The Bundeswehr announced the deplorable state of the latest BMP "Puma"

The German Bundeswehr is forced to use ordinary cars in the exercises instead of infantry fighting vehicles due to the malfunction of most armored vehicles. About this writes the German edition of Bild with reference to the secret data of the Bundeswehr.

According to the publication, only 19,1% of the Puma infantry fighting vehicles are on alert. The cause of the malfunction of this infantry fighting vehicle, which has already received the nickname "problem child" in the German army, is a banal lack of spare parts and difficulty in maintenance.

The problem of lack of BMP is reflected in the educational process of the Bundeswehr. Due to the lack of serviceable armored vehicles, German officers are forced to look for alternatives, often using ordinary cars instead of infantry fighting vehicles. A recommendation by the German military has already appeared, proposing to consider "innovative training options."

Other vehicles are used to train boarding and alighting

- declared in the Ministry of Defense of Germany.

According to Bild, in fact, this means that motorized infantry units that do not have enough Puma BMPs for training should use ordinary cars instead.

In 2023, the command of the NATO Rapid Reaction Forces was transferred to Germany: the Bundeswehr promised to add a motorized infantry brigade with 40 Puma infantry fighting vehicles to them. The new armored vehicles should enter the troops before the end of 2021, however, it is noted that in the case of the deplorable state of the latest Puma infantry fighting vehicles, German soldiers will have to transfer back to the Marder infantry fighting vehicles, which have been in service with the Bundeswehr since 1971.

Comments

[bessmertniy]

So it’s about carts and tarantulas. Still, to ruin cars on relative off-road is somehow silly.

[NEXUS]

is a banal lack of spare parts and difficulty in maintenance.

The Germans did not learn at all from their mistakes of the past. The Tigers and Panthers were also complex, although technologically advanced, but at the same time, while one Tiger was being built, the USSR riveted 5 T-34s.

[orionvitt]

Quote: NEXUS

Tigers and Panthers were also complex, albeit technologically advanced, but at the same time, while one Tiger was being built, the USSR riveted 5 T-34s

Difficult, yes, they had such a problem (like most German equipment). But how complex in production and operation can be technologically advanced? It was the Soviet tanks that were technologically advanced. And while the Germans were building one "Tiger", ours produced not 5, but 12 T-34s.

[TermNachTer]

They have problems in everything. Both airplanes and ships. One of the pillars of NATO, is not in the best condition. And just now, in general - he laughed for a long time. The battalion commander, Lieutenant Colonel, 42 years old, decided to change sex. Herr was a battalion commander, and became Frau.

[Evil543]

Let us buy old BMP1s that are reliable and tested, and we have in stock

[cost]

BMP "Puma"

Infantry fighting vehicle classification
Combat weight, t 43,0
Crew, people. 3
Landing, pers. 6[1]
History
Manufacturer Rheinmetall
Years of production from 2009 to present
Years of operation military tests since 2008; in service since 2015
Number of issued, pcs. 100 as of December 2016[2]
Main operators Germany
dimensions
Body length, mm 7330
Width, mm 3710; 3900 (Configurations stufe "C")
Height, mm 3600
Clearance, mm 450
Reservation
Type of armor modular, composite AMAP, additional remote sensing
Forehead of the hull, mm/deg. from feathered sub-caliber shells klb. up to 45 mm
Hull board, mm/deg. min. from 30-mm feathered sub-caliber shells
Hull feed, mm/deg. from 14,5 mm bullets
Bottom, mm protection level IVa according to STANAG 4569: against 10-kg anti-tank mines and against detonation of mines based on a projectile-forming charge
Active protection type MUSS
Dynamic protection ERA CLARA Dynamit Nobel Defense; order 2015 for 200 sets of remote sensing, set weight 1 t[3]
weaponry
Caliber and brand of gun 30 mm MK 30-2/AVM
Type of gun rifled automatic
Ammunition 400 guns
Thermal sights with day and night channels and a laser rangefinder
Machine guns 1 × 5,56 mm HK MG4
Other weapons ATGM Spike
Mobility
engine's type
[show] HPD
Engine power, l. with. Xnumx
Engine power, kW 800
Highway speed, km / h 70
Cruising on highway, km 600
Specific power, l. s./t 34,1 (24,9)
Suspension type individual hydropneumatic
ShBMP "Puma" irina caterpillars, mm 500

[V.I.P.]

Judging by the performance characteristics, good booking performance and mine protection (take care of personnel). It’s interesting, but what components and assemblies do they break down, that only 20% of cars are in service? This is a particular unit or a little bit everywhere and everywhere))))

[Private-K]

Good performance characteristics?
Do you even understand anything about armored vehicles?
With a mass of 43 tons, the level of frontal protection is only slightly higher than the 19-ton BMP-3, which 32 years old from acceptance into service hit.
With weapons in the form of a 30-mm auto-toothpick excusable for a 13-15 ton machine, but just ridiculous for a 43 ton?
The car breaks down as if it had just appeared, and there were no decades of development and many years of refinement ...
And this is at a breathtakingly sky-high price per unit.
Awesome.

[V.I.P.]

BMP-3 holds a blast of 10 kg of anti-tank mines, and the crew at the same time survive ?? BMP-3 of the UAE army following the results of the battles in Yemen is withdrawn from service (it was called a burning coffin), they remove a tower with weapons and put them on a wheeled infantry fighting vehicle or armored personnel carrier (as it is positioned there) ... And the Israeli Namer generally armed with a machine gun. Only for the protection of personnel, no BMP of the army of the Russian Federation stood close to him .... But armored vehicles should protect personnel from modern threats. And soldiers can burn in the Urals (it’s easier and cheaper) and why the heck is a BMP 2/3 ...

[Private-K]

Saudis with Emirates lost one undermined BMP-3 and several hundred your favorite mine-protected MPDs.
You must be able to fight ...
And nobody removes combat modules from the BMP-3! Do not lie! On the contrary, the people want as much as possible to have BBMs armed with such a powerful multifunctional combat module and are ready to install it on other base chassis.
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Well, in fact, the obvious shortcomings of the German BMP Puma striking you have nothing to say.
The 19-ton BMP-3 even in the basic version has frontal projection protection from 30 mm OBPS, and Puma - from 45 mm (supposedly !!) with a weight of 43 tons. In this case, the machine has the latest type of armored ceramic elements ...
The 19-ton BMP-3 has a powerful multifunctional combat weapon module from 100-mm guns and a 30-mm autocannon; and the Germans only managed to sell Puma a 30-mm auto-fumbler (although they understood that this was an unpromising bolt and wanted a 50-mm one). At 43 tons.
In this case, BMP3 more than 30 years since the start of production, and Puma - fresh, and 5 years old.
The new BMP-3 arrives in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation already equipped with additional protection (see the recent video) the contents of which are not disclosed. But it will not be at all surprising that a 2-3-ton hitch, improving the composition of the main armor, will give the updated BMP-3 protection not inferior to the 43-ton Puma, or it will be better.

But you can revel in the Puma's mine defense and bow down further.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Rich

The number of issued, pcs. 100 as of December 2016

If the number of released 100, and the number of combat-ready 19,1%, then "one and a half digger" is obtained. Something their statistics do not fit. Or nineteen vehicles and one track from the twentieth are on alert.

[rocket757]

The German Bundeswehr is forced to use ordinary cars in the exercises instead of infantry fighting vehicles due to the malfunction of most armored vehicles.

If this is not disinfect ... okay, this is their business, they were very lucky with the former Minister of Defense !!! But the life of the army became very good, which is also a plus.

[Graz]

The reason for the malfunction of this BMP, which has already received the nickname "problem child" in the German army, is a banal shortage of spare parts and difficulty in servicing.
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Well, what else to say gloomy German genius, they themselves pile up this, then they won’t figure out what to do about it

[Dur_mod]

Technologies are expensive, the latest military equipment, like modern automobiles, is very expensive to maintain. The paradox is that on the old one it is possible to carry out and restore teachings, but on the new one only wept. The same tiger could only fight with a repair team with a tractor every day.

[Cowbra]

"To what the bloody Terran has brought the country ... Tfu, damn it, I seem to have made a mistake with a branch? That is, about palm oil and pensions - this is not here" - thought a good half of the permanent commentators of VO

[Amateur]

So the Bundeswehr needs to quickly learn from their fighting comrades from Latvia.

[Cowbra]

Rather like this:

And the shot surrenders to me, it's NATO

[Flurry]

Exactly, they all ruined and plundered. Take and shake all sorts of oligarchs Raimanov and Sheffler so that instead of villas and yachts there is money for repairs and the purchase of new equipment. And replace the Minister of Defense with a career officer instead of any gynecologists, then there will be order!

[rosomaha]

what ... have already broken? ... oh yes well done! Share your experience with all of NATO ... we need it

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Oh, how bad the Germans are !!!! But every cloud has a silver lining - the German infantry can afford to attack on "Merciers", but in Russia, according to some local comrades, we scare the whole world on old BMP-1s. Let the Germans not worry, because in the opinion of our liberal analysts, the war will be won by the one with the larger budget, and not the one who has serviceable and combat-ready equipment ...

[knn54]

"No harp, take a tambourine."

[rotmistr60]

only 19,1% of the Puma infantry fighting vehicles are on alert

Wonderful. In the hope of a collective NATO, they completely destroyed their armed forces. No wonder they are pushing the countries of Eastern Europe (the Baltic states, Poland ...) to shout loudest about the Russian threat in the hope that the "hegemon" will come and help. The Americans are strengthening their presence, but whether they will fight for the same Germans is a purely rhetorical question. We only benefit from such a state of the European armies. Hence the conclusion - more defense ministers-gynecologists to the EU countries.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Yes, this is a banal (request) warning, do not attack us, we are not ready.

[Private-K]

Not this way. This is German army sabotage. Not "do not attack us," but "we are incapable of attacking anyone, and do not drag us into a war that we do not want."
That does not at all negate the severe problems with the Puma BMP itself (although there are quite a few insane people who are delighted with it).

[Vasyan1971]

The German Bundeswehr is forced to use ordinary cars in the exercises instead of infantry fighting vehicles due to the malfunction of most armored vehicles.

Figase, gloomy German genius! That - sticks, instead of machine guns, now it's ...
Ursula is trying ....

[cniza]

Ursula is no longer in business, and her merit is minimal, what will happen next with Europe?

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: cniza

Ursula is no longer in business, and her merit is minimal

And the traces of her life? Not one day all this has grown?
It is enough to recall the ambiguous memory of Serdyukov ...

[cniza]

The USA did the main work there, Germany is an occupied country and while there they will not have an "exceptional" army.

[cniza]

According to Bild, in fact, this means that motorized infantry units that do not have enough Puma BMPs for training should use ordinary cars instead.

The US has done its work and continues to track ...

[Ros 56]

Well, to hell with them, we found a topic for discussion. Let Stoltenberg's head hurt.

[NF68]

The Germans survived. Manstein and Co in coffins rotate like gyroscopes. And von lehr Leyen, the main culprit of this triumph, went on the rise.

[Zomanus]

Well, in fact, what for them troops?
Are they planning to keep defense from someone?
They are already occupied by the United States, it will protect them ... probably.

[Nadrub]

From Iran? :)

[Ax Matt]

Well, history shows that the Germans are able to train "tank wedges" even on ordinary tractors ... you have to keep your eyes open with them!

[Viktor Sergeev]

There are no longer those Germans who have degenerated, turned into an amorphous body, which they have been told from childhood: you are to blame.

[Ax Matt]

While they are in NATO, it’s not bad either ... There is motivation to be friends with us.

[_Ugene_]

here you have high-quality German technology, maybe desa?

[Viktor Sergeev]

Soon they will be as in a joke, the pilots with arms outstretched will fly, and the tank men will growl and ride. The Germans are not stupid and understand that no one will attack them. Well, they do not want to be like the Americans.