil pipeline to not pay for Russia's transit? Or maybe airplanes around Russia?
What do people toggle around? I will never believe that oil from other sources will come out cheaper than Russian!

Quote: iouris

Overseas heifers - half, but the ruble - transport.

[Olezhek]

And how is going to drive oil from Kazakhstan to Belarus?

And you are not Belarusian !!!

[Romey]

Mdya ... Belarusians got into the face of oil in nature. On the left are partners, on the right are kremlins, and they are in the middle. It will be difficult to get out. Transit through the territory of the Russian Federation will probably be at a premium.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: romey

Transit through the territory of the Russian Federation will probably be at a premium.

Not with a margin, but with an environmental fee.
How it comes around - it will respond. ©

[Metlik]

Quote: Alexey RA

Not with a margin, but with an environmental fee.
As he comes around, he will respond. ©

Russia will never introduce this fee, otherwise all transiting countries in Europe will introduce it for us.

[Romey]

What went around that? An invitation to become a half-colony of a half-colony? Or are you all so upset by Lukashenka's refusal to take part in the lohotoron called "the transit of power of the Russian Federation." Do not be upset, the leader has already found a way out. Is it a pity the 300 million green, supposedly lost profits? Don't be discouraged either. This money is not yours, but the oligarchs. And what is really there. Billions go to the loose and spiritless west and it's not a pity ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: romey

What is it that fucked up? An invitation to become a semi-colony of a semi-colony?

Gorgeous. We finally see the true face brotherly people.
How to suck 6 billion a year from the budget of the Russian Federation is normal and decent, and nowhere does it squeeze anything. And as soon as we are talking about reciprocal services - so immediately "semi-colony" and "foul state".
Or do you think that Belarus gave money just for the fact that it is?

To the crocodile, even if the number on the head is tedious, he will not be able to carry out the most basic programs. He has a brain with a bean, even the most primitive pedagogical models like carrots and sticks do not work with him. There, in principle, there are even no rudiments of logical thinking and understanding of cause-effect relationships. Therefore, he will always perceive the whip not as a punishment for misconduct, but as a suddenly inflicted, undeserved offense, and a carrot as a natural, implied tribute to the Universe for his crocodile existence ..

Quote: romey

Sorry for 300 million green, supposedly lost profits? Don't be upset either. This money is not yours, but the oligarchs.

This is money, including the budget. But you continue to believe that the oligarchs are separate, and the budget is separate, and it is filled exclusively with pennies squeezed by the state from the moneyless and brainless Russians. So, it seems, the president of Belarus Mr. Lukashenko spoke about us?

If they have brains and money today that they don’t have, let them invent!

© AHL

[BARKAS]

It was possible to initially determine for them a quota for domestic consumption at an affordable price, all that was selling above the quota at world prices.

[iouris]

Overseas heifers - half, but the ruble - transport.

[Andrei Gurov]

How is he going to transport oil from Kazakhstan?

[Xenofont]

And how can two sea powers? By sea tankers ...

[marshes]

Quote: Xenofont

And how can two sea powers? By sea tankers ...

By the way, Kazakhstan has its own tanker fleet, sailing not only in the Caspian Sea but in the Black Fleet under its own flag, the Mediterranean and the North with the Baltic.

[Mihail2019]

By the way, even if this is the case, with additional resale operations (like we give our Kazakhstani oil to the one who is closer, and he gives the already purchased oil to Belarus), the price of the goods does not drop at all. And the presence of tankers in Kazakhstan does not "warm" Belarus in any way - their seaports are simply heaped up, especially with receiving terminals for tankers (in a completely land-based country).

[marshes]

Quote: Michael2019

And the presence of tankers in Kazakhstan does not "warm" Belarus in any way - their seaports are simply heaped up, especially with receiving terminals for tankers (in a completely land-based country).

But there are berths in the Baltic states and there is also the port of Ust-Luga through which Kazakhstani oil flows into Western Europe.
I am aware that it mixes with the light Siberian one in Samara, by the way for the mix, annually Kazakhstan buys up to 1 million tons of this oil. This is the Urals.

[Astoria]

No one will pump oil from Kazakhstan to Ust-Luga (for transneft, it makes no sense to mix oil from Kazakhstan with Urals - if you go this way, it’s a swap deal), the question is that refineries in Belarus have limited reception of oil on railway overpasses. So it’s not fundamentally whose oil to take: Norwegian, Kazakh or American.

Regarding the reverse through friendship, the Poles politely said that they did not have such technical capabilities.

The key issue is that RB refineries compete with Poland and the Baltic refineries, therefore they will be happy to provide any help that would welcome the final rise in the cost of production of RB refineries (another example - Norwegian oil could be unloaded in Ventspils, rather than dragged to Klaipeda, but:

(quoted Minister of Transport of Latvia Talis Linkites.
commented on reports that the terminals in the Ventspils port refused to transship Norwegian oil destined for Belarus, and the cargo went to the Lithuanian Klaipeda. Latvian Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkevics told about this. "I know that we have enterprises in Ventspils that themselves refused to transit Norwegian oil through Latvian ports, fearing something. And she went to Klaipeda," Talis Linkites said that Belarus in both directions. However, the terminals operating in the ports are private, and their owners make their own decisions based on business interests)

.

[marshes]

Quote: Astoria

No one will pump oil from Kazakhstan to Ust-Luga (for transneft, it makes no sense to mix oil from Kazakhstan with Urals - if you go this way, this is a swap deal)

she has been swinging there for a long time

The Russian operator Transneft will pay the Kazakh pipeline operator Kaztransoil compensation at the rate of $ 15 per barrel, while the total amount of compensation for oil contaminated in the Baltic port of Ust-Luga may be about $ 76 million, Deutsche Welle reports.

[Astoria]

Why do you think this is not a swap deal?

[marshes]

Quote: Astoria

Why do you think this is not a swap deal?

Because the Dutch in the first place in terms of investment in the oil industry in Kazakhstan and the organochlorine were found at their refineries.
And since 2012, deliveries have been going on.

[Astoria]

Yes, you're right, I thought that transit goes only to Novorossiysk.

[marshes]

Quote: Astoria

Yes, you're right, I thought that transit goes only to Novorossiysk.

In general, the geography of supplies is large.
Iran - Iranians supply the same volume through the Persian Gulf, there was such, in the northern part they had a shortage of oil for processing.
Baku-Tbilisi Batumi-Oil Port belongs to kazmunai gas.
Novorossiysk-Southern Europe-Romania-Romapetroil is 100 percent owned by Kazmunai Gas, and part of the port in Constance.
Well, China and soon Uzbekistan will buy.
I’m more worried that there wouldn’t be any artificial shortage in the domestic market, that refueling prices would not rise out of the bucket, in principle, there is free oil, but it needs to be preserved, because of OPEC it was necessary to reduce exports and therefore we had to send excess oil to oil refineries, that's why we they liked to put cheap gas before this refinery for repairs.

[To be or not to be]

How? AS :
Pompeo will bring with him ..

[Mihail2019]

Directly from the Caspian to Minsk - yeah!

[Andrei Gurov]

And I thought in wineskins on horses.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Andrei Gurov

How is he going to transport oil from Kazakhstan?

Apparently through Azerbaijan, Georgia and Ukraine.
The most reliable and safe route.

[Mihail2019]

Oh yeah!!! The most reliable "partners"!

[Thrifty]

As if the Kazakhs would sell him oil for "thanks"!

[Labrador]

Alexander Lukashenko, by decree No. 27, authorized the government to negotiate with Kazakhstan on trade and economic cooperation in the supply of oil and oil products to Belarus

And what? Norwegian still have neither show off nor money?

[Dym71]

Quote: Labrador

And what? Norwegian still have neither show off nor money?

The norgs have too much quality, the hand does not rise for processing

[Eug]

They don’t give a Norwegian loan in Moscow .. and the data previously spent on 20 thousand tons. or how much is there through Lithuania.

[Vasyan1971]

this tax maneuver reduces revenues to the republican budget

And the throwings we observe - increase, definitely!

[marshes]

In Kazakhstan, it will be necessary to negotiate with private companies, the power structure is not much different, our government only regulates it.
And they will not miss the benefit.

[Mihail2019]

Only trunk oil pipelines, as in Russia, are at the disposal of the only state company - KazTransOil, a complete analogue of Transneft.
And since Belarus is a well-known "sea" power, a harsh logistics issue arises ...

[marshes]

Quote: Michael2019

Only trunk oil pipelines, as in Russia, are at the disposal of the only state company - KazTransOil, a complete analogue of Transneft.

All this belongs to Kazmunaigas, Kazmunaigas belongs to the state holding Samruk Kazyna and this is a shop with a dubious reputation

[Mihail2019]

As if it changes something ... We have Transneft, Rosneft, Gazprom, Gazprom Neft also have nominally different owners. So what?!
And this doesn’t solve the logistics issues - how can Kazakhstan deliver oil to Belarus?

[marshes]

Quote: Michael2019

As if it changes something ... We have Transneft, Rosneft, Gazprom, Gazprom Neft also have nominally different owners. So what?!

But the government doesn’t go there, this is a taboo for investors to scare, because it was not for nothing that our minister made a reservation that the government of Belarus would have to solve this issue with private traders. They just wash their hands.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: marshes

the government of Belarus will have to deal with this issue with private owners. They just wash their hands.

This is a business approach.(c) Yes, correctly - send, without refusing.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: marshes

But the government does not go there, it is a taboo for investors that can be frightened, because it was not for nothing that our minister made a reservation that the Belarusian government would have to deal with this issue with private owners.

We call it "dispute of business entities"- when the authorities do not want to openly admit their interference and turns the arrows.

[Brturin]

Quote: marshes

And they will not miss the benefit.

This is what the head of the Ministry of Energy Nurlan Nogayev said: “We will organize a meeting with resource holders if any of the oil companies expresses a desire at a cost-effective price or under conditions that satisfy them, the deal is possible "

[Strashila]

“Against this background, Belarus has introduced an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory,” and what prevents Russia from introducing an environmental tax on the transportation of foreign oil through its territory, in fact, does not interfere with anything.
Why Kazakhstan oil, and not Azerbaijani oil, can be used immediately from Alaska.

[Dmitry Potapov]

Confused Old Man, Norwegian, Kazakh, Venezuelan, Saudi, it seems to me he will buy a "Ukrainian" which one hell will get in Russia.

[Tzar]

So it will be, the Kazakhs will drive him the oil in the same way as he did in the Russian Federation of Belarusian salmon

[To be or not to be]

“The second part of the Marlezon Ballet!”
The Marlezon ballet (correctly Merlezon) is a ballet staged by Louis XIII "The ballet on the hunt for thrush", which the king respected
The expression "Marlezon ballet" in a figurative sense means "protracted and fancy action", because "Marlezon ballet" consisted of 16 acts,
"In the Russian language, the catch phrase" the second part of the Marlezon ballet "has become entrenched, indicating an unexpected development of events or a development that is spoken of with irony. Similarly, the expression" Marlezon ballet "is sometimes used figuratively to refer to a series of events of a grotesque nature."
Preparing for all 16 acts?

[Dym71]

Quote: To be or not to be

Preparing for all 16 acts?

But yak zhezh!

[Prahlad]

Well done Old Man found a way out, did not pass Belarus!

[Mihail2019]

Boo ha ha! Shrimp Belarus threw Russia!

[Dym71]

Quote: Prahlad

Well done Old Man found a way out

The exit is of course good, the entry is unimportant

[purple]

Quote: Sergey39

Quote: Shurik70

Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

But why not. Will give. It will only introduce an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory.

Plus transit will be at the price that the Old Man takes from us

[purple]

Quote: marshes

Quote: Xenofont

And how can two sea powers? By sea tankers ...

By the way, Kazakhstan has its own tanker fleet, sailing not only in the Caspian Sea but in the Black Fleet under its own flag, the Mediterranean and the North with the Baltic.

well let yourself swim where will he get oil?

[faterdom]

There is still Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Mexico in the end! Nigeria again! Saw, Old Man, they are golden!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: faterdom

There is still Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Mexico in the end! Nigeria again!

Yes, who would have already thrown off Butsko’s Maduro’s number - yes, there it can be cheaper than in Smolensk.

[nduchvve]

According to the press service of the Belarusian president, by his decree, the Belarusian leader authorized the government of the republic to negotiate with Kazakhstan on a draft agreement on the supply of oil and oil products and on its signing

- Well, like this. In the morning I will see enough news about supreme ruler of Russia. What else to expect ...

[GABALIS]

"Three hundred thirty-second movement of the Marlezon ballet ..."

[Victor March 47]

Correct solution. To transport oil by tankers leased in the USA along the route developed by Ms. Psaki. Show presumptuous Putin, that has not yet become damp at the Old Man in ..... a powder flask.

[Mihail2019]

I wonder how he is going to get oil from Kazakhstan, bypassing Transneft ?!
And another big question - does "KazTransOil" have the capacity and volumes to satisfy the "Butt's" wants ?!
As far as I know, KazTranOil has been looking more towards China for the last 20 years.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Michael2019

I wonder how he is going to get oil from Kazakhstan, bypassing Transneft ?!

theoretically it is possible, but extremely cool, Caspian-Iser-rodents-Sumerians, and in the old man cheap oil

[Ros 56]

Luke, he is in Africa Luke. It seems not a kid, but antics, as if he were from a kindergarten and a toy was taken from him.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: To be or not to be

“The second part of the Marlezon Ballet!”
The Marlezon ballet (correctly Merlezon) is a ballet staged by Louis XIII "The ballet on the hunt for thrush", which the king respected
The expression "Marlezon ballet" in a figurative sense means "protracted and fancy action", because "Marlezon ballet" consisted of 16 acts,
"In the Russian language, the catch phrase" the second part of the Marlezon ballet "has become entrenched, indicating an unexpected development of events or a development that is spoken of with irony. Similarly, the expression" Marlezon ballet "is sometimes used figuratively to refer to a series of events of a grotesque nature."
Preparing for all 16 acts?

It is not enough for me. From the first time, taking into account age, it does not reach. Only the third time. And right away. Because if there is a break, I forget. what was at the beginning.

[Alexander X]

Somehow Old Man cares less and less about Belarusians and more and more about his own ambitions. "Frostbite ears to spite grandmother" will be paid by Belarusians, who will receive less due to unpaid taxes on profits (after all, the profitability of oil refineries will go, most likely in the red) and not built schools and hospitals, etc. social sphere. Moreover, it spoils relations with Russia, which again can come back to haunt with an increase in duties on BELAZ trucks, tractors ... or even something unpleasant. You need to think, first of all, about the people of your country. IMHO.

[Eug]

Just about, an environmental tax on oil transportation through the territory of the Russian Federation. And the tariff for transportation is the same as for "Friendship" .. everything is exactly the same "brotherly" ...

[Knell wardenheart]

The old man went on a trip to the Old Man, well, or he wants to try all the oil of the world ..

[Adimius38]

This somehow relates to the military review)) in my opinion, the author of such topics as that does not breathe evenly to Belarus

[Barmaleyka]

judging by the actions of some individuals, spring has already arrived, well, or the autumn has delayed

[tezey]

And that Lukashenko is so excited. If he does not like the price of Russian oil or does not like the quality, then he has a great choice. The international oil market is abundant from Iran to the United States. I don’t want to buy. So let him dare, maybe he will find it cheaper and better. Only somehow it is doubtful that someone will sell him oil at bargain prices.

[GenNick]

This song is good, start from the beginning ...
It seems to me that discussions have reached an impasse, the same thing every day ...

[Olezhek]

It seems to me that the discussions have reached an impasse, the same thing every day ..

How can one not be glad for the economic and logistical achievements of the neighbors.

[Gennady Fomkin]

For example, in a situation with excess organochlorine in oil. An unpleasant, but typical situation for oil production - over there, Kazakhstan recently stopped exporting oil to China about this, and no one is hysterical for some reason. And in Belarus in April-May last year, so many screams were heard that the fluctuations of the earth's crust are still going on.

[marshes]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

For example, in a situation with excess organochlorine in oil. An unpleasant, but typical situation for oil production - over there, Kazakhstan recently stopped exporting oil to China about this, and no one is hysterical for some reason. And in Belarus in April-May last year, so many screams were heard that the fluctuations of the earth's crust are still going on.

So this oil was discovered before being fed into the pipe, and was not driven further to oil refineries.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Nenuacho, stroking the government, private Belarusian partners of foreign businessmen play the same scam: “A few years ago, a major businessman from Kazakhstan decided to work with Belarusians, whom I heard a lot of good about. He signed a contract with a woodworking enterprise near Borisov, through an Arab intermediary he invested $ 750 thousand in the development of production and began to wait for revenue, which, however, did not happen. When the time came to harvest, there was no money: a Belarusian businessman said that the industry had covered an unprecedented a crisis. After long attempts to find a common language, a foreign businessman decided to seek protection in power and turned to law enforcement agencies. A criminal case was instituted against Belarus and ordered to return the money. But there is no money and, it seems, will not be ”

[Olezhek]

“A few years ago, a major businessman from Kazakhstan decided to work with Belarusians, whom I heard a lot of good about. He signed a contract with a woodworking enterprise near Borisov, through an Arab intermediary he invested $ 750 thousand in the development of production and began to wait for revenue, which, however, did not happen. When the time came to harvest, there was no money:

It's a lie! Spread on the money of the Russian oligarchs, who violently hate socialist Belarus and the most just father of all!

[Gennady Fomkin]

So, “Belarus has already been looking for alternative sources of oil in previous years. So, from Venezuela, the republic purchased the Santa Barbara brand in the early 2010s. However, the extremely expensive logistics and poor quality of raw materials forced to resort to a swap scheme with Azerbaijan. In total, the republic purchased about 3,4 million tons from Venezuela in three years. Interestingly, the average price per ton of Russian raw materials for Belarus in 2010 was $ 434, and Venezuelan - $ 647.

Belarus purchased a little less than a million tons from Azerbaijan in 2011 - at a price of $ 838 per ton. For comparison: Russian oil then cost about $ 430 per ton. In 2016, Belarus again turned to Azerbaijan, however, it also bought oil in small volumes: 560 thousand tons. In 2017, the republic purchased 1,4 million tons of oil from Iran. ”

That is, how would a riddle be drawn to us - why was there such a loss? No, the option that they were afraid of this blackmail is not rolling; The Kremlin, in principle, is not afraid of this nonsense. Novaya Gazeta is a so-so source, but, it’s all insanely interesting; moreover, there are links to material in the cited text. So, the article of 2012: “Minsk pays $ 30-60 for the delivery of a ton of oil from Venezuela to cover the supply of contraband Russian raw materials to the Belarusian refineries, which cost him $ 200-250 cheaper than the world price. Losses of the Russian budget from the supply of contraband oil to Belarus and the re-export of hydrocarbons through this country exceed a billion dollars a year of unpaid duties ... It seems that having lost official oil benefits last year (2011 - L2005), Minsk agreed with some Russian partners on the supply of duty-free Russian raw materials to Belarus by other routes.

Last year supplies of fuel oil from Kazakhstan (2011 - L2005) increased Belarusian imports from this country five times ... Based on the documentation of the Belarusian Railway, at least a part of Kazakhstan’s hydrocarbons entering Belarus are not fuel oil, but “crude oil”. But why should Minsk hide oil imports from Kazakhstan under the guise of fuel oil? Experts note that such a cover is typical of smuggling of duty-free Russian oil through Kazakhstan. According to the agreement between Moscow and Astana, Russian oil companies have the right to export raw materials to Kazakhstan duty free - for processing at local refineries. In fact, a substantial portion of hydrocarbons is re-exported from there to third countries. At the border, smuggling takes the form of export of fuel oil, allegedly obtained during the processing of Russian raw materials in Kazakhstan, and Kazakhstani export duty on fuel oil is paid - many times less than the Russian oil duty. By not paying half of the export duty, enterprising exporters can earn standard profits by selling smuggled oil 30% cheaper than the world price. Market participants ironically refer to the scheme as the export of "crude fuel oil" ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

There is much more interesting in the article. Clarifying Belarusian muddy schemes and options for circumventing the law by domestic Russian crooks. Yeah, come on, make a polyphony, father-in-law zmagars. For the fact that in the schemes of deceiving the Russian budget there are homegrown scammers. Tryndets, discovered Mars in my school telescope.

[Gennady Fomkin]

So, kasatiki, Witnesses of Belarusian Independence, you can shy away from disagreeing with the supply of Russian oil and burst out with delight because of the alternative possibilities of replenishing the skinny Belarusian budget, but the harsh truth of life is one, and you will not like it. Because it is that you live in your own country, in many ways, sitting on Russian oil resources. Even your modest independent oil production is a pleasant bonus, because all of its volumes, for the whole time of your independence, are comparable to annual purchases from Russia.

[Romka]

Well, we are Belarusians, we are already walking around the Poles. By popularity on VO! It's nice to base yourself in the spotlight. . I sympathize with the forum users from the Urals, Siberia, the Far East - everything is ordinary with you, there’s nothing to write about. Not life, but boredom. Hold on, Siberians!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Those modest Norwegian 80 thousand tons, the price of which the Belarusian oil company is silent more stupid than the convinced underground worker at the Gestapo interrogation, will be delivered according to the long road model in the dunes of Lithuania: “the raw materials will be loaded into railway tanks and transported to Belarus. The representative of the Lithuanian Railways, Thomas Digaitis, told BNS that oil will be transported by rail to the Belarusian border for about two weeks - up to 90 wagons per day. ” And it will cost extra - $ 20 per ton.

And “To load one Naftan, it is required about nine million tons annually, that is, about 25 thousand tons daily. The Mozyr Oil Refinery processes about ten million tons per year, ”that is, approximately also 25 thousand tons per day. And here the impetuousness of deliveries - 80 thousand tons in two weeks. One of me lost my understanding of the effectiveness of logistics

[Gennady Fomkin]

So, on January 21, Lukashenko said: “Perhaps Kazakhstan will be able to supply us with oil if Russia agrees to this. Strange: our ally does not agree to the supply of oil from our other ally. Well, this is the situation with oil supplies now, and we must figure it out, "said the Head of State."

We’ll immediately deal with situevina oil transit to Belarus from Kazakhstan. Well, I'm harmful because the memory is good, and I visit the site of the President of the Republic of Belarus more often than all pro-Lukashenko trolls together. And I remember that exactly three months ago, on October 21, 2019, in an interview with the leading media of Kazakhstan, Lukashenko said: “One of these projects you mentioned is the supply of Kazakhstani oil to our refineries, fully modernized according to the European standard with deep oil refining. I think if Russia is interested in the development of our economic union, it will not interfere with this. Because if we start to block common projects in the EAEU, well, as I often say, then other countries, like Belarus, Kazakhstan, will seek outside happiness ... I think that we will succeed with the supply and refining of oil, if we agree on the price. Well, why not agree? Together we can process your oil and sell it on the premium European market, on the Ukrainian market, on any one. Because the quality, the yield is good, we have oil products ... if they clogged here, if there is no oil movement in the direction of the ally, Belarus (Russia does not allow this oil to pass through), then the Kazakhstanis begin to look at China, they begin to look south - to Pakistan, India. " severe insanity was established immediately, alluding to the fact that the Kazakhs would happily give Lukashenko all the time if Russia missed that amount; the Chinese, however, apparently do not know for that. We will talk below, how impressed are alternative sellers of Russia with a Belarusian buyer, so far - for the transit of volumes. That is, “Russia does not have a separate pipeline for direct oil supplies from Kazakhstan to Belarus, while the available capacities are used to export oil produced in Russia abroad, Pavel Zavalny, chairman of the State Duma committee on energy, told RNS. “There is no direct pipe from Kazakhstan to Belarus; there is a Transneft system for the supply of oil from our fields for export, including to Belarus. In addition, each oil field has its own composition, that is, not every oil field can process oil at any refinery, ”Zavalny said.

No, in Sineokoi, it flashed from his answer (rummage through resources and Internet smokers yourself, I don’t have many links to place here), but the man essentially said correctly. The pipe is not dimensionless, the volumes in it are contracted, and the quality of the raw materials is agreed upon there separately. That is, just like that, just taking and taking the volume out of it in order to inject the friendly Kazakhstani oil purchased by Belarus is impossible.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Since a month later, on November 20, “Kazakhstan did not offer Russia to launch the transit of Kazakh oil through Russia to Belarus ... We discussed this issue during our visit to the Electricity Council. The Minister of Energy (Kazakhstan - Kanat Bozumbayev spoke about these negotiations with the Belarusian side, we have no more information. There are no specific official proposals, "Novak noted, RIA Novosti reports. Deputy Energy Minister of Kazakhstan Asset Magauov said earlier that Kazakhstan and Belarus began preparations for signing an agreement on the supply of oil and oil products. For his part, Bozumbayev said that the main terms of the agreement have been agreed, the issue of banning re-export has been resolved. Supplies can range from 1 million to 3,5 million tons of oil per year. "

Apparently, it really hung up like that, if for three months, judging by the conversations in Sineokoi, things are still there. At the stage of discussion of opportunities. What did Russia close you, dear?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Thus, the transit “problems” from Kazakhstan to Belarus live exclusively within the Belarusian official brains. They didn’t talk about this topic with Russia. Not exactly how much oil will need to be supplied, nor what kind of oil will have to be supplied, nor in any way. Question for advanced supporters of Lukashenko: what should anyone answer who if no one asked?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Estimate, I understand the reasons why I did not ask. Because these same Kazakhs suddenly became difficult partners after the upheavals of Lukashenko’s previous oil struggle with the Russian government. Because here the question arises as the horseradish of a manufacturing bull, in view of Lukashenko’s hijacking of oil transit through Belarusian territory, which somehow can suddenly get in touch with the discussion of the conditions of transportation through the territory of Russia. We will analyze each reason separately, while the general conclusion: the impression that Lukashenko speaks seriously about oil from Kazakhstan is not.


For some reason, Lukashenko is convinced, and his minions, too, that you can endlessly use the same deception scheme. But doubts take me - is this self-appointed tycoon really the most cunning? Because, if Panikovsky nifiga does not understand that he was already familiar in the territory somehow, then they will eventually beat him. Which begins to be.

[GenNick]

The namesake, do you have worms ???

[Gennady Fomkin]

The namesake will cover you tangentially

[Kibl]

Multiple sclerosis along the side of the dad, and this is already scary. It’s good that it’s not like Reagan .....

[Chingachguk]

Oh, I smell this daddy play out ..... This in the course of senility covers ... I hope that he will not survive the elections ........ In the sense of not re-elected .... Otherwise, Belarus Khan! The second Ukraine will be on the way ....

[Bear040]

It itself supplies anti-tank guided missile systems to Bandera, and the RF is to blame ... And from Kazakhstan to carry oil in balloons, through Sumeria ?! In Kazakhstan, oil will be given for nothing, at discounts, or at world prices? !!!

[Olezhek]

Himself supplies Bandera ATGMs

Belarus is an independent state.
And do not tell them!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Olezhek

Belarus is an independent state.
And do not tell them!

But give money at the same time! Because brotherly people.

[Wanderer039]

Well, if we don’t tell them whether to sell weapons to the enemies of the Russian Federation and whether to cooperate with them in the military sphere, then we don’t ask them for loans, jobs and discounts, and certainly there can be no talk of any union state, since it’s on our interests they don't care

[evgen1221]

Well, that’s the essence of the Belarusian stable economy. Oil and resale. They removed one and the schukher began.

[Talgat 148]

Union State .....

[signifera]

Again this cunning figure of the tale tells. The tax change in Russia is the internal affairs of Russia. I’ve gotten used to freeing money for so many years. Say thank you for these sweet years, but now the feeder has decreased, earn money yourself, now it’s sold. And already accept that without Russia you cannot survive and live only at the expense of Russia, and behave appropriately. Or forward, to complete independence and self-sufficiency!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Olezhek

“A few years ago, a major businessman from Kazakhstan decided to work with Belarusians, whom I heard a lot of good about. He signed a contract with a woodworking enterprise near Borisov, through an Arab intermediary he invested $ 750 thousand in the development of production and began to wait for revenue, which, however, did not happen. When the time came to harvest, there was no money:

It's a lie! Spread on the money of the Russian oligarchs, who violently hate socialist Belarus and the most just father of all!

Did Ukraine resell Russian oil at bargain prices too? Throw cheap show-offs and change the training manual

[Gennady Fomkin]

The nickname of this next but coming Trindets-detonator of self-blowing But father Lukashenko is Decree of the President of the Russian Federation dated January 21, 2020 No. 20 “On Approving the Doctrine of Food Security of the Russian Federation”.

Here's the thing: “According to the document, food independence is defined as the percentage of self-sufficiency, calculated as the ratio of the volume of domestic production of agricultural products, raw materials and food to the volume of their domestic consumption and having threshold values ​​in relation to:
grains - not less than 95%;
sugar - not less than 90%;
vegetable oil - not less than 90%;
meat and meat products (in terms of meat) - at least 85%;
milk and dairy products (in terms of milk) - not less than 90%;
fish and fish products (in live weight - the weight of raw) - at least 85%;
potatoes - not less than 95%;
vegetables and melons - not less than 90%;
fruits and berries — at least 60%;
seeds of the main agricultural crops of domestic selection - at least 75%;
food salt - not less than 85% "

[Gennady Fomkin]

Especially for members of the Belarussian Independence Sect (gifted) who are especially gifted with an insane spirit (in two versions) who would like to go crazy again to argue that these things are coordinated with Lukashenko, I inform the following. Food security issues (suddenly) are also a sovereign matter of any independent country. I won’t even poke you with your cunning stigma at what your sovereign President is doing on the Belarusian market. Now you have Kazakhs with competent and sincere friends? So: “The Ministry of Agriculture announced a decision to completely ban the export of livestock from cattle and small cattle from Kazakhstan ... It is noted that“ the massive export of livestock for further processing and resale created the basis for a speculative increase in prices for meat products ”, and“ the current situation led to reduce the load of Kazakhstan meat processing enterprises and feedlots. " Last year they were loaded less than half of their capacity, according to the Ministry of Agriculture. "Since the state agricultural development program for 2017-2021, the Ministry of Agriculture of the Republic of Kazakhstan was tasked with increasing the export of processed products by 2,5 times, the department was forced to take measures regarding the current situation."

[Gennady Fomkin]

“Going with Russia” will no longer work. The freebie is over. Either as part of Russia, or - humanitarian aid from Russia.