Lukashenko instructed to begin negotiations on the supply of oil from Kazakhstan

Lukashenko instructed to begin negotiations on the supply of oil from Kazakhstan

Belarus will hold talks with Kazakhstan on the supply of Kazakhstani oil to the republic. The corresponding powers were received by the Government of Belarus in accordance with the decree of the country's President Alexander Lukashenko.


According to the press service of the Belarusian president, by his decree, the Belarusian leader authorized the government of the republic to negotiate with Kazakhstan on a draft agreement on the supply of oil and oil products and on its signing

Head of State Alexander Lukashenko, by decree No. 27, authorized the government to conduct negotiations with Kazakhstan on trade and economic cooperation in the field of oil and oil products supplies to Belarus, as well as on the draft agreement and its signing upon reaching an agreement within the framework of the approved project

- said in a statement.

Earlier, the president of Belarus accused Russia of pressure on the republic, consisting in a tax maneuver in the oil sector. According to Lukashenko, Russia deliberately launched a tax maneuver in the oil sector in order to put pressure on Minsk. At the same time, he argues that the disagreement between Russia and Belarus arose allegedly because of Moscow’s demands to pay an inflated price for Russian oil in excess of world oil prices.

Lukashenko has repeatedly stated that this tax maneuver reduces revenues to the republic’s budget due to export customs duties on petroleum products and demanded compensation from Russia, which was refused.

Against this background, Belarus introduced an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory, and also began to look for alternative oil suppliers and has already purchased a batch of oil products in Norway.
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  1. Shurik70 29 January 2020 18: 13 New
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    Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...
    repeat
    1. bouncyhunter 29 January 2020 18: 16 New
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      Sasha hi
      Quote: Shurik70
      Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

      Can he have seven Fridays a week? wink
      1. Pension 29 January 2020 18: 36 New
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        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Sasha hi
        Quote: Shurik70
        Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

        Can he have seven Fridays a week? wink

        Yes, everything will be fine Pasha, I’m sure of it .. Old Man is an emotional man, but he understands everything .. Enough for him to rush about, the time is not the same as in 2015 with sanctions .. It is time to unite and discard this trade for the joy of the West. .
        "Belaz," they say the pipeline has already stood up?
        1. bouncyhunter 29 January 2020 18: 42 New
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          Quote: Pension
          Old Man is an emotional man

          Sometimes emotions need to be thrust into a known place. yes
          Quote: Pension
          "Belaz," they say the pipeline has already stood up?

          I don’t know about that ...
          1. Pension 29 January 2020 19: 07 New
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            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Sometimes emotions need to be thrust into a known place.

            It’s not always possible, I understand my dad hi
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            I don’t know about that ...

            Maybe a fake, but the info was slipping and it’s quite possible, according to the current situation .. Raiders are already rubbing their hands .. God forbid, if they gut the whole Belarus .. And the Old Man will remain on the potato. angry
            1. Nicholas C. 29 January 2020 19: 13 New
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              The Uzen-Atyrau-Samara oil pipeline transports highly solidified oil. To pump it, the pipeline is heated along its entire length. But father is sure that Transneft immediately wants to build heating from Samara to Belarusian refineries for free? And can these refineries be able to process such oil without modernization? By the way, the free capacities in this pipe are much less than Belarus needs. And how with all this the price will turn out "as in Smolensk"?
              1. bouncyhunter 29 January 2020 19: 18 New
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                Quote: Nikolay S.
                And how with all this the price will turn out "as in Smolensk"?

                But no way! But father is trying to show a cookie to Russia, and he does not care how and at what price.
                1. cniza 29 January 2020 21: 05 New
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                  Steep it lately, it seems exhausted to the bottom. Hello Pasha! hi
              2. Dr. Sorge 29 January 2020 20: 22 New
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                We will rub the pipe red hot :)
                1. bouncyhunter 29 January 2020 20: 47 New
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                  Misha, glad to welcome! hi drinks
                  Quote: Dr. Sorge
                  We will rub the pipe to red

                  What's the point? wink
                  1. Dr. Sorge 2 February 2020 12: 00 New
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                    Already no, with the pen-do-ssami agreed ... What a joy. :(
              3. Astoria 29 January 2020 20: 36 New
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                To pump it, the pipeline is heated along its entire length. But father is sure that Transneft immediately wants to build heating from Samara to Belarusian refineries for free?
                it’s possible to carry out a swap transaction, this has already happened.

                That is not the question: Kazakh oil is largely contracted, the volume of free oil is not large and they will not sell it cheaper than the market. Recently, Kazakhs have already sent Belarusians to the level of business entities, they will send again if they did not understand the first time. wink
                1. avdkrd 30 January 2020 01: 57 New
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                  So the most unworthy Old Man in the world does not stand at a price. Once the performance rolled and the Kremlin made concessions. Then, in fact, the Old Man bought Azerbaijani oil, but from Chavez (because Venezuelan I have contracted oil and there are no free volumes), about $ 800 per ton. Now he has already bought 560 from the Norwegians, while no one will be able to provide him with the required volume. 80 thousand bought from Norway will be enough for three days of work of the Velikolutsk Oil Refinery, but they have not been delivered yet.
                  Russia sells for 360. Old Man is bluffing, while he has already made himself a liar and a populist.
                  You must understand that he is not an ally and you can not do business with him.
                  It is a mistake to justify his demarches by caring for the people of Belarus. You cannot build the welfare of the state on fraud (sash does not count, another caliber). Belarusian shrimp and duty-free sale of oil products cannot provide development. Belarus rejecting the Union State cannot but lie before the West. Apart from Russia, it simply does not exist.
                  404 in this sense had much greater possibilities, but it ends up like a litter. In principle, loans have already been taken, and since there is nothing to give back, the rest is a matter of time.
            2. Win1945 30 January 2020 08: 25 New
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              Belaz is loaded with orders for news in 2020. What anyone got up in Belarus is not in the know.
              1. Astoria 30 January 2020 10: 31 New
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                Compared to 2018 and mid-2019, BelAZ production halved - to 40 cars per month.

                Production is cyclical (there was record export revenue in 18), caterpillar and comatsu also suffer losses.
        2. Vadivak 29 January 2020 19: 34 New
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          Quote: Pension
          "Belaz," they say the pipeline has already stood up?

          Deliveries to India
          1. cherkas.oe 29 January 2020 19: 54 New
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            Quote: Vadivak
            Deliveries to India

            And what do they supply? And then today I came across infa that they adopted the domestic transport platform, fully electric with wheels, without transmission, etc.
            1. Dr. Sorge 29 January 2020 20: 21 New
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              Which plant? Electrical did not pass the interference test. The mechanics are more reliable.
              1. cherkas.oe 29 January 2020 22: 45 New
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                Quote: Dr. Sorge
                Which plant? Electrical did not pass the interference test.

                PJSC "KAMAZ" produced "REMDIESEL" TASS message. Adopted.
                1. Dr. Sorge 2 February 2020 11: 57 New
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                  I only know about the previous development.
        3. Dr. Sorge 29 January 2020 20: 24 New
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          Who says grandma on the drive? Just now there was a report from Belaz, it’s just not a conveyor belt, but Belazes, ready to be sent to India.
          1. Vlad.by 30 January 2020 00: 29 New
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            In fact, the announcement of the launch of the Platform-O after testing was completed in many media today.
      2. zloybond 29 January 2020 18: 40 New
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        The main tax is not to forget to charge them an ecological one and what else is there)) and let them carry as much as they like.
        1. Tersky 29 January 2020 19: 32 New
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          Quote: zloybond
          The main tax is not to forget to charge them environmental

          Last Friday, all of Belarus found out that it turned out that the republic was “put up with cancer,” and Lukashenko’s introduction of an environmental tax will put Belarus “shrimp”. Tripribals can tell him about this.
      3. Evil543 29 January 2020 19: 14 New
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        Aren't you afraid that the KGB will take you as an oppositionist? hi
        1. Dr. Sorge 29 January 2020 20: 19 New
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          And before that a comma is placed, you, comrade, are not from the CIA? What is your evidence? :)
          1. Evil543 29 January 2020 22: 31 New
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            Well, have you tried writing with a lot? Comrade from the Stasi? And by the way, you in one of your previous posts, missed a comma ...
            1. Dr. Sorge 2 February 2020 11: 59 New
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              Yavol! By the way, the Stasi - one of the strongest intelligence was. I respect her with great respect.
      4. Dr. Sorge 29 January 2020 20: 17 New
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        Hello Pasha! And Fridays can be seven or eight .... And indeed the game is going on, we don’t understand ordinary sofa warriors.
      5. DymOk_v_dYmke 30 January 2020 02: 37 New
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        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Quote: Shurik70
        Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

        Can he have seven Fridays a week?

        Our bourgeois clans have repeatedly raided Belarus and Lukashenko.
        Arrivals are replicated by "non-polite" media, cited. Including here.
        And it is surprising that they are supported by seemingly thinking people.
        I recommend that you familiarize yourself with - competent analysis of the situation. At one and a half speed, it will take ~ 40 minutes.

        I think the desire to support the raids on Belarus will decrease.
      6. Military Builder 30 January 2020 05: 28 New
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        but for some reason I recall the words of the unforgettable M. Zadorny:
        "If the government and the media scold someone, then he is a good person."
    2. Sergey39 29 January 2020 18: 16 New
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      Quote: Shurik70
      Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

      But why not. Will give. It will only introduce an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory.
      1. kjhg 29 January 2020 18: 39 New
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        Does the government need a special decree for the government to start negotiations on oil supplies? belay I thought that this was already the responsibility of the government. request To be honest, all these decrees are a game for the public. It seems to me no, I have long been convinced that a president who respects himself and others should not behave in this way. It’s like a wife offended by her husband begins to specially stage the proceedings in public, telling the details of their personal lives to those who should not have heard it.
      2. Olezhek 30 January 2020 07: 43 New
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        But why not. Will give. It will only introduce an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory.


        Why tax?
        Let him build a pipeline
        At my own expense.
        We will provide land.
        For rent
        Rental rates will be negotiated separately
        Any whim at your expense.
        Russia is not obliged to transit oil for all comers.
        She has no such duty
        In general, Kazakh oil, like Russian oil pipelines, has been given a contract
        and rushing around here is useless. request
    3. rich 29 January 2020 18: 16 New
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      Doesn’t Old Man agreed to receive oil at intra-Kazakh prices? And what is Norwegian too tough for you?
      1. Vasyan1971 29 January 2020 18: 34 New
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        Quote: Rich
        Norwegian was too tough?

        To the teeth. But for some reason they got sick ...
      2. Pension 29 January 2020 18: 40 New
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        Quote: Rich
        Doesn’t Old Man agreed to receive oil at intra-Kazakh prices? And what is Norwegian too tough for you?

        Old Man simply does not know Kazakhs .. laughing Until it reaches Belarus, there will no longer be oil there and Russia will be blamed .. hi
        P / S In Kazakhstan, gas is two times cheaper than in Russia .. But for some reason no one is trying to go there for free .. wassat
        1. Vadivak 29 January 2020 19: 36 New
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          Quote: Pension
          In Kazakhstan, gas is two times cheaper than in Russia .. But for some reason no one is trying to go there for free

          they have Russian gasoline, the price is Kazakh, who lives nearby everyone refuel
      3. Xnumx vis 29 January 2020 21: 33 New
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        Quote: Rich
        Doesn’t Old Man agreed to receive oil at intra-Kazakh prices? And what is Norwegian too tough for you?

        And, as for me, any whim for your money ....! fellow
      4. Olezhek 30 January 2020 07: 44 New
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        Doesn’t Old Man agreed to receive oil at intra-Kazakh prices?


        Below the intra-Kazakh ... all the same, the "fraternal peoples" in some trenches were rotting.
    4. GKS 2111 29 January 2020 18: 19 New
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      Against this background, Belarus introduced environmental oil transit tax through its territory, and also began to look for alternative suppliers of oil and has already purchased a batch of oil products in Norway.
      The same in the same place, an eye for an eye. Once the market, then for everyone. And for the father, too.
    5. Cowbra 29 January 2020 18: 27 New
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      So you need to justify the trust! Do not prove the same. that Old Man is lying. Within the framework of friendly assistance, give him a vegetable to help instead of Kazakh oil. Do not thank they say, do not, we are purely out of friendship
    6. knn54 29 January 2020 18: 29 New
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      Potatoes from Uzbekistan are still cheaper.
      1. marshes 29 January 2020 18: 39 New
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        Quote: knn54
        Potatoes from Uzbekistan are still cheaper.

        There is little potato cultivation there, mostly bought in Kazakhstan or from Kyrgyzstan, for which storage and processing conditions are not bad.
    7. Tersky 29 January 2020 19: 42 New
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      Quote: Shurik70
      Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

      Kazakhstan can potentially supply oil, but the "Caspian Pipeline Consortium" is geared towards deliveries to the port of Novorossiysk, and it is slightly unprofitable to transport the coveted slurry from there by ships. Azerbaijan is in the same region and does not have a direct "thread" to the north either.
      In general, the current situation very much resembles Ukraine at the time when it tried to convince the whole world and itself that some gas other than Russian could be pumped through the gas transportation system. Frankly, this Belarusian oil "Santa Barbara" is beginning to bore.
      1. Astoria 29 January 2020 20: 40 New
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        The question is, I don’t remember exactly, but the railway refineries of the Republic of Belarus cannot be accepted more than + - 300 tons per month, and the Odessa-Brody oil pipeline is empty.
      2. Paranoid50 29 January 2020 23: 29 New
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        Quote: Tersky
        this Belarusian oil "Santa Barbara" is starting to bore.

        For “Santa Barbara” series is not enough, and the plot is tougher.
        It's more like Game of Thrones, the new season where the Dragon Father becomes the White Walker. wassat
    8. Starover_Z 29 January 2020 22: 10 New
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      Quote: Shurik70
      Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...
      repeat

      And how is going to drive oil from Kazakhstan to Belarus? Is there a free deep underground oil pipeline to not pay for Russia's transit? Or maybe airplanes around Russia?
      What do people toggle around? I will never believe that oil from other sources will come out cheaper than Russian!
      Quote: iouris
      Overseas heifers - half, but the ruble - transport.

      1. Olezhek 30 January 2020 07: 45 New
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        And how is going to drive oil from Kazakhstan to Belarus?


        And you are not Belarusian !!! am
  2. Romey 29 January 2020 18: 17 New
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    Mdya ... Belarusians got into the face of oil in nature. On the left are partners, on the right are kremlins, and they are in the middle. It will be difficult to get out. Transit through the territory of the Russian Federation will probably be at a premium.
    1. Alexey RA 29 January 2020 19: 06 New
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      Quote: romey
      Transit through the territory of the Russian Federation will probably be at a premium.

      Not with a margin, but with an environmental fee.
      How it comes around - it will respond. ©
      1. Metlik 29 January 2020 21: 13 New
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        Quote: Alexey RA
        Not with a margin, but with an environmental fee.
        As he comes around, he will respond. ©

        Russia will never introduce this fee, otherwise all transiting countries in Europe will introduce it for us.
      2. Romey 29 January 2020 22: 26 New
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        What is it that fucked up? An invitation to become a semi-colony of a semi-colony? Or are you all so upset by Lukashenko’s refusal to participate in a scam called “transit power of the Russian Federation”. Do not worry, the leader has already found a way out. Sorry for 300 million green, supposedly lost profits? Don't be upset either. This money is not yours, but the oligarchs. Yes, and what is really there. Billions go to the fragile and spiritless west and it’s not a pity ...
        1. Alexey RA 30 January 2020 10: 24 New
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          Quote: romey
          What is it that fucked up? An invitation to become a semi-colony of a semi-colony?

          Gorgeous. We finally see the true face brotherly people.
          How to suck 6 billion a year from the budget of the Russian Federation is normal and decent, and nowhere is squeezing anything. And as soon as it comes to reciprocal services, then immediately “half-colony” and “soured state”.
          Or do you think that Belarus gave money just for the fact that it is?
          To the crocodile, even if the number on the head is tedious, he will not be able to carry out the most basic programs. He has a brain with a bean, even the most primitive pedagogical models like carrots and sticks do not work with him. There, in principle, there are even no rudiments of logical thinking and understanding of cause-effect relationships. Therefore, he will always perceive the whip not as a punishment for misconduct, but as a suddenly inflicted, undeserved offense, and a carrot as a natural, implied tribute to the Universe for his crocodile existence ..

          Quote: romey
          Sorry for 300 million green, supposedly lost profits? Don't be upset either. This money is not yours, but the oligarchs.

          This is money, including the budget. But you continue to believe that the oligarchs are separate, and the budget is separate, and it is filled exclusively with pennies squeezed by the state from the moneyless and brainless Russians. So, it seems, the president of Belarus Mr. Lukashenko spoke about us? wink
          If they have brains and money today that they don’t have, let them invent!
          © AHL
  3. BARKAS 29 January 2020 18: 18 New
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    It was possible to initially determine for them a quota for domestic consumption at an affordable price, all that was selling above the quota at world prices.
  4. iouris 29 January 2020 18: 20 New
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    Overseas heifers - half, but the ruble - transport.
  5. Andrei Gurov 29 January 2020 18: 22 New
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    How is he going to transport oil from Kazakhstan?
    1. Xenofont 29 January 2020 18: 28 New
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      And how can two sea powers? By sea tankers ...
      1. marshes 29 January 2020 18: 42 New
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        Quote: Xenofont
        And how can two sea powers? By sea tankers ...

        By the way, Kazakhstan has its own tanker fleet, sailing not only in the Caspian Sea but in the Black Fleet under its own flag, the Mediterranean and the North with the Baltic.
        1. Mihail2019 29 January 2020 19: 33 New
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          By the way, even if so, during additional resale operations (such as we give our Kazakh oil to the one who is closest, and he already gives the purchased oil to Belarus), the price of the product does not fall. Yes, and the presence of tankers in Kazakhstan does not "warm" Belarus - they simply didn’t have seaports, especially with receiving terminals for tankers (in a completely land country).
          1. marshes 29 January 2020 19: 46 New
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            Quote: Michael2019
            Yes, and the presence of tankers in Kazakhstan does not "warm" Belarus - they simply didn’t have seaports, especially with receiving terminals for tankers (in a completely land country).

            But there are berths in the Baltic states and there is also the port of Ust-Luga through which Kazakhstani oil flows into Western Europe.
            I am aware that it mixes with the light Siberian one in Samara, by the way for the mix, annually Kazakhstan buys up to 1 million tons of this oil. This is the Urals.
            1. Astoria 29 January 2020 20: 52 New
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              No one will pump oil from Kazakhstan to Ust-Luga (for transneft, it makes no sense to mix oil from Kazakhstan with Urals - if you go this way, it’s a swap deal), the question is that refineries in Belarus have limited reception of oil on railway overpasses. So it’s not fundamentally whose oil to take: Norwegian, Kazakh or American.

              Regarding the reverse through friendship, the Poles politely said that they did not have such technical capabilities.

              The key issue is that RB refineries compete with Poland and the Baltic refineries, therefore they will be happy to provide any help that would welcome the final rise in the cost of production of RB refineries (another example - Norwegian oil could be unloaded in Ventspils, rather than dragged to Klaipeda, but:
              (quoted Minister of Transport of Latvia Talis Linkites.
              He commented on the reports that the terminals in the Ventspils port refused to transship Norwegian oil destined for Belarus, and the cargo went to Lithuanian Klaipeda. This was told by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Latvia Edgars Rinkevics. “I know that in Ventspils there are enterprises that themselves refused to transit Norwegian oil through Latvian ports, fearing something. And she went to Klaipeda,” Talis Linkaits said that Latvian ports have the opportunity to transship oil products and oil for Belarus in both directions. However, the terminals operating in the ports are private, and their owners make their own decisions based on business interests)
              .
              1. marshes 29 January 2020 21: 23 New
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                Quote: Astoria
                No one will pump oil from Kazakhstan to Ust-Luga (for transneft, it makes no sense to mix oil from Kazakhstan with Urals - if you go this way, this is a swap deal)

                she has been swinging there for a long time
                The Russian operator Transneft will pay compensation to the Kazakh pipeline operator Kaztransoil at the rate of $ 15 per barrel, while the total amount of compensation for oil contaminated in the Baltic port of Ust-Luga could be about $ 76 million, Deutsche Welle reports.
                1. Astoria 29 January 2020 21: 38 New
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                  Why do you think this is not a swap deal?
                  1. marshes 29 January 2020 21: 46 New
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                    Quote: Astoria
                    Why do you think this is not a swap deal?

                    Because the Dutch in the first place in terms of investment in the oil industry in Kazakhstan and the organochlorine were found at their refineries.
                    And since 2012, deliveries have been going on.
                    1. Astoria 29 January 2020 22: 08 New
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                      Yes, you're right, I thought that transit goes only to Novorossiysk.
                      1. marshes 29 January 2020 22: 23 New
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                        Quote: Astoria
                        Yes, you're right, I thought that transit goes only to Novorossiysk.

                        In general, the geography of supplies is large.
                        Iran - Iranians supply the same volume through the Persian Gulf, there was such, in the northern part they had a shortage of oil for processing.
                        Baku-Tbilisi Batumi-Oil Port belongs to kazmunai gas.
                        Novorossiysk-Southern Europe-Romania-Romapetroil is 100 percent owned by Kazmunai Gas, and part of the port in Constance.
                        Well, China and soon Uzbekistan will buy.
                        I’m more worried that there wouldn’t be any artificial shortage in the domestic market, that refueling prices would not rise out of the bucket, in principle, there is free oil, but it needs to be preserved, because of OPEC it was necessary to reduce exports and therefore we had to send excess oil to oil refineries, that's why we they liked to put cheap gas before this refinery for repairs.
      2. To be or not to be 29 January 2020 19: 10 New
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        How? AS :
        Pompeo will bring with him .. wink
      3. Mihail2019 29 January 2020 19: 35 New
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        Directly from the Caspian to Minsk - yeah!
      4. Andrei Gurov 30 January 2020 08: 35 New
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        And I thought in wineskins on horses.
    2. Alexey RA 29 January 2020 19: 07 New
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      How is he going to transport oil from Kazakhstan?

      Apparently through Azerbaijan, Georgia and Ukraine.
      The most reliable and safe route. laughing
      1. Mihail2019 29 January 2020 19: 28 New
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        Oh yeah!!! Reliable "partners"! laughing
  6. Thrifty 29 January 2020 18: 23 New
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    As if the Kazakhs would sell him oil for "thank you"! am
  7. Labrador 29 January 2020 18: 27 New
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    Alexander Lukashenko, by decree No. 27, authorized the government to negotiate with Kazakhstan on trade and economic cooperation in the supply of oil and oil products to Belarus

    And what? Norwegian still have neither show off nor money?
    1. Dym71 29 January 2020 19: 31 New
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      Quote: Labrador
      And what? Norwegian still have neither show off nor money?

      The norgs have too much quality, the hand does not rise for processing crying
    2. Eug
      Eug 29 January 2020 19: 38 New
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      They don’t give a Norwegian loan in Moscow .. and the data previously spent on 20 thousand tons. or how much is there through Lithuania.
  8. Vasyan1971 29 January 2020 18: 32 New
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    this tax maneuver reduces revenues to the republican budget

    And the throwings we observe - increase, definitely!
  9. marshes 29 January 2020 18: 36 New
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    In Kazakhstan, it will be necessary to negotiate with private companies, the power structure is not much different, our government only regulates it.
    And they will not miss the benefit.
    1. Mihail2019 29 January 2020 19: 26 New
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      Only main oil pipelines, as in Russia, are at the disposal of the only state-owned company, KazTransOil, a complete analogue of Transneft.
      And since Belarus is a well-known “maritime” power, the tough question of logistics arises ...
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        Only main oil pipelines, as in Russia, are at the disposal of the only state-owned company, KazTransOil, a complete analogue of Transneft.

        All this belongs to Kazmunaigas, Kazmunaigas belongs to the state holding Samruk Kazyna and this is a shop with a dubious reputation
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          As if this is changing something ... We Transneft, Rosneft, Gazprom, Gazprom Neft also have nominally different owners. So what?!
          And this doesn’t solve the logistics issues - how can Kazakhstan deliver oil to Belarus?
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            As if this is changing something ... We Transneft, Rosneft, Gazprom, Gazprom Neft also have nominally different owners. So what?!

            But the government doesn’t go there, this is a taboo for investors to scare, because it was not for nothing that our minister made a reservation that the government of Belarus would have to solve this issue with private traders. They just wash their hands.
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              the government of Belarus will have to deal with this issue with private owners. They just wash their hands.

              This is a business approach.(c) Yes, correctly - send, without refusing. laughing
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              But the government does not go there, it is a taboo for investors that can be frightened, because it was not for nothing that our minister made a reservation that the Belarusian government would have to deal with this issue with private owners.

              This is called "dispute of business entities"- when the government does not want to openly acknowledge its interference and translates arrows.
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      And they will not miss the benefit.

      That’s what the head of the Ministry of Energy Nurlan Nogaev said about this - “We will arrange a meeting with resource owners if any of the oil companies express a desire at a cost-effective price or under conditions that satisfy themdeal possible "
  10. Strashila 29 January 2020 18: 37 New
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    “Against this background, Belarus has introduced an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory,” and what prevents Russia from introducing an environmental tax on the transportation of foreign oil through its territory does not actually prevent anything.
    Why Kazakhstan oil, and not Azerbaijani oil, can be used immediately from Alaska.
  11. Dmitry Potapov 29 January 2020 18: 37 New
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    Confused Old Man, Norwegian, Kazakh, Venezuelan, Saudi, it seems to me to buy the "Ukrainian" which one hell will get in Russia.
    1. Tzar 29 January 2020 19: 42 New
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      So it will be, the Kazakhs will drive him the oil in the same way as he did in the Russian Federation of Belarusian salmon smile
  12. To be or not to be 29 January 2020 18: 39 New
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    “The second part of the Marlezon Ballet!”
    Marlezonsky ballet (correctly Merlezonsky) - the ballet that was staged by Louis XIII "The Ballet on the hunt for thrushes", which the king respected
    The expression "Marlezon ballet" in the figurative sense meaning "prolonged-tricked action", because "Marlezon ballet" consisted of 16 acts,
    “In Russian, the catch phrase“ the second part of the Marlezon ballet ”has been fixed, indicating an unexpected development of events or development that is spoken of with irony. Similarly, the expression“ Marlezon ballet ”is sometimes used in a figurative sense to denote a series of events of a grotesque nature."
    Preparing for all 16 acts?
    1. Dym71 29 January 2020 19: 33 New
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      Preparing for all 16 acts?

      good
      But yak zhezh! yes
  13. Prahlad 29 January 2020 18: 56 New
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    Well done Old Man found a way out, did not pass Belarus!
    1. Mihail2019 29 January 2020 19: 21 New
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      Boo ha ha! Shrimp Belarus threw Russia!
    2. Dym71 29 January 2020 19: 34 New
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      Quote: Prahlad
      Well done Old Man found a way out

      The exit is of course good, the entry is unimportant what
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    Lukashenko recently claimed that Russia does not allow him to receive oil from Kazakhstan ...

    But why not. Will give. It will only introduce an environmental tax on oil transit through its territory.

    Plus transit will be at the price that the Old Man takes from us
  15. purple 29 January 2020 18: 59 New
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    Quote: Xenofont
    And how can two sea powers? By sea tankers ...

    By the way, Kazakhstan has its own tanker fleet, sailing not only in the Caspian Sea but in the Black Fleet under its own flag, the Mediterranean and the North with the Baltic.

    well let yourself swim laughing where will he get oil?
  16. faterdom 29 January 2020 19: 07 New
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    There is still Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Mexico in the end! Nigeria again! Saw, Old Man, they are golden!
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      There is still Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Mexico in the end! Nigeria again!

      Yes, who would have already thrown off Butsko’s Maduro’s number - yes, there it can be cheaper than in Smolensk. fellow
  17. nduchvve 29 January 2020 19: 09 New
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    According to the press service of the Belarusian president, by his decree, the Belarusian leader authorized the government of the republic to negotiate with Kazakhstan on a draft agreement on the supply of oil and oil products and on its signing

    - Well, like this. In the morning I will see enough news about supreme ruler of Russia. What else to expect ...
  18. GABALIS 29 January 2020 19: 14 New
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    "Three hundred and thirty-second part of the Marlezon ballet ..." fellow
  19. Victor March 47 29 January 2020 19: 17 New
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    Correct solution. To transport oil by tankers leased in the USA along the route developed by Ms. Psaki. Show presumptuous Putin, that has not yet become damp at the Old Man in ..... a powder flask.
  20. Mihail2019 29 January 2020 19: 18 New
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    I wonder how he is going to get oil from Kazakhstan, bypassing Transneft ?!
    And another big question - does KazTransOil have the capacity and volume to satisfy the “Buttski” hotel rooms ?!
    As far as I know, over the last 20 years, KazTranOil has been looking more towards China ..
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      I wonder how he is going to get oil from Kazakhstan, bypassing Transneft ?!

      theoretically it is possible, but extremely cool, Caspian-Iser-rodents-Sumerians, and in the old man cheap oil
  21. Ros 56 29 January 2020 19: 20 New
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    Luke, he is in Africa Luke. It seems not a kid, but antics, as if he were from a kindergarten and a toy was taken from him. fool
  22. Victor March 47 29 January 2020 19: 20 New
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    Quote: To be or not to be
    “The second part of the Marlezon Ballet!”
    Marlezonsky ballet (correctly Merlezonsky) - the ballet that was staged by Louis XIII "The Ballet on the hunt for thrushes", which the king respected
    The expression "Marlezon ballet" in the figurative sense meaning "prolonged-tricked action", because "Marlezon ballet" consisted of 16 acts,
    “In Russian, the catch phrase“ the second part of the Marlezon ballet ”has been fixed, indicating an unexpected development of events or development that is spoken of with irony. Similarly, the expression“ Marlezon ballet ”is sometimes used in a figurative sense to denote a series of events of a grotesque nature."
    Preparing for all 16 acts?

    It is not enough for me. From the first time, taking into account age, it does not reach. Only the third time. And right away. Because if there is a break, I forget. what was at the beginning.
  23. Alexander X 29 January 2020 19: 30 New
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    As the Old Man is less worried about Belarusians and more about his own ambitions. “Frozen ears to spite grandmother” will be paid for by Belarusians, who will receive less due to unpaid income taxes (after all, the profitability of oil refineries will likely go to a minus) and not built schools and hospitals, etc. social network. Yes, it spoils relations with Russia, which again can come back to an increase in duties on BELAZ, a tractor ... or even less unpleasant. First of all, you need to think about the people of your country. IMHO.
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    That's it, an environmental tax on the transportation of oil through the territory of the Russian Federation. And the tariff for transportation is the same as for Druzhba .. everything is exactly the same "brotherly" ...
  25. Knell wardenheart 29 January 2020 19: 45 New
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    The old man went on a trip to the Old Man, well, or he wants to try all the oil of the world ..
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    This somehow relates to the military review)) in my opinion, the author of such topics as that does not breathe evenly to Belarus
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    judging by the actions of some individuals, spring has already arrived, well, or the autumn has delayed
  28. tezey 29 January 2020 20: 48 New
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    And that Lukashenko is so excited. If he does not like the price of Russian oil or does not like the quality, then he has a great choice. The international oil market is abundant from Iran to the United States. I don’t want to buy. So let him dare, maybe he will find it cheaper and better. Only somehow it is doubtful that someone will sell him oil at bargain prices.
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    This song is good, start from the beginning ...
    It seems to me that discussions have reached an impasse, the same thing every day ...
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      It seems to me that the discussions have reached an impasse, the same thing every day ..


      How can one not be glad for the economic and logistical achievements of the neighbors. good
  30. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 21: 00 New
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    For example, in a situation with excess organochlorine in oil. An unpleasant, but typical situation for oil production - over there, Kazakhstan recently stopped exporting oil to China about this, and no one is hysterical for some reason. And in Belarus in April-May last year, so many screams were heard that the fluctuations of the earth's crust are still going on. laughing
    1. marshes 29 January 2020 21: 30 New
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      For example, in a situation with excess organochlorine in oil. An unpleasant, but typical situation for oil production - over there, Kazakhstan recently stopped exporting oil to China about this, and no one is hysterical for some reason. And in Belarus in April-May last year, so many screams were heard that the fluctuations of the earth's crust are still going on.

      So this oil was discovered before being fed into the pipe, and was not driven further to oil refineries.
  31. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 21: 04 New
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    Nenuacho, stroking the government, private Belarusian partners of foreign businessmen play the same scam: “A few years ago, a major businessman from Kazakhstan decided to work with Belarusians, whom I heard a lot of good about. He signed a contract with a woodworking enterprise near Borisov, through an Arab intermediary he invested $ 750 thousand in the development of production and began to wait for revenue, which, however, did not happen. When the time came to harvest, there was no money: a Belarusian businessman said that the industry had covered an unprecedented a crisis. After long attempts to find a common language, a foreign businessman decided to seek protection in power and turned to law enforcement agencies. A criminal case was instituted against Belarus and ordered to return the money. But there is no money and, it seems, will not be ” laughing
    1. Olezhek 30 January 2020 07: 54 New
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      “A few years ago, a major businessman from Kazakhstan decided to work with Belarusians, whom I heard a lot of good about. He signed a contract with a woodworking enterprise near Borisov, through an Arab intermediary he invested $ 750 thousand in the development of production and began to wait for revenue, which, however, did not happen. When the time came to harvest, there was no money:


      It's a lie! Spread on the money of the Russian oligarchs, who violently hate socialist Belarus and the most just father of all!
  32. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 21: 11 New
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    So, “Belarus has already been looking for alternative sources of oil in previous years. So, from Venezuela, the republic purchased the Santa Barbara brand in the early 2010s. However, the extremely expensive logistics and poor quality of raw materials forced to resort to a swap scheme with Azerbaijan. In total, the republic purchased about 3,4 million tons from Venezuela in three years. Interestingly, the average price per ton of Russian raw materials for Belarus in 2010 was $ 434, and Venezuelan - $ 647.

    Belarus purchased a little less than a million tons from Azerbaijan in 2011 - at a price of $ 838 per ton. For comparison: Russian oil then cost about $ 430 per ton. In 2016, Belarus again turned to Azerbaijan, however, it also bought oil in small volumes: 560 thousand tons. In 2017, the republic purchased 1,4 million tons of oil from Iran. ”

    That is, how would a riddle be drawn to us - why was there such a loss? No, the option that they were afraid of this blackmail is not rolling; The Kremlin, in principle, is not afraid of this nonsense. Novaya Gazeta is a so-so source, but, it’s all insanely interesting; moreover, there are links to material in the cited text. So, the article of 2012: “Minsk pays $ 30-60 for the delivery of a ton of oil from Venezuela to cover the supply of contraband Russian raw materials to the Belarusian refineries, which cost him $ 200-250 cheaper than the world price. Losses of the Russian budget from the supply of contraband oil to Belarus and the re-export of hydrocarbons through this country exceed a billion dollars a year of unpaid duties ... It seems that having lost official oil benefits last year (2011 - L2005), Minsk agreed with some Russian partners on the supply of duty-free Russian raw materials to Belarus by other routes.

    Last year supplies of fuel oil from Kazakhstan (2011 - L2005) increased Belarusian imports from this country five times ... Based on the documentation of the Belarusian Railway, at least a part of Kazakhstan’s hydrocarbons entering Belarus are not fuel oil, but “crude oil”. But why should Minsk hide oil imports from Kazakhstan under the guise of fuel oil? Experts note that such a cover is typical of smuggling of duty-free Russian oil through Kazakhstan. According to the agreement between Moscow and Astana, Russian oil companies have the right to export raw materials to Kazakhstan duty free - for processing at local refineries. In fact, a substantial portion of hydrocarbons is re-exported from there to third countries. At the border, smuggling takes the form of export of fuel oil, allegedly obtained during the processing of Russian raw materials in Kazakhstan, and Kazakhstani export duty on fuel oil is paid - many times less than the Russian oil duty. By not paying half of the export duty, enterprising exporters can earn standard profits by selling smuggled oil 30% cheaper than the world price. Market participants ironically refer to the scheme as the export of "crude fuel oil" ... laughing
  33. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 21: 16 New
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    There is much more interesting in the article. Clarifying Belarusian muddy schemes and options for circumventing the law by domestic Russian crooks. Yeah, come on, make a polyphony, father-in-law zmagars. For the fact that in the schemes of deceiving the Russian budget there are homegrown scammers. Tryndets, discovered Mars in my school telescope. laughing
  34. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 21: 20 New
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    So, kasatiki, Witnesses of Belarusian Independence, you can shy away from disagreeing with the supply of Russian oil and burst out with delight because of the alternative possibilities of replenishing the skinny Belarusian budget, but the harsh truth of life is one, and you will not like it. Because it is that you live in your own country, in many ways, sitting on Russian oil resources. Even your modest independent oil production is a pleasant bonus, because all of its volumes, for the whole time of your independence, are comparable to annual purchases from Russia. laughing
  35. Romka 29 January 2020 21: 35 New
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    Well, we are Belarusians, we are already walking around the Poles. By popularity on VO! It's nice to base yourself in the spotlight. wink . I sympathize with the forum users from the Urals, Siberia, the Far East - everything is ordinary with you, there’s nothing to write about. Not life, but boredom. Hold on, Siberians! drinks
  36. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 21: 36 New
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    Those modest Norwegian 80 thousand tons, the price of which the Belarusian oil company is silent more stupid than the convinced underground worker at the Gestapo interrogation, will be delivered according to the long road model in the dunes of Lithuania: “the raw materials will be loaded into railway tanks and transported to Belarus. The representative of the Lithuanian Railways, Thomas Digaitis, told BNS that oil will be transported by rail to the Belarusian border for about two weeks - up to 90 wagons per day. ” And it will cost extra - $ 20 per ton.

    And “To load one Naftan, about nine million tons are required annually, that is, about 25 thousand tons daily. The Mozyr refinery processes about ten million tons per year, ”that is, approximately 25 thousand tons per day. And then the speed of supply - 80 thousand tons in two weeks. One of my got an understanding about the effectiveness of logistics laughing
  37. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 21: 52 New
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    So, on January 21, Lukashenko said: “Perhaps Kazakhstan will be able to supply us oil if Russia agrees to this. Strange: our ally does not consent to the supply of oil from our other ally. Well, this situation is now on oil supplies, and we must figure it out, "the Head of State said."

    We’ll immediately deal with situevina oil transit to Belarus from Kazakhstan. Well, I'm harmful because the memory is good, and I visit the site of the President of the Republic of Belarus more often than all pro-Lukashenko trolls together. And I remember that exactly three months ago, on October 21, 2019, in an interview with the leading media of Kazakhstan, Lukashenko said: “One of these projects you mentioned is the supply of Kazakhstani oil to our refineries, fully modernized according to the European standard with deep oil refining. I think if Russia is interested in the development of our economic union, it will not interfere with this. Because if we start to block common projects in the EAEU, well, as I often say, then other countries, like Belarus, Kazakhstan, will seek outside happiness ... I think that we will succeed with the supply and refining of oil, if we agree on the price. Well, why not agree? Together we can process your oil and sell it on the premium European market, on the Ukrainian market, on any one. Because the quality, the yield is good, we have oil products ... if they clogged here, if there is no oil movement in the direction of the ally, Belarus (Russia does not allow this oil to pass through), then the Kazakhstanis begin to look at China, they begin to look south - to Pakistan, India. " severe insanity was established immediately, alluding to the fact that the Kazakhs would happily give Lukashenko all the time if Russia missed that amount; the Chinese, however, apparently do not know for that. We will talk below, how impressed are alternative sellers of Russia with a Belarusian buyer, so far - for the transit of volumes. That is, “Russia does not have a separate pipeline for direct oil supplies from Kazakhstan to Belarus, while the available capacities are used to export oil produced in Russia abroad, Pavel Zavalny, chairman of the State Duma committee on energy, told RNS. “There is no direct pipe from Kazakhstan to Belarus; there is a Transneft system for the supply of oil from our fields for export, including to Belarus. In addition, each oil field has its own composition, that is, not every oil field can process oil at any refinery, ”Zavalny said.

    No, in Sineokoi, it flashed from his answer (rummage through resources and Internet smokers yourself, I don’t have many links to place here), but the man essentially said correctly. The pipe is not dimensionless, the volumes in it are contracted, and the quality of the raw materials is agreed upon there separately. That is, just like that, just taking and taking the volume out of it in order to inject the friendly Kazakhstani oil purchased by Belarus is impossible. laughing
  38. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 21: 54 New
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    Since a month later, on November 20, “Kazakhstan did not offer Russia to launch the transit of Kazakh oil through Russia to Belarus ... We discussed this issue during a visit to the Electricity Council. The Minister of Energy (Kazakhstan - Kanat Bozumbayev spoke about these negotiations with the Belarusian side, we have no more information. There are no specific official proposals, "Novak said, RIA Novosti reports. Kazakhstan’s Deputy Energy Minister Aset Magauov said earlier that Kazakhstan and Belarus began preparations for the signing of an agreement on the supply of oil and oil products. For his part, Bozumbayev said that the basic terms of the agreement have been agreed, the issue of prohibition of re-export has been resolved. Deliveries may range from 1 million to 3,5 million tons of oil per year.

    Apparently, it really hung up like that, if for three months, judging by the conversations in Sineokoi, things are still there. At the stage of discussion of opportunities. What did Russia close you, dear? laughing
  39. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 21: 59 New
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    Thus, the transit “problems” from Kazakhstan to Belarus live exclusively within the Belarusian official brains. They didn’t talk about this topic with Russia. Not exactly how much oil will need to be supplied, nor what kind of oil will have to be supplied, nor in any way. Question for advanced supporters of Lukashenko: what should anyone answer who if no one asked? laughing
  40. Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2020 22: 03 New
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    Estimate, I understand the reasons why I did not ask. Because these same Kazakhs suddenly became difficult partners after the upheavals of Lukashenko’s previous oil struggle with the Russian government. Because here the question arises as the horseradish of a manufacturing bull, in view of Lukashenko’s hijacking of oil transit through Belarusian territory, which somehow can suddenly get in touch with the discussion of the conditions of transportation through the territory of Russia. We will analyze each reason separately, while the general conclusion: the impression that Lukashenko speaks seriously about oil from Kazakhstan is not.


    For some reason, Lukashenko is convinced, and his minions, too, that you can endlessly use the same deception scheme. But doubts take me - is this self-appointed tycoon really the most cunning? Because, if Panikovsky nifiga does not understand that he was already familiar in the territory somehow, then they will eventually beat him. Which begins to be. laughing
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      The namesake, do you have worms ???
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        The namesake will cover you tangentially laughing
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    Multiple sclerosis along the side of the dad, and this is already scary. It’s good that it’s not like Reagan .....
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    Oh, I smell this daddy play out ..... This in the course of senility covers ... I hope that he will not survive the elections ........ In the sense of not re-elected .... Otherwise, Belarus Khan! The second Ukraine will be on the way ....
  43. Bear040 29 January 2020 23: 05 New
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    It itself supplies anti-tank guided missile systems to Bandera, and the RF is to blame ... And from Kazakhstan to carry oil in balloons, through Sumeria ?! In Kazakhstan, oil will be given for nothing, at discounts, or at world prices? !!!
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      Himself supplies Bandera ATGMs


      Belarus is an independent state.
      And do not tell them!
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        Belarus is an independent state.
        And do not tell them!

        But give money at the same time! Because brotherly people.
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        Well, if we don’t tell them whether to sell weapons to the enemies of the Russian Federation and whether to cooperate with them in the military sphere, then we don’t ask them for loans, jobs and discounts, and certainly there can be no talk of any union state, since it’s on our interests they don't care
  44. evgen1221 30 January 2020 04: 41 New
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    Well, that’s the essence of the Belarusian stable economy. Oil and resale. They removed one and the schukher began.
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    Again this cunning figure of the tale tells. The tax change in Russia is the internal affairs of Russia. I’ve gotten used to freeing money for so many years. Say thank you for these sweet years, but now the feeder has decreased, earn money yourself, now it’s sold. And already accept that without Russia you cannot survive and live only at the expense of Russia, and behave appropriately. Or forward, to complete independence and self-sufficiency!
  48. Gennady Fomkin 30 January 2020 15: 56 New
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    Quote: Olezhek
    “A few years ago, a major businessman from Kazakhstan decided to work with Belarusians, whom I heard a lot of good about. He signed a contract with a woodworking enterprise near Borisov, through an Arab intermediary he invested $ 750 thousand in the development of production and began to wait for revenue, which, however, did not happen. When the time came to harvest, there was no money:


    It's a lie! Spread on the money of the Russian oligarchs, who violently hate socialist Belarus and the most just father of all!
    Did Ukraine resell Russian oil at bargain prices too? Throw cheap show-offs and change the training manual laughing
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    The nickname of this next but coming Trindets-detonator of self-blowing But father Lukashenko is Decree of the President of the Russian Federation dated January 21, 2020 No. 20 “On Approving the Doctrine of Food Security of the Russian Federation”.

    Here's the thing: “According to the document, food independence is defined as the percentage of self-sufficiency, calculated as the ratio of the volume of domestic production of agricultural products, raw materials and food to the volume of their domestic consumption and having threshold values ​​in relation to:
    grains - not less than 95%;
    sugar - not less than 90%;
    vegetable oil - not less than 90%;
    meat and meat products (in terms of meat) - at least 85%;
    milk and dairy products (in terms of milk) - not less than 90%;
    fish and fish products (in live weight - the weight of raw) - at least 85%;
    potatoes - not less than 95%;
    vegetables and melons - not less than 90%;
    fruits and berries — at least 60%;
    seeds of the main agricultural crops of domestic selection - at least 75%;
    food salt - not less than 85% " laughing
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    Especially for members of the Belarussian Independence Sect (gifted) who are especially gifted with an insane spirit (in two versions) who would like to go crazy again to argue that these things are coordinated with Lukashenko, I inform the following. Food security issues (suddenly) are also a sovereign matter of any independent country. I won’t even poke you with your cunning stigma at what your sovereign President is doing on the Belarusian market. Now you have Kazakhs with competent and sincere friends? So: “The Ministry of Agriculture announced a decision to completely ban the export of livestock from cattle and small cattle from Kazakhstan ... It is noted that“ the massive export of livestock for further processing and resale created the basis for a speculative increase in prices for meat products ”, and“ the current situation led to reduce the load of Kazakhstan meat processing enterprises and feedlots. " Last year they were loaded less than half of their capacity, according to the Ministry of Agriculture. "Since the state agricultural development program for 2017-2021, the Ministry of Agriculture of the Republic of Kazakhstan was tasked with increasing the export of processed products by 2,5 times, the department was forced to take measures regarding the current situation." laughing
  51. Gennady Fomkin 30 January 2020 16: 37 New
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    Going with Russia "will not work. The freebie is over. Either as part of Russia, or humanitarian aid from Russia. laughing