The Bundeswehr announced the deplorable state of the latest BMP "Puma"

The Bundeswehr announced the deplorable state of the latest BMP "Puma"

The German Bundeswehr is forced to use ordinary cars in the exercises instead of infantry fighting vehicles due to the malfunction of most armored vehicles. About this writes the German edition of Bild with reference to the secret data of the Bundeswehr.


According to the publication, only 19,1% of the Puma infantry fighting vehicles are on alert. The cause of the malfunction of this infantry fighting vehicle, which has already received the nickname "problem child" in the German army, is a banal lack of spare parts and difficulty in maintenance.

The problem of lack of BMP is reflected in the educational process of the Bundeswehr. Due to the lack of serviceable armored vehicles, German officers are forced to look for alternatives, often using ordinary cars instead of infantry fighting vehicles. A recommendation by the German military has already appeared, proposing to consider "innovative training options."

Other vehicles are used to train boarding and alighting

- declared in the Ministry of Defense of Germany.

According to Bild, in fact, this means that motorized infantry units that do not have enough Puma BMPs for training should use ordinary cars instead.

In 2023, the command of the NATO Rapid Reaction Forces was transferred to Germany: the Bundeswehr promised to add a motorized infantry brigade with 40 Puma infantry fighting vehicles to them. The new armored vehicles should enter the troops before the end of 2021, however, it is noted that in the case of the deplorable state of the latest Puma infantry fighting vehicles, German soldiers will have to transfer back to the Marder infantry fighting vehicles, which have been in service with the Bundeswehr since 1971.
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  1. bessmertniy 29 January 2020 10: 01 New
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    So it’s about carts and tarantulas. Still, to ruin cars on relative off-road is somehow silly. what
    1. NEXUS 29 January 2020 13: 20 New
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      is a banal lack of spare parts and difficulty in maintenance.

      The Germans did not learn at all from their mistakes of the past. The Tigers and Panthers were also complex, although technologically advanced, but at the same time, while one Tiger was being built, the USSR riveted 5 T-34s.
      1. orionvitt 29 January 2020 20: 35 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        Tigers and Panthers were also complex, albeit technologically advanced, but at the same time, while one Tiger was being built, the USSR riveted 5 T-34s

        Complex, yes, they had such a problem (like most German technology). But how complicated can it be in production and operation? Technological were just Soviet tanks. And while the Germans were building one "Tiger", ours produced not 5, but 12 T-34s.
    2. TermNachTer 29 January 2020 20: 28 New
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      They have problems in everything. Both airplanes and ships. One of the pillars of NATO, is not in the best condition. And just now, in general - he laughed for a long time. The battalion commander, Lieutenant Colonel, 42 years old, decided to change sex. Herr was a battalion commander, and became Frau.
  2. Evil543 29 January 2020 10: 02 New
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    Let us buy old BMP1s that are reliable and tested, and we have in stock good
    1. rich 29 January 2020 10: 11 New
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      BMP "Puma"



      Classification infantry fighting vehicle
      Combat weight, t 43,0
      Crew, pers. Xnumx
      Landing, people 6 [1]
      History
      Manufacturer Rheinmetall
      Years of production from 2009 to present
      Years of operation military tests since 2008; in service since 2015
      Number of issued, pcs. 100 as of December 2016 [2]
      Main operators Germany
      dimensions
      Body length, mm 7330
      Width, mm 3710; 3900 (Konfigurationsstufe "C")
      Height, mm 3600
      Clearance, mm 450
      Reservation
      Armor type modular, composite AMAP, additional DZ
      Forehead, mm / city. from feathered anti-caliber shells of the CLB. up to 45 mm
      Board of the case, mm / city. min from 30 mm feathered sub-caliber shells
      Feed housing, mm / city. from 14,5 mm bullets
      Bottom, mm level IVa protection according to STANAG 4569: from 10 kg of anti-tank mines and from mine detonation based on projectile
      Active protection type MUSS
      Dynamic Protection ERA CLARA Dynamit Nobel Defense; order 2015 for 200 sets of DZ, set weight 1 t [3]
      weaponry
      Caliber and brand of gun 30 mm MK 30-2 / AVM
      Type rifled automatic guns
      400 gun ammunition
      Thermal imaging sights, with day and night channels and a laser range finder
      Machine guns 1 × 5,56 mm HK MG4
      Other weapons ATGM Spike
      Mobility
      engine's type
      [show] HPD
      Engine power, l with. Xnumx
      Engine power, kW 800
      Highway speed, km / h 70
      Cruising on highway, km 600
      Specific Power, l s / t 34,1 (24,9)
      Suspension type individual hydropneumatic
      SBMP “Puma” irina caterpillars, mm 500
      1. V.I.P. 29 January 2020 14: 01 New
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        Judging by the performance characteristics, good booking performance and mine protection (take care of personnel). It’s interesting, but what components and assemblies do they break down, that only 20% of cars are in service? This is a particular unit or a little bit everywhere and everywhere))))
        1. Private-K 29 January 2020 23: 46 New
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          Good performance characteristics?
          Do you even understand anything about armored vehicles?
          With a mass of 43 tons, the level of frontal protection is only slightly higher than the 19-ton BMP-3, which 32 years old from acceptance into service hit.
          With weapons in the form of a 30-mm auto-toothpick excusable for a 13-15 ton machine, but just ridiculous for a 43 ton?
          The car breaks down as if it had just appeared, and there were no decades of development and many years of refinement ...
          And this is at a breathtakingly sky-high price per unit.
          Awesome.
          1. V.I.P. 30 January 2020 14: 47 New
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            BMP-3 holds a blast of 10 kg of anti-tank mines, and the crew at the same time survive ?? BMP-3 of the UAE army following the results of the battles in Yemen is withdrawn from service (it was called a burning coffin), they remove a tower with weapons and put them on a wheeled infantry fighting vehicle or armored personnel carrier (as it is positioned there) ... And the Israeli Namer generally armed with a machine gun. Only for the protection of personnel, no BMP of the army of the Russian Federation stood close to him .... But armored vehicles should protect personnel from modern threats. And soldiers can burn in the Urals (it’s easier and cheaper) and why the heck is a BMP 2/3 ...
            1. Private-K 31 January 2020 11: 31 New
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              Saudis with Emirates lost one undermined BMP-3 and several hundred your favorite mine-protected MPDs.
              You must be able to fight ...
              And nobody removes combat modules from the BMP-3! Do not lie! On the contrary, the people want as much as possible to have BBMs armed with such a powerful multifunctional combat module and are ready to install it on other base chassis.
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              Well, in fact, the obvious shortcomings of the German BMP Puma striking you have nothing to say.
              The 19-ton BMP-3 even in the basic version has frontal projection protection from 30 mm OBPS, and Puma - from 45 mm (supposedly !!) with a weight of 43 tons. In this case, the machine has the latest type of armored ceramic elements ...
              The 19-ton BMP-3 has a powerful multifunctional combat weapon module from 100-mm guns and a 30-mm autocannon; and the Germans only managed to sell Puma a 30-mm auto-fumbler (although they understood that this was an unpromising bolt and wanted a 50-mm one). At 43 tons.
              In this case, BMP3 more than 30 years since the start of production, and Puma - fresh, and 5 years old.
              The new BMP-3 arrives in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation already equipped with additional protection (see the recent video) the contents of which are not disclosed. But it will not be at all surprising that a 2-3-ton hitch, improving the composition of the main armor, will give the updated BMP-3 protection not inferior to the 43-ton Puma, or it will be better.

              But you can revel in the Puma's mine defense and bow down further.
      2. orionvitt 29 January 2020 20: 43 New
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        Quote: Rich
        The number of issued, pcs. 100 as of December 2016

        If the number of issued 100, and the number of combat-ready 19,1%, then the "one and a half digger" is obtained. Something their statistics do not fit. Or in combat readiness nineteen cars and one track from the twentieth. laughing
  3. rocket757 29 January 2020 10: 05 New
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    The German Bundeswehr is forced to use ordinary cars in the exercises instead of infantry fighting vehicles due to the malfunction of most armored vehicles.

    If this is not disinfect ... okay, this is their business, they were very lucky with the former Minister of Defense !!! But the life of the army became very good, which is also a plus.
  4. Graz 29 January 2020 10: 07 New
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    The cause of the malfunction of this infantry fighting vehicle, which has already received the nickname "problem child" in the German army, is a banal lack of spare parts and difficulty in maintenance.
    -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -------
    Well, what else to say gloomy German genius, they themselves pile up this, then they won’t figure out what to do about it
    1. Dur_mod 29 January 2020 10: 57 New
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      Technologies are expensive, the latest military equipment, like modern automobiles, is very expensive to maintain. The paradox is that on the old one it is possible to carry out and restore teachings, but on the new one only wept. The same tiger could only fight with a repair team with a tractor every day.
  5. Cowbra 29 January 2020 10: 08 New
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    “What a stupid terran brought to the country ... Damn it, I think I’ve made a mistake? That is, palm oil and pensions aren’t here,” thought a good half of VO regular commentators tongue
  6. Amateur 29 January 2020 10: 09 New
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    So the Bundeswehr needs to quickly learn from their fighting comrades from Latvia.
    1. Cowbra 29 January 2020 10: 25 New
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      Rather like this:

      And the shot surrenders to me, it's NATO
  7. Gust 29 January 2020 10: 15 New
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    Exactly, they all ruined and plundered. Take and shake all sorts of oligarchs Raimanov and Sheffler so that instead of villas and yachts there is money for repairs and the purchase of new equipment. And replace the Minister of Defense with a career officer instead of any gynecologists, then there will be order! wassat
  8. rosomaha 29 January 2020 10: 20 New
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    what ... have already broken? ... oh yes well done! Share your experience with all of NATO ... we need it
  9. Vitaly Tsymbal 29 January 2020 10: 22 New
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    Oh, how bad things are with the Germans !!!! But there is a silver lining - the German infantry can afford an attack on the Mercier, and we in Russia, according to some local comrades, scare the whole world with the old BMP-1. Let the Germans not worry, because in the opinion of our liberal analysts, the one who has the bigger budget will win in the war, and not the one who has good and ready-to-use equipment ......
  10. knn54 29 January 2020 10: 24 New
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    "No harp, take a tambourine."
  11. rotmistr60 29 January 2020 10: 25 New
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    only 19,1% of the Puma infantry fighting vehicles are on alert
    Wonderful. In the hope of collective NATO, their armed forces have completely collapsed. It is not for nothing that the countries of Eastern Europe (the Baltic states, Poland ...) are pushing the loudest screaming about the Russian threat in the hope that the "hegemon" will come and help. The Americans are strengthening their presence, but whether the Germans will fight for the same question is exclusively rhetorical. We only win from this state of the European armies. Hence the conclusion - there are more ministers of defense-gynecologists in the EU countries.
  12. Ravil_Asnafovich 29 January 2020 10: 28 New
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    Yes, this is a banal (request) warning, do not attack us, we are not ready.
    1. Private-K 29 January 2020 23: 36 New
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      Not this way. This is a German army sabotage. Do not "do not attack us," but "we are unable to attack anyone, and do not drag us into a war that we do not want."
      Which does not completely eliminate the severe problems with the Puma BMP itself (although there are quite a few demented people who are delighted with it).
  13. Vasyan1971 29 January 2020 10: 30 New
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    The German Bundeswehr is forced to use ordinary cars in the exercises instead of infantry fighting vehicles due to the malfunction of most armored vehicles.

    Figase, gloomy German genius! That - sticks, instead of machine guns, now it's ...
    Ursula is trying ....
    1. cniza 29 January 2020 10: 45 New
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      Ursula is no longer in business, and her merit is minimal, what will happen next with Europe?
      1. Vasyan1971 29 January 2020 10: 49 New
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        Quote: cniza
        Ursula is no longer in business, and her merit is minimal

        And the traces of her life? Not one day all this has grown?
        It is enough to recall the ambiguous memory of Serdyukov ...
        1. cniza 29 January 2020 12: 22 New
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          The United States, Germany, the occupied country, did the main work there and so far there will be no "exceptional" army there.
  14. cniza 29 January 2020 10: 44 New
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    According to Bild, in fact, this means that motorized infantry units that do not have enough Puma BMPs for training should use ordinary cars instead.


    The US has done its work and continues to track ...
  15. Ros 56 29 January 2020 13: 46 New
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    Well, to hell with them, we found a topic for discussion. Let Stoltenberg's head hurt.
  16. NF68 29 January 2020 14: 04 New
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    The Germans survived. Manstein and Co in coffins rotate like gyroscopes. And von lehr Leyen, the main culprit of this triumph, went on the rise.
  17. Zomanus 29 January 2020 14: 47 New
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    Well, in fact, what for them troops?
    Are they planning to keep defense from someone?
    They are already occupied by the United States, it will protect them ... probably.
    1. Nadrub 29 January 2020 18: 02 New
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      From Iran? :)
  18. Ax Matt 29 January 2020 18: 10 New
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    Well, history shows that the Germans can train "tank wedges" on ordinary tractors ... you have to keep an eye on them!
    1. Viktor Sergeev 30 January 2020 17: 38 New
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      There are no longer those Germans who have degenerated, turned into an amorphous body, which they have been told from childhood: you are to blame.
      1. Ax Matt 30 January 2020 18: 13 New
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        While they are in NATO, it’s not bad either ... There is motivation to be friends with us.
  19. _Ugene_ 29 January 2020 22: 12 New
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    here you have high-quality German technology, maybe desa?
  20. Viktor Sergeev 30 January 2020 17: 37 New
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    Soon they will be as in a joke, the pilots with arms outstretched will fly, and the tank men will growl and ride. The Germans are not stupid and understand that no one will attack them. Well, they do not want to be like the Americans.